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>> WELCOME TO THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING MEETING.
[Call to Order]
THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER. MY NAME IS MARY BRIGMAN.I'M VICE CHAIR OF THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION.
[Pledge of Allegiance]
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK RALPH FOR INVITING ME.>> EVERYONE STAND, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.
AGAIN, WELCOME. I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CERTAIN FOLKS THAT ARE PRESENT, STAFF AND OFFICIALS PRESENT TONIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE MINUTES FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING WILL BE TAKEN BY HANNAH TROWEL. RECORDING SECRETARY FROM THE COURT'S OFFICE. THANK YOU MISS TROWEL.
WE HAVE OTHER STAFF, ED LAYMAN, CLAY COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR MANY WE HAVE MIKE BROWN CHIEF OF ZONING.
WE HAVE BETH CARSON CHIEF PLANNER.
AND SAM OLSON, PLANNER. WE HAVE ENCOUNTER GRIMM, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE HAVE SHARICE STEWART, THE ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE TWO CLAY COUNTY SHERIFFS REPRESENTATIVES HERE TONIGHT, DEPUTY DUE HER AND SERGEANT DUGGER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER OFFICIALS OR STAFF PRESENT I NEED TO RECOGNIZE? I WILL INTRODUCE THE
>> NEW ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY, JAMIE HOVDA.
WELCOME. GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH US MANY ANYONE ELSE? IF I MAY INTRODUCE THE COMMISSIONERS TO MY RIGHT, PETE DAVIS, RALPH PUCKHABER, MICHAEL BOURRÉ, . . . AND LANCE ADDISON.
THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
MOST OF THE DECISIONS MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR BCC THE BCC WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY ON THESE MATTERS AT THEIR MEETING ON JUNE 28TH. THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
THAT IS THREE WEEKS FROM TONIGHT.
THE ZONING PORTION OF THE BCC IS HE HELD AT 5 P.M. IF THERE'S AN ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THE COMMENT CARDS AND GIVE IT TO MS. TROWEL.
SO, IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO, THEY'RE AVAILABLE JUST OUTSIDE THE DOORS THERE. AT THIS TIME WE ASK THAT YOU PUT YOUR PHONES ON SILENT OR VIBRATE AND IF YOU NEED TO TAKE A CALL DURING THE MEETING PLEASE STEP OUTSIDE.
IF YOU NEED TO LEAVE DURING THE MEETING PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY.
[1. Approval of Minutes]
SO, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WOULD BE THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 3RD MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. DO I HEAR A MOTION?>> THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
AT THIS TIME ANY MEMBER. PUBLIC MAY COMMENT ON ITEMS NOT INCLUDED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA BUT PERTINENT TO THE BUSINESS OF THIS COMMISSION. SO, I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD BUT LET ME GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT ON AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
AND MOVE INTO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
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NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE WHO HAS NT ATTENDED ONE OF THESE MEETINGS BEFORE BUT JUST TO EXPLAIN THE ORDER THAT WE TAKE THESE ITEMS, I WILL CALL ON THE STAFF MEMBER A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF, TO PRESENT THE ITEM AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO CHANCE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND THEN I OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ANY CITIZEN WHO WISHES TO PROVIDE COMMENT AND I DO HAVE A FEW COMMENT CARDS SO THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE THAT PART.NOW, THE COMMENT PERIOD IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON AND THERE ARE LIGHTS. THE LIGHTS ON THE PODIUM WILL
TURN TO IS THAT WHERE IT IS? >> THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF.
>> WE'LL GET THAT SET UP BUT IT'S A TIMER AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW. IT TURNS YELLOW WHEN YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE AND THEN RED WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP.
WE WILL LET YOU FINISH YOUR SENTENCE AND WHATEVER BUT THAT'S THE WAY THAT WORKS, THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
[1. Public Hearing to consider CPA 2022-03. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (B. Carson)]
SO OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS TO CONSIDER CPA 2022-3. AND CHIEF PLANNER BETH CARSONWILL PRESENT THIS. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CPA 2022-03 WHICH IS A SMALL CAME LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR BRAN DEN FIELD PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK TO BE CHANGED TO URBAN CORE 10 THIS IS IN DOCTORS INLET RIM WOOD PLANNING DISTRICT, COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 5 WHICH IS COMMISSIONER BURKE AND THE APPLICANT IS MR. JAMES LENAHAN, WHO IS HERE. THE BCC HEARING ITEM FOR THIS WOULD BE ON JUNE 28TH. THIS IS A PARCEL MAP OF THE SITE. IT IS ACTUALLY A PORTION OF THAT PARCEL, .72 ACHERS AND AGAIN, THE EXISTING LAND SUES BRAN DEN HILL PRIMARY USE NETWORK AND THE REQUEST IS TO GO TO URBAN CORE 10. THE MAP ON THE LEFT IS OUR LAND USE MAP FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND IT'S SHOWING THE BROWN AS THE URBAN CORE 10, THE GREEN STRIPE IS THE PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK AND OF COURSE YOU SEE THE SITE.
THE BLUE IS BLACK CREEK, THE PROPERTY BORDERS BLACK CREEK.
AND OVER ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE EXISTING ZONING MAP.
THE LEFT OF BLACK CREEK WHERE IT'S YELLOW IT'S BRAN DEN FIELD PUD AND THE RIGHT IT'S LAKE ASBURY.
THIS IS KIND OF AN EXPANDED MAP OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA HOW THIS FITS IN THE REGION.
THIS, THE PORTION THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE CHANGED IS BORDERING RIGHT UP ON THE CREEK. IT'S NOT THAT ENTIRE PARCEL THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED. THAT'S THE PARCEL NUMBER.
THESE MAPS ARE SOIL AND FLOOD ZONE ON THE THE LEFT IS THE SOIL. YOU CAN SEE THE AREA IS THE MORE PASS, WHICH I MAY BE MISPRONOUNCING BUT THIS IS A POORLY DRAINED SOIL THAT IS FREQUENTLY KNEWED.
ON RIGHT IS THE FLOOD ZONE MAP AND THIS IS MOSTLY AE ZONE BUT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF AE FLOOD WAY, WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN CHANGED NOW WITH THE EXISTENCE OF THE BULKHEAD.
THAT MAY NOT BE SUCH AN IMPACT. THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND CONSERVATION.
