Jun 28, 2022 BCC Agenda

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>> OKAY, LET'S ALL TAKE OUR SEATS PLEASE.

ALL RIGHT, LET US RISE BEFORE THE MEETING STARTS BEFORE THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE. COMMISSIONER BURKE.

>> PLEASE PRAY WITH ME. DEAR LORD THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY AND BRINGING US HERE TONIGHT TO MAKE SOME IMPORTANT DECISIONS REGARDING OUR COUNTY PLEASE GIVE US THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE RIGHT THINGS TO DO THAT WILL BE BEST FOR PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR THE WONDERFUL COUNTY WE LIVE IN AND THANK YOU FOR BLESSING US AND BE WITH THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES AND THOSE IN THE UKRAINE AND ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, MILITARY, AND HELP US TO HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE NIGHT IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY AMEN.

>> THE VETERANS LED PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY PO TWO JOHN RUARK.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THIS. HE WILL NOW DO IS HONOR OF LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

HE RETIRED AFTER 20 YEARS OF SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY. HE IS A GRADUATE OF SURVIVAL, EVASION EXISTENCE ESCAPE SCHOOL AND THE MILITARY POLICE ACADEMY.

HE SERVED DURING DESERT STORM AND THE INVASION OF GRANADA.

DURING HIS NAVY CAREER HE WAS AWARDED THE NAVAL EXPEDITIONARY MEDAL, NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL, ACCOMMODATIONS FOR BATTLE. AND FOR GOOD CONDUCT RIBBON SPIRIT IS A MIDDLEBURG RESIDENT AND VOLUNTEERS WITH THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 250 AT THE CLAY COUNTY VETERANS COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. WHEN YOU ARE READY.

>> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> I WOULD -- YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR THE VETERANS IN THIS COUNTY. OF.

>> I'LL BET OUT OF ALL OF YOUR CERTIFICATIONS YOU REMEMBERED

THE SEARS SCHOOL THE MOST. >> I DO.

>> I WAS ASKED, IS THIS WHERE YOU WANT ME TOO TALK ABOUT THE FIREWORKS? AT THE END.

I WILL PUT IT DOWN THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING

[CALL TO ORDER]

[PET ADOPTIONS]

>> OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS OAKIE A NEUTERED MALE SHEPHERD MIX 2-YEARS-OLD AND WEIGHS 83 POUNDS.

HI I AM OKAY AND AS YOU CAN SEE I'M A HUGE BOY.

I AM GOOFY, FUN-LOVING AND I THINK EVERYONE IS MY FRIEND AND I AM VERY ACTIVE. I KNOW BASIC COMMANDS BUT I NEED HELP WITH LEASH MANNERS. I'M LOOKING FOR AN ACTIVE FAMILIES THAT WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE ME ON THEIR VENTURES AND I NEED A LARGE FENCE TO ROAM AROUND.

HE IS UP TO DATE ON HIS AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. NEXT WE HAVE BLEW A NEUTERED MALE MIXED BREED TEN MONTHS OLD AND WEIGHS 30 POUNDS.

HE IS ONE OF THE SWEETEST BOYS YOU WILL EVER MEET.

HE LOVES EVERYONE AND JUST WANTS TO BE RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE.

E-MAIL SOME BASIC COMMANDS, HE WALKS WELL ON A LEASH AND HE IS LOOKING FOR HIS FOREVER FAMILY TO SNUGGLE AND PLAY WITH.

BLUE IS AN ACTIVE PUPPY AND WILL NEED ROOM TO RUN AND UP GOING TRAINING GOING TRAINING. HE IS UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. OUR FIRST CAT IS HONEY A SPAYED FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR 3-YEARS-OLD.

HONEY IS LOOKING FOR EMPLOYMENT AS A BARN CAT.

SHE PREFERS A LIFE WITH MINIMAL HUMAN CONTACT BUT NEEDS A SAFE PLACE TO CALL HOME. IN RETURN SHE WILL KEEP YOUR BARN CRITTER FREE. SHE HAS HAD HER AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. AND LASTLY WE HAVE A NEUTERED MALE, DOMESTIC MEDIUM HAIR TWO MONTHS OLD, HE HAD A ROUGH START

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HE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HIS VACCINES AND MICROCHIP.

AND IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING PLEASE E-MAIL US AT PLAY ADOPTS I COLLATE.COM OR CALL US AT 904-269-6342 AND CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES OFFERS A COMMUNITY RABIES AND MICROCHIP CLINIC ON THE FIRST THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH.

YOU CAN E-MAIL US AT CLAY COUNTY.COM.

AND FINALLY IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN OUR KITCHEN CREW WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTER'S. PLEASE CONTACT US AT CLAY FOSTER AT CLAY COUNTY GUM.COM AND THAT COMPLETES THE PET ADOPTIONS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HOW IS OUR SCORE GOING, ARE WE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

PRETTY MUCH -- >> I HAVE NOT HEARD.

>> GREAT. OKAY APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF CORRECTIONS BUT THEY HAVE BEEN COMPLETED SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JUNE 14 AS WELL AS THE FINANCE AND AUDIT MEETING FOR JUNE 21.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

IT CARRIES 5-0. NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

I HAVE NO CARDS APPEAR. ANYONE WISHING TO TALK TO US

[CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO PULL? I WOULD LIKE TO PULL FIVE JUST

FOR A QUICK DISCUSSION ON THAT. >> I MOVE APPROVAL WITH THE

EXCEPTION OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE. >> SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

[5.  Acceptance for Final Plat for Recording Discovery Trails (District 2, Commissioner Bolla)]

I ASK ON ITEM FIVE, THAT THE PROPERTY LINES WERE 18 FEET OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON MY COPY. I ASKED CHARISSE IF SHE COULD FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVE DONE

THAT AHEAD OF TIME. >> RICHARD SMITH CLAY COUNTY ENGINEERING. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AND I HAVE THE SITE PLAN THAT SHE WILL SEND OVER TO YOU. THEY ARE 18 FEET WIDE, AND THE LOTS, THEY ARE 4 FEET BACK OFF OF THE STREET.

SO, IT IS KIND OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, MOVED TO MOVE AROUND PARKING IN FRONT OF THE UNIT.

AND A 30-FOOT BACKYARD. >> LOOKING FOR WHERE IT SAYS TOWNHOUSE. I DON'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE.

>> THAT IS OKAY. IT IS A TOWNHOUSE.

BUT THEY HAVE TO BE PLATTED, IT IS THEY OWNED THE DIRT UNDERNEATH THEM. AND THE BUILDING IS CONNECTED

OVER THE PROPERTY LINE? >> THERE IS A FOR UNIT BUILDING

AND 88 UNIT BUILDING. >> SINCE WE HAD A DISCUSSION, I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK THAT QUESTION.

>> IT ALSO INVOLVES HIGH DENSITY STUFF.

THIS IS HOW WE WANT IT TO LOOK. >> OKAY.

I AM GOOD WITH IT SO DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR

[7.  Event Ordinance (C. Grimm/K.Morgan)]

THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM SEVEN. DISCUSSION OF THE EVENT

ORDINANCE. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

THE EVENT ORDINANCE IS UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT FOR YOU ALL.

WE JUST HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO REVIEW AND GIVE

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ON THIS FLIGHT IT GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHO WAS THERE AND WHO HAS BEEN PART OF THIS PROCESS.

THE SHERIFFS OFFICE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, ENGINEERING, PLANNING AND ZONING AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, FACILITIES, BUILDING AND COMMUNICATIONS.

IT IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT PRESENTING THIS TO YOU TONIGHT.

WITH THE FIRST PART WE HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT IT IS.

SO FOR THIS ORDINANCE, THE EVENT IS DEFINED AS HAVING AN EXPECTED ATTENDANCE OF 500 PEOPLE OR GREATER.

IN THE EVENT LESS THAN 500 PEOPLE THIS WILL NOT BE APPLICABLE. IF THE EVENT INVOLVES A ROAD CLOSURE THEY WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT.

ANY THAT INCLUDES ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION ON COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY, INCLUDING THE CLAY COUNTY FAIRGROUNDS AND THE SENIOR CENTER SINCE CENTER. AND THEY HAVE A PRIVATE SPACE

THERE THAT IS AVAILABLE. >> THAT COULD INCLUDE ANY PUBLIC

PARK? >> NO.

SO, OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE ONLY PROVIDES FOR ALCOHOL ON THESE TWO COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES. SO WE ARE MERGING THAT SECTION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PERMITTING PROCESSES.

THIS EVENT WILL ALLOW THOSE TWO PLACES WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH

WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. >> IT INCLUDES ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, INCLUDING THE FAIRGROUNDS --

>> I WILL CHECK. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

THAT, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS. >> I THINK THAT IS THE WAY WE

PHRASED IT ON THE SLIDE. >> IS THERE A REASON WE WOULD

NOT WANT TO DO THAT? >> I GENERALLY DON'T THINK WE WOULD WANT IT ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT IF SOMETHING COMES UP LATER, SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD WE HAVE HAD A GRADUAL RELAXATION. WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE YOU COULD NOT SELL ALCOHOL ON SUNDAY. NOW WE HAVE EVENTS AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND OTHER PLACES THAT WE OKAY.

SO I WAS THINKING THIS IS THE TIME TO CARRY IT TO THE NEXT STEP. AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY NO.

>> THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO CHANGE THAT THE ONLY OTHER PLACE YOU HAVE ALLOWED IT, IS THE PLANTATION WHERE YOU ALLOWED IT.

AND REMEMBER, THE PREVIOUS PROCESS WAS VERY CONTROLLED.

THIS ELIMINATES ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

SO IF YOU WANT TO ADD OTHER COUNTY PROPERTY, WE CAN

CERTAINLY DO THAT. >> WE COULD STILL SAY NO TO

EVERY ONE OF THEM. >> HAS THERE BEEN A REQUEST IN

THE PAST? >> ONLY FOR PREP PLANTATION,

CONCERT ON THE GREEN. >> AND THERE HAVE BEEN WEDDINGS, BUT -- I THINK WE ARE PRECLUDED FROM HAVING ALCOHOL THERE.

>> PRECLUDED BY WHAT? WHERE WE CONVEYED THE PROPERTY.

I WOULD NOT SUGGEST YOU OPEN IT TO COUNTY AND PROPERTY, THERE ARE OTHER FACILITIES, WE JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE HAVING A PARTY , -- UNLESS PERMITTED, THEY DOES IT HAVE TO BE MENTIONED IN

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MOVING IT OVER. >> DID WE DO A SPECIAL ONE-OFF PERMIT OR WAIVER FOR THE CONCERT ON THE GREEN? WHY WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME WITH THAT?

>> THEY WOULD STILL HAVE AN OPTION WHETHER IT IS IN HERE OR NOT. THEY CAN STILL DO THAT.

>> GRADE, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LOT OF REQUESTS OVER THE YEARS SINCE WE DID APPROVE SERVING ALCOHOL, OTHER THAN I WOULD LEAVE IT AS IS THAT IS MY THOUGHT PROCESS.

>> THEY WOULDN'T HAVE IT EVERY OTHER SATURDAY I DON'T HAVE A PREFERENCE I DON'T KNOW. IF THEY KNEW THEY HAD A SPECIAL ASK WE ARE SLOWLY SLIDING DOWN THE HILL WE JUST NEED DIRECTION BECAUSE WE ARE ADVERTISING TO BRING IT IT BACK BEFORE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING SO WE NEED TO SHAPE THE ORDINANCE.

IF IT IS YOUR PREFERENCE TO SAY A ONE OFF THEY COULD COME AND APPLY FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT, IT JUST DEPENDS.

IF YOU HAVE AN INVITED GUEST LIST TO YOUR FUNCTION AT EACH PLACE YOU CAN HAVE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.

PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO IT MAY BE A LITTLE EASIER FOR THEM TO SAY THEY CAN USE THIS FOR A WEDDING AND WE CAN RAISE MORE REVENUE FOR THE PARKS. AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS, WHEN YOU GET TO COUNTY PROPERTY, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE IS FOOD SERVED ALONG WITH THE ALCOHOL.

IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, THAT IS A GOOD PLAN.

>> I WILL STAY WITH THAT, THAT IS A GOOD PLAN.

I DON'T KNOW, LET'S SEE HOW THIS GOES.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GET INTO --

>> I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND ALCOHOL IS NOT ALLOWED AND MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST.

YOU SAY IT IS DEED RESTRICTED BUT TWO WEEKENDS AGO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE CAN BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL IN THE TRASHCAN. THE PUBLIC, I THINK IT'S BETTER OFF, -- PERSONALLY THAT'S MY THOUGHT.

>> I THINK WE ARE OPENING UP A BAD THING, WITH BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND IT JUST DOES NOT SOUND RIGHT TO ME.

>> AND THEN THEY ARE WALKING THROUGHOUT THE PARK.

THEY WON'T STAY IN THAT AREA. >> LITTLE KIDS THERE.

>> THE CONSENSUS IS TO LEAVE IT ALONE.

>> OKAY. THE NEXT PHASE OF THE EVENT

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THAT DEFINES A COMPLEX EVENT. THE EXEMPTIONS FOR THE EVENT ORDINANCE ARE ANY EVENTS SPONSORED OR APPROVED BY A PRIVATE INSTITUTION CONDUCTED ON PROPERTY OWNED BY THE INSTITUTION. AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE ST. JOHN'S DAY. THIS WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM HAVING TO ALL OF THE SCHOOL PLAYERS IT HAS 1,000 PEOPLE OR MORE IF THEY HAD THOSE FOUR THINGS AND 500 PEOPLE.

>> UNLESS IT IS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT IF THEY HAD THOSE FOUR THINGS.

>> THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET A PERMIT.

SO WHAT ABOUT THE CARNIVAL THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ON LANDING BOULEVARD HAS. IT'S ON PROPERTY BUT I IMAGINE IT UTILIZES FOOT TRAFFIC SOME OF OUR SERVICES.

>> THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET A PERMIT BECAUSE OF THE HIGH

INTENSITY. >> AND THE TEMPORARY STRUCTURES.

>> OKAY, I HAVE YOU. >> IF THEY HAD THOSE THINGS THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT OR BECAUSE IT IS AN EDUCATIONAL

INSTITUTION. >> IT DEPENDS ON IF THE EVENT WAS A STATE COLLEGE EVENT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A PERMIT.

>> THAT WOULD ALSO COVER THE AUTO SALES THAT COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN AND SET UP IN THE PARKING LOT.

>> THAT IS ASSUMING, THEY WOULD FALL UNDER THAT REGARDLESS UNLESS IT WAS A NONPROFIT. IF THEY HAVE A VENDOR LISTS, THEY SHOULD HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, A PARKING PLAN, THEY SHOULD HAVE A TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND EGRESS AND INGRESS STRATEGY. THEY SHOULD HAVE WASTE MANAGEMENT PLANS. THEY SHOULD KNOW THE OUTDOOR NOISE LEVELS. MOST TYPE OF THINGS.

EVERYTHING WITHIN THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR OPERATING THIS EVENT IS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FROM AN OPERATING STANDPOINT. WE ARE NOT ASKING THEM TO DO ANYTHING EXTRA. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR

>> I DO IN TERMS OF -- THEY MAKE UP THAT DETERMINATION AS WELL MANY PEOPLE THEY WILL HAVE, WHAT IF THEY WILL BE OVER 1,000 OR

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FRONT THE EXPENSES. >> THIS GIVES US A GENERAL AWARENESS OF THE EVENTS HAPPENING AND THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY VISIBILITY ON THAT. SO SINCE THE 1ST QUARTER OF THE YEAR, WE CREATED THE EVENT COORDINATION COMMITTEE AND IT IS MADE UP OF THAT TEAM OF 13 DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THAT DOES, IT ELSE US UNDERSTAND THE FULL SCOPE AND WE CAN MITIGATE THAT AND KNOW THAT, THIS EVENT MAY CROSS OVER AND WILL -- WE WILL MAKE THAT DECISION ON WHAT TO DO IN THE EVENT THAT DOES HAPPEN.

>> WE DO HAVE A PROVISION THAT IF YOU BECOME AWARE LIKE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND COUNTY MANAGER CAN MODIFY THE PERMIT ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

>> WE WILL REQUIRE IN ANY EVENT THAT IS CONSIDERED COMPLEX TO WORK WITH THAN HIGHER PUBLIC LAW ENFORCEMENT SERVICES, FIRE RESCUE AND IF IT IS NECESSARY, A MANAGEMENT TEAM.

ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THESE ARE THE FACILITIES THAT ARE COUNTY OWNED WHERE IT IS ALLOWED. WHEN WE BRING THIS TO YOU AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, THERE WILL BE A REPEAL FOR THE ALCOHOL ORDINANCE SO THIS CAN TAKE ITS PLACE.

AND THEN, WITH PENALTIES AND ENFORCEMENT, NONCOMPLIANCE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) CLOSURE OF THE OF THE EVENT.

WE WILL HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TOM THE AUTHORITY TO SHUT DOWN THAT EVENT. IT COULD RESULT IN A MISDEMEANOR AND OR 500-DOLLAR FINE. FROM TH OR FOR THE EVENT ORGANIZER AND THEIR ORGANIZATION.

