PROCLAMATIONS/RESOLUTIONS

[12. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Collective Bargaining Agreement between Clay County and the Clay County Fire/Rescue Professionals International Association of Firefighters Local 3362- Fiscal Years 2022-2024]

LET'S GO TO TIME CERTAIN'S ITEM NUMBER 12.

>> CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE FIREFIGHTERS LABOR UNION HAS BEEN A NEGOTIATED ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, E IS REPRESENTING HIS BARGAINING TEAM I'M REPRESENTING THE MANAGEMENT BARGAINING TEAM. WE SUCCESSFULLY CONCLUDED NEGOTIATIONS A FEW DAYS AGO, THE UNION WAS ABLE TO VOTE ON THE PROPOSAL THAT IS BEFORE YOU. THEY HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE UNANIMOUS VOTE IN FAVOR OF IT. WE SAID HERE BEFORE YOU SHOWING THE AGREEMENT WITH THE FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 122 WITH A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT WILL COMMENCE ON DECEMBER 22.

IT IS SLIGHTLY POSTDATED FROM THE NORMAL SEPTEMBER 30 DATE YOU WILL NORMALLY SEE AND WILL CONTINUE FOR THREE YEARS AFTER

UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, 2024. >> THAT IS GREAT NEWS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU BOTH.

THIS WAS A TOUGH ONE. WE WORKED A LOT OF HOURS GETTING THIS RIGHT. WE ARE HAPPY AND I HOPE THAT THE

UNION IS HAPPY. >> I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ON

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BEHALF OF THE UNION. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT IT IS LOCAL

3362. >> THAT'S OKAY, THEY ARE BIG

FANS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD IN ALL OF THEIR TEAM AND OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE STARTED A HARD MARCH BACK IN SEPTEMBER MAYBE.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY AS WELL FOR THEIR SUPPORT. I WANT TO THANK MY GUYS FOR THEIR SUPPORT. AGAIN TO THE BOARD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

ALL OF THE GUYS ARE VERY HAPPY. I SPENT SOME TIME WITH THE NEW RECRUIT CLASS THE OTHER DAY, I THINK WE ARE GOOD SHAPE.

THANKS AGAIN. >> WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. I HONESTLY WANT TO THINK, WE CAN'T DO ENOUGH FOR YOU, THANK YOU.

I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> SO MOVED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME CLICKS IT CARRIES 5-0. WE ARE DONE.

[13. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Confirmation of Clay County Precincts and Polling Places recommended by Supervisor of Elections Chris Chambless]

OKAY ITEM NUMBER 13. YOU ON.

>> THIS IS THE CONFIRMATION FOR CLAY COUNTY PRECINCTS AND

POLLING PLACES. >> OUR WONDERFUL COURT OF CLERK IS CHUCKLING AT THAT STATEMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT THAT WILL BE FOR ANOTHER DAY. FIRST I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THE COLLABORATIVE EFFORT OF T. NAGLE AND THE TEAM. AND OUR OWN HOLLY, ELECTION SERVICES AND HURT GIS TEAM. AS YOU MAY RECALL THIS IS CERTAINLY A DIFFICULT TASK AND WE HAD A VERY ABBREVIATED TIMELINE BECAUSE OF COVID-19 AND THE SENSES.

AND FROM THE BEGINNING LIKED BEHIND.

BUT I BELIEVE WHAT WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY IS A HUGE SUCCESS. OVER THE YEARS REPRODUCING THING AS INVOLVED -- EVOLVED WITH THE EVOLUTION OF GROWTH AN EARLY VOTING AND NO EXCUSE FOR BY MAIL WHICH ACCOUNTED FOR MORE THAN 80% OF THE TOTAL VOTE IN THE 2020 GENERAL ELECTION.

LET THAT SINK IN. 20% OF THE VOTE IN THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION HAPPENED AT THE PRECINCT.

SO IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE WAY OUR CITIZENS ARE CASTING THEIR FAMILY. WHAT THAT HAS ALLOWED FOR IS AN INCREASED NUMBER OF VOTERS ASSIGNED TO A PRECINCT.

