[00:00:08] OKAY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US BAND FOR THE IMPLICATION BY COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. LORD HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY. THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, RELIGION AND PRESSED. THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS, PROTECTION AGAINST UNREASONABLE SEARCHES, SPEEDY JURY TRIALS AND THE RIGHT OF STATES CONCERNING POWERS THAT GOVERN THAT ARE NOT GOVERNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. BE WITH US TONIGHT AS WE GOVERN WITH THESE RIGHTS IN MIND. LORD HELP US SEEK SOLUTIONS WHICH NOT ONLY RELIEVE THE PRESSURE ON OUR DAILY LIVES BUT PROVIDE A PATH TO THE FUTURE WHICH CAN ONLY BE BRIGHTER. WATCH BE WITH THE SICK OR MANY OF THEM HAVE SACRIFICED THOSE HERE TONIGHT. FOR ALL OF THIS WE PRAY AMEN. >> NOW WE WILL HAVE OUR VETERAN LED PLEDGE BY SERGEANT JASON MAASS WHO SERVED EIGHT YEARS IN UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS LISTED AT THE AGE OF 18 AND SERVED AS THE FIRST BATTALION MARINES IN TWENTYNINE PALMS CALIFORNIA. HE LATER TOOK AN INDEPENDENT DUTY AS A SMALL SIX SERGEANT GUARD FORCE AT THE FIRST MARINE CORPS DISTRICT IN NEW YORK. HE IS CERTIFIED ( INDISCERNIBLE ) I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT IT SOUNDS GOOD. AND AN EXPERT WITH THE RIFLE AND A PISTOL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. AFTER THE PLEDGE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, YOU ARE WELCOME. >> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> SO WHAT IS THE MULE? >> WE LOAD UP MEALS WITH THE WEAPONS SYSTEM AND TRACK THEM THROUGH THE MOUNTAINS AND THAT IS OUR TRANSPORTATION. I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE TRAINED AND THAT DISCIPLINE. >> IT IS A UNIQUE SKILL. >> APT CERTIFICATE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. [CALL TO ORDER] >> RI, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL CALLED ON JULY 12, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION'S MEETING TO ORDER. LET THE RECORD SHOW, WE HAVE ONE MISSING COMMISSIONER HERE ON [PET ADOPTIONS] VACATION, AND THE REST OF US ARE ALL HERE. WE WILL START OFF WITH PET ADOPTIONS. >> OUR FIRST DOG TONIGHT IS LUCKY A SPAYED FEMALE MIXED BREED 5-YEARS-OLD, 60 POUNDS. SHE CAME IN AS A SURRENDER DUE TO NO FAULT OF HER OWN. SHE'S A SWEET GIRL DOG FRIENDLY, CRATE TRAINED AND HOW STRAIN. SHE KNOWS BASIC COMMANDS AND WALKS WELL ON A LEASH. ALTHOUGH SHE IS 5-YEARS-OLD SHE IS ACTIVE AND AS A HIGH ENERGY. SHE'S LOOKING FOR A FAMILY THAT HAS A LOT OF TIME TO SPEND WITH HER. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIPS. SHE IS HEART ONE POSITIVE BUT THE TREATMENT IS SPONSORED BY OUR FRIENDS OF CLAY COUNTY ANIMALS. NEXT IS RUFUS A NEUTERED MALE MIXED BREED 6-YEARS-OLD AND WEIGHS 60 POUNDS. HE IS CONFUSED AS TO WHY NO ONE HAS COME TO ADOPT HIM YET. IS DOG FRIENDLY, HAS GOOD LEASH MANNERS, HOUSETRAINED AND UNDERSTANDS BASIC COMMANDS. WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT FROM A DOG. HE ENJOYS WATER TIME AND HAS HIGH ENERGY. HE WOULD LOVE AN ACTIVE FAMILY OR ANOTHER DOG TO PLAY WITH. A PULLED IN THE BACKYARD WOULD% BE THE CHERRY ON THE TOP. IS UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. OUR FIRST CAT IS A DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR, 8-YEARS-OLD. WE KNOW THAT KITTEN SEASON BRINGS A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL BABIES BUT LOOK AT THIS BEAUTIFUL BABY. SHE WILL PROBABLY GROW UP SHE IS ALL KITTEN RIGHT NOW SHE HAS HER AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND [00:05:09] MICROCHIP. HE LIKES PLAYING WITH HIS SIBLINGS HE IS UP TO DATE ON HIS AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING YOU CAN E-MAIL US AT CLAY ADOPTIONS CLICK.COM OR YOU CAN CALL IS AT 904-269-6342. WE OFFER A COMMUNITY RABIES AND MICROCHIP CLINIC ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH ON THE FIRST THURSDAY AT 5:00 P.M. TO GET AN APPOINTMENT IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE KITTEN GREW WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS YOU CAN CONTACT US I CLAY FOSTER LIKELY COUNTY GUM.COM AND THAT [SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION] COMPLETES OUR PET ADOPTIONS. >> WE HAVE TWO LONG-TIME MEMBERS OF CLAY COUNTY RESCUE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND OUTSTANDING SERVICE. I WILL LET YOU TAKE IT FROM THERE. >> I WILL DO ONE LITTLE CURVEBALL AND WE WILL ADD A THIRD ONE. I WOULD ASK THE ENGINEER RICKY, CAPTAIN STEPHEN TODD, AND LIEUTENANT SEYMOUR TO COME JOIN US. THIS IS A BITTERSWEET OCCASION. WE ARE LOSING THREE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD REALLY, IT IS 20 PLUS YEARS IN FIRE SERVICE. AND WE WILL GET THEM UP HERE. SO I AM GOING TO GO IN REVERSE WITH THE NUMBER OF YEARS TO CLAY COUNTY. RICKY TO MY RIGHT JOIN CLAY COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE IN 2014. BUT BEFORE THAT RICKY YOU SPENT HOW MANY YEARS WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE? >> 25. >> 25 YEARS WE JACKSONVILLE. IQS WITH SOME OF MY FRIENDS FROM THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE A REFERENCE TO THE MOVIE MONEYBALL. THERE WAS A SCENE IN THERE WHERE THE GENERAL MANAGER WAS TALKING TO DAVID JUSTICE THE LONG-TIME BALLPLAYER AND WHAT HE SAID WAS, I JUST WANT TO GET THE LAST OF BASEBALL OUT OF YOU. AND JACKSONVILLE WE WERE GETTING PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT SAYING A LONG TIME. WE ARE APPRECIATIVE FOR WHAT THE BOARD HAS DONE FUN FOR SOME OF THE JACKSONVILLE PEOPLE THEY STILL HAD THE FIRE SERVICE DESIRE TO SERVE AND RICKY IS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. RICKY SERVED EIGHT YEARS WITH US. HE WILL RETIRE NOW FOR A SECOND TIME. AND FOR THOSE EIGHT YEARS WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE IF YOU COULD COME UP AND PRESENT THAT, WE ARE APPRECIATIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE AND YOUR LONG-TIME SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF NORTHEAST FLORIDA. WE WILL LET YOU WAIT RIGHT HERE. [Stephen "Todd" Arzie, Public Safety] THESE NEXT TWO GENTLEMEN ARE REALLY BITTERSWEET. BOTH OF THEM CAME FROM THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS FIRE DEPARTMENT. FOR ALL OF YOU THAT KNOW THE VOLUNTEER SERVICE ASPECT OF IT. THEY DID IT FOR NOTHING BEFORE THEY CAME INTO THE SURFACE. BUT YOU ACTUALLY WENT OVER TO ALACHUA COUNTY FIRST. THEN IN 1993, JOINED CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE. HE IS RETIRING AFTER 29 YEARS AS A CAPTAIN. HE HAS SERVED THE LAST FEW YEARS AS A SAFETY CAPTAIN. BUT PORTSIDE HAS DONE A LOT OF THINGS OVER THE COURSE OF HIS CAREER. HE HAS A HOLE THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO FILL. HE JOINED OCCUPATIONAL AND SAFETY COMMITTEE AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WORKING WITH MANAGEMENT TO ENSURE THE% PROTECTION OF OUR MEMERS AND THE BOARD KNOWS A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN ABOUT LIMITING WHAT PROVIDES FIRE SERVICES AND ENSURING HEALTH AND SAFETY. HE HELPED OVERSEE THE CONSTRUCTION AND OPENING UP STATION 11. [00:10:04] HE PROBABLY GOT SOME GRAY HAIRS AS A RESULT OF THAT IT PROBABLY WASN'T EASY TO TRANSITION. BUT WE TRANSITIONED OUT OF THE OLD STATION, SMALL LOCATION INTO WHAT IS A BRAND-NEW I CALL IT A SHINY STATION PROTECTING THAT AREA. HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM AND FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS EVERY TIME WE HAD OPENINGS WE DRUG HIM INTO THE ACTING BATTALION CHIEF AND HELP TO ENSURE BOTH THE RESPONSE AND SAFETY WERE MEMBERS. SO FOR 29 YEARS AND A WHOLE DIFFICULT TO FILL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY AND THE BEST PART IS HIS SON IS A MEMBER OF THE DEPARTMENT SITTING BACK THERE SO THE TRADITION WILL CONTINUE. TODD, CONGRATULATIONS. [Mark Seymour, Public Safety] >> LIEUTENANT DAVE SEYMOUR. THIS WILL TAKE A WHILE. I ALREADY SAID HE BEGAN WEEK KEYSTONE HEIGHTS BUT HE JOINED IN JUNE 1991. HE WILL RETIRE WITH 31 YEARS OF SERVICE BUT THAT DOES NOT SOME OF THE MANY WAYS HE HAS SERVED THIS ORGANIZATION. HE HAS BEEN THE PAST PRESIDENT OF LOCAL 3362, SO I DON'T HAVE TO WRITE IT A MILLION TIMES. HE HAS BEEN A LONG-STANDING MEMBER OF THE JOINT OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY HEALTH COMMITTEE AND SERVED ON THE APPARATUS COMMITTEE. SO FOR EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT LIKE SOMEONE IN TV LAND AND DOESN'T WANT A PIECE OF THE EQUIPMENT HE IS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE, YOU CAN CALL HIM AFTER. HE SERVED A IS A MEMBER OF THE HAZMAT AND RESCUE TEAMS AND MORE RECENTLY WHEN WE GOT IN TROUBLE WITH SOME OF THE OPENINGS THAT WEREN'T WORKING HAS BEEN FILLING IN AT THE LOGISTICS DIVISION BECAUSE HE'S A CRACKERJACK MECHANIC AND HE'S ABLE TO TROUBLESHOOT PUMPS, HYDRAULICS AND ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS. HE IS ONE OF THE FEW PEOPLE THAT WILL RETIRE AS A FIREFIGHTER IN 2010. BUT THE ONE THING I HAVE TO SAY, HE IS ON THE COMMITTEE WHO HIRED ME. I'M JUST POINTING IT OUT. BUT THE PART THAT I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER AND WHERE I THINK THIS COMMUNITY AND WHERE FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES THAT ALL GRATITUDE THAT PROBABLY CAN'T BE PAID BACK TO DAVID, HE HAS BEEN CHAIRMAN OF THE ASSOCIATION COMMITTEE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE. HE IS TRULY THE JERRY LEWIS OF CLAY COUNTY. HE ENSURED THAT THOSE GUYS GOT OUT THERE AND PREPARED ALL OF THE STUFF. I HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL OF THE TIMES I WAS THERE HE WAS WALKING THE STREETS. HE IS RESPONSIBLE AND THE COMMITTEE HAS HAD SOME OF THE LARGEST, CONTRIBUTIONS BY THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY THAN ANY OTHER IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA OR ACROSS THE STATE. HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT SUCCESS AND THERE IS A HOLE HERE AND I SAID THIS WHEN WE WERE AT YOUR FUNCTION IT WILL BE HARD TO FILL WE WISH YOU THE BEST AND WE WILL MISS YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER, WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE I DO. HE IS SMILING. >> SURE. HERE WE GO. I AM ONLY HERE FOR THREE MORE SHIFTS, CHIEF. I KEEP GETTING THE TEXT, ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE COMING TO WORK. I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED SERVING THE COMMUNITY. I STARTED OUT AND THEN I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE. I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 29 YEARS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME. >> OUR PLEASURE. >> I APPRECIATE WORKING HERE. THIS HAS BEEN MY HOME SINCE DAY ONE. I WILL STILL BE HELPING. >> WHATEVER MY GRANDKIDS EXPECT ME TOO DO. >> RICKY, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY CHIEFS, AND I HAVE WORKED WITH TODD AND DAVE BEFORE. IT WAS A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU ALL. AND I CALL HIM SEYMOUR. EVERY TIME WE NEEDED SOMETHING [00:15:04] HE CAME TO FIX IT. HE WAS ALWAYS THERE. TAKING UP MONEY. I KNOW, TO ME, I KNOW SPEAKING FOR ALL OF THE GUYS THEY WILL MISS THESE TWO GUYS. THEY MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS DEPARTMENT. I ENJOYED WORKING WITH CLAY COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT. >> PICTURES? >> STEP RIGHT UP. OKAY WE HAVE ONE MORE PROCLAMATION. JUSTIN PIERCE. THE NEXT ONE IS PROCLAMATION, [1.  