AND CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES HAVE JURISDICTION OVER SOME AREAS OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE PERMIT. SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM

CLOSELY AS WELL. >> AND THE PERMIT IS HOW MUCH?

>> WE ARE PROPOSING A 100-DOLLAR PERMIT FEE IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE EVENTS OF THE SAME STRUCTURE AND THE SAME OPERATIONS, IT WOULD BE 150 AND WE WOULD GRANDFATHER ALL OF THAT IN.

IF IT IS COMPLEX, WE ARE ASKING FOR $150 FEE.

IT WAS ONE OF THOSE HARD DECISIONS THAT WE HAD TO COME UP WITH. WE KNEW THIS WOULD REQUIRE PAYMENT OF SERVICES IN SOME CASES AND WE WANTED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE EVENT PLANNERS SO THEY WOULDN'T INCUR COSTS THAT THEY TRADITIONALLY WOULD NOT OCCUR.

WE DO NOT WANT TO MAKE THIS OUT OF RANGE OR OUT OF BUDGET SO THEY DON'T HAVE EVENTS HERE SO WE WANTED TO KEEP IT REASONABLE

ENOUGH TO MEET. >> THIS ALLOWS YOU TO DO THINGS LIKE TO REVIEW THE AMOUNT OF SHERIFF'S DIRECTION FOR THINGS LIKE THE STRAWBERRY FESTIVAL WHICH HAVE BEEN ENORMOUS, BUT IT HAS BEEN A TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE. THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO SAYÚWH.

>> RATHER THAN THE EVENT ORGANIZER PROPOSING IT, THEY

REQUIRED. >> THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT TO YOUR PLAN, AND ALL OF YOU I ASSUME WILL REVIEW YOUR SELECTIONS AND GIVE A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN.

>> AND BUSINESS HAS PERSONNEL AND THEY DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN

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I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DEFINITION DESCRIBING THE DIFFERENCE.

>> WE JUST RECEIVED SOME CHANGES AND WE WILL CHANGE IT FROM TIER ONE TO TIER TWO AND THEY WILL DETERMINE WHAT LEVEL.

AND A LOT OF IT I THINK IS BASED ON ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.

>> WE WILL CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. >> JUST THE WORD PASSIVE AND ACTIVE WILL BE CHANGED. BAY BEING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE

WILL DETERMINE IT. >> WE WILL DEFINE IT IN THE ORDINANCE -- I DON'T KNOW, TWO TERMS ARE NOT DEFINED SO I DON'T

KNOW WHAT IT MEANT. >> THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WILL BE LEFT TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND THE RECOMMENDATION. >> ARE THERE ANY PROVISIONS TO ESCROW THE MONEY FOR THE OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS AHEAD

OF TIME. >> THAT IS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE LEFT FOR THE EVENT COORDINATION COMMITTEE TO DECIDE, IT IS HOW PAYMENT IS DONE.

SOMETIMES IT MAY BE DONE IN A DEPOSIT, THERE MAY BE A DEPOSIT OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO SECURE THIS HAPPENING AND IT IS UP TO THE COMMITTEE TO DECIDE HOW THE PAYMENT PROCESS WORKS.

>> THAT IS A CHANGE WE WORK WITH THAT THEY WILL HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE BASED ON THE EVENT COORDINATION COMMITTEE AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THEY MAY REQUIRE PAYMENT UPFRONT EVEN

THIRD THE FULL AMOUNT OR -- >> THAT IS AN ARBITRARY WAY TO

DO IT. >> I ALSO THINK DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF EVENT AND THE DEMAND, THERE MAY BE OCCASIONS WHERE THERE ARE SPECIAL EVENTS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.

AND THAT PAYMENT MAY BE REQUIRED FOR THE GROUPS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE WHAT THEY NEED AND THAT MAY REQUIRE A DEPOSIT.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. AND WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH EVERY SCENARIO TO LOOK AT THIS ORDINANCE, AND TO POKE HOLES IN IT, AND THE EVENT COORDINATION COMMITTEE HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY, GIVES US A LITTLE MORE OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF WHAT THOSE EVENTS BRING.

>> THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE, I KNOW WE HAD ANY EVENT WHERE THE POLICE DID NOT GET PAID BECAUSE THE EVENT FLOPPED.

I CAN SEE A SITUATION WHERE YOU WANT AND EVENT TO HAPPEN SO WE WAVE THEIR FEES AND TOOK A 10-DOLLAR DEPOSIT AND ANOTHER SITUATION WHERE WE WERE NOT ENAMORED WITH THE EVENT AND WE MADE THEM PAY EVERYTHING UPFRONT WHICH I DON'T THINK IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO BUSINESS. THAT IS WHERE I AM TRYING TO GO

WITH THIS. >> STANDARD POLICY, HOW DO WE

HANDLE IT? >> RIGHT NOW WE ARE AT A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT EVENTS WILL NEED CERTAIN TYPES OF SERVICES. I WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A TEST. WITH THIS AND CONSTANTLY REVISIT THIS ORDINANCE FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS THAT WE DO THIS, SO WE ARE IN A LEARNING CURVE RIGHT NOW WITH THIS, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK AND HOMEWORK ON PUTTING IT TOGETHER BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE JUST NEED SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SOME OF THOSE AREAS SO WE KNOW WHAT IT IS BRINGING TO THE TABLE.

>> SPECIFICALLY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, THEY IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT INTO ANOTHER WAIVER I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

>> IF THE COPS DON'T GET PAID, WHO PAYS THEM, YOU OUT OF YOUR BUDGET? I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR OFF-DUTY

THING WORKS. >> LEGALLY, I DON'T HAVE TO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, WE FINALLY GOT PAID, WHEN WAS THAT, FIVE YEARS AGO, EVERYONE GOT PAID AND I FOUND OUT THE PROMOTER WAS

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WE WILL KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE ASKED FOR A DEPOSIT. WE WANT A DEPOSIT OF THE MONEY AHEAD OF THE TIME SO THE FIREMEN AND POLICE WORKING CAN GET PAID.

THEY WILL LITERALLY ALL THOSE CHECKS BACK AND THERE IS NOTHING

LEGALLY WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. >> WILL MY ISSUE IS HOW DO WE MAKE THAT CONSISTENT. I SEE SOME -- WE ARE ALL GOOD GUYS, BUT AT SOME POINT, I SEE SOME POSSIBILITIES HERE.

>> MY SUGGESTION IS, IF THIS IS LEGAL, COURTNEY, FOR THE FIRST TIME PERMIT REQUESTED THEY DO A DEPOSIT AND IF EVERYTHING GOES TO PLAN THEY CAN WAIVE THE DEPOSIT FOR FUTURE EVENTS.

>> FROM ALL OF US MEETING TOGETHER, ONE OF THE EVENTS THAT MAY OCCUR ARE EVENTS THAT HAVE PROCEEDS OF THE EVENT TO BE ABLE TO PAY. WE WERE TRYING TO WAY -- I THINK, THIS HANDLES THE ROAD CLOSURES, THOSE EVENTS WOULD NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY -- SO WE WERE TRYING TO BALANCE THAT.

>> WE CAN DO A NOMINAL GOOD FAITH DEPOSIT OF SOME SORT, IF THEY REALLY WANT THE EVENT THEY WILL COME UP WITH THE MONEY TO

HOLD IT. >> WE CAN WORD IT OUT FOR YOU LIKE WE JUST AND WANT TO EXCLUDE CERTAIN EVENTS UNLESS IT COMES TO THE BOARD OR COMMITTEE HAS A MAJORITY VOTE.

I HEAR YOU. BUT WE HAD THE FAIR -- EVERY YEAR AND THEN WE HAVE THESE POP-UP EVENTS, THESE CARNIVALS OR WHATEVER THAT SAY, WE WILL HAVE TEN DEPUTIES HERE AND THEY COULD LITERALLY PACK UP THE LAST DAY AND LEAVE AND NEVER HEAR FROM THEM AGAIN. AND SO FOR ME THE PEOPLE WITH A HISTORY IN THE COMMUNITY OF DOING THE RIGHT THING, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY CAN

LEAVE. >> WHO ULTIMATELY IS ON THE HOOK, BUT ONE WE TALKED ABOUT, DID YOU PAY YOUR PEOPLE RIGHT

AWAY? >> OR DID THE INDIVIDUAL POLICE

HAVE TO -- >> WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE THE INDIVIDUAL POLICE WERE GOING BACK TO THE PROMOTER THING CAN I GET MY MONEY AND THEY WERE BEING TOLD NO. PROBABLY ABOUT ONE YEAR INTO MY TERM, I'D LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I WANTED THESE PEOPLE TO GET PAID, AND I HEARD THEY HAD GOTTEN SOME ART MONEY.

SO I HAD MY LEGAL COUNSEL DRAFT A LETTER, BASICALLY STATING I KNOW YOU GOT THIS MONEY AND YOU NEED TO PAY.

THEY FINALLY CAME THROUGH AND PAID.

>> BUT THE INDIVIDUALS WERE HOLDING THE BILL, NOT THE

DEPARTMENT? >> THE INDIVIDUALS WERE.

>> YES OKAY. >> BUT YOU KNOW THAT GOES BACK TO, I'M GOING TO USE CARNIVAL. IF THE CARNIVAL COMES IN AND THEY HIRE TEN DEPUTIES PER NIGHT FOR FIVE NIGHTS, AND THEY LEAVE, NOW THESE GUYS ARE OLD MONEY, SHOULD I THE CLAY COUNTY TAXPAYERS BE PAYING THEM WHEN A PROMOTER CAME IN AND TOOK ALL OF THE PROCEEDS AND THAT DOES HAPPEN.

IT HAS NOT HAPPENED SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE BUT I HAVE SEEN IT

HAPPEN. >> IF THE COMMITTEE MADE THE DECISION NOT TO TRANSFER THE MONEY IN ADVANCE, I THINK IT IS ON THE COMMITTEE THAN. IT IS A PROBLEM.

I SEE IT -- I SEE MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH MAKING PEOPLE PAINT THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO KEEP THEM OUT THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

IT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD. >> HERE'S THE THING IF A PROMOTER COMES IN A DON'T PAY THEIR BILLS THEY DON'T GET TO DO ANOTHER EVENT AND CLAY COUNTY BUT WE MAY BE ON THE HOOK FOR A LOT OF MONEY TO PAY OUR PEOPLE. IN THIS DAY AND TIME MY SON JUST

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EVERYWHERE YOU GO THERE WERE DEPOSITS.

I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY YOU WOULD CHARGE A DEPOSIT ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO WOULD GET PAID, THEY HAD TO WAIT FIVE YEARS, SERIOUSLY. THAT IS INSANE.

I AM SORRY, THAT IS BUSINESS TO ME.

>> AGAIN, IT IS REALLY FOR THE GROUPS, NONPROFITS.

I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST THE COMMITTEE THAT DISCUSSION FOR

THE COMMITTEE. >> IS THERE A WAY TO DIFFERENTIATE, CLUMP THE MEN, I DON'T KNOW, THIS SHOULD NOT

HAPPEN ON THE REGULAR. >> MAYBE I WILL DO SOMETHING WITH THE NONPROFIT STATUS OR IF THEY HIRE UNDER FIVE DEPUTIES, MAYBE JUST A STRAIGHT SMALL DEPOSIT.

IF IT'S OVER FIVE THEY HAVE TO PAY A PORTION -- AGAIN IT COULD

BE REASONABLE. >> AND TRY TO MAKE IT CONSISTENT UNTIL WE GET STIFF, THEN WE WILL REQUIRE ONE 100%.

BUT GOING INTO THIS THING, THE WAY I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IS 10%, 20%, 50% FOR EVERYBODY, AND IF YOU TREAT US WRONG WE WILL TREAT YOU WRONG. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW

UP FRONT. >> AND DO YOU WANT THAT TO BE A DEPOSIT FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT?

>> WE WILL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THAT OUT.

>> G■O AHEAD. >> AND THE COORDINATION COMMITTEE THE SHERIFF WAS THERE, WHAT ABOUT SCHOOL PLACEMENT WE JUST HELD FREEDOM FAST AND I TELL YOU WHAT, I SAW A LOT OF SCHOOL BOYS THERE. WHOSE COMMAND STRUCTURE DO THEY

FALL UNDER? >> HOURS.

TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS, IF WE HAVE AN EVENT I PUT OUT THE EVENT NOTICE TO MY PERSONNEL FIRST TO FILL THE SPOTS.

IF WE CANNOT FILL THE SPOTS, THEN I REACH OUT TO THE THREE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DO A FORMAL REQUEST FOR SPECIAL EVENTS WHICH IS ALLOWABLE UNDER STATE STATUTE.

THE SCHOOL BOARD POLICE CANNOT NEGOTIATE OFF-DUTY WORK FOR AN EVENT OR LOCATION OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BRING COLD CANNOT GO INTO THE ORANGE PARK MALL AND WORK OFF DUTY UNLESS THE SHERIFFS ASKED FOR THE HELP AND THAT IS IN THE STATUTE. BUT WE HAD A BUSY WEEKEND SO

THEY STEPPED UP. >> THERE WERE A LOT OF BLACK

PATROL CARS -- >> YES AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC HELPING US OUT.

WE ARE SEEING A LOT MORE SPECIAL EVENTS COMING THROUGH.

>> WHAT IS THE LEAD TIME ON THE PERMIT.

>> COURTNEY YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION I DON'T KNOW THE RIGHT ANSWER, BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS ON A FARM.

BUT WE HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT GO ON, THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS COMPLEX EVENTS OR MEET THE THRESHOLD FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE. HOW CAN WE, MY REQUEST WOULD BE, HOW CAN WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO A PERMIT EVEN IF IT IS FOR FREE SO YOU CAN DO THE NUMBER OF -- ROAD CLOSURE I GUESS, WITH FIRE RESCUE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

>> THE STATUTE IS CLEAR, WE CANNOT REGULATE ANY OF THAT.

OUR HOPE IS THAT YES, THEY WOULD HAVE A PERMIT BUT THERE ARE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND OTHERS FOR COMPLEX EVENTS.

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO IMPOSE ANY OF THAT ON THEM.

THE INSTANCE WE WOULD IS IF THERE WAS AN OFF-SITE IMPACT.

IF IT IS MESSING UP TRAFFIC ALONG 16 OR 21, THEN AT THAT POINT WE WOULD HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY OR LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT WE COULD NOT IMPOSE IT ON THEIR EVENT.

IT WOULD ONLY BE WITH OFFSET IMPACTS.

>> COULD YOU TAKE ACTION -- SO, SAY FOR INSTANCE ( INDISCERNIBLE

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THEIR LAND. >> ON THEIR LAND, OKAY.

WHAT IF THEY IMPACT OTHER LAND OWNERS?

>> SO FOR THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE THEY ARE GOING DOWN A PRIVATE ROAD THAT THEY HAVE EASEMENT TO BUT THEY DON'T OWN, BUT THAT'S A PRIVATE ROAD SO IT WOULDN'T BE FOR US.

IT WOULD BE FOR THE COUNTY. >> AND IT APPLIES TO ALL OF THE BARN WEDDING LOCATIONS AND ANY KIND OF FESTIVAL, FLEAMARKET,.

>> THE LEGISLATION USED TO BE IT -- YOU HAD TO HAVE A ACCURATE TESSERACT FARM THEY HAVE DELETED THAT WORD AGRICULTURE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AG LAND YOU CAN HAVE IT.

IT IS VERY BROAD. >> I AM HOPEFUL WE WILL PUT IT ON OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES THIS YEAR TOO, I ADVOCATE THAT THEY DRAW THAT. I HAVE A NUMBER OF EVENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT THAT ARE DISRUPTIVE, THEY ARE PROBABLY PROFITABLE FOR THE LANDOWNERS BUT DISRUPTIVE TO

THEIR NEIGHBORS. >> I KNOW ONE IS NOISE.

BUT I ASSUME THE HOPE IS YOU OWN ENOUGH LAND THAT WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR ACTIVITY IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR NEIGHBOR.

>> THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I HAVE HEARD HIS TRAFFIC AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROAD BEING ABLE TO CALL FOR SHERIFF ASSISTANCE OR FIRE AND RESCUE OF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, NOT FOR THE PEOPLE NECESSARILY AT THE EVENT.

>> BUT I ALSO KNOW LIKE THE CHIEF SAID HE WOULD STAGE AN AMBULANCE CLOSER BY IF HE KNEW IN ADVANCE -- ANY EVENT WAS CLOSER BY SO HE COULD RESPOND BUT TRAFFIC IS THE BIGGEST

COMPLAINT THAT I HEAR. >> AND AS LONG AS IT IS ON A COUNTY ROAD OR STATE ROAD WE CAN OFFSET THAT SERVICE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU SHERIFF, SO THAT IS ALL YOU HAD? WE WILL WORK ON THE REVISIONS AND COME UP WITH A GAME PLAN AND OUR HOPE IS TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU AT THE FIRST JULY MEETING SO WE CAN GET IT ROLLING SO EVENTS OCCURRING AFTER NOVEMBER 1 WILL COMPLY WITH IT.

