May 31, 2022 Charter Review Commission

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> LET'S CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS THE MEETING OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

AND WE PUT LIKE TO START AND HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

THEN WE WILL BE LED IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

THANK YOU. >> OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH

[WELCOME]

LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU.

E-MAIL BE SEATED. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE

[ROLL CALL]

>> GLENN TAYLOR. >> DAVID THEUS.

>> TIKA (ROLL CALL). >> AND ALSO WE HAVE WITH US TODAY OUR ESTEEMED COUNTY ATTORNEY AND FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE CHRISTINE. AND WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TONIGHT. WE ARE IN VERY CAPABLE HANDS

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO START WITH APPROVAL OF LAST MEETING'S MINUTES. EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH IT AND WE NEED A MOTION.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? I HAVE, JUST A COUPLE FOR THE RECORD. ACTUALLY, SECTION TWO ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT. THEY READ BBC, I THINK THAT

SHOULD BE CORRECTED. >> I AM SORRY SECTION TWO ITEMS SECTION AND A.

>> I AM SORRY THE REPORT, EXCUSE ME.

MY MISTAKE. I AM GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME.

THIS IS FOR THE MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR DELETIONS? I SEE NONE.

WE WILL HAVE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES SAY AYE. OPPOSED? IT CARRIES. VERY GOOD.

THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. WE ARE ABOUT TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS ON THE THREE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT. I NOTICED THAT WE HAVE THREE GUESTS THAT JUST CAME IN, JUST TO OBSERVE.

THAT WAS MY QUESTION. IF YOU WANT TO TALK GIVE US A CARD. THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS, WE WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING, HEARING THEN WE WILL CLOSE IT AND BRING IT BACK FOR A MOTION. EACH ITEM WILL HAVE TO BE VOTED ON AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE NEXT ONE.

ANY QUESTION ON THAT, THAT IS THE PROCESS WE WILL GO THROUGH.

LET'S TAKE THE FIRST ITEM. THIS IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

[1.  Final Public Hearing to Consider Charter Amendment For Cost of Living Increase to Salaries of Clay County Commissioners]

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? I SEE NONE, WE WILL CLOSE IT ON THIS ITEM AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SEND THIS

FOR AS A RECOMMENDATION. >> COMMENT WILL BE AFTER WE OPEN

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IT UP FOR DISCUSSION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE SECTION

TWO.TWO C. >> A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? A SECOND BY MR. MCNAIR.

OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. >> FROM READING THROUGH THE MINUTES, THE REASON THAT IT WAS PUSHED TO THE RACE SO TO SPEAK IS BECAUSE IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T GET QUALIFIED OR MORE PEOPLE WOULDN'T WANT TO BECOME COMMISSIONERS, ZECHARIAH?

WHAT IS YOUR REASON? >> SOME PEOPLE WOULD NOT WANT TO

DO IT BECAUSE OF THE SALARY. >> I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE CASE BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE QUALIFIED TO RUN.

IT WAS MY POSITION THAT THE MOVE TO MAKE THE SALARY PACKAGE WHERE IT IS NOT WAS PUNITIVE IN NATURE.

IT HASN'T BEEN INCREASED IN A NUMBER OF YEARS AND COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DESERVE TO BE AMENDED FOR THAT.

>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- >> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SO WE HAVE, IF THERE IS NO MORE DISCUSSION WE WILL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS ITEM AND APPROVING IT TO MOVE FORWARD SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? ONE OPPOSED.

1-TO-3, OPPOSED. SO WE HAVE SIX APPROVE, THREE AGAINST. FOR ACTUALLY, EIGHT APPROVED.

THREE AGAINST. THANK YOU.

SO THE MOTION CARRIES. MOVING ONTO NUMBER TWO.

[2.  Final Public Hearing to Consider Charter Amendment Removing Term Limit Provision for Elected County Constitutional Offices]

THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN ON THIS ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE IT. WE WILL BREAK IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS

ONE FORWARD? >> A MOTION TO APPROVE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENT TO SECTION THREE-POINT THREE-POINT ONE OF THE CLAY COUNTY HOME RULE CHARTER REVISING ELECTED COUNTY

CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES. >> SECOND PERIOD.

>> OKAY, IT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? NO.

SEEING NONE, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? ONE, TWO, THREE, THREE OPPOSED. SO 8-3.

[3.  Final Public Hearing to Consider Charter Amendment Revising Appointment of Charter Review Commission]

WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ONE.

SINGLE COMMENT WE WILL CLOSE IT AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AGAIN FOR A VOTE. DO WE A MOTION TO PROCEED? COUNTY HOME RULE CHARTER REVISING AMENDMENTS AND REVISIONS BY CHART REVIEW COMMISSION.

>> WE HAVE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION THAT HAS A SECOND, IT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS FROM THE GROUP? I SEE NONE WE WILL TAKE A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR OF MOVING THIS MOTION FORWARD ALSO, SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? IT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

VERY GOOD. I AM ALSO, THE NEXT ITEM IS TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON ANY TOPIC.