National Parks and Recreation Month] CHINA'S NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. EXCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION. >> WHEREAS PARK AND RECREATION AREAS PRESERVE THE HISTORY AND ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COUNTY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE WHICH IS TO GROW PART OF THE HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE OF CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT IT VISITORS ENJOY. WHEREAS ACCESS TO AREAS PROMOTE HEALTH AND WELLNESS BY ENCOURAGING PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES AND SPENDING TIME IN NATURE POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH BY INCREASING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE, REVEALING AND RELIEVING STRESS AND STRENGTHENING INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS. WHEREAS DESIGNATED PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS PROMOTE ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, TOURISM AND THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES AND PARKS AND RECREATION INCLUSION AND SOCIAL INEQUALITY AND COMMUNITY BUILDING AND ENSURING ALL RESIDENTS HAVE FAIR AND JUST ACCESS TO HIGH-QUALITY PARKS. RECREATIONAL PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES. THEY OFFER A 56 PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS INCLUDING [00:20:03] NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS, ATHLETIC FIELDS, CONSERVATION AREAS, GREEN SPACE, AND A NEW 250-ACRE CLAY COUNTY REGIONAL PARK CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT. WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH AND CLAY COUNTY RECOGNIZES THE NATURE AND THE MULTITUDE OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS DERIVED FROM THE RESOURCES. WHEREAS BOOK 2022 THEME, IS WE RISE UP OR PARKS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE DEDICATED PARKS AND RECREATION OF PROFESSIONALS WHO RISE UP EVERY DAY TO FAITHFULLY SERVE THE COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE THEY ARE BUILD STRONG, HEALTHY AND RESILIENT THROUGH POWER OF PARKS AND RECREATION OUT THE RESOLVE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION OF CLAY COUNTY VOTED TO PROCLAIM JULY 20, 2022 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH AND CLAY COUNTY. AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THE OUTSTANDING EFFORTS OF THE PARK TEAM HERE, WHICH CONTINUOUSLY SERVES OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS BY PROVIDING BEAUTIFUL, CLEAN AND SAFE PLACES FOR FAMILIES TO ENJOY TODAY AND FOR GENERATIONS TO COME DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS THAT SWAP THEM JULY, 2022. DO I HAVE A MOTION. A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR JUST SAY AYE ALL OF PAUL'S? GET OUT OF HERE. I. >> I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE WEPT WITH ME. WE HAVE RANDOLPH, A RESOURCE MANAGER. AND WE HAVE, THEY GET THE JOB DONE TO MAKE OUR PARKS CLEAN. I WANT TO SAY I COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOUR HARD WORK THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR DEDICATION TO THE DEPARTMENT. >> PICTURE TIME. >> OKAY. [EDC Quarterly Update - Crawford Powell and Laura Pavlus] PRESENTATIONS. EDC. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT SHE WAS TRYING TO TEACH ME HOW TO DO. SO WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT POINTS. >> I WAS THINKING EARLIER, A GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT THE CERTIFICATION. INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RUN THESE THINGS. THE CONVERSATION AS BEEN JOBS. CLAY COUNTY IS LOOKING AT TO .2% UNEMPLOYMENT WHICH IS INCREDIBLY IS INCREDIBLY LOW. ANYTIME WE HAVE OUR PROJECT OR PROSPECT, THE FIRST THING THEY SAY IS THEY ARE GLAD TO HELP. THAT IS THE RUNNING JOKE IN THE INDUSTRY. [00:25:04] MAKING SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES TO FILL THE OPPORTUNITY. THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THE REASON IS LOOKING AT. CLAY COUNTY SAID TO .2, JACKSONVILLE 2.3, THE STATE TO .5 AND THE COUNTRY THREE-POINT FOR. SO THOSE ARE PRETTY INTERESTING DATA POINTS TO BE AWARE OF. >> I PROMISE I AM PRESSING THE RIGHT ONE. SOME OF THE PROJECT ACTIVITY, IF ANYONE HAS BEEN ON 23 COME ON THE EXPRESSWAY THEY HAVE SEEN ADITIONAL GROWTH AT NIAGARA. THEY ARE GOING FROM 9,100 SQUARE 800,000 SQUARE FEET. THEY WILL BE GOING FROM PROBABLY, MID- 80S, LOW '80S FOR EMPLOYMENT UP TO WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS UP TO TWO AND A QUARTER POSSIBLY. I ALSO WANT YOU TO KNOW THE PICTURE IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER IS A MARINE. THAT IS THEIR NEW HEADQUARTERS OFFICE AND IT IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE UPDATED THAN THAT. THE LANDSCAPING IS IN PLACE. THEY HAVE OF FENCE OUT FRONT AND THEY ARE MOVING ALONG RAPIDLY. THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ON TAP, THIS IS STILL MOVING ALONG. THEY HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE COUNTY ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS WE ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT. PROJECT BUZZ IS STILL LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL ACREAGE TO EXPAND. THEY ARE A LOCAL COMPANY. THEY ARE GOING FROM 100,000 SQUARE FEET THEY NEED TO UPGRADE TO 250,000 SQUARE FEET SO WERE TRYING TO FIND AN ADEQUATE SITE FOR THEM. PROJECTS AND WE FOUND OUT TODAY HAS BEEN TABLED DUE TO THE LEADERSHIP CONCERN AND THE INCREASING COST OF CONSTRUCTION. IT WILL BE TABLED UNTIL A LATER DATE. AND UNDER INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT I PUT THAT IN THEIR. WE STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF LOCAL, REGIONAL AND NOW NATIONAL DEVELOPERS LOOKING IN CLAY COUNTY FOR SITES TO BUILD BUILDINGS. WE THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON ONE OF THOSE HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS. AND THAT SHOULD GIVE US SOME AVAILABILITY OF OPPORTUNITY. UNDER ADDITIONAL PROJECTS I WANT TO NOTE WE DISCUSS THE STRATEGIC SITES INVENTORY. WE ARE MOVING THROUGH PHASE TWO AND THREE OF THAT, IT INVOLVES IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL SITES, MAKING SURE THAT THE DUE DILIGENCE HAS BEEN DONE ON THE SITES AND THEY ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD TO MARKET. WE ARE ALSO COMPILING ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS APPLICATIONS THAT WHEN PROJECTS COME IN WE CAN PULL A SITE UP AND WE CAN IMMEDIATELY DO A DEEP DIVE ON WHAT INFRASTRUCTURES ARE AVAILABLE AT THE SITE. WHAT THE ANALYTICS ARE FOR THE SITE AND WHAT THE ANALYTICS FOR THE COUNTY. THAT IT'S KIND OF A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR THAT. THE ONE ITEM I DID NOT PUT ON THEIR EARLIER, I WAS ASKED TO BE INVOLVED WITH A GROUP THAT IS LOOKING TO BRING SPACE TECHNOLOGY INTO THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGION. THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A CONSORTIUM OF PEOPLE TO HELP SET UP SOME GROUNDWORK FOR SPACE TECHNOLOGY, ENGINE TESTING, ROCKET LAUNCH SATELLITE DEVELOPMENT AND I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO SIT ON THAT, AND WE WILL BE ASKING FOR A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT. , LATER TOMORROW YOU SHOULD GET A LETTER ON THAT. THIS IS GENERAL INFORMATION FOR INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL. JACKSONVILLE IS THE BENCHMARK. CLAY COUNTY SPECIFICALLY. YOU CAN SEE THE AMOUNT OF INVENTORY CLAY COUNTY HAS A VACANCY RATE OF 541% ON THE COMMERCIAL .2% VACANCY FOR INDUSTRIAL. THAT SHOWS YOU THE NEED FOR INDUSTRIAL GROWTH IN THE COUNTY. ALSO, BY BEING A COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS WHAT WE RUN INTO AN 90% OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE. WE ARE WORKING TO INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO YOU I SAID THAT THE THINK ABOUT HOUSING, IF YOU ISOLATE IS GOOD. AND IF YOU ARE SELLER IT IS EVEN BETTER. FOR HOUSING PRICES CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS WE KNOW. WE THOUGHT THE BREAKDOWN ON THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE COUNTY [00:30:02] WOULD BE INTERESTING JUST TO SEE WHERE THE GROWTH AND THE HOUSING PRICES ARE. THAT IS A PRETTY INTERESTING GRAPHIC TO US. ALSO NOTE IT IS A 28% INCREASE FOR YEAR TO DATE HOUSING IN THE COUNTY WHICH IS INDICATIVE OF THE ENTIRE REGION. WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE. >> WE ALL KNOW THIS, AND YOU KNOW THIS, BUT I GET ASKED A LOT AFTER WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE USE CODENAMES FOR PROJECTS. COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO THE FOLKS WHO MAY BE HERE AT HOME AS TO WHY THAT IS NECESSARY. >> SR. TYPICALLY, THAT IS DONE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND THE REASON YOU NEWS CODENAMES IS A PROJECT, EXPANDING OR RELOCATING CAN BE A QUITE SENSITIVE ISSUE FOR THEM. WHEN I SAY A SENSITIVE ISSUE, IF THEY ARE A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY COULD HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPLICATIONS FOR THEIR STOCK, FOR THEIR SHAREHOLDERS, FOR THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS. IF IT IS A RELOCATION WHERE THEY ARE MOVING ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER IT COULD IMPACT THE DECISION FOR EMPLOYEES WHERE THEY ARE EXISTING OR MOVING TO. TYPICALLY THERE IS A CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COMPANY, THE STATE ECONOMIC GROUP IN THE LOCAL ECONOMIC GROUP THAT FALLS DOWN THROUGH THAT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT YOU ARE AFFECTING THE INCOMES AND OPPORTUNITIES AND FORTUNES OF THE BUSINESS WHEN THAT INFORMATION IS FINALLY RELEASED. I WILL SAY SOME COMPANIES, THAT EVERY NOW AND THEN YOU WILL RUN INTO A COMPANY WHERE THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE BUT I WILL SAVE 99 TIMES OUT OF 100, THE COMPANY DOES NOT WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED UNTIL THEY HAVE MADE AN INTERNAL RESCISSION -- DECISION IN THE READY TO RELEASE THE INFORMATION. IT IS NOT USUALLY SO MUCH AN EFFECT ON THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AS IT IS WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY CURRENTLY EXIST AND THE BUSINESS THEY DO AT THAT LOCATION. >> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >> THE BUSINESS THAT DECIDED NOT TO BUILD, I WOULD ASSUME IT IS BECAUSE OF INFLAMMATION. IS THAT INDICATIVE OF WHAT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW? >> I PRAY NOT, BUT THE PROJECT THAT WAS ON THE LIST THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE SITE FOR ABOUT A YEAR END A HALF NOW. THEIR NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP ALMOST 25% TO ALLOW FOR THE OTHER PROJECT WAS BORN BASED. WE PREFER IT AS FOREIGN INVESTMENT IN A FOREIGN COMPANY LOOKING TO GET A FOOTPRINT AND THANK YOU WEST. AND THEY BACKED OFF BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT, AND AS YOU KNOW TRYING TO GET BIDS AND CONTRACTS, COMPANIES ARE SCARED TO GIVE YOU A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO DATE THAT WILL BE GOOD IN SIX MONTHS OR 12 MONTHS INTO THE FUTURE. IT IS INDICATIVE. WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM A LARGE GENERAL CONTRACTOR LAST WEEK AND THEY IDENTIFIED ALL OF THE ESCALATORS THEY ARE PUTTING IN THEIR CONTRACTS FOR GENERAL CONSTRUCTION. >> ONE MORE QUESTION. WHAT ARE THE TOP TWO THINGS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CAN DO TO HELP YOU OUT? >> WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT SITES AND OPPORTUNITIES AND WE ARE WORKING WITH COUNTY STAFF DILIGENTLY TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. ONCE WE HAVE A PACKAGE PUT TOGETHER WE WILL COME BACK AND ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO DETERMINE HOW WE CAN SECURE THE SITES. SO WE APPRECIATE IT. SO STAFF HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR. >> THANK YOU. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] >> APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER EATING MINUTES FOR JUNE 28 AS WELL AS THE FINANCE AND AUDIT MEETING FOR JULY 5, 2022. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND, [PUBLIC COMMENTS] FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR AND DECAY BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIDE, IT CARRIES 5-0. THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENT. I HAVE FOUR GENERAL CARDS. JOE TIERNEY? >> GOOD EVENING. [00:35:05] JOE TIERNEY. 1196 ( INDISCERNIBLE ) CRINKLED SPRINGS. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR ALL OF THE WORK BEING DONE TO PROTECT ALL OF THE AIRPORTS IN CLAY COUNTY. THESE RULES WILL PROTECT THE NON- FLYING PUBLIC AS WELL AS THE FLYERS. THE WORKSHOP WAS AN EXCELLENT START AND THE MATERIAL PRESENTED WAS GOOD. I APPLAUD THE MANAGER FOR ALL OF THE WORK TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION. MY CHIEF CONCERN IS WITH PERMITTING. IM NOT SURE WHERE THE OWNERS OF THE RV PARK ARE AT WITH REGARDS TO PERMITTING. I LEARNED TODAY BUT IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO HAVE THE COUNTY AN ZONING WHICH WOULD MODIFY AFTER THEY BEAN CONSTRUCTION. IT WOULD MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE TO ME TO WAIT AND SEE HOW COUNTY ZONING FALLS OUT BEFORE APPROVING ANY PERMITS. AND LASTLY, I KNOW WE HAD A MEETING EARLIER WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE ENGINEER BUT WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET A MEETING WITH THE OWNERS, THE DECISION-MAKERS FOR THE PARK AND SOMEONE FROM THE COUNTY AND US TO DISCUSS THE OPTIONS TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK OUT FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SPEAK. I LIVE ON FLEMING ISLAND HAVE A HANGER. I WANT TO SAY THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS PROJECT WHEN DEALING WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA REFERS TO THIS NOT AS AN RV RESORT BUT AS AN RV PARK. TEN MONTHS AGO PEOPLE COULD NOT LEGALLY RESIDE AROUND THE PARK BECAUSE IT WAS PROHIBITED BY ZONING AND LAND-USE RULES. BUT BECAUSE OF THE ACTION OF THIS COMMITTEE, 550 RESORTS HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED DIRECTLY WHERE AIRCRAFT ARE STATISTICALLY PREDICTED TO CRASH. EVERYONE THAT VIEWS THIS PROPOSAL ARE INCREDULOUS THAT THIS WOULD BE APPROVED IN SUCH A DANGEROUS PLACE. IT WAS NOT YOUR FAULT BECAUSE YOUR DECISION TO ALLOW RESIDENTIAL LIVING WITH AIRPLANES, 150 FEET OVERHEAD WAS BASED ON USING BLATANTLY FALSE AND MISLEADING INFORMATION. FOR EXAMPLE. ITEM SIX ON THE REZONING APPLICATION, QUOTE, ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE EITHER PASTURE/CLEARED LAND, WETLAND, UNCLEARED, VERY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND A JUNKYARD. THE INFRASTRUCTURE BUILDER OF RECORD FOR THIS PROJECT AND A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD TOLD YOU QUOTE, THE PARCEL IS CURRENTLY A BOROUGH WITH VERY LITTLE AROUND THE SITE. THERE ARE A FEW HOME SPREAD OUT AMONGST THE ACREAGE. THERE ARE COUNTLESS OF OTHER DECEPTIVE STATEMENTS IN THE PRESENTATION INCLUDING TELLING YOU WON HUNDRED 80 DAYS IS VOTE STAY WHEN THE APPLICATION REQUESTED PERMANENT RESIDENCE. WE FIND IT STRANGE THE REZONING APPLICATION AND EVERYONE REPRESENTING IT NEVER MENTIONED THE 40 MILLION-DOLLAR FLYING COMMUNITY THAT BORDERS THE ENTIRE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPOSED RV PARK. EVERYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT INCLUDING DALE, WHOSE FATHER FRANK, HIS FATHER SOLD FRANK ALEC MOST OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE AIRPORT KNEW OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE AIRPARK BUT PURPOSELY NEGLECTED TO INFORM THE COMMISSION. FOR FEAR THAT THEY WOULD NOT APPROVE THE ZONING FOR THE OBVIOUS REASON FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND. THEY WERE SO FEARFUL YOU WOULD DISCOVER THEIR DECEPTION AND CHANGE YOUR MIND THEY POSTPONE CLOSING ON THE LAND UNTIL MAY WHEN YOU CAN NO LONGER CANCEL THE REZONING. AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION YOU SHOULD BE FURIOUS WITH THESE PEOPLE FOR THEIR DECEPTION BUT YOU AREN'T IN A POSITION TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW IT'S A BAD IDEA BECAUSE INNOCENT PEOPLE ON THE GROUND WILL BE IN DANGER. THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO INFORM THE OWNERS THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR PURPOSEFUL DECEPTION THEY MUST REDESIGN THE RV PARK TO HAVE ACTUALLY NO TRAILER PADS UNDER THE AIRCRAFT FLIGHT PATH OR THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT OR IT WILL NOT BE ISSUED. THANK YOU. >> PERFECT TIMING. [00:40:14] >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE BEEN IN GENERAL AVIATION FOR 47 YEARS, RETIRE. I KNOW, THE STATISTIC SOMEWHERE AIRPLANES TYPICALLY CRASH AROUND AIRPORTS AS MR. LEE MENTIONED IN 70% OF THESE ACCIDENTS USUALLY HAPPEN IN THE APPROACH PATH AND TAKE OFF AREA. CAN BE A MECHANICAL PROBLEM, IT IS A PILOT ERROR. I'M WORRIED ABOUT HIGH DENSITY POPULATION THE PATH OF ON THE BOARD AND THE BOROUGH. IT'S 70% WHATEVER INFLUENCES THAT ARE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) SO I KNOW ABOUT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH ANYONE ELSE FOR THE GENERAL SESSION. ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO PULL FOR [CONSENT AGENDA] THE CONSENT AGENDA? >> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND THE MOTION. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. FOR THE DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING [7.  Lien Reduction] AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIDE IT CARRIES 4-0. THE FIRST ONE UP IS ITEM SEVEN. WHO WAS GOING TO PRESENT SEVEN. TEN SHE IS ON HER WAY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. TODAY WE HAVE THREE LEAN REDUCTIONS FOR YOU. SEVEN AND EIGHT I WILL GROUP TOGETHER THAT IS OKAY. THE SAME OWNER. DO THEY NEED TO VOTE SEPARATELY? JUST VOTE SEPARATELY BUT I WILL TALK THEM TOGETHER AND MR. WILSON IS HERE FOR THAT AND SO WAS THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE APPLICANT BORN NINE AS WELL. SEVEN IS FOR 1072 LITTLE RUTH ROAD AND EIGHT IS 1068 LITTLE RUTH ROAD. BOAT THE PREVIOUS OWNERS WERE PART OF THE FIELDS FAMILY. MR. ( INDISCERNIBLE ) -- RUBEN MOODY JUNIOR NOW OWNS BOTH PROPERTIES. THEY WERE ACTIVE. THE FIRST CASE, ADD STAFF COST $4,800. THE SECOND $3,180. BOTH WENT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE ON JUNE 2. AND THE FIRST ITEM, ITEM SEVEN, MR. MOODY ASKED TO HAVE THAT LEAN REDUCED TO $1,000, THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AGREED BASED ON THE FACT HE DID NOT OWN THE PROPERTY WHEN THE ISSUES BECAME ABOUT BUT HE DID ONCE HE BECAME THE PROPERTY OWNER, HE DID CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY QUICKLY. AND IT TOOK HIM A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO SO. SHE DID REDUCE THE SECOND ONE TO [00:45:03] $2,500 WHICH WAS ALSO THE REQUEST. >> ANY QUESTIONS UP STAFF? >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP THE COMMISSION'S TIME IF YOU HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING. BEFORE I GO INTO THAT, LET ME SAY HOW GRATEFUL IM TO WHAT YOU DO. WE HEARD TONIGHT, I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT AND WISDOM THAT YOU SHOW. AT ANY RATE. MR. MOODY, PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WITHOUT KNOWING ANY DID NOT FIVE TITLE INSURANCE AND DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE LIENS. IF YOU ADD UP $100 PER DAY GOING BACK TO 2006 THAT IS A LOT OF FINE. WE REQUEST THAT NORMALLY I KNOW IT'S A COMMISSION WE USED TO REDUCE IT DOWN TO THE COST THAT THE COUNTY HAD BUT IN THIS CASE HE HAD TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY AND THIS WAS SUCH A BAD SITUATION, THE SPECIAL ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AGREED TO RECOMMEND TO REDUCE IT TO $1,000 AND THE SECOND TO 2500 AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DO THAT BECAUSE HE HAD TO SPEND SO MUCH MONEY AND THAT IS HIS BUDGET REMAINING. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS. >> DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THIS? >> ABOUT THE THING I HAVE TO SAY IS, IT MADE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK BETTER. THE PLACE LOOKS A LOT BETTER. THAT IS THE BEST I CAN DO. THAT IS ALL I CAN DO. >> OKAY. BACK TO THE BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS? >> IGNORANCE OF THE VAULT. I DON'T KNOW. >> HAVE A COMMENT. WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF NEIGHBORS. SO, I LOOK AT SOME OF THESE INFRACTIONS THAT GO BACK DECADES. AND THEN I LOOK AT THE COST. THE COST TO THE TAXPAYER IN THIS CASE IS $4,800. SO, I DON'T THINK A 75% REDUCTION IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS CASE. YOUR NEIGHBORS, I MEAN, THE NEIGHBORS HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS FOR 15 YEARS OR SO. I CAN'T GO ALONG WITH $1,000 AND I APPRECIATE YOU CLEANING UP THE PROPERTY. BUT THE PROPERTY SEARCH, TITLE SEARCH IS, WE HAVE TO TEACH THE PUBLIC, TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WITH A LIEN AGAINST IT IS CRAZY. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT PROCEDURE. HOW MUCH WAS THE PROPERTY EXCHANGE FOR HOW MUCH SHE PERSON FOR? I DON'T KNOW THAT SIR. >> WHAT IS IT APPRAISE FOR. THE MARKET WAS 17,000 ON ONE AND 116 ON THE OTHER. >> I FEEL OUR COST IS THE RIGHT NUMBER. I MEAN,, YOU HAVE TO READ THE FINE PRINT. ANYBODY ELSE? >> I THINK, WERE TRYING TO GET THESE PROPERTIES CLEANED UP. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT. I RECOMMEND $2,500. BASICALLY CUTTING THE PROPERTY IN HALF. ALSO, IT'S CAUSING -- COSTING [00:50:06] TAXPAYERS MONEY. AND WE CAN RECOVER 25 CENTS ON THE TOP -- KNOWLEDGE THAT IS A POOR INVESTMENT. >> I SAY WE REDUCE THE LIEN. >> MOTION SECOND ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 4-0. >> I THINK SO. I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING. >> I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. >> DIFFERENT TOTAL BUT I GO ALONG WITH THE IDEA, THE IDEA WAS PROBABLY TOO INEXPENSIVE. I WAS TRYING TO WORK OUT A PERCENTAGE SO WE COULD APPLY THE SAME ONE. BUT THE CHAIRMAN WAS QUICK ON THE DRAW. YOU WERE QUICKER THAN MY FINGERS. [8.  Lien Reduction] >> OKAY. SAME DEAL? >> I WENT OVER THAT ONE AS WELL. THE ASCOM THAT WAS 2500. AND THAT IS WHAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDED AS WELL. >> I RECOMMEND ACCEPTING THE MAGISTRATES RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 2500 ON THIS. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING [9.  