[8.  Universal Collection Assessment Rate Decision]

>> UNIVERSAL COLLECTION ASSESSMENT.

WE HAVE 10 MINUTES. >> GOOD ONE.

>> GOOD EVENING CHAIR COMMISSIONER SPIRIT ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. AS YOU SAID WE WILL DISCUSS OUR RATE FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 22-23.

SO WHAT IS BEFORE YOU THE FIRST SLIDE AND RECOMMENDED THAT WE ADJUST THE RATE TO $161 PER YEAR.

THIS REFLECTS A 55-CENT INCREASE OR A TOTAL OF $6.50 FOR THE YEAR. NOW, THE REASON FOR THIS NUMBER IS $161 IS THE CURRENT MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE RATE.

IT IS THE CEILING THAT WAS SET WHEN THIS ASSESSMENT WAS INITIATED. SO, WE ARE ASKING TO GO TO THE MAXIMUM RATE AND BE BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR WHEN WE HAVE BETTER NUMBERS ON THE COST AND THE INDEX CEILING OR DO WE CONTINUE TO USE THE CEILING METHOD. FOR NOW, WHAT WE ARE UNDER, EVEN WITH THAT, OF COURSE, RESPECTFUL TO THE INDIVIDUAL, A RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF IS THAT WE DON'T APPLY A RECYCLING

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THE REALITY IS, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT AND THE PROJECTIONS ARE MADE WITH THE RECYCLING CREDIT APPLIED.

SO THE EXPECTED REVENUE FOR NEXT YEAR SHOWS THE ASSESSMENT RATE WITHOUT CREDIT THUS THE EFFECTIVE RATE WOULD BE $138.29.

WHICH IS LESS THAN OUR EXPECTED EXPENSES MEANING WE WOULD USE $720,000 OF RESERVES FOR THE NEXT YEAR IN THIS SCENARIO.

SO, THIS SLIDE IS BASICALLY THE SAME ASSUMPTION JUST MOVING OUT TO FISCAL YEAR 23-24. ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL.

IT SHOWS WITH CONTINUED COST INCREASES WITH INFLATION AND FUEL, THAT WE WOULD USE A CONSIDERABLY LARGER AMOUNT OF RESERVES, IF WE CONTINUE THIS FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR.

THUS PRETTY MUCH ELIMINATING OUR RESERVE FUNDS.

WE ARE GUESSING ON WHAT INFLATION WILL BE TWO AND HALF YEARS NOW FOR THIS NUMBER SO THE $419,000 THAT WE ARE SHOWING, MAY OR MAY NOT BE WHAT HAPPENS. SO HERE IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE ASSESSMNT RATE WITH THE RATE WOULD BE SEEN ON THE TAX BILL THIS NOVEMBER. THIS IS EXACTLY HOW IT LOOKED LAST YEAR EXCEPT THE CREDIT WAS ONLY FOR SEVEN WEEKS.

THIS IS ASSUMING THE CREDIT, IF WE DON'T RESUME RECYCLING THROUGH SEPTEMBER, THE CREDIT WOULD BE 2271 AND SHOWN IN THIS MANNER. BUT TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO BE COLLECTED WITH THE DISPOSAL WOULD BE $210.29.

AND OUR CURRENT TOTAL IS $226.44.

SO THE CREDIT DEFINITELY HAS THAT IMPACT.

SO IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT INCREASED COST, ONE IS OUR FUEL ADJUSTMENTS.

I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE INCEPTION OF THIS COLLECTION AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL BEGIN SERVICE JANUARY 2007 THROUGH 2021, THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT WAS ALWAYS CREDIT IN THE COUNTY'S FAVOR. THE FIRST TIME -- THAT ADJUSTMENT BECAME A SURCHARGE WAS IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR END WE ARE PROJECTING IT TO BE A RATHER LARGE SURCHARGE THIS NEXT MONTH. THIS IS CALCULATED BASED ON A BASE FUEL RATE WHICH DOES CHANGE EACH YEAR WITH CPI INCREASE AND THE INFLATIONARY INDEX SO THIS MOVES THE BASE RATE AND THEN, THE AVERAGE PRICE PER SHARE GALANT IS THE AVERAGE OF THE 26 WEEKS PRIOR. IT IS A SIX WEEK AVERAGE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) IN THE SOUTH REGION FOR THE 26 WEEKS PRIOR.

>> ARE YOU USING A BASE RATE ON DIESEL OIL OF $3.305 PER GALLON?

>> THAT IS WHAT IT WAS FOR JANUARY, YES OR.

>> IN YOUR PROJECT IN JULY IT IS ( INDISCERNIBLE ) QUICKSAND YES,

SIR. >> AND THAT IS NOWHERE NEAR

REAL, CORRECT? >> NO WHERE NEAR REAL BUT IT IS THAT PRICE BASED ON INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENTS WHICH IS BASED ON THE CPI. THAT IS ONLY GOING TO REFLECT FUEL -- MARGINALIZED. AND THAT IS THE CONTRACT METHOD.

>> IT GIVES US A REAL BREAK AT LEAST TODAY?

>> IT HAS UP UNTIL NOW. >> BUT IN 24, WHEN YOU

RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT? >> THE NUMBER WOULD BE RESET.

>> WE USE A REAL NUMBER. >> AND GENERALLY SO, WHEN WERE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE CONTRACTS, YU'RE GOING TRAVEL FUEL

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I DON'T SEE HOW TO DO THAT. YOU HAVE THE ADJUSTMENT WORK BOTH WAYS. ON BASE RATE.

THAT WAY IF THE FUEL DOES GO DOWN, THEY CAN TAKE HOLD ON THE

INCREASE COSTS. >> THE FINAL SLIDE IS A SUMMARY OF THE FIRST TWO SLIDE SHOWING ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL.

IF WE MOVE THROUGH THE MAXIMUM RATE OF $61, AND WITH THE ESTIMATE WE WILL BEGIN OCTOBER 1 WITH A FUND BALANCE AND THE UNIVERSAL COLLECTION FUND OF TWO AND HALF MILLION DOLLARS AND WITH THOSE TWO ASSUMPTIONS, THIS CHARGE SHOWS WHAT THE FUND BALANCE WOULD BE PROJECTED TO BE WITH AND WITHOUT THE CREDIT, AND THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS THE AMOUNT OF CREDIT.

SO IF THE BOARD CHOOSES TO APPLY FOR CREDIT THIS YEAR FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR, THEN WE WOULD BE CREDITING TO THE TUNE OF $1.5 MILLION. THAT MEANS FOR THE FUND IT IS THAT MUCH LESS REVENUE IN THE FUND.

BECAUSE WE WILL NOT COLLECT THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND WITH THAT I RECOMMEND THE BOARD APPROVE THE 161-DOLLAR ASSESSMENT FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

THAT IS A SLIGHT INCREASE. AT PRESENT WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR THAT RECYCLING SERVICE THE CHARGE IS BEING DEDUCTED FROM THE INVOICES BEFORE WE PAY OUR SERVICE PROVIDER, BUT THE REST OF THE SERVICES, THE YARD TRASH FEST CONTINUED TO GO UP.

I WOULD REMIND ABORT THE CURRENT RATE FOR THE ASSESSMENT OF $154.44 IS THE SAME RATE WE WERE PAYING IN 2010.

SO, JUST FOR A PROSPECTIVE. THAT IS ALL I HAVE A LESS

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> SOLD MILTON, THE FUEL ADJUSTMENT IS THAT ON TOP OF THE 161 THAT WE ARE PAYING? WHERE DOES THAT NUMBER SIT?

>> THE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL AN ADDITIONAL

$221 ON TOP OF THAT? >> YES, SIR.

AND THERE IS THE UNKNOWN, LIKE THE 161, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE SETTING OUR ASSESSMENT. MOST OF THOSE ARE EXPENSES.

NEXT YEAR THE $10 MILLION, ALL BUT $370,000 OF THAT IS PASSED THROUGH TO THE CONTRACTOR. THE OTHER $370,000 ARE ADMIN SERVICES SO IT PAYS THE TAX COLLECTOR FEES TO COLLECT THE ASSESSMENTS. IT PAYS PERCENTAGES THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO WORKING WITH THIS FUND AND CURBSIDE SERVICES AND SOLID WASTE INSPECTORS SO ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AND AND THE OTHER ADMINISTRATION EXPENSES WHICH ONLY AMOUNTS TO THREE AND HALF% OF THAT $10 MILLION. THE REST OF THAT IS A PASS-THROUGH DIRECTLY TO THE CONTRACTOR AND IT SLOWS COST BETTER GOING OUT. THIS BUDGET IS BUILT WITH A 7% INFLATION ESTIMATE, AND SOME OF THE FUEL CHARGE ESTIMATE.

IT HAS CAUGHT UP WITH US ON WHAT THE RATES THAT REMAIN LOW OVER

THIS NUMBER OF YEARS. >> I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE KEEP THE NUMBERING TERMS OF RECYCLING BUT I THINK WE MADE A COMMITMENT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, TAXPAYERS THAT WE WOULD REBATE THAT MONEY IF WE DID NOT USE IT.

AT THIS POINT IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TO PAY WASTE MANAGEMENT TO PICK UP THE

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SO WHEN YOU COME BACK AGAIN AND YOU ARE LOOKING TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE SO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO COLLECT MORE THAN 161 WHICH IS THE NUMBER YOU ARE USING, AT THAT TIME I THINK WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON HOW HIGH IT NEEDS TO BE OR HOW MUCH WE NEED TO BREAK EVEN AND TO REPLENISH THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS SO WE CAN HAVE A RESERVE TO HANDLE ANY INCREASED COSTS, I THINK THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY. WE DID THIS SO AS SMALL AS IT IS, THE COST IS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SEE.

WHAT IS IT $13.11 AND. >> EXCUSE ME, THIS MONEY WITH THE CREDIT APPLIED, THE NET $138, IS GOING TO EQUATE TO $11.52 PER MONTH WHICH IS ALMOST EQUAL TO WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING THE CONTRACTOR. AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE NEED TO LOOK AT CHANGING THAT. BUT WE MADE A COMMITMENT I THINK

WE NEED TO STICK WITH IT. >> WE UNDERSTAND THAT AND WE PRESENTED IT IN HERE. THE PLAN WOULD BE FOR THE FUTURE, FOR NEXT YEAR, WE GET TO THIS POINT NEXT YEAR, WE HOPE TO HAVE RESPONSES TO THE RFP THAT WILL HAVE RATES, WE ARE WATCHING WHAT IS GOING ON WHAT IS AROUND US AND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE STATE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE NEGOTIATING CONTRACT EXTENSIONS AND WE ARE KEEPING UP WITH THOSE.

BUT THE RFP WILL GIVE US SOME PROPOSED RATES THAT WILL BE SPECIFIC TO CLAY COUNTY. AND THAT WILL US IN A BETTER POSITION NEXT YEAR IS TO MAKE SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHERE THE ASSESSMENTS NEED TO GO IN THE FUTURE.

>> WE KNOW WHERE IT IS GOING. >> IT IS GOING TO INCREASE, WE

JUST DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER. >> INSTEAD OF TAKING AN AVERAGE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE WILL HAVE SOME PROPOSE RATES SPECIFIC TO US. AND I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE. CANCEL COMPARED TO THE REST OF

FLORIDA, HOW DO WE STAND,. >> WE HAVE A GOOD DEAL RIGHT NOW AS I SAID OUR RATES HAVE BEEN ADJUSTED UPWARDS THE LAST FEW YEARS BY AN AVERAGE OF LESS THAN 2% PER YEAR BECAUSE OF THE INSTALLATION CALCULATIONS AND IT HAS BEEN VERY MILD.

IT WILL CHANGE THIS YEAR, BOAT WHAT WE ARE SEEING FROM RECENT ARTICLES THIS YEAR, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON TO BE $30 OF $32 PER MONTH. RIGHT NOW, THIS WILL PUT US AT $19. SO WE ARE STILL SUBSTANTIALLY

PAYING TODAY. >> AFTER THE CONTRACT EXPIRES, THE RATES WILL GO UP A FACTOR OF 200-3 100%.

>> YES. >> IT IS A GUESS, BUT I THINK IT

IS VERY REASONABLE. >> THEY JUST REDID THEIRS AND IT WENT FROM $20 TO ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

TRYING TO PUT OURS OUT EARLY. AND LOOK AT DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE AS SOME OF THESE, THEY MET WITH A REPRESENTATIVE.

THEY ARE IN A LEGAL BATTLE BACK AND FORTH WITH THEIR CONTRACTOR NOT KIDDING SERVICE ON GARBAGE AND THE NEW CONTRACT WHICH GOES INTO EFFECT IN SEPTEMBER IS A 50% RATE INCREASE, AND A 50%

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$423 PER YEAR. >> THAT IS THE MUNICIPALITY WHERE THEY WALKED OFF OF THE JOB?

>> YES, IT WENT TO COURT, THE JUDGE REQUIRED THEM TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. THEY HAD A CONTRACT.

>> WITH TWO YEARS LATER. >> THIS IS MY CONCERN BECAUSE I WANT TO HONOR OUR COMMITMENT BOTH PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IT IS COMING. WE WILL HAVE AN INCREASE THIS WILL SOFTEN IT A LITTLE BIT, EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD ( INDISCERNIBLE ) EITHER WAY WE WILL GET IT.

WE WILL HAVE AN INCREASE, EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THAT.

THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

WHOEVER WE CHOOSE OF COURSE, BUT OTHER THAN THAT.

>> PEOPLE IN TV LAND, WE UNDERSTAND THE SERVICE IN THE PAST HAVE NOT BEEN THE BEST AND PEOPLE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THEIR RECYCLABLES PICKED UP AND WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN UNDER THE PRESENT CONTRACT WHICH EXPIRES IN 2024, WE WILL HAVE A SLIGHT INCREASE COMING UP AND WE WILL GIVE YOU BACK THE MONEY YOU COMMITTED FOR RECYCLING. WE WILL RAISE THE OTHER PORTION OF THE CONTRACT BECAUSE THE EXPENSES, THAT IS THE BEST WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IN 2024, EXPECT A VERY BIG INCREASE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET BACK FROM BIDS AFTER BIDDING EVERYONE ELSE.

THAT AS -- THAT IS AS PLAIN AS WE CAN MAKE IT.

IF YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA OUT THERE WE ARE LISTENING.

THIS IS AS GOOD AS WE CAN COME UP WITH RIGHT NOW.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A COMMENT DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ON RECYCLING FOR THE NEXT 18 MONTHS.

ON ONE SIDE OF MY MOUTH I'M SAYING THAT.

ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE ARE REPORTS FOR AIR POSTAL SERVICE HAS BEEN DEGRADED DUE TO MANPOWER SERVICES.

THERE ARE REPORTS OF NEWSPAPER CARRIERS WHO SAY I CAN'T AFFORD GASOLINE TO DELIVER IT THE NEWSPAPERS ANYMORE HAVE A GOOD DAY SO NEWSPAPERS ARE NOT BEING DELIVERED.

WE ARE IN TRYING TIMES RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE WILL GET THROUGH IT BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP

RECYCLING. >> WERE NOT GOING TO GIVE UP.

OUR PLAN TODAY IS WE WOULD YOU HAVE WASTE COME BACK TO UPDATE THE BOARD AND PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER AND CERTAINLY BY THE FIRST WEEK IN DECEMBER, AND THAT IS BECAUSE AT OUR WORKSHOP THEY SAID, WHERE WE WERE TO COMMIT TO NOT RETURN RECYCLING GET RID OF THEIR EQUIPMENT THEY WOULD SHARE THE SAVINGS WITH US AND GIVE US 35,000 CREDIT OFF OF THE CHARGES.

AND IT WOULD BE GOOD THROUGH THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

THE PLAN NOW IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THEM COME BACK AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE THEY ARE FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE AGAIN.

AS OF OUR UPDATE LAST WEEK THEY ARE THE BEST POSITION VACANT BN, BUT THEY ARE STILL A FEW DRIVERS SHORT.

IT WAS 12 DRIVERS SHORT WITH FIVE INCH TRAINING AND JOB OFFERS. THOSE PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO GO TO TRAINING. THAT IS A 90 DAY TRAINING.

>> WE'RE GOING TO CREDIT BACK WHAT WE HAVE BEEN COLLECTING FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS. BUT HAVEN'T WASTE MANAGEMENT AND PAYING US AN AMOUNT EVERY MONTH TO DO RECYCLING AT THE

LOCATIONS? >> NO WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN SERVICING THE LOCATIONS, AT NO CHARGE TO US.

>> I THOUGHT THEY WERE -- >> SO IF THEY GAVE US AN INVOICE RIGHT NOW THE RATE FOR RECYCLING AS PART OF THAT IS $11 AND CHANGE I'M SORRY $12. SO THE TOTAL WEIGHT MINUS THERE AMOUNT FOR RECYCLING IS $1.90 PER MONTH.

