[00:00:11] >> OKAY, LET'S TAKE OUR SEATS PLEASE. OKAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US THE COMMISSIONERS WILL DO THE INVOCATION. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THIS DATE YOU HAVE GIVEN US FOR THE BLESSINGS, OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES. FOR EACH MIND THAT FEELS THIS ROOM THANK YOU. ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE SETTING OUT TO ACCOMPLISH THEY. STRENGTHEN OUR CONFIDENCE AND SET US FREE IN ORDER TO WORK TOGETHER EFFICIENTLY AND BLESS THIS MEETING TODAY AND THOSE PRESENT AND THOSE WHOSE LIVES IT WILL ENCOUNTER AFTERWARDS. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE EVERYTHING COUNT. AMEN. >> FOR THE VETERAN LED PLEDGE WE HAVE LIEUTENANT ROBERT FILOSA EAR TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. HE SERVED TEN YEARS OF U.S. NAVY AND WAS A HELICOPTER PILOT. ATTACHED TO NAVAL STATION. DURING HIS SERVICE HE CONDUCTED COUNTER PIRACY OPERATIONS OFF OF THE COAST OF SOMALIA, AND A MISSILE IN 2011. THIS WAS THE SAME SHIP THAT RESCUED CAPTAIN RICHARD PHILLIPS IN THE ALABAMA CARGO SHIP THAT WAS HIJACKED 240 MILES SOUTHEAST OF ELY. THAT WAS IN 20092 YEARS EARLIER. HE IS A RESIDENT OF FLEMING ISLAND. HE CURRENTLY VOLUNTEERS AS A FIA A BASKETBALL COACH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE UNDER ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> ARE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS. >> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY. I HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME -- IS NOT TIME IN THE MILITARY. AND YOUR COMMENTS HAVE BEEN APPRECIATED. IT IS VERY RARE THAT I GET TO RETURN THE FAVOR. I'M NOT FROM HERE ORIGINALLY. AND YOU DON'T GET TO CHOOSE WHERE YOU LIVE. WHEN I GOT OUT OF THE NAVY. MY KIDS WERE AGED 1-6 AT THE TIME. I COULD PICK WHERE I WANTED TO AND FOR THAT I THANK YOU FOR CREATING A PLACE WHERE I WANTED TO RAISE MY FAMILY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> OKAY. [CALL TO ORDER] WE WILL CALL THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING TO ORDER FOR AUGUST 9. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL OF [PET ADOPTIONS] THE COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR. AND FIRST WE HAVE PET ADOPTIONS. >> OKAY OUR FIRST DOG TODAY. A SPADE E-MAIL MIXED BREED 3-YEARS-OLD AND 74 POUNDS. NOVA IS A SWEET GIRL LOOKING FOR HER FOREVER. SHE WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE TRAINED KNOWING HER BASIC COMMANDS AND HER DOG FRIENDLY AND CAP FRIENDLY PERSONALITY. YOU CANNOT GO WRONG WITH THIS BIG GIRL. SHE IS THE PERFECT AMOUNT OF ACTIVE AND COUCH POTATO. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. NEXT WE HAVE NINA. SPADE FEMALE MIXED BREED EIGHT WEEKS OLD, WEIGHS 10 POUNDS AND GROWING. DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS. ARE YOU READY FOR A 10-12 YEAR COMMITMENT, THEN COME CHECK OUT NINA AND HER EIGHT SIBLINGS. THESE PUPPIES WILL BE 55 PLUS POUNDS WHEN THEY GROW UP AND THEY WILL NEED A LOT OF TRAINING, BUT WHAT A REWARDING EXPERIENCE IT WILL BE FOR YOU. NINA IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. SINCE NINA STILL A PUPPY SHE WILL REQUIRE SEVERAL MORE VACCINES BEFORE FULLY VACCINATED. NEXT WE HAVE OUR NEXT DOG WHICH I FOUND OUT HER NAME MEANS BUTTERFLY. SHE IS A SPADE FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR. ABOUT A YEAR END A HALF OLD. [00:05:03] A SHY GIRL THAT LIKES AFFECTION AND A QUIET PLACE TO CALL HER OWN. SHE TAKES TIME TO GET COMFORTABLE WITH HER SURROUNDINGS SO SHE IS LOOKING FOR A HOME WHERE SHE WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT READJUSTING. SHE IS UP TO DATE ARE AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. LASTLY WE HAVE A SPADE FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR, 2-YEARS-OLD. KAYLA IS LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT AS A BARN CAT. ALL SHE REQUESTS AND RETURN IS A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE. BARN CATS ARE GREAT TO HAVE AROUND BECAUSE THEY KEEP UNWANTED PESTS AWAY. OFTENTIMES THEY BECOME VERY AFFECTIONATE WITH THEIR FAMILIES. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING PLEASE E-MAIL US AT CLAY COUNTY ADOPTED A CLAY COUNTY CUP.COM OR CALL US AT 904-269-6342. CLAY COUNTY SERVICES OFFERS A RABIES ACT POLITICAL CLINIC EVERY THURSDAY. TWO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT E-MAILS AT CLAY COUNTY GUM.COM. AND LASTLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN OUR KITCHEN CREW WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTER'S. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT US ECKLEY COUNTY FOSS [SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION] DIRECTLY COUNTY CUP.COM. AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PET ADOPTIONS. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION. PLEASE LET'S MOVE TO THE FRONT AGAIN. I GUESS WE COULD DO THAT. >> HELLO, THERE WE GO. THIS IS A SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION. TEN MEMBERS RECENTLY COMPLETED BUT NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES IN HIGH PERFORMANCE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM. THIS 12 WEEK ONLINE PROGRAM IS MODERATED BY INDUSTRY EXECUTIVES AND LEADERS AND PROVIDES TRAINING AND THE BEST PRACTICES OF LEADERSHIP, ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, CHANGE MANAGEMENT, NEGOTIATION AND COLLABORATION, EFECTIVE BUSINESS COMMUNICATIONS AND HOW TO DELIVER INCREASED VALUE FROM HIGH PERFORMANCE TO COUNTY MANAGEMENT. AND THE GRADUATES ARE HERE AND I WILL TURN THIS OVER TO OUR COUNTY MANAGER AT THIS POINT. >> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN AND GOOD THIS IS NOT AN EASY 12 WEEK COURSE IT IS BASED UPON COLIN POWELL, AND IN LIFE AND LEADERSHIP, IT WORKED FOR ME. REALLY GREAT COURSE. THE TEN INDIVIDUALS THAT WENT THROUGH THEY INTERACTED WITH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND TO COMPLETE THE COURSE. WHAT WE HAVE ARE SOME CERTIFICATES AND SOME COINS AND THEY WILL EACH RECEIVE A BOOK. THE END. I WILL PASS THE MIC OVER TO OUR CHEAP AND HE WILL READ OUT THE NAMES. AS WE CALL YOUR NAME PLEASE COME FORWARD TO RECEIVE YOUR AWARD AND CERTIFICATE. >> OKAY, I HAVE A ROLLCALL. SO THE PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF TEXT ME A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THEY GOT HERE. THEY ARE RUNNING BEHIND BECAUSE THEY HAD A PROBLEM BUT I WILL LIST THEIR NAMES ANYWAY. BRANDON, ESTHER AND PEYTON. BUT FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT KELLY,. FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PATRICK. AND ROBIN. FROM THE GRANTS DEPARTMENT MEGHAN MOSLEY. FROM PARKS AND RECREATION JUSTIN PIERCE. FROM FACILITIES GENE PRICE. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE. AND FROM ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. >> GOOD JOB. >> DON'T BE SHY COME AROUND THIS WAY. >> ACCOUNTING MANAGER, I JUST [00:10:54] WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN I SAW THE BOOK BY COLIN POWELL I THOUGHT THAT REALLY FITS THIS GUY. ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU GUYS. I KNOW IT IS A LOT OF WORK AND THERE IS A LOT MORE WORKING FOR THE COUNTY THAN MEETS THE EYE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE IS BRING EVERYONE UP TO THE NEXT NOTCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> AND ALTHOUGH I DID NOT READ THE BOOK, I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK FOR GENERAL POWELL ON THE JOINT STAFF IN WASHINGTON D.C. HE IS THE EPITOME OF LEADERSHIP, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] A GREAT GUY. I CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT THEY LEARN THERE. >> OKAY. >> OKAY NEXT UP IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETINGS OF JULY 26. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF ISSUES BOOK KRYSTYNA LACK WORK THEM OUT AND THEY ARE ALL CORRECT. AS WELL AS THE FINANC AND AUDIT MEETING FROM AUGUST 2 AND THE STANDING COMMITTEE MEETING FROM AUGUST 2. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR [PUBLIC COMMENTS] INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIDE. IT CARRIES 5-0. PUBLIC COMMENT HIS NECK. WE WILL LOOK AT PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PAT LEE, YOU ARE UP FIRST. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONS I AM PAT LEE. I LIVE ON FLEMING ISLAND FOR THE LAST 34 YEARS. BECAUSE THIS COMMISSION DOES NOT THINK OUR ISSUE AT THE AIRPORT IS ENOUGH TO BE AN AGENDA ITEM, WE ARE HERE TO REGULATE 3 MINUTES OF SPEECHES WITH NO COMMENT. TODAY I WAS GOING TO USE THOSE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT JIMMY'S REPORT IN 1952 FOR PRESIDENTIAL TRUMANN WHERE THEY COINED THE PHRASE COMMUNITY ENCROACHMENT. CONSIDERING THE HAZARDS OF RESIDENTIAL LIVING ON THE END OF THE RUNWAY. THEN I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCE, ENGINEERING AND MEDICINE'S ANNUAL REPORT TO CONGRESS ADDRESSING THE STATE OF AVIATION IN OUR COUNTRY AND HOW IN THE 2019 REPORT, A ROW THAT THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR AIRPORT CLOSURES WAS WHEN DEVELOPERS BROUGHT UP CHEAP LAND AROUND THE AIRPORT'S IMPRESSION OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO REZONE THE LAND TO ALLOW COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. SINCE THE YEAR 200-0200 GENERAL AVIATION AIRPORTS HAVE GROW CLOSE BECAUSE OF ENCROACHMENT. BUT I HAVE CHANGED MY APPROACH. WE ARE SPEAKING HERE BECAUSE THE FIVE OF YOU VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO REZONE 96 ACRES AND CHANGE THE LAND USED TO ALLOWED GWB TO BUILD AN RV RESORT. WITH NO REGARD FOR THE 40 MILLION-DOLLAR FLYING COMMUNITY THAT BORDERS THE PROPERTY. I APPLAUD COMMISSIONER RAY AND OTHERS EFFORTS BUT IT APPEARS NOW, ANY ACTION THIS COMMISSION TAKES TO BLOCK RESIDENTIAL TRAILER LIVING AND THE HAZARD ZONE WILL NOT BE RETROACTIVE. GREAT. SPENCER AIRPORT WHICH HAS FIVE AIRPLANES WOULD HAVE AND RBZ. HOLLER AND REYNOLDS AIRPORT WILL HAVE NO PROTECTION. REYNOLDS JUST FILED AN INJUNCTION TO STOP AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OFF OF THE END OF THE RUNWAY. THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. WE CONTINUE TO UP THE POWER TO CORRECT THIS VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION. JWP HAS NOT STARTED CONSTRUCTION AND CLAY COUNTY ISSUES THE BUILDING PERMITS. ASSUMING THEY WILL ANSWER YOUR PHONE CALL BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT ANSWER HOURS, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CALL THEM AND IMPRESS UPON THEM, THE RESIDENTIAL SAFETY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT CLAY COUNTY. REQUESTS OF THEM TO REDESIGN THEIR RV RESORT TO HAVE NO TRAILERS UNDER THE FLIGHT PATH OF AIRCRAFT OR THEIR REAL ESTATE BUSINESS AND CLAY COUNTY MIGHT GET DIFFICULT. INFORMED GWB THAT THE LAND USE CHANGE THAT SENT RV RESORT NOT RV PARK. AND IN CLAY COUNTY RV RESORT MEANS RESORT. TELL THEM IF THEY REFUSED TO REDESIGN, THEY BETTER BE [00:15:01] BUILDING A RESORT TO RIVAL DISNEY WITH AN OLYMPIC POOL AND A LAZY RIVER OR THE PERMIT PROCESS CAN GET AGONIZINGLY SLOW IF AT ALL. CONVINCE THEM THAT IT IS THEIR INTEREST TO COMPLY AND ONLY YOU THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. DON OAKLEY. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS DON. I LIVE IN BLOOMING ISLAND AND OWN PROPERTY AT THE AIRPORT. FORTUNATELY I BELIEVE I WILL NOT BE STANDING HERE AT THE ELECTED APPOINTED OFFICERS UP MY COUNTY AND GOVERNMENT DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE OF REZONING THE ACRES TO BUILD AN RV PARK. THE PROCESS TO NOTIFY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS IS AND WAS EFFECTIVE. >> THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU. >> I'M SORRY, GIVE ME A COUPLE MORE SECONDS. THE PROCESS OF NOTIFYING PROPERTY OWNERS IS AND WAS AN EFFECTIVE AND HAS BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT. I SPOKE AT THE MEETING ON JULY 12 I CONVEYED MY CONCERNS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THOSE LIVING OR VISITING THE RV PARK IT APPEARS UNLIKELY THIS BODY WILL REVERSE IT AND ALLOW THE COUNTY MANAGER IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS OR UNDER HIS -- TO HAVE THIS CHANGED AND MAKE SURE IT IS NOT PLACED UNDER THE TAKEOFF PAT. I WANT TO INFORM THIS BODY THERE IS AN IMPART -- EASEMENT EXISTING OVER THE PROPERTY. THERE ARE MANY LEGAL PRECEDENTS WHERE AN EASEMENT EXISTS THAT PRECLUDE BUILDING TALL STRUCTURES AND ACTING LAWS OR ORDINANCES CONCERNING NOISE OR NUISANCE OR ANY OBJECTION THAT WOULD IMPEDE FLYING OVER THE AREA. WE HAVE BEEN FINE OVER THIS AREA FOR SPENT 40 YEARS WITH NO COMPLAINTS. THERE ARE ALSO PROHIBITIONS OF CONSTRUCTING LANDFILLS, DUMPS, BODIES OF WATER THAT WILL ATTRACT BIRDS BECAUSE BIRDS AND AIRPLANES DO NOT MIX. JUST ASK SLOWLY SULLENBERGER. REMEMBER THE HUDSON. THAT BRINGS ME TO THE ISSUE OF THE CONVERSION OF THE LAKE. AROUND 2,000 THEY HAD A BURROW. IN 2011, THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AND RECEIVED A PERMIT TO CONTINUE DIGGING WITH THE AND RECLAMATION OF THE LAKE. NO ONE IN OUR GOVERNMENT SYSTEM OVER THESE YEARS RAISE CONCERN THE LAKEWOOD PROPOSAL A HAZARD. FOR MANY YEARS IT HAS BEEN A BIG HOLE IN THE GROUND WITH NO WATER. THEY KEPT IT PUMPED OUT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEY DRANK THE PIT AND FILL IT BACK IN AS WOULD BE REQUIRED AND SEMINAL COUNTY, IT IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN IGNORED AND COMPROMISED. MY FINAL CONCERN TODAY IS THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE CONTACTED THE STR MANAGEMENT LEAD AGENT TO LET THEM KNOW IF I WERE REAL CONCERNS OF THE RV PARK THAT IT WILL HAVE ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. THE RV PARK SHOWS 75% OF THE SERVICE WILL BE IMPERVIOUS. THIS WILL PROPOSE A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE WATER DRAINAGE AROUND THE AIRPORT. I HAVE HERE A MAP FROM FEMA THAT SHOWS THE FLOOD AREA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COPY OF IT I WOULD BE GLAD TO GIVE IT TO YOU. ALSO IN THE PERMIT FOR DALE, MAT SAYS THE PROJECT IS NOT INCLUDED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANY IMPERVIOUS STRUCTURES