Lien Reduction - partial release] AYE. IT CARRIES FOR -- 40. >> NUMBER NINE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THE APPLICANT, IS JANINE AND HER DAUGHTER JESSICA AND THE TWO YOUNG LADIES ARE HERE TODAY. MS. JANINE OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON STATE ROAD 21 AND KEYSTONE. A LITTLE STORY BEHIND THIS ONE. HER FATHER ACTUALLY OWNED THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEN ADDED HER TO THE DEED HE ALSO AT SOME POINT AND TIME ADDED HER BROTHER TO THE DEED. HANK. HE HAS SINCE PASSED. HE OWNED A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT HAS AN EXISTING LIEN AND FINE ON IT. WHAT THEY CAME TO THE BBC FOR, IS THEY ARE ASKING FOR A PARTIAL RELEASE ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS HERS ALONE. ARE KNOWN IS MY NAME IS NOT ON THE PROPERTY AND JUST ATTACHED TOTHAT PROPERTY BECAUSE THE FATHER ADDED HIM TO THE DEED AT SOME POINT AND TIME. I DON'T KNOW I SAID HE IS DECEASED. AND SHE IS TRYING TO SELL THAT PROPERTY. THE LIEN DOES NOT GO AWAY, THE FINE DOES NOT GO AWAY. IT STAYS ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S IN OUR SYSTEM. FELT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WAS IN FAVOR OF THESE GUYS GETTING A PARTIAL RELEASE ON THE PROPERTY SO THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROPERTY. SOME OF THOSE YOUNG ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME OR THEM YOU HAVE THE MEMO WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION. >> QUESTIONS FROM STAFF. >> THE PROPERTY WE ARE SPEAKING OF, HAS ONLY BEEN BURDEN THROUGH THE OWNERSHIP WHERE THE LIEN IS AGAINST IT. THIS REQUIRES ANY PROPERTY THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL OWNS -- >> I WILL SAY THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT RIGHT OF SURVIVORSHIP AND IF IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ATTACHED. WE WERE ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR INFORMATION, AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT DOING A CONTINUANCE TO GET THE RIGHT OF SURVIVORSHIP. BUT WE ALSO FELT STRONGLY AND THESE LADIES COMING TODAY, THE PARTIAL RELEASE MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER ON THIS PROPERTY AND IT WILL STAY ON THE PROPERTY THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM. >> IS THERE ANY PROSPECT TO GETTING IT CLEANED UP? >> A COUPLE OF THINGS. AT THIS POINT IT IS NOT UP HOMESTEAD. SO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HERE AND I THINK SHE WILL TALK ABOUT IT THEY SAID WHEN THEY SELL, IF AND WHEN THEY SELL THE PROPERTY WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE HOPING TO [00:55:03] DO, THEY WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY AND HELP HER NEPHEW CLEANED THAT PROPERTY UP WHICH WOULD BE A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR US. >> DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT WOULD HAPPEN? SANTOS ARE. >> WHAT IS THE VALUE? WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE TWO PROPERTIES? >> I WILL LOOK THAT UP. >> OKAY LADIES. >> I AM HER DAUGHTER. I'VE BEEN HELPING HER ALONG. JUST GO GREEN. I'VE BEEN HELPING MY MOM THROUGH THE PROCESS AND I HAD A LOT OF TIME ON MY HANDS AFTER CARING FOR MY GRANDFATHER. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WENT TO THE PROPERTY MYSELF AND TRIED TO START CLEANING IT UP BUT IT WAS WAY BEYOND REPAIR. THE HOME THAT WAS ON THERE IS COMPLETELY DEMOLISHED. BASICALLY SQUATTERS TOOK OVER. I WON'T GET INTO THE DETAILS BUT BASICALLY WE REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE FUNDS TO CLEAN IT UP. I CANNOT PHYSICALLY DO IT WE NEED MACHINERY WHICH WILL COST MONEY. AND WE WANT TO HELP MY COUSIN TO PROBATE THE PROPERTY SO WE ARE NOT HAVING A PROPERTY WE HAVE NO SAY SO OVER. SO WE CAN SELL THE PROPERTIES. >> IS THERE ANY WAY YOU CAN BORROW MONEY TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY UP FIRST? >> I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW. >> NOT ASKING -- I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THAT. I THINK IT IS UNFAIR THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ENCUMBERED BY SOMETHING SOMEONE ELSE DID AND YOU KNEW NOTHING ABOUT UNTIL HE PASED AWAY. THIS PROPERTY AS IT EVER HAD A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE AGAINST IT? IT'S NOT THAT I KNOW OF. >> IT HAS NEVER BEEN SUCH BIG. >> AND I WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED THE QUESTION THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO FIND THE ANSWER AND IF THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENCUMBERED. IT IS IN MY DISTRICT, AND MY LEANING IS WE GIVE THEM THE PARTIAL RELEASE. IF THE SON INHERITED -- FOR IT HASN'T GONE THROUGH PROBATE. NO ONE HAS INHERITED THE OTHER PROPERTY. SO WE WANT TO FORECLOSE ON THAT, AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT. BUT AS FAR AS THIS CASE I WOULD NOT BORROW MONEY TO CLEAN UP ANOTHER PROPERTY YOU DON'T OWN. I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU CAN LEGALLY DO THAT. >> YOU CAN DO IT, BUT I THINK GIVEN THE CONSIDERATION OF WHAT WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE PROPERTIES IT ALLOWS THEM TO MOVE FURTHER WHETHER THEY USE THE MONIES AND DO A CLEANUP OR WE FORECLOSE AND MOVE FORWARD, EITHER WAY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND CLEANING UP THE SITUATION. SO I THINK IF THE COMMISSIONER WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION I WOULD BE GLAD TO SECOND IT. >> THE ORDINANCE AS WRITTEN WAS DESIGNED TO GIVE US LEVERAGE TO GET THE PROPERTY CLEANED UP. IN THIS CASE IT IS COINCIDENTAL THAT HIS NAME WAS PUT ON THIS PROPERTY WHICH HAS NO RELATION TO THE SUBJECT IN VIOLATION. I THINK WE OUGHT TO HONOR THE RECOMMENDATION IF WE HAD A LANDLORD WITH 45 PROPERTIES. WE HELD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE BUT I THINK THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN THOSE. >> I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDATION. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 3-1. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. >> WHERE WE. [01:00:04] IT IS 5:00 P.M. SOMEPLACE. ITEM 18. [18.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public hearing on the adoption of an Ordinance establishing the Clay County Event Ordinance (Article X of Chapter 12 of the Clay County Code and creating thereunder Secs. 12-181 through 12-220)] >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS KIMBERLY MORGAN FROM THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT. BEFORE YOU WE HAVE THE EVENT ORDINANCE, FINAL DRAFT FOR YOUR APPROVAL. WE DID MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT YOU REQUESTED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING AND TO NOTE THOSE CHANGES REQUIRED A DEPOSIT FOR COUNTY SERVICES. AS WELL AS CLARIFYING THE DEFINITION OF AN EVENT. CLARIFYING THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE PERSONNEL CHARTS WERE DONE. AND THE EXEMPTION FOR TOURISM WAS ADDED. AND ENDNOTES IN THEIR, UNLESS THERE ARE OFF-SITE IMPACTS FOR% THE EVENTS. >> OKAY, QUESTIONS? NO. MAKE A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND PERIOD. >> EIGHT MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIES 4-0. >> IS IT A PUBLIC HEARING DEAL. >> I RETRACT MY MOTION. >> SHE TRIED TO WAVE OVER HERE BUT I WASN'T LOOKING FAST ENOUGH. >> THAT WAS MY JOB. I TAKE THE FAILURE. >> LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THE ORDINANCE? NO ONE IS STANDING UP. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WILL MAKE MY MOTION AGAIN TO APPROVE. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> YOU ARE QUICK TONIGHT. >> JUST GOING DOWN THE TRACK. >> I'M GOING TO LEAVE AT 6:00 P.M. THAT IS MY GOAL. >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY [19.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Update of FY 2021/2022 Schedule of Fees and Services (D.Sileo)] SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIDE. IT CARRIES 4-0. ITEM 19. AT LEAST WE ARE CONSISTENT. >> HELLO. SO ITEM 19 IS RELATED TO SOME CHANGES TO THE FEE SCHEDULE. WE WILL BE BRINGING THE FULL FEE SCHEDULE TO YOU FROM THE OCTOBEE SOME ADDITIONAL RELATED TO THE EVENT. THERE ARE NEW ONES AS WELL FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE ATHLETIC FIELDS, TIPPING FEES, JUST BASICALLY AN AMENDMENT TO WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE FEE SCHEDULE. >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> THIS IS -- NO PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE. ALRIGHT. I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. 102ND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD [20.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public hearing on an Ordinance amending the Alcoholic Beverages chapter of the Clay County Code (Article I of Chapter 3 of the Clay County Code)] FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIES FOR SEVERAL. >> I'M 20. -- ITEM 20. >> HELLO COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE HERE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE ORDINANCE. REALLY, WHAT WE CAP BEFORE YOU IS JUST A REPEAL. THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT WE OMITTED FROM THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT WE TOOK AND PUT INTO THE EVENT ORDINANCE, SO THAT INFORMATION IS NOT INTO DIFFERENT PLACES. TAKE. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> THERE IS SO MUCH STRIKETHROUGH HERE, I AM WONDERING WHAT VALUE IS APPLIED, IS IT COVERED BY SPECIAL IN FACT? >> PUMP PART THAT YOU ARE NOT SEEING BECAUSE WE DID NOT AMEND IT, THE PART THAT STILL REMAINS THAT DEALS WITH THE POWER OF SALE AND CONSUMPTION FOR BUSINESSES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. THERE IS AN ENTIRE SECTION THAT DID NOT REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT. >> OKAY. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF [01:05:03] STAFF, OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TO US ON THIS ONE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> TAKE A MOTION. >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION NANOSECOND. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 50. >> VERY PERSUASIVE. >> THAT BRINGS US TO. [10.  Acceptance of Maintenance with MSBU of the Grove Pointe Phase 2] >> NUMBER TEN. >> THIS ACCEPTANCE OF THE ROAD IN THE SUBDIVISION PHASE TO YOU PREVIOUSLY IN THE FALL EXCEPT IN PHASE ONE. THIS IS TO ACCEPT THE ROADS SUBJECT TO MSB YOU AND WE HAVE INCLUDED THIS ONE AS PART OF THE INITIAL RESOLUTION SO THE FINAL RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE THEM WILL BE COMING IN AUGUST. >> OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS. >> I'M GLAD TO SEE THE ENGINEERS HERE. WHAT IS HE TO LIFT MAINTENANCE SYSTEM. >> RICHARD SMITH. THAT CONSISTS OF, THEY PUT THE ROCK DOWN AND THEY PUT PAVEMENT DOWN THAT IS THERE WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING THE HOMES. DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES AND ANYTHING ELSE WHEN THE HOMES ARE FINISHED, WE DON'T ALLOW THEM TO PUT THE SECOND DOWN UNTIL IT BECOMES OVER SPIRIT. >> NEVER HEARD IT, THAT. THAT IS TO PREVENT THEIR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES FROM TEARING UP THE FINAL PROJECT. >> IT IS WHAT THE CHAIRMAN SAID. WE RECEIVE A NEW PRODUCT WHEN IT IS FINISHED. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND THE SECOND DISCUSSION. [11.  