SO HERE IS THE NEW IDEA. POLLING LOCATIONS WITH AMPLE ASSESSABLE PARKING AND SPACIOUS ROOMS ALLOW FOR NEW EQUIPMENT ACCOMMODATING MORE VOTERS. TO MEET THE NEEDS OF VOTERS WHILE MINIMIZING THE WAIT TIMES OF VOTING THEY ARE EQUIPPED TO MATCH THE AVAILABILITY OF THE ROOM AND PARKING.

FOR EXAMPLE NEARLY HALF OF ALL POLLING LOCATIONS AND CLAY COUNTY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHECK IN 4-6 VOTERS AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

ADDITIONALLY, ONE OF THE OTHER BOTTLENECKS IN THE PROCESS IS THAT WE HAVE PLACED MULTIPLE VALID TABULATOR'S AT EACH ONE OF THOSE POLLING LOCATIONS WHICH ALLOW AGAIN THE VOTERS ONCE THEY COMPLETE THEIR BALLOT, TO CAST THEIR VOTE SIMULTANEOUSLY.

IN PAST YEARS PRECINCTS WERE PRIMARILY DICTATED BY REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT LINES. WHILE THIS IS STILL PRIMARILY A CONSIDERATION, ADVANCEMENT IN BALLOT ON DEMAND TECHNOLOGY ALLOWS US TO REDUCE THE RISK OF VOTERS NOT GIVING THEIR SPECIFIC BALANCE FILE. BETTER SECURITY, IT IS MUCH EASIER TO SECURE BLANK PAPER THAN BALLOTS, AND WHEN WE DO NOT USE THAT SUPPLY OF BLANK PAPER AND THE PRIMARY, WE CAN NOW USE

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IT IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. I HAVE TO TELL YOU WITH THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WE ARE CURRENTLY DEALING WITH, WITH OBTAINING ENOUGH PAPER TO CONDUCT AN ELECTION THAT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. LASTLY, IT ELIMINATES THE WASTE, THERE IS NOTHING MORE PAINFUL THAN PAYING FOR THE BALANCE THAT ARE NOT USED BECAUSE YOU ARE PRODUCING THEM ON THE RUN IN OP THE PROCESS, BECAUSE WHEN A VOTER AUTHENTICATES THEMSELVES WE PRODUCE THE BALANCE AT THAT MOMENT.

BUT WHAT IS EVEN MORE PAINFUL IS WHEN WE HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THAT BALLOT THAT IS NOT USE SECURELY TRADED AFTER THE ELECTION.

IT IS LIKE A DOUBLE INSULT. BECAUSE OF THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE THE WASTE. HOWEVER, EVEN WITH THESE CHANGES, OUR FOCUS IS PRIMARILY ON THE IMMEDIATE GROWTH IN CERTAIN AREAS. FOR EXAMPLE, LAKE ASBERRY, OAKLEY, AND GREEN COVE SPRINGS. HERE IS THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR 2022. PLEASE NOTE THIS REPRESENTS ALL VOTERS ACTIVE AND INACTIVE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY ARE APPROXIMATE. THE FIRST AREA I WANT TO DISCUSS IS PRECINCT 112. IT IS CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY. HERE IS BORDERING OLD CHANTIN AND DOUBLE BRANCH AND PART OF THE EXPRESSWAY IN LONG BAY AROUND THE CORNER. IT WILL ZOOM IN ONTO THE SCREEN WE ALSO HAVE RECEIVING 112, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION OUTFOXED METALS. PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE PROCESS AFTER THE REDISTRICTING WE HAD FIVE SPLITS. WE ADD TO SCHOOL BOARD SPLITS, AND WE HAD TO CBD SPLITS. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THANK YOU TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO FINALLY A 20 YEAR LIFT OF COMING TOGETHER AND SHOWING THE BOUNDARY LINES. BECAUSE NOW WITH THE INCORPORATED CHANGES, WE HAVE REDUCED PRECINCT 112 FROM 7400 VOTERS TO APPROXIMATELY 5900 VOTERS.

AND ONLY THREE SPLITS. THE REASON FOR THOSE SPLITS IS BECAUSE OF THE LARGE VOLUME OF CDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY THAT CONTINUES TO GROW. BUT BECAUSE OF BALLOT ON DEMAND WE ARE ABLE TO ISSUE A CERTAIN STYLE SO IT IS LESS OF A CHALLENGE. SPEAKING OUTFOXED METAL.