[2.  Approval of the Charter Review Commission 2021/2022 Final Report]

NEW BUSINESS. THE FIRST ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION FINAL REPORT.

MR. TAYLOR HAS GONE THROUGH GREAT LENGTHS TO PUT THIS REPORT

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THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION THE SECOND WAS THIS SHOULD READ BB LETTERS C AND 7BBD. I'M LOOKING FOR THE FINAL REPORT. I DON'T THINK I HAVE IT UP HERE.

ANY QUESTIONS, DOES ANYONE DISAGREE WITH THAT? SECTION FIVE, AT THE END OF THE SECOND SENTENCE AND PARAGRAPH IT READ UNUSUAL SO I WANT EVERYONE TO TAKE A LOOK.

SEE WHAT THEY THINK.

>> SURE. THAT WAS SECTION FOUR.

THE BE BC ASKED STAFF TO CREATE IT TURNOVER PACKAGE FOR FUTURE COMMISSION. THIS WOULD INCLUDE MEMBERS RECEIVE TRAINING CONCERNING NOT ONLY THE SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS AS AND THE VOTING CONFLICT, AND CHAPTER -- OF THE FOLDER STATUTE AND IT ENDS THERE.

THAT WORDING IS FINE. >> ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

>> I'M SORRY SAY THAT AGAIN. IT'S NOT ONLY EXACTLY -- SO THE

WORD IS NOT -- DELETE THOSE. >> AFTER THE SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS SHOULD BE REMOVED AND REPLCED WITH A.

( INDISCERNIBLE ) THE AND AFTER SUNSHINE LAW AND PUBLIC RECORDS.

WE WILL DELETE THAT. >> ANOTHER COMMENT, SECTION FOUR, THE LAST SENTENCE AND ADDITION TO REVIEWING PRESENTATIONS IT IS RECOMMENDED BEFORE THE THIRD MEETING.

MY ONLY CONCERN THERE WAS, HE MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE OR PRACTICING AT THAT POINT. BUT WE ARE ASKING OR PUTTING A NAME IN THERE AND SET UP A POSITION, IT COULD BE THE CLAY COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE ATTORNEY COULD DETERMINE WHO THAT PERSON

SHOULD BE. >> MY THOUGHTS, IN THE HISTORY AND WITH THE COUNTY, OFFERING ANY OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE THE HISTORY SINCE THEY LIVED AND CREATED A LOT OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE ELSE CAN FULFILL THAT.

>> SUPPOSE HE IS NOT AVAILABLE, WHAT DO YOU DO?

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>> IF WE ARE GOING TO COMMIT THIS TO PUBLIC RECORD, WE COULD LEAVE IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS A RECOMMENDATION, MARK WOULD BE THE PERSON BUT DO WE WANT TO CALL THE PERSON OUT AND THAT IS

A QUESTION FOR THE GROUP. >> GOD FORBID IF HE IS DEAD, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM TOO. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE HAV SOME INFORMED HISTORICAL ACCOUNT.

>> WE WILL DELETE ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

AND THE OTHER ONE I HAD IS PROBABLY NOT ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WE WILL LET THAT ONE GO. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE IN THE FILE BUT I KNOW IT TOOK WEEKS FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THAT ANY CHANGE WE MADE WHATSOEVER INCLUDING A CHANGE WOULD HAVE TO GO ON THE BALLOT AND BE VOTED ON AND SO FORTH. I AM NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE IN THE PACKAGE WHERE IT WOULD BE EXPLAINED AT THE BEGINNING BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, WE CAME IN HERE AND SOME PEOPLE CAME IN WITH 5-10 THINGS UNSPENT RESEARCH AND TIME WITH DIFFERENT THINGS TO REALIZE. YOU KNOW THEY MAY NOT HAVE WANTED 10-15 THINGS THROWN OUT AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME RESEARCHING, MAYBE THEY WILL PUT -- PICKED HIGH-PRIORITY ITEMS THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE KNOWN AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

>> COURTNEY, I HAVE A QUESTION. A PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

WE CLOSE OUT EVERYTHING TONIGHT, AND THEN LEFT IT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS TO GO BACK TO TERESA WITH SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT COULD BE IN THE TURNOVER PACKAGE. CAN THAT BE CONSIDERED AN

INFORMAL RECOMMENDATION? >> JUST AS LONG AS YOU INDIVIDUALLY SEND THE REQUEST AND SHE CAN COMPILE THEM.

THERE CAN BE COMMUNICATION VIA E-MAIL OR NO REPLY AT ALL.

JUST SEND YOUR REQUEST TO TERESA, AND IF YOU HAVE EIGHT CERTAIN ITEMS INCLUDED ENTITIES RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD, SO THE BOARD CAN DECIDE WHETHER IT IS PART OF THE PACKAGE.

>> YOU'RE SEEING AS IN THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS?

SANCHEZ. >> THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD DO IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT. ANYBODY ELSE, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES TO MIND, LET'S NOT FORGET THIS OR PLEASE REMEMBER THIS. JUST PUT IT IN THERE.