Amendment Seven to Agreement No. 2014/2015-132, Traffic Signal Maintenance and Compensation Agreement with the State of Florida Department of Transportation (R. Smith)] ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE, OPPOSED SAME. IT CARRIES MARKET 0. ITEM 11. AMENDMENT SUBMENTAL AGREEMENT NUMBER 2014/2015 -- 132, TRAFFIC SIGNAL MAINTENANCE AND COMPENSATION AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OPPONENT. >> THIS IS RICHARD SMITH ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT. THIS IS THE REVENUE WE RECEIVE FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ANNUALLY TO MAINTAIN THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ALONG STATE ROUTES WHICH INCLUDE 16-17, 21 AND 224 IN ORANGE PARK. >> THIS IS NORMAL MAINTENANCE? >> WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS ABNORMAL MAINTENANCE. SOMEONE WALKS OVER A WALK SIGNAL. WE REPAIR IT UNDER THE SAME BUDGET THAT WE SET UP BEFORE IT GOES THROUGH. WE THEN GO THROUGH THE INSURANCE PROCESS OF COLLECTING THAT MONEY AND FLORIDA DOT WOULD BE THE BENEFICIARY. >> IF THERE IS NO ASSURANCE, WHAT HAPPENS THEN? ANGINA ORDER DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION REIMBURSES US. >> THANK YOU. >> I CAST MY QUESTION WOULD BE, EVEN WITHOUT REGULAR MAINTENANCE COSTS GO UP, DO WE GET TO AMEND WHAT WE CHARGE THEM FOR THAT? >> KNOW IT IS STANDARD THROUGHOUT THE STATE. >> THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE ELECTRIC BILLS. WE HAVE 1,060 ELECTRIC BILLS MONTHLY FOR THE SYSTEM. >> THE INCREASE THE AMOUNT WHEN IT GOES UP? >> IT IS UNIT COST SO THE ANSWER IS YES. >> WE PROBABLY PAY LESS COMPARED TO THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THIS AS A PROFIT CENTER. BUT WE -- MY GROUP DOES A GREAT JOB, AND STAFFING WISE IT WORKS OUT OKAY. >> STAFFING WISE WE HAVE HOW MANY TECHNICIANS, WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR THAT OVERSEES THIS. [01:10:06] SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO TRAFFIC SIGNAL TECHNICIANS, AND WE ALSO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH AN OUTSIDE VENDOR FOR APT HOURS. WHEN WE ARE AT FULL STAFF, WE CAN DO OUR OWN OVER TIME. WE CAN MAKE REPAIRS. WHEN A DEPUTY SAYS THEY NEED A SIGNAL WE CAN GO REPAIR THAT, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE. WE RELY ON THE VENDOR TO DO THAT. AND THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE COST AS WELL. >> IS THIS ENOUGH MONEY? >> YES. >> MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING [12.  Second Amendment to Agreement No. 2020/2021-228 AM2, Professional Engineering Design Consultant Services for the Bonded Transportation Program Construction Management At Risk Group #1 with GAI Consultants, Inc. (E. Dendor)] AYE. IT CARRIES 40. NUMBER 12, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING DESIGN CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK GROUP NUMBER ONE. >> GOOD EVENING. HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING IS CARLOS CAMPOS AND THE PROJECT MANAGER. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT UP TO 2020 -- 2021-2282 G.I. CONSULTANTS FOR GA I CONSULTANTS ON PROCESS OR PROJECT NUMBER FOUR. THIS CEMENTS THE SCOPE OF THE SERVICES TO INCLUDE THE RESULTS OF THE TEAMS EFFORTS. FOR 75,000 -- MRS. ALLPORT $75,705. THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAST MEETING. THE DESIGN CHANGES WILL NET CONSTRUCTION SAVINGS. IN SUMMARY, WE ARE ASKING THE TEAMS RECOMMENDATIONS AND ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL. >> QUESTIONS? >> SO ESSENTIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC WE WILL SPEND $75,000 TO SAVE $1 MILLION. >> THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD DEAL. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 102ND. A MOTION IN A SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIES 4-0. >> GOOD JOB. [13.  Second Amendment to Agreement No. 2020/2021-213 AM2, Professional Engineering Design Consultant Services for the Bonded Transportation Program Construction Management At Risk Group #2 with Jacobs Engineering Group, Inc. (E. Dendor)] >> ANOTHER AMENDMENT CONFESSIONAL ENGINEERING DESIGN FOR THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AT RISK. WITH JACOBS ENGINEERING. >> ITEM NUMBER 13 BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WERE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT THE AGREEMENT 2020 -- 2021, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING DESIGN CONSULTANT SERVICES, PRIMARILY THIS WHAT IS ON PROJECT NUMBER TWO. RESULTING IN A REALIGNMENT CHANGE TO MINIMIZE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO PROPERTY OWNERS. THE SUBTOTAL IS $205,889. AS BRIEFED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, WHICH YIELD THE COST SAVINGS AND EXPENSES FOR PROJECTS OF ROUGHLY $3.2 MILLION FOR PROJECT NUMBER TWO WHILE ADJUSTING THE DELIVERY DATES. IN ADDITION, ON PROJECT NUMBER LETTER SIX THE SHARK ( INDISCERNIBLE ) RECONFIGURATION AND THERE IS A LUMP SUM SCOPE EDITION OF 13,001 TO $60.01. AND THE REDUCTION COST OF REIMBURSABLE SERVICES, DESIGNED FOR THE SIGNAL SINCE WE BASICALLY APPROVED THE ROUNDABOUT INSTEAD OF THE INTERSECTION 3,155,015B. THE NET CHANGE TO JACOB'S CONTRACT IS $176,536.86. AGAIN FOR TOTAL SAVINGS OF JUST OVER NORTH OF $3.2 MILLION IN CONSTRUCTIVE THINGS WITH THE TEAMS RECOMMENDATIONS ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL. >> JUST TO CLARIFY. THESE SAVINGS ARE ESTIMATES. >> YES BASED ON CURRENT. AND THOUGH CURRENT VALUES. THE VALUE COULD GO UP OR DOWN. >> BUT THE OVERALL COST OF THE PROJECT WENT UP A LOT. >> WE REENGINEERED IT TO SAVE SOME MONEY BUT NOT ALL. >> GREG. [01:15:01] >> WE ARE STILL HACKING AWAY. >> THE PROJECTS WILL END UP COSTING MORE THAN WE THOUGHT. BUT WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN NOW TO FIX SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. >> YES, SIR. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> OF MOTION AND A SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING [14.  First Amendment to Phase 1 Preconstruction Agreement No. 2020/2021-234 AM1, Construction Management at Risk Services for the Bonded Transportation Program Group #2 Projects with Superior Construction Company Southeast, LLC (E. Dendor)] AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 50. >> TRANSITIONING TO ITEM 14 BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WERE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY AGREEMENT 2020 -- 2021. FOR PRECONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR TWO. THIS AMENDMENT IS THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR TIMING OF THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MAXIMUM PRICE RATHER THAN SETTING FORTH THE SPECIFIC DATE. THE CONTRACT AMOUNT AND THE TERMS REMAIN THE SAME. AS WELL AS APPROVAL OF THE PREVIOUS AMENDMENT AND APPROVAL% FOR THIS AMENDMENT AS WELL. >> QUESTIONS. MOTION? TANGIBLE FOR APPROVAL. >> A MOTION NANOSECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSING SIDE. HE CARRIS 40. >> THANK YOU, GOOD JOB. AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHY WE HIRED THIS GUY TASHA BRINGS US TO 15 [15.  Request to use alternative procedure to notice public hearings for the consideration of potential purchase and sale agreements for the purchase of identified real property for the County’s Community Development Block Grant–Disaster Recovery (CDBG-DR) Voluntary Home Buyout Program] NOTICE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF POTENTIAL PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF IDENTIFIED REAL PROPERTY FOR THE COUNTY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. >> WERE REQUESTING PROCEDURES FOR BUYOUTS. WHAT THIS WILL DO, THE CURRENT PROCEDURE YOU HAVE WILL BE 30 DAYS WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING BUT THEN THE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT PUBLIC RECORD. JUST BRINGS IT DOWN TO FIVE DAYS FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING. BUT THE RECORDS DO BECOME PUBLIC AT THAT POINT. ONCE IT IS ANNOUNCED THE RECORDS WILL BE PUBLIC AND WE ARE PLANNING ON BRINGING, IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE STATE AND GET THE DOCUMENTS IN ORDER THROUGH THEM AND BRING THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT TO YOU ON AUGUST 9. RIGHT NOW WE JUST REQUESTING THE PROCEDURE TO BRING IT DOWN TO FIVE DAYS. ONCE WE GET THE DOCUMENTS READY WE CAN GET TO YOU. >> I THINK THERE WERE EIGHT PROPERTIES LISTED. >> 11 PROPERTIES. >> WE PUT IN FOR 12 THE STATE DID NOT APPROVE ONE OF THEM. WE STILL HAD SOME DROPOUTS OF THE INITIAL REQUEST. I THINK THERE ARE EIGHT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON. >> WE AND TENTACLES ON ALL EIGHT? @. >> I THINK WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE BACK AND OUT. A LOT OF THEM ARE GETTING PRIVATE DEVELOPERS COMING IN BETTER THAN THE OFFERS THAT WE MADE. WE PRETTY MUCH MADE OFFICE ON FAIR MARKET VALUE AND WERE GETTING OFFERS FROM DEVELOPERS. >> IF WE BUY IT THROUGH THIS GRANT PROGRAM, IT GOES INTO PERPETUITY. FOR COMMERCIAL CONCERN PURCHASES, THEY COULD REBUILD OR DO WHATEVER WITH THE PROPERTIES. >> ONCE WE PURCHASE IT WOULD -- >> GREEN SPACE. NO MORE BUILDING. IT AFFECTS FUTURE INSURANCE ISSUES. >> >> THESE ARE REPETITIVE. IT ACTUALLY HELPS AS FAR AS -- BECAUSE YOU HAVE LESS THAT ARE ON THE DOCKET. TANGIBLE WHEN A COMMERCIAL GROUP COMES IN AND BUYS IT SET UP US WHAT HAPPENS? >> I WOULD HAVE TO REFER -- SINCE IT IS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, I DON'T KNOW. BUT IF RESIDENT TRIES TO BUY ANYTHING UP TO BUILD INTO NEW CODE WHICH WOULD DEMOLISH THE HOME NOW AND ELEVATE IT TO NEW STANDARDS. WE HAVE FUND LOT THAT WERE PURCHASED PULSE HURRICANE IRMA AND ELEVATED AND THAT IS LEGAL. >> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [01:20:02] MOTION TIME. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> OUR SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND. [16.  Award of Bid No. 21/22-42, CCSO Jail Air Handler Replacement (ARPA Project) (T. Saunders/G. Price)] ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. [17.  Award of Bid No. 21/22-55, CCSO Jail Elevators Modernization (K.Smith/G.Price/T.Saunders)] OPPOSED SAME SIDE. IT CARRIES MARTIN 0. >> ITEM 16. JAIL AND REPLACEMENT PROJECT. >> I HAVE ONE CARD ON THIS ONE. >> LETS STAFF PRESENT FIRST THEN I WILL CALL YOU UP. >> GOOD EVENING. JEAN PRICE CLAY COUNTY FACILITIES TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL OF BID NUMBER 22 HERE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF ONE POINT $64 MILLION. THIS HAS BEEN A PROJECT OVERDUE. WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON. THESE HAVE BEEN OVERDUE FOR LIKE 20 YEARS. I THINK ONE OF THE UNITS WAS 26. MRS. PARAMOUNT WE HAD THREE BIDDERS COME IN. THIS WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> WE HAVE ALREADY DID THIS. ONCE WE HAVE IT WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> YES IT WAS LOWERED BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN,. >> THE OTHER TWO BIDS WERE 1.6 MILLION. >> >> SEG AS SON OF THE WORK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND THEY HAVE BEEN SPOT ON. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A MOBILIZATION OR IF THEY WERE ABLE TO PROCURE STUFF. I'M NOT SURE. I DIDN'T GET INTO THOSE. >> IF I COULD, WHAT IS THE -- HOUSE AND SO IS IT WE MOVE FORWARD EARLIER THAN LATER ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S 8. I HAVE TO GET THEM COOL DOWN. RIGHT NOW I HAVE TEMPORARY CHILDERS. UNTIL WE GET THAT DONE WE CANNOT GET DOWN TO THE RANGE FOR THE INMATES AND THE STAFF. >> SOME OF THE OTHER RISK YOU RUN INTO, GOING OUT FOR A REBATE. POSSIBILITY OF HIGHER PRICING AND CONSTRUCTION IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. THE LONGER LEAD TIMES. THIS IS YOUR LEAD TIME. TOMORROW IT COULD BE DIFFERENT. WITH THIS, AND THE SITE BUSINESS THAT HAS TO OCCUR, WE BELIEVE IT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD. >> AS IT STANDS, WHEN WOULD WE GET THIS FINISHED. >> THIS WAS TWO YEARS ON THE CONTRACT. GETTING THEM OUT OF THERE AND GETTING THEM PROCURED. >> THIS WILL NOT BE TURNED ON FOR TWO YEARS? >> IT WOULD GET AWARDED AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO YEARS TO COMPLETE AND. >> THE WE ARE STILL WAY OUT THERE. >> COULD YOU HELP ME WITH WHAT WE THOUGHT THE COST WOULD BE. >> I DIDN'T BRING THAT SHEET WITH ME. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH WAS ALLOCATED, LITTLE OVER $600,000. >> I MEAN, YOU ARE MATCHING THE REST OF IT, CORRECT? >> SO THAT WAS WHAT I WOULD POINT OUT. KEEP IN MIND. [01:25:03] >> ALREADY WE ARE SITTING I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. >> OKAY. I HAVE ONE CARD HERE TO HEAR FROM KEITH. >> MY NAME IS KEITH. 5105 BLANDING BOULEVARD IS OUR OFFICE LOCATION. I WILL COME BACK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED ABOUT THE DISPARITY AND THE PRICE. WE FILED THIS PAST FRIDAY. BASED ON THE PROTESTS. WE WERE POSSIBLY 72 HOURS OR THREE DAYS AFTER TONIGHT. >> AS OF MONDAY, THE WORD LISTED ON THE AGENDA, WE DECIDED TO ATTEND THIS MEETING TO AVOID A FORMAL PROTEST. UNNECESSARY DELAYS. I KNOW YOU WANT TO GET THIS PROJECT GOING. AWARDED TONIGHT. WE WILL BE FINDING ANOTHER MORE FORMAL PROTEST SPIRIT I KNOW THIS COSTS YOU TIME AND EFFORT, BUT IT IS A BIG FINANCIAL FOR US ALSO. IT WILL BE DONE A LOT BETTER THAN HERE TONIGHT. THE BID NUMBER WAS 22 -- TRACK IT CLEARLY ON PAGE 18 ITEM NUMBER 11 PROPOSERS MUST BE REGISTERED THROUGH THE SYSTEM FOR AWARD MANAGEMENT. MOST ARE PROBABLY AWARE OF IT. BUT DUE TO DUE TO THE FEDERAL MONEY INVOLVED THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG INTERESTS. WE DO A LOT OF WORK. IN ADDITION TO THE INFRACTION, WITHIN YOUR DOCUMENT ATTACHMENT TODAY, UNDER COMPLIANCE WITH GRAY RPA, FEDERAL GUIDELINES, IT READS, SELECTIVE RESPONDENTS ALSO AGREED TO COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE FEDERAL STATUTES AND REGULATIONS AND EXECUTIVE ORDERS I WILL CUT IT UP THERE. SO, WE HAVE SAM AND WE HAVE FEDERAL REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. WE ARE MANDATED UNDER FEDERAL REGULATIONS BY THE FEDERAL ACQUISITION ALSO UNDER FAR, THIS STATES, AND OFFER IS REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED IN LESSER -- MY EXAM WHEN OFFERING QUOTATION AND SHALL CONTINUE TO BE REGISTERED UNTIL TIME OF AWARD DURING PERFORMANCE AND COMPLETE THROUGH THE PROJECT. AT THE TIME OF THE BID, THE GROUP WAS NOT REGISTERED IN SAM. ADDITIONALLY AS OF TODAY, IT IS STILL NOT REGISTERED IN SAM HERE SO BID NOT REGISTERED NOW DAY OF AWARD. STG IS NONRESPONSIVE. THAT IS ALSO DEFINED IN YOUR OWN PURCHASING. NOT GOING TO EXPOUND ABOUT THAT THIS EVENING. BID DOCUMENTS CLEARLY REQUIRE REGISTRATION. IN FEDERAL ACQUISITION REGULATION, IT REQUIRES OFFERS TO BE REGISTERED THE DATE OF THE OFFER, BID DOCUMENTS REQUIRE REQUIREMENTS WHICH REQUIRE SAM WHICH REQUIRES HIM TO ME ACTIVE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND LOOK [01:30:02] OVER YOUR DECISION. >> THANK YOU, ANY QUESTIONS? >> I'M SORRY. I MENTIONED TO THE COMMISSION, THIS, CLAY COUNTY DID A GOOD JOB HERE THE MECHANICS AND LECTURING ELECTRICIANS WILL BE $70 PER HOUR. IF YOU DON'T DO THAT YOU COULD EASILY BE 600,000. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THE OTHER BIDDER WAS ONLY $3,300, DISPARITY BETWEEN US WON WAS 1,000,001 WAS ONE POINT FIXING CHANGE AND THE OTHER WAS 3300. SO THE $600,000 COULD ALL BE IN LABOR. I CAN'T PROVE THAT BUT CERTIFIED PAYROLLS WILL CHOIR AND TREASURY BILL CHECKED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE USED THIS MONEY WISELY HERE I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW. >> ALL RIGHT, MADAME ATTORNEY WE WANT TO GIVE US BACKGROUND? >> TO ADDRESS THE LAST QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS. APPARENTLY THIS DOES NOT APPLY HERE THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT MAY HAVE HELPED AND THEY MAY HAVE BEEN MORE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. WITH RESPECT TO I BELIEVE TO WHAT HE REFERENCE IN CONNECTION WITH THAT COME APPARENTLY THAT IS WHEN YOU ARE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. HOWEVER, WITH RESPECT TO THE ISSUE RAISED IN CONNECTION WITH THE REQUIREMENT IN OUR OWN BID DOCUMENTS ABOUT BEING REGISTERED THROUGH SAM, WE REALIZE THERE IS A QUESTION AS TO THE TIMING OF WHEN YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED. THE COUNTY DOES HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOUR MEETING AS WELL AS QUESTION AND ANSWER BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY SUBMIT YOUR BID RESPONSE. YOU WILL ASK FOR CLARIFICATION AND THE WAY THE COUNTY PRACTICE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, BEFORE WE DO A NOTICE TO PROCEED WE ACCEPT IT AND MOVE FORWARD. ALSO, WHAT I BELIEVE IS QUITE APPARENT IN THE BID DOCUMENT AS WELL AS THE PURCHASING POLICY IS THAT IN CONNECTION WITH AN IRREGULARITY OR TECHNICALITY WHETHER IT IS NONMATERIAL OR TECHNICAL OR NON-TECHNICAL THE BOARD DOES HAVE THE OPTION TO WAIVE THAT REQUIREMENT. IN THIS INSTANCE IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD TO AVOID THE AGREEMENT THE BID AWARD AS WELL AS THE AGREEMENT TO THE CONTRACTING GROUP AS THE LOWEST BIDDER, IN CONNECTION WITH YOUR EMOTION YOU SHOULD INCLUDE A WAIVER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PURCHASING POLICY IT WEIGHS THE TECHNICAL ISSUE. AND REQUIRE THAT IT BE REGISTERED, AND THAT TIMING IS NOT UNTIL ( INDISCERNIBLE ). >> WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO BIDS? >> >> I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. I CAME IN AT 1,064,000. CAME HE CONTRACTING $1,659,000. AND YOU HAD SHEET METAL COME IN WITH ANOTHER BID. >> SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT $600,000 BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. >> THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY. >> SO YOU HAVE THE BID BOND AND ONCE WE ACTUALLY ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE TO DO A PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT. IT'S NOT THE STATE UNDER BACKPACK UNDER THEIR BID IT IS BLANK AND THE OTHER TWO BIDDERS HADN'T. ONE IS $32,000 MARK ONE IS $16,000. SO IT IS NOT $600,000. MY CONCERN IS THERE ARE QUITE A FEW BLANKS. SOME OF THEM ARE CONCERNING TO [01:35:04] ME LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR FINAL CLEANING. I DON'T WANT THE CHILD TO BE LEFT WITH HAVING THIS WITH FINAL CLEANING. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT IN THE PROPHET JACK THERE'S NO SUPERINTENDENT. THERE'S NOTHING LISTED LISTED% FOR THE PAYMENT PERFORMANCE. THIS I DON'T UNDERSTAND. MY BUSINESSES REGISTERED WITH SAM SPIRIT WE SAILED TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. IT IS LITERALLY A COMPUTER EMPHASIZED. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO RETAIN THE INFORMATION, BUT IT IS CONCERNING BECAUSE I DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS THE NOTICE TO PROCEED. I THOUGHT YOU SAID THEY HAD DONE OTHER WORK FOR US. IS IT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD THE SAME REGISTRATION. I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. UNDERSTAND $600,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, THIS IS NOT TO EXCEED, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE US GET INTO A SITUATION IF WE ISSUE THIS AND THEN THEY COME WITH CHANGE ORDERS THAT WE COULD BE NORTH OF THE BID THAT WAS NEXT IN LINE. AND THAT WOULD APPLY FOR ANY. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. I SUPPORT, I MEAN, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THIS ( INDISCERNIBLE ). [01:42:53] >> THEY ARE AWARE BUT THEY DIDN'T DO THEIR REGISTRATION. IF WE IMPROVE THEIR BID DO WE HAVE TO APPROVE THEIR WAIVER. >> NO, I DID -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CLEAR. WERE NOT ASKING YOU TO WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT, THEY HAVE ALREADY APPLIED AND THEY ARE WAITING ON THAT TO COME BACK. THE WAIVER WOULD BE, THE TIMING OF WHEN YOU NEED TO BE REGISTERED BY. THE GENTLEMAN HERE, HIS POSITION IS, BEFORE YOU CAN SUBMIT A BID YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED, AS OPPOSED TO BEFORE WE ALLOW YOU TO DO THE WORK ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY, YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED. >> GIVE ME A GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT THE PROCESS IS. >> ONCE PAY, WITHIN THE 72 HOURS THEY WILL SEND ANOTHER LETTER OF PROTEST AND THEN THEY HAVE ANOTHER TEN DAYS. AND THE PROCESSES LAID OUT TO FILE A FORMAL PROCESS THEN IT MOVES UP AND IT IS TAKEN TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THEY HAVE A HEARING AND THEY MAKE A DECISION AND THEN RENDER A DECISION. >> SO, 30 DAYS? >> YOU SAID THEY HAVE DONE OTHER WORK FOR THE COUNTY? >> SATISFACTORY WORK. THEY DID THE COURTHOUSE RENOVATION. THEY ARE FINISHING UP WITH THE PROJECT AT THE JAIL. SO FAR IT HAS BEEN SATISFACTORY. >> I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> MY MOVE. >> THE WAIVER. WE HAVE TO DO TWO THINGS HERE. >> IF YOU MOVE FORWARD TO APPROVE THE COMPANY AGREEMENT YOU SHOULD INCLUDE THE WAIVER WE [01:45:05] DISCUSSED. >> WE NEED COMPLIANCE PRIOR TO SIGNING THE CONTRAC. >> BY THE CONTRACTOR? >> ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> A MOTION WAS ALL-INCLUSIVE? >> IT WOULD COVER THE AWARD, THE WAIVER AND THE ACCOMPANYING AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTINGENCY THAT YOU MUST -- SDG MUST BE REGISTERED WITH SAM'S PRIOR TO THE AGREEMENT. >> THEN WE GO TO THE SECOND BID. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD AUTOMATICALLY GO TO NUMBER TWO, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK TO YOU. >> ONE THING TO UNDERSTAND, RIGHT NOW THIS IS A FOUR WEEK DELAY. I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. >> AND THEY SUBMITTED IT IN JUNE. WEEKS -- >> OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION, TO HAVE A SECOND PERIOD. >> I WILL MAKE THE SECOND SO WE CAN DISCUSS. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS NOT A LARGE AMOUNT, AS FAR AS $600,000 DIFFERENCE. OUR ATTORNEY HAS SHOWED THE PROS AND THE CONS. WE HAVE HEARD SDG IS A COMPANY THAT HAS DONE BUSINESS FOR US AND IS DOING BUSINESS. AND THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING ON BUDGET. >> A FEW CHANGE ORDERS BUT IT WAS RECOMMENDED AND INTERVIEWED BY THE STAFF. IT MADE SENSE. >> AND THEY DID NOT EXCEED 10% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD THEM COME BACK. >> I THINK, GIVEN ALL OF THOSE FACTORS, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED. WITH THE WAIVER AND THE OTHER THINGS THEY PUT IN THE MOTION. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 4-0. >> ALL RIGHT NEXT ITEM. ITEM 17. WHICH IS THE JAIL ELEVATOR MODERNIZATION. >> GOOD EVENING PARA I AM WITH CLAY COUNTY FACILITIES HERE FOR RECOMMENDING AWARD A BID NUMBER 21/22-55 CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE JAIL ELEVATORS MODERNIZATION. THIS IS TO MODERNIZE TWO OF THEIR ELEVATORS IN THE JAIL THEY HAVE BEEN HAVING ISSUES WITH CONSTANTLY. CABLES, AND THOUGH MICROCHIP PROCESSORS. THERE WAS FOR VENDORS THAT SHOWED UP TO THE PREVIOUS MEETING. WE ALSO HAD WHERE THEY REQUESTED I APOLOGIZE. TWENTY-FOUR VENDORS SHOWED UP. ONE ASKED FOR A SECOND SITE VISIT. AND ONLY ONE SUBMITTED A BID. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO AWARD THIS TO. >> EVERYTHING TO ADD? >> THE MAIN ONE IS THE KITCHEN ELEVATOR. WE COSTLY HAVE IT DOWN. BECAUSE OF THE PROCESSORS GOING DOWN OR THEY CAN'T FIND PARTS. WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOWN THIS CHECK WE'VE BEEN AS LONG AS A MONTH. JUST SOME STUFF WE HAVE. WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE MORE DEPUTIES FROM THE JAIL TO TRANSPORT THROUGH SMALLER ELEVATORS WHICH TAKES AWAY FROM OTHER DUTIES THAT THEY HAVE. >> ARE THEY GOING TO REPLACE THE ELEVATOR. >> THE NEW DOOR OPENERS AND CLOSERS, EVERYTHING WITH THE CABINET BEING REPLACED. [01:50:04] >> THAT'S NOT REALLY TRUE. WE ARE NOT REPLACING PUMPS. WERE NOT REPLACING MOLDERS. AND FACT THAT IS NOT PART OF THE UPGRADE. ITS ELECTRONICS AND PROCESSORS AND CABLES. I STILL DON'T LIKE IT. THAT IS WHY I SENT IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR REVIEW. YOU LOOK AT THE BID IT IS THE MOST SLOPPY BID I HAVE EVER SEEN. ITS 5,000 HERE, 10,000 THERE. NO ONE DID A LOOK AT THIS TO COME UP WITH AN ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF WHAT IT WILL COST TO UPGRADE THE PROCESSORS AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. YOU CAN'T TELL ME IT'S $5,000 FOR THE SERVICE ELEVATOR AND 5,000 FOR THE PERSONNEL ELEVATOR. WHAT YOU RUN INTO IS PROPRIETARY EQUIPMENT WITH MALLORY OR OTIS OR WHOEVER YOU ARE LOOKING AT. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OFFICES AND THEY -- AND THE OFFICE SUBMITTED THE BID, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PRODUCE THE BID, BUT THE REQUIREMENT IS TO HAVE A TECHNICIAN WITHIN ONE HOUR. I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN GET A TECHNICIAN LOCALLY AND ALL OF THAT STUFF, BUT IT IS A SLOPPY BID AND I WILL NOT APPROVE IT. >> THE ELEVATORS, THE ELECTRONIC MODULES AND CABLES, THE SECOND PHASE COULD BE THE CARD ITSELF. THE THIRD ONE IS THE -- ( INDISCERNIBLE ). THIS WHEN WE HAD BUDGETED FOR $110,000. SO A LITTLE OVER WILL BE BUDGETED. SO IT IS ESSENTIALLY RIGHT THERE. >> IS IT THE RIGHT FIX BOWFLEX. >> SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE HAD, THE TABULATION SHEET. THE NUMBERS LOOK LIKE THEY HAD HOMEWORK PACKET BE DISCUSSED. THE SOLUTIONS GIVEN IN THIS BID DOES NOT SEEMED LIKE IT WILL FIX THE PROBLEMS OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE DO HAVE A MAINTENANCE CONTRACT FOR THE MONTHLY INSPECTION AND IT LOOKS AT EVERYTHING IN THERE AS WELL. >> MY CONCERN IS, IT IS NOT ENOUGH. PIECE OF JUNK BUT IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, AND DO YOU THINK THIS WILL DO THE JOB FOR EARTHQUAKES. >> IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE STEPS TO GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THE FINAL OPERATION. MY QUESTION IS YOU HAD FOUR PEOPLE COME IN, WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL CHANGE IN THE NEXT GO AROUND IF WE BID, THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN. THE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING WON'T EVEN ATTEND THE MEETING THIS TIME. IT IS A LOWERY ELEVATOR. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TOO MUCH OF A CHOICE IN THIS. >> PAPAL DO THAT. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS ASKING. WHAT WILL IT COST? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE WITH ME RIGHT NOW, SIR. >> I THINK THE ADVANTAGE IS, YOU SEND A SIGNAL THAT YOU'RE NOT -- WE ARE NOT JUST GOING TO EAT ANYTHING. GIVE ME A REAL BID. A CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF WHAT YOU WILL REPAIR. DON'T TELL ME IT WILL BE $5,000 HERE, $10,000 THERE. THIS IS A REAL SHABBY BID. >> BUT IT IS BETTER THAN NO BID. >> YOU DO IT AGAIN AND YOU LET THEM KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING. WILL ANYWAY. THIS PACKET. >> SOUNDS LIKE AN AIRCRAFT MECHANIC. >> WE HAVE HAD OTHER BIDS, THAT WE APPROVE. I THINK WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT TAUGHT TECH -- TIGHTENING UP OUR PURCHASING AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR. MAYBE THAT IS A WAY WE CAN GO. BUT I LEAN TOWARDS AGREEING WITH COMMISSIONER CELLA. IT IS NOT AN OTIS ELEVATOR SO WHY WOULD OTIS BID ON REPLACING INTERNAL PARTS THAT MAKE IT WORK AND TAKING ON THE RISK OF VOIDING WARRANTY OR LIABILITY WITH THE COUNTY. AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, [01:55:06] MR. SAUNDERS TOLD US THEY HAVE BEEN DOWN MORE THAN A MONTH NOT HAVING THE ACCESS TO DO THEIR JOBS. I THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS. THIS IS THE CLOSEST ANY BID WE HAVE COME IN WITH. NORMALLY WE ARE WAY OVER BECAUSE OF INFLATION OR SUPPLY CHAIN OR WHATEVER THE FLAVOR OF THE DAY IS. I THINK WE NEED TO GET THIS FIXED. >> THE OTHER ASPECT IS IF WE MOVE FORWARD, WE HAVE PARTS THAT CAN STAY AS THEY UPGRADE OTHER ELEMENTS. I THINK, THE MAJOR COST OF REPAIRING THE FULL ELEVATOR IS WELL BEYOND WHAT WE ARE IMAGINING IT TO BE. THIS GETS US TO A POINT WHERE IT IS OPERATIONAL. WE ARE TRYING TO FEED SOME PEOPLE AND THE JAIL AT THIS POINT. I DON'T SEE AN ADVANTAGE TO SENDING IT BACK AT THIS POINT. I DO SEE AN ADVANTAGE ONCE WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT AND THE FACILITIES PEOPLE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO HAVE EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. AND THEY ARE ON THE HOOK FOR IT. >> DID THEY WARRANT ANY OF THIS WORK? >> THEY DID. >> THE ONLY WAY TO GET A GOOD BID IS TO OPEN IT UP AND REPLACE THE ELEVATOR. IT IS PROPRIETARY. THAT IS WHY I WAS PROBING TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, IF IT IS OVER 1 MILLION OR HALF OF A MILLION WHERE IS IT. I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE. I HAVEN'T BOUGHT AN ELEVATOR A LONG TIME. IF THAT IS THE ONLY BID WE HAVE WE HAVE NO CHOICE IN MY OPINION. ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IS BROKEN OUT. I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. A MOTION AND A SECOND. WE NEED TO DISCUSS. ANYONE ELSE? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 3-1. OKAY. WE ARE ACT CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. DO WE HAVE ANY INPUT. [COUNTY ATTORNEY] COMMISSION AUDITOR. ATTORNEY. >> YES, JUST TO FOLLOW-UP, AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING IN CONNECTION WITH ONE OF THE ITEMS BEFORE YOU FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU REQUESTED THAT THE LEGAL OFFICE LOOK INTO MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE PROPERTY OWNER AT THE WILDERNESS DRIVE PROPERTY WHICH IS THE PROPERTY WITH THE IF YOU RECALL IN CONNECTION WITH THAT CASE THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING TO MOVE, AND HAVE HIS LAND USE CHANGE FROM PCN TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL TO PRESUMABLY BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE ISSUE FROM HOW DEP IS MOVING FORWARD AND WE HAVE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, CHARISSE AND HER STAFF AS WELL AS THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT. JUST TO GIVE YOU A BACKDROP OF THE ACTION, THEY WILL BE PROCEEDING FORWARD WITH A WARNING LETTER WHICH IS A NOTICE OF VIOLATION ON TWO DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS. ONE IS BECAUSE OF THE BULKHEAD THAT HE MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT THE PERMITTING AND THE DISTURBANCE OF THE WETLANDS WHICH IS REALLY, THEY CAN'T CALL IT FILL BECAUSE TECHNICALLY HE MAY NOT HAVE FILLED THAT HE MAY HAVE MOVED THE DIRT AROUND ON THE LAND. BUT THOSE WILL BE THE TWO DIFFERENT ACTIONS THAT THEY WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH AND LOOKING FOR THEIR REMEDIAL PART WHICH WILL BE THE DIRT REMOVAL OR RESHAPING OF IT, AND REPLANTING AND THEY WILL REQUIRE EM TO PERMIT THE BULKHEAD. THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS. THEY TO HAVE JURISDICTION AND WE DON'T. SO SPECIFICALLY THIS IS OVER THE SURFACE WATER AND THE WETLANDS. THAT IS HOW THEY WILL BE MOVING FORWARD. IN CONNECTION WITH THE CODE [02:00:05] ENFORCEMENT OR ANY OTHER LEGAL ACTION. IT IS CLEAR THEY DID VIOLATE THE ZONING CODE. YOU CAN'T TOUCH IT WITHOUT THE LAND USE CHANGE. CLEARLY HE SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL. BY MOVING FORWARD AS YOU DID AND VOTING AGAINST IT YOU HAVE PROHIBITED HIM FROM MOVING FORWARD AND HAVING ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THAT UNTIL HE CLEARS UP THINGS AND UNTIL HE COMES BACK TO YOU. WITH THAT SAID, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, THERE HAS BEEN A COMPLAINT THAT WE WILL BE MOVING FORWARD IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, IT WILL BE FINDING HIM ONCE IT GOES TO THE MAGISTRATE WHICH WILL BE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AND IN CONNECTION WITH THAT HE WILL BE FINE UNTIL HE CAN BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. LOOKING AT MOVING SEPARATELY WE THOUGHT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE AND WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR A LOT OF THE SAME WORK THAT WILL BE DONE IN THE DEP AS FAR AS RESTORING THE PROPERTY TO WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, IF HE FAILS TO DO THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH LEGAL ACTION ON THAT LIEN FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> SOUNDS GOOD. >> WE DENIED THE LAND USE CHANGE? >> CORRECT. >> AND YOU SAID UNTIL IT COMES BACK TO US. >> IT IS A LAND-USE, CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE IT. HE HAS TO REAPPLY AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. >> FORTE LAND-USE. >> BUT THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE FEE. ISN'T IT LIKE $1,700? >> IT IS A HEFTY START OVER. A FEE TO REAPPLY. >> WE ARE WAITING ON DEP TO DO SOMETHING. IT HAS BEEN A FOREVER WAY. WE NEED TO MAKE A STAND SOMEWHERE AND SAY YOU CAN'T DO CERTAIN STUFF. >> AND YARD DENIAL WAS HELPFUL. IT SHUTS DOWN ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE TRYING TO RESOLVE IT. >> UP WE COMMUNICATED WITH THE OWNER SINCE LAST WEEK? >> WEEPING THE MINING DEPARTMENT DID SEND A NOTIFICATION OF THAT FILE BUT WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK. IN DISCUSSION, THEY HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM HIM SINCE PRIOR TO YOUR DENIAL. >> IT IS A REALLY DIFFICULT SITUATION BECAUSE WE HAVE THINGS HAPPEN EVERY DAY. I SENT ONE TO CHARISSE WHERE WE HAVE A LOCAL ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR WHO DID FOUR HOMES. AND THESE POOR PROPERTY OWNERS ARE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG, AND I GUESS IT IS JUST EDUCATION FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. THESE WORD-OF-MOUTH FACEBOOK SITES WERE ASKING A FRIEND OR NEIGHBOR OR CONTRACTOR, INSTEAD OF CALLING THE COUNTY, THAT IS NOT GOOD ADVICE. THERE IS A REASON YOU HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT AND A REASON FOR OUR COALBED EXISTS AND WE HAVE PEOPLE EVERY DAY DOING WORK, I SAID THIS AT THE LAST MEETING. BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVE PEOPLE EVERY DAY DOING WORK THINKING IT IS OKAY AS LONG AS I DON'T GET CAUGHT. >> I COULD SAY I TOLD YOU SO. WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS. >> I DON'T THINK THE BUSINESS LICENSE WOULD HAVE OUT