OR ANY FURTHER DETAIL. SO WITH THAT, AND MY THREE SECONDS I ALSO WANT TO ASK THAT WE BE PUT ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. MATT CARR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. I AM A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT. I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS. I RECENTLY BOUGHT A HOUSE HERE AND THE MINIATURE ACRES SUBDIVISION. WE HAVE A FERAL CAP PROBLEM THAT IS -- THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CATCH AND RELEASE PROGRAM. ANIMAL CONTROL IS NOT ALLOWED TO INTERVENE. I WAS TOLD THIS IS AN ISSUE TO BRING HERE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH MR. MANAGER. ALSO MY ORIGINAL COMPLAINT MAY 10, I TURNED IN MY COMPLAINT AS WELL AS PHOTOS OF WHERE THE CAT ISSUE IS ORIGINATING FROM. MANY OF THE CATS ARE DISEASED AND SOME OF THEM CAN'T OPEN THEIR EYES. SOME ARE INJURED. OUR YARDS, THEY ARE DROPPING DEAD BIRDS. A LOT OF US HAD TO TAKE OUR BIRDFEEDERS DOWN. WE ARE DODGING VCS AND DEAD ANIMALS IN OUR YARDS LIKE PEOPLE IN L.A. ARE DODGING NEEDLES AND BROKEN BOTTLES. WE HAVE REACHED OUT MANY TIMES TO MR. MANAGER'S OFFICE AND IT IS NO LONGER RESPONSIVE. [00:20:01] I AM JUST ASKING THAT YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS. IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE CATS, IT IS NOT GOOD, NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE IT IS NOT OUR HOME VALUES WHERE WHEN MR. BOLLA WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE SITE I SAW HIM CHUCKLE AT THE FERAL CAT PROBLEM. I WOULD IMAGINE IF IT WAS IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IF HIS GRANDCHILDREN WERE PLAYING IN A YARD FULL OF FECES AND DEAD ANIMALS, IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE AS FUNNY. SO I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE MINIATURE ACRES COMMUNITY AND I REQUEST THAT WE LOOK AT THE CATCH AND RELEASE PROGRAM TO SEE IF WE CAN REMOVE THE CATS AND PARTNER WITH A LOCAL ANIMAL SHELTER OR SOMETHING. BUT IT IS GROSS. I DID NOT MOVE TO CLAY COUNTY TO PUT UP WITH THIS STUFF. I DON'T THINK IF IT WAS HAPPENING IN ANY OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU WOULD EITHER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. PATRICK K. OKAY, BOB? >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, AND MR. W. I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE USE OF THE OUR PRODUCT FUNDS FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES, WE ARE NOT JUST A HOUSING PROJECT. WE RUN A SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM WE ARE IN OUR 12TH YEAR OF RUNNING IT, AND WE ARE ALSO RUNNING A STUDENT SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM FOR 18-YEAR-OLD UNACCOMPANIED HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH. IT IS WELL DOCUMENTED IN THE LITERATURE, THAT STABLE HOUSING DECREASES HEALTHCARE COSTS. SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS NOT JUST THE USE OF THE COMMUNITY FUNDS, COMMUNITY PROGRAM FUNDS, FOR HOUSING, BUT TO HELP MANY AREAS IN THE COMMUNITY. WE POTENTIALLY WILL BE ABLE TO DECREASE SOME OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH, DEPARTMENT COSTS, WHEN THERE IS LESS VACANCY AND HOMELESSNESS, THERE IS LESS CALL FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO INTERVENE, AND TO PICK UP PEOPLE. SO WE CAN POTENTIALLY DECREASE SOME OF THE COST FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. AND WHEN WE TAKE PEOPLE THROUGH OUR SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM, WE GET THEM TO A HIGHER LEVEL OF INCOME WHICH INCREASES THE SALES TAX REVENUE, WHICH YOU ALL RECEIVE A PORTION OF. SO, THERE ARE MANY AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT WE FEEL WE CAN BENEFIT BY YOUR SUPPORT OF MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES. WE WANT TO BUILD THIS VILLAGE AND CONTINUE THE SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAM AND THE STUDENT SELF-SUFFICIENT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE NOW AND WE WILL BE EXPANDING BY TENFOLD FROM WHICH -- FROM WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER US FOR THE COMMUNITY PROGRAM FUNDS. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, BOB. NEXT FELICIA H. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MR. COMMISSIONER. I'M FELICIA. I AM SURE MY INFORMATION IS ON RECORD SOMEWHERE. BUT I AM HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOMETHING FUN. OCTOBER 1 IS OUR 21ST ANNUAL SOUL FOOD AND MUSIC FESTIVAL. GENERALLY, MY GRANDDAUGHTER IS WITH ME AND HER NAME IS ANSLEY, SHE IS 7-YEARS-OLD, AND SHE IS AN OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON FOR THE SLOW FOOD FEST WHEN I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER CAN ATTEST TO THAT FROM YESTERDAY. BUT SHE IS IN THE CLASSROOM HELPING HER MOM CAP PREPARE FOR TOMORROW. BEFORE I GET TO THE SOUL FOOD FESTIVAL MY HUSBAND ASKED ME TOO PERSONALLY THANK MS. 15 FOR ALL OF HER SUPPORT FOR THE MIDDLEBURG HILLTOP COMMUNITY. THEY WILL BE DOING SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL FOR THE ELDERLY NEXT MONTH. HE WANTED TO MAKE SURE I TOLD YOU THANK YOU. SO THE SOUL FOOD FESTIVAL WILL BE HELD ON SATURDAY OCTOBER 1 AT THE FRANCIS HALL PARK. DECEMBER 21 YEAR END I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE EACH OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT -- HOW MANY OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT BEEN TO THE FESTIVAL, LET ME SEE. SHOW OF HANDS? YOU HAVE. YOU HAVE. [00:25:01] YES, YOU HAVE. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT BEEN, I WANT TO PERSONALLY TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE YOU TO COME. THIS IS ONE OF TWO CULTURAL EVENTS IN CLAY COUNTY THAT I AM AWARE OF. IF THERE ARE OTHERS I AM NOT AWARE OF THEM. I THINK ONE OF THEM IS THE AGUSTA'S SAVAGE FESTIVAL. BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THIS IS AN AMAZING EVENT THAT SUPPORT THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS AND THEM FROM NOT MISTAKEN I THINK I SAW MY CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR AND THE AUDIENCE SO I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK THEM FOR THEIR CONTINUED SUPPORT. BUT I DO WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU (AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME. THANK YOU FOR COMING AND PLEASE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IT. TELL YOUR FRIENDS. TELL YOUR NEIGHBORS. WE WILL HAVE A REALLY GOOD TIME AND I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE YOU COME. YOU KNOW, THE REASON THAT'S WRAPPED ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THIS EVENT IS WE CAN COOK. IF YOU CAN TELL, I LIKE TO EAT. WE COOK VERY GOOD FOOD. I WANT YOU GUYS TO COME OUT AND SAY SPELL CULTURE OF SOUTHERN STYLE COOKING. MY GRANDMOTHER AND GREAT MOTHER AND MOM, THEY WERE ALL GOOD COOKS. BAKERS, I'M NOT THAT BIG CAR, BUT CAN COOK A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST FOOD AT THE SOUL FOOD FESTIVAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND. ALL DIANA HAS. I LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE EACH OF YOU TO COME, OCTOBER 1, PLEASE PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR, WE WILL BE SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. WE HAVE A PARADE THAT LINES UP RIGHT HERE AT THE ADMIN BUILDING. WE WOULD LIKE FOR ALL OF YOU TO BE IN THE PARADE IF YOU WANT. THE THEME IS GET UP, GET DOWN, GET FUNKY AND GET LOOSE. IT IS A COLD THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH BEAR ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO TALK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING? STEPPED RIGHT UP. FILL OUT A CARD MAY BE, BEFORE YOU LEAP YOUR. >> AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE SIR. >> WHERE IS IT? >> I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. >> GREGORY WALSH. HOW ARE YOU DOING. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. I -- >> I APOLOGIZE I DO HAVE A CARD. >> NO ISSUES. IM HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS A COMMUNITY CIVIL PROBLEM THAT HAS BEEN AND STILL OCCURRING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I FIRST CONTACTED COMMISSIONER CONDON WITH MY CONCERNS ABOUT A RESIDENT IN THE AREA THAT WAS USING HIS PROPERTY WITH TOTAL DISREGARD TO CLAY COUNTY'S RESIDENTIAL CODES, AND STATE OF FLORIDA BUILDING CODE SPIRIT I FELT IT WAS TIME TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER CONDON MET ON 12 JULY, 2031 TO ADDRESS MINE AND OTHER RESIDENTIAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE SAID PROPERTY. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PROPERTY AS MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS INCLUDING PAYING LITTLE OR NO TAX ON PROPERTY SINCE AT LEAST 2018. AS BEING VACANT. THE PROPERTY WAS DECLARED VACANT BECAUSE OF UNLIVABLE STRUCTURE AT THAT TIME AND HAS NEVER BEEN REBUILT BUT YET HE IS STILL LIVING THERE. A TEMPORARY POWER POLE WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO SUPPORT A TEMPORARY SHED. WHILE THE PROPERTY WAS BEING INVESTIGATED BY AN INSURANCE COMPANY. THE OWNER HAS AND HAD AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS THAT WOULD FALL IN THE STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION OF ( INDISCERNIBLE ). I DO NOT KNOW IF YOU HAVE A LICENSE FOR THIS BUSINESS. I AM SURE THE RESIDENT IS NOT RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT ZONE FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK. AN APARTMENT WAS CONSTRUCTED ABOVE HIS BUSINESS AND IT DOES NOT MEET BUILDING CODE. IT APPEARS TO ME THAT THE OWNER AS BEEN GAMING THE SYSTEM AND THE SYSTEM HAS BEEN OBLIGING THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAS POSTPONED ACTION ON THIS CASE UNTIL SIX OCTOBER 2022. A MINIMUM OF 15 MONTHS FOR ACTION WAS TRANSFERRED AS A TAXPAYER CLAY COUNTY THIS IS UNSATISFACTORY. WITH CLAY COUNTY BEING ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA, THE PROPERTY SHOULD SUPPORT THE NEEDS OF OUR COUNTY AS FAR AS A GOOD SCHOOL SYSTEM. WHEN THE TAX BASE DETERIORATE BECAUSE OF RESIDENTS THAT ABUSE THE SYSTEM THE ENTIRE COUNTY SUFFERS. I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER CONDON AND CODE ENFORCEMENT THEY HAVE BEEN DILIGENT ON WORKING ON SEEKING A RESOLUTION TO THIS MATTER. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAS NOT ACTED IN A TIMELY MANNER. INSTEAD OF RAISING OUR TAXES THE [00:30:05] PAST TWO TAXES. LENIENCY TO THE VIOLATORS IS CRUELTY TO THE TAXPAYERS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OKAY, ANYONE ELSE TO ADDRESS US TODAY? COMMISSIONER DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? >> IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, MINIATURE ACRES, ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THIS? >> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I MAY, IF WE COULD JUST EAT YOU BEHIND YOUR TO GET YOUR DETAILS WE WILL MAKE SURE -- OKAY. I AM NOT PERSONALLY AWARE OF THE COMPLAINT I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY E-MAILS ON IT. BUT IF YOU COULD MEET ME BEHIND HERE I WILL GET YOUR NAME AND NUMBER, I KINDA GOOGLED WHERE IT IS IS IT OFF OF COLLEGE DRIVE? WE WERE GOOGLING IT, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND I. WE WILL LOOK INTO IT TO SEE WHAT RESOLUTION WE HAVE. I DON'T HAVE HAVE YOU WAIT. IF YOU WANT TO MEET ME. A SECOND PERIOD. >> CAN WE TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT WILL BE THE CAUSE OF ACTION WILL IT BE TO FILE A COMPLAINT? >> ANIMAL SERVICES, ERNEST R WAS PREPARING ANY MELDS ONE AS HE IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE DEALT WITH ERNEST OR NOT? >> LENT US LOOK INTO THE DETAILS I DON'T KNOW THE WHOLE STORY BUT I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. >> OKAY, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. >> AND THEN WE WILL LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT WE WILL DO. >> ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS INPUT? >> DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY MORE TIME. >> WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. [CONSENT AGENDA] WE JUST FINISHED PUBLIC COMMENT. THE NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO PULL OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> SECOND PAIR. >> A MOST NANOSECOND FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0. AND NEXT UP WE WILL HAVE WERE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR ADDRESS US. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DIANE HUTCHINS YOUR TAX COLLECTOR FOR CLAY COUNTY. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME CHANGES WE ARE MAKING. THEY ARE CHANGES IMPACTING THE FORTHCOMING BUDGET. THE FIRST THING WE'RE DOING IS VACATING THE BEAR RUN PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY AT BLANDING. IF YOU WILL THINK ABOUT WHERE THE WINN DIXIE IS, WE WILL BE NEXT DOOR. SO THAT WILL INCREASE OUR SERVICES THERE. WE WILL NOW DO DRIVER'S LICENSE FOR TESTING AND GOING OUT SO WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE HAD THE HELP OF GENE PRICE TO HELP ME WITH USING A COUNTY ARCHITECT FIRM AND THEY PUT OUT A BID AND WE HAD THREE RESPONDENTS, THE BID CAME IN MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR SO THE ECONOMY MUST BE COOLING OFF A LITTLE BIT. GOOD TIMING. WE NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT THAT AS A 2% ESCALATOR. THE BUILDING AS A FUNCTIONING AIR-CONDITIONER BUT IT IS 15-YEARS-OLD SO WE NEGOTIATED IF AND WHEN IT GOES OUT WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THAT EITHER. WE EXPECT TO BE FINISHED WITH THE BUILD OUT SOMEWHERE AROUND THE END OF DECEMBER AND GET MOVED IN. WE ARE EXCITED TO SERVE THE FOLKS IN MIDDLEBURG, KEYSTONE AND OAKLEAF AREA IN A NICER LARGER FACILITY AND OFFER MORE SERVICES. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEFING ON THAT. I AM WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE ON IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER REQUIREMENTS BESIDES ME SENDING A REQUEST TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AND AT THIS POINT I HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THEM, THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING WHICH MAKES ME THINK THEY DON'T NEED ANYTHING. BUT IF THEY DO REQUIRE SOMETHING I WILL LET HOW WE KNOW AND WE WILL WORK TOGETHER ON THAT. I DO WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO HOW WE AND TO GENE, INTERNAL MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT FOR THIS BUILDING ESPECIALLY. THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT THERE TAKING CARE OF US AND WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT AND I WANT THEM TO KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW GOOD THEY ARE. ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE? >> ANYONE. >> THANK YOU, LETTING ME OFF EASY. >> QUICKLY. DO THEY HAVE A DRIVE-THROUGH OR [00:35:02] NO QUICKSAND NO, THE BUILDING WOULD NOT FACILITATE A DRIVE THROUGH. BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT WAS REALLY HARD TO FIND A PLACE TO RENT. THERE WAS NOT A LOT TO PICK FROM. WE ARE REAL HAPPY WITH THE >> MADAME ATTORNEY TO HAVE ANYTHING? >> WE JUST. >> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO THE EXTENT ANYTHING IS NEEDED, PAPER WISE, THAT SHE WILL NEED IT BEFORE THE 15TH SO BEFORE YOUR NEXT BOARD MEETING THAT YOU ARE FINE WITH AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY MANAGER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO PAPERWORK WISE. >> OKAY. DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THAT? RIGHT. >> WE WILL BE INVITING YOU TO [8.  Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (E. Dendor)] THE GRAND OPENING. TAKE CARE. >> OKAY. DISCUSSION UPDATES. NEXT WE WILL HAVE A REPORT FROM THE BOND OF TRANSPORTATION. >> BORING, I GUESS THAT IS A GOOD THING. >> I AM THE BOARD TRANSPORTATION ADMINISTRATOR. I AM HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON THE PROGRAM. IN SHORT, ANOTHER BAR REPORT. THE DESIGNERS CONTINUE WITH THEIR DESIGN AND PERMITTING PROCESS APPROVED BY THE CONTRACTORS ON ALL SEVEN PROJECTS. WITH RESPECT EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT A QUICK UPDATE. PROJECT ONE, THEY COMPLETED THEIR CLEARING EFFORTS ON ALL SITES. THE TEAM WILL HOLD A COMMUNITY OUTREACH MEETING. >> THEY ARE 90% DESIGN. JACOBS DELIVERED THE 90% ON AUGUST 1. AND FOR PROJECT 68 COUNTY ROAD 31560% WERE SUBMITTED ON JULY 15 AND THIS TEAM HELD A SESSION ON AUGUST 2. FOR SEYMOUR GROUP NUMBER ONE, THEY CONTINUE WITH THEIR DESIGN, SPECIFIC TO PROJECT NUMBER THREE WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 209 AND THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS THEIR 90% DESIGN. AND COUNTY ROAD B THEY RECEIVED A 90% DESIGN PACKAGE FROM THE TEAM AND CONSIDER MOVING THIS ROUND ABOUT A LITTLE WEST. AFTER INITIAL REVIEW THE REQUEST APPEARS TO BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL PARTIES AND SHOULD NOT BE A COST CHANGE. OVERALL THEY CONTINUE TO WORK AT MAKE PROGRESS ON THE PROGRAM. THEY CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE CHALLENGES WITH CALLS SCHEDULE ON THE SEYMOUR PROJECTS AS WELL AS THE TEAM WE ARE WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON THE GRANTS. THE RESULT SHOULD BE BACK LATER THIS MONTH. AND OUR FINANCIAL FORECAST IS BEING UPDATED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. AND THEY CONTINUE TO WORK ACROSS THE SPECTRUM OF THE PROGRAM. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. ANY QUESTIONS? YES OR? >> WHAT WAS YOUR REASON FOR MOVING THE ROUNDABOUT. >> CURRENTLY THE WAY IT IS LOCATED IT IS NEAR THE WETLANDS AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR BETTER ACCESS IN AND THROUGH THE PARK AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL AS OPPOSED TO THE NORTH. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> WE STILL HAVE A $130 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT ARE 190 MILLIONS AND ONE AND $30 MILLION WORTH OF BOND. >> THAT IS WHY WE ARE WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO LOOK AT MOBILITY FEE CREDITS AS WELL AS GRANT PROGRAMS, AS WELL AS WE CONTINUE WITH OUR VALUE ENGINEERING AND CONTRACTORS TO BEST DESIGN THE PROJECTS WITH WHAT WE HAVE. BUT IT IS AGAIN, IF YOU THINK EIGHT YEAR PLUS AGO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS OUT, WITH THE ECONOMY AT THAT POINT AND TIME IT WAS GOING TO BE A SURPLUS AND THAT IS NOT THE CASE ANYMORE. WENT TO SEE THE PRICES THE WAY THEY ARE GOING, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN. >> WHAT A DIFFERENCE A DAY MAKES. >> I'M SORRY. THEY SAID THEY CAME IN UNDER BID. [00:40:04] I MEAN, EVENTUALLY, WE ARE HOPING THINGS WILL GO DOWN SO WILL WE RELOOK AT THAT. HOW OFTEN -- >> WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT. THOSE ARE IN OUR ESTIMATES. AND AGAINST THE CONSTRUCTION SHE IS TALKING ABOUT IS RENOVATING AN OFFICE COMPLEX. IT IS THAN RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN AN ASPHALT TYPE PROGRESS. WE ARE KEEPING OUR FINGERS CROSSED. >> IS VAMPIRIC. >> FINGERS CROSS AND FORTUNE-TELLING ISN'T GREAT BUT IT IS REALLY WHAT PRICE WE ARE GETTING FROM OUR VENDORS. WE CONTINUE TO ME AND WE DID HAVE A MEETING TO TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES. BUT EVEN WHEN WE TALK TO THEM, ALL OF THEIR PROJECTIONS ARE HOCKEY STICKS AT THIS POINT. NOT SEEN A HILL IN THOSE PROJECTIONS. AND FOR US UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF OUR CHALLENGES, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SAVE LET PUSH EVERYTHING OUT. WERE LOOKING AT WAYS TO DO THAT. BUT FOR THE BOND FUNDING, IT IS 30 MILLION. I CAN'T PUSH THAT OUT. THAT HAS TO BE SPENT NOW. BUT IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT GRANT FUNDING, AND OTHER FINANCIAL METRICS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SLIDE SOME OF THE WORKOUT OR USE THE BOND FUNDS. >> WHAT IS FDOT DOING, ACTUALLY THEY'RE DOING PROJECTS WE APPROVE 4-6 YEARS AGO. STATE ROAD 121, LENDING BOULEVARD PERPETUAL PROJECTS. ANDERSON AS A CONTRACT ON SEVERAL OF THOSE. ARE THEY JUST? >> I WOULD NOT REALLY WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM BUT IN GENERAL EACH PROJECT IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY. SUMMER BEING PUSHED AROUND AND HORIZON. THEY ARE GETTING RESPONSES BACK FROM THE SUPPLIERS AND THE SIGNIFICANT COSTS INCREASE IN SOME OF THE CONTRACTS ARE TIED TO THE COST INCREASE. EACH ONE IS DIFFERENT. I DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE MAGIC WAND TO SAY WHAT IT IS DOING BUT THEY ARE DEFINITELY DOING A. I TRIED TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, FGOT A REPORT ON WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN. WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEIR COSTS. ALL OF THOSE WITH SPECIFIC FUELS WITH A SPECIFIC ANGER. >> THANK YOU, GOOD LUCK. >> WHAT WE WILL FIND THAT OUT SURE ABOUT THE GRANTS? WE ARE HOPING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS, THAT IT WILL BE SOON. >> WHAT ABOUT THE STUDY -- I'M SORRY. WHAT ABOUT THE STUDY FOR THE ROUNDABOUT, WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING THAT QUICKSAND THEY'RE WORKING ON THE. FOLKS IN THE FIELD ARE PERFORMING THE WORK. THE DATA HAS BEEN PROVIDED BACK. AND THEY ARE WORKING ON BUT. WE DON'T HAVE THE FINALS FOR THEM. WE DON'T HAVE THE DRAWINGS. WE HAVE MET WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE WHERE THE ROUNDABOUT IS AND HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THOSE FOLKS. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT SPECIFICALLY LOOKS. >> THE STUDY HAS NOT COME BACK? >> WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT. >> THANK YOU. WE ARE WORKING ON A ROUNDABOUT STUDY. WORKING ON A PRELIMINARY DESIGN. AND COME UP WITH A LAYOUT THAT WORKS. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS SPACE. BUT IN RELATION TO THE PROPERTY LINES AND THE INTERSECTION FROM TOOL 9B AND THE ROAD, TRYING TO OPTIMIZE A POSITION OF THAT IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORS, WE HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS ON HIS PROPERTY, SOME BARNS AND SOME WELLS WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THAT PICKED UP IN OUR SURVEY AND BASICALLY TAKE THE ROUNDABOUT AND IT MOVE IT AROUND IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE IMPACT TO PEOPLE. >> GREAT. THANK YOU. >> BEFORE YOU LEAVE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ONE ON 315 TOO. >> SAME STUDY? >> NO, 315D IS FOR PROJECT [00:45:08] LETTER 6A. WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY DESIGN BACK 6% AND WE HAD OUR STUDY WITH JACOBS ENGINEERING PRAYER WITH THE SUPERIOR AND WE HAD THE SESSION LAST WEEK. AND THE ELEVATION OF THE ROAD HARD TO PUSH BACK ON THE TEAM WITH THAT. RATHER THAN TAKING A SNAP DESIGN. >> ANYTHING ELSE? [9.  Capital Improvement Plan and American Rescue Plan Updates] >> THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NINE WHICH IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. ON THE COUNTY MANAGER. YOUR PACKET WAS REALIGNED EACH OF YOU HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON A. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH EACH PROJECT INDIVIDUALLY OR JUST A COMMENTS ON IT. >> COMMISSIONERS HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON IT. >> WITH THAT WE ARE OKAY UNLESS SOMEONE HAS AN ISSUE. >> I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE. WE HAVE $4 MILLION THAT IS STILL SATISFY. >> NOW ARP APPEARED. >> AND OF COURSE WE HAVE UPDATED THE PLANT AS WE DISCUSSED IN YOUR PACKET. WE REALIGNED THE PROJECTS, THE RIGHT SIZE SOME OF THEM. AND BASICALLY AS THE COMMISSIONER CELLA SAID THE BOTTOM LINE JEP $4.4 MILLION AFTER WE HAVE DONE REALIGNED AND LOOKED AT THE PROJECTS. IF THERE ARE THINGS YOU WANT TO CHANGE IN EARP? >> COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON EARP A? >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. >> I AM JUST TRYING TO DO THIS BY SOME ORDER. >> YOU ARE GOOD TO GO. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO WORK TOWARDS AND WERE NOT UPDATING OR VOTING ON IT TONIGHT SO I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS, DEALING WITH THE WHOLE COVID-19 EXPERIENCE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, WHAT THE COST FROM CCVA WOULD BE TO BE BRINGING WATER AND SEWER FROM WHERE IT IS LOCATED ON COLLEGE OR EITHER NORTH AND SOUTH AND I'M WAITING TO GET AN ANSWER ON. SO IT GOES BY WHAT MERCY IS PLANNING. THEY HAVE ABOUT $200,000 BILL AND SEE CTA HAS ONE OR 25,000-DOLLAR PROPOSALS CHARGE IF THEY WANT TO HOOK INTO WATER FOR THEIR 5 ACRES ON THEIR SITE. WHAT WOULD THAT BE TO ATTACH TW% OF THOSE. TO RUN FROM ONE INTO THE OTHER. ALL OF THE LOTS BEING SOLD BY HOMEOWNERS WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL THIS BECOMES A COMMERCIAL STRETCH BEAR A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN HELD UP BECAUSE DEVELOPERS DON'T WANT TO COME IN AND PAY THAT. MAYBE THERE'S A WAY WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY WILL REAP THE BENEFITS OF HAVING THE CUSTOMERS OR MAYBE WE CAN RECOUP THE MONEY AS WE GO BEYOND. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS AT THIS TIME I WAS HOPING I WOULD BUT MAYBE OF THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WE% WILL DO THAT. I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD THINK ABOUT THAT. IT IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF A SPECIFIC PROJECT BUT TRYING TO HELP A COUPLE OF PROJECTS AND AT THIS TIME TIME CREATE MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES WHERE THEY CAN BE LOCATED. >> BASICALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE. >> THE NORTH SIDE OF COLLEGE DRIVE. >> YES. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN? >> THANK YOU. >> LET'S GO THROUGH BUSINESS NUMBER TEN. >> INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE [10.  Interlocal Agreement with Clay County School Board for use of Clay County Radio System (D. Hane)] [00:50:07] SCHOOL BOARD TO EXPAND RADIO SERVICES ON THE BUSES I BELIEVE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM THE DIRECTOR. THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP TO OUR DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO. AND COMPLETE WEAKLEY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD FOR USE OF RADIO SYSTEM. OUR LEGAL TEAM DID A WONDERFUL JOB COURTNEY AND KELLY ARE AMAZING, I'M SURE YOU KNOW THAT, BUT EVERY DAY I GET TO SEE IT. WE HAD AN AGREEMENT TO THEM AND WE INFORMED THEM THEY APPROVED THIS AT THEIR BOARD MEETING. >> ANY QUESTIONS. >> THIS AGREEMENT IS $60,000 MAINTENANCE AND $75,000 INFRASTRUCTURE IS THAT THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED. AND IN INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS WE HAVE PROVISIONS AND EACH COMPONENT TO RECOVER OUR COST INCREASES. >> OKAY, I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> A MOTION IN THE SECOND. DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIDE. [11.  Resolution of the Board of County Commissioners of Clay County, Florida declaring and finding a certain geographic area in the City of Green Cove Springs, Florida to be slum or blighted; finding a need for the creation of a community redevelopment agency; delegating the exercise of certain powers to create a community redevelopment agency with the power to prepare and adopt a plan of redevelopment as conferred upon Clay County regarding community redevelopment within the incorporated limits of the City of Green Cove Springs to the City of Green Cove Springs in accordance with Chapter 163, Part III, Florida Statutes; providing for no severability; and providing an effective date.] GARY 5-0. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. >> NUMBER 11. >> I'M SUPPOSED TO CALL TROY UP FOR THIS ONE I THINK. >> HE SHOULD REALLY KNOW BETTER BY NOW. HE SHOULD BE CLOSE AT HAND. >> SO ITEM NUMBER 11 IS THE CRA THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. AT THIS TIME WERE ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF FINDING A NECESSITY FOR THE GREEN COVE SPRINGS. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST STEP IN WHAT IS THREE STEPS THIS WILL ALLOW YOU TO FORM THE CRA OFFICIALLY. AT THAT POINT IN TIME BASED ON AGREEMENT WE WROTE THERE ARE TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY. TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE COUNTY. THEY PAY FOR THE FIFTH PERSON TO MAKE A FIVE PERSON BOARD. THE BOARD WILL THEN COME UP WITH THE PLAN. BRING THAT PLAN BACK TO APPROVAL FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. ONCE THAT IS NOT YOU WILL ENTER INTO A INTERIM LOCAL AGREEMENT. THIS THE FIRST STEP TO START THAT PROCESS. MR. KENNEDY IS HERE. MANY QUESTION SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CITY. WE CAN GO FROM THERE. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS OF SHORT? QUESTION OF THE CITY. >> QUESTION FOR TROY. TWO MEMBERS FROM THE COUNTY, OR ANY SPECIFIED, I DON'T THINK -- ANYONE FROM THE COUNTY CLICKS. >> ANYONE THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY SELECTS. TO PEOPLE THAT THE CITY OF GREEN COLDSPRING SELECTOR AND THOSE FOR WILL SELECT THE FIFTH ONE. I THINK MIKE MAY HAVE SOME INPUT FROM THE CITY SIDE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO BE ONE OF THOSE BY THE WAY. >> MIKE DANIELS, PLANNING DIRECTOR. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. WHEN YOU CREATE A CRA ANY OF THE APPOINTEES, ANY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER COULD BE AN APPOINTEE. IF YOU APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE THEY DO NEED TO EITHER LIVE WITHIN THE BOUNDARY OR HAVE A BUSINESS WITHIN THE BOUNDARY. >> CRA. THEY WOULD NAME THE BOARD IN SUPPORT THEY WOULD NAME THEIR OWN BOARD MEMBERS, ISN'T THAT THE CASE. >> IT'S ONLY THE FIFTH MEMBER. >> THIS MEMBER AS TO LIVE IN THE CRA. >> WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? >> THAT A STATUTORY. >> THAT IT'S A STATUTE. >> WITHIN THE CRA, AGAIN, IF IT IS A COUNTY REFERENCE OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN BE ON THEIR. BUT IF IT IS AN APPOINTED MEMBER THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS OR LIVE WITHIN THE AREA. THAT'S NOT A CITY REQUIREMENT THAT IS A STATUTORY -- >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WILL WORK. WE CAN'T PUT TWO COMMISSIONERS ON BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE? >> >> THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS. >> BUT THEY HAVE THEIR MEETINGS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR MEETINGS ADVERTISED BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING. BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE CRA BOARD IN THIS [00:55:03] CASE WOULD MEET SEPARATELY WITHIN EITHER BODY'S MEETING. >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. >> IF YOU SHE USED TO MAKE IT WHERE WAS ONLY GOING TO BE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS YOU COULD APPOINT TO COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. MIKE'S POINT IS UNDER STATUE IF YOU SAY FOR INSTANCE, COMMISSIONER BURKE OFFERED TO BE ON IT, IF YOU SAM GOING TO HAVE A CITIZEN MEMBER HAS TO BE VESTED IN THE CRA. THEY HAVE TO BE A CITIZEN OR A BUSINESS OWNER AND THE CRA. >> BUT IF WE WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE ENGINEERING STAFF THAT DOES NOT LIVE IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS AS OUR SECOND PERSON. >> OR STAFF, WHAT ABOUT THAT? >> THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CRA. IT IS A SMALL BOUNDARY. >> IT'S STUPID. >> WHAT IS THE BOUNDARY? >> ORANGE AVENUE. >> 17 COME UP AND DOWN THE MIDDLE OF GREEN COLDSPRING SPIRIT. >> IT ALSO INCLUDES BUSINESS OWNERS. >> BUSINESSES CHANGE HANDS. >> I CAN SEE STUFF GOING ON. >> AND THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS IT IS NOT BEEN HIGHLY EFFECTIVE. >> UNDERSTAND. >> I WANTED TO SEE US NOT REPEAT HISTORY. NOTHING AGAINST ANY KEYSTONE HEIGHTS COUNCIL MEMBERS. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS WE ARE IN THE MODE IT IS TIME TO TAKE A VOTE. >> CAN WE CLARIFY? >> I'M NOT SAYING THAT IN THE STATUTE. I'M TRYING TO READ IT REALLY FAST. I JUST NEED TO LOOK AND SEE IF THAT WAS A RESTRICTION. >> IS SAYS YOU CAN HAVE RESTRICTIONS BUT I'VE ONLY MADE IT HALFWAY THROUGH. >> >> CAN WE CONTINUE THIS AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING? >> WINDOWS THE 120 DAYS EXPIRE? >> SEPTEMBER. >> I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO RUSH COURTNEY THROUGH THAT. BUT WE ARE ALMOST AT 5:00 P.M. CAN WE JUST WAIT UNTIL THE 5:00 P.M. TIME CERTAIN'S AND THEN WE CAN REALLY TAKE THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE IS IN FAVOR OF WHO MOVING FORWARD. >> IF WE CAN APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE. >> I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS. IF WE CAN'T HAVE A SECOND. WHAT WE HAVE HEARD AS A COMMISSIONER, WE WANT TO HAVE ONE OF OUR ENGINEERING PEOPLE WHO DOES NOT LIVE IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS THAT'S A NONSTARTER FOR ME. >> I HAVE A REQUEST OF SOMEONE, BUT YEAH, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO KNOW. >> HAVE TO KNOW THAT. >> WE WILL SHOW THIS FOR NOW AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY CAN FIGURE THIS OUT. SO, THAT BRINGS US TO ALMOST [12.  Award of Bid No. 21/22-31, Monument Welcome Signage and Approval of Accompanying Agreement (K. Morgan)] 5:00 P.M. LET'S DO NEW BUSINESS NUMBER 12 WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF A MONUMENT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THEY ARE IN CLAY COUNTY. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. KIMBERLY MORGAN, DIRECTOR OF TOURISM, WE HAVE BID NUMBER 212T WELCOME SIGN IS. WE ARE JUST BRINGING TO YOU THE APPROVAL TOO POST THE NOTICE. FOR MONUMENT AND WELCOME SIGNAGE TO BE PLACED AT OAKLEY PLANTATION PARKWAY AND WELLS ROAD. AND THAT BID WOULD GO TO WEST CENTRAL'S SIGN. IN THE AMOUNT OF 27 THOUSAND. WE ALSO HAVE THE ACCOMPANYING AGREEMENTS. >> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS? >> FIRST OF ALL THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO BIDS AND THE RECOMMENDED AWARDEE. IN FACT IT IS LESS THAN HALF, AND MAYBE I DON'T HAVE IT IN MY BACKUP. [01:00:01] I DID NOT SEE A DESIGN . SO WE HAVE THE DESIGN AS PART OF THE BID. SO WE DID PROVIDE THAT. WE DIDN'T RESEARCH, THE PURCHASING TEAM DID A GREAT JOB LOOKING AND EVALUATING THESE COMPANIES AND CHECKING REFERENCES, DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. EVERYTHING CHECKED OUT. AS FAR AS REFERENCES AND EVEN ASKING THE COMPANY TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE MATERIALS BEING USED. IN ALL CHECKED OUT. >> WE WERE WONDERING WHY WE DID NOT CHALLENGE THAT. >> I WILL HAVE TO CHECK ONLINE. >> OKAY, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US. >> >> QUITE HONESTLY I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN THE DESIGN COME THROUGH AGAIN. >> IT WAS THE SAME WON AND THE BRANDING SIMILAR TO THE ONE IN THE BRANDING GUIDE. >> IT HAD SIMILAR LIGHTING, THE DROP ZONE REQUIREMENTS FOR A SIGN LOCATED IN THE ROADWAY. >> $27,000 IT SHOULD SAY HI MR. AND MRS. CELLA WHEN WE GO BY. IT CAN BE ARRANGED. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS THROUGH FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW. >> NOT QUITE THAT LONG. >> I WAS DOING THIS BEFORE YOU -- >> OKAY. >> IF THE BID INCLUDES SALES TAX AND WE APPROVE IT TONIGHT, WHAT HAPPENS? >> SO THOSE SALES TAX IS ON THE MATERIAL AND THE CONTRACTOR, THEY ARE NOT SALES TAX EXAM. SO WHEN THEY BUY THE MATERIAL THEY HAVE TO PAY THE SALES TAX. THAT IS HOW IT IS ON OUR PROJECTS MUST WE DO A DIRECT PURCHASE PROGRAM. THE COUNTY IS EXEMPT FROM SALES TAX. SO IF WE BOUGHT THE MATERIAL DIRECTLY FROM THEIR SUPPLIER WE WON'T BE CHARGED. >> IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED. >> WE DID THAT WHEN WE PARTNER WITH THEM ON SOME PROJECTS. WHAT IS IN OUR BID PACKAGE IS A DIAGRAM OF THE SIGN. BUT THEY WILL SHOW US THE ACTUAL SIGN BEFORE THEY FULLY MANUFACTURE IT. THE SIGN THAT WE PROVIDED WAS A SKETCH BETWEEN OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND WITH ANOTHER ONE SUPPLIED. WE COULDN'T GO WITH THAT'S BACK BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GO WITH THE OTHER COMPANY FOR BIDDING. WE CAN SHOW YOU THEIR EXACT DESIGN. >> THEY PROVIDE ONE IS PART OF THE BID PACKAGE. >> WE DIDN'T GET EXAMPLES. WE DID GET EXAMPLES OF OTHER SIGNS THEY HAVE BUILT AND IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. THAT WAS PART OF THE REFERENCE CHECK. BUT UNTIL THEY ARE AWARDED IT,. >> WE WOULD SHOW IT TO EACH ONE OF THE COMMISIONERS BEFORE IT GETS BOUGHT. >> IS THAT PART OF THE AGREEMENT? IS IN THE CONTRACT. >> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WILL TAKE A MOTION. [01:05:18] TOURISM FUNDS? >> CORRECT. >> NOT HEARING A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD FOR APPROVAL. I KNOW COMMISSIONER BOLLA HAS THIS PROJECT CLOSE TO HIS HEART. WERE COMING DOWN TO A SHORT TIME SO WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO SEE IT. I DON'T PARTICULARLY AGREE WITH IT, I THINK IT IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR SIGNS BUT HAVING A NICE WELCOME TO VISITORS COMING FROM OUT OF CLAY COUNTY HELPS US WITH OUR BRANDING AND IMAGE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRANGERS TO COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD. >> FOR MY BUSINESS I WAS ASTOUNDED AT WHAT MY SON BECAUSE. I AM SURE IT IS A LOT MORE THAN THAT NOW. AS LONG AS IT COMES BACK TO US. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. >> I VOTED NO, I'M SORRY. >> CARRIES 3-TO. [14.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - First Public Hearing to consider LDC-2022-12. (D. Selig)] >> THAT BRINGS US TO TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT ITEM 14. IT IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 6 BUT WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ITEM. ANYONE WISHING TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 14, PLEASE DO IT NOW. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO GET IT TO CONTINUE? >> ANNEXES AMENDMENT FOR ARTICLE [15.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard. First Public hearing to consider LDC 22-13. Planning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval.(M.Brown)] THREE SECTION THREE -- 33 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW FOR MANUFACTURED DWELLING UNITS AS A USE BY RIGHT IN THE BRANNON FIELD RURAL SUBURBS. >> I AM THE ZONING CHIEF. THE CODE CHANGED 22 -- 13, IT IS A COUNTY INITIATED CHANGE. IT CAME OUT, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT A PREVIOUS WORKSHOP, SO WE ARE BRINGING THIS FORWARD AT THIS POINT. AND AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED TO MANUFACTURE UNITS BY RIGHT IN THE BRANDON FIELD AND ZONING CATEGORY. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T VOTE ON THE MAP, IT IS HARD TO SEE BUT IT IS THE LIGHTLY TAN AREAS, THE AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS RURAL SUBURBS. THESE AREAS PREVIOUS TO THE MASTER PLAN BEING ADOPTED WERE DESIGNATED. BILLS USES DENTAL OUT AT THAT TIME MANUFACTURED UNITS. THERE IS A MIX WITHIN THOSE AREAS TODAY BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE FORMER USES. THERE IS A TOTAL OF 23, 2,020 ACRES BRANDON FIELD THAT ARE ALL SUBURBS. WITH 1200 -- WITH 1230 ACRES BEING WITHIN EXISTING RECORDED SUBDIVISION SPIRIT AS THE CODE HAS PROPOSALS WOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS PROPOSED CHANGE. THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY JUST A LITTLE OVER 1,000 ACRES, RURAL SUBURBS OUTSIDE OF THE EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS, AND ONLY ABOUT 157 [01:10:02] OF THOSE ACRES ARE UNDEVELOPED. THAT IS REALLY WHAT WOULD MOST LIKELY BE IMPACTED BY THIS CHANGE IF IT IS ADOPTED ARE THOSE ACRES UNDEVELOPED. THERE IS A POTENTIAL THAT ANYTHING WITHIN THE 1,000 PLUS ACRES COULD UTILIZE THIS CHANGE IF IT IS ADOPTED. AS -- AS SET FORTH IN THE MASTER PLAN, RURAL SUBURBS ARE LOOKING TO MAINTAIN THE REAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND DEVELOPMENT IS CHARACTERIZED BY LARGE LOTS OF . THAT IS IN THE PLAN TODAY, DEFINING RURAL SUBURBS FOR BRANDON FIELD. SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT AS DEFINED IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED TO INCLUDE MOBILE HOMES, TRAVEL TRAILERS AND THAT INCLUDES MANUFACTURED DWELLING SPIRIT PRESENTLY WITHIN THE COUNTY MANUFACTURED UNITS ARE ALLOWED ARE ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL ESTATES AND AND THE MOBILE HOME DISTRICTS. THIS CHANGE SHOULD BE ADOPTED THIS IS A RURAL SETTING WITH LARGE LOTS THAT IS A MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS. TO TRY TO LIMIT CONFLICT WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS WHY WE ARE REQUESTING TO MAINTAIN THE EXEMPTION OF NOT ALLOWING MANUFACTURED UNITS IN EXISTING SUBDIVISION SPIRIT THOSE HAVE BEN BUILT OUT WITH CONVENTIONAL HOUSES AND THE STAFF BELIEVES THERE WOULD BE A CONFLICT IF THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR DEVELOP LOTS IN A CONVENTIONAL BUILT SUBDIVISION AND MANUFACTURED HOMES WERE TRYING TO BE BROUGHT IN. WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT EXEMPTION. AS YOU RECOGNIZE AND IT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE WORKSHOP. THE INCREASE IN HOUSING COSTS OVER THE PAST AND RECENT PAST, THIS IS AN ALTERNATIVE AND THERE HAS BEEN A STRONG DEMAND. WE HAVE SEEN A STRONG DEMAND WE PEOPLE DESIRING TO DO MORE MANUFACTURED UNITS BECAUSE IT IS MORE COST-EFFECTIVE. THIS IS THE WORDING PROPOSED IN RED. IT WOULD JUST AGAIN ADD THE MANUFACTURED HOMES AND PROHIBIT THEM IN EXISTING RECORDED SUBDIVISION SPIRIT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT -- I FORGOT THE RECOMMENDATION, I APOLOGIZE. AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST READING. SO THERE IS NO ACTION FROM YOU TODAY. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIDN'T VOTE'S 602 RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND STAFF IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF NOW? >> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER? >> YES, JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. THEY ARE UNDER CONTRACT TO REVISE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS OUTSIDE OF THAT. OUTSIDE OF BACK CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION? >> THAT WILL TAKE, PROBABLY ANOTHER YEAR END A HALF. STAFF SEES -- >> I GUESS I WAS GETTING TO THAT. >> IN THEIR MUST BE A REASON. >> WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF REQUESTS TO TRY AND ALLOW MANUFACTURED UNITS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THIS IS ONE AREA WHERE WE THINK IT IS A QUICK AND LOGICAL CHANGE THAT WE CAN TAKE ON EARLY ON AND WILL PROVIDE SOME RELIEF. THESE ARE PRIMARILY RURAL AREAS TODAY. >> AND I GUESS MY FOLLOWING QUESTION. AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE PROVE THIS. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT A DOCUMENT THAT IS BEING CHANGED -- [01:15:04] >> YES. >> I DIDN'T GET THAT. WAS THAT MINIMUM? >> AS DEFINED IN THE MASTER PLAN. THOSE ARE 5 ACRES OR LARGER. SOME WERE SPLIT BEFORE THE PLANT SO THEY ARE SMALLER. BUT THEY ARE PRIMARILY 5 ACRES OR LARGER. >> WHAT IS A -- WHAT DOES IT SELL FOR? >> I HAVE NO IDEA. >> I KNOW THE DOUBLE WIDE MOBILE HOME WE ARE TALKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF $100,000 AT LEAST. WHERE I AM GOING IS HOW CHEAP WILL THIS HOUSING BE. YOU CAN'T BUY 5 ACRES FOR WHAT, 1,000? >> THOUGH ONE EXAMPLE WE WORKED ON IN THE PAST WAS 10,000 ACRES. >> SO WE ARE LOOKING AT 150,000? >> THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, I WOULD SAY TOTAL WITH ALL COSTS, THEY WOULD GET IN FOR 225. >> THAT IS STILL BELOW 350, 400. >> THE BEST BARGAIN WE CAN OFFER I GUESS. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> I JUST APPLAUD THE WORK. >> WE HAVE TO DO A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE CORRECT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS ONE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING IT BACK. WE DO NOT APPROVE IT AT THIS TIME. [16.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider PUD 2022-06. (District 5, Comm Burke) Planning Commission voted 3-3. (B. Carson)] SO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT ONE. >> WE ARE AT ITEM 16. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. APPLICATION CHANGE ZONING. FROM LA2PUD. >> GOOD EVENING. >> TRANSLATE THAT FOR US. >> MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY AND VILLAGE CENTER TO PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS ITEM HAS THREE PARCELS INVOLVED. THEY ARE OWNED BY THESE THREE. THE AGENT IS REPRESENTED. AS I SAID, THREE PARCELS LOCATED THERE. THIS IS IN THE DISTRICT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DATED THE ITEM ON AUGUST 2. THEY VOTED AND IT WAS A SPLIT VOTE. THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE HEARD IT. AND THEY VOTED 5-1 TO APPROVE. THE APPLICATION WOULD REZONE. WE WILL CALL IT 40 ACRES. THERE IS OF COURSE THE MORATORIUM. THIS ACTION IS NOT AFFECTED BECAUSE DENSITY AS NOT ACTUALLY CHANGE. CURRENTLY, THE FUTURE LAND USE PERMITS UP TO 10 ACRES. AND UNDER THE ZONING, THE VILLAGE CENTER PERMITS UP TO 12 UNITS. AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL BONUSES. SO THIS BUD PUT CAP IT AT NINE UNITS. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR MIXED USAGE. AND THE MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE 65% OF THE VILLAGE CENTER AS A HOLD. SO THAT WOULD BE I AM SORRY 47 ACRES 47 AND A HALF THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED. SOME EXISTING. THIS APPLICATION WOULD IMPACT 34 AND A HALF ACRES AND IT COMES IN AT SIX AND A HALF ACRES. SO UNDER THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED. THEY HAVE SURROUNDING ZONING. THE PARCEL HAS THE BUILD CENTER FOR THE MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY. YOU CAN SEE YELLOW TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH AND THE ADDITIONAL VILLAGE CENTER. THE ONLY AREA WHERE IT [01:20:05] DIFFERENCES ON THE EAST SIDE. THAT'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL BUT LOWER DENSITY. THIS IS THE PLAN FOR THE SITE. MAIN ENTRANCE ON RUSSELL ROAD. THIS IS' CENTRAL ENTRY DRIVE. DID YOU HAVE KATE SPIRIT THE DWELLING UNITS ARE THE ORANGE COLORS. THERE'S PARKS AND PONDS. AND THE SECOND ACCESS. THE PINK IS THE COMMERCIAL. THIS COULD BE DEDICATED AS COMMERCIAL. AND THE TO STORE PONDS. THIS IS A LITTLE OVER 5 ACRES. THIS IS A PLAN FOR THE PATH AROUND. SO IF YOU'RE WALKING OR JOGGING YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS AROUND THE POND. AND I THINK THERE IS A SECONDARY ACCESS ON THE ROAD AS WELL. THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL SO THEY CAN GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ON THE SPECIFIC SPIRIT SO WITHOUT THE APPLICATION, MULTISTORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS ARE ALLOWED. ON THAT PORTION. JUST FOR CONTRAST. THE PROPOSED WOULD COMMIT TO THE SITE PLAN. THIS IS A SCALE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE-FAMILY. THIS WOULD REQUIRE THIS BOARDS APPROVAL IF THEY MADE ANY CHANGES AND STAFFS REVIEW THE APPLICATION THEY ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE ITEM. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> DID YOU SPEAK TO THE PARKING FOR THE PARK, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT ONE? >> I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE APPLICANT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THIS PLAN. I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT IS THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE PUBLIC PARKING FOR THAT POND AT WHICH POINT WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE. NOT JUST A FACILITY TO DRAIN. >> THE INTENSITY OF THE MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY IS WHAT AGAIN. >> >> SO THEY HAVE THE SAME DENSITY >> THIS IS SINGLE-FAMILY OR ATTACHED SO TOWNHOMES. >> IS THIS JUST BECAUSE OF A PUD. >> IT IS ITS OWN ANIMAL. THE VILLAGE CENTER ALLOWS MULTI FAMILY SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE IN THAT SENSE. >> BUT THE WHOLE PARCEL. >> RIGHT NOW, PART OF IT IS VILLAGE CENTER. SOAP THEY BUILT TODAY THEY COULD DO THAT BUT IT WOULD BECOME A MULTISTORIED APARTMENT KIND OF A PRODUCT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT IT ALL ON THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND OF COURSE THERE IS A PORTION OF IT THAT DOESN'T ALLOW MULTI FAMILY. IN ORDER TO HAVE MULTI FAMILY, THEY CAN COME IN AND DO IT BUT IT WOULD BE A VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION IN ORDER TO MAKE IT FINANCIALLY VIABLE. >> THEY CANNOT DO THIS SINGLE-STORY CONSTRUCTION WHICH [01:25:07] LOOKS LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING WITHOUT SPREADING OUT FURTHER AND TO DO THAT THEY HAVE TO DO THIS. >> THOSE ASKING FOR CHANGES. >> RIGHT NOW THEY CAN COME IN AND BUILD A FOUR-STORY BUILDING. THEY ARE JUST SPREADING IT OUT. SO WE ARE GOING TO ONE SORRY IT'S JUST TAKING A LARGER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY BUT THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS. >> A FEWER NUMBER. >> I'M SURE THERE ARE FEWER UNITS, THE DENSITY ALLOWS MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING IN AT A MAXIMUM OF NINE BUT THEY CAN GO HIGHER THAN THAT. ARE THEY REQUIRED TO HAVE SPRINKLERS? >> THAT IS A BUILDING COVE QUESTION I DON'T KNOW. >> A. >> IT I'M GOING TO STEP IN FOR ANTHONY. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED BY CODE AS I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT NOW. LOOKING AT THIS LAYOUT IT DOES GIVE ME PAUSE. YOU ARE TAKING A LOT OF UNITS, SINGLE-STORY AND PLACING THEM WITH ACCESS TO UNITS IN A FIRE SITUATION IT WOULD BE A CONCERN. I CERTAINLY WOULD LOOK AT IT AS IT WOULD MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS TO CONSIDER RESIDENTIAL SPRINKLERS AS AN OPTION. THIS ISN'T WITHIN 5 MILES. >> ONE OF MY CONCERNS, IF I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND THE MORE I WOULD CONSIDER IT DIFFERENT THAN AN AREA THAT WAS RURAL. WE DON'T HAVE FIRE PROTECTION TO HANDLE THAT. I ANSWER SOME STRONG CONCERNS WITH THE STAFF AND CERTAINLY IF THIS MOVES FORWARD WE WILL HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS AS IT MOVES INTO THE PROCESS. THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT TO IMPROVE OUR ABILITY TO SERVICE THIS. >> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT FOR THIS AREA. >> I THINK THERE ARE TWO CONSIDERATIONS FOR YOU. YOU HAVE IT WHETHER IT FITS THE MOLES THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME FRANK I THINK THEY ARE SEPARATE AND APART. I WON'T SPEAK TO IT THAT WE CAN'T A SECOND BITE AT THIS. >> THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS SPLIT ON THIS SPIRIT AND THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ALLOCATION OF PROPERTY. WHO WILL ADDRESS THAT PART. >> THAT DID NOT MAKE IT INTO THE POWERPOINT. AND IN CREATING WHAT THE APPLICANT DID. AND WORKING ACROSS THE STORM WATER AREA. MY UNDERSTANDING THEY WILL BE ADDING THE PARKING TO MAKE THAT QUALIFIES THE PARK. VILLAGE CENTER IS REQUIRED TO HAVE 10% OF THE TOTAL. ALLOWINGO [01:30:08] DESIGNATE THIS AS A PARK. THAT WOULD BE HALF OF THE PARCEL. IT IS NOT INCUMBENT ON THEM TO DO SO. ASIDE FROM THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> I DID NOT SEE THE PARKING SPOTS ON THEIR. >> IT HASN'T BEEN ADDED. >> CONVEY CLARIFY THAT. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. >> GOOD EVENING FROM TAYLOR MORRISON. ON MED 392 COCONUT PALM DRIVE IN TAMPA FLORIDA MA CERTIFIED PLANNER AND BUILD TO READ AND I LAND PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNER FOR THE TAMPA AND JACKSONVILLE MARKET. FOR THIS PRESENTATION I WILL INTRODUCE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT WE ARE GOING FOR INTRODUCE OUR PRODUCT, AND TURN IT OVER TO MY TECHNICAL TEAM TO GO THROUGH SOME TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT AND WE CAN ADDRESS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. JUST INTRODUCING MY TEAM. WE HAVE MY TEAM HERE THEY WILL DESIGN THE SUBDIVISION OR THIS PROJECT STEPHEN IS MONTH ZONING AND LAND USE COUNSEL. AND STEPHANIE MONTHS ELLA AND AGAIN THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION WE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. SO QUICK LOOK AT THE SITE. IT IS ABOUT 40 ACRES. CURRENTLY IT IS LARGELY VACANT AND UNUSED. THIS IS TO THE SOUTHEAST SPIRIT THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST. WE ARE LOOKING TO CREATE A TWO-PHASE PROJECT WITH A MIX OF INTEGRATED USES CONSISTENT WITH THE VILLAGE DESIGNATION. THIS WILL BE THE 34 AND A HALF ACRES WE ARE SHOOTING FOR 280 COTTAGE STYLE UNIT SPIRIT ONCE THE DESIGN IS WORKED OUT, BUT A MAXIMUM OF 280 UNIT SPIRIT WE LEFT TO ACCESS ON RUSSELL ROAD. THE OTHER WILL BE FOR COMMERCIAL. THERE WILL ALSO BE ACCESS ON SANDRIDGE ROAD WHICH COULD BE USED FOR BOTH. THE SECOND PHASE WILL BE FIVE AND HALF ACRES OF COMMERCIAL UP TO 75,000 SQUARE FEET OF SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING OF ALL FIVE AND A HALF ACRES ARE OPEN FOR DEVELOPMENT AND HANDLED ON THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION. ALL OF THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT. AS STEPHEN WILL TALK ABOUT, ABOUT THE POND AND PARK FEATURE WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD WE ARE CREATING THAT POCKET PARK ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE PARK. THE WALKWAY WHICH GOES AROUND THE POND IS ALMOST HALF OF A MILE. IT IS FOR .5 MILES OF PAT. THE PARKING, IF YOU LOOK AT PHASE I AND PHASE II PARKING WILL GO RIGHT THERE. WE WILL PUT SEVEN PARKING SPACES SOMEONE NOT PART OF THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY OR NOT GOING TO THE COMMERCIAL PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT CAN PARK THERE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHATEVER BENCHES ARE THERE, TAKE A JOG OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. BUT THAT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD. [01:35:02] THE FOCUS IN AND WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION WILL LOOK LIKE. TAYLOR MORRISON IS THE FIFTH LARGEST HOMEBUILDER IN THE COUNTRY. TO ENTER THIS MARKET, WE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH A GROUP AND A GENTLEMAN NAMED CHRISTOPHER WOOD WAS THEY BUILD HOMES EFFECTIVELY. TAKES THE PROPERTY AND MANAGE THINK UNITS AND THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY DO THAT PRETTY WELL. THE GROUPS HAVE COME TOGETHER. WE HAD ONE GOING ON IN MANATEE COUNTY RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE MANY PARCELS WE ARE INVESTIGATING ALL OVER THE STATE OF FLORIDA BUT THIS WOULD BE OUR SECOND. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THINK OF A DECONSTRUCTED APARTMENT COMPLEX WHERE THE ACTUAL UNITS HAVE BEEN SPREAD OVER THE PARCEL. THINK OF A ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT , OR ONE BEDROOM AND DUPLEXES OR THE STANDALONE. IT IS A DECONSTRUCTED APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE UNITS ARE SPREAD ACROSS THE PARCEL INSTEAD OF BEING LIKE THIS. LOOKING AT THIS GRAPHIC. THE PICTURE WAS NUMBER ONE. ONE OF PROJECT IS LOOKING LIKE. ALL OF THE UNITS HAVE A BACKYARD. THERE IS WALKWAYS, AND BETWEEN THE UNITS, WE TRIED TO MAKE THIS COMMON AREAS GATHERING AREAS WHEREVER POSSIBLE. THIS IS OF OUR PROPOSED AMENITY MORE OF A HANGING OUT FULL. IT HAS A FITNESS CENTER IT HAS BEEN OPEN SPACE FOR YOGA OR OTHER COMMUNITY FUNCTIONS. AND WE HAVE A DOG PARK DEPICTED ON THE SITE PLAN. RESEARCH SHOWS PEOPLE WANT THEIR PETS IN THEIR UNIT. EACH UNIT IS SOURCED WITH AN IN-LINE DOGGY DOOR. BUT WE HAVE AN OVERSIZED DOG PARK AS FOLKS REALLY WANT TO, THAT'S PART OF THEIR RESIDENCE. SOME OF THE THINGS, COMMUNITY SPACES DOG PARKS AND A BUTTERFLY GARDEN TAYLOR MORRISON AS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE. >> FOR THE BUTTERFLY GARDEN. WE DEDICATE A PORTION OF THE ACREAGE TO PUT IN BUTTERFLY GARDENS. THE COMMUNITIES HAVE THOSE. BUT THAT'S ALSO EMPHASIZED IN THESE COMMUNITIES. MY POINT IS, WITH TAYLOR MORRISON COLLABORATING WITH CHRISTOPHER TODD WE HAVE A VISION OF WHAT WERE GOING FOR, THE IMMUNITY FEATURE APPEALING TO PET OWNERS THE LANDSCAPING, WE HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC VISION ON WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND HOW WE WANT TO DO IT. I WILL TURN IT OVER. WE ARE PROPOSING ONE OF THESE UNITS. IT WAS SUGGESTED TO US. MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THE UNIT SPIRIT IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THIS CRAFTSMAN STYLE MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE FOR THIS MARKET. [01:40:03] TAYLOR MORRISON HOMES GIVEN OUR SIZE WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE ON WHAT WE ARE OFFERING. BUT THIS IS LIKELY WHAT WE WILL GO WITH. THIS CARRIES THROUGH TO WHAT THE AMENITY LOOKS LIKE. THE LEASING OFFICE. THIS IS WHAT THE FITNESS CENTER IT LOOKS LIKE AS WELL. >> WHAT ABOUT RESIDENTIAL PARKING. >> WE HAD A MINIMUM WE REQUIRED THE SITES TO HAVE TWO SPACES PER UNIT. TYPICALLY WE EXCEED THAT. TYPICALLY WE ARE TO POINT TO-2.3 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT. >> THIS WOULD BE ON THE STREET BREAKS. >> IT IS ON STREET PARKING. WE ALSO OFFER A GARAGE BUILDING FOUR SPACES AND IN. WE OFFER COMFORT GARAGE PARKING SPACES FOR EACH UNIT. THIS WILL HAVE ABOUT 18 PARKING GARAGES. >> WITH YOUR STREETS? >> YES, THEY ARE INTERNAL TO THE PROJECT. >> HOW WIDE ARE THEY? >> STREET WIDTH IS 24 FEET. STANDARD PARKING 18 FEET ALLOWING FOR THE SIDEWALK OR A CURB STOP HERE PARKING, WE HAVE MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING ESPECIALLY FOR THIS SITE. >> SO STEEP WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT ZONING FOR LITTLE BIT. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M GONNA BUILD ON WHAT WAS PRESENTED. >> SPEED UP THE PRESENTATION. >> I'LL BE BRIEF. BUT THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN. THE ENTIRE SITE IS VILLAGE CENTER. WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ALLOWS TO ORGANIZE A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES. WE LESS THAN THE BASE MAXIMUM. BY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WE ARE ACTUALLY CAPPING OUR DENSITY BELOW THE MAXIMUM. IN FACT, SOMEONE COULD COME IN RIGHT NOW AND DEVELOP A PROPERTY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS BASED ON THAT. WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT. WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS ASPECT. THIS HAS MATURED AS WE BEGAN THE PROCESS WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE CHANGE THE PARK SOMEWHAT. YOU CAN SEE IN MORE DETAIL WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. I WILL USE THIS. THIS WAS RUSSELL ROAD. IT WAS IN THE INITIAL PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT. THIS WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AND THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL WALKWAY. THIS AND OPEN PARKWAY AND A NICE PATHWAY THAT IS OCCURRING ALONG THE ROAD. BUT THE PARKING ELEMENT IS RIGHT HERE. IT IS ALMOST 5 ACRES. THAT IS 12%. IT WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED BUT ASSESSABLE. AS PART OF THE PROCESS, ACCESS ONTO RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES. THIS IS OPERATIONAL. BEFORE ANY OF THE HOMES ARE OCCUPIED. THE TRAFFIC TEAM WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH THE COUNTY REGARDING THE ACCESS. I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL. IF THERE'S ANY DETAILS WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE I SUMMARIZE REDID LOOK AT FIRE [01:45:12] -RELATED QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE RUN OUR ATTORNEYS MODEL THROUGH IT. YOU DON'T HAVE THE MODEL THIS THROUGH IT. WE HAVE MODELED THE WATER SUPPLY INTO THE COMMUNITY. WE MET THE PRESSURE REQUIREMENTS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THE ENGINEERS CAN ADDRESS IT IN MORE DETAIL. BUT JUST QUICKLY, WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND SUITABLE. WE HAVE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM STAFF. WE AGREED TO THE PARKING SPACES IN PHASE WON OF THE PROJECT. WE HAVE THE CONDITION REGARDING THE TURN LANES AND LOOKING FOR A DESIGN THEME. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? >> I KNOW DOCTOR STONE ADD AN ISSUE WITH WATER IN THAT AREA. AND OF COURSE WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH WATER AND I KNOW THAT WILL HELP THEM. ARGUE CONFIDENT THAT WHAT YOU HAVE DESIGNED WILL ACCOMMODATE THAT OR ALLEVIATE THAT. >> WE ARE CONFIDENT AND WE HAVE MODELED THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF STORMWATER. I COULD HAVE ONE OF THE ENGINEERS ADDRESS THAT SPECIFICALLY. >> THEN WENT LPS SOME PEOPLE'S MIND IN OUR AREA. >> MY NAME IS BRANDON. WE DID ANALYZE THE RUNOFF. WE ARE HELPING OUT THE STORM WATER. BY COMING IN THERE. >> CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL. WHAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION? >> THESE ARE PROPOSED TO BE BLOCKED AND. >> WHEN WE DID OUR DILIGENCE ON THIS THEY WERE BLOCKED. >> THE SECOND QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE TARGET RANGE TARGET RENT. >> IT VARIES GREATLY. >> 18-1900. >> IS THAT A ONE-BEDROOM OR A TWO-BEDROOM? >> ONE-BEDROOM WOULD BE? WHAT THE MARKET BEARS. BUT I WOULD SAY OVERALL THE RANGE COULD GO FROM 16-26 DEPENDING ON THE MARKET. >> I THOUGHT HE HAD THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. YOU WILL DETERMINE WHO COMES THERE? >> DOCTOR STONE WILL DETERMINE WHO GOES THERE. >> TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. YOUR SAYING 12 AND THREE BEDROOMS? >> EQUAL -- >> READ TYPICALLY GO FROM 10% AND THEN 60%. THERE WILL BE -- I'M NOT INTO THE SPECIFICS. BUT JUST A ROUGH IDEA. >> 55 ACRES OF THE PARK. THAT IS THE STRIP AROUND THE POND? >> THAT IS THE WHOLE PARCEL. THE WHOLE POND AREA. >> IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC FLOW PETS A NIGHTMARE FOR US ALREADY IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES IN-AND-OUT OF THEIR. DO WE NEED A LIGHT THERE OR A SIGNAL? >> THIS PROCESS DOES NOT REQUIRE A FULL TRAFFIC STUDY. [01:50:15] WE HAVE TWO TRAFFIC PEOPLE HERE. >> CHARLOTTE DAVISON. I LIVE IN ORLANDO FLORIDA. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE HAVE DONE SOME WORK ON REVIEWING WHAT THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ARE. BUT CURRENTLY THE INTERSECTION AT SANDRIDGE AND RUSSELL ROAD, AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH IT IS PRETTY BUSY. AS OF TODAY THERE ARE NEEDS FOR THAT INTERSECTION TO BE MORE THAN WHAT IT IS AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SO THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE IN THE FUTURE. THAT WOULD STILL BE THE CASE. >> HAVE YOU TOUCHED BASE -- WITH AND WITHOUT BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. >> I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE GENTLEMAN OVER HERE SO I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS. BUT I KNOW OUR TEAM HAS DONE SOME COORDINATION. >> I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE AT THAT POINT. SO WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED ONE IS IN-AND-OUT AND THE ONES ON RUSSELL ROAD. >> THE SPACING OF THE DRIVEWAYS WERE ALSO COORDINATED WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL. AND KEEPING IN MIND WHAT IS PLANNED IN THE FUTURE. ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN COORDINATED. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. >> DO WE HAVE AN ANTICIPATION OF HOW MANY VEHICLES MAY BE LOCATED? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY VEHICLES WILL BE HOUSE THERE. >> IF YOU ARE REFERRING TO MANY WILL BE GENERATED OR THOSE STORED -- >> OF COURSE. I DO HAVE AN ESTIMATE AS TO HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS BEING GENERATED. ROUGHLY IT WILL GENERATE 500 TRIPS WHICH IS THE AFTERNOON BETWEEN 4:00 P.M. AND 6:00 P.M. A PORTION OF THAT IS COMING AND GOING GOING OUT. GENERALLY IN THE AFTERNOONS IT -- IT IS 60% THAT COMES IN. FOR. >> THIS NUMBER INCLUDES THE BUILD OUT. >> I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT NUMBER INCLUDED THE COMMERCIAL AND THE BUILD OUT AND 75,000 SQUARE FEET. WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION AS WELL. BUT I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. >> DID YOU USE A SUPERMARKET COMMERCIAL. >> THIS IS ON THE HIGH-END. THIS IS THE WE ARE ON THE HIGHER IN. WHERE JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE HIGHER END. >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE THERE SO IT'S HARD TO COME UP WITH THE SPECIFIC. HOW MANY DO YOU THINK WILL BE THERE. >> FOR THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. I KNOW IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO VEHICLES PER HOME. [01:55:04] BEEN WE ARE LOOKING AND A DOUBLING OF THAT. OBVIOUSLY NOT THAT MANY TRIPS WILL COME AND GO BECAUSE WE DON'T ALL LEAVE THE HOUSE AT THE SAME TIME. >> PARKING SPACE LIES, IF YOU HAVE 560 VEHICLES YOU HAVE 560 PARKING SPACES? >> IT ROUGHLY COMES OUT TO BE THAT. WHAT OUR CURRENT WE HAVE OVER 600 SPACES. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND FURTHERMORE ON THE TURNING LANES THERE SO ON RUSSELL, THEY WILL BE IN PLACE AND APPROVED BY THE COUNTY BEFORE WE REQUEST. >> THIS WILL BE CALLS. >> THAT IS NOT FINALIZED YET. THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THINGS AND TALKING TO OUR ENGINEERS. I THOUGHT THEY WOULD HAVE AROUND ABOUT. IT WOULD BE EITHER OR, CORRECTOR >> I THINK THE QUESTION YOU ASKED, THAT STUDY HAS NOT COME BACK. >> IT COULD STAY LIKE IT IS? >> WE DO HAVE AT THE CURRENT INTERSECTION, BUT AS YOU TRAVEL WEST, AND GET PAST THE INITIAL BASS TRACK IF YOU'RE WEST THERE WOULD BE AROUND ABOUT. BECAUSE THE ROAD WOULD NOT CONTINUE. IF YOU'RE TRAVELING EASTBOUND, TO GET TO THE ROUNDABOUT, THAT ROAD WOULD NOT CONNECT WITH THE EXISTING SANDRIDGE THAT IS THERE NOW. >> OKAY WHAT WILL SAY THE SAME? >> RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY THERE IN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING THE ROUNDABOUT. ASSUMING THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO GO. THIS ON THE FAR WEST IN WILL BE. >> WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THAT CONTINUE FROM COUNTY ROAD 209 UP TO INCLUDE THE ENTRANCE THEY WOULD HAVE BUT IT WOULD NOT CONTINUE MUCH FURTHER THAN THAT POSSIBLY WITH THE ROUNDABOUT. SO YOU COULD GO FURTHER WEST. >> ALL OF THE WAY TO TOOL NINE YOU MEAN? >> YOU WOULD HAVE THE ACCESS INTO THE FURTHERS WEST ACCESS. [02:00:37] >> THE WAY WE DESIGN DEED IF THIS IS VACATED THERE WOULD CLEARLY BE PEDESTRIAN INTEGRATION. YOU KNOW THE ROAD WILL GO BACK. WE WOULD STILL HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE SIDEWALK TO CONNECT. >> WHERE WOULD YOUR ENTRANCE BE IF THE ROAD GOES AWAY. >> LET ME SEE. THE BEST WAY TO LOOK AT IT. THAT DOES NOT PROVIDE THE CONTEXT WE. >> SOMEWHERE IT WILL START HERE? RIGHT AROUND HERE. THIS SECTION OF THE ROAD WOULD NO LONGER BE HERE. IT WOULD BE A CUL-DE-SAC? OTHER VEHICLES CAN COME IN AND GO BACK OUT. THIS SECTION OF THE ROAD WOULD BE HERE. >> WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THE SECOND ENTRANCE IF YOU CAN GET TO IT. WHY WOULD THAT BE CLOSED OFF. >> JUST SAID IT WILL BE CLOSED OFF. SANDRIDGE TO'S FACTUAL NINE IS CLOSED OFF BUT TO ACCOMMODATE THE ENTRANCE THERE WILL BE A CALL TO SET. >> YOU WOULD COME DOWN THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT AND WHAT IS LEFT. >> CAME OVER THERE? >> I'M SAYING WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS SECOND ENTRANCE IF YOU STILL HAVE TO GO OUT TO GET TO THAT. WHY DO THEY HAVE TO GO THAT WAY? >> I DIDN'T THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TURN THERE. >> YOU WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN. >> THE PEOPLE WILL STILL HAVE TO GO AROUND THE TOOL NINE. >> I THINK THAT'S PREMATURE. >> THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE NOT TO BE DECIDED. IT WILL BE DECIDED THROUGH THE PROCESS -- >> BUT IT DOES AFFECT TRAFFIC. >> BUT NOT FROM ANY ZONINGS STANDPOINT. THE ISSUE HERE, THE BOARD HAS NOT DECIDED ON THE REALIGNMENT. IS VERY PREMATURE BECAUSE YOU AS THE BOARD HAVE NOT HAVE THE STUDY FINISHED AND THEY MAY GO STRAIGHT. >> IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION NOW. >> THIS IS A ZONING APPROVAL THIS STUFF HAPPENS DURING PLANNING REVIEW. AND WHEN THINGS GO THROUGH PLANNING REVIEW EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE. THE FIRE DISCUSSION. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING REVIEW OF THE FIRE TEAM SIGNS OF. IT WON'T GET THROUGH IF AND THEN [02:05:01] NELSON AND THEIR TEAMS DON'T SIGN OFF ON PRINTS DICTATION. IT WON'T GO THROUGH PLAN REVIEW IF IT NEEDS SPRINKLERS THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. ALL OF THAT STUFF IS DECIDED DURING PLANNING REVIEW. THIS IS ABOUT ZONING. >> PLANNING REVIEW WILL HAVE ALL OF THIS. >> >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT. >> I WILL YOU DEAL WITH GARBAGE? >> THERE ARE DUMPSTERS. DANCE OF THE GARBAGE TRUCK GOES TO THE DUMPSTER AND THEN DOESN'T HAVE TO GO DOWN THE STREET. >> NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR ANYBODY. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE ONE CARD FROM APRIL STONE. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE DONE MY BEST TO EMBODY THE SPIRIT OF THE VILLAGE CENTER. AND THE RESIDENTIAL INTEGRATED INTO ONE. I KNOW THIS WAS THE COUNTY'S VISION AND I HAVE BEEN HANDS-ON AS MY BROKER CAN ATTEST WHICH TRYING TO FULFILL YOUR VISION. I WILL BE MAINTAINING THE CORNER AND HOPES THAT RETAIL WILL BE INTERESTED IN THE FUTURE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? >> THANK YOU. AND TAYLOR MORRISON WILL BE DEVELOPING THE COMMERCIAL PAD FOR US. BUT I WILL BE RETAINING THAT IN HOPES THERE'S RETAILER INTEREST IN THE FUTURE. >> THE NEXT STEP. >> I'M NOT A SPECIALIST I JUST HAPPENED TO BE A FRUSTRATED RESIDENT ON TOOL 9B. I MAY RETIRE CRITICAL CARE NURSE TRAFFIC, WHEN THEY PUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT UP THERE AND SANDRIDGE CREATED MORE PROBLEMS THAN IT IS WORTH. SO IM NOT EXCITED ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES. FROM SOMEONE FROM ORLANDO OR AND DEVELOPER FROM TAMPA WE ARE HERE. WE GET THE IMPACT AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT WILL BE GENERATED AND THE STUDIES THAT DON'T NECESSARILY TAKE INTO FACTORS HERE WE ARE THE SOLUTION. IT WILL STILL AFFECT US GETTING OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SECOND OF ALL, ON A FIXED INCOME, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT FEE. I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WAS TOLD THAT DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED, IF YOU HAVE AN IMPACT FEE, WHICH WILL BE CAP DECIDE BUT I ALSO FOUND OUT THAT ULTIMATELY THAT MONEY WILL GO BACK TO THEM AND IT WILL BE WE THE TAXPAYERS WHO WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. SO THAT IS A BIG CONCERN I HAVE. THE SCHOOLS I KNOW, WE ARE READY WITHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAVING ISSUES WITH SCHOOL NOT JUST FIRE BUT SCHOOL WHICH WE TAXPAYERS WILL AND UP PAYING FOR. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE INCOME ALL OF THAT WILL GO INTO THEIR POCKETS. [02:10:14] THIS WILL ALL INCREASE THE TAX SPACE. I'M JUST CONCERNED ALL OF THE DECISIONS WILL COME OUT OF MY POCKET. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT UP MATT. >> MATT H. I THINK I SPOKE ON THIS ABOUT FIVE TIMES NOW IN DIFFERENT PHASES. I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY TOUCH BASE. I AM THE ONE NOVO FROM THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON THIS PROJECT. AND OF COURSE I SEE ONE OF THE OTHERS THAT VOTED YES. THIS IS THE PUD THAT BYPASSES CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE VILLAGE CENTER ZONING. YOU KNOW AS FAR AS THE PARKS AND SUCH. I FORGET WHO TOUCHED ON IT. THE PARK IS A THREE-POINT FIVE-ACRE STORM WATER POND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE BY LAW TO HOLD THEIR WATER THAT WOULD BE RUNOFF. SO TO PUT A PATH AROUND IT AND CALL THAT FOUR-POINT 8-ACRE PARK, IT IS PRETTY INSULTING TO ME QUITE HONESTLY. I AM THE ONE ON THE COMMITTEE, I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK OUT FOR THE CITIZENS. WHEN THIS CAME TO US THE PROJECTED RENT WAS ONE THING. HE JUST TOLD YOU IT WAS $1,900 PER UNIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. WILL IT BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BACK COMMISSIONER CONDON AND RENNINGER SPOKE ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW. MY QUESTION TOO IS THE FACT THAT , IN THE WHOLE VILLAGE CENTER THERE SHOULD BE 18.75 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL. SHE IS DOING 5 ACRES OF HER PART TO BE DETERMINED IN THE FUTURE. SO WHEN WILL THAT RETAIL COMMERCIAL COME TO ACTUALLY BENEFIT THE PEOPLE LIVE HERE, YOU KNOW WHEN THAT HAPPENS. WE WILL HAVE THE TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE BUT STILL NO RETAIL. WE JUST SAW WITH THIS WHOLE DEBACLE WITH ROADS GOING HERE AND WHERE IS THIS CUL-DE-SAC GOING. YOU CAN SEE WHY I AM GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH HIS OWN PROJECT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WILL BE HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT ALREADY LIVES HERE. THAT IS MY ISSUE. PRETTY MUCH WE WILL BE MISSING 13.7 ACRES OF SHOPPING BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ROAD IS GOING. WE DON'T KNOW A LOT. BUT ANYWAY. I AM STILL OPPOSED TO IT. I APPRECIATE THAT THEY TRIED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING YOU BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> CAN WE ADDRESS THE TAX AND IMPACT THE. WHO CAN ADDRESS THAT? >> THE INDIVIDUAL RENTERS DON'T PAY PROPERTY TAXES BUT THE PROPERTY OWNER NOW HAS A VERY VIABLE APARTMENT PROJECT THAT WILL PAY TAXES. THE RESIDENTS WILL BE PAYING SALES TAX AND A GAS TAX. ALL OF THOSE TAXES. >> THEY WILL PAY THE TAXES? >> AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WILL ASSESS. >> DOES THAT GO BACK TO TAMPA. >> AND THE IMPACT FEE DOES NOT GO BACK TO THE DEVELOPER. THEY PAID THE COUNTY. THAT IS THE CHECK THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY. UNLESS THERE ARE CHECKS. [02:15:04] BUT THAT COMES DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE TO PAY THAT PRIOR TO GETTING FINAL POWER TURNED ON. AND IT DOES NOT GO BACK TO ANYONE. IT HAS SPECIFIC USE FOR SPECIFIC ROADWAY. CANCEL MOBILITY FEE. >> YES, THAT IS WHAT IT IS CALLED TODAY. >> WERE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE IMPACT THE STUDY THAT WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL WHEN WE GET THAT DONE. >> WHERE ELSE CAN COMMERCIAL BE QUICKSAND I DON'T KNOW. THE SOUTHSIDE? >> ALL OF THAT. THE SOUTHSIDE AND VILLAGE CENTER CAN ALL POSSIBLY BE COMMERCIAL. ACROSS FROM. >> THE AREA OWNED BY DR HORTON? >> YES. >> IS THIS A RACE TO SEE WHO GETS TO BUILD THE COMMERCIAL AND WHO GETS TO BUILD THE RESIDENTIAL? >> IT IS FIRST COME FIRST SERVE. IT WILL COME CLOSE TO MAXING OUT THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION. SO BY DEFAULT IT WILL HAVE TO BE MOSTLY COMMERCIAL. >> THIS WILL BE ALL RENTAL. THAT GIVES ME HEARTBURN TOO. BUT I GUESS THAT IS THEIR DECISION. ANYONE ELSE? >> IS THERE A MOTION? >> NO, WE'RE JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION. >> I AM INTRIGUED BY THE IDEA OF THE COTTAGE HOMES I THINK IT IS PRETTY. I THINK IT MATCHES WITH A RURAL FEEL. ON UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE FIRE AND PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT. IS NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO PUT ONE THERE IT IS JUST MONEY. ULTIMATELY IT COMES DOWN TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. WE DO HAVE PLANS TO MOVE STATION 15. WE HAVE PLANS TO MOVE SOME OF THE OTHER ONE SO WE DO TEND TO DO IT. THAT BRINGS ME TOO WHERE I AM TODAY. THE REASON I SUPPORTED THE MORATORIUM IS TO TAKE A 12 MONTH BRENT TO LET THE INFRASTRUCTURE CATCH UP. I FEEL LIKE I DON'T OBJECT TO WHAT YOU HAVE PRESENTED I THINK IT IS ATTRACTIVE BUT I THINK IT IS TOO EARLY. WE SAID WE WOULD DO THE 12 MONTH A MORATORIUM TO CATCH UP SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE COULD CATCH UP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2005 OR 2006 BEFORE THIS COMMISSION EXISTED. I HAVE TO STAY WITH WHAT I SAID AND WE ARE NOT AT THE 12 MONTH MARK AND I THINK THE CONVERSATION DOWN THE ROAD KIND OF DEALS WITH THAT. I UNDERSTAND WE ARE ONLY DEALING WITH LAND USE AND ZONING TODAY. UNDERSTAND THIS IS LESS DENSITY AND A PUD THEN IN THE MASTER PLAN AND VILLAGE CENTER, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE READY. THAT IS JUST MY FEELING. >> OKAY COMMISSIONER BURKE DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE NO CHANGE. BUT WHAT WE ARE MISSING IS, SOMEONE COULD COME TOMORROW AND BUILD A THREE-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME TO US. I AM CHOMPING AT THE BIT, THEY WILL HAVE APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA, IT WILL HAPPEN. WE HAVE A ONE-STORY PUD OR A THREE-STORY, BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING. IT WILL HAPPEN. >> IF I COULD ADD A COMMENT THE MORATORIUM REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT IS NOT INCREASING THE DENSITY. IF INDEED WE WOULD NOT EVEN BE BRINGING IT TO YOU TYPE BECAUSE THERE IS A MORATORIUM. THAT'S HUNTING A PART OF THE DISCUSSION. >> BUT IT IS PART OF MY LOGIC THERE. >> I UNDERSTAND. >> BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS STILL NO THERE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE ROUNDABOUT AND THE FOOLISH, I UNDERSTAND. I AM JUST SAYING, I HAVE PEOPLE ASKING CAN WE SLOW IT DOWN, CAN WE STOP IT. EVIDENTLY, WE CAN'T. OF COURSE, I WOULD LOVE TO. I TRIED EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY COULD WITH THE A MORATORIUM BUT THEY STILL HAVE THEIR RIGHTS. >> THEY CAN'T STAY OUT OF COURT. >> WE ARE TAKING THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTY. THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING WE HAVE ASKED. I ASKED ON FRIDAY IN AN E-MAIL THEY COULD PLEASE PUT THE RIGHT TURN LANE ENDS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE SUFFERED WITH THE MAJOR ACCIDENT THE OTHER NIGHT WITH NO RIGHT TURN LANES. IMMEDIATELY I HAD AN E-MAIL SAYING THEY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TURN LANE AND SPIRIT THEY HAVE ACCOMMODATED EVERYTHING. [02:20:05] I APPRECIATE THAT. THEY HAVE A WILLINGNESS TO ACCOMMODATE. WOULD I RATHER HAVE NOTHING THERE, YEAH. BUT THE ARE GOING TO HAVE IT. AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME TO US. THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPELL EVERYTHING OUT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO IF WE HAVE A THREE-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING. >> 280 HOMES, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR CONSTRUCTION? >> APPROXIMATELY 18 MONTHS AFTER CONSTRUCTION PLAN APPROVAL. >> SO TO FINISH 280 HOMES? >> YES. >> YOU DON'T HAVE SUPPLIED CHANGE SHORTAGES. CAN YOU GET ASPHALT FOREST QUICKSAND I CAN EXPLAIN WHY. IF WE HAVE THREE FLOOR PLANS. A 280 UNIT TAYLOR MORRISON FOR-SALE SUBDIVISION WOULD HAVE FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT FLOOR PLANS AND WE HAVE THREE. THREE WINDOW SETS. THREE TRUST SETS. IT IS VERY EASY. CONTRACTORS ARE COMING TO US WANTING TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT IS QUICK AND EASY CONSTRUCTION RELATIVELY SPEAKING. SO YES ABOUT 18 MONTHS WE ARE. >> YOU CAN TAKE YOUR TIME. >> ANYTHING TO ADD? >> I HAVE A LOT TO ADD BUT I'M JUST WATCHING THE SHOW. >> THIS IS YOUR TIME. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE AND I UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OF SQUEEZING IN THE PROPERTY. I THINK THE PARK IS A LITTLE SHY. I DON'T THINK PUTTING THIS AROUND THE PARK TO SQUEEZE MORE IN THEIR. CRAFTSMAN STYLE I THINK THAT FITS. AND DECIDING WHERE WHAT WAS GOING WHERE AND WHAT ROAD, I HAVE NOT SEEN CHAOS LIKE THAT SINCE THE MARCH BROTHERS MOVIE YEARS AGO. I SORT OF ENVISION WHAT COMMISSIONER CONDON TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WOULD BE FURTHER ALONG AND THAT IS WHY I ASKED IF THEY HAD SPOKEN TO ERIC BECAUSE YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL FACILITY YOU ARE TRYING TO PUT IN AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ROAD IS GOING. THAT IS A BIT OF A PROBLEM AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED. WE HAVE BEEN REMINDED AND WE KNOW WE CANNOT SAY YES OR NO BECAUSE THAT IS A STATE STATUTE. SO I GUESS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS. WE COULD HEAR THREE-STORY OR FOUR-STORY APARTMENT, AND QUITE HONESTLY I AM SURPRISED THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE VOTED IN FAVOR. 'S LIVED THERE THAT IS WHY WE PUT THEM TOGETHER TO GIVE US RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THERE WAS A TYPO AND NO RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING GROUP. AND POSITIVE FROM THE FOLKS THAT ACTUALLY LIVE THERE THE CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE. NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT BUT I WILL PROBABLY VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE AT THIS POINT. I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT BEING IN THIS SITUATION BUT NOT MUCH I CAN DO ABOUT IT. I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY USE THE APARTMENTS IN THE COUNTY OR THAT WE CAN USE THEM AT 16, 18 OR $2,500 PER UNIT THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY THEY WILL DETERMINE WHAT THE MARKET BEARS AND WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL. IF THEY PASS THIS AND THEY BUILD IT WE HOPE IT IS SUCCESSFUL. THAT IS JUST THOUGHTS AS TO WHERE I AM AT THIS POINT. >> THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING UP. >> OKAY I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. THAT IS 3-2. [17.  Acceptance of Resignation from the Lake Asbury/Penney Farms Citizen Advisory Committee] OKAY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE ARE BACK TO LETTERS FOR ACTION ACCEPTANCE OF RESIGNATION FROM THE LAKE AS VERY TINNY FARMS CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE PATRICK FAULKNER. [02:25:06] COMMISSIONER BURKE DO WANT TO OKAY THAT ONE? IT IS LIKE I. >> MOTION TO ACCEPT. >> WE HAVE THE SECOND. >> I WILL SECOND PICK. >> MOTION AND THE SECOND. DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. CARRIES 5-0. LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION. NOW WE WILL GO BACK TO THE GREEN COVE SPRINGS ISSUE. MADAME ATTORNEY. >> OKAY SO BASED ON READING OF THE STATUTE AS WELL AS THERE ARE NUMEROUS ATTORNEY GENERAL OPINIONS ON THIS. I THINK AND CONNECTION WITH WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AS FAR AS BEING APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD APPOINTED SUBSIDY DESIGNATED BY THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE FIFTH ONE APPOINTED BY THOSE FOUR. THE ONES THAT WOULD COME THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL BOTH WOULD BE THE ONES PROVIDED FOR IN AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ON HOW THOSE ARE DESIGNATED. SO WITH RESPECT TO THOSE THAT COULD BE YOU OR YOU COULD HAVE THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY SATISFY THE STATUTE. THE WORK YOU CAN'T DEVIATE FROM THE REQUIREMENTS IF YOU CHOOSE TO NOT CHOOSE YOURSELF, IF YOU CHOOSE SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOURSELF. IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHOOSE SOMEONE OTHER THAN YOURSELVES FOR THIS FIFTH PERSON, WHAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES AND THE ATTORNEY'S OPINIONS REQUIRE IS THAT THAT PERSON EITHER NEEDS TO BE A RESIDENT OF THE MUNICIPALITY, SO IT IS NOT JUST THE AREA. YOU TAKE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AREA, YOU TAKE A BROADER. IT WILL BE THOUGH AND IT'S PROBABLY. YOU EITHER NEED TO BE A RESIDENT OF THAT OR A PERSON WHO ENGAGES IN BUSINESS. THE DEFINITION FOR ENGAGING IN BUSINESS IS PRETTY LARGE. YOU CAN OWN A BUSINESS THERE, YOU CAN PRACTICE YOUR PROFESSION THERE. THERE WOULD BE AN ARGUMENT FOR SINCE MYSELF I PRACTICE MY PROFESSION HERE AND CRINKLE BECAUSE THIS MY JOB AND THIS WAY TO BUSINESS. >> YOU EAT THERE TOO. >> PRACTITIONER PROFESSION PROFESSION AND THE CRA OR MUNICIPALITY? >> PRINCIPALITY. THE LIMITS -- >> BROADLY TAKEN, ANYONE ON THE COUNTY -- COULD BE APPOINTED. BUT THE AT-LARGE PERSON STILL HAS TO LIVE OR WORK -- WAIT A MINUTE. >> IS THE FIFTH ONE THAT HAS THOSE RESTRICTIONS. SO THE TWO THAT YOU WOULD APPOINT, YOU CAN CHOOSE YOURSELVES OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO DESIGNATE SOMEONE ELSE I WOULD RECOMMEND THEY FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY OF BEING SOMEONE THAT RESIDES OR DOES BUSINESS WITHIN CRINKLE SPRINGS POTENTIAL TO COUNTY ENGINEER WOULD QUALIFY PICK. >> ANYONE ON THE PAYROLL WOULD QUALIFY. THE AT-LARGE MEMBER HOWEVER HAS GOT THE SAME CRITERIA, RIGHT. SOAP THEY WORK FOR THE COUNTY, THEY COULD BE APPOINTED AS WELL. >> RIGHT. BUT IF THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT, IF THERE IS AN ARGUMENT THAT YOU -- IF YOU WANT TO YOURSELF WHEN YOU DO NOT RESIDE IN THE MUNICIPALITY AND SAY WE WERE NOT SITUATED HERE, THEN BECAUSE YOU ARE A COMMISSIONER THROUGH THE INTERLOCAL YOU COULD SERVER. FOR INSTANCE LET'S PRETEND IT IS KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. IF THE AGENCY WAS KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. BY THE INTERLOCAL, ONE OF YOU COULD SERVE. THEN THE AT-LARGE PERSON OR THE FIFTH PERSON WOULD HAVE TO PRESIDE WITHIN THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. OR ENGAGE IN BUSINESS THERE. >> BUT THAT PERSON WOULD BE NAMED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? >> PRECHTER. >> THOSE OF THE FOUR. >> THE CRA BOARD. >> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE QUICKSAND AND JUST SO CRINKLE AGREES WITH THAT. >> MR. TRAPP WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSING SIDE. IT CARRIES 5-0. TWENTY-FOUR. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE TREMENDOUS TEAMWORK WE HAVE HAD WITH MR. W. AND HIS ENTIRE STAFF. MR. KENNEDY AND MR. W HAS WORKED HARD ON THIS A COUNTY. [02:30:06] I THINK THIS WILL PAY DIVIDENDS LITERALLY IN THE FUTURE FOR THE CITY IN THE COUNTY, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OKAY, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. SEEING NONE. COMMISSIONER AUDITOR. [COUNTY MANAGER] COUNTY ATTORNEY. COUNTY MANAGER. >> CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS A FEW ITEMS. FIRST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED DURING THE BOARD MEETING TODAY. COMMISSIONER CONDON WE OWE YOU A COPY OF THE CIP WHICH WE WILL GIVE TO YOU MOMENTARILY. >> THERE IS NO RUSH. >> WE WILL GET TO YOU IN THE NEXT 2 MINUTES. >> I CAN LOOK AT IT ELECTRONICALLY. >> NEXT WAS THE FERAL CAT ISSUE I HAVE A NICE CONVERSATION, I JUST HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A MINUTE. MR. CARTER EXPLAINED A LOT OF DETAILS TO ME THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF AND I ALSO ASKED ERNEST IF HE WAS AWARE HE WAS NOT. WHAT WILL TOO, TROY, ERNEST AND I WILL GET TOGETHER AND GO OUT THERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND KID'S BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITUATION. WHETHER IT IS ANIMAL CONTROL OR CODE ISSUE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT IS GOING ON ON THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY. IT CAN ALSO BE A COMMUNITY SERVICE ISSUE. I ALSO MENTIONED THAT TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. MR. CARR HAS ONLY BEEN IN THAT AREA FOR ONE YEAR.% HE MOVED IN MAY. I HAVE HIS NUMBER AND I HAVE ALL OF THAT AND WE WILL TAKE A LOOK. THERE IS ALSO, FISH AND WILDLIFE COULD BE INVOLVED DEPENDING ON WHAT WE FIND OUT THERE. BUT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO ADHERE TO THE COLD AND STATUTE BEFORE US AND HANDLE THEM. I KNOW COMMISSIONER BURKE ASKED ME IF SOMEONE WERE TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS WITH ANIMALS, THE EASIEST THING IS TO DIAL 904-269-64 TO IF YOU WANT AN ANIMAL OFFICER IT IS #3 OR YOU CAN ASK TO TALK TO ERNEST. ERNEST CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED FOR ANY DOG OR CAT ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS ANIMAL RELATED PICK. >> 'S COMMENT ABOUT NOW THAT WE HAVE -- >> THE TRAP, NEUTER AND RELEASE I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW HE IS INTERPRETING THAT. I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THAT YET BUT I WILL LOOK INTO IT BUT WE ARE THE RIGHT PATH. >> WAS MARGINAL THEY CAN BE INVOLVED. >> YES, MA'AM. >> >> THE NEXT IS TO ITEMS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT THERE'S A LOT MORE TRAFFIC TO PRESERVE FLARED, I KNOW SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ATTENDEE AND THERE'S LOTS OF EXCITEMENT ABOUT THAT AND WE ALL NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER ON THE ROADS ESPECIALLY AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. THE LAST THING WE HAVE IS FOOD TRUCK FRIDAY. [PUBLIC COMMENTS] PINNING ANY QUESTIONING THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE BOARD. >> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS US ABOUT ANYTHING THEY CAN DO IT NOW. >> I DID NOT GET TO THIS WHEN I WANTED TO BOOK SOMEONE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THIS PUD CHANGE AND BUILDING CERTAIN ASPECTS WAS A FIRST-COME FIRST-SERVED BASIS. IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE THURSDAY, THE CITIZEN ADVISORIES COMMITTEE WAS MEETING AND WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE TEXT AMENDMENT CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONCERNING LAKE ASBURY VILLAGE CENTER AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT% CODE. THAT CHANGE IS GOING TO REQUEST ALLOWING PARCELS OF LAND WITHIN THE CENTER THAT ARE UNDER 10 ACRES TO BE EXEMPT FROM THE MIXED-USE REQUIREMENT. THOSE PROJECTS WILL GO THROUGH [02:35:05] THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT VILLAGE CENTER, MOST OF THOSE ARE UNDER 10 ACRES. BILLS PEOPLE WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NONE OF WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THAT ZONE. I JUST THINK THAT IS PRETTY AMUSING THAT WE WILL ELIMINATE ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR VILLAGE CENTER IF WE WANT TO. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS BRING IT [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> THANK YOU CHAIR. THANK YOU STEP FOUR HANGING IN THERE. TODAY, I THINK WE ROUTINELY TAKE YOU FOR GRANTED BECAUSE ALL OF THESE THINGS GET DONE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WE DO APPRECIATE IT. I WANT TO THANK RICHARD SMITH AND HIS CREW. THEY WERE WORKING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PLANTATION. THEY STARTED LESS THAN A WEEK AGO. EVERYONE THOUGHT IT WAS STILL BEING WORKED ON AND KIDS WERE COMING UP ON AUGUST 23. THE NEW BAPTIST HOSPITAL IS HOLDING A JOB FAIR. LOOKING AND THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN BACK TO THE NONMEDICAL PERSONNEL IN TERMS OF HIRING THAT WILL COME UP ON AUGUST 23 AND IT WILL BE IN THE VILLAGE SQUARE MARKETPLACE. YOU CAN PROBABLY LOOK IN. IN HIRING STAFF AND SALARIES AND WE WILL SEE THEM OPEN SOMETIME THE FIRST OF NOVEMBER. >> COMMISSIONER SAME. >> I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SPEAK TO. I WANT TO COMPLEMENT EMERGENCY RESPONDERS FOR THE TRUCK EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE ON THE 30TH. I ATTENDED FOR A WHILE AND ALMOST LOOKED DISAPPOINTED. I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A HELICOPTER THERE. THEY MADE ALL OF MY EXPECTATIONS. ON A SERIOUS NOTE. WE HAD ANY EVENT AND I THINK IT WENT WELL, A PRESS CONFERENCE. I THINK IT WAS WELL DESERVED. COMPLIMENTS FROM SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS. WE HAD A RESILIENCY MEETING, THE FIRST REAL MEETING OF THE RESILIENCY COMMITTEE. AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, HE WAS SELECTED TO BE THE CHAIRPERSON. WE ALSO HAD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND IT IS A PROBLEM HERE IN FLORIDA. WHAT YOU SAW TONIGHT, IT IS A SCALABLE CONTINUUM OF HOUSING AVAILABILITY IN THE GEOGRAPHIC AREA WHICH SPANS EVERYWHERE. ALL OF THE WAY TO A FAIRLY EXPENSIVE -- WE NEED HOUSING ACCESS FOR ALL MEMBERS OF OUR CONSTITUENCY. I CANNOT READ MY WRITING. I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE WE HAD A BOARD THIS MORNING, BALLOTS HAVE BEEN MAILED OUT. IT STARTS AT 9:00 A.M. UNTIL 6:00 P.M. EAGLE LANDING. MIDDLE BERG. SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON ELECTION DAY WHICH IS AUGUST 23 YOU HAVE MANY OPPORTUNITIES. SHOULD BE SENT TO YOUR RESIDENCE AT THIS TIME. WITH THAT I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR HARD WORK. >> I DO HAVE A LIST TOO. I APOLOGIZE BUT I ATTENDED THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THE REGIONAL COUNCIL. [02:40:02] I SIT ON THE COMMITTEE. THEY WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. ON THE CLAY COUNTY REPORT. THE PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRESENT THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN THEN GET A REPORT BACK TO GET THE MONEY FOR MEMBERSHIP. I BELIEVE YOU WILL SEE IT IS. THEY WILL GET THAT INFORMATION OUT. I ATTENDED THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN KEYSTONE. AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS WAS HOTTER THAN BLUE BLAZES BUT THEY HAD A GOOD TURNOUT. THERE EVENT WAS OUTSIDE WITH LOTS OF WATER PROVIDED. BOOKINGS LATELY THEY DID THEIRS AND OURS SO WAS NICE TO GO INTO THE AIR-CONDITIONING. EVEN THOUGH THE SHERIFF WAS THE HIT OF THE NIGHT AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TRIED TO BUILD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS THE POINT, THEY ARE LOVING THEIR NEW SIDEWALKS. AND PUBLIC WORKS DID A GREAT JOB SO PASS THAT ALONG TO TERESA. THEY ARE SINGING PRAISES BUT THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED SENDING ME PICTURES OF THE FLORIDA AND POWER AND LIGHT CONTRACTORS PARKING ON THEIR SIDEWALKS WHERE THEY ARE ON IT. THEY ARE SENDING EVIDENCE. I GUESS FLORIDA POWER & LIGHT SHOULD BE ON NOTICE. BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE OUT THERE. TO THINGS THAT STRUCK ME AS I WAS READING THROUGH THE MINUTES. WHEN YOU START YOUR PROJECT UPDATES WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A NOTE TO RESEARCH GARNER SAID PUBLIC NOTICE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON EQUIPMENT FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY MAINTENANCE SINCE JANUARY. I KNOW PEOPLE OFTEN GET IMPATIENT WHEN THEY PUT IN THEIR WORK ORDER BUT OUR EQUIPMENT AT SOME POINT BREAKS AND WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT. MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE DEVELOPER IF THEY HAVE EQUIPMENT FOR THAT. TOGETHER THINK MR. SMITH REPORTED THAT THERE HAS BEEN SHOUTING AND THROWING THINGS AND WORKERS. LET'S RESPECT THE PEOPLE TRYING TO IMPROVE THE WORK WAYS -- ROADWAYS. LET'S NOT TAKE IT OUT ON THE WORKERS. FINALLY I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE THAT CHARLIE AND I MET WITH COMCAST AND TWO OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION SUPERVISORS TO GO OVER WHERE THEY ARE STARTING THEY HAVE REPORTED THEY ARE THROUGH AN ENGINEERING AND THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND READY TO START THE ENGINEERING PROCESS. SO AS SOON AS THEY GET TO SOMEONE'S RESIDENCE THEY CAN CONNECT. AND I GUESS THAT WAS ALL. >> >> WHAT ABOUT COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO GET TIRED OF SEEING MY NAME ON THESE. WHERE ALL OF THE FUN IS. I COULD PROBABLY GET EMOTIONAL. IT IS THAT WHAT WE TO GO THROUGH BUT I KNOW IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR OUR PEOPLE AND IT'S NICE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT CARE THAT MUCH. SO I THINK JUST TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING IS ALL I CAN DO. THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. THANK YOU ALL FOR CARING. I TO HAVE A DAUGHTER, THE LASSO FOR STARTING HIGH SCHOOL TOMORROW. KINDERGARTEN I REMEMBER THAT LIKE YESTERDAY. AND MY OTHER DAUGHTER IS IN DRIVER SCHOOL SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TOO TAKE HER TO FIRST DAY. BUT ON TOP OF THAT I WENT TO [02:45:04] ORIENTATION AND WENT BEHIND THEM. BUT THEY WERE WALKING SO FAST. BECAUSE OF THE BUS DRIVER SHORTAGE THERE ARE KIDS GETTING DROPPED OFF AT 6:15 A.M. ONE HOUR BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. ALL OF YOU OUT THERE. MAYBE WE HAVE PEOPLE WANTING TO BE BUS DRIVERS. I WAS TRYING TO WORK IT IN MY SCHEDULE. AN HOUR BEFORE, THAT IS HORRIBLE. BUT ANYWAY BE SAFE OUT THERE. MIGHT 6-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER THOUGHT IT WAS EASIER FOR US TO GET OUT WITHOUT THE RED LIGHT. I KNOW WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENS. >> GOING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. >> I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE FERAL CAT ISSUE. I WAS GIGGLING BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW AND I'VE GOT NOWHERE WITH IT. WHEN I WAS CAMPING THE FIRST TIME I HAD PEOPLE TELLING ME THERE ARE CATS ALL OVER THE PROPERTY KILLING THE BIRDS. I CAN'T PUT A BIRD FEEDER UP ANYMORE. I SYMPATHIZE WITH THAT BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS SITUATION. WE HAVE PEOPLE BEATING CATS OUT OF THE BACK OF THEIR PICKUP TRUCKS. I HAVE A PLACE WHERE IT HAPPENS REGULARLY DOWN THE STREET FROM ME. THERE IS PAPER PLATES AND PLASTIC STUFF EVERYWHERE. IT IS A MESS. I LEFT MY TRUCK OVER THERE ONE DAY WITH THE WINDOW DOWN. I HAD A MALE CAT GET INTO MY TRUCK AND GIVE ME ALL KINDS OF PRESENCE. AFTER THAT MY MIND WAS MADE UP. WE HAD SUSPENDED OUR NEUTER PROGRAM FOR OVER YEAR. PEOPLE WOULD TELL ME WHEN I CALL BRING HIM BACK, DELIVERED THE CAT I MEAN, THAT IS ASKING A LOT FROM SOMEONE WITH A PROBLEM. AT ONE POINT WHEN I WAS CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS SUGGESTED WE DOUBLED THE FUNDING AND I WAS TOLD HE WOULD NOT DO ANY GOOD. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GO WITH IT. THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS NOT ACCEPTABLE SO I AM NOT SURE WHERE WE ARE WITHOUT ONE. GET OUT AND VOTE IT IS IMPORTANT. I USED TO KID MY WIFE WHEN I GET PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE. I CAN LOOK YOUR NAME UP AND SEE IF YOU VOTED. I CAN'T TELL YOU VOTED. BUT IF YOU DIDN'T VOTE WHAT SHOULD SHOULD I TAKE MY TIME TO TALK YOU. THAT IS A CALLOUS WAY TO LOOK AT IT BUT I AM UP HERE WORKING HARD. IF YOU DON'T CARE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY GO TO VOTE, SHAME ON YOU. SO GET OUT THERE AND DO IT. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. ANYONE ELSE? WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.