BOX METAL CITIZENS IN FACT COMMUNITY PREVIOUSLY DROVE TO PRECINCT ONCE WELL DOWN OLD JENNINGS.

NOW THEY WILL GO DOWN LONG BAY TO PRECINCT 110 WHICH IS THE MIDDLEBURG CIVIC CENTER. APPROXIMATELY THE SAME DISTANCE AND BECAUSE THE PRECINCT OF FOX METALS DOES NOT HAVE THAT SAME REPRESENTATION IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO GO TO MIDDLEBURG CIVIC CENTER FOR THEM AND IT REDUCES THE NUMBER FROM 7400 DOWN TO 5900. ADDITIONALLY, WITH THAT CHANGE, WE HAVE PRECINCT 302. ST. JOHNS RIVER STATE COLLEGE.

THESE ARE WHERE WE MADE BOUNDARY CHANGES.

PREVIOUSLY WE HAD AFTER REDISTRICTING BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. WE HAD 4700 VOTERS BUT THIS WAS REALLY THE NEXUS TO WHERE ALL OF THE PC LINES BCC LINES 1-3 AND 5 CAME INTO THE SAME PRECINCT AREA.

WITH THE INCORPORATED CHANGES WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE APPROXIMATELY

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530 VOTERS WHO WERE WEST SIDE OF NIGHT BOX.

SO THE WEST SIDE OF NIGHT BOX WENT TO ST. JOHN STATE COLLEGE TO CAST THEIR BALLOT WE MOVE THEM TO 500 WHICH IS PINEWOOD PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, RIGHT IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT ALSO ELIMINATED ONE OF THE SPLITS.

ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE APPROXIMATELY 180 VOTERS TO PRECINCT 304 WHICH WAS THE SALVATION ARMY.

AGAIN, AND THE GENERAL AREA BEING ANOTHER BCC SPLIT.

WE REMOVED LASTLY 1,000 VOTERS WERE IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE ON THIS ANGELLE PROPERTY, SO IT IS AN EIGHT SOUTHEAST OF LAKE DRIVE AND WE MOVE THEM FROM ST. JOHNS RIVER STATE COLLEGE TO ALL OF THE OTHER ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS TO PRECINCT 218 WHICH IS THE CHURCH RIGHT THERE ON MOODY.

THAT REDUCED ANOTHER SPLIT. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAVE 3,000 VOTERS GOING TO PRECINCT 302 AND WE DID AWAY WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS SPLITS THAT WERE CREATED.

LASTLY, THE OTHER BIG CHANGE IS PRECINCT 600.

SO WHEN PRECINCT 600, THE LINES WENT EAST OF HINDLEY ROAD ALL OF THE WAY UP TO RUSSELL ROAD AT THAT INTERSECTION AND THEN WENT TO EAST OF RUSSELL ROAD OVER TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS FOR RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH. WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WE HAVE REDUCED SIZE, WE HAVE MOVED VOTERS, THAT WAS ANYONE NORTH OF SAND RIDGE ROAD AND EAST OF HINDLEY.

WE MOVED THEM TO PRECINCT 310 WHICH IS THE SHRINE CLUB, CLAY COUNTY SHRINE CLUB ON RUSSELL ROAD.

IT ONLY MAKES SENSE TO GO RIGHT UP HINDLEY TO TURN INTO RUSSELL ROAD TO 310. T IN ADDITION WE MOVED VOTERS WHO WERE EAST OF RUSSELL ROAD THAT PREVIOUSLY WENT TO RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH UP TO 310 A CONTINUOUS AREA FOR THAT.

TAKE THIS IS WHERE THESE CHANGES ACTUALLY INCREASED RUSSELL BAPTIST CHURCH. IT WENT FROM 6,000 VOTERS TO 6500. DO YOU REMEMBER WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE FACILITIES. THE CHURCH IS WHERE PEOPLE GO ON A WEEKDAY FOREBODING. AND IT HAS WONDERFUL PARKING AND WONDERFUL FACILITIES, AND WE HAVE AS MANY AS THREE TABULATOR'S THAT ARE WITHIN THAT LOCATION SO WE CAN TAKE MORE OF AN INCREASE. THE ONLY PRECINCT UPDATE THAT WE MADE IS PRECINCT 606 AND YOU WILL SEE THAT RIGHT HERE.

