[00:00:05] RENNINGER. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA WILL DO OUR INVITATION FOR US, IF YOU WILL ALL STAND. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN IN PRAYER, BOW YOUR HEAD. LORD WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THIS DAY YOU HAVE GIVEN US, THE BLESSINGS, THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES. WE THANK YOU FOR EACH MIND AND HEART IN THE ROOM. TODAY, WE ALSO PAUSE TO RECOGNIZE HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE AND THE BOUNCY WE WILL SHARE ON MAKES GIVING WITH FAMILY WHETHER THEY ARE CLOSE TO US OR FAR AWAY. WE ALSO RECOGNIZE SHARING WITH THE LESS FORTUNATE. EVERY DAY OFFICERS -- OFFERS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. HEAVENLY FATHER BLESS THIS MEETING TODAY. AND THE LIVES OF THOSE WE WILL ENCOUNTER AFTERWARDS. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> IF YOU FOLLOWED US FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME YOU KNOW WE ENJOY HAVING A BETTER INCOME AND DELIVER OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOR US. BEFORE I INTRODUCE OUR VETERAN FOR TODAY, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD KEEP HIS COLLEAGUE JOHN BRIMLOW AND YOUR PRAYERS. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO IT TODAY BUT HE CAME DOWN WITH THE FLU AND HE IS VERY ILL. WE HAVE U.S. ARMY RANGER HERE WHO AGREED TO STEP IN AT THE LAST MINUTE. WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. HE WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. HE SERVED TEN YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY AND WAS A U.S. ARMY RANGER SNIPER. HE DID TWO TOURS IN IRAQ AND ONE IN AFGHANISTAN. HE IS A RESIDENT OF MIDDLEBURG AND VOLUNTEERS AS THE LEAD OFFICER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR BEING WITH US TODAY. >> IF YOU COULD REPEAT AFTER ME. I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? >> IS IT WORKING? >> YES, EVERYBODY BACK HERE, YES, CHECK US OUT ONLINE, WE RUN A SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM. WE HOW VETERANS. WE HAVE TEN ROOMS UP THERE. THE MENTOR MAKES THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE. SO WE CAN GET THEM TO ANY RESOURCE THEY NEED AND REALLY WE REALLY WE ARE BUILDING COMMUNITY AS WELL SO ONCE WE GET DONE WITH THE RESOURCE THEY HAVE SOMEONE TO FALL BACK ON. WE ALSO DO MEETINGS ON TUESDAY NIGHT. SO AT 6:30 P.M., EVEN THIS EVENING ON KINGSLEY, THE FIRST BAPTIST ORANGE PARK JUST HAVING PEOPLE IN THE PROGRAM OR PEOPLE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE STRUGGLING OR PEOPLE STRUGGLING CAN COME TO SHARE AND CONNECT AND ALSO WE HAVE A PLACE BY CLAY HI, WHERE WE EMBRACE THE BRAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH, PLEASE CHECK US OUT. PLEASE GET A HOLD OF ME. >> THANK YOU I WOULD NOW CALL TO [CALL TO ORDER] ORDER THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING NOVEMBER 22, 2022 LET THE RECORD SHOW ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE IN PLACE. BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND, AGAINST ALL RUMORS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD YESTERDAY, COMMISSIONER CELLA IS NOT FINISHING HIS TERM. THERE WAS A SLIP OF THE TONGUE YESTERDAY AND LAST NIGHT MY PHONE WAS BLOWING UP BUT HE IS HERE. COMMISSIONER CELLA IS HERE AND [PET ADOPTIONS] ACCOUNTED FOR. >> MOVING ONTO PET ADOPTIONS. [00:05:08] >> OUR FIRST DOG TODAY, A MIXED BREED 8-YEARS-OLD AND WEIGHS 40 POUNDS. I JUST WANT TO CURL UP NEXT TO YOU AND STARE INTO YOUR SOUL. I AM HOUSETRAINED, A DISTINGUISHED GENTLEMAN AND I RARELY PULL ON THE LEASE. I EVEN MAKE EYE CONTACT WITH YOU I AM UP TO DATE ON VACCINES AND I AM MACRO CHIPPED. THE NEXT DOG IS LARRY A NEUTERED MALE AND WEIGHS 49 POUNDS. DID YOU KNOW NOVEMBER IS ADOPT A SENIOR MONTH AND HERE I AM, A STAFF FAVORITE AND LOVER OF ALL HUMANS. MY FAVORITE THING TO DO IS ROLL IN THE SUNSHINE AND CHECK IN WITH MY FAVORITE HUMANS AND ENJOY ANY TREATS YOU HAVE FOR ME. I AM DOG FRIENDLY AND ALTHOUGH I AM HEARTWORM POSITIVE MY TREATMENT IS SPONSORED. THIS IS OUR FIRST CAT. A SPAYED FEMALE, NINE MONTHS OLD, SHE IS A SWEET SOCIAL GIRL LOOKING FOR A HOME TO CALL HER OWN. SHE IS A KITTEN AND WILL DO FINE AFTER AN ADJUSTMENT PERIOD. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCIP. LASTLY WE HAVE A SPAYED FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR TWO MONTHS OLD. A SWEET KID THAT WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN A FOREVER FAMILY FOR THE HOLIDAYS. THE ONLY THING SHE WOULD LIKE MORE IS TO BE WITH HER BROTHER AND THEIR FAVORITE HOME. THEY ARE BOTH UP TO DATE ON THEIR VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. IF YOU WANT TO JOIN OUR KING CREW WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS. UK CONTACT US AT CLAY COUNTY.COM THAT COMPLETES THE PET [SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION] ADOPTIONS. >> WOULD MY COLLEAGUES PLEASE JOIN ME DOWN FRONT FOR A SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION. WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE RECENT GRADUATES HIGH PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE LEADERSHIP PROGRAMS. THIS IS A 12 WEEK ONLINE PROGRAM WITH INDUSTRY EXECUTIVES AND LEADERS. THE CURRICULUM PROVIDES BEST PRACTICES AND DEVELOPMENT AND CHANGE MANAGEMENT AND EFFECTIVE BUSINESS COMMUNICATION AND HOW TO DELIVER HIGH PERFORMANCE. THIS PROGRAM IS BUILT AROUND INTERACTION AND COMMUNITY, MODERATED BY EXPERTS WHILE ALLOWING THE CONVENIENCE OF SELF-PACED LEARNING. GRADUATES WE WILL CALL UP AND IF THE COMMISSIONERS WANT TO HELP THEY WILL EACH HAVE A CERTIFICATE AND A BOOK AND THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS RECOGNITION FOR THEM AS WELL.% WE HAVE ONE FROM PLANNING. . NEXT WE HAVE EDWARD TUCKER FROM MANAGEMENT. WE KNOW HER AS BETH BUT ELIZABETH PARSONS FROM PLANNING. LAURA FROM COMMUNICATIONS. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST SAMANTHA FROM THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE. [1.  Farm City Week] [00:10:58] NEXT WE HAVE OUR PROCLAMATION NOVEMBER 16-23RD IS ANNUAL FARM WEEK CELEBRATED EVERY WEEK TO RECOGNIZE THE ESSENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN RURAL AND URBAN COMMUNITIES THAT ENSURE SAFE AND ABUNDANT FOOD SUPPLY ACCEPTING THE PROCLAMATION TONIGHT WE HAVE FORMER COMMISSIONER HERE WHO IS THE CLAY COUNTY FARM BUREAU PRESIDENT. AND THE DIRECTOR. >> THEY ALL GAVE ME THIS PROCLAMATION BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW MUCH OF A GREEN THUMB I HAVE. WHEREAS FARMERS AND RANCHERS BEAT THE WORLD AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THE COUNTRY AND STRENGTH OF THE ECONOMY BY PRODUCING GOOD FOOD THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH ESSENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS THROUGH RURAL COMMUNITIES TO SUPPLY, SELL AND DELIVER FINISHED PRODUCTS AROUND FLORIDA AND THE GLOW. DURING NATIONAL FARM CITY WEEK WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS NETWORK THAT AS BUILD OUR RESOURCES AND AGRICULTURE AND RELATED ENTERPRISES EMPLOYED MORE THAN 2 MILLION WORKERS SHOULD AND OTHERS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ANNUAL IMPACT OF THE $146 BILLION TO THE FLORIDA ECONOMY. WHEREAS THEY PERFORM THEIR DAILY WORK PAPERS PRESERVE FRESH WATER RECHARGE AREAS, WILDLIFE HABITAT AND GREEN SPACE. THEY HELP FAMILIES RETAIN THEIR CONSERVATION PRACTICES BY PURCHASING FLORIDA'S AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS. WHEREAS FARM CITY WEEK ACTIVITIES CELEBRATE THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT SUPPORT THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE ENJOY, THIS WEEK AS WE GATHER WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AROUND THE THANKSGIVING TABLE WE COUNT THESE RELATIONSHIPS AMONGST OUR BLESSINGS. AND WHILE WE COMMEND THE FLORIDIANS TO HARD WORK REFLECT THE TRUE SPIRIT OF OUR STATE AND NATION. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY FLOATED TO PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 16-23RD, 2022 IS FARM CITY WEEK IN CLAY COUNTY. AND CALLS UPON ALL SINS IS TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND CELEBRATE THE ACHIEVEMENT OF THOSE WORKING TOGETHER TO PRODUCE AND SUPPLY OUR COMMUNITY WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS 22ND DAY OF NOVEMBER, 2022. CAN I HAVE A MOTION? AND A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. IT PASSES. SIGNED BY ALL FIVE COMMISSIONERS. WHO GETS THE PROCLAMATION HERE? >> I JUST WANTED TO SHARE HOW IMPORTANT THE FARMERS AND RANCHERS ARE. THE NEXT 12 MONTHS EACH OF YOU WILL NEED A DOCTOR OR POLICEMAN OR DEPENDING ON YOUR LAST STOP BUT YOU NEED A FARMER OR RANCHER THREE TIMES PER DAY. MIKE, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU MAY NEED THEM FOUR TIMES PER DAY. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. >> I WILL SAY THANK YOU TO NEW YORK CONTINUED SUPPORT EACH YEAR WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE CHANGES. >> MOVING INTO THE BUSINESS [EDC Quarterly Update - Crawford Powell] [00:15:46] PORTION OF THE MEETING WE ARE DUE FOR THE EDC QUARTERLY UPDATE THAT IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FROM CRAWFORD POWELL. >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU AGAIN I'M GLAD I CAN DO THE POWERPOINT. WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF THE THINGS GOING ON. WE ADDED THIS SLIDE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AND TO MAKE YOU AWARE WE ARE STILL AT A 2.3 UNEMPLOYMENT RATE AND CLAY COUNTY. A LITTLE LESS THAN JACKSONVILLE AND THE STATE AND SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THEN THE U.S. AS A WHOLE. WE ARE STILL STRUGGLING WITH FILLING A LOT OF VACANT JOBS. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE WORKFORCE BOARD AND OTHER GROUPS TO TRY TO GET FULL EMPLOYMENT BACK AND A LOT OF THE COMPANIES SAY CAN YOU CONNECT US WITH THE RIGHT GROUP. SO, JUST BE AWARE WE ARE STILL WORKING IN THAT AREA. PROJECT ACTIVITY, WE HAVE TWO PROJECTS, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THEM FOR A WHILE WE WILL PRESENT THEM A LITTLE LATER THIS EVENING. WE HAVE A NEW PROJECT WHICH WE HAVE TITLED HAIL MARY. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REASONS WE NAMED IT THAT BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY APPROPRIATE. IT IS AN EXISTING INDUSTRY LOOKING TO RELOCATE AND EXPAND, SO WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR NEEDS. ALSO I MADE A NOTE DOWN HERE, I REFERRED TO THESE I SUSPECT WHAT WE HAVE HAD ONGOING MEETINGS TRYING TO RELOCATE WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN CLAY COUNTY. I ALSO WANTED TO ADD WE ARE WORKING WITH LANDOWNERS IN THE COUNTY. THE ACHILLES' HEEL IS WE DO NOT HAVE SHOVEL READY SPOTS AND SITES READY TO GO. WHEN A COMPANY COMES IN THEY WANT INFRASTRUCTURE AND FIBER. THERE ARE VERY FEW SITES THAT MEET THOSE CRITERIA, AND HAVE MASTER-PLANNED SO WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THAT. THAT IS IN REGARDS TO THE NUMBER OF CALLS WE GET LOOKING FOR SITE READY AND OR BUILDINGS AVAILABLE FOR LEASE OR RENT. AGAIN THAT IS OUR ACHILLES' HEEL. WE DID HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT MERYL PROPERTIES ANNOUNCED A NEW WAREHOUSE BUILDING IT WILL BE OFF OF 23. IT WILL BE 10058000 TOTAL SQUARE FEET, THAT IS OVER FOR BUILDINGS THAT SHOULD BE BUILT OVER THE THE AVERAGE TENANTS, THEY PREFER MULTIPLE TENANTS AND THEIR AVERAGE SIDE IS BETWEEN 2,710,000 SQUARE FEET. THERE IS A HUGE NICHE IN THE MARKET FOR THESE FACILITIES IN BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR. [00:20:19] WE ARE ALSO IN DISCUSSION WITH ENGINEERING GROUPS HELPING US WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE SITE INFORMATION WE HAVE. WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE OUR PARTNERS ON WATER AND SEWER EXPANSION TO ACCOMMODATE PROJECTS. IN THIS SLIDE, DOWN TOWARDS THE BOTTOM YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE A 2.2% VACANCY RATE. THIS IS CONSIDERED A HEALTHY MARKET. THIS IS AN -- ALSO NOTE THAT, BECAUSE OF THE MINIMAL VACANCY RATE, THIS IS A HIGHER THAN IT IS IN JACKSONVILLE AT THIS TIME. HOUSING DATA, EACH QUARTER SHOWS AN INCREASE. THAT GIVES YOU A QUICK UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING. LATER THIS EVENING IN THE MEETING WE WILL PRESENT TWO PROJECTS. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS THIS EVENING? >> UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. OUR BUSINESS IS HAVING TROUBLE FINDING NEW WORKERS, 2.3% MEANS, LEAVE MY JOB TODAY AND I FOR. >> 90% OF THE BUSINESSES WE INTERACT WITH SAY THEY COULD USE X AMOUNT OF MORE EMPLOYEES. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A HIGHER SKILL SET. NOT NECESSARILY GRADUATE DEGREES BUT ENGINEERING DEGREES, SKILLED BLUE-COLLAR, PLUMBING WE HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK. YOU PROBABL REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN 4% WAS CONSIDERED FULL EMPLOYMENT. WE ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THAT. IT DID REMIND ME OF A POINT. KEEP IN MIND, 70% OF THE EMPLOYEE RATE IN CLAY COUNTY COMMUTES. SO WHEN WE MEET WITH PLACES THAT HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THEY THINK YOU'RE EMPLOYMENT RATE BUT IF YOU ARE HIRING WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS, IF YOU CAN CAPTURE THOSE WHO ARE GOING OUT TO WORK, AND YOU CAN SAVE THEM 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR COMMUTE EACH DAY THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A WORKFORCE HERE. WE HAVE A ROBUST, ABOUT 10015000 WORKFORCE GIVE WERE TAKEN CLAY COUNTY BUT 75% GO ELSEWHERE TO WORK. OUR ARGUMENT IS LET'S CAPTURE THOSE, AND PUT THEM TO WORK HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. IT REMINDED ME, ONE OF THE GROUPS WE TALK TO, MOST OF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THE NIAGARA FACILITY. THEY TOLD US, SIX WEEKS AGO THEY EXPECT TO BE AT 200 EMPLOYEES BY YEAR IN. THEY ARE CAPTURING THOSE WHO ARE TRANSFERRING OUT. AND FROM OUR CONVERSATION, PEOPLE WHO WERE PART-TIME OR IN LOWER AND RETAIL OR MORE HOURLY, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE [00:25:02] THAT. THERE PAY SKILLS, INSURANCE, THEIR BENEFITS PACKAGE, THEIR HOLIDAY SCHEDULE WHICH IS TYPICALLY NOT A SOLUTION FOR OTHER HOURLY EMPLOYEES AT OTHER COMPANIES. I THINK THEY SAID THE AVERAGE WAGE IS $57,000. SO THE AVERAGE WAGE IS UP THERE, AND THERE ADDITIONAL PACKAGE THAT GOES WITH THAT IS A GAME CHANGER FOR A LOT OF CITIZENS. >> THEY ARE A GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? >> MOST OF US KNOWS -- KNOW THE ANSWER. >> TYPICALLY, CODENAMES ARE REFERENCE FOR PROJECTS THAT YOU'RE WORKING IN THE INDUSTRY. IF A COMPANY IS RELOCATING OR EXPANDING THE CONCERN IS IT CAN BE A COMPETITIVE SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE RELOCATING OR EXPANDING SO THEY DON'T WANT THE COMPETITORS KNOWING WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THERE'S A LOT OF CONFIDENTIALITY THAT GOES WITH THAT. AND WE WILL RELOCATE OUR OPERATIONS. THEY WANT TO RELEASE THAT INFORMATION TO THEIR EMPLOYEES AT THEIR TIME SCHEDULE, NOT BECAUSE IT IS BEING WRITTEN ABOUT IN A LOCAL NEWSPAPER. AND THERE EMPLOYEES HEAR IT OR SEE IT. THAT IS TYPICALLY, A LOCAL SECRET BEING. IT IS MORE TO RESPECT THE WISHES AND ONE OTHER QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE NATIONAL ECONOMY, DO YOU SEE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE PEOPLE YOU ARE TALKING TO ABOUT COMING TO CLAY COUNTY. >> COMPANIES THAT NEED TO EXPAND OR RELOCATE, IF YOU HAVE YOUR FIFTH KID AND YOU ARE IN A TWO-BEDROOM HOUSE HAVE TO GET A BIGGER HOUSE. IF THE COMPANY IS DOING THAT BECAUSE IT IS A BUSINESS FUNCTION DECISION, THEY ARE STILL LOOKING, NONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE NOTICED THAT STRACK LATELY COMING OUT OF THE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT, COMPANIES ARE UNDERESTIMATING AND I WILL USE NIAGARA AS AN EXAMPLE. THEIR INITIAL RESPONSE WAS, 75-80 PEOPLE. AS SOON AS THIS WAS BUILT, THEY SAID THEY WENT FROM FIVE AND A QUARTER TO 1600 SQUARE FEET. AND THEY HIRED ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES. BUT MOST COMPANIES DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO THAT ON THE FRONT END. MOST OF US WILL WE BUY A HOUSE MOST WERE A LOT OF THEM ARE SAYING WE WILL DO A PHASE ONE AND WE WILL COMMIT TO AND PRETTE THREE BUT WE WILL ONLY COMMIT TO PHASE WON OF FROM. WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE OF THAT INSTEAD OF JUST COMING RIGHT OUT. I WILL TELL YOU, SPECULATIVE DEVELOPERS WITH EMPTY BUILDINGS AND LARGE WAREHOUSES THEY HAVE SLOWED BECAUSE OF THE INTEREST RATE. AT THREE AND A HALF AND 4% IS A [00:30:01] LOT DIFFERENT THAN A PERCENT. THEY WERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE MARKET WOULD LOOK LIKE. >> THANK YOU. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO. ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING [PUBLIC COMMENTS] AYE. AND NONE OPPOSE. NEXT WE WILL MOVE INTO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU, THIS IS OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT OF THE MEETING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TURN IN A CARD AND COME UP AND SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT AND WE WELCOME YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM WILLIAM. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM? I WILL MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. THAT IS A TIME CERTAIN SO IT WILL NOT BE TOO LATE AFTER 5:00 P.M. ITEM NUMBER 20. THE NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT IS, STACY. I'M SORRY IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME. >> HELLO I LIVE AT 3411 ROUND ROAD IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT IS IT IS BEHIND THE AUTOMALL. I HAVE LIVED ON BROWN ROAD FOR 35 YEARS AND ONLY IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS OF THOSE 35 THAT FLOODING DURING RAIN, HAS BECOME AN ISSUE. I HAVE WITNESSED AND HAVE VIDEO OF WATER FLOWING OUT, LIKE A WATERFALL UNDER THE WOOD ALONG SHEDD ROAD THAT TRAVELS DOWN THE ROAD MAKING IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DRIVE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE WATER FLOWING. AND REEKING HAVE IT FOR HOMEOWNERS. I UNDERSTAND THE ROADS ARE COUNTY OWNED BUT I AM THANKFUL THAT THE COUNTY DOES MAINTAIN THE ROADS. AT THE SAME TIME IT HAS BEEN FRUSTRATING AS A TAXPAYER TO WITNESS COUNTY WORKERS COME OUT AND USE UG EQUIPMENT TO DIG OUT THESE DITCHES AND I AM NOT EXAGGERATING WHEN I SAY DON'T TRUCKLOADS OF DIRT HAVING TO BE DUG OUT. NOT AFTER HURRICANES, AFTER RAINSTORMS. IT IS FRUSTRATING AS A TAXPAYER THAT WE ARE NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM. I KNOW THERE IS A STUDY BEING DONE. WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IT WAS A BEAVER. THIS IS AN OVER DEVELOPMENT PROBLEM. I BEG EACH OF YOU TO DRIVE DOWN THE LENGTH AND LOOK AT THESE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD WHICH IS FULL OF DIRT, WE KNOW THERE'S A STUDY BUT THIS IS AN OVERDEVELOPMENT PROBLEM. THERE WAS NEVER THIS KIND OF FLOODING BEFORE. I KNOW THERE IS NO WAY TO TURN BACK TIME AND I KNOW THIS WAS PREPARED AHEAD OF TIME BUT I BEG YOU TO CONSIDER RESIDENTS WHO HAVE LIVED OUR ENTIRE LIVES HERE AND UNDERSTAND HOW THIS IS AFFECTING OUR WAY OF LIVING. CHANGE HAS COME AT A SERIOUS PRICE AND THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING THIS BILL AND HAVE TO SACRIFICE WHAT MADE THIS A SPECIAL PLACE TO LIVE. ONCE THE STUDY IS DONE I HOPE YOU CAN FIND SOLUTIONS THAT ARE BENEFICIAL FOR ALL OF US AND NOT A TEMPORARY BAND-AID FOR JUST A FEW. I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK TERESA HAS DONE. SHE HAS MET WITH HOMEOWNERS AND TAKEN ACTION. THAT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE. I ALSO WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER BURKE FOR ALWAYS TRYING TO HELP WITH THIS ISSUE. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE MR. OTTO. >> LONG TIME. [00:35:08] WELCOME TO CLAY COUNTY. BOARD. JAMES OTTO CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA HOTELS. I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE FOR 18 YEARS AND TALKING ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK MRS. CONDON. THE MESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE. THE IMPACT FEE IS ON THE AGENDA TODAY. I WANT TO TALK ON TEN, 12 AND 16. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME AND I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE JAIL SITUATION BECAUSE I WAS FALSELY ARRESTED AND THAT IS WHY I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE. SEVEN OF THE EIGHT CHARGES HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT AND I AM WORKING ON THE LAST ONE. BUT THAT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE. PRIVATIZING THE JAILS IS JUST NOT RIGHT. AND THAT IS PROBABLY WHERE YOU ARE HEADED. I HEAR ILLINOIS AS A PROBLEM WITH THEIR BUDGET. SO YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT HOW THEY ARE DOING THINGS. I REALLY DISAPPOINTED ON WHAT'S GOING AROUND. I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE MEETINGS AND I'M DISAPPOINTED. I APPRECIATE THE A MORATORIUM ON THE AGENDA BUT THAT IS JUST PART OF THE COUNTY. THIS COUNTY AS BEING ABUSED BY NOT HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE PAID. I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS NUMEROUS TIMES. WE NEED THE HIGHEST IMPACT FEE. YOU CAN TALK ABOUT SOMETHING FOR THE PEOPLE, WE DON'T WANT THAT GROWTH. WE HAVE THIS TRUCK, I DON'T THINK I HEARD ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MEETING. IT'S DISGUSTING WHAT'S GOING ON. I DRIVE IT ALL OF THE TIME. THE IMPACT FEE WAS NOT PAID THERE. WE HAVE PEOPLE DYING ON HIGHWAY 21. IT'S NOT TEXTING IT IS BECAUSE IT IS A TWO LANE ROAD AND NOTHING ON THE OTHER SIDE. THIS COUNTY HAS BEEN IGNORING THE PROBLEMS. THIS FAIRGROUND IS A JOKE. ALL OF THE MONEY AND YOU CAN'T HELP THE POOR PEOPLE? COME ON, LET'S WAKE UP. >> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC [CONSENT AGENDA] COMMENT. I SEE NONE. WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSENT AGENDA. ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PULLED? >> I DO HAVE ONE CORRECTION WERE NOT ASKING FOR THE ITEM TO BE PULLED BUT IN CONNECTION WITH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ACCEPTANCE OF A PLAT ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. IT HAS A REFERENCE TO THE ADOPTION AND DEDICATION AND THERE WILL NOT BE A CDD. THIS WILL BE APPROVED AND SIGNED BY THE BOARD. >> ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ANYTHING ELSE? >> I WANT TO PULL ITEM NUMBER FIVE FOR DISCUSSION THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE FOR 2,023. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA DO SO WITHOUT ITEM NUMBER FIVE. >> [5.  2023 Holiday Schedule] ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THE ONE I WANTED TO DISCUSS WITH THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE, THE FOUR OF YOU WHO WERE ON THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUNE OR MAY WHEN WE APPROVE THE JUNETEENTH HOLIDAY, I MENTIONED DURING DISCUSSION I HEARD FROM A FEW EMPLOYEES ASKING ABOUT, GOOD FRIDAY BEING ADDED TO THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE AND WE SAID THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO APPROVE IT WAS WHEN WE APPROVE THE YEARLY SCHEDULE. THE TIME IS COME AROUND NOW. THE -- I KNOW JENNIFER HAS INFORMATION ON WHAT OTHER [00:40:04] COUNTIES DO AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. >> THIS IS THE CURRENT HOLIDAY SCHEDULE WE HAVE 12 APPROVED HOLIDAYS THE ITEM INCLUDED IS THE SAME UNLESS YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT. IN SERVING OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES, THESE ARE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS, IT SHOWS NASSAU COUNTY ADDING 13 AND THEN, ST. JOHN'S AND DEVAULT HAVING THE SAME AS US. AND 35 ENTITIES THAT I RECENTLY SURVEYED AN AVERAGE OF SIX HOLIDAYS RANGING FROM 9-14, SO IT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY. >> WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP PREVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE THE CLERK'S OFFICE HAS GOOD FRIDAY. HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? >> WE'VE MIRRORED THE 12, WE HAVE GOOD FRIDAY BECAUSE IT IS A COURT RECOGNIZED HOLIDAY. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL DAY. >> SOLD 13. >> I WAS TOLD THE COUNTY AS A FLOATING HOLIDAY, ANY EMPLOYEE EMPLOYED FOR OVER ONE YEAR RECEIVES ONE ADDITIONAL DAY AS A PERSONAL DAY AND THAT IS ADDED INTO THEIR VACATION BANK. ANY DISCUSSION? JUST TO ADD TO THAT THE CLERK'S OFICE HAS A SIMILAR PROGRAM. IT IS SOMETHING I INHERITED AND I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT WHEN WE GET PAID ANNUALLY. >> DO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING? >> THEY TEND TO FOLLOW A SCHEDULE. AND. MY QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT THAT DOES TO THE FIRE AND SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN TERMS OF THEIR OVERALL APPROACH TO DAYS OFF. MAYBE YOU CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS? >> THEY DO HAVE 11 PAID HOLIDAYS. THEY DID NOT RECEIVE THE ADDITIONAL HOLIDAY GRANTED AFTER THE CONTRACT WAS RATIFIED. >> THEN WE HAVE WIKI WHO WILL SPEAK ON THE SHARES WE HAVE. >> WE OFFER A BIRTHDAY WHICH IS FLOATING AND THEY CAN USE IT AT ANY TIME THEY LIKE. >> MY QUESTION WOULD BE, PUBLIC SAFETY, IT IS A UNION NEGOTIATED CONTRACT. IF THEY LEAN THAT WAY WE WILL TOO. THAT TIME WOULD BE COVERED BY OVERTIME I WOULD ASSUME. WE WORK 24/7 AND YOU GET AN EXTRA DAY OFF UNLESS WE HIRE NEW PEOPLE. AND WE SHOULD DO IT COUNTYWIDE. PUBLIC SAFETY MEMBERS IF THEY ARE SCHEDULED TO WORK THEY CAN RECEIVE IT AT A LATER DATE. BUT THE CHIEF CAN SPEAK TO THE IMPACT OF ANY ADDITIONAL TIME. >> JENNIFER. >> I'M CONFUSED, YOU SAID JUNETEENTH WAS NOT ADDED AFTER THEIR CONTRACT SO THEY WILL HAVE IT FROM NOW ON CLICKS. >> THAT WAS FOR A FUTURE SESSION. >> IT WAS SPECIFICALLY NEGOTIATED. >> JENNIFER, REALLY ARTICULATED, [00:45:05] THE HOLIDAYS AS GRANTED WE OBSERVED THEM ON THE DAY OF THE HOLIDAY WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE 40 HOURS SCHEDULE. SO, FOR A FIRE AND RESCUE PERSON, DECEMBER 25 IS THE HOLIDAY NOT THE MONDAY OR TUESDAY AFTER AS THE DAYS WILL APPLY. THE HOLIDAYS ARE GRANTED TO THE INDIVIDUALS AFTER THEY WORK THEM AND THEY CAN USE THEM AS A DAY OFF OR THEY CAN PACK THEM AND THERE'S COMPENSATION. SO WHEN THEY ARE GRANTED THERE IS A COST FACTOR EITHER A DAY OFF WHERE IT BECOMES OVER TIME OR WOULD COMPENSATE THEM AT THE VALUE THEY WANT TO HAVE IT PAID. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE GOOD FRIDAY AS A HOLIDAY BUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES. AT ANY RATE. FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM. >> I WILL SAY, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS. , CHRISTIAN I CELEBRATE EASTER, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO BE THERE FOR THE PEOPLE. THIS SEAT. >> THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH A LOT OF JOKES. >> AND I MAY SAY, 20 YEARS AGO WE MOVED HERE BOAT WE CELEBRATED COLUMBUS DAY. WHERE DOES THIS STOP. IF WE WERE BELOW MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES AROUND US, THAT WOULD BE A COMPETITIVE SITUATION AND I THINK WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THEY COULD DESIGNATE THAT AS A DATE THEY COULD TAKEOFF. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD DO IF WE DID THAT, WHERE DOES THAT PUT US. AT THIS POINT I WOULD SAY, AND SOMEONE WHO CELEBRATES GOOD FRIDAY, I WOULD SAY WE HAVE 12 OR 13, BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT HAVE A HOLIDAY THEY WILL NOT. WHERE DO WE STOP THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THE HOLIDAY SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED. >> I KNOW WE HAVE OF MOTION AND I DID NOT ASK THIS BEFORE. IS THERE A REASON WE HAVE THE RULE ABOUT THE FLOATING HOLIDAY THAT SOMEONE AS TO BE HERE FOR ONE YEAR. I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHERE THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT HOLIDAY. IF THEY REQUESTED IT OFF WITH PAY. >> I GUESS, THAT IS A REWARD FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR. ANY NEW EMPLOYEE WOULD ACCRUE NEW LEAVE. THEY ACCRUE UP TO EIGHT HOURS EVERY MONTH. THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THAT AVAILABLE. UNDER THE CURRENT POLICY, THAT WAS LAST YEAR, HAVING THAT REWARD. >> WE DID NOT DISCUSS THE RAMIFICATIONS. >> MY QUESTION IS, I REALLY DO WANT TO KNOW THE RAMIFICATIONS MOVING FORWARD ADDING GOOD FRIDAY. TALKING ABOUT FIGURES AND WHO WILL BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE COST. I THINK I NEED TO KNOW, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. IM MUCH LIKE CLERK GREENE'S SITUATION. I WORK IN THE LEGAL FIELD SO I DON'T WORK GOOD FRIDAY'S, THE [00:50:05] COURTHOUSE IS CLOSED HERE AND DEVAULT COUNTY. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, SO I KNOW WHY WE WOULD NOT MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS WHERE THIS BOARD IS GOING. >> WE CAN ATTEMPT ,-COMCOME UP WITH THE COSTS THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED. NOT HAVING PEOPLE ON ANY GIVEN DAY WOULD HAVE LESS ELECTRICITY, GAS, VEHICLE MAINTENANCE. AND THERE'S NO WAY TO COST MORALE OR WHAT THAT COULD BE. WE COULD ATTEMPT TO HAVE A COST, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT COULD BE. I WORKED WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO SEE WHAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO. >> DO YOU REMEMBER THE FIGURES? WHEN WE ADDED JUNETEENTH, I THINK YOU GAVE US FIGURES BUT MY MEMORY DOES NOT SERVE ME THAT WELL. >> I DON'T BELIEVE I HAD ANY SPECIFIC CAUSE. I KNOW IN OUR DISCUSSIONS PRIOR IN OUR ONE-ON-ONE SESSIONS WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC COSTS. >> WE DO HAVE OF MOTION,. >> I WOULD SECOND IT. YOU HAVE ACCESS TO HOURS IF YOU WANT TO TICK THE DAY OFF. AND I WILL SECOND THAT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC? ALL RIGHT ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SIGNIFY BY SAYING WITH THE SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES 3-TO. NEXT WE HAVE OUR STORMWATER [10.  Storm Water Master Plan Update (Jones Edmunds & Associates)] MASTER PLAN UPDATE. OUR FRIENDS FROM JONES EDMUNDS ARE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. >> GOOD EVENING. >> IF YOU WOULD JUST MOVE THE MICROPHONE UP A LITTLE BIT. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM AN ENGINEER. WE ARE WORKING ON THE MASTER PLAN AND MODELING PROJECT COUNTYWIDE. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. THERE WE GO. JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW. WE HAVE DATA COLLECTION AND EVALUATION. THESE ARE THE TWO WE ARE FOCUSING ON AT THE MOMENT. THIS IS A PORTION OF THE PROJECT THAT IS FUNDED FOR FLOODING CONDITIONS. WE WILL BE COMPLETING A STORMWATER EVALUATION AND PROVIDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PROJECTS AND FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW YOU CAN FUND THE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. WE WILL HAVE MEETINGS THROUGHOUT AND DEVELOPING A MASTER PLAN. SO, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST TESTS WE DID, TO DEVELOP THIS BASED ON THE RECENT ELEVATION MODEL FOR THE COUNTY. WE PROVIDED THIS AND WE GIVE ELEVATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTY. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE ONE LIKE THIS. AND IT IS PRETTY ACCURATE. FOR THE NON- VEGETAED AREAS. WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THE DATA SETS SO THE COUNTY AS ONE WITH ONLY 25,000 FEATURES. 23,000 STRUCTURES IN THE COUNTY DATA SET. 400 MILES OF PLATS REPRESENTED. A GREAT DATA SET HELPING US SPEED UP THE PROJECT. [00:55:02] WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME THAT ARE PRIVATE THAT WE ARE USING TO HELP WITH THE COUNTYWIDE MODELING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON. IT'S IMPORTANT WE DEVELOP THIS MODEL, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT, IT'S IMPORTANT WE UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH MAPPING AND USING SOME ADVANCED ALGORITHMS TO COMBINE THE LATEST IMAGERY AND THE NEW DATA. WE HAVE ALSO BEEN COLLECTING A LOT OF INFORMATION WHICH GIVES US AN IDEA OF OUT THIS. WE HAVE LOOKED AT SOME EXISTING FLOOD MAPPING. WE HAVE NOTICED IT IS FOCUSED ON A REGIONAL SCALE. A FEW LIMITED STUDIES, WERE NOT CHARACTERIZING ALL OF THEM. THIS IS FOCUSED ON ST. JOHNS RIVER AND SOME OF THE LAKES. TO SUPPORT A LOT OF THE ANALYSIS WE ARE DOING AND EXPANDING IN AND GIVING MORE DETAIL ACROSS THE COUNTY. TO SUPPORT THAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS DEVELOPED THIS MODEL WHICH COVERS THE EAST PORTION OF THE COUNTY THAT EVERYTHING THAT DRAINS THE RIVER AND DOWN TO THE EAST. WE DEVELOPED A MODEL ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE COUNTY AND A SMALLER MODEL AT THE WEST. WE HAVE BROKEN IT UP TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD. WE HAVE DEVELOPED, WE STARTED THIS MODELING EFFORT. WE HAVE A HIGH RESOLUTION MODEL RUNNING AT A 40-FOOT RESOLUTION. THAT IS UTILIZING THIS SO EVERY TWO NEPHI WE HAVE THE ELEVATION BASED ON THE ACCURATE REPRESENTATION. THE MOST ACCURATE WE HAVE HAD. AND WE WERE DISTRACT THAT MODEL WAS ALSO ABLE TO MAP THE FLOODING. THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE HAVE. WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO FEMA, THIS HAS A HIGH RESOLUTION GIVING US AN IDEA OF WHERE FLOOD RISK COULD BE A PROBLEM. WE ARE THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THAT. JUST A QUICK CAPTURE. ONE OF THE AREAS SHOWN IN BLUE IS THE RESULT OF THE MODELING WE COMPLETED IN THE LAST MONTH. RED IS BASED ON WHAT WE DID A STUDY FOR. VERY HIGH RESOLUTION FLOOD RISK. THE RED IS SHOWING THE RESULT AND WHAT WE ARE GETTING OUT OF IT. THESE ARE THE NEXT STEPS. WE ARE TRYING TO IDENTIFY ONE OF THE FOCUS AREAS. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SURVEYS IN THAT AREA. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CAPTURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. WE WILL ALSO BE DEVELOPING IN THE FOCUS MODEL ON THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS THAT CAN BE USED TO EVALUATE DIFFERENT CONCEPTS. WE'RE JUST WRAPPING UP, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE QUALITY DATA TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT QUALITY ISSUES. IT'S A GREAT TIME TO LOOK AT THE WATER QUALITY IN THE COUNTY. AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR THE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT GOING FORWARD. BLOOD-BORNE ABILITY, I MENTIONED THIS EARLIER LOOKING AT THE [01:00:07] EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND IMPACTS IN THE FUTURE AND HOW THAT MAY CHANGE MOVING FORWARD. AND FINALLY RECOMMENDATIONS AND WRAPPING THAT UP. JUST A QUICK SUMMARY, WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING THE FOCUS AREAS. THESE ARE SOME OF THE AREAS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SO FAR. WE WILL IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS AND FOCUS ON SOME OF THE AREAS AND SOME OF THE INITIAL SLIDES AN EXAMPLE. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF THE DETAIL MODELING AND WE WILL DO SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE FOCUS AREAS IN THE COUNTY. THIS WILL ALLOW US TO DEVELOP DIFFERENT CONCEPTS. AND THE FLOOD VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT. THIS PROJECTS OUT THE RAINFALL WILL CHANGE AND USING THAT TO ASSESS WHERE WE COULD BE FOR FLOOD RISK IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS? >> DID CEDAR ROAD -- >> WE JUST STARTED PUTTING THE LIST TOGETHER. >> ORANGE PARK, I RECALL JONES EDMUNDS GROUPING THEM INTO EIGHT DIFFERENT AREAS FOR PROJECTS. HOW MANY AREAS DO YOU THINK WILL BE IN CLAY COUNTY? >> THE SCALES ARE DIFFERENT AND IN THE TIMEFRAME, IT IS MORE LIMITED. I COULD GO BACK AND CHECK THAT. WE WILL DO SOME INITIAL PROJECT SPENDING MORE LATER ON. >> IT WILL BE A BIG TASK. >> WILL THERE BE A PRIORITY LIST AS FAR AS -- I WILL THAT HAPPEN? I SEE HIM NODDING HIS HEAD. >> WE ARE WORKING TO GET THE PROJECTS BASED ON THE INITIAL MODELING AND HELPING US DEVELOP THAT AS WELL. >> I HAVE A RESPONSE TO THAT. WE SAID IT. >> IT WILL FALL ON US, GRANTS AVAILABLE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> WHAT IS YOUR TIMING? >> 18 MONTHS IS THE OVERALL SCHEDULE. >> WILL YOU GET SOME EARLIER THAN THAT? >> WE DO HAVE SOME WHERE WE WILL HAVE INITIAL CONCEPT WHILE WE ARE WORKING WITH THE REST OF THE STUDY. >> I RECENTLY HEARD FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT TO TAKE. THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL OR BY PROPERTIES PREVIOUSLY LISTED IN A FEMA FLOOD AREA. I LIVE ON THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD THEY CAN HIRE AN ENVIRONMENTAL FIRM AND DO AN ASSESSMENT TO CHANGE THE FLOOD RATING. WOULD OUR RESIDENTS BE ABLE TO FINISH THE DATA, CAN THEY USE THIS AS A TOOL OR NOT? >> SOME OF THOSE MODELING WE ARE DOING WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED, SOME OF THE AREAS, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL STEP TAKING THAT INFORMATION. [01:05:04] >> >> IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE FLOOD INSURANCE, IS ONLY GOING UP IN FLORIDA. THANK YOU. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE PRIORITY AREAS. WILL THOSE BE DELIVERED INCREMENTALLY, I'M JUST THINKING, WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING, THIS IS A SEPARATE PROJECT. WE HAVE A SEPARATE PROJECT, AND WERE DOING A STUDY FOR RIGHT NOW. >> WHEN WILL THAT BE COMPLETED? >> NOT A SPECIFIC DAY, -- WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AS WE SPEAK. [17.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard. Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA 2022-15. (District 1, Comm. Cella) Planning Commission voted 7-0 to deny the proposed change. (M. Brown)] [18.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard. Public Hearing to consider adoption of Z-2022-22. (District 1, Comm. Cella) Planning Commission voted 7-0 to recommend denial of the rezoning request. (M. Brown)] >> I'M LOOKING AT THE TIME, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 17 FOR THE TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT ITEM 17 IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF CPA -- IT WAS A REQUEST OF A SMALL-SCALE AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. IT WOULD CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF THE PARCEL THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED IN ORDER TO WORK WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE BUT MR. BROWN IS HERE THIS AFTERNOON AND BECAUSE WE ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING WE WILL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> ITEM 17 AND 18 RUN TOGETHER. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED BOTH BE CONTINUED BUT WE DO NEED TO ADD THIS. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE EVERYBODY'S TIME. CAN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TOGETHER? I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MY NAME IS JAMES OTTO I LOOKED THROUGH THE AGENDA BEFORE HAND. IS THIS THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CHURCH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY WILL PUT IN. THE PROPOSAL WAS FOR AN EMERGENCY VETERAN CLINIC. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WAITING TO SPEAK? >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU ARE RIGHT HERE. >> HELLO I AM ANGELA WEEPER AND I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AND RESIDENT ON FLEMING STREET. I ATTENDED THE ZONING MEETING FOR THIS THREE WEEKS AGO AND I EXPRESS CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO IF THIS PROPOSED CHANGE WAS APPROVED, THERE ARE GRAVE CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE STATE BLOCKED OFF THE MEDIAN BACK IN THE '90S SO THAT LEAVES US THE EGRESS OF CLAY AND LLOYD STREET. AND OTHER THAN FLEMING, WE HAVE NO -- WE FEEL THIS WOULD BE A TOTAL NIGHTMARE WITH TRAFFIC. [01:10:16] THEY ARE MAKING A U-TURN RIGHT HERE. WE HAVE SOME USING THIS BUT USING THE EAST SIDE OF 17. THEY ARE SWINGING U-TURNS AT CLAY STREET. WE HAVE PEDESTRIANS ON THE BIKE PATH. THERE'S ALSO CLAY AND 17. THERE ARE CONCERNS THIS MAY IMPACT SCHOOL BUSES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GUARANTEE THERE WILL NOT BE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC BROUGHT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. EMERGENCIES CAN HAPPEN ANY TIME OF THE DAY. WE DON'T FEEL LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CAN SUPPORT THE TRAFFIC THIS BUSINESS WOULD BRING. WE DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD FIT OVERALL. A LOT OF CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE. I UNDERSTAND CHANGE COMES, BUT WE JUST CAN'T ACCEPT THIS ONE. THERE WERE SOME POINTS BROUGHT UP THAT THERE ARE BUSINESSES HERE. I AM A FOURTH GENERATION LANDOWNER FIT TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT I CAN TELL YOU THOSE BUSINESSES ARE GRANDFATHERED IN. PAT'S NURSERY USED TO BE SMITTY'S BAR, WALGREENS CLOSE THEIR DOORS. ANYTHING CAN SLIDE INTO THIS BUILDING. THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THIS WILL WORK OUT. THIS COULD BRING ANY BUSINESS INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PREVIOUSLY, THEY OPPOSED IT CITING THERE WERE OTHER -- AMPLE BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AREA AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BRING GET HERE. >> ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I SEE NONE, WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR A MOTION. >> I WANT TO CONTINUE BOTH ITEMS TO THE FEBRUARY 22 MEETING. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND PERIOD. >> I THINK IT IS FEBRUARY 28. >> WE HAVE OF MOTION AND A SECOND TO MOVE BOTH TO FEBRUARY 282023 SO THEY WILL COME BACK BEFORE US THEN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. MOTION CARRIES 5-0. [19.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider CPA-2022-13. (District 4, Comm. Condon) Planning Commission voted 5-2 to recommend approval. (D. Selig)] FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL THIS APPLICATION IS FOR A SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT TO THE FUTURE LAND-USE MAP. THIS WOULD CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF A PARCEL LAND TO THE SUBURBS. >> SO THAT APPLICANTS ARE MR. MR. AND MRS. PLEASANT. THIS IS A SINGLE PARCEL JUST OVER 23 AND A HALF ACRES. THE LEFT SHOWS THE PARCEL WITH THE GREAT HATCH. AND ON THE RIGHT WE HAVE THE SAME PARCEL OUTLINED IN YELLOW. YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE AERIAL. ON THE LEFT THIS IS THE FUTURE FOR SHOWS THE LARGE AREA WHICH IS PART OF FLOOD ZONE A. THIS IS THE CHANGE FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO SUBURB. THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE DIFFERENCES. [01:15:01] SO I ADDED THE SLIDE TO EXPLAIN IT. THIS IS URBAN SERVICES VERSUS ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS. IT IS LOAD DENSITY AND THE DENSITY IS ONE DWELLING UNIT. NET MEANING YOU TO TAKE THE GROSS ACREAGE AND THAT IS THE NET. THIS IS TO HOMES. THE SEPTIC TANKS WITH THE INCOME LEVELS AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. THIS IS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE. THIS WORKS OUT TO FOUR. THEY ARE ESSENTIALLY, VERY SIMILAR. THE PROPOSED INTO USE, IS A COMMUNICATION TOWER. THIS IS CONDITIONAL USE. IT REQUIRES A 50-FOOT BUFFER THAT BUFFER AS TO CONTAIN LANDSCAPE SCREENING, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS TO GO BEYOND THAT. FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. AS YOU MENTIONED, THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM. ANY QUESTIONS? MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE, IF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE, SOME CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD. SO, YOU ARE CHANGING THE NET DENSITY FROM TWO HOMES TO FOUR HOMES. BUT THIS PARCEL IS PLATTED, SO WHAT IS THE RAMIFICATION OF THAT CHANGE? >> WE HAVE LOOKED THROUGH ALL OF THE PLOTS, IT SHOWS THE EDGE OF THE PARCEL BUT NOT PART OF THE SUBDIVISION. THE DENSITY ISN'T REALLY CHANGING IT STILL FOUR UNITS. AS A GROSS ACREAGE CALCULATION IT DOESN'T TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE WETLANDS, TO DEVELOP CURRENTLY UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT IS NET THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO MITIGATE THOSE WETLANDS. THAT IS KIND OF MAN INVOLVED PROCESS. ST. JOHN'S WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE DELINEATION AND YOU PAY INTO THE BANK IF YOU DISTURB THE WETLANDS. BUT ON THE LARGEST IMPACT POTENTIAL, IT WOULD STILL BE 4 ACRES. AND COULD BE MORE THAN THAT. SO TODAY, HOW MANY STRUCTURES COULD BE PUT ON THIS PARCEL? AND IF WE MADE THE CHANGE IT WOULD STILL BE TWO? OR WOULD IT BE FOR? IT SAYS FOR BOTH THE PRACTICAL REALITY IS TWO. YOU STILL HAVE TO MITIGATE THE WETLANDS REGARDLESS. ALTHOUGH WE SAY YOU HAVE A DENSITY OF FOUR, YOU STILL CAN'T BUILD ON THE WETLANDS. THE FUNCTIONAL REALITY IS IT IS NOT MORE THAN TWO. MY FINAL QUESTION FOR NOW, THE APPLICANT IS APPLYING AS A CONDITIONAL USE. THE USE IS ALLOWED IN THE [01:20:07] PRESENT ZONING. BUT, IT IS A DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND THE FUTURE LAND USE PROPERTY, AND IN ORDER TO DEVELOP YOUR ZONING AS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR LAND USE DESIGNATION AND RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT. IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE MASTER PLAN. IT HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OF MASTER-PLANNED. I'M ASSUMING, WE ARE MIGRATING TO 5G. THEY ARE ALL TREETOP LEVEL OR LOWER. I DON'T KNOW -- IT WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BASICALLY. THERE'S HOMES ALL AROUND IT, SO I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE TOWER, I WOULD HAVE TO RELY ON THE APPLICANT TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION. WHAT KIND OF CAMOUFLAGE WOULD HIDE IT? IF IT'S GOING TO BE WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE A PINE TREE, THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT. ARE A. SO, DO YOU WANT TO JUST JUMP IN. ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTION. THE CHAIR WILL COME BACK AND. THIS PART. I ASSUME YOU ARE THE APPLICANT, SIR? IF YOU WOULD IDENTIFY YOURSELF. >> >> SO THE QUESTION I GUESS YOU HEARD, IN TERMS OF THE TOWER HEIGHT, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO? >> A VERTICAL BRIDGE, A COMMUNICATION STYLE WORK, THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO PUT UP TALLER TOWER IN. I DIDN'T KNOW THESE WERE SHORTER. I HAVE THEM LOOK AT THE PARCEL, I MEAN, SURE THEY WERE GOING TO LOOK AT A LOCATION ON THE SIDE AWAY FROM THE HOME SPIRIT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PLOT, IT IS QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY. THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS. SINCE THE PROPERTY IS PREDOMINANTLY WETLANDS. MY WIFE AND I BOUGHT THIS AS AN INHERITANCE. WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO DEVELOP IT. I HAVE FRIENDS AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT NATURAL. I KNOW THEY SAID WE COULD PUT FOUR HOMES ON IT, BUT THAT'S A THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE COUNTY DO WE HAVE A SITE MAP? WE COULD BACK UP IF YOU DON'T MIND. >> THAT'S FINE. THE ONE ON MY RIGHT, WOULD BE IN GREEN. IS THIS THE DESIGNATION? WHERE WOULD THE TOWER GO? THIS IS AT THE DOOR THIN, THERE ARE TWO POTENTIAL SITES. TALKING TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, I DON'T LIVE OUT THERE, BUT I AM TOLD THE [01:25:06] CELLULAR SERVICE IS SPOTTY AT BEST. PEOPLE RELY ON THEIR CELL PHONES FOR COMMUNICATION AND THEY SAY IT'S BODY. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ALLEVIATE THAT. JUST ENHANCING THE COVERAGE I GUESS. WE WILL MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A NUMBER OF CARDS ON THE ITEM. THIS IS THE ITEM YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON? >> INSTRUCTOR: THESE ARE ON 1 ACRE OR 2 ACRES. PLUS WE HAVE THE ROADS THAT ARE SPREAD OUT. THESE ARE ON LIVE OAK LANE. THE NEED FOR THE TOWER, NOT JUST THE CONVENIENCE BUT SAFETY. IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN OR ADULTS OUT WALKING, JOGGING OR BICYCLING, HORSEBACK RIDING, HAVING A CELL PHONE SIGNAL CAN BE IMPORTANT. THE CHANGE REQUEST SHOULD BE APPROVED SO WE CAN GET BETTER SERVICE. AND THIS WOULD MEET THE NEED. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE MS. PATRICIA. AND I ALWAYS BUTCHERED YOUR LAST NAME SO I WON'T TRY. >> TELL ME HOW TO PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME. >> PATRICIA. FOX MEADOW. I AM HERE TO OPPOSE THE REZONING FOR THE CELL TOWER IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS TRUE THIS WOULD NOT TECHNICALLY BE IN FOX MEADOW. THE PROPERTY HAS MANY HOUSES THAT SURROUNDED IN A HORSESHOE PATTERN AND MANY PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITHIN THE SHADOW OF THIS TOWER. I AM DISAPPOINTED A LACK OF AWARENESS CAN HARDLY BE BLAMED ON NEIGHBORS. IT TAKES A LITTLE SEARCH EFFORT TO FIND ARTICLES THAT HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT THE DANGERS. IT IS SIMILAR TO THE QUESTIONING OF THE TELECOM GIANTS WHO CONDUCTED 0 RESEARCH ON THE HEALTH IMPACT ON HUMANS OR THE IMPACT. ALSO A DOCUMENTARY CHRONICLING THE SMART METERS AND HAS MOVED FORWARD SERVING AS A HUB. DEAR COMMISSIONER SPIRIT I WILL ASSUME YOU LIVE IN A HOUSE. LET'S SAY YOU DISCOVERED A NEW DUMP WAS GOING IN. A LANDFILL BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT, WHY NOT, BECAUSE IT WOULD STINK SO BAD YOU WOULD SAY. YOU WOULD SAY WE HAVE CHEMICALS BUT IT WOULD LOOK TERRIBLE AND RIGHT OUT OF MY BACK DOOR. [01:30:03] BUT THE CLOSENESS WOULD BENEFIT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. NOT ONLY THAT BECAUSE IT IS CLOSER WE NO LONGER HAVE TO SEND OUR TRUCK SPIRIT THERE IS A POSSIBILITY WE WE CAN HAVE TRASH PICKUP TWICE PER WEEK. BUT THERE ARE PAINT CANS AND BATTERIES, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT DANGEROUS STUFF NEAR PEOPLE'S HOMES YOU WOULD SAY IT'S A HEALTH HAZARD. COMMISSIONERS, YOU CAN SEE, I'M SORRY, THAT IS WHY THE LANDFILLS ARE FAR AWAY FROM PEOPLE. NO ONE LIVES NEAR THOSE THINGS. WE NEED LANDFILLS WE NEED CELL TOWERS BUT WE DON'T NEED THEM IN OUR BACKYARD SPIRIT THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE ELSEWHERE. THERE IS AN ENTIRE FOREST NEARBY THAT COULD PROVIDE GOOD SERVICE. I HAVE SIX GRANDCHILDREN CHILDREN'S DEVELOPING OUR FAT AND THE PARENTS ARE BESIDE THEMSELVES WITH ANGER. I WILL REFER YOU TO AN ARTICLE, HOW THE FCC SHIELDS CELL PHONE COMPANIES FROM SAFETY CONCERNS. THE STORY OF THESE RESIDENTS, 17 WHO BECAME ILL WITHIN WEEKS OF THE CELL TOWER INSTALLATION. MY NEIGHBORS FAMILIES ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS MY FAMILY. PLEASE RECONSIDER REZONING THE PROPERTY. YOUR CONSTITUENTS DESERVE BETTER OR AT THE VERY LEAST DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE. THIS MEANS CONSTANT EXPOSURE DAY AND NIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MR. CLAYTON. -- I'M SORRY CLINTON. >> I'M GOING TO SPEAK AGAINST IT TOO. I AM THE LOT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND WHAT THEY WILL USED TO ACCESS THIS. I'M WORRYING ABOUT THEM FILLING IT IN. AND MITIGATING THE LAND SO THEY CAN PUT MORE PROPERTY THERE. IF THEY DO THAT THEY WILL CHANGE AND FLOOD EVERYONE'S PROPERTY. BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY ROAD. I MOVED OUT THERE IN 1980. AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER PROMISED ME, THAT THE ROAD WOULD BE PAVED IN FIVE YEARS. IT HAS NOT BEEN DONE. THERE WAS A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE THAT LISTED A LOT OF ROADS THAT WOULD BE PAID. IT WAS LIKE NUMBER TWO ON THE LIST BUT THAT YEAR THEY HAD AN ELECTION AND SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, JUST KIND OF DISAPPEARED OUT OF THE BUDGET AND THEY HAD TO CUT OFF THE ROAD. SO IT WAS NOT DONE THEN EITHER. SEVERAL YEARS LATER I WHINED TO THE COMMISSIONERS ABOUT MY ROAD NOT BEING PAVED. AND TRAVIS SAID, IM SURE THAT YOU GET A DISCOUNT ON YOUR PROPERTY TAXES BECAUSE YOU LIVE ON A DIRT ROAD, THAT'S NOT TRUE. THEY SAID WE APPRAISE IT ON THE SQUARE OOTAGE OF THE HOUSE BUT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROAD YOU LIVE ON. MY PROPERTY ASSESSMENT HIGHLY APPRAISED BECAUSE MY HOUSE IS NICE, BUT MY NEIGHBORS NOT SO NICE. I HAVE ANOTHER THING I WANT TO WHINE ABOUT. WHEN I MOVED THERE, GEORGE BUSH LIVED ON A DIRT ROAD. ALL OF THE HORSE ROADS WERE DIRT. ALL OF THE ROADS WERE NOT EVEN THERE YET. THEY WERE DIRT AND NOW THEY ARE PAID. THE STATE MOVED OUT THERE AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR. THEY PUT IN A GAS PIPELINE, AND [01:35:09] TRUCKS WENT UP THE ROAD AND TOWARD THE ROAD UP. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF A RESCUE VEHICLE COULD GET TO MY PROPERTY IF I NEEDED IT. >> I CAN TELL YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT ITEM. I HAVE AN E-MAIL OUT OFF THE PRESS, THAT SAYS WE RECEIVED AND REVIEWED THE DESIGN PLANS LAST WEEK. 90% ARE DUE BY JANUARY 31 OF 2023. >> I DO THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOME HOUSES OVER THERE. >> MR. OTTO. >> WILLIAM JAMES OTTO. YES, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IT WON'T ADD AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS THE ROAD FIVE YEARS AGO. SO, I REALLY WANT TO THANK PATRICIA FOR HER COMMENTS. I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT AND THE GENTLEMAN JUST UP. UNFORTUNATELY A LOT OF IT WENT TO THE FAIRGROUNDS INSTEAD OF THE TAXPAYER. MAYBE WE CAN GET AN ANSWER ON HOW THIS JUST WENT TO THE FAIRGROUNDS. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> MY NAME IS TINA MASSEY. IM THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY BEHIND WHERE THE TOWER IS SUPPOSED TO GO. I DON'T NECESSARILY OBJECT TO THE TOWER I RECOGNIZE THE NEED IN THE AREA. I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT BEING AT MY BACK DOOR, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A WAY TO DISGUISE IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT POTENTIAL HEALTH PROBLEMS BUT I WOULD HOPE YOU ALL WOULD LOOK INTO THAT BEFORE PUTTING IT SO CLOSE TO MY HOME. WHAT CONCERNS ME MORE IS THE FACT THAT YOU ALL FIND IT NECESSARY TO CHANGE THE ZONING WHICH WOULD POTENTIALLY PUT US AT RISK FOR MULTIPLE HOMES ON THAT SITE AS OPPOSED TO THE ONE HOME PER DEVELOPED PROPERTY. I CANNOT PUT TOO HIGH FOR HOMES ON MY PROPERTY. MY CONCERN IS EVEN THOUGH WE ARE TOLD TODAY THERE IS NO INTENT BUT IT COULD HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY IF THE PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS. I WOULD QUESTION WHY THERE CAN'T BE AN ADDENDUM TO THE CURRENT ZONING SO THE DENSITY COULD NOT BE CHANGED. THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN. >> ANYONE ELSE? I SEE NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. AT ONE POINT, I WENT TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETING AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS PLATTED. ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS WITH THE CHANGE WE MADE SEVERAL MONTHS BACK TO THE MASTER PLAN, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WHERE WE ALLOWED ANYTHING THAT PLATTED IN THE SUBDIVISION COULD ALLOW A [01:40:07] MOBILE HOME TO BE PUT ON IT. THE CONCERN IS BY CHANGING THIS DESIGNATION WE WOULD OPEN THAT PROPERTY OUT WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT. TODAY, IT COULD HAVE UP TO TWO HOMES BUILT ON A. BUT NOT MOBILE HOMES. BUT IF WE CHANGE THE DESIGNATION IT COULD HAVE TWO MOBILE HOMES PUT ON IT? >> I REALLY NEED TO GO BACK TO BE SURE. UNLESS I CAN PERSUADE MIKE TO WEIGH IN. THAT IS ONE CONCERN I HAVE HEARD. AND I HEARD FROM ANOTHER RESIDENT, AND DOUG IS STILL HERE. I HEARD FROM ONE, I WAS PULLING BACK UP THE DOCUMENT THE INDIVIDUAL SENDS AN E-MAIL, DOES LIVE IN FOX METAL SUBDIVISION AND AGREES, WHERE MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO BE FALLING THEY COULD USE THE CELL PHONE TOWER. HE SAID IS CONCERNED IS THE USE OF THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY. AND UNDERSTANDS THERE WAS SOME INFORMATION FLOATING AROUND THAT THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AT ONE POINT REQUIRED THAT PARCEL BE SET ASIDE AS WETLANDS. SO CERTAINLY, THAT WOULD HAVE SOME IMPACT ON THIS, AND THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER CONCERN THERE HAVE BEEN TRUCKLOADS OF DIRT USING A UTILITY EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION. BUT I GUESS THE CONCERN IS THAT'S NOT OURS, THOSE WEREN'T THE CONCERNS, IF. >> THIS WOULD GO THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS BUT PRESUMING THEY DID THIS GOES THROUGH ALL OF THE ZONING AND ALL OF THAT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW US THE SITES NOT IMPACTING THE WETLANDS. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? >> VERIFICATION ONE MORE TIME. >> WE ARE CHANGING THIS TO FUTURE LAND USE. THAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME. AS IT STANDS NOW, WE COULDN'T PUT A TOWER THERE. THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN KEEP THAT. CAN WE, BESIDES THE HEALTH ISSUE, THE DENSITY AND THE FEAR, THE APPLICANT SELLS AND SOMEONE ELSE PUTS THE HOUSE THERE, CAN WE PREVENT THEM FROM DOING THAT OR REZONE IT? THEY ALREADY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT FOUR HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY, NOTHING CHANGES. THERE IS NO DENSITY CHANGED BY THIS ACTION. I DID GET AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION. AS OF TODAY, MOBILE HOMES ARE NOT ALLOWED. [01:45:02] HOWEVER IF IT DOES GO THROUGH, POTENTIALLY, THEY COULD HAVE, BUT AS I SAID, IT WILL BE LESS DENSITY THAN THE SURROUNDING AREA. >> THERE ARE MOBILE HOMES, BUT NOT IN FOX METAL WITH THE FOLKS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS. THERE WAS NOT ONE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE TOWER. IT WASN'T CHANGED, BECAUSE THE SUBDIVISION PREDATES THE MASTER PLAN. >> >> A RIGHT NOW YOU CAN. >> THIS ALLOWANCE WAS DONE RECENTLY, AND WE CHANGE THIS FOR GOOD REASON. THE NEIGHBORS HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I WILL REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME. >> I NEVER HAD ANYONE ASK ME TOO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING. >> IN THE PRIOR MEETING, THEY SAID BASED ON WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS, THEY COULD DO THE TOWER BUT IT HAD TO BE FURTHER AWAY. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEY SAID -- >> THEY QUESTIONED IT. >> THAT HAPPENED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I WATCH THAT SECTION. BUT IT WAS ABOUT THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. >> IT WAS 50 FEET OR 200 FEET, THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE. >> IT IS DIFFERENT FOR CELL TOWERS OUTSIDE OF THE MASTER PLAN AREA. BUT, CELL TOWERS HAVE A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT DESIGN CRITERIA. >> SO THEY WERE NOT REFERRING TO THIS AREA. THE WAY IT READS, THAT YOU HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STANDARD AND IN ADDITION YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THE DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED [01:50:02] EXCEPT THAT THE SETBACK IS WAIVED. AND THE INTENT WAS THERE WOULD BE MORE DENSITY AND ACTIVITY CENTER AREA IS AND THEY WERE TRYING TO TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT GREATER DENSITY AND THE DISTANCES. THERE IS LANGUAGE ABOUT THE CAMOUFLAGE OF THE TOWERS AND EXCITES THINGS LIKE -- KIND OF ANTICIPATING YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT BUILDING FOOTPRINT. >> I THINK I WILL MAKE YOUR HEAD HURT BUT A VALID QUESTION. WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN IT WAS 2005, CORRECT? IT IS 2022, THE WORLD IS VERY DIFFERENT. WE DIDN'T HAVE SMART PHONES IN OUR WORLD WAS DEPENDENT ON THESE THINGS. WERE TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT SOMETHING PUT INTO COLD ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. I MEAN, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I HEARD FROM, WITH VERY FEW OBJECTIONS DON'T HAVE OBJECTIONS TO A CELL TOWER THEY HAVE OBJECTION WITH WHAT COULD COME WITH CHANGING THIS. THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER PEOPLE AND I WANT TO RESPECT THEIR WISHES. I HEAR YOU BUT REALLY, FOR ME, THE DIFFICULTY IS CHANGING THE ZONING AND WORKING HAPPEN WITH THIS PROPERTY BASED ON SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. TO THE POINT EARLIER, WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO SOLVE THIS WITHOUT ALLOWING FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR A NEGATIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DISHES BEING THE ISSUE? >> ALLOWING THE MOBILE HOME SPIRIT THEY WOULD RATHER LEAVE IT AND PUT THE CELL TOWER IN. WE ARE CHANGING IT. TRANSIENT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED WAS IS IT APPROPRIATE CODE NO, THE CODE IS OUTDATED. HOWEVER IT IS IMPORTANT TO SAY ALLOW. MIKE AND I WERE TALKING, IF THE MOBILE HOME ISSUE IS THE BIGGEST, THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED IF WE COULD MAKE IT CONDITIONAL USE THAT COULD ALLOW FOR THE CELL TOWER THAT IS JUST OFF OF THE CUFF RIGHT HERE. A LOT OF THAT IS UP TO THE APPLICANT. >> I WANTED TO ASK YOU, WHEN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES WE WEREN'T TOUCHING THE MASTER PLAN, IS THAT CORRECT? [01:55:02] >> ZONING BUT NOT FUTURE LAND USE. >> THAT'S WHY THE REQUEST TO CHANGE. >> CAN WE ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE? >> CAN THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME BACK UP, I'M SORRY DIDN'T SEE YOU. >> WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CONTINUE THIS SO WE CAN WORK OUT A DIFFERENT SOLUTION WITH NO CONFUSION WE'VE HAD THIS EVENING. >> I'M NOT A FAN OF MOBILE HOME SPIRIT LET ME PUT THEIR MINDS AT EASE ABOUT THAT. WE NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH, WITH THIS I'M FINE WITH THAT. WE CAN WORK A SCHEDULE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ARE WE WAITING FOR A MOTION? >> AS FAR AS A CONTINUANCE, WE PLEAD THAT'S RIGHT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE JANUARY DATES, PREFERABLY JANUARY 24. >> I MOVED TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 19 UNTIL JANUARY 24. >> A SECOND. >> OKAY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE ITEM 19, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. NONE OPPOSED IT CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU. [20.