THIS. IN THIS SITUATION, PULLING PERMITS IS THAT'S RIGHT IF WE CAN TO SOME EDUCATION TO SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO THIS IS WITH YOU CAN'T DO. >> WERE THESE NEW HOMES? >> HIS PROPERTY IS VACANT. IT IS PCN. >> ONE WASN'T PREPARED TO SELL, AND THE OTHERS WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE INFORMATION YET. IT IS A CONTRACTOR OUT THERE DOING REPAIR AND ELECTRICAL WORK. IT IS ON EXISTING HOMES. >> I THINK THE MESSAGES YOU SHOULD CHECK WITH US FIRST, REGARDLESS. CALL US, WE ARE AVAILABLE. >> OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS [COUNTY MANAGER] ONE? NO. ALL RIGHT COUNTY MANAGER. >> COMMISSIONERS, HAVE A FEW [02:05:03] ITEMS. WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL SWOT ANALYSIS. IT WAS WELL ATTENDED BY A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. AND EVEN HAD REPRESENTATION FROM THE HOSPITAL THAT WAS HERE. I HAD A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION THAT AFTERNOON, THURSDAY, JULY 7. WITH A CONTRACT WITH NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL. THEY REPORT BACK TO US BY THE 26 WHICH WE CAN PROVIDE A WAY FOR% THE BOARD. AND THE USE OF THOSE MONIES. AND ALSO ON THE 26TH OF JULY, WE HAVE OUR BUDGET AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT WORKSHOP. IT WILL BE FROM 9:00 A.M. UNTIL 12:00 P.M. TROY, REGGIE, DEBBIE AND LISA HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS DILIGENTLY GETTING THINGS TOGETHER, PUTTING IT WITHIN OUR WORKDAY SYSTEM. AND WE WILL BE BRINGING THOSE NUMBERS TO THE BOARD BASED ON THE ESTIMATED AMOUNTS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE WITH REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY VALUES DROPPED THE COUNTY. TAKE NEXT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE VEHICLE SAFETY. WE HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN FIDELITY'S WITH TRAFFIC. THERE'S REALLY NO RHYME OR REASON WHETHER IT IS A BEAUTIFUL DAY OUTSIDE OR POURING RAIN. WE DID HAVE A RAIN EVENT THIS PAST FRIDAY. THEY SAID ONLY .4 INCHES BUT WE KNOW IT WAS INCHES WITHIN 30 MINUTES, KIND OF OVERWHELMING THOSE AREAS. AGAIN WHENEVER YOU ARE DRIVING IN THOSE CONDITIONS, SLOW DOWN. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT IS I HAD. BUT THESE OTHER ACCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED OVER THE PAST WEEKEND, PAYING ATTENTION, HIGH RATES OF SPEED, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED. LAST THING I HAVE, WE RECEIVED A HEALTH ALERT, CAUTION TO THE DOCTORS FOR ALGAE BLOOM. MOST OF THE AREAS ARE ON THE EDGES AROUND DOCTOR SLICK FROM THE BOY SCOUT CAMP ALL OF THE WAY DOWN IN THAT AREA. PLEASE BE CAREFUL. THEY TAKE READINGS AND PUT THE WORD OUT. IT HAS BEEN PUT OUT BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH BY THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS. EVERYTHING IS ON OUR WEBSITE. EATING, WATERSKIING OR ANYTHING YOU'RE DOING. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> CAP TO CATCH THE FISH FIRST. >> CATCH THE FISH, CLEAN IT WELL. >> WE HAVE LETTERS FOR ACTION. [21.  Discussion of Reappointment to the Tourist Development Council] ( INDISCERNIBLE ) COMMISSIONER CELLA GONE TELL US ABOUT IT. >> HE SITS IN AC AND IT IS DIFFICULT FOR US TO FIND PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS SPECIFIC TO WANT TO SAY HOSPITALITY, ACCOMMODATIONS. SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA. KEVIN WE APPOINTED HIM TO REPLACE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) SO WE ARE RENEWING HIM FOR ANOTHER TIME. HE IS A VALUABLE ADDITION. >> QUESTIONS. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT TO THE PDC. >> >> MIGHT DISCUSSION DEALS WITH PAT. SHE HAS BEEN ON THE TDC FOR A LONG TIME. DID WE SEND OUT A LETTER OF APPRECIATION FOR SERVICE QUICKSAND YES WE GAVE A NICE BLACK. >> AND RECOGNIZE HER SERVICE. >> AND WE MISS HER, SHE WAS A VALUABLE MEMBER AND WE MISS HER BED AND BREAKFAST -- WE HAVE A SECOND? >> A MOTION AND THE SECOND. FOR THE DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 5-FOOT 0. [02:10:01] THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS US TONIGHT? [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] ANYTHING. CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER CONDON. >> WE SLAP SOME SHERIFFS DEPUTIES HERE. THE REPRESENTATIVE JUST LET. SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN ON THEIR POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA THERE'S A WOMAN MISSING FROM BAKER COUNTY THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. MISSING THEIR LOVED ONE. AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF THE WORK THAT THEY ARE OUT THERE DOING. WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON AND A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THINGS. I JUST THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE FOR ALL OF US TO REMEMBER THAT WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL OF STEPPING ON TILES OF PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS WHEN WE ARE REPRESENTING THE BOARD OUT IN PUBLIC. AND MY FINAL THING WOULD BE TO TELL YOU THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AWARDED THE BLACK CREEK PROJECT TODAY. IT IS FULLY FUNDED, $51 MILLION. THEY HAVE ALL OF THE MONEY THEY NEED TO PUT THE PROJECT INTO PLACE AND WITH THE FILTRATION REQUIRED BY EPA. SO THAT PROJECT SHOULD BREAK GROUND IN AUGUST AND EXCITING, IT IS BEING WATCHED, FORMER SENATOR BRADLEY HAS SAID IT IS BEING WATCHED NATIONALLY FOR A PROJECT FIRST OF ITS KIND. SOME REALLY EXCITING TIMES FOR THE WATER ISSUES IN OUR COUNTY. >> THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> JUST TO ADD TO THE BLACK CREEK PROJECT . FORGET WE HAVE KAYAK AS PART OF THE PROJECT BECAUSE THE COUNTY GAVE THEM AN EASEMENT THEY WILL BE DOING A LUNCH FOR US. THAT'S PART OF THAT PROJECT. >> EXCELLENT. >> I'M SURE WE WILL. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNTY MANAGER MENTIONED DID, WE HAD SOME FLOODING WATER TYPE INCIDENTS BETWEEN FRIDAY-MONDAY. THAT FRIDAY STORM LITERALLY I LEFT HERE AND DROVE NORTH AND BY THE TIME I GOT TO THE BLACK CREEK BRIDGE I COULD NOT SEE 1 FOOT INSIDE OF MY IN FRONT OF MY WINDSHIELD. I EXPECT THAT I IMAGINE WE WOULD TOUCH BASE WITH OVER PARTNERS TO CRINKLED SPRINGS JUST LIKE ANY OTHER CONSTITUENT, WHY WE CAN'T GET THE ROADS ON FLOODED. AND I'M SURE THEY WILL RESPOND. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY MANAGER AND CHARLIE FOR WORK ON SATURDAY. WE HAD A LITTLE CONFUSION AS FAR AS PICKING UP RECYCLING AND THEY WERE ON THE SPOT TO GET THAT DONE. AS PART OF THAT I ASKED FOR CHART AND THEY FORWARDED THE CHART. I WAS THERE ON SATURDAY AT 1045 AND I TRIED TO BE AS UNRECOGNIZABLE AS POSSIBLE BUT PEOPLE STILL RECOGNIZE ME AND GAVE ME THINGS ABOUT CYCLING. IT WOULD HELP TO HAVE THAT CHART TO SAY THIS IS WHEN THESE ARE EXPECTED AND I THINK. >> I JUST 129 ALONG WITH RESILIENCY AND STORM WATER, WE SET UP A COMMITTEE WITH THE COUNCIL ON RESILIENCY AND PRIMARILY EMPHASIZING STORMWATER. BUT IT COULD'VE WENT DIFFERENTLY. I ALSO WANT TO -- WANT TO ADVISE EVERYONE WE WENT TO A CONFERENCE IN ORLANDO LAST WEEK, AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT RESILIENCY. I TALKED TO A LOT OF CONTRACTORS ABOUT RESILIENCY. THE OTHER THING, YOU GET A LOT OF THINGS AND YOU DON'T REALIZE YOU WILL GET INFORMATION THAT IS HELPFUL. ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THAT I RECEIVED WAS MEDICATIONS THAT WE [02:15:01] MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT MEDICATIONS THAT OUR EMPLOYEES NEED AND A SOURCE WHERE WE CAN GET THEM CHEAPER THAN NORMAL SO WE WILL INVESTIGATE THAT. ALGAE BLOOM. IT IS WATER RUNOFF. IT IS ALSO THE SEPTIC TANKS. SEVERAL PROJECTS ARE ONGOING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LAKE. HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT ABILITY. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. THEY RUN THE LINES, AND THE RESIDENCE DON'T HAVE THE LOOK OF. ONCE THE SEPTIC FIELDS YOU HAVE IT. BUT THAT COULD BE LONG-TERM. AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE PROBLEMS NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO ABOUT THAT BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT. WHETHER WE CAN HELP ENFORCE THAT OR COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF A REGULATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE PEOPLE TO HOOK UP. ONCE WE EXPEND OF MONEY THE RESOURCES OF THE COMMUNITY AND COUNTY TO PROVIDE SEWER, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD LIKE -- >> I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMISSIONER FROM ORANGE COUNTY AND SHE DID NOT GRANT, AND IT WAS SPECIFICALLY WITH SPRINGS MONEY. BUT THERE MAY BE SOME STATE MONEY THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA. >> I CAN TELL YOU IN ORANGE PARK WE GOT A GRANT FROM THE BOARD OF MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND WITH THE UNDERGROUND, AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT MONEY WE CAN LOOK UP EVERYONE IN ORANGE PARK. IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL, WE WILL HAVE NO SEPTIC TANKS IN THE MUNICIPALITY OF ORANGE PARK. THAT IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING WITH THIS. WE COULD POLLUTANT DOCTOR SLICK DON'T EAT THE FISH, DON'T SWIM, THAT IS THE BENEFIT OF THE PLAGUE. >> COMMISSIONER BEFORE YOU GO FORWARD ON THAT. AND OTHER COMMUNITIES IN ADDITION TO GRANTS, THE FIRST TIME BY, THEY GIVE YOU INCENTIVE TO HOOK UP BECAUSE THEY DO IT AT A LOWER THAN MARKET RATE. I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT. IF WE HAVE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE WITH A GRANT OR SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING WE DO. THEM WHEN THEY COME BACK THE NEXT TIME IT'S ON YOU, AND YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY. IT MAY NOT BE IN TERMS OF FOR SOME PEOPLE BUT INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE PICK. >> THE GRANT IN ORANGE PARK THE COST OF LOOK UP IS 0. THAT IS WHAT YOU COULD DO A GRANT. IT DEPENDS HOW YOU WRITE THEM AND WITH WHOM, WHO IS THE BENEFACTOR. I ALSO WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT JOHN WAS NAMED AS THE DIRECTOR, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CHAMBER AS WELL AS THEIR MOVEMENT. WE APPROVED THEIR LEASE THE RELEASE FROM THEIR LEASE AND THEY MOVED INTO THE TOWN HALL IN ORANGE PARK. I THINK IT WAS LAST WEDNESDAY. I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE HIM AND THE CHAMBER OF ORANGE PARK. THANK YOU. >> CONGRATULATIONS JOHN. I WAS PULLING FOR HIM. >> HE'S A GOOD PIG. HE UNDERSTANDS THE COMMUNITY. I THINK HE WILL BRING AN EVEN HAND TO THAT ORGANIZATION THEY HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THEIR TOP MANAGEMENT. >> YEAH, THAT IS A GOOD FIX. >> . >> MR. CHAIRMAN IF I MAY. THE CHAMBER DID ALLOW ALL OF THE MAJORS DISTRACT MANAGERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SELECTION PROCESS TOO. I WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS. IT WASN'T JUST INTERNAL TO THE CHAMBER. >> THAT IS GOOD NEWS. >> AND I THINK WE ARE WAITING ON INPUT FROM CCUA, WHEN THAT POPS OUT CAN YOU LET US KNOW THAT WE GOT IT, AND I WAS GOING TO CHEW ON YOU ABOUT RECYCLING BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A PLAN. I GOT THREE E-MAILS. WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT DONE, WE ARE IN TROUBLE. ALL * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.