THAT IS THAT THE GREENS BILL CHURCH OF CHRIST ON RUSSELL ROAD JUST AFTER THIS BRIDGE. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

SO WE TOOK ALL OF THE CITIZENS ON 315, THAT WERE BOTH IN THE AREA AND WERE IN THE EDGEWATER ESTATES IN THE NEW SUBDIVISION THAT IS THERE AND NOW THEY WILL GO JUST AROUND THE CORNER TO 608 AND THE INDIVIDUALS ON 315 IN THIS SECTION OF ROAD AND THEY WILL ALSO GO TO 608. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT, PREVIOUSLY THEY WENT TO BLACK CREEK CHURCH OF CHRIST ON 218 BETWEEN PENDLEY AND BLANDING BOULEVARD.

ALL OF THE CHANGES WE MADE WERE MADE AT THE BENEFIT OF THE OWNER AND IT ALSO PROVIDES IN CERTAIN AREAS ROOM FOR US TO GROW.

OUR LARGEST POLLING LOCATION IS NORTH OF 10,000 VOTERS.

THAT BRINGS ME UP TO MY LAST POINT.

SO PRECINCT 113, PRECINCT 115 AND PRECINCT 116.

113, OAKLEY BAPTIST CHURCH, JUS% NORTH OF 10,000 VOTERS BUT IT IS

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A SPACIOUS ROOM OF 2,000 SQUARE FEET, AMPLE PARKING, WE HAD THE LARGEST NUMBER OF CHECK IN PATIENTS AND TABULATOR'S TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE FACILITY. OTHER LOCATIONS, TALKING ABOUT YOU WILL APPRECIATE THIS IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAUSEWAY THIS IS ARE CALM AND TREE SCHOOL THIS IS WHERE INDIVIDUALS COULD CAST THEIR BALLOT. IT IS THE ONLY SCHOOL WE ARE IN AND BECAUSE OF THE MARJORIE DOUGLAS ACT, SCHOOLS ARE JUST NOT ACCOMMODATING TO INVOLVE VOTERS FOR SECURITY REASONS.

BUT WE HAVE TO BE AT THAT LOCATION.

THE LAST THING IS MY CONCERN. OUR PLAN WON'T TAKE US TO THE NEXT BENEFICIARY. THE GROWTH IS TOO HEAVY.

THE MORE IMPORTANT REASON IS WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY FOR POLLING LOCATIONS. IF YOU THINK OF 113 IF YOU THINK OF ONE 16TH THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO OTHER LOCATION TO WHERE WE CAN PUT A POLLING LOCATION.

I FEAR BECAUSE OF WHAT IS BEING CREATED WE WON'T HAVE ASSESSABLE WAYS TO ALLOW FOR PHONING.

>> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK THIS WILL SAY IN PLACE.

>> THE GOOD THING IS, I THINK WE ARE DOING PRECINCT SPLITS AND ADDING MORE POLLING LOCATIONS. WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING ON THE SHORT SIDE OF FOUR YEARS PROBABLY ON THE LONG SIDE OF MAYBE SIX YEARS. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF LOCATIONS THAT MAY COME INTO THESE AREAS THAT WOULD BE

ASSESSABLE FOR US TO GROW INTO. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION JUST A COMMENT.

I THINK YOU DID A PHENOMENON -- NORMAL JOB ON YOUR YOUTUBE VIDEO THAT EXPLAIN SECURITY. I APPRECIATED COMING TO YOUR EXPO WHEN YOU HAD THAT AND LEARNING HOW YOU HAVE MADE OUR ELECTION SO SECURE AND SAFE. I APPRECIATE THAT SO I ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO GO TO YOUTUBE AND WATCH THE VIDEO ABOUT ELECTION SECURITY. I THINK THEY CAN LEARN A LOT AND

APPRECIATE THAT. >> IT WOULD APPEAR THAT I AM PART OF THE T. NAGLE FAN CLUB. 'S STAFF SHOT THE VIDEO TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT VIDEO AND HEATHER DID THE EDITING AND BETWEEN THAT AND THE MAKEUP AND HAIR CLIMBED THAT I HAD, IT WAS A TOTAL SUCCESS.