THE BRAN DEN FIELD PCN WAS DESIGNED TO INCLUDE MOOSE CREEK AND . . . AND FEMA DESIGNATED HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAINS THE INTENT TO PROTECT THE . . . USES PERMITTED BOARD WALKS DOCKS FOR ACCESS FENCES AN USE WHICH HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE NATURAL AREAS AND THE BOUNDARY SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF 200 FEET IN WIDTH OR 25 FEET FROM THE JURISDICTIONAL WET LAND LINE, WHICHEVER IS GREATER. THIS IS A PHOTO THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT OF THE AREA.
HE HAS INSTALLED A BULKHEAD ALONG BLACK CREEK.
THERE'S ANOTHER PHOTO OF THE AREA.
NOW, YOU HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS IN YOUR APPLICATION PACKAGE THIS
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TIME. THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR 1.3 ACRES I BELIEVE, AND WE ASKED HIM TO REVISE HIS APPLICATION TO SHOW ONLY THE PORTION THAT HE WAS REQUESTING FOR THE PCN WHICH WAS ULTIMATELY JUST THIS .72 ACRES.SO YOU'VE GOT BOTH APPLICATIONS. YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL SURVEYS.
I REQUESTED THAT THE SURVEYOR CLEAN UP HIS SURVEY AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE UNDERSTANDABLE. THE ORIGINAL SURVEY HAD WET LAND SYMBOL SHOWN OVER THIS WHOLE.62 AREA WHICH IS APPARENTLY NOT WHAT WE HAVE HERE, SO THIS IS THE CLEANED UP SURVEY ON THE LEFT, AND WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HAVE YOU SEE ON THIS THE GREEN AREA IS WHAT IS DESIGNATED AS A WET LAND AREA.
THAT WAS DETERMINED BY COMPANY OCE I BELIEVE OUT OF ORLANDO.
AND THEN THE BALANCE OF THE SITE, ACTUALLY ALL OF THE SITE IS REGARDED AS NEW UPLAND AREA. YOU'LL SEE THERE'S LINES THAT GO TO THE WATER'S EDGE AND TO THE OUTER EDGE SO IT'S THE WHOLE AREA. AND THIS WHOLE AREA REPRESENTS THE .72 ACHEERS THAT ARE PART OF THIS REQUEST.
THE EFFECTIVE LEVEL OF SERVICE SOLID WAYS CAPACITY IS AVAILABLE. POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE BASICALLY ONE RESIDENTIAL LOT.
STORM WATER WOULD BE TREATED BASICALLY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO IMPACTS ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO, THE BRAN DEN FIELD PCN WOULD NOT PERMIT ANY DWELLING UNITS SO IT WOULD REPRESENT AN INCREASE OF THE URBAN CORE WOULD ALLOW TWO DWELLING UNITS PER NET ACRE. IT ALSO WOULD ALLOW 6 DWELLING UNITS PER NET ACHE FUR THERE WAS WATER AND WEATHER IS.
THERE'S NOT WEATHER IS AVAILABLE SO THAT WOULD NOT BE AN OPTION AN IT ALLOWS 7-10. THAT'S ALSO NOT AN OPTION.
SO, RECOMMENDATIONS, THE PROPOSED LAND USE CHANGE AND SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD RESULT IN NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO NATURAL RESOURCES THE WENT LANDS AND THE EKE OPEN SYSTEMS AND WITH THAT SAID STAFF RECOMMENDS DENYING NILE OF -- DENIAL OF TH APPLICATION. ANY QUESTIONS?
>> ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONERS?
>> I HAVE A COUPLE MANY BETH, I NEED TO GO BACK ON THAT PRESENTATION IF YOU DO A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
I'LL TELL YOU WHEN. >> I NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING ON THIS IF I COULD WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR QUESTION.
>> I WAS ALMOST, TAKE NOTE OF THAT ONE.
THAT ONE. WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE FREEZE THAT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN THERE? YOU KNOW? SO, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, AND I SAW IT IN THE PACKET, THIS WAS AN ILLEGAL BULKHEAD THAT WENT IN AN ILLEGAL FILL.
>> IT WAS NOT FULLY PERMITTED. THAT'S CORRECT.
BUT THAT IS AN ISSUE WITH DEP. >> DO WE AS THE COUNCIL NOT CARE
ABOUT THAT? >> I REACHED OUT TO FIND OUT IF IT WAS A PERMITTED BULKHEAD AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. WHAT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT ON THIS I GOT BUSY WITH THE SURVEY OVER ON THE RIGHT AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST THERE IS A RAISED AREA. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTOURS TO THE LOWER PORTION OF THIS SITE, THERE IS A RAISED AREA THAT HAS HAD A 12 FOOT CONTOUR. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BERM.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN HYDRAULICS BUT I HEAR THE TERM OXFO WHICH I BELIEVE IS BUILT UP DIRT IN THIS AREA SO YOU HAVE A RAISED AREA AND THEN IF YOU LOOK, COMPARE THE TWO ON THE LEFT IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN WHERE THE WETLANDS ARE, THE WENT HASN'T IS APPROXIMATELY 74 FEET ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, WHICH IS ABOUT WHERE THAT 12 FOOT CONTOUR IS. APPROXIMATELY IN THAT AREA.
AND THEN, WHEN YOU MOVE UP TO THE LARGER WIDER AREA OF COURSE YOU'RE COMING FURTHER OUT TOWARD THE WATER.
I DON'T KNOW IF I MADE THAT CLEAR.
>> YOU DID BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT, SURVEY SHOWS
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NEW UP LAND AREA WHICH SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT WAS CREATED THAT WAS RECEIPT WETLANDS PREVIOUSLY. IS THAT CORRECT? WAIT. TELL THEM THEY CAN'T TALK.>> EXCUSE ME. DURING THIS PORTION, THERE SHOULD BE NO COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.
THANK YOU. >> THAT WOULD BE MY UNDERSTANDING JUST BASED ON THE MEASUREMENTS AND LOOKING AT THAT SHED LOCATION THE BACK OF THE SHED THE FAR SIDE FROM THE WATER IS ABOUT 64 FEET. AND IF YOU LOOK AT -- IT'S ALSO ON THE SURVEY IF YOU LOOK AT THE SHED.
>> OKAY. >> WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
>> MISS CHAIRMAN THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSIONERS.