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard. Second Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA 2022-09. (District 5, Comm. Burke) Board voted 5-0 to recommend transmittal. (M. Brown)] [21.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard. Second Public Hearing to consider adoption of LDC 2022-07. (District 5, Comm. Burke) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval. (M. Brown)] INCORPORATED YOU FOR WORKING WITH US. >> ITEM NUMBER 20. SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF CPA2022 -- ZERO NINE IN COMMISSIONER BURKE'S DISTRICT. THE BOARD VOTED 5-02 RECOMMEND TRANSMITTAL. THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO POLICY LAFLU 1. FOR .10 OF THE CLAY COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO EXEMPT LAKE ASBURY VILLAGE CENTERS WHICH ARE LESS THAN 10 ACRES IN SIZE. >> MIKE BROWN, ZONING CHEAP. LOOKING AT CPA 22 -- 2220.9, THIS WOULD EXEMPT LAKE ASBURY VILLAGE CENTERS WHICH ARE LESS THAN 10 ACRES IN SIZE FROM ABUSES SET FORTH IN THE COMPOUND. I WANT TO POINT OUT, ITEM 21 IS THE COMPANION LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE. SO IT WILL BE APPLICABLE, BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME WORDING. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND. THERE ARE EIGHT VILLAGE CENTERS IN THE MASTER PLAN AREA. AS SET FORTH IN THE, PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, EVERY VILLAGE CENTER IS REQUIRED TO BE 20% AND 65% MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL. IT CAN GO UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 25%. COMMERCIAL RETAIL TO A MAXIMUM OF 65%. THIS IS LESS THAN 10 ACRES. THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THIS ONE VILLAGE CENTER. NONE OF THE OTHERS, IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO THEM. A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND FOR THIS CENTER, THIS VILLAGE CENTER WOULD HAVE TO BE 1.6 ACRES OF [02:00:16] RESIDENTIAL, A MAXIMUM OF AND 1.5 ACRES AND THIS WOULD BE 0.6. THIS PARCEL IS ALREADY DEVELOPED. THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL PLANS OF RETAIL USE WITHIN THE RETAIL CENTER. WITH THE REQUIRED BREAKDOWN YOU WOULD HAVE REQUIRED SIX-POINT 5 ACRES TO BE RECREATION. THIS WOULD LEAVE THIS AREA TO BE DEVELOPED. YOU CAN GO TEN UNITS WITH EVERYTHING WITH THIS MAKE GETTING THIS REMAINING PART. THAT IS THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO ADD THE WORDING IN DREAD OF THE SLIDE THAT WOULD STATE, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FOREGOING, ANY VILLAGE CENTER CONSISTING OF LESS THAN 10 ACRES EXISTING SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE MIX USE IN THE ABOVE MATRIX. I WANT TO POINT OUT, THE PHRASE, EXISTING CAME FROM A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN THEY HEARD THIS. THE TEXT AMENDMENT WAS TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE REVIEWING AGENCY. THE COUNTY RAPESEED. THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED CHANGE, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE COMP PLAN AND THEY VOTED 7-02 RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO INCLUDE THE EXISTING VILLAGE CENTERS. THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT ANY THAT CAME IN THEY DID NOT WANT THAT EXCEPTION TO APPLY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION, REVIEWED THE CHANGE THIS WOULD EXEMPT THE VILLAGE CENTERS FROM THE QUANTIFICATION SET FORTH IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, FOR THOSE SET FORTH IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT? I KNOW THIS IS OUR SECOND HEARING DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK AND COME UP. >> JAMES OTTO, CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA. , THE GOOD NEWS IS THERE WOULD BE LESS ROAD TRIPS BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD WALK OR BIKE OR SOMETHING IN THE SMALLER STORAGE AREAS, MY CONCERN WOULD BE, IF YOU HAVE THIS MASTER PLAN AND NOW YOU ARE CHANGING IT AND PUTTING IN A STORAGE, THAT WOULD BE A MAJOR CONCERN. [02:05:04] I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE ADVERTISED THIS I DO AGREE WITH BUILDING THE AREA UP. 3-4 STORIES. IT'S RIGHT BY THE OUTER BELTWAY. WE SHOULD HAVE MORE GREEN SPACE, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GET A PICTURE OF THIS. THAT'S A LITTLE OFF-TOPIC SO I I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER. THE IMPACT FEES, CAN YOU GIVE US AN AMOUNT ON HOW MUCH WE WILL GET IF WE CHANGE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M ALWAYS BIG ABOUT THE ROAD TRIPS. WHEN YOU CHANGE DENSITY. I KNOW IT WON'T AFFECT THE SCHOOL BUT IF WE COULD ADD THESE AMOUNTS SO WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. ESPECIALLY THE ROAD TRIPS. THE NEW COMMISSIONER IS REALLY ON IT. BUT FOR YEARS THEY REFUSED TO LOOK AT IT. IF YOU COULD BRING THAT IN. IF I'VE MISSED IT I APOLOGIZE. >> THANK YOU MR. OTTO. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? >> AFTER THE PUBLIC WILL YOU ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK? >> YES. >> HI, MY NAME IS K I LIVE AT 420 WESLEY ROAD. TODAY, I DID SOME ROAD TRIPS. IT IS THREE AND HALF MILES TO THE OTHER DOLLAR GENERAL. WHEN YOU APPROVE THESE STORES THAT COME IN, YOU SHOULD BE MORE OBSERVANT OF WHAT IS IN THE AREA, DID WE NEED THIS SHOP? COULD IT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING ELSE TO TAKE UP THE SPACE BETTER. THE GAS STATION NEXT DOOR ISN'T THE BEST. LAKE ASBURY IS NICE WITH HORSES AND CATTLE AND CHICKENS, AND THEN WE HAVE STORES COMING IN, I SAW THIS FOR MANY YEARS. I SEE MULTIPLE DOLLAR GENERAL'S COMING IN WILL YOU PUT IN MORE, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED AND AFRAID OF THE SHOPS COMING IN. THESE BIG CHAIN STORES THAT PUT ONE EVERY 2-3 MILES, IS THAT NECESSARY. I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER, BE MORE CONSIDERATE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT IS GOING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> FILL OUT A CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE THE APPLICANT COME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU I GUESS I'M THE APPLICANT IN THIS MATTER. MIKE, COULD YOU PUT UP THE BACKGROUND PICTURE OF THE SITE. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THE COLOR, I CAN'T NAME IT BUT IT IS NOT THE RED. IT WAS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WAS A QUIRK WHEN THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED. IT APPLIED TO THE VILLAGE CENTER CATEGORY TWO THIS LITTLE RECTANGLE. AND AT THAT TIME OR SINCE THEN, THERE WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE AND A DOLLAR GENERAL PUT IT NEXT WITH. THAT ENOUGH WHAT IS LEFT SUBJECT TO THE MATRIX OF THE USES OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THE MASTER PLAN WHICH MAKES THIS PARCEL FINANCIALLY UNFEASIBLE TO BE DEVELOPED. YOU WOULD BASICALLY HAVE. [02:13:32] INTO PLAY THIS WOULD NOT NOT APPLY. I WANT TO MOVE APPROVAL. >> WE NEED TO SEPARATE VOTES? CHARACTERS HAS ALREADY BEEN TRANSMITTED. BAKKEN, IT WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBR 13 AND APPROVED AT THAT TIME. NOW IT IS BACK TO YOUR FINAL. >> APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 20. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE [22.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public hearing to consider adoption of a resolution closing, vacating and abandoning a portion of Seminole Ave. right of way within the plat of Fellowship Park, recorded in Plat Book 2, Page 61, public records of Clay County, Florida.] >> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> I WANT TO ALSO MOVE APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER 21. >> WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> EVER MOTION NANOSECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU. >> MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER 22. THE PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF A RESOLUTION CLOSING, VACATING AND ABANDONING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF [02:15:04] SEMINOLE AVENUE RIGHT OF WAY WITHIN THE PLOT OF, RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK TWO, PAGE 61, PUBLIC RECORDS OF CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA. >> AS YOU WILL RECALL AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING THE RESOLUTION WAS SENT TO ADOPT THE PUBLIC HEARING. SINCE THEN THE STAFF AND APPLICANT HAS HAD DISCUSSIONS ON THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO THE JANUARY 24 MEETING SO THEY CAN FINISH DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THIS APPLICATION. >> BECAUSE WE ADVERTISE THE PUBLIC. I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TONIGHT? >> YOU HAVE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM MR. OTTO. >> YES, MA'AM. >> JUST A QUESTION, IS THIS PERTAINING TO THAT ROAD THAT YOU WILL DISCONTINUE FOR THE EXTENSION AT 220 BECAUSE OF THE OVERGROWTH? I SAW AT ANOTHER MEETING -- >> NO, THIS IS A DIFFERENT ROAD. >> OKAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS PERTAINING TO THAT. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING? I WILL BRING -- WE DO -- I'M SORRY SIR. GOOD I. >> MY NAME IS TROY ANDERSON I LIVE AT 1577 ( INDISCERNIBLE ) I AM YOUR APPLICANT. FOR THIS EASEMENT IN QUESTION. I JUST WANTED TO TELL EVERYONE THIS EASEMENT, THE FRONT PART WAS CLOSED BACK IN JANUARY 2021, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A PART THAT IS 150-FOOT BACK AND IT STARTS THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF MY PROPERTY AND GOES TO THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY. I HAVE CONTACTED THE OTHER LANDOWNER INVOLVED AND WE DID NOT GET ANY RESPONSE BACK. THE REMAINDER PORTION DOES NOT SERVE ANYBODY. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. LIKE I SAID THERE WAS ONE OTHER LANDOWNER INVOLVED THAT WE CAN'T GET IN TOUCH WITH. CLOSING THIS WOULD PUT THIS PIECE OF LAND ON THE TAX ROLL AND GENERATE REVENUE. THIS LAND HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED IN OVER 50 YEARS. I HAVE BEEN HERE, WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS, 51 YEARS AND THIS HAS NOT CHANGED. I JUST WANT TO COME APPEAR AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND NO THIS HAS NO EFFECT ON ANYONE BUT MYSELF PRETTY MUCH. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I MISSED YOUR CARD. I ALSO HAVE A CARD FROM JONES. >> I AM A RETIRED NURSE AND I CAN UNDERSTAND MEDICAL STUFF AND THE DESCRIPTIONS YOU HAVE HERE IS WHAT THE TOPIC IS. IS THIS HAVING TO DO WITH THE IMPACT FEE AND THE MORATORIUM EXTENSION? >> IT'S THE NEXT LINE EMPIRIC. >> YOU ARE TWO ITEMS MORE. THANK YOU. >> I HAVE GOTTEN CONFUSED TONIGHT TOO, IS JUST NOT YOU. ANYONE ELSE ON THIS ITEM? AND MR. ANDERSON, YOU WERE OKAY WITH A CONTINUANCE UNTIL JANUARY? SINCE YOU WERE HERE TONIGHT I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL US. I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION OR DISCUSSION. >> OUR MOVE APPROVAL TO CONTINUE ITEM 22 UNTIL JANUARY. >> RIVER MOTION NANOSECOND ALL IN FAVOR -- ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0. >> AND THE RESOLUTION IN THE BOOK, AT LEAST FOR A COPY I HAVE, IT HAS ME DOWN AS CHAIRMAN SO WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT. [23.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA-2022-11 to amend the Traffic Circulation Map of the Transportation Element (Board voted 5-0 transmit) (E. Lehman)] >> ALL RIGHT ITEM NUMBER 23. FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF CPA -- 2022 -- 11 TO AMEND THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MAP OF THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT. THE BOARD VOTED 5-02 TRANSMITTED. I BELIEVE WE VOTED A WHILE AGO. >> YOU VOTED IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. IT HAS BEEN TRANSMITTED AND THERE HAS NOT TRACKED THERE WERE NO COMMENTS RECEIVED BACK. [02:20:01] SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING AT THIS POINT IS FOR THE BOARDS FINAL APPROVAL TO AMEND THE 2040 TRAFFIC CIRCULATION MAP OF THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT TO ADD RADAR ROAD, TOWN CENTER BOULEVARD AND TIMES BOULEVARD/ROYAL LAKES PARKWAY. >> WE NEED A PUBLIC HEARING? >> NO. >> WHERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 23 ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HOPEFULLY WE HEARD FROM YOU BACK IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. I SEE NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION. >> ARE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I THINK YOU BOTH HAVE ROADS ON THEIR. WE HAVE OF MOTION BY COMMISSIONER CELLA SECOND BY ( INDISCERNIBLE ) SEEING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION. [24.  5:00 P.M. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing on an Ordinance extending the current moratorium on applications filed on or after November 9, 2021, for land use amendments to the Clay County 2040 Comprehensive Plan or for rezoning of parcels that effectively increase the allowable residential densities within the Lake Asbury Master Plan Area (C. Grimm)] ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NOW WE ARE TO ITEM 24. THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING ON AN ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE CURRENT MORATORIUM ON APPLICATIONS FILED ON OR AFTER NOVEMBER 9, TWINS WERE THE ONE FOR LAND-USE AMENDMENTS TO THE CLAY COUNTY 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR FOR REZONING OF PARCELS THAT EFFECTIVELY INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WITHIN THE LAKE AS MARRIED MASTER PLAN AREA. >> YES, BACK IN NOVEMBER 2021 THE BOARD ADOPTED ORDINANCE 21 -- 48 WHICH IMPOSE THE MORATORIUM IN CONNECTION WITH ANY APPLICATIONS THAT WOULD INCREASE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WITH GIVEN THE LAKE AS MARRIED MASTER PLAN THAT IS GETTING READY TO EXPIRE IN DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR END THE REQUEST HAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO CONTINUE AND EXTEND THAT MORATORIUM FOR ANOTHER YEAR. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOW YOU CAN COME UP NCS. >> AGAIN I AM ON 209B, NOT FAR FROM SANDRIDGE WE ONLY HAVE ONE EXIT OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. I AM A NURSE. HEALTH ISSUES, EMERGENCIES, RIGHT NOW, WE ADDED A LIGHT, THE LIGHT WAS TAKEN OUT THAT DID NOT HELP US BECAUSE YOU COULD TURN ON RED. WITHOUT THAT IT HAS GOTTEN FASTER. THIS -- I HAVE CARS GETTING CLOSER TO THE REAR END OF MY CAR. YOU MAKE HAVE MORE TICKETS BUT PEOPLE ARE NOT NECESSARILY SLOWING DOWN. FOR THOSE OF US THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR CARS INTACT, THE SLOW DOWN OF THE TRAFFIC HAS NOT MADE IT EASIER TO GET OUT. SO PLEASE, THERE MAY BE PLANS IT MAY BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING MAKING GETTING OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ANY SAFER OR ANY TRAFFIC GETTING OUT TO 17 SO PLEASE EXTEND THIS UNTIL SOMETHING IS SAFELY DONE. >> I HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL CARDS. >> I'M BACK AGAIN. K MANLEY. I SUPPORTS EXTENDING THE MORATORIUM, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO SPEED. WHEN YOU SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND WHAT WILL BE BILLED, WHAT WAS APPROVED IT IS REALLY SCARY. THEY STILL PASS YOU. JUST HOLDING ON TIGHT TO MAKE SURE I WANT TO BE HERE FOR MY KIDS AND GRANDKIDS. NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. YOU NEED MORE TIME TO FINISH WHAT IS BEING PLANNED. HAVING THESE HOMES COME IN. THEY SCRAPE THE LAND CLEAR. [02:25:01] WHEN I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE MASTER PLANNING WE TALKED ABOUT GREEN SPACES. WE TALKED ABOUT ANIMALS GOING FROM ONE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NEXT. I DON'T SEE THAT AT ALL. I KNOW THAT IS PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ALL OF IT. THE ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE. PLEASE CONTINUE MORATORIUM SO THEY CAN -- OUR NICE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND GET OUR ROADS DONE, PLEASE. >> I AM ALSO IN AGREEMENT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON THAT WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE CHANGES AND ZONING. WE HAVE THE STORMWATER STUDY AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WILL COME FORTH. WHAT THE DATA WILL SHOW BECAUSE THAT WILL IMPACT THE DESIGN. IN TERMS OF THE CODE, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THERE WILL COME OUT FROM THERE IN TERMS OF CONSOLIDATION. HENLEY ROAD, SANDRIDGE, YOU DON'T NEED TO SAY MORE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT 12 MONTHS WILL BRING US. IT'S IMPORTANT WE GO CAREFULLY. I RECOMMEND KEEPING THINGS AS THEY ARE. I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD DECISION. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS, MR. OTTO? >> YES, MA'AM, JAMES OTTO CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA HOTELS. AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO IMPACT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO BUILD UP, JUST BECAUSE GROWTH IS COMING THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO OBLIGE. THAT WILL MAKE THE PROPERTY VALUE GO UP. YOU GUYS ARE SPENDING MONEY LIKE CRAZY. WE NEED TO SLOW AND LET THINGS LEVEL OUT A LITTLE BIT. IM DEFINITELY FOR THIS MORATORIUM. I DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THIS AREA I LIVE ON LANDING BOULEVARD WITH SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF MIKE PROPERTY HAVE BEEN COMING HERE 18 YEARS FOR OTHER PEOPLE. WE HAVE THE SCHOOLS TO THINK ABOUT THAT ARE FAILING OUR CHILDREN. THE IMPACT FEE WAS NOT COLLECTED IN GETTING THE MONEY WHICH IS NOW $134 MILLION. THIS IS THE NEW ROAD YOU WILL PUT ON 220. HOW MUCH DO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED HERE FOR 20 YEARS GOING TO HAVE TO TO WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL FOR ALL OF THE DEATHS. SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE. THIS IS CRAZY AND HE IS SITTING OVER HERE LAUGHING. IT'S NOT FUNNY THAT PEOPLE ARE DYING ON 21 BECAUSE YOU DON'T WR THE INTERIOR ROADS. THIS MAKES ME SICK. I HAVE COME HERE FOR 18 YEARS AND I HEAR THE SAME THING. OUR PROPERTIES ARE BEING FLOODED BY THE NEW ROADS. OUR AUTO INSURANCE WENT UP TO. FOR.HIS GOVERNOR I DIDN'T VOTE- >> LET'S KEEP IT ON TOPIC. >> BOARDS ARE THERE FOR A REASON. >> MR. OTTO THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE YOU WANT TO TALK? >> HAVE A QUESTION. SO THE LAND, FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE ON THIS. I WANTED TO KNOW IF THE IMMORTAL [02:30:03] -- MORATORIUM IS SUCH THAT THE LAND-USE AMENDMENTS PREVENT ( INDISCERNIBLE ) IF IT EXPIRES IN DECEMBER AND AN APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED OUT SOON WOULD DENSITY BE AFFECTED IN THIS AREA? >> FROM PLANNING IT TAKES WHAT, THREE MONTHS MAY BE. ONCE THEY SUBMIT THE APPLICATION IT GETS REVIEWED, PUBLISHED AND THEN IT COMES TO YOU. >> OKAY, SO THEN IF A VOTE APOGEE OR THREE MONTHS LATER, HOW SOON WOULD DENSITY BE AFFECTED IN THAT AREA? >> THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE DEVELOPER AND HOW QUICKLY THEY MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> I AGREE WITH COURTNEY'S COMMENTS ON ADVERTISING GETTING IT HERE. IF THAT ONE CHANGE THEY WOULD HAVE TO START BACK AND GO THROUGH THE PLANNING REVIEW PROCESS. BEFORE HOUSES WERE BUILT, I GUESS, WHERE HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT. >> IT BEGS THE QUESTION, IF WE -- IF WE CAN'T REASONABLY EXPECT DENSITY TO BE AFFECTED UNTIL SIX MONTHS-1 YEAR, -- WOULD WE HAVE TO DO THIS NEXT YEAR I'M WONDERING IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS TO BAKE PLACE WON'T BE COMPLETED UNTIL 2025, AND IF WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT DENSITY DOESN'T THIS COME UP NEXT YEAR? >> THE REASON IS TO MAKE SURE THE NEEDS ARE STILL THERE. THE STATED REASONS WERE TO PROTECT THEIR NEEDS. >> THE ROADS WILL NOT BE DONE UNTIL JANUARY 2025? THAT WAS THE LATEST? >> >> LET'S JUST CLARIFY, THOUGH GIVEN DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, THIS MORATORIUM IS FOR ANY INCREASE DENSITY REQUESTS THIS IS WHAT THIS MORATORIUM IS ABOUT. NOT TO STOP BUILDING, BUT TO BUILD TO THE PLAN. >> [02:35:07] >> THEY ARE ALSO ABLE TO BUILD NOW ON THIS. >> FOR INCREASE JUST CITY -- DENSITY. AND BY THE WAY JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PLAN TO BUILD THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL BUILD A LOT OF HOMES IF WE HAVE A CORRECTION IN THE HOUSING MARKET WHICH WILL ALLOW THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM TO CATCH UP TOO. I THINK WE ARE EXPERIENCING THAT RIGHT NOW. >> I DON'T WANT ANYONE DISAPPOINTED, THIS IS ABOUT RESTRICTING ANYONE FROM MAKING ZONING CHANGES. >> THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO THAT. IF SOMEONE SAYS, HOW COME THE MORATORIUM DID NOT STOP THEM. >> MY QUESTION IS, THERE IS AN ANSWER HERE AS WHO'S REQUESTING THE INCREASE IN DENSITY BUT DOES THAT MEET A NEED? IS THAT WHY IT IS ON THE TABLE? THERE IS OBVIOUS OTHER IMPLICATIONS BUT IS THERE A NEED THAT NEEDS TO BE MAD SO THERE WOULD BE A REQUEST TO INCREASE DENSITY. ARE WE SAYING, TO NOT INCREASE DENSITY IS TO SAY WE DON'T WANT BOOK GROWTH THAT IS COMING. >> SO ADDITIONAL GROWTH IS WHAT WE -- >> AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS UNDER THE MORATORIUM. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. THEY ARE ABLE TO STILL COME. >> I JUST WANT TO AD, IS THERE A NEED FOR INCREASE DENSITY. YES, I CAN REDUCE THE PRICE OF A HOUSE, SO, THAT IS THEIR ANSWER THEY CAN MEET THE NEED OF PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING HERE THE PEOPLE YOU WANT WORKING IN YOUR PRACTICE OR FIRE DEPARTMENT. EVEN THOUGH THESE HOMES ARE APPROVED, WILL THEY BE BUILT. MY CRYSTAL BALL IS FOGGY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INTEREST RATES. WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. >> OUR JOB, OUR MAIN JOB IS THE SAFETY OF OUR CONSTITUENTS. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, AND I'M SURE YOU DO TOO. THIS IS SOMETHING, WHERE MY 6-YEAR-OLD DRIVES DOWN EVERY DAY. AND TONS OF OTHER KIDS. WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS FATALITIES AND YES WE JUST DECREASE THE SPEED LIMIT BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN PEOPLE WILL SLOW DOWN AND NOT PASS AT MIDNIGHT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. THAT IS DEFINITELY, I DON'T WANT [02:40:03] TO HURT ANYONE'S BUSINESS. , BUSINESS OWNER THIS IS WHAT IT IS ABOUT TO ME. WE HAD A CONVERSATION AND I SUPPORTED IT LAST YEAR, AND I BELIEVED IT PAST 3-2. IF WE LIVE TO THE MASTER PLAN THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN WE DON'T NEEDED. THREE OF US WERE NEW, I DID NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE AREA AT THE TIME. I JUST FELT OVERWHELMED AND FLOODED WITH PEOPLE ASKING TO CHANGE THEIR LAND AND I DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE DECIDING WHO COULD MAKE MORE MONEY OVER ANOTHER PERSON. THEY HELD OUT FOR THE SAKE THEY ARE STUCK WHERE THEY COULD HAVE MADE MORE MONEY THIS IS SET FORTH WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. SO, I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER RENNINGER IS SAYING, WE HAVE COME TO SOME STARTLING INFORMATION THAT OUR FIRE ACHIEVED SHARED WITH US, ADDING DEMAND ON THEIR SERVICES, BEFORE THE CIP CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN CAN REALLY CATCH UP TO THAT. THERE IS A NEW FIRE STATION PLANNED. AND THAT IS IN THE 2023 PLAN. AT ANY RATE, THAT IS WHAT I HAVE TO ADD TO THE CONVERSATION. >> I VOTED AGAINST THE MORATORIUM A YEAR AGO AND IT WAS PRIMARILY BECAUSE I DID NOT THINK IT WOULD DO WHAT EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WOULD DO. YOU LOOKING AT PEOPLE TO NOT CHANGE DENSITY -- DENSITY AND NOT BILLED. MAYBE THEY WILL WORK FOR SIX MONTH-1 YEAR. WHEN WE SHUT DOWN THE APPLICATIONS, WHEN YEAR AGO, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME IN THAT WE ARE TRYING TO LOOK AT THAT. >> MOST PEOPLE KNEW IT. >> OR IF THEY DID, CAN ACCEPT THAT. JUST TAKEN OUT. MY POINT BEING, I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH IT AND GO ALONG WITH IT, BUT I NEED TO SEE SOME CONCRETE MOTION IF WERE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. NEXT LINE 2023 AND ESSENTIALLY WHEN IT GOES INTO EFFECT AND WHAT IT SAYS IS, YOU CAN ONLY BUILD THE NUMBER OF HOMES AND ACCEPT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE KEYS THAT CAN ESCAPE AND EVACUATE THE STORM IN 24 HOURS. THEY CALED IT RATE OF GROWTH ORDINANCE. THEY MADE A DETERMINATION, MANY PEOPLE IT COULD BE AND NOW IT IS DUE IN 2,023. SO MANY HOMES THAT COULD ACCEPT SO MANY PEOPLE. I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION TO PUT THE MORATORIUM BUT I WOULD [02:45:07] LIKE TO SEE US DO SOMETHING THAT WILL THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION ONLY F THEY COULD GET AN AGREEMENT TO LOOK INTO SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY DO WHEN EVERYONE ELSE IS HOPING THAT THIS MORATORIUM WOULD DO. >> IS THAT AN AMENDED MOTION? >> IS NOT A MOTION. >> I'M IN AGREEMENT. I DEGNAN PLEADED FOR SOMETHING CONCRETE. SOMETHING WE COULD DO. THIS IS NOT MY FORTE. SO MAY BE THEY CAN COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS. I WAS TOLD THERE WOULD BE AREAS AFFECTED BY THIS BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING. >> LET'S GO FOR IT. I WILL BE RIGHT HERE NEXT TO YOU TO RESEARCH IT. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, THIS HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 72. WE CAN SEE THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES AND EXPLORE IT FURTHER. >> GREAT. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WE USED OUR DECEMBER MEETING LAST YEAR FOR INITIATIVES. WE HAD POSTED NOTES APPEAR AND INITIATIVES WE WANTED TO SEE DONE AND WORKSHOPS ALMOST EVERY MONTH. WE WERE ABLE TO ACHIEVE SOME GOOD THINGS TO SET A FRAMEWORK. I KNOW THE COUNTY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT A STRATEGIC PLAN. I THINK, I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW COMMISSIONERS CARE, IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE TURNING A BLIND EYE BUT IT IS A COMPLICATED MATTER AND SOMETHING THAT HASN'T SAID -- BEEN SAID BUT HER CONCERN IS LANDOWNERS SUING THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS FOR THE USE OF THEIR PRIVATE -- IF WE ARE SEEN AS TARGETING THEM OR NOT ALLOWING THEM TO DO WITH THEIR LAND WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO THERE IS A RISK THERE. AND I HAVE TO MENTION THAT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. DID YOU WANT TO ADD WHAT THEY SAID. >> WE WILL EXTENDED THIS YEAR BUT LOOK FOR OTHER OPTIONS. THAT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE FOR THE CONSTITUENTS IN THAT AREA. >> I THINK THAT IS A SEPARATE REQUESTS. >> EITHER APPROVE IT TONIGH OR IT EXPIRES IN DECEMBER. >> THAT'S MY FIRST ONE. [02:51:00] >> WE WILL DRAW SOMETHING OUT. >> IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SAFETY, DRY STRIKE ALSO I THIS IS ONLY FOR RESIDENTIAL. ANY PROPERTY SO FOR COMMERCIAL CONSUMER COMMERCIAL. I HAD CONSTITUENTS CONTACT ME ARE SAFE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL SO THEY HAVE ACCESSIBILITY TO SHOPPING DUNKIN' DONUTS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE. [11.  