>> NATIONAL AWARD BY THE WAY. WE WERE JUST RECOGNIZABLY THAT'S

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RIGHT BY THE ELECTION COMMITTEE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

SO THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD.

>> NOW YOU HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT ON THESE CHANGES.

>> WELL, THE FIRST STEP IS WE WILL PRODUCED VOTER INFORMATION CARDS FOR EVERY SINGLE PHONE OR IN THE COUNTY.

HOWEVER, AS YOU MAY KNOW THIS HAS BEEN LEGALLY CHALLENGED, AS A MATTER OF FACT I THINK THE DATE MADE THEIR CASE ON MONDAY, YESTERDAY WITH REGARDS TO THIS COURT CASE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS COURT CASE AND THE WALKER CASE THAT IS IN THE 11TH COURT OF APPEALS OF APPEALS, YOU WILL SEE THE COURTS ARE SLOW TO UPSET THE VOTING PATTERN AND TRAFFIC OF VOTERS. THAT WAS DECIDED BY THE 11TH CIRCUIT IN THEIR STATE. IF YOU, IN 2012 THERE WAS AN ISSUE EAST OF US IN ANOTHER COUNTY WITH REGARDS TO THEIR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT LINES AND IT TOOK FOUR YEARS TO GET OUT OF COURT WITH THAT. MY CONCERN IS, IT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 125,000 TO PRODUCE THE I AM TRYING TO SLOW WALK IT AS LONG AS I CAN AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE WHERE WE CAN PRODUCE THESE. AFTER WHICH OF THE COURTS MAKE A DECISION OTHERWISE, THEN WE WILL HAVE TO PRODUCE ANOTHER ONE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE SAMPLE BALLOT WILL HAVE ALL OF THE OF THE NEW PRECINCT LOCATIONS AND WE WILL DO AN ADDITIONAL POSTCARD, PROBABLY GOING TO BE AFTER THE PRIMARY, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS WILL ONLY VOTE IN THE GENERAL AND NOT THE PRIMARY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW THE POLLING LOCATIONS HAVE CHANGED. OF COURSE ALL OF YOUR HELP ALONG WITH YOUR PIO'S ON GETTING THAT WORD OUT AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHRIS. NEXT UP WE HAVE --

>> DO WE NEED TO VOTE? >> WE NEED A MOTION?

>> YOU HAD SAID THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A SAY.

>> BUT IT IS LIKE THE SCHOOL BOARD RESOLUTION.

>> ALRIGHT, I WILL TAKE A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED

SAME SIGN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOU MADE IT. THAT BRINGS US TO WHO IS GOING

[14. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Presentations for RFQ No. 21/22-17, Professional Engineering Services for Stormwater Modeling (K.Smith/T. Abernathy)]

TO DO OUR ENGINEERING STORMWATER PROJECT.

>> I WILL INTRODUCE IT AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU.

WE ARE ON THE TIME CERTAIN'S RIGHT NOW.

TEAM MEMBERS YOU ARE WELCOME TO STAY IN THE ROOM AND HEAR EACH OTHER. ICA COUPLE LEAVING THE ROOM.

PUBLIC MEETING. SO TODAY WE ARE HERE TO HEAR PRESENTATIONS FROM TWO FIRMS THAT SUBMITTED PROPOSALS FOR OUR RFQ FOR STORMWATER ANALYSIS AND MODELING SERVICES.

WE HAD REGRADE TEAM MEMBERS THAT EVALUATED THESE AND AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE TWO VERY QUALIFIED FIRMS. THE FIRMS WILL, THEY WILL BE TAXED WITH DEVELOPING A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN FOR THE COUNTY ALONG WITH OTHER STORMWATER RELATED SERVICES. TODAY WE DO HAVE TEAM MEMBER TAYLOR ABERNATHY, HE WAS ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE HAS ON STANDBY FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE AMBER FROM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT THAT WORKED HARD ON THIS.