>> I DO HAVE ONE. THANK YOU MA'AM.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION. THE MORATORIUM THAT'S IN EFFECT IN THAT AREA, BY GOING TO URBAN CORE 10 AT TWO DEALINGS UNITS PER ACRE WE HAVE JUST INCREASED, ARE YOU WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT
WITH THAT MORITORIUM? >> SO THE MORATORIUM IS FOR LAKE ASBURY. THIS IS BRAN DEN FIELD.
>> SO IT DOESN'T FALL WITHIN THAT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
>> GO AHEAD MR. EDISON. >> BETH THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ALLOWED ARE THEY RAISING IT? WHAT IS THE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY
ALLOWED FOR THE PROPERTY? >> SO CURRENTLY UNDER PCN THE BRAN DEN FIELD PCN THEY COULD NOT BUILD ANY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE.
NO DENSITY IS PERMITTED. IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE TO THE URBAN CORE THE BASE DENSITY IS TWO UNITS PER DWELLING TWO UNIETS PER NET ACRE. IF THEY HAD WATER AND WEATHER IS THEY COULD GO UP TO THE SIX UNITS.
IF THEY HAD WATER AND WEATHER IS IN POINTS AND I HONESTLY CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY IN THEY HAVE THE POINTS BECAUSE I STOPPED LOOKING AT THE WARP AND WEATHER IS, POTENTIAL WOULD BE 7-10 UNI-IT'S BUT THAT'S PER NET ACRE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE WHERE LOOKING AT-POINT 72 ACRES AND PART OF THAT APPEARS TO BE WET. IT MAY HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED,
THOUGH. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL ON JAMES LENAHAN, THE APPLICANT, TO PRESENT.
>> JAMES LENAHAN. 3207 [NAME] DRIVE, 32078. FIRST I'M A SIMPLE MAN, DID 34 YEARS SERVING MY COUNTRY 20 IN THE MARINE CORPS, 14 AT PEGASUS CLUB, VERY FRUSTRATED. LET ME EXPLAIN OUT OF NON-PERMITTING OF THE WALL. I A MIGHT FOR MY PERMIT THEM.
DID A SITE SURVEY MIDDLE OF DECEMBER.
I HAD A PERMIT I BROUGHT THE HOUSE TO DO THE ENTIRE RIVER BANK BUT I RAN OUT OF MONEY RAN OUT OF TOWN, THEY SAID YOU HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. THEY CAME OUT THERE DID A SITE SURVEY IN DECEMBER 15-16 AND I'M ASKING THEM WHEN CAN I EXPECT THE PERMITS. ROUTINE, YOU'LL HAVE IT BY THE HOLIDAYS. I SAID GREAT.
ORDER MY LUMBER. ORDER MY EXCAVATORS, ORDER THE GUYS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP ME DO THIS JOB AND FIRST WEEK IN JANUARY, OH WELL BUREAUCRATIC, OTHER PEOPLE TO LOOK IT, NEED ANOTHER SITE SURVEY, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN TO FEBRUARY.
ALL THAT SOIL IS DUMPING IN THE CREEK.
I THOUGHT I IT WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING.
I PUT THE WALL IN. THEY COME OUT SAID YOU'RE IN VIOLATION. OF COURSE YOU'RE IN VIOLATION.
HERE'S WHY. NOW WE HAVE THIS PROCESS OF PERMITTING AFTER THE FACT AND THAT'S WHAT I'M PURSUING.
AS FAR AS THERE'S NOT BEEN A TEASPOON FULL OF SOIL BROUGHT INTO THIS PROPERTY. MOVING DIRT AROUND TRYING TO PUT IN THAT BULKHEAD. YES, YES, WE DID PROBABLY SOME INTO THAT WENT LANDS AND I WILL MITIGATE THAT WITH THE DP.
I WANT TO PRESERVE THE PCN MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE DOES AND THAT IS THE NEXT STEP AFTER I GET IT OUT OF THE CONSERVATION AREA BUT GREAT INTENTIONS AND I'M WORKING WITH ALL THE PLANNERS HERE AND I FEEL THEY'VE BEEN VERY DISINGENUOUS MANY I'VE BEEN DOWN THIS TRAIL 15 TIMES TRYING TO GET A SMALL SCALE [INDISTINCT] THERE'S HOUSES OF PCN'S, THERE'S POOLS OF PCN'S.
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IT'S VERY ARBITRARY. THEY'RE BIASED AND I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THEY HAVE MY BEST INTERESTS IN MINDS WHO ARE THE PCN BEST INTERESTS BUT THIS REPORT IS FULL OF INACCURACIES.THEY QUOTE THE SOIL TYPE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY IT, HERE'S THE DEFINITION THAT IS BLACK MUCK FROM PLANT DEBRIS AND PLANTS AND TREES DECAYING AN IT IS TRUE BLACK MUCK SWAMP.
IF CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE SLIDES.
YEAH. THAT IS NOT BLACK MUCK THAT [INDISTINCT] WILL NOT HOLD WATER TO SAVE IT'S LIFE.
THE OTHER REPORT SAYS IT'S WETLANDS.
IT IS NOT WETLANDS. DO HAVE AN ISSUE.
I PUSH DIRT FURTHER THAN SHOULD HAVE AND I'LL MITIGATE THAT.
I'M PURSUING THAT WITH DEP. I DO NOT WANT TO BE IN VIOLATION OF ANYTHING. MY INTENTIONS ARE GOOD.
I BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I DID THIS FIRST PCN A FEW YEARS AGO IS THE BUBBLE MAP FROM AERIAL PHOTOS WHATEVER AND THEY DIDN'T SEE THAT AS THE RIVER BANK.
IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE PCN ONE, THE BROWN, YOU'LL SEE THE BROWN AND GREEN. THERE'S TWO HOUSES.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DREW THE LINES ON WHERE THE HOUSES WERE.
WELL THERE'S A RIVER BANK ALL THE WAY CONNECTING THOSE AREAS BECAUSE RIGHT THROUGH THERE I'M ASKING THE UP LANDS TO BE RECOGNIZED. I'M NOT TRYING TO DESTROY ANYTHING. I'M TRYING TO PRESERVE IT THE REPORT HAS ISSUES ABOUT THIS URBAN SPRAWL.
YOU GOT TO BE CAN IING ME ABOUT URBAN SPRAWL.
THIS IS DEVELOPED NEIGHBORHOOD, ONE HOUSE.