WE ARE NOT PAYING THAT AMOUNT AND THEY ARE SERVICING THOSE

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SITES. >> SO WE ARE TAKING THERE INVOICE AND WERE NOT PAYING THEM THAT AND THAT WILL TOTAL AT THE

END OF THE YEAR. >> IT WAS DIFFERENT PRIOR TO JANUARY. IF YOU TAKE 191 TIMES 12, IT

WILL NOT EQUAL TO $22. >> ANY OTHER MOTION I WILL TAKET

A MOTION. >> I KNOW WE ESTABLISH THE RATE

AT 161 FOR RECYCLING. >> 2271, IS THAT WHAT IT WAS?

>> A DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A MOTION NANOSECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION? I THINK THIS IS THE BEST COURSE FOR TODAY. WE WILL HAVE 0 LEFT OVER AT THE BANK AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW BUT WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY THE CEILING THAT WE CANNOT GO BEYOND

RIGHT NOW. >> IS THAT AN ORDINANCE OR A

CONTRACT? >> THEY WILL BE SENT NOTICES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO THE MAX.

>> I WOULD HOPE WE WOULD WAIT AND SEND IT OUT AT ONE TIME AND WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

>> APPLE MOTION NANOSECOND ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

IT CARRIES 4-1. >> ALL RIGHT THAT BRINGS US TO

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AUDIT REPORT. >> CAN YOU HARRIS.

GIVE US 3 MINUTES. THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON. I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A FEW KEY POINTS ARE YOU READY FOR ME TOO GO?

>> GO. THE GOOD NEWS IS WE RECEIVED ALL OF THE REPORTS THAT YOU ARE DOING IN 2022, THIS REPORT WILL GO WITH THE SIGNATURE OF THE CHAIR BY THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK.

FOR THE COMBINED STATEMENT, ACCESS RECEDED LIABILITIES 640 MILLION -- THE COUNTY RECORDED A LIABILITY OF 40 7.2 MILLION WITH THE PENSION LIABILITY AND AN INCREASE OF 112 FROM LAST YEAR END THAT IS DUE TO MARKET CONDITIONS ON THE INVESTMENT. COUNTY REVENUE EXCEEDED EXENDITURES BY 49.7 MILLION, AND WE COMPLIED WITH ALL OF THE DEBT COMPLIANCE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AS IT RELATES TO KEY VARIANCES THE YEAR BUDGET AND ACTUAL SPENDING THE VOLUNTARY HOME BUYOUT PROGRAM WAS FAVORABLE BY $4.3 MILLION.

THAT WAS MAINLY DUE TO A CARRYOVER WE HAD FROM LAST YEAR.

SO WE GOT THE CARRYOVER QUITE A BIT.

THE ANTICIPATED REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE WAS ALSO FAVORABLE, $1.2 MILLION AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE COVID-19 PROJECT THROUGH A THOSE MONIES FROM OTHER SOURCES INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET. AND ALSO, REPAIRS AND

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THIS CONSISTED OF ONE FIRE TRUCK AND SEVEN AMBULANCES AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE SPENT $1.9 MILLION ON VEHICLES WHICH WAS MOSTLY BECAUSE. AND LASTLY WE HAD CAMERA UPGRADES. WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE FINDING AS INTERNAL CONTROLS, SO AS YOU KNOW REPORTING OF GRANT MONEY WE REPORTED BOTH IN 2020 AND 2021, AND EACH YEAR WE DID HAVE MONEY WE DID NOT SPEND. SO IN 2021 THIS WAS UNUSED FUNDS AND THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT. SINCE THEN WE HAVE MADE THE CORRECTION TO THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT IN ADJUSTMENTS.

SO, IN OUR FIRST YEAR OF DOING THE AUDIT WE DO HAVE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO IMPLEMENTING.

WE WILL WORK CLOSE TO REVIEW GRANTS PRIOR TO THE CLOSING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR. WE WILL ALSO REQUIRE A REVIEW WITH THE EXTERNAL AUDIT FIRM AND HAVE PROACTIVE COMMUNICATIONS AND PLANNING SESSIONS DURING THE AUDIT AS NEEDED.

AND SO FOR THAT, THAT IS THE END OF MY POINTS AS FAR AS THE

FISCAL AUDIT REPORT FOR 2021. >> ANY QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD?

>> GREAT REPORT, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, I HAVE ONE MORE THING TO SAY. WE HAVE AND RFQ OUT, YOU GUYS HAVE AND RFQ OUT SEVERAL AUDITING FIRMS TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMITTEE WHICH INCLUDE BOARD MEMBER, COUNTY STAFF, AND OTHER OFFICERS. SO WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ON KAREN FOR AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE RFQ.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU CLERK GREEN.

AS CLERK GREEN REPORTED, WE DO HAVE A RQ OUT RIGHT NOW.

THE CURRENT AGREEMENT EXPIRES AT THE END OF COMPLETING THIS AUDIT. THERE IS NO MORE EXTENSIONS ALLOWED. THAT REQUIRED US TO ISSUE A NEW RFQ. THAT'S DUE BACK AT THE END OF THE WEEK SO WE DO HAVE TO GET SOME PROPOSALS IN.

FLORIDA STATUTE SAYS HOW WE PUT OUT THE WHOLE RFQ ITSELF.

THAT IS DICTATED BY FLORIDA STATUTE 218.

WENT BACK, WE NEED TO ESTABLISH AN AUDIT SELECTION COMMITTEE AND IT DOES STATE WITH A MINIMUM IT SHOULD INCLUDE OFFICERS OR THEIR OPPONENT DESIGNEES AND ONE BOARD MEMBER, JUST A RECOMMENDATION, IT KINDS OF FALLS IN LINE WITH THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE.

SLOPE YOU WANT TO DESIGNATE A CHAIRMAN OR COCHAIR IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF ONE BUT WE NEED TO TALK THROUGH THAT AND MAKE A DECISION TO CHOOSE A BOARD MEMBER TO WORK IN THAT CAPACITY. ONCE WE GET IT BACK WE WILL GET WITH THE CONSTITUTIONALISTS AND SHARE INFORMATION TO SEE WHO ON THEIR TEAM HAS TIME, WE WILL DEVELOP THE FULL COMMITTEE BY THE END OF THIS WEEK OR BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOU.

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>> THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, THEY WERE ADDED TO THE NAME OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

JUST FOR THIS TYPE OF OCCASION. I THINK WE WILL LEAVE IT TO JAY

-- >> YOU ARE THE FINANCE AND AUDIT CHAIRMAN. YOU ARE THE COCHAIR.

>> I'M SORRY. >> IF YOU WANT TO DRAFT ONE OF

HIS PEOPLE TO HELP YOU OUT. >> WE DO WANT TO LOOK AT A SCHEDULE FOR THE MONTH OF JULY, THE EVALUATION RESULTS SO WE WILL WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE CHAIR OF THE FINANCE AND AUDIT

AND DETERMINE OUR COMMITTEE. >> OKAY.

>> GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY.

>> DO WE NEED A VOTE TO APPROVE? >> I'M GOOD.

>> DO WE HAVE TO VOTE. >> MR. CHAIR IF I MAY, IS A VOTE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT? DAVID, DO YOU KNOW? IT IS? SO I NEED A MOTION.

>> WE NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AUDIT.

>> ACCEPT -- SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING (SPEAKING AWAY FROM MICROPHONE),

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SERVICES. >> MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION.

REZONING APPLICATION 22, THE APPLICANT IS ST. JOHN'S CLASSIC ACADEMY. THE AGENT IS DIANE HUTCHINS.

THIS REQUEST AS YOU INDICATED TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF 1.6 ACRES TO PS ONE. THIS IS LOCATED IN THE FORMING ISLAND PLANNING DISTRICT. IN DISTRICT ONE.

JUST TO GIVE YOU IN THEIR JUNE TWO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

ON THIS SLIDE YOU SEE THE ZONING WITH THE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS, AND AN AREA OF THE PARCEL. THE ACADEMY OWNS THIS PARCEL AND THE PARCEL NORTH OF THIS WHICH IS ALSO PS ONE.

AND THEIR DESIRE IS TO ALLOW USE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTHERN PARCEL. THE PS LETTER ONE ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE.

AND THE FLEMING ISLAND ADVISORY COMMITTEE HEARD THIS ON MAY 18 AND PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WHICH WAS IN YOUR PACKET. AS I INDICATED THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 6-04 APPROVAL. STAFF HAVE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINE THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REZONING APPLICATION 22 -- ZERO THREE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> NOT AT THIS TIME. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, IT AMPLIFIES WHAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT, TRAFFIC.

WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO THERE?

>> THE AGENT IS HERE, AND WHAT WAS INDICATED, IT WAS GOING TO BE A BALLFIELD TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL RECREATION.

>> LET'S HEAR FROM THE AGENT. OR SHOULD I SAY THE APPLICANT?

>> DO YOU KNOW THE PROCEDURE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON DIANE HUTCHINS, THE QUESTION WAS THE USE OR PLAN TO BE A SOCCER FIELD

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IS ONE OF OUR NICER FIELDS FOR COMPETITION.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ACTUALLY I WOULD SAY FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT, YOU ALL HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW IT WAS COMPLEMENTED BY THE COUNTY ENGINEER'S.

THANK YOU. >> WE WERE DETERMINED NOT TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WHILE WE DO IMPACTED, WE DO FEEL WE HAVE FOUND A GOOD SOLUTION SO

THANK YOU. >> WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT IT? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. WE WILL TAKE A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. MISTRESS -- CELLA DISTRICT.

>> THE SCHOOL HAS WORKED HARD TO REMEDY ANY TRAFFIC IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I HAVE NOW THEY LETS PEOPLE KNOW WHEN YOUR CHILD IS READY TO BE PICKED UP, THAT HAS HELPED.

AND HAVE TO COMPLEMENT MATT JOHNSON WILL OFTEN -- IS ALSO THE MAYOR. I SEE A MOUTH EVERY MORNING I DRIVE THAT WAY TO KEEP TABS ON HIM.

HE'S OUT THERE, RAIN, HEAT, COLD, HE'S MAKING SURE PEOPLE ADHERE TO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE AND OUT THEY SHOULD BE.

IT PAYS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THEM

EXPANDING THE ATHLETIC FIELD. >> OKAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

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OPPOSED, IT CARRIES 5-0. >> OKAY ITEM 16.

THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT TO CHANGE FUTURE LAND USE SEVEN-POINT 2 ACRES. THIS IS AN COMMISSIONER BURKE'S

DISTRICT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THE APPLICANT HAS UNFORTUNATELY FALLEN ILL AND REQUESTED THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED AND YOUR CONSIDERATION TO CONTINUE.

>> OKAY. WE STILL NEED A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO LET'S DO THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE UP THE CONTINUANCE ISSUE. I DO HAVE SOME CARDS ON THIS ITEM. CRAIG,.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CRAIG, MY ADDRESS IS 3243 WILDERNESS DRIVE, ZIP CODE 302Z MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE ACRES INVOLVED IN THIS PROPOSAL AMENDMENT.

IN THE DOCUMENT TITLE MASTER PLAN THERE IS A SECTION LABELED VF VF PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK.

PORTIONS OF THE POLICY CONTAINED THE FOLLOWING VERBIAGE.

SUCH LAND WILL PROVIDE FOR THE CONSERVATION AND PROTECTION OF CLAY COUNTY'S NATURAL RESOURCES IN ORDER TO PREVENT DEGRADATION TO THE MAJOR RESOURCES WHILE PROVIDING FOR HABITAT.

NATURAL VEGETATION SHALL BE PROTECTED.

THESE LAND SHALL BE PROTECTED WITH SPECIFIC RESTRICTIONS PROHIBITING DEVELOPMENT OR DISTURBANCE EXCEPT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT. THE TREATMENT OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY TO DATE INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING.

THE REMOVAL OF NEARLY EVERY FORM OF VEGETATION REGARDLESS OF SIZE TO THE ROOT SYSTEM AND BEYOND. THIS WAS THIS WEEK EITHER BURN THE ADJOINING WETLANDS VIA A BACKHAUL OR LEFT IN PILES OF VARIOUS SIZES THAT REMAIN ON THE PROPERTY AS OF TODAY.

THE NATURAL BURN THAT SUSTAINS THIS VEGETATION WAS REDUCED IN HEIGHT BY AN AMOUNT MORE CONVENIENTLY MEASURED IN FEET THEN INCHES. THE SAME POWER EQUIPMENT

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AFTER THIS ACTIVITY WAS CONCLUDED THE CLAY COUNTY SIGN WITH INFORMATION REGARDING THIS WAS POSTED.

THE APPROVAL OF THIS DESIGNATION AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT PRECEDED IT COULD BE EASILY INTERPRETED BY CURRENT AND FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS AND CLAY COUNTY WHOSE LAND INCLUDES ACREAGE DESIGNATED AS BF PCN TO CHRONOLOGICALLY ADHERE TO THE SAME STEPS USED IN THIS CASE. OR THE REQUEST CAN BE DENIED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS, FLORIDA OFFICIAL WILDLIFE IN CONJUNCTION WITH STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES AS AN EPA CAN WHAT IF ANY LAWS, RESTRICTIONS ET CETERA WERE VIOLATED AND DETERMINE A ROADMAP THAT INVOLVES SOME TYPE OF RESTORATION TO THE WETLANDS AND PARCEL PROPERTY.

THANK YOU. >> A SONDRA?

>> MY NAME IS SANDRA OLIVET 3389 ( INDISCERNIBLE )@THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING I LISTEN TO THE APPLICANT ADMITTED THAT HE CLEARED THE LAND PEOPLE CANDID THE LAND WITHOUT PERMITS BECAUSE HIS CLEARING OF THE LAND WAS CAUSING EROSION AT AN ALARMING RATE. THIS PROHIBITS HIS ACTIONS BOOK FULFILLING WITHOUT PROPER PERMITTING FROM THE AUTHORITIES WHICH HE DID NOT HAVE. I HEARD HIM BLAME EVERYONE BUT HIMSELF FOR HIS ACTIONS. HIS ACTIONS DESECRATED AN EXISTING ( INDISCERNIBLE ) 4-5 FEET HE DID SO BECAUSE IT DID NOT MEET THE REQUIRED SETBACKS OR THE WETLANDS TO BUILD ON. HE CREATED THE NEW UP POINTS BY HIS ACTIONS AND STATED HE WAS MORE THAN WILLING TO MITIGATE AND PAY FINES. I SAVO FIND SHOULD BE THE COST OF UNDOING THE DAMAGE IS. HE IGNORED THE PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO DO IT CORRECTLY, THIS DOES NOT JUST AFFECT HIM AND THE PARCELS HE WISHES TO SELL BUT THE NEIGHBORING PARCELS.

LIKE MINE, ALL BACKUP TO THE SAME NETWORK.

THIS PARCEL WAS CREATED BETWEEN 2008-2010, THE FIRST MENTION OF IN A PROPERTY APPRAISER OR TAX COLLECTORS, PUBLIC RECORDS IS IN 2021. AND IT READ IN 2021 THAT IT WAS THREE-POINT ZERO FOUR WETLANDS. AFTER THE REZONING SIGN WENT UP IN MAY 2022 IT CHANGED TO IMPROVED ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AREA 0-3 AND 2.4 ACRES WETLANDS. HOWEVER AT THAT SAME PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING IT CHANGED AGAIN, THE .56 ACRES WAS NOW .7.

NO ONE CAN ASSURE THE OTHER 79 HOME OWNERS AND LIVING ON WILDERNESS CIRCLE THIS WON'T CAUSE WORSE FLOODING THE NEXT LINE THERE IS ANOTHER HURRICANE. ARMOR PRODUCED THREE OR FOUR DAYS WHERE WE COULD NOT BE REACHED BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES OR THE POWER COMPANY TO RESTORE OUR POWER.

WE WERE UNDER WILDERNESS -- WILDERNESS DRIVE WAS UNDER 6 FEET OF WATER AT CERTAIN PORTIONS.

PLEASE DENIED THE ZONING I WILL HATE TO SEE WHAT OTHER ABUSE WILL OCCUR AT HIS HAND. ALL OF THE DAMAGE WAS DONE BEHIND A TREE LINE NO ONE KNEW IT WAS HAPPENING BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE IT. IF I HAD BEEN ABLE TO SEE IT I

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JIM.

MY ADDRESS IS ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WE LIVED IN THAT HOUSE SINCE 1984. WE HAVE LIVED THERE LONG TIME.

PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE IMPORTANT. THEY USE THE PROPERTY AS FIT.

THIS TEST PROPERLY PERMITTED AND APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED BY ALL OF THE PERTINENT AGENCIES. ADDITIONALLY THE ANTICIPATED YOU SHOULD NOT CAUSE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA OR RESIDENCE. OUR COMMUNITY, HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED ANY ASSURANCES THAT WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PLANNED AND WHAT THEY HAVE COMPLETED WILL NOT INCREASE THE RISK OF ADDITIONAL FLOODING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SPEAKING OF HIS ACTIONS THE APPLICANT KNEW HE NEEDED PERMITS BECAUSE HE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT IN 2009.

THE REQUEST WAS APPROVED BUT EXPIRED IN 2014.

THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR LIFE ON THE PERMITS DUE TO INACTION ON HIS PART. HE APPLIED AGAIN IN OCTOBER 2021 AND WAS TOLD THAT IT MAY TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS FOR IT TO BE PROCESSED. SO THE APPLICANT DECIDED, AND WITHOUT THE PROPER PERMIT, TO MOVE FORWARD.