THIS PROJECT IS FUNDED WITH HARPER FUNDS AND DUE TO THE CLOSE SCORING THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED A PRESENTATION. BOTH ARE HERE TODAY.

WE TYPICALLY GO IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER SO WE WILL FOLLOW THAT SAME FORMAT TODAY. I DID LEAVE EACH OF YOU A SCORECARD SO AFTER PRESENTATIONS, YOU ARE FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY ARE FREE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. AT THE VERY END AFTER BOTH PRESENTATIONS WE WILL DO A ROLL CALL AND TAKE SCORE.

NUMBER ONE BEING THE MOST QUALIFIED AND NUMBER TWO BEING

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YOUR SECOND CHOICE. >> CAN YOU SUMMARIZE WHAT THE

STUDY IS SUPPOSED TO DO? >> I THINK MR. TAYLOR WILL DO A

GREAT JOB OF THAT. >> 25 WORDS OR LESS, JUST GIVE

US A CAPSULE. >> GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY TO ASSESS OUR STORMWATER, AS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE ARE SOLICITING THE HELP OF SOME OF THE CONSULTANTS TO IDENTIFY LOCAL DRAINAGE ISSUES AS WELL AS REGIONAL ISSUES, AND PLANS TO HELP WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TO HELP THE DEPARTMENT CURTAIL THESE THINGS AND COME UP WITH A DEVELOPED PLAN AN APPROACH FOR STORMWATER MODELING.

CANCEL THIS IS WHAT WE BASE OUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS IN THE DRAINAGE AREA FOR THE NEXT TEN AFTER 20 YEARS, ZACHARIAH?

>> YES, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. >> WE DID REQUEST THAT THEY GIVE A 5-10 MINUTE PRESENTATION. WE WILL KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.

YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS AFTER PRESENTATION.

WE DID PROVIDE AND I BEST TRACK HANDOUTS EARLIER IN YOUR E-MAIL

AND IN THE BOX. >> DO WE NEE TO -- IN YOUR BOX.

>> MY NAME IS MARK NELSON, I AM THE SENIOR CONSULTANT VICE PRESIDENT AND I HAVE BEEN WITH THE FIRM FOR OVER 25 YEARS FOCUSED ON WATER RESOURCE ISSUES IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING OUR PROJECT TEAM TODAY.

BASED UPON OUR EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE, MASTER PLANNING AROUND THE STATE ESPECIALLY NORTHEAST FLORIDA WE UNDERSTAND CLAY COUNTY. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR PROJECT AND THE DESIRED OUTCOMES. WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP IN OUR TEAM, WE WILL HELP YOU ACHIEVE YOUR PROJECT AND ITS GOALS.

THE COUNTY IS FACING UNPRECEDENTED GROWTH, OF COURSE YOU HAVE MET THAT WITH YOUR BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM, YOU ALSO NEED A SET OF TOOLS AND POLICIES FOR STORMWATER PLANNING AND MODELS TO HELP MANAGE THAT GROWTH AND ENSURE YOU HAVE NO OUTSIDE IMPACTS FROM THAT GROWTH.

YOU WILL ALSO WANT TO RETAIN THE CHARACTER AND NATURAL BEAUTY OF SYSTEMS THROUGHOUT LIKE BLACK CREEK, PETER STREET, LEE KACZMAREK, THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT THINGS WE WANT TO PROTECT THROUGH OUR SERVICES AND YOU WANT TO LOOK BACK AT SOME OF THESE ISSUES YOU HAVE AND TO ADDRESS BOTH AND FIND SOLUTIONS TO THOSE AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL ADDRESS.

AND OF COURSE YOUR FEMA MAPS ARE A BIT OUTDATED AND PART OF THE EFFORT WE GO THROUGH IS UPDATING THE FEMA MAPS.

MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU WANT TO DEVELOP RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, CIP'S THAT ARE GRANT FUNDABLE.