I DON'T THINK THAT FALLS UNDER THE CATEGORY OF URBAN SPRAWL AND . . . AND I HAVE NO OTHER IMPACTS THAN HUNDREDS OF OTHERS HOUSES ON BLACK CREEK ON THE IMPACT OF THIS ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK IT'S NEGLIGIBLE AT BEST. I'M JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.
I HAVE FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN IT.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM BUILD A DREAM HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY.
I HAVE MY DREAM HOUSE. YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T COME OUT, WILL I BE UPSET? SURE.
MY DREAM IS INTACT BUT IT'S BEEN VERY US FROM TRAILING DISINGENUOUS ARBITRARY DIFFERENT ANSWERS FOR DIFFERENT QUESTIONS I'M TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND HERE'S THE DEFINITION OF THAT SOIL THAT IT IS NOT.
IT IS CLEARLY NOT WETLANDS. IT IS NOT URBAN SPRAWL.
IT IS NOT A DETRIMENT TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M
MORE THAN HAPPY TO HEAR THEM. >> HANG YOU HER LN HAPPEN.
>> I DO HAVE ONE. MR. LENAHAN, DID YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE STILL WAITING ON A PERMIT?
>> I AM PURSUING THE PERMITTING AFTER THE FACT AND I'M WORKING WITH JASON WHO IS DPE AND IT'S A PROCESS AND IT'S A LENGTHY PROCESS PROBABLY 9-10. SO I'M INTERACTING WITH HIM E.
MAILING. THEY'RE PROCEEDING GOING TO ASSESS SOME FINE AND . . . THAT'S WHAT I EXPECT BUT WE ARE
6 MONTHS INTO THAT. >> THANK YOU.
>> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS STAGE? ALL RIGHT. AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE TWO COMMENT CARDS.
SANDRA ROSS OR WILL HAVE ASS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE A COMMENT, AGAIN IT IS TIMED HAT 3 MINUTES AND WE WILL YOU POSTED WHERE YOU ARE. IF YOU WOULD START IF YOU TWO GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS MORE THE RECORD AND THEN PROCEED.
>> CERTAINLY. I AM SANDRA RASS AND LIVE AT 3379 WILL DEERNESS CIRCLE WHICH IS AT THE BACK END OF WILDERNESS DRIVE WHERE THIS PROPERTY SITS THEM SAY A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS SO I HAVE PROCEEDED EVIDENCE NINE SETS OF PHOTOS UP THERE OF FIVE PICTURES EACH SET.
THE FIRST PHOTO IS WILDERNESS DRIVE HIGH AND DRY RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REZONED. AND IT IS THE ONLY ROAD CONNECTING WILDERNESS CIRCLE AND 79 HOMES OUT TO SAFETY IF WE GET ANOTHER FLOOD. THE NEXT PICTURE IN THAT SAME AREA IS ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2017, THE DAY AFTER HURRICANE IRMA HIT US. THE WATER IN THE CENTER OF THAT ROAD LEADING THROUGH THAT WETLANDS IS SIX FEET DEEP.
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MY SON-IN-LAW BROUGHT IN A TRAILER AND PEOPLE WERE STANDING ON THAT TRAILER RIDING THROUGH THAT WATER CHEST DEEP.AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A ROW BOAT.
IT CONTAINS PEOPLE IN THAT SECOND PHOTO AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY COMING OUT OF MR. LENAHAN'S DRIVEWAY.
THE NEXT THREE PICTURES ARE THE TWO OF THE RESIDENTS ON WILDERNESS DRIVE PRIOR TO EVEN GETTING TO THE WENT LAND PRESERVE AREA. AT 3195 AND 3198 WILDERNESS DRIVE. THEY ARE THOSELY FLOODED.
THEY HAD TO BE GUTTED. THEY HAD TO BE REBUILT FROM THE INSIDE OUT. THE APPLICANT DIVIDED HIS PROPERTY SOMETIME BETWEEN 2008 AND 2010.
THERE IS NO TAX RECORD ON THAT NEW PARCEL UNTIL 2021.
NONE. THE PARCEL RECORD NOW A MONTH LATER AFTER THE SIGN WENT UP FOR REZONING SAYS IT IS .65 ACRES TO RUSSELL AND 2.4 ACRES OF WET LAND.
ACCORDING TO WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE IN 2002 PCN MEANT THAT I COULD NOT CLEAR THAT I COULD NOT CUT I COULD NOT TAKE OUT VEGETATION AND I COULD NOT BUILD IN MY OWN PCN ZONE SECTION OF MY YARD. AND YET, HERE HE HAS CLEARED AND BULKHEADED AND IT WAS DESIGNATED AND IS STILL DESIGNATED PCN.
WHILE THAT 5.56 ACRES MAYBE LARGE ENOUGH FOR THE MAN WHO INTENDS TO OBTAIN IT AND BUILD ON IT REQUIRES SETBACKS FROM THE ANOTHER SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT CAN - ONLY POLLUTE THE WETLANDS.
OTHER THE BLACK CREEK AND IT SITS RIGHT ON THE RIVER.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MRS. RASS.
THE NEXT CARD I HAVE IS JIM KUEHN.