ILLEGALLY CLEAR THE SITE, AND BACKFILL THE SITE ON JUNE 2 THIS YEAR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION SENT THE APPLICANT AN E-MAIL OUTLINING PROBLEMS WITH THIS SITE AND TO ADVISE HIM THE SITE WAS NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE DEPARTMENT RULES AND REGULATIONS.

ADDITIONAL RULES WERE REQUESTED AND HE WAS TOLD A REINSPECTION WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SEE IF IT IS PERMISSIBLE.

I HAVE EXTRA COPIES IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE E-MAIL.

THEY WERE UPSET. IN CONCLUSION THERE ARE AT LEAST THREE FACTORS TO CONSIDER CONCERNING THE VOTE.

THE CLAY COUNTY COMMISSION VOTED 6-0.

TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY RESEARCH CONDUCTED OR COMMISSIONED TO WHAT ADVERSE IMPACTS MAY RESULT IN THE COMMUNITY FROM THE APPLICANT'S INTENDED USE.

IN NO WAY SHUT THE APPLICANT BE AWARDED AND IN NO WAY SHOULD THE APPLICANT THEREFORE WHEN CONSIDERING THE ABOVE FACTORS ARE REQUESTS THEY DENY THIS APPLICATION.

>> >> OUR PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE WETLANDS MEAN DISCUSSED. I CAME TO THE LAST MEETING AND LISTENED TO HIM AND I HOPE TO HEAR THE WHOLE STORY BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN HIDDEN OR NOT DISCUSSED.

I CAME AWAY FROM THE MEETING WITH MORE QUESTIONS THAN I HAD ORIGINALLY. FIRST OF ALL HE WAS VERY CAVALIER AND REFERRED TO THE FACT THAT YES HE KNOWS HE WILL PAY A FINE AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO ONCE WHAT HE WANTS ONCE HE PAYS THE FINE AND IT'S JUST ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE IN OUR HOME OWNERS ASSOCIATION HAS PROBLEM WITH ONE MORE HOME BEING BUILT THE ISSUE IS THE LOT AND THE WETLANDS THE AREA BEING COMPROMISED WITH THE BULK THAT WAS CLEARED AND ALL OF THE LAND AND ALL OF THE BURNING THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. HE ALSO ADMITTED HOW MANY PEOPLE

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WE BACK UP TO THE WETLANDS WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS NOT PERMITTED BECAUSE WE WERE IN THE 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE.

WE WERE PERMITTED TO BUILD A ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AND THAT IS WHAT WE BUILT SO ANY WATER GOING THROUGH OUR LAND UNABATED AND FLOWS CLEARLY DOES NOT AFFECT ANY OF OUR LAND OR THE NEIGHBORS LAND. ANOTHER ISSUE IS, THE PROPOSED OWNER OF THE LAND, ACCORDING TO WHAT SHE POSTED ON HER FACEBOOK PAGE THERE'S NOT ONE LOT AND QUESTION BUT TO.

SHE SAID THE OWNER IS TRYING TO CHANGE THE DIRT AREA FROM OF PRESERVED AREA TO TWO BILLABLE PARCELS WON OF WHICH WE WILL BE PURCHASING AND THIS HAS NO EFFECT ON THE SWAMP.

THIS IS HIGH AND DRY BUILDABLE LAND THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE EPA. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, HOW DID THE COMPANY THAT BUILT THIS BULKHEAD NOT SHARE IN ANY CULPABLE NEGLIGENCE. HOW WERE THEY PERMITTED TO DRIVE INTO THE CREEK AND WORK FROM THAT SIDE AND BUILD SOMETHING FROM ONE END OF THE LOT TO THE OTHER AND NOT HAVE A PERMIT ESTABLISHED. TO MEET THEY SHOULD BE FINED AND CULPABLE AS WELL. CAN I FINISH FROM HER STATEMENT.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS AGED SHARED DRIVEWAY.

CURRENTLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE, HE HAS TO COME THROUGH A DRIVEWAY THAT HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST TO LIVE ON THE FIRESIDE OWN.

THEY OWN THE SIDE THEY HAVE TO CROSS OVER.

THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF A SHARED DRIVEWAY BINDS THREE HOMEOWNERS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THEY DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE, WILL THE NEXT OWNER ALLOW THAT OR WILL WE CUT THROUGH THE WETLANDS TO GET EVERYONE THROUGH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANYONE ELSE FROM PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHAT WAS THE REQUEST? >> THE APPLICANT COULD NOT ATTEND TONIGHT SO HE WAS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE UNTIL

THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO GRANT

CONTINUANCE. >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW.

>> FIRST OFF, IF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN I DON'T WANTED TO HAPPEN UNTIL I GET BACK. FIRST OFF, WHAT IS THE PENALTY NOW FOR THIS GUY LIKES WHAT IS IT AS WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW?

>> I AM NOT SURE -- FOR NOT HAVING A PERMIT.

SO $500 FOR NOT HAVING A TREE BUT THIS WOULD BE A PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL LOT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT, THEY WOULD NEED A PERMIT TO BUILD IT NOT THROUGH THE COUNTY.

AND THEY ARE STILL INVESTIGATING IT IS NOT RESOLVED.

>> WHAT DID HE COME TO APPLY FOR?

>> HE CAME TO CHANGE THE LAND USE SO HE COULD HAVE BEEN AS A RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY AND HAVE A HOUSE BUILT ON IT.

>> I SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY, BUT HE WAS TOLD BY THE COUNTY TO WAIT, THIS IS WHAT HE SAID, HE WOULD GET THE PERMIT IN DECEMBER. HE FELT HE COULD BUILD THIS BECAUSE THE COUNTY TOLD HIM HE WOULD GET THE PERMIT.

THAT IS THE STORY I WAS TOLD. >> I DON'T KNOW TOLD HIM THAT.

>> ONE ABOUT THE SOIL SAMPLES STUDY QUACKS.

>> I HAVE COPIES OF THAT. >> HE IS NOT DONE WITH THIS.

THOSE SURVEY IS A FOOT AND A HALF DEEP.

IT IS SURVEYING 18 INCHES WORTH OF SOIL.

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MOST ARE NOT 1 FOOT AND A HALF. >> THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT CHANCE THIS IS SOIL THAT -- UNTIL WE KNOW LIKE AN ELEVATION SURVEY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED BUT THE THOUGHT IS IT WAS A 12-FOOT ELEVATION AT ONE TIME AND NOW POSSIBLY LOWER IN THAT FACTOR HAS BEEN PUSHED THROUGH THE SITE AND MAYBE THAT IS WHAT THIS

SURVEY IS. >> IS IT 200-FOOT THAT HE BUILT?

>> CAN I ADDRESS THE QUESTION QUACKS.

>> EITHER HE HAD A FRIEND WHO DID IT OR HE DID IT HIMSELF.

>> I AM ASTOUNDED THAT SOMEONE DID THIS.

I UNDERSTAND BUT WE SHOULD HAVE A LEG TO STAND ON HERE ALSO.

NOW HE'S WORKING ON ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. >> WE HAVE POLICY THAT REQUIRES THERE IS A 25-FOOT BUFFER OF VEGETATION AND HE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THAT. HE HAS CLEARED PCN LAND.

SO THESE WOULD BE CALLED VIOLATIONS THAT SHAREE IS PREPARED TO SUBMIT. AND HOW MUCH IS THAT QUACKS

DOING OUT? >> JUST TO GO THROUGH THE

PROCESS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. >> HER DAY.

BUT THAT WON'T START FOR 90 DAYS.

>> CAN WE DO A LAWSUIT? DO WE HAVE ANY LEGAL GROUNDS TO

SUE THE GUY? >> HE'S NOT VIOLATING --

>> HE'S VIOLATING LAND USE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE, PEOPLE OF THINK THE CODES ONLY APPLY IF THEY GET CAUGHT.

THAT IS NOW HIT WORK SPIRIT. >> I WOULD LOOK FOR A LAWSUIT TO MAKE HIM RESTORE IT TO THE ORIGINAL CONDITION.

>> HE WOULD AT LEAST HAVE TO DEFENDED.

CAN YOU REVIEW IT TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY LEGAL GROUNDS TO DO

THAT? >> HE ALSO TOLD ME YESTERDAY HIS HOME WAS THE ONLY ONE FLOODED. AND YOUR LISTING RIGHT NOW SO I WOULD APPRECIATE HONESTY. YOU'RE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITIZENS, THE PROPERTY OR THE LAND.

I AM ASTOUNDED. THIS IS OUR GRANDKIDS PROPERTY FOR THE FUTURE. YOU CANNOT JUST DO WHAT YOU THINK IS GREAT TO MAKE MORE MONEY ON YOUR LAND.

IS JUST NOT RIGHT. SO LAWSUIT, ON FOR THAT.

>> ALSO SIGNING A COMPLAINT AND WE CAN START THAT PROCESS AS WELL FOR CODE VIOLATION. THAT WAY WE HAVE TWO AVENUES.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WE DON'T HAVE TO GRANT HIM A CONTINUANCE.

>> I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. THESE PEOPLE CAME OUT, I UNDERSTAND IF HE WAS ILL OR WHATEVER.

BUT HE COULD HAVE ASKED YOU IF HE COULD HAVE APPEARED LIKE THE

CLERK, I MEAN -- >> HE DID ASK IF HE COULD APPEAR BY ZOOM AND I WAS NOT AWARE THEY COULD STILL DO THAT.

>> PROBABLY NOT. >> IT IS A LITTLE COINCIDENTAL, YOU SAID THE DPS IN THE PAST, ANYWAY, I WANT TO DENY

CONTINUANCE. >> I SECOND THE MOTION.

>> A MOTION AND THE SECOND,. >> WE DENY THE CONTINUANCE, SO, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US TO PURSUE WHAT WE HAVE TO QUACKS.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON THE COMP PLAN AND WHAT HE HAS

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VIOLATED, THEY ARE NOT RELATED. >> HE WAS TRYING TO CHANGE FROM THE PCN WHICH HE DISRUPTED, IF YOU ARE DENYING THAT, WE WOULD HAVE ACTION AGAINST HIM FOR DESTROYING THE PCN.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TAKING THE STEPS TO PURSUE

THIS AS FAR AS WE CAN. >> I THINK WE NEED TO KILL THE THING 1ST AND THEN WE TAKE LEGAL ACTION.

>> AND MAYBE CHARISSE YOU CAN LET ME KNOW HOW TO FILE A

COMPLAINT. >> I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A NUMBER OF COSIGNERS. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE, IT CARRIES 5-0.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MEET THIS GUY.

>> MADAME ATTORNEY, I THINK YOU HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD TO GET A LAWSUIT ON THIS CASE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT PERSONALLY BUT IF YOU WANT TO HIRE SOMEONE, IF YOU AGREE IT IS ACTIONABLE. WE WILL LOOK INTO IT.

CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL HANDLE IT FROM HERE, AND MAKE SURE THAT GOES BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE AND ALL THAT STUFF.

OKAY. ANYTHING TO ADD?

>> WE ARE JUST CONFIRMING A MOTION TO DENY THE CHANGE.

>> YES. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.

I'M SO SORRY YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS.

I KNOW IT IS NOT OVER YET. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ITEM 17. >> PUBLIC HEARING TO DO

[17.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing on the adoption of an Ordinance to amend the exception for payment of disposal fees for the first five hundred pounds from per calendar week to per month, amending Section 10-75(a) of Article IV of Chapter 10 of the Clay County Code, being the codification of Ordinance 93-19, as amended, known as the Clay County Solid Waste Disposal Assessment Ordinance]

SOMETHING. >> ITEM 17 IS JUST A FOLLOW-UP TO THE BOARD'S DIRECTION AND THE SOLID WASTE EXCHANGE.

YOU REQUESTED THAT THE 500 POUNDS B CHANGE PER CALENDAR WEEK TWO PER MONTH. THIS ORDINANCE JUST LOOKS AT

THAT PROCESS. >> AND JUST TO CONFIRM THE FEES ARE NOT GOING OUT. THEY WILL START AFTER 500 POUNDS

>> CORRECT. >> START EARLIER QUACKS.

>> WE NEED A PUBLIC HEARING. >> PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED WE WILL

NOW TAKE A MOTION. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> OF MOTION AND A SECOND, DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR

[18.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing for the purpose of considering entry into a Purchase and Sale Agreement for the purchase by the County of real property along Sandridge Road necessary for stormwater retention facilities in connection with the Bonded Transportation Program, more particularly described as follows: a portion of Tax Parcel No. 14-05-25-009337-000-00]

NUMBER 18. HE IS MOVING HIS WAY OF.

WHAT WE HAVE FOR A FEW, IT IS A PURCHASE AND SALES AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH WANT AND TRANSPORTATION NEEDED TO REQUIRE. YOU PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED THE SHORTENED PUBLIC HEARING TIMEFRAME IN CONNECTION WITH THE PORTION. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT WE HAVE PUBLISHED THE NOTICE AND BRINGING IT BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR AGREEMENT FOR BOND. IF YOU NEED ANY DETAILS, THE PURCHASE OF A POND AS WELL AS A TINY PORTION OF EASEMENT.

>> GOOD EVENING. ED DAN DOOR.

REPORTING AND IN THE AUDIENCE IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER.

NANCY CLEMENS, AS WELL AS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD AND CONSULTANTS. BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS THE SALE AGREEMENT FOR TWO PURCHASES OF PROPERTY.

THE FIRST PARCEL IS TO .8 ACRES AND UPON SITE BOTH ARE REQUIRED FOR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT. AND THE PURCHASE IS FROM THE LIVING TRUST, AND THE TRUSTS OF ALFRED LEE JUNIOR.

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THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AS WELL AS THE SUPPORT OF THE TEAM WITH THIS PROCESS AND BRINGING THIS TO FRUITION.

SO I DO APPRECIATE IT. AND WITH THAT SUMMARY, DO YOU

HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> GREAT EXPLANATION.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK QUACKS CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. MOVED TO APPROVE.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

AYE OPPOSE SAME SIGN. >> WE ARE BACK TO NEW BUSINESS.

[9.  Approval of Initial Assessment Resolution for the Clay County Subdivision Roads Maintenance MSBU in order to (1) set the assessment to be charged per subdivision parcel; (2) set the maximum assessment per subdivision parcel; and (3) to provide directions for preparation of the assessment roll and notice prior to the final assessment hearing on August 23, 2022]

THESE ARE THE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WILL BE ADDED PHASES 1-TO VILLAGE PARK AND PHASE TWO IF YOU RECALL THE PROCESS IS THAT YOU WILL APPROVE THE INITIAL RESOLUTION A NOTICE WILL BE SENT OUT FOR THE LOT OWNERS, THEY WILL SET A HEARING FOR AUGUST 23 AT WHICH TIME WE WILL BRING FORWARD THE FINAL ASSESSMENT RESOLUTION AT THAT TIME TO SET THE ASSESSMENT RATE AS WELL AS THE MAXIMUM RATE FOR THE SUBDIVISIONS TO BE JOINT.

>> SO WHAT IS THIS ACTION EXACTLY.

>> WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO IS TO PROVIDE US THE MECHANISM TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE SUBDIVISIONS FOR THE PROPOSED RATES AND MAXIMUM RATE. AND PROVIDE THEM THE HEARING

DATE OF AUGUST 23. >> QUESTIONS WE WILL TAKE A

MOTION. >> ONE QUICK QUESTION, WE WILL GET INTO THE MAXIMUM RATE LATER HOW DO WE ESTABLISH THE MAXIMUM RATE. THIS IS 150%.

WE TAKE 50% AND ADDED ONTO THE RATE.

THAT IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE DONE FROM THE BEGINNING.

>> THAT MAY HAVE WORKED YEARS AGO BUT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE

NOW. >> IF YOU WANT US TO RAISE IT WE ARE CERTAINLY AMENABLE. THIS IS JUST WHAT WE PULLED OUT

OF THE SKY. >> IT IS A CRYSTAL BALL CHALLENGE. WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT LATER. WE ARE WE REQUIRED TO REPAY THE ROADS, INITIAL RESOLUTION SET FORTH WAS THAT YOU WOULD COLLECT MONEY TO RESURFACE THE ROAD IN 20 YEARS.

THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM. >> WE HOPE, THE NEXT ITEM, WE HOPE NOW THE WAY THE RATE STRUCTURES BEING CALCULATED THERE WILL BE FUNDS FOR THAT. AND THERE'S NO CRYSTAL BALL,.

>> DOES THE RATE CHANGE EVERY YEAR QUACKS.

>> WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT ITEM, THEY HAVE WORKED HARD TO RECONFIGURE HOW WE ARE CALCULATING IT.

SO THESE THREE ARE SET WITH THE NEW METHODOLOGY AND THE HOPE IS THIS GIVES YOU THE CUSHION THAT THE INITIAL IS SUFFICIENT AND IF NOT, DON'T FORGET IT'S NOT JUST RESURFACING IT'S THE MAINTENANCE. THE WHOLE IS IT PROVIDES ENOUGH FOR MAINTENANCE. IF YOU HAVE A ROAD THAT IS MORE THAN POTHOLES QUACKS THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.