Approval of First Amendment to Agreement for Roadway Construction Mobility Fee Credit Agreement between Clay County and Creekview GP, LLC.] >> MOVING ON. WE WILL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 11, OLD BUSINESS. APPROVAL OF FIRST AMENDMENT OF AGREEMENT FOR ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION MOBILITY FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLAY COUNTY AND CREEK VIEW GP LLC. >> THE COUNTY AGREED LITERATURE INTO A MOBILITY FEE AGREEMENT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD AND THE ASSOCIATED STORMWATER POND, IT WAS WITH BRADLEY CREEK HOLDINGS THAT HAS BEEN CHANGED. THE ORIGINAL MOBILITY FEE AGREEMENT REQUIREMENT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE ROAD TO BE DONATED BY THE END OF DECEMBER. THE UNFORTUNATE -- WHEN PART OF THE OF THE ROAD, VERBENA PARKWAY THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS DONATED BY A DIFFERENT DEVELOPER AND THERE WAS A SHIFT IN THE ALIGNMENT. AS A RESULT, THE DEVELOPER DID NOT CONVEY IT TO THE OTHER DEVELOPER SO THERE'S A PORTION OF THE PARKWAY THAT WILL COME AROUND TO SANDRIDGE THAT THEY HAVE TO REALIGN. WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS WRITTEN ASKING A CONNECTION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HE WILL GO AHEAD AND DONATE THE FIRST PORTION WHICH YOU ALREADY APPROVED ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THE VERBENA PARKWAY. THE OTHER SECTION HE HAS TO REALIGN IS ASKING FOR IT TO BE EXTENDED UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. HE HOPED TO HAVE IT BEFORE THEN BUT THAT JUST GIVES THEM TIME TO GET IT REDONE. THAT IS ONE ELEMENT. THE SECOND IS, IN CONNECTION WITH THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM THE PROGRAM NEEDS A POND IN THAT AREA TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL STORMWATER. IT WORKED OUT FACT ALL PONDS WE HAVE WILL BE FOR THE NEW ROAD. WE CAN USE THAT AND THE DEVELOPER CAN USE IT TO COLLECT WATER. IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, THEY WILL PROVIDE FOR PAYMENT THIS IS A CONNECTION, IT REQUIRED WE HAVE A SEPARATE EASEMENT FROM THE DEVELOPER THEY ALREADY SUPPLIED IT, THEY ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTING THE POND. THEY HAVE ALSO GIVEN US A CREDIT BACK FOR THE VALUE OF THE DIRT [02:55:01] THEY WILL BE DIGGING OUT OF THE POND AND USING. EDITS. OF QUESTIONS BUT THE PRICE HAS BEEN VETTED BY THE TEAM AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH UTILIZING THAT POND. >> QUESTIONS WERE COURTNEY? >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. [12.  Resolutions Amending the Non-CIE Portion of the Clay County Capital Improvement Plan and Other Budget Adjustments (R. Kantor)] >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> ITEM NUMBER 12 RESOLUTIONS AMENDING THE NON- -- NON- CIE PORTION OF THE CLAY COUNTY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ANOTHER BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS. >> THIS ITEM IS AN ANNUAL EXERCISE THAT BRIDGES THE FISCAL YEAR AND A TEAM EFFORT OF THE FINANCE TEAM COORDINATING BETWEEN IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. THIS WOULD CARRY INTO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. THERE ARE AND THE FIRST IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. THIS STATUTE MUST BE COMPLETE WITHIN 60 DAYS AND WITHIN THE BUDGET WHICH THEY HAVE DEEMED APPROPRIATE. THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS OF THE CARRYOVER AND THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL. >> QUESTIONS WERE READ TO? >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR -- WE HAVE TO VOTE ON EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING [13.  Consideration of business incentives for Project Gator] AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0. DRIVE SAFELY AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING. ITEM 13 CONSIDERATION OF BUSINESS INCENTIVES FOR PROJECT GATOR. >> YOU HAD TO WAIT LATE TOO. >> SHERIFF DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT FOR US TONIGHT? THANK YOU FOR SAYING. >> TONIGHT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A WHILE. THIS IS ANOTHER STEP GETTING A LITTLE CLOSER. I WANTED TO FOLLOW-UP WITH YOU THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO PROJECT GATOR. JUST AS A TIMEFRAME, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST FOR INFORMATION WAS IN APRIL 2021. THIS MAY TECH A LITTLE LONGER BEFORE EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE, THEY ARE STILL DOING DUE DILIGENCE THIS IS ANOTHER STEP. I WILL SAY THE ORIGINAL PROJECT DID COME FROM TAX USA AND OUR PARTNERSHIP THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO US. IT STARTED AT $150 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT. THEY WERE IDENTIFIED 70-100 JOBS, AND INITIALLY LOOKING FOR A SITE THAT WAS 30-50 ACRES, THAT WAS ALREADY ZONED INDUSTRIAL THAT HAD COMMERCIAL GRADE GAS LINES ADJACENT TO IT. AS THE PROJECT HAS MORE FAN GROWN AND MORPHED AND GROANED, NOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT $225 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT. THAT WILL PROBABLY BE THE MAXIMUM THEY SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT ADDITIONAL PHASES WE EXPECTED NUMBERTWO THE ONLY SIDELINE IS IF IT GOES TO FRUITION, WE ARE PRETTY SURE THIS WILL BE IN THE TOP FIVE FOR THIS YEAR. WE THINK IF THE NUMBERS LARGE ENOUGH IT WILL BREAK UP THERE PRETTY WELL. THEY HAVE INCREASED TO 80 JOBS AND WE ANTICIPATE CASH OUT IN THE LOW ONE HUNDREDS. BY THE TIME IT IS SAID AND DONE THEY ARE LOOKING AT A SITE THAT [03:00:04] IS APPROPRIATELY ZONED AND ADJACENT TO A FOUR-LANE HIGHWAY. IT IS ALREADY IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. THE PROPERTY IS UNDER LETTER OF INTENT, THEY ARE STILL IN NEGOTIATIONS FOR DUE DILIGENCE THIS IS JUST THE NEXT PHASE FOR YOUR SUPPORT. IF IT GOES FORWARD, INITIALLY WE WERE TOLD A Q1 BEGINNING THE CONSTRUCTION I DON'T THINK IT WOULD SURPRISE ME IF IT MOVES FORWARD TO BEING A Q2. 2023 PROJECT. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED, SUBMITTED TO STAFF AND IT HAS BEEN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REBATE. THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO STAFF AND IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE PACKAGE. >> THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT AND THE CLAY AREA. THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. I ASKED THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SUPPORT THIS. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THIS OTHER THAN LETTING PEOPLE KNOW, AS WE GET INCENTIVES TO COUNTRIES -- COMPANIES LIKE THIS TO SETTLE IN CLAY COUNTY IS NOT A FREE RIDE. THEY WILL STILL BE PAYING AND WHEN YOU COUNT, THE MONEY THAT IS A 4 MILLION-DOLLAR FINANCIAL IMPACT ON THE COUNTY. THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING WHAT THEY WILL BE PAYING AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. JUST BECAUSE WE ARE NICE PEOPLE AND WE WANT TO MOVE INDUSTIAL BUSINESSES INTO THE COMMUNITY THEY DON'T JUST MOVE INTO THE COMMUNITY UNLESS THERE IS INCENTIVES. WE ARE NOT THROWING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT AMAZON OR WAYFARER, WE CAN'T JUST COMPETE WITH THAT BUT. >> I WANT TO ADD ONE THING, THERE'S A SUNSET CLAUSE SO,. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY. [14.  Consideration of business expansion incentives for Project Buzz] >> THIS IS A PROJECT THE NEAT THING IS THIS IS AN EXISTING INDUSTRY THAT HAS OUTGROWN AND NEED TO EXPAND ITS FOOTPRINT. IT WILL EXPAND FROM THEY WILL BE EMPLOYING A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER [03:05:04] OF EMPLOYEES, THEY ARE COMMITTING TO 90 EMPLOYEES THEY HAVE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE ARE RETAINING THESE JOBS. IF WE CAN'T EXPAND THEIR FOOTPRINT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOOK ELSEWHERE. HE SAID WE ARE MAXED OUT EVERYWHERE AND WE NEED ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AND CAPACITY. THEY MANUFACTURE HEAVY PRODUCTS, SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN OVERHEAD CRANE SYSTEM, HE'S ACTUALLY LOOKING AT EXTENDING THROUGH THE PROPERTY FOR THE DELIVERY OF RAW MATERIALS WITH OVERHEAD CRANES TO LIFT OFF THE HEAVY METALS AND EQUIPMENT AND USES. TO ME, THIS IS A COOL PROJECTS, WE KIND OF HAD A CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY WITH SOME BOARD MEMBERS, 80% OF THE JOBS COME FROM EXISTING BUSINESSES. AND SUPPORTING COMPANIES IN THE COMMUNITY. WITH THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A PACKAGE AND REVIEWED AND FORWARDED TO THE BOARD. AT THIS POINT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS THEY EXPAND. YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW THEY ARE LOOKING AT A PIECE THAT IS SOUTH OF THE EXPRESSWAY. I DON'T THINK IT WAS IDENTIFIED IT'S STILL UNDER DUE DILIGENCE. >> I'M ASSUMING SOME OF THESE COMPANIES MOVE IN, DOES THAT HAPPEN OFTEN WITH THESE COMPANIES? >> ARE THEY ALREADY EXISTING COMPANIES AND MOVE EMPLOYEES IN BEFORE THEY GET TO THEIR NEW LOCATIONS? >> DEFINITELY. THAT WAS ONE OF HIS KEY THINGS. LOOK, THEY WANT TO BE WITHIN A COUPLE OF MILES WHERE THEY ARE, BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES ARE USED TO THE TIME AND COMPANY. THEY DON'T WANT TO RETRAIN A NEW TEAM. THEY WANT TO TAKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING WELL, RELOCATE TO A LARGER FACILITY AND EXPAND. YOU ARE MAINTAINING THE EXISTING JOBS AND ADDING THE EXISTING JOBS. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BURKE DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT. >> WE HAVE A MUCH CENTISECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSE? IT CARRIES 5-0. [15.  Lien Reduction] >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU FOR STAYING LATE WITH THE SPIRIT. >> ITEM NUMBER 15 LEAN REDUCTION. >> ITEM NUMBER 15. YOU GUYS HAVE THE ENTIRE PACKET WITH THE MEMO ATTACHED. THERE IS ALSO WITHIN YOUR PACKET, WHAT WE NOW CALL THE INFO SHEET THAT HAS THE BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE. ESSENTIALLY THE CASE, IS THAT 2696 GREENWOOD LANE IT HAS BEEN ACTIVE FOR A YEAR. THE LIEN TOTAL WAS $13,000. STAFF COST WAS ( INDISCERNIBLE ) THIS CASE WENT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, AND THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO GO WITH STAFFS COSTS, THAT WAS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE CASE AND GETTING IT CLEANED UP. SHE'S THE GRANDDAUGHTER OF THE GENTLEMAN ON THE PROPERTY. EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN THE PACKET. >> COULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE. YOU WILL WANT TO PULL IT DOWN SO YOU CAN SPEAK INTO IT. >> GOOD EVENING. [03:10:05] >> DO YOU INTEND TO LIVE IN THIS STRUCTURE OR PRINT IT OUT OR SELL IT? >> I'M NOT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. THE OWNER IS ACTUALLY MY GRANDFATHER'S SON. SO, ORIGINALLY, THE REASON THE HOME WAS EVEN MESS WITH, BECAUSE I CAME, HE WAS NOT GOING TO TOUCH IT. HE WAS GOING TO LET IT SIT THERE AND RIDE. I REACHED OUT. I WENT BY THERE ONE DAY AND I SAW SOMETHING POSTED ON THE GARAGE FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT. I REACHED OUT AND DID RESEARCH. I'M 21, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THIS. >> KAYLA, I CAN HELP YOU TOO. LET ME HELP KAYLA A LITTLE BIT. HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED. THE CASE BECAME ACTIVE ON KAYLA'S GRANDFATHER. NOBODY WAS LIVING THERE. AT THE TIME WE FIND THAT OUT HE WAS ALREADY DECEASED. 'S NAME WAS ON THE OWNERSHIP. WE WERE SENDING LETTERS AS WE TYPICALLY DO. WE DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE THE GREEN CARDS NEVER CAME BACK. KAYLA WENT BY AND SHE SHOWED UP AT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARING. SHE IS ALSO TALKING ABOUT CHRISTOPHER, THE SON -- BUT NOT HER FATHER. AND SO THEY STARTED WORKING TOGETHER AND KAYLA CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THAT, SHE WENT THROUGH PROBATE TO GET THE PROPERTY SITUATED. IT IS NOW IN CHRISTOPHER'S NAME WHO LIVES IN SHALIMAR, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS. HAS NO INTENTIONS OF OWNING THE HOUSE. BUT THEY WORK TOGETHER AS A FAMILY. CALEB BEING THE GO TO ON ALL OF THIS. I THINK KAYLA CAN TELL YOU, SHE HAS SPENT TONS OF HER MONEY GETTING CLEANED UP. NOBODY WANTS THE HOME, CODE ENFORCEMENT THEY JUST WANT TO GET THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LEAN SETTLED AND EVERYONE GO TO THEIR OWN HOUSES. THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO HELP KAYLA OUT. >> WHEN I INITIALLY GOT MYSELF INTO THIS I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THIS MUCH. I GOT MYSELF INTO A BIG PICKLE. I DID THIS FOR MY GRANDPARENTS. >> KAYLA, HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE YOU SPENT OF YOUR OWN? >> I AM IN DEBT, THE ATTORNEY HAS HELD THE FEES. BUT I PAID OUT LIKE 20,000 ALTOGETHER. >> SO YOUR UNCLE, OUT OF THE SALE OF THIS REIMBURSE THAT THROUGH THE ESTATE? >> WE DID AGREE, TO SELL IT AND SPLIT THE PROCEEDS. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. BY THE TIME WE HAD TAXES TO BE PAID, EVERYTHING, I REALLY DID NOT MAKE MUCH. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR IT ALL OF. >> MY CONCERN WAS I DID NOT WANT YOU STUCK WITH THE DEBT WITH THE PROPERTY NOT IN YOUR NAME. IT HELPS TO KNOW THERE IS AN AGREEMENT THROUGH THE ATTORNEY. >> IT IS THROUGH AN ATTORNEY? THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOUR UNCLE AND YOU? >> YES. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WERE KAYLA? >> I WAS AT THE HEARING WHEN SHE CAME TO SPEAK BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE. NOT MANY YOUNG PEOPLE YOUR AGE WOULD HAVE STEPPED FORWARD AND TAKEN THAT RESPONSIBILITY SO YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELF THAT YOU BROUGHT IT TO THIS POINT. I WOULD CERTAINLY MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION. >> I FEEL BADLY WITH THAT. >> AND YOUR HARD WORK. >> YOU ARE HELPING THE COUNTY AND THAT IS AMAZING. >> YOUR SO IMPRESSIVE AND AS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOUR GRANDPARENTS AND MAKING THE MOVE TO HONOR THEIR NAME, I AM SO IMPRESSED. TONIGHT IS A SPECIAL NIGHT FOR ME TOO BECAUSE MY GRANDFATHER COULD NOT BE HERE. I KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO LOVE FAMILY SO MUCH THAT YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. AT 21-YEARS-OLD, THAT IS AMAZING. GOOD FOR YOU. >> I ADMIRED MY GRANDPARENTS THEY WERE THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO ME. >> >> IT HAS BEEN A LONG NIGHT. [03:15:08] >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IS DIFFERENT, -- HE MADE THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION. >> WE WILL TAKE A -- FURTHER DISCUSION ON THAT. >> DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION? TEN SHE HAS HAD SO MUCH MONEY OUT SHE ALREADY SAID SHE WON'T GET MUCH AFTER THE SALE. >> GREEK I WOULD BE WILLING TO CHANGE MY MOTION IF I WAS SURE KAYLA WOULD END UP WITH THE MONEY? >> IS THIS MONEY TO PAY THE COUNTY BACK? >> I GOT YOU. WE ARE LOOKING TO WAIVE IT. >> IT IS IN WRITING THAT YOU ARE SPLITTING THIS AFTER THE SALE? >> YES, MA'AM. >> I KNOW, I FELT THAT WAY TOO. I REALLY WANTED HER TO GET THE MONEY. >> WE HAVE A MOTION UNDER SECOND THE FLOOR AND THERE'S NOT A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT COMMISSIONER CELLA WAS SAYING SO, I WILL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. THOSE OPPOSED -- THE MOTION FAILS. WE WILL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE NO COST. >> WAIVE THE COST. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT CARRIES 5-0. TICO WE CAN GIVE YOU IS $1,200 MORE BUT. >> THE REQUEST TO USE PUBLIC [16.  