>> I RESIDE HAT 3393 WILDERNESS CIRCLE IN MCCRAE LANDING AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1984. WE HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ARE AN IMPORTANT RIGHT FOR PROPERTY OWNERS WHICH ENABLE THEM TO UTILIZE THEIR PROPERTIES AS THEY SEE FIT, PROVIDED THAT THEY USE PROPER PERMIT AS LONG AS THAT USE IS PROPERLY PERMITTED, APPROVED, AND AUTHORIZED BY ALL THE PERTINENT AGENCIES. ADDITIONALLY, THE ANTICIPATED USE SHOULD NOT CAUSE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING AREA OR ITS RESIDENTS. THE APPLICANT WISHES TO CHANGE THE BRAN DEN FIELD PCN AREA, WHICH IS DESIGNATED WETLANDS, THE ENTIRE . . . IS DESIGNATED ON THE PLACERS MAP OF MAY 24 THIS YEAR. FROM BRAN DEN FIELD HE WANTS TO CHANGE IT FROM . . . PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK AND THAT AREA IS TO PROTECT ENVIRONMENTLY SENSITIVE LANDS HYDRAULIC -- HYDROLOGY -- ANYWAY, SENSITIVE LANDS AND PROTECTING WILDLIFE HAS BEEN AT THAT TIME. HE WANTS TO CHANGE TO IT THE URBAN CORE 10 FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING POTENTIAL RESIDENTIAL USE. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION HAS BEEN RECENTLY BULKHEADED AND BACK FIELD INCLUDING POTENTIAL WENT LANDS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A FOOTPRINT LARGE ENOUGH ON WHICH A HOME MIGHT BE BUILT. IT APPEARS THAT THESE MODIFICATION HAVE BEEN COMPLETED WITHOUT VALID PERMITS OR AUTHOR SITUATIONS FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. THEREFORE, THE SITE IS IN NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE DEPARTMENT'S RULES AND REGULATIONS WHICH WAS CONFIRMED TO THE APPLICANT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION BY EMAIL DATED JUNE 2ND AND I THINK EACH OF YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT EMAIL FROM MR. [NAME]. CONSIDERING THE BUFFERS AN SETBACKS REQUIRED FOR THE ADJACENT SOR BLACK CREEK FOR ANY SEPTIC TANKS IS QUESTIONABLE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE ENOUGH ROOM LEFT FOR ANY SIZE STRUCTURE.
MCCRAE LANDING WAS BUILT IN THE LATE 1970S-80S WHICH IS
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SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY THE BRAN DEN FIELD PRIMARY CONSERVATION NETWORK. WE ARE A SMALL QUIET FRIENDLY COMMUNITY THAT'S EXPERIENCED FLOODING IN THE PAST, MOST RECENTLY IN 2017 WHEN HURRICANE IRMA HIT THE AREA.WE HAVE NOT BEEN AFFORDED ANY ASSURANCES THAT WHATEVER THE APPLICANT HAS PLANNED WON'T PUT US IN ANY ADDITIONAL JEOPARDY FROM FUTURE FLOODING. IN CONCLUSION, AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE ABOVE POINTS, IN MY OPINION, THE
APPLICATION SHOULD BE DENIED. >> THANK YOU MR. KUEHN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO BE HEARD ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? IF NOT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF THE AGENDA OF THIS AGENDA AND OPEN IT FOR COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
>> ASK THE APPLICANT. >> MR. LENAHAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND BEFORE WE GO INTO THAT?
>> I CAN ASSURE YOU -- >> MR. LENAHAN, PLEASE ADDRESS
THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. >> I THEN SETBACKS AND ALL THAT ARE DIFFERENT ISSUES AND I WOULD LOVE TO ADDRESS THEM BUT I'M NOT READ UP ON THOSE BECAUSE I NEED TO GET IT OUT OF THE CONSERVATION AREA. I'M NOT TRYING TO SKIRT ANYTHING. I'M SURE THEY'LL BE ADDRESSED.
>> ALL RIGHT, NOW WE WILL BRING TO IT THE COMMISSION FOR
DISCUSSION. >> YOU WANTING TO FIRST?
>> IF I MAY. THERE'S A SERIES OF THINGS THAT ARE CONCERNING WITH THIS APPLICATION, BUT SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD ASK STAFF TO CLARIFY THE RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CLARIFY THE 13 POINTS REGARDING SPRAWL.
THOSE ARE INDICATORS THAT ARE LISTED.
WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS INDICATIVE OF ALL OF THOSE BUT IT IS ALTERING THE NATURAL SYSTEM THAT EXISTS OUT THERE AND IT IS COUNT TORE THE PCN INTENT AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
>> OKAY. >> OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MR. PUCKHABER.
>> I HAVE A FEW BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION MANY I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE SUPPORT THE STAFF SUPPORT, WHICH WOULD BE IN DENIAL OF THIS APPLICATION.
>> SECOND THAT. >> SECOND BY MR. GARRISON.
MOTION BY MR. PUCKHABER. >> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT WHAT I FEAR SOME FLAWS HERE. THE FIRST ONE IS THIS WORK HAS NEVER BEEN PERMITTED. SO, I THINK YOU'RE PREMATURE TO BE IN HERE. IT'S PREMATURE UNTIL YOU GET THROUGH THAT PERMITTING PROCESS AND COME BACK WITH A VALID PERMIT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE PUTTING UP, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A HEIGHT LIMIT ON BUILDINGS IN THIS COUNTY.
IT'S LIKE PUTTING UP A 10 STORY BUILDING AND THEN COMING AND GOING OH, I DIDN'T KNOW. CAN I GET A PERMIT FOR THAT? I MEAN, THIS WAS CLEARLY CONSERVATION LAND N. FACT THAT BULKHEAD LOOKS TO ME LIKE IT'S CREATING A PROBLEM FOR THE WILDLIFE GETTING TO THE WATER, WHICH WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF HAVING A NATURAL RIVER BANK THERE IN THAT CONSERVATION AREA.
BUT THE PERMIT IS A REAL PROBLEM.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE APPROVING ANYTHING UNTIL THAT PERMITTING PROCESS FINISHES. I WOULD SAY THAT THE APPLICANT IF YOU DISAGREE WITH THE COUNTY ASSESSMENT OF THE TYPE OF SOILS AND ALL THERE THERE ARE ENGINEERING COMPANIES WHO SPECIALIZE IN THAT AND CAN TEST THOSE HOLES AN GIVE YOU A REPORT WHICH YOU CAN PRESENT THAT SAYS HERE'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON WITH THOSE SOILS. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT I WAS LIKING AT THIS. I WAS WONDERING ABOUT.
WHERE IS THE DRIVEWAY GOING TO BE FOR THIS PARCEL OF PROPERTY? LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOT TO GO RIGHT ACROSS THE PCN.
>> THE BROWN AREA IS SKIRTING BEHIND THE HOUSE THAT'S THERE.
IT WILL GO THROUGH THAT HOUSE. >> OKAY.
SO, THAT'S KIND OF MY THINKING ON THIS.
SO, I WILL -- OH, I MADE THE MOTION.
>> IS THERE OTHER DISCUSSION COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL THE
QUESTION? >> I JUST WANT TO ECHO MR. PUCKHABER'S COMMENTS. I DON'T PERSONALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER HOUSE THERE.
THERE'S 79 HOUSES THERE. I I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
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ONE MORE HOUSE. I THINK IT'S OUT OF ORDER.THAT'S MY PRIMARY OBJECTION TO IT.