OKAY, SO GIVEN THAT, WITH THESE EDITS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FINAL REPORT WITH THE EDITS? ARE ICONIC MAKES THE MOTION. TANGIBLE SECOND IT.

>> MITCH SEC. IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[1.  Approval of Payment to Glenn A. Taylor, P.A., for Professional Legal Services]

THEN WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE LAST INVOICE OF MR. TAYLOR, THAT IS ON THE BACK OF THE LETTER, THE COVER LETTER FOR MR. TAYLOR?

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

MR. TAYLOR'S ( INDISCERNIBLE ). >> CONNIE HAS MADE A MOTION.

SECOND. ARE A VERY GOOD.

ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ON THIS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? THAT CARRIES. THANK YOU MR. TERRY.

[CRC MEMBER COMMENTS]

-- TAYLOR. >> THE NEXT THING IS CRC MEMBER COMMENTS. THE BOARD IS OPEN.

DO HAVE ANY COMMENTS? AS I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.

I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THIS PROCESS, BEING A PART OF THIS WONDERFUL COMMITTEE. IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

I THINK WE WORK VERY WELL. WE'VE RESPECTED EACH OTHER'S OPINIONS WHETHER WE AGREED OR DISAGREED.

I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

I WANT TO THANK THE OFFICERS AND THE PARTICIPATION FROM THE PUBLIC. IT HAS BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE?

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ANYWAY. >> I CHEATED I LOOKED OVER.

>> I DON'T THINK SO, YOU SPOKE FROM THE HEART.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD MY COMMENTS AS WELL.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME AND DEDICATION.

I KNOW IT WAS NOT EASY WE HAD A TOTAL OF 12 MEETINGS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF ALL OF THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE TO SUPPORT US. YOU WITHOUT A DOUBT MADE THINGS EASY, KEPT US OUT OF TROUBLE. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF ON THAT ONE.

I KNOW TERESA IS NOT HERE TONIGHT BUT CERTAINLY ALL HER GREAT DEBT OF GRATITUDE. OUR ALTERNATES WHO KEEP SHOWING UP AND HOPE THAT MAYBE ONE DAY THEY WILL GET ALONG, BUT I DON'T CARE, MAYBE WE DON'T BUT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE ANYWAY SO THANK YOU. TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

ONCE AGAIN, LIEUTENANT, AND THE OTHERS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, TAKING CARE OF THINGS THAT PROTECT US, WE APPRECIATE IT.

AND TO THE PUBLIC. TO THE FOLKS WHO SHOWED UP TONIHT. THANK YOU.

THIS IS WHAT MAKES IT WORTH IT TO SEE YOU COME, THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. THIS IS A GROUP OF CONCERNED CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME AND THIS IS DEMOCRACY IN ACTION AND WE APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I WOULD LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE A GREAT EVENING AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. COURTNEY, ANYTHING?

>> IF I COULD JUST EXPLAIN TO YOU PROCEDURALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THIS POINT. SINCE YOU APPROVE THE THREE MATTERS FOR THE BALLOT IN THE FINAL REPORT.

WE WILL TAKE THOSE ASKED STAFF TO THE JUNE 14 MEETING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD. THEY WILL BE PRESENTED WITH A RESOLUTION WHEREBY THEY WILL ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THE REPORT. THEY WILL THEN TAKE THAT AND DIRECT THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TO PLACE THOSE PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS ON THE 2022 GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT WHICH WILL BE ON THE NOVEMBER 8, ELECTION.

AND THE BOARD WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THE PUBLICATIONS IN

CONNECTION WITH THAT. >> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU

COURTNEY. >> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT TIME

THAT JUNE 14 MEETING IS? >> YES, IT STARTS AT 4:00 P.M.

AND THIS WILL JUST BE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE PLACED (

INDISCERNIBLE ). >> THE TIME CERTAIN ITEMS ARE

USUALLY THOSE FROM THE ZONING? >> IT STARTS AT 5:00 P.M. SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW MANY OTHER ITEMS WHETHER IT IS HARD BEFORE 5:00 P.M. I CAN TELL YOU ACTUALLY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE ANY ITEMS FOR PLAN CERTAIN -- TIME CERTAIN SO THIS SHOULD JUST FLOW.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, IF YOU WANT, TERESA AND I COULD GIVE YOU ( INDISCERNIBLE ) DEPENDING ON HOW

MANY ITEMS ARE ON THEIR. >> MORE THAN LIKELY I WILL ATTEND THAT MEETING AS THE CHAIR AND PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD.

ANY OTHER CLOSING COMMENTS. WE NEVER TURN DOWN A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY HAS A GROUP. SO MR. BOWLES HAS ASKED THAT WE GET TOGETHER FOR A COMMEMORATIVE PHOTO FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF THE MEETING. IF THERE IS NO OTHER COMMENTS,

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> MOTION TO ADJOURN.

>> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

WE ARE ADJOURNED, THANK

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.