THEY CALCULATE THE RATE TIMES 20 YEARS TO SEE IF THEY REPAVE

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QUACKS. >> I GUESS IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR TROY TO EXPLAIN THE METHODOLOGY.

>> I KNOW WHERE IS TAYLOR. THE BUDGET TEAM SAT DOWN AND LOOK THROUGH THIS BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONCERN, THE METHODOLOGY BEING USED RIGHT NOW, AND I MAY HAVE TO GET RICHARD TO HELP, THEY FACTOR IN HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IF WE HAD TO RESTRUCTURE THE ROAD TODAY. WE DID FACTOR IN A 4% COST INDEX I KNOW THAT BY FACTORING IN 4% THAT GIVES US OVER THE 20 YEAR TIME SPAN. WE ALSO HAVE A CONTINGENCY.

AT THE INITIAL RATE. SO 20%, FUTURE VALUE OF DOLLARS HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED TODAY AND EACH YEAR TO COLLECT WITH A CONSERVATIVE INTEREST RATE WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE GETTING ON OUR MONEY WHEN WE INVESTED. ALL OF THAT COMES BACK TO A CALCULATION AND WE SAY YOU WILL SEE THE COST OF THAT.

THAT GIVES YOU A LEVEL. THERE ARE SEVERAL FACTORS AND WE TAKE OFF THE STATUTORY 5% THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE IN REVENUE RESERVE SPIRIT WE TAKE OFF THE FEES THAT GOES INTO SETTING THAT AND THAT IS WHY A NUMBER TEN WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT FROM A BUDGET PERSPECTIVE THE ONES YOU DID, THESE ARE THE FIRST YEAR, THE ONES YOU DID THE FIRST YEAR WE FELT WERE NOT SET AT THE RIGHT RATE AND DOING MAINTENANCE NOW AND ALSO HAVE MONEY TO RESURFACE AT THE END OF 20 YEAR.

THE COUNTY COULD SAY LET'S WAIT FIVE YEARS AND YOU WILL HAVE A BIGGER JUMP. AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU INVEST YOUR DOLLARS TODAY SO THEY GROW FASTER THAN HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR

QUESTION. >> SO LIKE WITH NUMBER TEN.

DO YOU LOOK TO SEE OTHERS ALONG THE WAY REX.

>> WE TALKED ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS BASICALLY 50%, YOU WOULD SAY YES ARE THEY ACHIEVING THE GOAL, IF THE ECONOMY SAY Z8% INFLATION IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DID FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT TO COURTNEY'S POINT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTENANCE AND RESURFACING. WE DISCUSSED IT AT LENGTH, AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, LET'S SAY YOU HAD A POTHOLE, THEY WOULD DO

AN ASSESSMENT. >> IF YOU GO AHEAD AND FIX IT, YOU WOULD BE LOANING THE TEAM THAT MONEY.

>> STAFF'S OPINION IS HAVE RESERVES THEN HAVE SOMEWHERE THAT HAS WHERE THEY SEND YOU A BILL.

>> I WANT TO POINT OUT FIVE YEARS AGO, BEFORE WE HAD THIS WE WERE BLINDLY ACCEPTING THE MAINTENANCE ON ALL OF THESE.

THIS IS NOT A PERFECT PROCESS BUT LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF WHAT WE HAD. WHAT IF WE HAVE A STORM DRAIN.

>> THAT WOULD BE THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.

PLUS TEARING UP THE ROAD. >> RICHARD SMITH CLAY COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THE STRIP STORM DRAINAGE IS OUR WORST

FEAR. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE

ROAD AND REPLACING? >> IS THERE ANY LOOK AHEAD TO

SEE IF WE HAVE STARTER RATES? >> THERE HAS BEEN TALK, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS SPIRIT.

>> THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS THIS WOULD BE COVERED BY THE OTHER

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>> THE LAST BATCH OF STUFF WE DID, THE DRAINS WERE TWO THIRDS OF THE COST. THE SURFACING OF THE ROAD -- I THINK DOWN THE ROAD THE BOARD SHOULD AND WHEN THE DRAINS GO,

THIS GOES WITH IT. >> IS A LIFECYCLE OF THE STORM

DRAINS? >> THIS WAS REQUIRED AS WELL AS THE PLASTIC PIPE. THEY ARE IN THE 50 YEAR PLUS.

THE METAL PIPE IS MORE LIKE A 20 YEAR LIFESPAN.

IT COULD BE LESS. >> AND WE ARE USING RCP? OR HIGH DENSITY WHICH IS THE PLASTIC PIPE.

THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS AND THEY ARE SMOOTH INSIDE. THE PLASTIC WILL LAST PROBABLY LONGER. IF PROPERLY INSTALLED.

AND THAT IS, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS THE KEY.

WHEN WE WALK AWAY FROM IT, LIKE AN AUTOMOBILE, I REMEMBER GROWING UP WE HAD CARS EVERY TWO AFTER THREE YEARS YOU HAD TO BECAUSE THEY WERE OBSOLETE. NOW I JAVA 17-YEAR-OLD CAR AND I DON'T MIND GETTING IN IT AND DRIVING TO ATLANTA.

WE KNOW WE HAVE PROPER OVERSIGHT AND CONSTRUCTION AND WE WILL HAVE MORE THAN THAT IS A PROPHET.

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IN FAVOR. >> AFTER FACTOR BOTH SIDES.

IT IS A SELF FUNDING FUND. >> WE DOVE INTO NUMBER TEN AS WELL SO WE GET THE COMPLETE PICTURE.

OTHER THAN THE FIVE THAT ARE LAID OUT IN NUMBER TEN REQUESTING A PUBLIC HEARING TO RAISE THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT, THERE HAVE BEEN 13 OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WHEN WE COME TO YOU IN AUGUST AT THE AUGUST MEETING, THEREFORE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME PUBLIC HEARING OR THE SAME NOTICE.

BASICALLY BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE CHANGED IT IS JUST THESE FIVE NEED TO BE GREATER.

>> WHAT ARE WE PREDICATED THIS LONG, WHEN I READ THIS IT WAS

NOT PRETTY. >> OKAY, NUMBER NINE.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? >> IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE MAX

RATE, NOW IS THE TIME. >> CAN WE DO 175 OR 200 YOU ARE NOT REALLY INCREASING WENT PEOPLE ARE PAYING JUST THE

ABILITY TO. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? I SUGGESTED WE COULD MAKE IT ONCE EVERY FIVE OR 200 WHAT

PEOPLE ARE PAYING. >> IT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY.

>> IT IS THE MAXIMUM RATE. >> I WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA WITH THE COST OF LABOR AND ALL OF THAT.

WHO KNOWS HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE TO SETTLE DOWN.

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>> AS FAR AS THE NOTICE THIS IS THE INITIAL RESOLUTION SO WE COULD SEND OUT THE NOTICE WITH THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT AND WITH THE MAX BEING 200. THEN WHEN WE COME BACK IN AUGUST AFTER YOU THINK ABOUT IT THAT IS WHEN YOU TRULY SET THE ASSESSMENT RATE. > I SAY WE SENT IT AT 175,

INSTEAD OF 150. >> IT MAY NEVER HAVE TO INCREASE

>> YOU WANT TO SECOND PERIOD. >> MOTION SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

>> WE WILL MAKE -- WE WILL MAKE THE REVISIONS AND PROCEED WITH

[10.  Approval to schedule a public hearing on August 23, 2022 in order to reset the assessment and maximum assessment for the following subdivisions: Silver Oak Estates, Pine Ridge West, Azalea Ridge Unit 3, Cameron Oaks Phases 1 and 2, and Somerset]

THE PUBLIC NOTICE. >> NUMBER TEN.

>> NUMBER TEN. I GUESS THE QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THOSE FIVE IS IT WILL COME BACK IN AUGUST AS LONG AS YOU APPROVE SENDING OUT THE NOTICE FOR AUGUST.

AND THE THIRD WE PROPOSED IN YOUR BACKGROUND A NEW RATE.

THOSE WERE BASED ON 150 HASWELL. AND THEN YOU COULD CONSIDER IT

AT THE AUGUST MEETING. >> I THINK YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. THEY MAY AS WELL DO WITH THESE

AS WELL. >> I MOVE WE SET THE PUBLIC

HEARING FOR AUGUST 23, 2022. >> THE MAXIMUM ASSESSMENT

LISTED. >> TO WHICH RATE?

>> DO WE NEED TO ADVERTISE AND SEND OUT PUBLIC NOTICE BASED ON

THE MAXIMUM BEING 175. >> I SECOND PERIOD ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED?

[11.  Results of value engineering efforts for Project #4 CR739 and Project #2 CR209]

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> NUMBER 11.

ENGINEERING OF OUR BONDED PROJECTS.

PROJECT NUMBER TWO. >>

>> GOOD EVENING BOARD, I HAVE CARLOS CAMPOS NANCY CLEMENS TODAY THE TEAM WILL PREVENT DETAILS.

AND COST REDUCTIONS ON THE TWO PROJECTS.

THE FIRST IS JOSH OR COUNTY ROAD 209 FOLLOWED BY AND I THINK, YOU

HAVE THE FLOOR. >> SO CARLOS AND I ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TWO OF THE PROJECTS. AS YOU KNOW CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN RISING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AND PART OF OUR GOAL ON THESE MEETINGS IS TO MEET WITH THE DESIGNERS AND CONTRACTORS AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE CAN SAVE MONEY DURING CONSTRUCTION. SOME OF THE THINGS, THE PROJECT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT, WHERE DO I POINT IT.

PROJECT TWO, COUNTY ROAD 209 PROJECT IN EAST TO 17.

THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY, DURING THE INCEPTION OF THE BUDGET IT

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WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF 5.6 MILLION.

THESE ARE THE THINGS, BUT BECAUSE MITIGATION STRATEGIES STRATEGIES ARE TRYING TO FOCUS ON TO REDUCE THE DEFICIT.

WE'VE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT IDEAS AND IT WAS MYSELF AND THE COUNTY AND THE DESIGNERS AND CONTRACTORS ALSO WORKED WITH US ON LOOKING AT WAYS TO CUT COSTS. SOME OF THE FACTORS WE CONSIDERED, SAFETY WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE NOT IMPACTING ANY OF THOSE ITEMS. THE SPREADSHEET, SHOWS THE FOUR ITEMS WE WERE FOCUSED ON. 60% OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

ON THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, WE HAD AN THIS SHOWS HALFWAY THROUGH THE ALIGNMENT JOGGED TO THE NORTH AND THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THIS WAS TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE PROPERTY RIGHT THERE WITH THE SHIP. YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA SHIFTING TO THE NORTH. THERE ARE TWO PARCELS ON COUNTY ROAD 209, THAT PERSON CONTACTED THE COUNTY AND WAS INTERESTED IN SELLING THE ENTIRE PARCEL. SO ARMED WITH THAT INFORMATION AND THE STRATEGIES WE CAME UP WITH TO REDUCE THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PROJECT, LED US TO RECOMMEND AN ALTERNATIVE.

THEY WERE WILLING TO SELL THE PARCEL.

WITHOUT IMPACTING ANY OF THE EXISTING ROADWAY.

INSTEAD OF A THREE-PHASE PROJECT IT WOULD BE A TWO-PHASE PROJECT WHICH WOULD HELP WITH SCHEDULES AS WELL.

SO WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TYPICAL SECTION WE WERE ABLE TO MINIMIZE THE FOOTPRINT AND ELIMINATE 13 PROPERTIES ON THE EAST WOULD DISTRACT EACH LEG OF THE PROJECT AND REDUCE CONSTRUCTION BY $2 MILLION THAT INCLUDES A MEDIAN AND MAKING IT A TURN LANE, AND SHORTENING THE LIMITS AND NOT GOING ALL OF THE WAY TO U.S. 17. WHAT IT DOES REQUIRE IS REDESIGNED BY THE DESIGNER. THEY HAVE TO GO IN SO THEY HAVE TO REDESIGN THE PLAN SPIRIT I DO HAVE AN ESTIMATE AT $206,000 THE TOTAL SAVINGS WOULD BE THE $3 MILLION.

SCHEDULE IMPACTS DUE TO THE REDESIGN STILL PROJECTED TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE BOND TRANSPORTATION DEADLINE.

THAT IS COUNTY ROAD 209. I WILL PASS IT OVER TO CARLOS.

>> GOOD EVENING. SIMILARLY TO PROJECT NUMBER TWO PROJECT NUMBER FOUR, WHO THIS WAS HELD ON APRIL 5 WITH THE CONTRACTOR. COLLECTIVELY WE GENERATED WHAT THE FOCUS WAS TO KEEP THE INTO USER AND MINE AND THE ROADWAY SYSTEM. THIS IS THE HIGHLIGHT OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. CURRENTLY BASED ON THE PLANS THEY PROVIDED THE CONTRACTOR PROVIDED THEIR ESTIMATE AT

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SEVERALLY, WE COLLECTIVELY PUT TOGETHER THE PAY ITEMS AND FOCUSED ON THE TOP THREE AS YOU CAN SEE ABOVE AND WE CONCENTRATED ON EFFICIENCIES TO REDUCE COSTS.

OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MODIFICATIONS TO THE TRAVEL LANE FROM A 5-FOOT TO 4-FOOT. KEEPING IN MIND THIS STILL MEETS CRITERIA FOR COLLECTOR ROAD RESISTANCE.

THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS CONSTRUCTION FOR 1,000 FEET FROM BRADLEY CREEK. THIS IS PART OF THIS AREA AND TO CLOSE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SCHOOL BORD AND THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION SPIRIT OUR FOURTH RECOMMENDATION IS TO ELIMINATE THE FIELD OFFICE DUE TO THE CLOSENESS TO THE COUNTY OFFICE AND HOW WE FEEL WE CAN EFFECTIVELY MANAGE THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS THROUGH THIS SPECIFIC PROGRESS.

IN SUMMARY OUR RECOMMENDATIONS SAVE ABOUT 1.5 MILLION CONSTRUCTION COSTS BUT IT WILL REQUIRE A REDESIGN THAT IT HAS A TWO-MONTH DESIGN SCHEDULE, ALL OF THIS WITHIN DECEMBER 2024.

MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE ADDING AN IN CONCLUSION THE DESIGN CALLS FOR BOTH PROJECTS ALLOW FOR $5 MILLION.

THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR DESIGN SUBMIT UPDATES AND FOR THE CONTRACTORS AND THE CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION DATES, AND THOSE ASSOCIATED. WITH THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO

ANY QUESTIONS. >> SO WE ARE STILL IN THE HOLE

BY $7 MILLION, AM I CORRECT? >> THIS IS ONE OF THE STEPS WE ARE TAKING WE HAVE APPLIED FOR THREE GRANTS.

AND WERE TRYING TO SUPPLEMENT ADDITIONAL SOURCES FOR THE

PROJECT. >> HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND COST

SAVINGS. >> IT'S LIKE WAITING FOR THE

TOOTH FAIRY TO COME. >> WHERE WOULD YOU GET THE

MONEY. >> AS HE MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING TO ( INDISCERNIBLE ) AS WE GET CLOSER THAN 90% DESIGNED TO IDENTIFY THE COST-CUTTING MEASURES WE CAN GO THROUGH.

NOT TO REVEAL, THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT I THINK WE HAVE HAD SIMILAR DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD WHETHER YOU DESIGN A PROJECT AND MAKE IT A READY-MADE PROJECT.

WE CAN LOOK AT EACH PROJECT AND MAKE OPERATIONAL APPROVALS.

WE WILL BRING BACK THE VARIOUS OPTIONS, NOT JUST ONE BUT MULTIPLE ONCE WE HAVE DISCUSSED TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF WHAT WE HAVE AS WELL AS ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT COME THROUGH.

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AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. >> AT WHAT POINT IN THE DESIGN PROCESS DO WE HAVE TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON WHICH WAY TO GO?

>> WE ARE WORKING AGAIN VESTMENTS BETWEEN THE REPRESENTATIVES AND THE COUNTY AND THE ENGINEER AND THE CONTRACTOR WE ARE ALL PULLING OUR ESTIMATES TOGETHER WE ARE CONTINUING TO NEGOTIATE. AS WE GET TO THE 90% DESIGN WE WILL BRING A PRICE TO YOU. WILL WE FINISH OUT THE DESIGN, AND GET THROUGH TO SEE IF WE CAN GET A BETTER PRICE OR HAVE ANOTHER NOW THAT WE HAVE TO DESIGN DO YOU WANT TO SHOW FOR

IT FOR ANOTHER DAY? >> I INDICATED THE OTHER DAY, MY TACTIC ON AN ISSUE LIKE THIS WOULD BE TO PICK ONE PROJECT THAT IS NOT AS HIGH-PRIORITY AS OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE DESIGNS COMPLETELY SO WHEN WE ARE DONE WE DON'T HAVE ONE WE WANT AND CUT THAT PROJECT WITH THE DESIGN AND WAIT FOR MORE FUNDS TO COME IN AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW. I DON'T KNOW WE CAN LEGALLY DO THAT WITH THE WAY THE BONDS ARE SET UP WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE

THAT. >> OUR INTENT IS TO -- IN OUR JULY WORKSHOP WE WILL BRING TO YOU THE VARIOUS OPTIONS HERE IS WHAT OUR FORECAST IS BASED ON THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AND EVERYTHING WE HAD THE DISCUSSION EARLIER, WE WILL HAVE THAT FORECAST FOR YOU AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE

DIFFERENT FRIENDS. >> WHAT'S BEFORE US TODAY IS THE INCREASING COST TO SAVE APPROXIMATELY $3 MILLION.