IT'S OUT OF ORDER. ONCE THAT WERE CLEARED UP IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO PURSUE IT.
>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MR. AKDISON.
>> LOOKING AT THE FLOODING, WILL IT CREATE MORE FLOODING IN THE AREA? I KNOW THESE PICTURES ARE DURING A HURRICANE BUT IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING TO CREATE MORE FLOODING AND FIT DOES CREATE MORE FLOODING I HAVE AT LEAST TEN STUDENTS ON THAT ROAD AND THEY'RE ALL BUSSED SO DOES THAT CREATE WHERE THE BUS CANNOT GET THROUGH IF THAT
PROPERTY CREATES MORE FLOODING? >> WELL, I'M NOT AN EVENING NEAR SO LET ME START WITH THAT. THIS APPEARED TO BE A HIGH AREA, WHICH THEN DROPS DOWN INTO A LOW AREA.
THE ONLY THING I COULD SUGGEST IS THAT IF IMPERVIOUS AREAS ADDED A STRUCTURE DRIVEWAY POOL AREA PATIOS THINGS LIKE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS AREA THAT THE WATER WILL PERCOLATE DOWN AND RUN OFF INTO THE LOWER AREAS.
>> MR. DAVIS. >> I AGREE WITH RALPH'S COMMENTS BUT THIS IS AN EXTREMELY SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREA ALWAYS HAS BEEN STILL AND WILL PROBABLY BE THE FUTURE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE THE APPLICANT PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THE DEVELOPMENT STUFF BECAUSE HE DISTURBED THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT SO IT'S HARD TO MAKE A JUDGMENT WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL WORK BECAUSE WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL ENVIRONMENT LIKE BEFORE HE BUILT THE BULKHEAD AND BEFORE HE CREATED A SAND PILE OUT THERE I THE MIDDLE OF EVERYWHERE ELSE, BUT THIS IS TOO SENSITIVE AN AREA ENVIRONMENTALLY WISE TO
PROCEED ON WITH THIS THING. >> OTHER COMMENTS BY MEMBERS, ANY FURTHER. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT MR. ADDISON HAS VOTED ON THIS BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT THE SCHOOL POPULATION. SO THERE'S A MOTION TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF AGAINST THIS APPLICATION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE RECOMMENDATION, PLEASE STATE BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.
AS A REMINDER THIS ITEM WILL BE ON THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AGENDA ON TUESDAY, JUNE 28TH THOSE ITEMS START AT 5 P.M. SO AT THIS TIME WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT.
>> IF YOU WERE HERE JUST FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM AND YOU WISH TO
LEAVE AT THIS TIME THAT'S FINE. >> CLEAR THE ROOM AND YOU WON'T HAVE THE NOISE OF PEOPLE GOING OUT.
[2. Public Hearing to consider REZ-2022-03 (District 1, Comm. Cella) (M. Brown)]
>> SO AT THIS TIME I'LL CALL ON OUR ZONING CHIEF, MIKE BROWN TO, PRESENT THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA REZ 2022-3.
MR. BROWN. >> MADAM VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSION REZONING APPLICATION JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU ORIGINALLY IN APRIL AN BEEN CONTINUED.
IT'S BEEN CONTINUE UNTIL THIS DATE PRIMARILY FOR TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO INTERACT AND PRESENT THE PROPOSAL TO THE [INDISTINCT] ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN PASSED OUT TO YOU. - JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY I'LL GO OVER IT.
THE APPLICANT IS ST. JOHN'S CLASSICAL ACADEMY INC.
THE AGENT IS DIANE HUNCH INSTANCE.
THE REQUEST IS A ZONING CHANGE OF 1.6 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL TO PRIVATE SERVICES PS-1 THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 148
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[NAME] STREET IN THE FLOODING ISLAND PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSIONER ZELLA COMMISSIONER ONE AND . . . THIS WILL BE HEARD BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON THEIR JUNE 28TH MEETING. THIS PARCEL AS WELL AS THE PARCEL DIRECTLY NORTH OF THIS IS OWNED BY THE ST. JOHN'S CLASSICAL ACADEMY. THE PARCEL DIRECTLY NORTH IS THE EXISTING SITE OF CHARTER SCHOOL BY THE ACADEMY AND IS DESIGNATED PS-1 ZONING. FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS RURAL FRINGE AS WELL AS THE PARCEL DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH. PS-1 ZONING IS ALLOWED WITHIN THE RURAL FRINGE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND PUBLIC EDUCATION FACILITIES ARE ALLOWED IN THE PS-1 ZONING DISTRICT AS A CONDITIONAL USE. THE MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS YOU THE ZONING AND YOU CAN SEE AROUND IT IT IS PRIMARILY AR, AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONE TO GO THE SOUTHWEST AND TO THE EAST. AND THEN WE HAVE THE AERIAL SHOWING YOU THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL.AS I INDICATED THE REQUESTED CHANGE FOR ZONING AMENDMENT TO CHANGE 1.61 ACRES FROM A.R. TO PS-1, THE CHANGE TO THE PS ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE SUBJECT PARCEL WOULD ALLOW THE USE OF THE SITE CONSISTENT WITH THE USE IMMEDIATELY NORTH ON THE PARCEL IMMEDIATELY NORTH UNDER THE SAME OWNERSHIP.
THE PROPOSED PS-1 ZONING IS THE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE, THE FLOODING AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION ON MAY 18TH AND THEY PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL AND AS I INDICATED YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION AT YOUR SEAT. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST IS CAPABLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF APPLICATION Z-22-03 F. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BROWN? >> I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT MORE THE BOARD UP HERE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING ZONING MAP, IT SHOWS A.R. ON THE CORNER OF KANOVA IN COUNTY 220 OR SANCTUARY WAY IN THERE IT'S A.R. ZONING BUT IT'S GOT A BUNCH OF EITHER CONDOS OR TOWNHOUSES ON IT.