Request to use alternative procedure to notice public hearings for the consideration of potential purchase and sale agreements for the County's purchase of certain identified real properties in connection with the Bonded Transportation Program necessary for stormwater retention facilities and/or ROW] HEARINGS FOR THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY'S PURCHASE OF CERTAIN IDENTIFIED REAL PROPERTY IN CONNECTION WITH THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM NECESSARY FOR STORMWATER DETENTION FACILITIES AND RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> WE ARE HERE ONCE AGAIN AS YOU KNOW WE ARE MOVING RIGHT ALONG WITH THE PROGRAM. >> THIS IS TO APPROVE US MOVING FORWARD USING ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES SO IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT WE NEED TO% ACQUIRE THESE PROPERTIES WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU AND THE ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES WE PROVIDE NOTICE PERIOD. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. [CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS] >> WE HAVE A MOTION UNDER SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0. GO-CART GREEN YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO STUCK WITH US TODAY. ANYTHING? >> I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF UPDATES I WILL BE QUICK. THEY ARE FROM THE COMPTROLLER. >> WE HAVE DONE OUR PLANNING MEETING AND THEY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED WITH ALL OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL SPIRIT AMY WILL START MONTHLY UPDATES HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. SO WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THAT. WE ARE, HE KNEW THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST US WITH THE FINANCIAL REPORT, BY THE END OF THIS AUDIT YEAR. THAT WOULD BE A FIRST FOR CLAY COUNTY. WE ARE STILL SHOOTING -- SEVERAL PEOPLE AT THE COUNTY, ECONOMIC [03:20:15] DEVELOPMENT, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER GATHERED THE INFORMATION. IT IS CALLED A POPULAR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT. HOW DOES THE MONEY COME IN AND GO OUT. WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST TAX BASE. IT COVERS THE CONSTITUTIONAL. COUNTYWIDE REPORT THAT WE ARE HOPING YOU AS COMMISSIONERS AND OTHERS FIND AS A USEFUL TOOL TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU DID THE PREVIOUS YEAR ALSO FROM AN INTERNAL AUDIT PERSPECTIVE WE ARE WORKING ON THE 2023 PLAN WHICH I LIKE TO REFER TO AS A RISK ASSESSMENT WE WILL MEET WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER, AND MEET WITH EACH OF YOU AND BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON WHAT 2023 LOOKS LIKE. THE PLAN PROBABLY WON'T BE ROBUST AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR NEXT YEAR. I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION. LAST FISCAL YEAR, IT WAS A CHALLENGING YEAR FIVE PRODUCTIVE AS IT RELATES TO THE TRANSITION. AND IMPLEMENTING A NEW PACKAGE AND ALL OF THE BUMPS IN THE ROAD THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH, COLLECTIVELY AND PURCHASING AND COUNTY FINANCE. I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME NUMBERS. IF YOU THINK IT IS VALUABLE, WE TRACK IT FROM A WORKFLOW PERSPECTIVE OVERALL WHAT WE ARE DOING AND DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, WHAT DO THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE. IF IT IS VALUABLE TO YOU, FOR THE LAST YEAR, WE STARTED AND COLLECTED IN MARCH, WE HAD A LITTLE OVER 2600 REQUISITIONS ISSUED AND 2400 OF THOSE PAID. ALL OF THOSE REQUISITIONS WE HAD 300 BUDGET TRANSFRS. THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE ARE INTERACTIONS WE HAVE WITH THE COUNTY AND MAKING SURE WE KNOW WHAT THE INTENT IS OR WHERE DO WE NEED MONEY MOVED TO, DEBITS AND CREDITS. WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT IF WE HAD THE RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYONE WORKING TOGETHER OVER THE LAST YEAR TO HAVE SUCH A SUCCESSFUL YEAR. THERE. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS UPCOMING YEAR. [COUNTY MANAGER] WE HAVE AN IMPACT FEE WORKSHOP MONDAY THE 28TH OF NOVEMBER, SECONDLY, RECYCLING CURBSIDE IS BACK ON, ON THE FIFTH OF DECEMBER. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BLUE BAND [03:25:04] MAYBE YOU GOT RID OF IT, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES WE WILL TAKE A REPORT. WE HAD OVER 300 IF NOT 400 REQUESTS, PEOPLE HAVE CALLED INTO GET THOSE. THE DROPOUT FACES WILL PHASE OUT. THE DROP-OFF SITES, MOST OF THOSE ARE AT PARK OR A LIBRARY AND THERE WILL BE PHASED OUT ON THE 18TH. WITH THAT, TO MISS ANYTHING? IN THE FINAL THING, THERE IS MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR, WHAT A GREAT DAY TODAY AS WE HEAD TO THANKSGIVING. IT'S WONDERFUL THAT THANKSGIVING IS IN THE AIR AND I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY THANKSGIVING. [LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION] THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION THAT INCLUDE OUR MINUTES FROM THE TDC MEETING, [REORGANIZATION OF THE BCC] AND SOME BIG TABULATIONS. WE ARE NOW MOVING TO THE REORGANIZATION OF THE BCC. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. >> OKAY, AGAIN FOR THE REORGANIZATION OF THE BBC, LOOKING FOR NOMINATIONS OF CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FROM THE BOARD FLOOR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE BETSY. >> WE DON'T NEED A SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AND Q. >> THE NEXT WILL BE FOR VICE CHAIR. >> I WANT TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER MANAGER. >> ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? >> >> CONGRATULATIONS NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. THERE ARE SOME DUTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT THE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING TO TAKE A LOOK AT REGULAR COMMITTEE MEETING. AND PERHAPS MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE NUMERAL BRING THAT THAT BACK ON THE 13TH OF DECEMBER AND ALSO, JUST TO ADD, WE HAVE HAD REQUESTS FOR MEMBERSHIP ON PARTICULAR BOARDS AND TO RESENT SAM, THE LIST WILL BE WORKING ON THE ATTENDANCE OF THOSE. >> THANK YOU. >> I KNOW YOU -- AMY NEEDS YOUR SIGNATURE. >> UP TO SAY, THEY HAVE SOME GREAT SIGNATURES, HAVE TO UP MY GAME. MIKE YOU HAVE A GOOD ONE TOO. THANK YOU FOR TRUSTING ME, -- I. >> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE TO [PUBLIC COMMENTS] THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT. ANYONE WANTING TO SPEAK? OKAY MR. OTTO. >> YES, MA'AM. JAMES OTTO LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER, I WAS FALSELY ARRESTED FOR A GUN, I WAS FALSELY ARRESTED FOR THREATENING THE COMMISSIONER, THOSE CHARGES WERE DROPPED. I REALLY MISS THESE MEETINGS. YOU KNOW HOW I MAKE THEM ALL THE TIME. THAT'S WHY WAS THERE I WAS FALSELY ARRESTED. THAT IS WHAT GOT ME UPSET TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH IF THERE WILL BE A LAWSUIT OVER THAT ISSUE. IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW WHAT THAT WILL COST THE TAXPAYERS. [03:30:04] I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A COPY OF THE MINUTES FROM TODAY WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE. MY PRAYERS GOES OUT TO THE 15-YEAR-OLD BOY WHOSE FAMOUS BOOK, THE SHERIFF SON WHO'S MISSING FROM CLAY COUNTY. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT MENTIONED TODAY. MRS. BOLLA FOR THE NEW COMMISSION THIS IS A SILENT APPROVAL. WHEN YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING YOU JUST GO LIKE THIS AND THIS IS THE APPROVAL FOR WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. THIS REMINDS ME OF, 0% IN FEDERAL COURT. AGAINST OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. HOW DID THIS COUNTY EMPLOY AN ATTORNEY AND HOW DOES HE STILL HAVE HIS LAW LICENSE AFTER WRITING SUCH A LAW. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT. THE JAIL, I'VE SAID MANY TIMES WE NEED TO MOVE THAT UP OF THE WATERFRONT. LET'S STOP WASTING MONEY TRYING TO RETROFIT OF COURTHOUSE. ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SLAMMED THE EPA. I WONDER IF THEY HAVE RESPONDED BECAUSE YOU AS SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALLOWING THAT TO GO ON. YOU AS OUR COUNTY APPROVED THAT AND HAD THE FIRE CHIEF OUT THERE IN ALL OF THESE PEOPLE OUT THERE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT WHY DON'T WE HAVE SENSORS ON THESE LIGHTS. WE SIT AT THE STOP LIGHTS WHEN THERE IS NO REASON, IT COULD DEFAULT TO A REGULAR SYSTEM. WHY ARE WE SITTING AT STOP LIGHTS WASTING GAS, TIME AND MONEY. >> THANK YOU MR. OTTO. >> A YOU CAN WATCH THE MEETING AND MAKE SURE YOU GET YOUR TIMES). >> LET SOMEONE ELSE, IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK, YOU ARE DONE. THANK YOU. >> WE SHOULD ALL BE HELD TO THE SAME. >> MR. OTTO YOU ARE GOING OVER. >> PLEASE TELL YOUR MOTHER HAPPY THANKSGIVING FROM US. >> LET'S END ON A GOOD NOTE CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME WE LOOK FORWARD I WANT TO SAY UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF CHAIRMAN BRADLEY IN 21 THEY SOLVE THE IMPORTANCE OF CAPPING WELLS SO THEY AGREED TO PICK UP THE CAUSE. IN A TYPICAL YEAR 30 OF THOSE WOULD BE PLUGGED. FROM OCTOBER UNTIL OCTOBER THE NUMBER SEVEN TOP. THE MOST IMPORTANT IS IT EQUATES TO 24.2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY BEING SAVED. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL. >> JUST TO GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE THAT IS FOUR TIMES, THE AMOUNT THAT THE BLACK CREEK PROJECT WILL MOVE OUT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL. PLUGGING THOSE WELLS IS SIGNIFICANT FOR NORTHEAST FLORIDA. THAT IS MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE WE COULD'VE DONE. [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] [03:35:01] >> I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. >> I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY HOW THANKFUL I AM FOR ALL OF YOU HERE. I REALLY MEAN ALL OF YOU. OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SOMEONE WAS TELLING ME TODAY IF YOU ENTER INTO POLITICS YOU SEE WHERE YOU ARE LED TO BELIEVE THAT. I AM REALLY THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SHOW ME, IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL. I AM EXCITED ABOUT WORKING WITH YOU, AND EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING. I CAN'T SAY HOW HUMBLED AND ADMIRING I AM TO BE PART OF THIS I HAVE BEEN SO THIS IS A GREAT BOARD THIS IS A GREAT TIME TO BE PART OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IT HAS BEEN WONDERFUL AND EVERYONE IS SO WELCOMING WE HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR FORD DISTRICT TWO TO TRUST IN MY CANDIDACY TO BE THEIR VOICE. IT'S MORE THAN I CAN EXPRESS. I AM EXCITED TO BE PART OF WHAT WE WILL BE DOING COLLECTIVELY FOR THEIR BENEFIT AND FOR THE COUNTY AS WELL AND THE OTHER DISTRICTS. I REALLY EXCITED. SO THANKFUL FOR WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE. >> THANK YOU. A COUPLE OF ITEMS, JUST TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. WILL WORKING ON A TRANSPORTATION STUDY, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THAT IS. AS COMMISSIONERS WE TOOK A RIDE WITH JTA, TO LOOK AT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, TO LOOK AT THEIR EQUIPMENT, I CAN HONESTLY SAY IT WILL BE FIRST CLASS WHEN WE GET IT ALL DONE. ITEM NUMBER TWO, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, TO ATTEND A LUNCHEON AS WELL AS A PROCLAMATION TO EDUCATE US ON FARM TO TABLE TYPE THINGS. ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED FOR EVERY DOLLAR YOU SPEND IN THE SUPERMARKET ONLY 5 CENTS GOES TO THE FARMER. THE OTHER 95 CENTS GOES TO TRANSPORTATION, MARKETING AND RETAIL. YOU NAME IT BUT ONLY ONE NICKEL OUT OF EVERY DOLLAR GOES TO THE FARMER SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE THANKFUL FOR FARMERS. I GREW UP ON A FARM. PICKING POTATOES, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEING A VACATION TYPE OF THING, THAT WAS WORK FOR ME. BUT ANYWAY, TODAY WE COMPLETED THE ELECTION -- THE ELECTION TOOK PLACE NOVEMBER 8, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF PROCESS THAT GOES INTO COMPLETING THE ELECTION. THE ELECTION WAS CERTIFIED LAST WEEK BUT TODAY, WE FINISHED THE AUDIT OF THE ELECTION PROCESS AND IT WAS FLAWLESS. I THINK THAT IS IT. IT IS DONE. IT IS IN THE CAN. AND IT WAS DONE VERY WELL. THE LAST THING, THANKSGIVING IS COMING UP REALLY HAVE A LOT TO BE THANKFUL FOR AND I CERTAINLY DO. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE DAIS HERE FOR A GREAT YEAR END I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT YEAR AS WELL. THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. I WANT TO EXTEND MY WELCOME TO ALEXANDRA, I'VE KNOWN HER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, GREAT TO SEE SUCH A PROMISING YOUNG PERSON JOIN US. A BUNCH OF OLD GUYS ON THIS END. LOOKING FORWARD TO COMMISSIONER CONDON AND WHERE SHE TAKES [03:40:04] BECAUSE THIS YEAR. THIS WEEK WE HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE THAT ANNOUNCED A COMPANY WILL BE BRINGING A SERIES OF EVENTS HERE TO CLAY COUNTY. THERE WILL BE MONTHLY EVENTS AND FISHING EVENTS THAT DISSIDENT ECO- BOOST FOR THE ECONOMY HERE AND THE TOURISM STAFF DID A GREAT JOB. WE WERE ON ALL THREE MAJOR TV STATIONS AS WE ANNOUNCE IT AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC TELEVISION AND PRINT AND ONLINE COVERAGE. IT HAD ALL OF THE BASIS FOR THAT AS WELL. JUST LOOKING FOR MORE OF THAT TO COME BECAUSE IT WILL BE VERY BIG FOR OUR TOURISM. ADJUSTMENTS HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE. I APPRECIATE THE STAFF. SORRY, I HAD 7:30 P.M. IN THE POOL AND WITH THE WELCOME NOTES WE WERE RIGHT BY THAT. EVERYONE HAVE A GREAT COUPLE OF DAYS OFF, RELAX. DO IT AGAIN ON MONDAY. >> I DON'T HAVE MANY WORDS LEFT, WITH MY VOICE DOING SOMETHING CRAZY TONIGHT. AT ANY RATE I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYONE AT HOME OR EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO TAKE OUT YOUR SMART PHONE, GO TO YOUR APP STORE AND SEARCH FOR THE PLAY CONNECT APP. IT WAS LAUNCHED RIGHT AROUND THE HURRICANE, THE LAST ONE, BUT ANYWAY YOU WILL KNOW IT IS THE RIGHT ONE IF YOU SEE THE LITTLE COUNTY SEAL ON IT. AND DOWNLOAD THAT. ON THAT APP YOU CAN, IT SAYS RIGHT THERE, THE FIRST BAR, YOU CAN GET NOTIFICATIONS, SIGN UP FOR STORM ALERTS, YOU CAN VISIT THE COUNTY WEBSITE, YOU CAN E-MAIL US, THE COMMISSIONERS. YOU CAN SEE THE AGENDAS AND MINUTES IN REAL TIME. THANK YOU MS. CHRISTIE HAZARDS ON HER PHONE. THAT IS A GREAT WAY TO GET CONNECTED. YOU WILL SEE MORE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS ABOUT THAT BUT YOU CAN LAUNCH THINGS, ORDER YOUR RECYCLE BINS FROM CHARLIE AND HIS STAFF. YOU CAN REPORT TO PUBLIC WORKS POTTLE ISSUES. IT IS A WAY TO CONTACT PEOPLE HERE AT THEIR COUNTY. BELIEVE YOU CAN EVEN MAKE RESERVATIONS FOR PAVILION KIND OF THINGS. THEY ARE WORKING ON THAT. IT IS A GROWING APPLICATION JUST ANOTHER TOOL IN OUR TOOLBOX FOR CONTACTING THE COUNTY. WE DO APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU. SO I WE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION WITH THE PUBLIC AND SOMETIMES I KNOW IT IS LONG AND FRUSTRATING AND WE APPRECIATE STAFF STAYING WITH US BUT ALL FIVE OF US AND THAT COUNTY STAFF COMMITTED TO DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR THE OVERALL GOOD OF THE COUNTY. WITH THAT I WOULD SAY HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND IF THERE'S * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.