>> IF YOU WERE TO BRING THE THEL CONTINUE WITH THE EXISTING BOARD AND THE OLD REALIGNMENT, ALL OF THE ITEMS WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD TO YOU, THE BECAUSE MITIGATION WE WOULD CONTINUE ON AND DESIGN THE LESS EXPENSIVE ONE SPIRIT.

>> THIS IS GOING FROM 5 FEET TO 4 FEET IS A BIG DEAL.

I COULD POINT OUT, THERE IS NO BIG DEAL NOW BUT AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE TRADE-OFF.

>> THIS IS THE STANDARD. ALSO THE 4-FOOT BIKE LANE DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THIS. THIS IS BETWEEN THE TRAFFIC AND THE VERTICAL ON THE CURVE. GETTING EVERYTHING I CAN.

>> >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I GUESS WE WILL -- TAKE A MOTION.

>> JUST TO BRING BACK THE COST MITIGATION TO YOU.

AND AT THAT TIME YOU CAN READ THE AGREEMENTS AND VOTE ON THEM.

>> SO WE TECHNICALLY HAVE NOTHING TO PHONON.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IF YOU'RE NOT GOING IN THIS DIRECTION WE DON'T WANT TO BREAK IT.

>> I WANT TO KNOW IF WE COULD CUT A PROJECT AND DO HALF OF IT AND NOT BUILD ANYTHING AND THEN SEE IF WE HAVE FUNDING AT THE END AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO QUARTERBACK EACH PROJECT WE REALLY WON'T HAVE A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> JUST TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN DO

IT. >> WE CAN DO THAT.

JUST LIKE WE WERE PLANNING ON ADDING PROJECTS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS LOGICALLY THE RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT THAT YOU ARE GETTING IT MAKES SENSE. 1 FOOT, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS

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IT ALSO SPEEDS UP THE PROCESS. THE PARCEL SPIRIT IT BECOMES DIFFICULT. BUT REST ASSURED, WE ARE ALMOST THERE AND READY TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO CUT A PROJECT.

THESE ARE ALL CRITICAL. WE ARE TRYING TO GET THEIR.

WERE NOT TRYING TO THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER.

>> BUT WE ARE $5 MILLION SHORT. >> YES FOR THOSE TWO PROJECTS.

>> WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE TOO. >> THREE ADDITIONAL.

>> SO IT IS CONCEIVABLE WE WILL BE SHORT $10 MILLION.

WE ARE BETTING ON THE PAST LINE THAT WE WILL GET SOME GRANTS.

IS NOT A WAY TO DO COUNTY BUSINESS.

>> THAT IS FOR WORKSHOP IN JULY. THAT'S ORIGINALLY WILL BE HAD, THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE DESIGN MANAGEMENT OF THE

PROJECTS. >> THAT IS WHERE I FALL BACK TO THE POSITION OF LET'S PICK A PROJECT WE KNOW WE CAN ENGINEER AND SAVE ENOUGH MONEY SO FISHER WE CAN GET THE REST OF THE PROJECTS DELIVERED IN A QUALITY FASHION ON TIME.

THAT WAY WE KNOW WE HAVE A SURE THING.

>> OUR WORKSHOP WILL BE THE MORNING OF JULY 26.

IT IS THE BUDGET AND CIP WORKSHOP.

AT THAT.WE WILL PROVIDE YOU ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN DO TOO HAVE A SHELF READY. AND WE CAN LOOK AT IT WITH

REGARDS TO ALL FUNDING STREAMS. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PREDICT WHAT CHANCE WE HAVE OF LANDING A GRANT,.

>> WE SHOULD BE GETTING THUMBS UP OR DOWN SOMETIME IN THE AUGUST TIMEFRAME. AT THAT TIME, AGAIN THE THREE PROJECTS, THEY ARE ROUGHLY ( INDISCERNIBLE ) APPEASE.

AND WITH THOSE, WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THOSE CONDITIONS IN BUT WE WOULD BRING THAT BACK. I AGREE, I DON'T WANT TO PLAN ON SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE. SO WE WILL COME BACK ON THE JULY

WORKSHOP. >> THINGS ARE STARTING TO GO THE WRONG WAY FOR US. I THINK IT'S THE GARBAGE THING

AND NOW THIS. >> I DON'T WANT TO BE THE BEARER

OF BAD NEWS. >> WHILE WE HAVE TO BE

REALISTIC. >> AND I AM OKAY WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND THAT'S GOOD, GREAT WORK.

I DO WANT TO BE CAREFUL ON WHAT WE CUT.

INFRASTRUCTURE WISE WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH WHAT WE CUT.

I AGREE. >> WE WILL LIVE WITH THAT FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS. CONDITIONS ALREADY SAYING WE SHOULD HAVE FOUR LANES, WE CAN'T GO BACKWARDS, I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANY MORE THAN WE HAVE TO FISHER.

>> OKAY, CARRY-ON AND WE WILL BRING FORWARD THE AGREEMENT.

AND MAKE A DECISION WHEN THE TIME COMES.

>> THIS IS IN A DECISION POINT. THIS IS GENERALLY FOR THEM TO GO

THINK THEY WANT TO DO HERE. >> AT THE NEXT MEETING THERE WON'T BE A DECISION EITHER. WE WERE BRINGING FORWARD THE

CONTRACT AMENDMENT. >> AND WHAT YOU PRESENTED

[12.  Award of Bid No. 21/22-49, Drainage Repair and/or New Public Works Construction ARPA Projects (T. Gardner)]

TONIGHT. >> OKAY.

ITEMS ALL. IT IS DRAINAGE REPAIR AND OR PUBLIC WORKS CONSTRUCTION TERESA GARDNER.

>> >> I WILL KICK THIS OFF AND I DO

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THIS IS WELT WE PUT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND PERTAINING TO OUR PROJECTS. THIS WILL PUT A MECHANISM IN PLACE FOR THEM TO BOOT DRAINAGE WORK ON APPROVED PROJECTS.

WE RECEIVED TWO BIDS. AND WE UTILIZE THE TWO CONTRACTORS. THEY GO OUT AND REVIEW THE PROJECTS AND THEY HAVE GIVEN US UNIT PRICE PRICING AND LIKE I SAID BOTH COMPANIES GO OUT AND PRICE THE PROJECT SO WE GET THE ACCURATE COST AND WE GO WITH THE VENDOR.

THIS WOULD BE APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTRACTORS.

>> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS? >> I MOVE APPROVAL.

>> FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS INDICATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED SAME SIDE IT CARRIES 5-0.

>> NE WE WILL USE THIS FOR DRAINAGE.

I HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE PLAYING PICKLE BALL AND THEY DON'T

BELIEVE ME ALONE. >> THANK YOU.

[13.  Agreement with CGC, Inc. for the Louie Carter Road Resurfacing CDBG Project (D. Smith)]

>> NUMBER 13, AN AGREEMENT WITH CGC FOR ROAD RESURFACING.

>> THIS IS THE BID WE BROUGHT TO YOU AT THE LAST MEETING AND WENT OVER SOME OPTIONS FOR THE PROJECT.

NOW WE ARE BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU THE AGREEMENT TO DO THAT

PORTION OF THE WORK. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSED SAME SIGN, CARRIES 5-0. >> CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.

[COMMISSION AUDITOR]

>> GOOD EVENING HEATHER FELTER COMMISSIONING AUDITOR.

AT THE LAST MEETING COMMISSIONER ASKED ME TOO LOOK AT A FUEL TAX HOLIDAY FOR THE COUNTY. I WILL PRESENT TO YOU MY FINDINGS TONIGHT. SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION. ACCORDING TO THE EIA WEB SITE THE AVERAGE PRICE OF REGULAR GASOLINE HAS RISEN 36%.

SO FAR THIS YEAR THAT IS FROM JANUARY UNTIL MAY.

WE CAN SEE THAT INMATE THE AVERAGE PRICE WAS $4.34, BUT WE KNOW IT IS HIGHER NOW. IF YOU HAVE GOTTEN GAS RECENTLY IT IS STILL RISING. WE KNOW THAT, THE FUEL TAX RELIEF ACT OF 2022 IS THE TAX HOLIDAY FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN OCTOBER SO THAT WILL BE A REDUCTION OF 23 CENTS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE HEARD THERE IS A PROPOSE FEDERAL GAS TAX HOLIDAY WHICH IS A THREE MONTH SUSPENSION FROM JULY -SEPTEMBER.

THAT IS PRETTY UNPOPULAR IF YOU HAVE READ ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

I AM NOT SURE IF THAT WILL BENEFIT US.

THE NEXT SLIDE IS BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT THE COUNTY FUEL TAXES. THE FIRST ONE IS THE COUNTY CAST. THAT IS 1 CENT AND LEVIED BY THE STATE. THAT IS PART OF THE SUSPENSION FOR OCTOBER BUT BLOUNT -- FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROPRIATED SO WE SHOULD SEE A MAJOR SHOULD SEE A MAJOR IMPACT.

THE NEXT TWO WE HAVE A LOCAL OPTION GAS WHICH IS SIX SENT THAT WAS LEVIED IN 1989 AND WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL EXTENSIONS TO THAT ONE. THAT APPLIES TO GASOLINE AND DIESEL. IT IS AND ARE INCLUDED IN THE

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THE THIRD ONE IS FOR NEW LOCAL OPTION GAS.

IT WAS LEVIED IN 2017 BY AN ORDINANCE AND INCLUDED IN THE INTERLOCAL. THE LAST ONE IS THE 1 CENT LEVIED BY COUNTY VOTE IN 1980 AND BY STATUTE IN 1994.

THAT ONE ALSO APPLIES TO GASOLINE AND DIESEL.

SO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF APPLYING THE GASOLINE AND DIESEL FOR THE 2ND AND LAST ONE IS ACCORDING TO STATUTE WHEN COURTNEY AND I WERE LOOKING AT IT YOU CANNOT SUSPEND THE GAS TAX SO REGARDLESS IF WE SUSPENDED WE WILL STILL HAVE THOSE TWO ON DIESEL. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST SLIDE THIS OUTLINES THE COUNTY IMPACT FOR SUSPENDING THE TAXES.

LOOKING AT THE LOCAL 6 CENTS AND 5 CENTS THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE COUNTY REVENUE AND I'M LOOKING AT THE MOST RECENT NUMBERS FOR MAY. THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND WHAT THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE RECEIVED FOR MAY. SO ACCORDING TO OUR INTERLOCAL WE WOULD HAVE THE MUNICIPALITIES AGREED TO SUSPEND THE GAS TAX, OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEM BACK THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE RECEIVED. SO THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IF WE CAN GET THEM TO AGREE WE WILL SUSPEND THE TAX WE WILL HAVE AN IMPACT OF 486,000. WORST-CASE SCENARIO WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEM THEIR PORTION OF THE GAS TAX AND IT WOULD BE A 700,000 IMPACT. A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND.

THE REVENUE WE RECEIVED GOES FOR TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND.

THAT FUNDS PAVEMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF ROADS AND PUBLIC SAFETY AMONGST OTHER THINGS. SO OUR ANNUAL BUDGET IS $14 MILLION FOR THIS YEAR END FOR IT LAST YEAR SINCE I HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR WHAT WE RECEIVED THE PORTION THAT WE GIVE 2 MINUTES OF POLITIES, SUBPOINT $2 MILLION WAS RECEIVED FROM FUEL TAX. THAT IS JUST TO SAY THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND IS UNDERFUNDED SOLD THE BALANCE OF THAT DOES COME FROM GENERAL FUND.

ANY OTHER REVENUE WE ARE NOT RECEIVING, IF WE SUSPEND IT WILL COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. AND WE ALSO DID SOME CALCULATIONS AND THAT FOR ONE MONTH IMPACT FOR PER PERSON IF YOU HAVE AN AVERAGE 20-GALLON GAS TANK YOU FILL UP ONCE PER WEEK WITH 11 CENTS, AND IT WOULD ÚBE $8.80 THAT YOU WOULD RECEIV, THAT YOU WOULD GET A BREAK PER MONTH.

ANY QUESTIONS? >> ACCOUNTING MANAGER WHAT

HAPPENS IF YOU LOSE -- >> IT IS 400-700,000.

>> ASSUMING ALL THREE MUNICIPALITIES AGREE.

>> I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU, THEY COUNT ON THAT MONEY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT $700,000, AS HEATHER HAS POINTED OUT, HALF OF THE BUDGET OF WHAT WE NEED IS COVERED BY THESE TAXES.

SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO GIVE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. THAT IS A PROJECT PARTICULAR AREA WE WOULD HAVE TO DISCUSS. AND I BELIEVE, I DON'T KNOW IF HEATHER MENTIONED IT THAT COURTNEY WAS TAKING A LOOK AT THE TIMEFRAME OF WHEN THIS WOULD START.

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO VISIT THAT BUT EACH YEAR BY OCTOBER 1 YOU

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WE WOULD HAVE TO GET WITH THEM. THIS AS A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO WHAT HAPPENS IN JANUARY.

WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THEM. HEATHER AND I SPOKE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE YESTERDAY AND THEY WERE UNSURE HOW TO MAKE

IT WORK WHEN WE SPOKE TO THEM. >> ONE THING THAT CONCERNS ME, GAS PRICES ARE FLUCTUATING. IF WE GAVE A BREAK OF 8 CENTS, HOW DO WE KNOW IT WON'T GET ABSORBED BY THE GAS COMPANIES PEOPLE WILL HAVE A HARD TIME FIGHTING THIS.

>> THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE TAX FOUNDATION SAYS.

A NONPARTISAN GROUP, THEY HAVE VARIOUS COUNTIES AND THEY SAID,

11 CENTS DISCOUNT. >> IT WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN PRICE SINCE WE ARE IN NO POSITION TO ENFORCE IT.

SO THE IN CONSUMER MAY NOT SEE THE DISCOUNT.

AND THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT THE STATE IS DOING. THAT INCLUDES THE TAX THEY HAVE.

WE MAY NOT GET THAT EITHER BECAUSE THE GOVERNORS PLANNING TO DO THIS AND THEY'RE SAYING THIS IS NOT APPLICABLE YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY THEY WON'T SEND US OUR SHARE. IT MAY BE A BIGGER NUMBER THAN WE ARE THINKING. THE OTHER THING IS, THE TIMING, I THINK WE WERE TALKING OCTOBER TO COINCIDE WITH THE STATE WHICH IS NOT EVEN THE BEST MONTH TO GIVE A DISCOUNT.

AND 40% OF OUR TAXES ARE PAID FOR BY PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY. SO WE ARE GIVING UP THOSE DOLLARS TO HAVE GROUPS COMING INDIVIDUALS COMING IN I'M NOT SURE THAT WORKS. BUT I DID MY OWN NUMBERS AND THEY COME OUT SIMILAR THE AVERAGE FILL UP.

I KNOW SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORTH IT TO TAKE AWAY FROM OTHER PROJECTS. THAT MEANS, WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP ON ROADS RESURFACING, OR IT COULD BE, IT HAS TO COME OUT OF CIP FUNDS. DESIGN AND PURCHASE, ALL OF THE THINGS WE HAVE GOTTEN. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFICULT ONE FOR ME TOO COME UP WITH TO REPLACE.

SO, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE EVERYONE A BREAK AT THE PUMP, I DON'T KNOW IF GOING THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE TO GO TO THROUGH TO GET THERE IT'S WORTH IT.

AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE GAS WILL BE BY JANUARY 2,023.

>> I TELL PEOPLE WHEN I SPENT TIME IN EUROPE I LOOKED AT THE CONVERSION LEADERS AND EXCHANGE RATE AND THIS WAS TEN YEARS AGO AND THEY WERE PAYING ALMOST $10 PER GALLON.

AND I SCRATCHED MY HEAD AND I SAID HOW COME IT IS SO CHEAP HERE. I THINK IT WAS WORTH LOOKING AT.

IT WAS A GOOD THING TO EXPLORE. ITEM IN THE OPINION THE COUNTY IS IN NO POSITION TO SUPPORT THAT.

BUT THAT IS JUST ME. >> I AGREE.

IT WOULD BE NICE BUT NOT FOR WHAT IT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM.

AND I RECOGNIZE I DON'T HAVE THREE VOTES.

>> I FELT LIKE IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE CALL FOR ACTION.

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>> I THINK IT WAS GOOD BECAUSE IT MADE ME AWARE OF WHAT WE ARE NOT COLLECTING, AND SUBSIDIZING WITH THE REST OF THE BUDGET.

THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETHINK SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

>> OKAY, ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU.

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

>> COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> YES, THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS FOLLOWING UP ON A DECISION THAT YOU MADE IN JANUARY 2022 IN CONNECTION WITH THE CANVASSING BOARD.