I THINK THERE WAS A LEGAL ACTION . . . THAT ALLOWED THEM TO DO THAT. MISS HUNCH INSTANCE MIGHT HAVE BEEN HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED. THERE IS A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT EVEN THOUGH IT IS SAYS A.R. . . . THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF CONDOS ON THAT CORNER AND THEY'RE BUILDING MORE.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION AT THIS TIME? SO, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE APPLICANT MISS HUTCHENS TO ADDRESS THE
COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I AM DIANE HUNCHINGS AND I'M HERE TO REPRESENT ST. JOHN'S CLASSICAL ACADEMY. WHEN WE INITIALLY OPENED, I CAN'T SAY THAT WE REALLY UNDERSTOOD BECAUSE WE WERE JUST LAY PEOPLE ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW PICK UP DROP OFF THAT SORT OF THING SO INITIALLY WE DID NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY AND WE WENT TO WORK ON THAT WE HIRED ENGINEERS TO LOOK AT THE PATTERN. WE WERE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPACT WE HAD ON COUNTY ROAD 220 BECAUSE THAT'S A PRETTY QUICK THOROUGHFARE. IT'S VERY LARGE BEING FOUR LANES SO WE TOOK THE ADVICE OF THE EVENING NEAR.
WE REDIRECTED OUR TRAFFIC TO COME AROUND OLD HARD ROAD THAT ISN'T HAS BISPING AN HAS A MUCH LOWER SPEED LIMIT.
BY DOING THAT WE TOOK CARE OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT WERE COME FROM THE CONDOMINIUMS OR WHATEVER THAT IS TOWN HOMES BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES THAT COMPLAINED THE MOST INITIALLY AND PART OF THAT IS WHEN THE COUNTY ALLOWED DEVELOPMENT ON KANOVA NOBODY ACCOUNTED FOR RIGHT HAND TURN LANE SO IT WAS FRUSTRATING TO SIT IN LONG LINE OF TRAFFIC AND YOU WANTED TO JUST TURN RIGHT. AS A MATTER OF FACT SOME OF THEM CAME ACROSS THE STREET WHILE WE WERE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND SAID WE ARE SO GLAD YOU'RE BUILDING, MAYBE WE WILL GET OUR RIGHT TURN
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LANE. WE . . . PURCHASED SOME SOFTWARE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO DO A QUICKER DISMISSAL BECAUSE IT'S ALL COMPUTER ICED SO WE INVESTED IN THAT.WE STILL HAD CARS PARKING ON THE RIGHT OF RYE . . . BECAUSE THERE ARE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB IF THEY GET THERE AN HOUR EARLY SO WE ASKED THE COUNTY TO PUT UP NO PARKING SIGNS SO THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THEY PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SO OUR HEAD MASTER WHO IS COLONEL MATT JOHNSON . . . HE WROTE A STERN HEAD MASTER LETTER INFORMING THEN IT'S ILLEGAL TO PARK IN A STREET AND TO PLEASE NOT DO THAT IN THE FUTURE. SO WE ADDRESSED THAT PROBLEM AND NOW THAT SEEMS TO BE RESOLVED AS WELL.
I WILL SAY THAT IN THE PAST YEAR THE SCHOOL ITSELF AND COMMISSIONER SELL LA HAVE HAD NO COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WELCOME TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH THE FLEMING ISLAND ADVISORY COUNCIL.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE A POOR NEIGHBOR.
WE HAVE ONLY HAD ONE NEIGHBOR THAT HAS COME TO US ABOUT THE PROJECT AND IT'S A PROPERTY THAT ABUTS THE PROPERTY THAT WE PURCHASE. OUR PLAN FOR THAT PROPERTY WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS IN YOUR MINUTES FROM OUR MEETING WITH THE FLEMING ADVISORY COUNCIL IS REALLY PASSIVE USE MANY WE ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR FIELDS FOR THE KIMDZ WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING HIGH IMPACT THERE. THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID IS WHATEVER WE HAD A VENTS AT THIS SCHOOL, THE SCHOOL IS TOO BIG TO HAVE A SCHOOL WE'D CONVENIENT SO WE HAVE TAKEN OUR EVENTS DOWN TO JUST TWO OR THREE GRADES AS A TIME AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THOSE FOLKS EASILY I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE ADDRESS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> MR. BOURRÉ. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE US PREVIOUSLY, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION IT WAS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL PARKING. IS IT THAT OR IS IT GOING TO BE
FIELDS? >>, NO IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A SOCCER FIELD SO THAT OUR SOCCER TEAM CAN PRACTICE ON IT.
RIGHT NOW THE SPACE AT THE SOCCER TEAM IS USING GETS SO OVERUSED WE CAN'T KEEP GRASS HEALTHY ON IT AND IT'S NOT REGULATION SIZES SO WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT PARCEL BACK IN FOR IT WILL BE DIVIDED. THE PARTES THE MOST TO THE SOUTH WILL BE A BIG FIELD AND THEN THERE WILL BE SOME OTHER PLAY AREAS BETWEEN THAT FIELD AND THE FIELD THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
>> SO THERE WILL NOT BE IN DAYS TO THE PARKING OR TO THE TRAFFIC
BECAUSE OF HOW WE'VE DONE THINGS NOW HAND WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT WE WILL JUST KEEP DOING THAT AND NOT HAVE ANY DISH NATURAL
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. PUCKHABER.
>> I DO. MS. HUNCHINGS WE HAVE GOT THE CAC. YOU'RE ONG WITH WHAT THEY SAY
>> DID I READ IN THE PAPER THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING QUITE WELL.
YOU'RE ENROLLMENT IS UP. IT SEEMS TO TRANSLATE AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH THE 12TH GRADE.
YOU HAVE STUDENTS DRIVE INTO THIS SCHOOL.
>> WE PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT EIGHT RIGHT NOW.
>> TWHER ARE THEY PARK SOMETHING.
>> THEY'RE PARKING IN THE PARKING LOT BY THE SCHOOL.
>> YOU HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THAT?
>> BECAUSE IT WAS A CHURCH WE WERE FORTUNATE TO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF PARKING THIS AND WE INCREASED THAT WHEN WE ORIGINALLY BUILT OR DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY.
>> OKAY, THAT'S ALL. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
>> I GOT ONE QUESTION. DO YOU HAVE ANY FUTURE PLANS FOR EXPANSION BEYOND WHERE YOU'RE GOING NOW TO THIS LOT NEXT DOOR?
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS. THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE, MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF YOU DID WHERE WERE
YOU GOING TO GO OUTSIDE? >> I CAN TELL YOU IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO CROSS THE ROAD THAT NEXT TO US ON THE LEFT SIDE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT ROAD. I FORGOT THE NAME OF IT.
IT'S A VERY SMALL ROAD. IT APPEARS THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF DRAINAGE PROBLEMS BECAUSE IT HAS A STEEP DITCH ON EACH
IT'S NOT MUCH MORE THAN A DRIVEWAY.
>> WE HAVE SKON TAKTD THE OWNER ALONG 220 AN HE'S WAITING FOR THAT TO BE GEFLD COMMERCIALLY AND THE PRICE TAG HE HAS ON THE PROPERTY IS A COMMERCIAL PRICE TAG.
SO, WE COULDN'T AFFORD THAT. >> WHICH PIECE ON 220?
>> ON THE WEST SIDE OF CLOG ROAD OPPOSITE OF US.
>> OKAY. I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR THE FICA TO
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WORK. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT'S IN THE
MASTER PLAN. >> THAT'S WHAT THE OWNER THINKS
IS GOING TO HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ANYBODY ELSE ON THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. ADVERTISEMENT I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE COMMISSION FOR A
MOTION. >> I'LL MOVE THE STAFF REPORT.
>> I'LL SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. PUCKHABER AND SECOND BY MR. BOURRÉ.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT THIS IS HOW YOU HANDLE AN APPLICATION WHEN YOU HAVE OPPOSITION. YOU MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
YOU ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. YOU DON'T TRY TO KIR COUPLE CONVENIENT THE PROCESS. AS A STATE CERTIFIED CONTRACTOR IF I WERE TO TRY TO BUILD A HOUSE WITHOUT A PERMIT I WOULD BE IN BIG TROUBLE AND THIS IS HOW YOU GO ABOUT IT SO I APPLAUD
THAT WAS DONE PROPERLY. >> THANK YOU.
MR. GARRISON. >> MR. GILL I THINK WAS THE SINGLE RESIDENT THAT'S NEXT TO THE SCHOOL THAT HAD SOME CONCERNS AND BY THE FACT HE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT I'M ASSUMING ALL HIS CONCERNS WERE RESOLVED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL AN
EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. >> ALL RIGHT.
I THINK WE ARE READY TO CALL THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ANY WHO POST SAME SIGN. MOTION CARRIES.
[Old Business/New Business]
THAT CONCLUDES THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.AT THIS TIME WE NEED TO GO ON TO OLD BUSINESS AND NEW BUSINESS AN I'VE BEEN ADVISED BY ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER STEWART THAT SHE HAD SOMETHING SHE WANTED TO PRESENT.
>> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO JUST A CUPPING OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS. OUR NEXT MEETING IS JULY 5TH, SO JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW IN CASE SOME OF Y'ALL ARE DECIDING TO GO OUT OF TOWN 4TH OF JULY.
SO IF WE DON'T HEAR ANY ISSUES, WE'LL JUST KEEP TRUCKING RIGHT ALONG. I'M GOING TO ASSUME BY YOUR SILENCE WE ARE GOING TO KEEP TRUCKING ON.
THE NEXT THING IS JUNE 28TH AT 1 P.M. WE HAVE A WORKSHOP HERE IN CHAMBERS. THE WORKSHOP WILL BE LED BY WGI, WHICH IS OUR CONTRACTOR OR CONSULTANT THAT IS HELPING US
REWORK OR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> WHAT TIME IS IT?
>> IT IS AT 1 P.M. AND DEFINITELY HAS AN END TIME OF PROBABLY 3:30 BECAUSE WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING THIS ROOM SAME DAY AT 4 P.M. BUT THIS IS A TIME FOR STAKEHOLDERS.
WE WILL HAVE FOLKS THAT WE ARE INVITING THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO US ABOUT SOME ISSUES THEY THINK OUR CODE HAS, BUT IF YOU KNOW OF FOLKS THAT HAVE ISSUES WITH THE CODE OR YOU GUYS BEING A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT HAS SOME IDEAS OR THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED, THAT'S THE MEETING TO SPEAK OUT.
SO PLEASE PUT THAT ON YOUR CALENDARS AN SHARE WITH OTHERS.
>> I UNFORTUNATELY WILL NOT BE HERE AT THAT TIME.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO US BRING US?
>> I HAVE A WHOLE LIST. >> IF YOU DO SEND ME AN EMAIL FOR REAL. KNOW THEY HAVE ISSUES. KS THAT - I SAID SEND THEM TO ME AND I'LL SEND THEM RIGHT TO THEM.
>> THAT'S ON THE 28TH. >> THAT'S ON THE 28, YES SIR.
THAT WILL BE A BUSY DAY FOR US AS STAFF THAT MORNING WHEN WE HAVE BCC WORKSHOP FROM 9:00 TO NOON I THINK, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL BE DISCUSSING WGI WILL BE THERE TO KIND OF TELL THEM WHERE THEY ARE SO FAR ON THEIR CODE REWORK AND THEN WE WILL ALSO WE HAD SOME Y'ALL REMEMBER BECAUSE WE BROUGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOU ALREADY, WE HAD A FEBRUARY 22ND I THINK WORKSHOP WITH THE BOARD AND THEY GAVE US SOME NEW DELIVERABLE RS ON LANDSCAPING AN OTHER THINGS IN THE CODE SO AT THE MORNING WORKSHOP THAT DAY WE AT STAFF WILL BE DISCUSSING THOSE THINGS WITH THE BCC. THEN WE WILL GO INTO THE STAKEHOLDERS MEETING WITH WGI. THAT'S ALL I HAD MS. MARY.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> ARE ARE THE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. STEWART.
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ANY ITEMS OF OLD OR NEW BUSINESS?[3. Public Hearing to Consider Transmittal of Proposed Changes to LA TRA Policy 1.1.3]
IF NOT, I'LL OPEN THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING.I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THIS.
SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD TO ADDRESS COMMISSION I'LL CLOSE THE FINAL COMMENT PERIOD. AND AS HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR JULY 5TH, 2022.
I WISH EVERYONE A WONDERFUL 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY WEEKEND AND --
>> ADAM CHAIR BEFORE YOU ADJOURN I WANTED TO ASK STAFF WHAT'S OUR
AGENDA LOOKING LIKE IN JULY? >> THERE ARE A FEW PROJECTS
COMING, APPLICATIONS COMING. >> IT'S NOT THE NUMBER OF THEM.
>> DO WE NEED AN EARLIER START TIME I THINK? ALL RIGHT. SO, I WILL NOW DECLARE THAT THE
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