AS YOU WILL RECALL, THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS THE CHAIRMAN WHO SERVED AS THE AND IN CONNECTION WITH THE ELECTIONS COMING UP WE NEED TO SUBSTITUTE A NEW ALTERNATE FOR THAT POSITION AND SO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS ADDED -- ASKED THAT I BRING IT

UP AND MAKE THAT APPOINTMENT. >> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER SAID

HE WOULD LOVE TO LEARN ABOUT IT. >> I NEED SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.

>> ARE YOU HEARING VOICES? >> I THINK IT IS THE WHISKERS.

>> SO WITH RESPECT, TERESA HAS THE CALENDAR CAN PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR. BUT YOU HAVE TO PARTICIPATE WHEN THE CHAIRMAN IS NOT PRESENT. BUT YOU ARE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO

COME. >> OKAY, AND I COULD SERVE FOR THE GENERAL. I WENT TO THE TRAINING.

I CANNOT SERVE IN THE PRIMARY BECAUSE I MET OPPOSED OPPONENT.

I WILL BE HAPPY TO BRING YOU MY FOLDER.

AND THE SUPERVISOR HAD A VIDEO AT ONE TIME.

>> THAT WILL SUFFICE FOR THE TRAINING.

AND THE SIGNATURE VERIFICATION STUFF WHICH IS PRETTY INTERESTING. AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND QUALITY TIME WITH THE JUDGE BEFORE HE RETIRES.

>> UNLESS HE FALLS ILL OVERNIGHT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO WORRY ABOUT. YOU CAN NEVER TELL ABOUT THESE

THINGS,. >> I WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. NEXT WE HAVE COUNTY MANAGER.

>> CHAIRMAN ACT COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE THREE ITEMS FOR YOU.

THE FIRST ONE HOUR WORKSHOP IS WHAT WE WILL ACCOMPLISH.

THIS IS THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU.

VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING THIS MORNING AND A KICKOFF, AND A REWRITE OF CHAPTERS 3-7. THOSE ARE INDICATED ON THE SHEET IN FRONT OF YOU. TONIGHT THE BOARD MADE SOME DECISIONS AND WEIGHED IN ON SPECIAL EVENTS AND THE CONSERVATION PLAN. THIS IS BASICALLY THE CHECKLIST AND TO DO LIST. WE HAVE BEEN MAKING CHECKS.

THESE ARE COMPLETE WITH ANIMAL SERVICES AND ANIMAL CONTROL.

THE CHECKS ARE IN PROCESS SUCH AS BROADBAND AND SUCH.

ANYTHING AND BLACK CIRCLES WE DISCUSSED.

WE DO HAVE SOME MORE TIME I HAD. YOU EACH HAVE YOUR FUTURE WORKSHOPS IN FRONT OF YOU. THE NEXT WORKSHOP WILL BE JULY 26 AS DISCUSSED IN THE BRIEFING.

AND THAT IS THE 23 -- 2223 BUDGET AND WE WILL GO OVER THE LEGISLATION SESSION AND RESULTS. AND I ASKED THE CHAIRMAN TO CHANGE THE AUGUST 23 WORKSHOP FOR TWO WEEKS EARLIER.

AND THAT IS OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND WE ARE GETTING INTO THE BUDGET APPROVALS THAT ARE THERE, AND THEN, WE WILL HAVE OCTOBER 25 STORMWATER DISCUSSION AND OTHER LDC

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I JUST WANTED TO BRIEF THE BOARD ON THAT.

ON A LOT OF THIS, WHICH TERESA AND HER TEAM THEY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB THIS MORNING THERE WAS ALSO A STAKEHOLDER MEETING AT 1:00 O'CLOCK THREE BREAKOUT SESSIONS DURING THAT, WITH THE SPECIAL EVENT ORDINANCE , THAT TAKES US TO ANOTHER LEVEL. AND OUR PARTNERS, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WITHOUT MISSING A BEAT, THIS I WANT TO THANK JAMIE FOR HIS HELP IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.

>> THE NEXT ITEM I HAVE, ON JUNL RESILIENCY ACTION PLAN.

AND THE BOARD. TYPICALLY, I WANT TO COME TO THE BOARD HAVE TIME THIS IS A LETTER I ASK IF IT IS OKAY TO SIGN IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THE REGIONAL COOPERATION ACTION PLAN, ALL THEY ARE LOOKING FOR, HE HAS BEEN THERE HELPING OUT.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR CONCURRENCE FROM THE BOARD THAT IT'S OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT.

RESILIENCY IS CODEWORD FOR FLOODING.

>> YES. >> ACTUALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH THE REGIONAL COUNCIL. IT IS ABOUT COULD MIGRATE INTO MORE THAN FLOODING. IT COULD BE ANYTHING REALLY.

IT IS REBOUNDING FROM ANY INCIDENT.

IF I COULD AMPLIFY A LITTLE BIT. WE EXPLICITLY ADDED WHETHER AND THE ANSWER IS NO, THIS IS FOR A $200,000 STUDY THE COUNCIL WILL DO THE STUDY AND ALL OF THE COUNTY NOT JUST CLAY COUNTY, SUPPORT THEM IN THIS EFFORT. THE JOKE WAS LET ME BORROW YOUR WATCH TO TELL YOU WHAT TIME IT IS, THEY WILL USE OUR STAFF TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS. I KNOW, IT JUST MAKES SENSE THAT WE WOULD PARTICIPATE, EACH COUNTY HAS PARTICULAR ISSUES WITH FLOODING. AND THE LAST THING I HAVE, THE BOARD, ASKING THE STAFF TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR OPIOID, WE HAVE WORKED WITH NORTHEAST FLORIDA REGIONAL I CALL IT A STAKEHOLDER SYMPOSIUM WORKSHOP IT SHOULD BE OUT THERE.

WE WILL MAKE SURE IT IS ON SOCIAL MEDIA THIS WILL MAKE THE STAKEHOLDERS GET TOGETHER SO WE CAN PLAN WAY AHEAD.

I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES WAITING TO SEE WHAT WE DO IF -- ( INDISCERNIBLE ) THEY TOLD US WE ARE THE FIRST ONES TO ASK AND I THINK THAT WILL BE THE STANDARD TO MOVE FORWARD. THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN ITEMS I HAD. THE FOURTH OF JULY IS COMING UP.

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THEY GET INSPECTED BY THE TEAM, AND FOR THE TEN SANDBOXES THAT ARE THERE. REALLY PLEASE.

IT'S GREAT TO CELEBRATE FOURTH OF JULY AND ARMOR GREAT NATION.

>> THAT BRINGS US TO FINAL PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> ANYONE WISHING TO TALK TO US ABOUT ANYTHING?

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>> EVERYTHING I DO LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT FEW DAYS TO LOOK AT THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO COMMISSIONERS TO GET IDEAS THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTING THAT COULD BE USED HERE TO BENEFIT US IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE ASSOCIATION AND TAKING PART IN THOSE MEETINGS, AND SOME OF THE PROBLEM AREAS WITH GARBAGE AND RECYCLING AND OTHER THINGS WILL BE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS. I DO WANT TO THANK THE STAFF, THIS IS A LONG DAY SOMEONE FROM ONE MEETING TO ANOTHER MEETING OR WORKSHOP TO A SECOND WORKSHOP TO A THIRD MEETING WHATEVER THE CASE. IT WAS A LONG DAY.

WE DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT IN FOR THE DAY TODAY AND CERTAINLY LEADING UP TO THE DAY. I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COUNTY MANAGER'S THOUGHTS. INDEPENDENCE DAY IS FOURTH OF JULY, BUT I WANT TO COME BACK WITH TEN FINGERS AND TEN TOES AFTER HOLIDAYS. TIM ALREADY HAS HIS BAND-AID ON.

THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL.

>> TO AMPLIFY, FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES AS A CONFERENCE STARTING TOMORROW MORNING EARLY, 7:30 A.M.

SOME OF US WILL BE DRIVING HERE FOR THE NEXT ONE HALF HOURS TO

GET TO -- >> IS ONLY TWO AND A HALF HOURS.

( INDISCERNIBLE ) I WANT TO SPEAK TO FREEDOM FEST WAS THIS WEEKEND. I REALLY DIDN'T GET -- I DON'T THINK THERE WAS AN ISSUE OR INCIDENT.

I KNOW WAS WELL DONE. WE MENTIONED THE FOURTH OF JULY MAY BE AND CELEBRATING THE BIRTH OF OUR NATION.

>> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT I ASKED ABOUT EARLIER, HOW DO WE GET THIS CHANGED, HOW DOES THAT WORK? ARE YOU ASKING TO GO IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS?

>> MICHAEL CHANGE. SO, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

>> YOUR PARTICULAR ISSUE HAS THAT TRACK INDIVIDUAL HAS A NICHE -- TRACK ISSUE TO THE BOARD?

>> HE HAS TO GO THEY WERE TOLD THE CHANCES OF GETTING IT WERE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. $250.

>> YOU HAVE TO PUT UP SIGNS IN YOUR YARD SO NEIGHBORS KNOW YOU'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE FROM THE REQUIRED SETBACK AND

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THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE TINY BACKYARDS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT. THEY WANT SHEDS.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, I WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE IN THE ZONING DISTRICT, HONESTLY, THEY ARE NOT EGREGIOUS. THE SMALLEST ONE IS FIVE.

WE CAN LOOK AT THE SETBACKS. WEEK CAN I REQUEST CERTAIN

ZONINGS FOR THAT, -- >> I WANT US TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS FIRST TO LOOK THROUGH IT.

I THINK MOST OF IT MAKES SENSE BUT IF YOU THINK SOMETHING NEEDS

A CHANGE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. >> IF YOU HAVE 2 ACRES IT'S DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT ANCHOR.

>> I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THE FOLKS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL ARE THE ONES WHO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.

>> SOME OF OUR APPLICANTS HAVE BROUGHT IN SUPPORT FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

IF THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS IT IS TYPICALLY

VERY SUCCESSFUL. >> I THINK IT IS EXCESSIVE, YOU HAVE SOMEONE GOING THROUGH THE WETLANDS ADVERTISING, STAFF AND THE SIGNS. ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

>> THANK YOU. AND MY OTHER KIND OF LECTURE IS, I FEEL LIKE, WE COULD BREAK THE THE RULES IN SOME WAY.ALL BROKE- BUT IF EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY WHERE TO DO THAT, THERE IS A REASON FOR RULES, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD TRY TO WORK TOGETHER WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE COMING INTO THE COUNTY WE WANT IT TO STAY WONDERFUL AND YOU THINK IT'S A LITTLE BREAK GET IT ALL ADDS UP. I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THAT. DO YOUR BEST.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU.

>> I WAS GOING TO ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS AND BE MORE FIRM AND MY STATEMENTS. I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ON PROPERTY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE CHOSEN TO VIOLATE COUNTY CODES AND THEY ONLY WANT THEY ONLY WANT HELP IF THEY GET CAUGHT THEN THEY WANT YOU TO HELP FIX A PROBLEM THAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIX. FOR CODES EXIST FOR REASON AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM, WE DON'T GET TO SET THE CODES APPEAR, BUT I HOPE THAT I'LL IMAGINE WOULD COMPLY WITH COUNTY CODES AND I HOPE OTHERS WOULD THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO.

THEY DON'T JUST EXIST, AND WE DO HAVE A PATTERN OF PEOPLE DOING THINGS, AND IF I DON'T GET CAUGHT IT'S NOT REALLY A CODE.

CAN THE PEOPLE PUTTING COMMERCIAL WASTE IN THE LANDFILLS, THAT IS AGAINST COUNTY CODE.

WE NOW HAVE THE CURBSIDE COLLECTION THAT THEY CAN'T BE BILLED QUARTERLY AT THE SAME RATE AS RESIDENTIAL AND HAVE IT PICKED UP AND THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY TO ROSEMARY.

WE DO HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THEM THEY DON'T HAVE TO FIND A WAY AROUND IT. AND WE HAVE OTHER THINGS WHICH WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS THAT ARE OPERATING IN DISTRICTS I WOULD

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YOU CAN GET INTO KEYSTONE BEACH AT 4:00 P.M.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ARMBAND TO GET IN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO LIMIT FOR FIRE CODE. THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO CAN BE IN THE PARK. SO A FUN DAY.

AND OF COURSE YOU CAN ENJOY THE NORTH END OF THE COUNTY ON THE OTHER DAYS. I WOULD ASK EVERYONE TO HAVE A SAFE AND HAPPY CELEBRATION OF OUR NATION'S BIRTHDAY.

>> FIREWORKS. I HAVE ASKED AND I GUESS ON THE FOURTH OF JULY FIREWORKS ARE ILLEGAL.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CALLS% I GET SAYING THEY'RE BLOWING UP MY HOUSE, CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

MY DOG IS COWERING IN THE CORNER.

WHAT IS THE REAL SKINNY ON THIS SPIRIT.

>> I GUESS I WILL STAND IN FOR ANTHONY TO TALK ABOUT FIREWORKS.

THE STATE LEGISLATURE CHANGED IN 2020 AND PROVIDED FOR THE DEFINITION OF FIREWORKS AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO SEPARATE THAT FOR A SECOND. SPARKLERS ARE CONSIDERED LEGAL FIREWORKS IN THE STATE AND HAVE BEEN.

THEY ARE DEVICES THAT BRO AND HIM IT SPARKS BUT DON'T LEAVE THE GROUND. SO IF YOU HAVE WITH THE KIDS CARRIED THOSE CURRENTLY GOING HAVE REMAINED THAT WAY.

FIREWORKS HAVE BEEN TRADITIONALLY ONLY LEGAL AND FOR THOSE WHO PURCHASE THEM YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IT BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLY ALLOWED FOR THE SCARING OF ( INDISCERNIBLE ) IT IS HOW YOU LITERALLY HAD TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT YOU WERE DOING THAT WHEN YOU MADE A PURCHASE. AND THEN NOBODY FOLLOWED UP OR DID ANY INSPECTIONS SUBSEQUENT TO THAT.

BUT THE LEGISLATION SAW IT TO CHANGE IT AND THE GOVERNMENT APPROVED AND NOW THEY ARE LEGAL FOR USE BY ANYBODY AND FIREWORKS OR ANYTHING THAT EXPLODES OR LEAVES THE GROUND.

ON DECEMBER 31, JANUARY 1, AND THE FOURTH OF JULY.

LITERALLY, IF WE USE THEM ON THE THIRD OF JULY IT IS LEGAL BUT IF YOU USE THEM ON THE FOURTH OF JULY IT IS LEGAL.

I WOULD ASK THE CITIZENS TO GUIDE THEMSELVES THAT WAY.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GOING OUT TO FIND THEM OR FIND THEM FORWARD. BUT THE MAIN THING IS FOR PEOPLE TO DO IT IN A SAFE MANNER. I HAVE LOOKED AT SOME STATISTICS BEFORE I CAME THERE WERE 19,000 FIRES NATIONWIDE CAUSED BY FIREWORKS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND MORE THAN 9,000 PEOPLE GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM TO HAVE DIGITAL OTHER THINGS REPLACE.

SO WE ASKED YOU TO TREAT IT AS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS RESPONSIBLE SUPERVISION. I THINK THAT HAPPENS IN THOSE THINGS TAKES PLACE AND NOT IN THE HANDS OF CHILDREN.

>> AS A KID GROWING UP I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY THINGS I BLEW UP, FORTUNATELY I WALKED AWAY, THE COMMISSIONER IS REVEALING A

FEW THINGS. >> ANYWAY, IF YOU ARE NOT SO INCLINED TO DO IT YOURSELF, THERE IS A LIST OF FIREWORKS EXHIBITS ON INDEPENDENCE DAY. RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH SANDRIDGE ROADS GREEN COVE SPRINGS ON SUNDAY JULY 3 AT 845, WE WILL HAVE A GIGANTIC EXHIBIT. NUMBER TWO, OUR COUNTY DAY,.

>> OUR COUNTRY DAY. >> RIGHT OUR COUNTRY DAY.

COUNTY ROAD 214 SATURDAY, JULY 2 AT 9:00 P.M.

HUNTER DOUGLAS PARK, IN MIDDLEBURG MONDAY JULY 4 AT 9:0R

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I WAS PART OF ONE OF THESE THAT THE ROTARY PUT ON AND WE HAD THE MOST TORRENTIAL RAIN AND THUNDERSHOWER YOU EVER SAW.

NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE TO TURN A WAY 20,000 ANGRY PEOPLE BUT WE HAD A BIG BILL. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A GOOD CLEAN DAY AND A LOT OF FUN. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I ASKED THE COUNTY MANAGER TO ASKED WHAT TO DO ABOUT HOUSING. IT IS ONE OF THE PLACES I GET A LOT OF MY NEWS FROM. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEMS WERE HAPPENING.

I GET MOST OF MY NEWS FROM THIS AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL.

IF YOU GET A CHANCE LOOK AT IT. WITH THAT, I HAVE A LONG TRIP DOWN TO ORLANDO. I DON'T KNOW IF I AM AWAKE ENOUGH TO TRY IT IF NOT I WILL DO IT IN THE MORNING.

ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO THE FRAY

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.