THROUGH THAT THESE ARE COMMON OUTCOMES AND WE WOULD CERTAINLY HELP FOLKS WITH THE. THIS IS OUR RECENT EXPERIENCE IN STORMWATER PLANNING. NO FIRM HAS MORE EXPERIENCE IN NORTH FLORIDA AND POTENTIALLY THROUGHOUT FLORIDA IN STORMWATER MASTER PLANNING. THAT EXPERIENCE IS IMPORTANT AND ARGUABLY THAT EXPERIENCE WITH THESE CLIENTS, WE BASICALLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THE WORK WE HAVE DONE WE HAVE DEVELOPED RELATIONSHIPS AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THESE CLIENTS WHICH IS A TESTAMENT TO THE SERVICES WE PERFORM FOR THESE COMMUNITIES. THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR PROJECT TEAM, IS HERE LOCALLY IN CLAY COUNTY AND DUBOIS COUNTY.

WE ARE CLOSE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE KEY MEMBERS FOR THE PROJECT TEAM WITH ME TODAY. I HAVE GREGORY, IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER. HE HAS 15 YEARS EXPERIENCE MANAGING PROJECTS JUST LIKE THIS.

WE HAVE OUR NEXT MANAGER HE HAS OVER TEN YEARS AND HAS BEEN WORKING WITH ORANGE PARK AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES JOINT WORK JUST LIKE THIS AS A PROJEC% ENGINEER.

ALSO WE HAVE ALAN WHO SUPPORTS THE CIP PORTION OF THE PROJECT

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AND HE HAS OVER TWO DECADES OF EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH MYSELF, DOING WORK JUST LIKE THIS, STORMWATER MASTER PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES ANY IS SUPPORTED BY AMY, I AM A RESIDENT DESIGN AND DESIGN PROFESSIONAL. BEYOND THAT WE HAVE WALT AND WALT AND HIS TEAM ARE SUPPORTING THE FIRM.

AND WE ALSO HAVE SUPPORTS US FROM THE SPATIAL SIDE. IT IS A DEEP BENCH AND A LOT OF FOLKS. WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO ACCOMPLISH SO WE DO HAVE SOME REDUNDANCY BUILT INTO THE TEAM.

WE HAVE A COMPLETE TEAM AND WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH THIS IN THE

REQUIRED 24 MONTHS. >> I HAVE MANAGED MORE THAN 30 STORMWATER MASTER PLANS WITH MOST BEING IN NORTH FLORIDA.

SINCE I STARTED ONE OF THE CONFIDENCE I HAVE HAD IS IMPROVING THE STORMWATER APPROACH.

THIS IS REPETITIVE TYPE OF WORK AND PUTTING TOGETHER THESE MODELS MAKING SURE THEY MEET YOUR NEEDS.

WE ALSO INVESTED IN MODERN TECHNOLOGY IF THIS IS COST-EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT. WE HOPE WE WILL HAVE MAPS THAT WE CAN START SHARING AND VIEWING TO DISCUSS.

THIS IS CRITICAL TO MEET THE SCHEDULE OF THE FUNDING AND IDENTIFIED THE CAPITAL PROJECTS RIGHT UP FRONT AND START ADDRESSING AND DEVELOPING PLANS TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. WE WANTED TO CONGRATULATE THE COUNTY ON THE NEWS LAST WEEK THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SELECTED.

THIS IS THE PROJECT YOU HAVE BEEN REWARDED.

THIS WILL HELP YOU IDENTIFY WHAT THE FLOOD WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.

AS WE NOTED THE POTENTIAL FOR OVERLAP BETWEEN THIS MODEL AND THE MASTER PLAN, THIS WILL HELP TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OVERLAP.

THE CRS PROGRAM, WE OFFER ONE OF THE STRONGEST AND MOST QUALIFIED ENGINEERING FIRM REGARDING CRS. THAT SYSTEM HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED TO PROMOTE FLOOD RESILIENCE WITHIN COMMUNITIES AND AN INCENTIVE, THIS WILL PAY LESS AND FLOOD INSURANCE.

IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY.

WHEN THEY APPROACHED US THEY WERE AT LEVEL SEVEN CONCERNED ABOUT MAINTAINING THAT STATUS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND THEY ARE THE NOW THE FIRST COASTAL COMMUNITY TOO TO CLASS THREE WHICH SAVES THE RESIDENCE ANNUALLY.

THE WORK ON THIS PROJECT WOULD COUNT TOWARDS THAT PROGRAM TO

HELP THE SCHOOL. >> I'M ALAN AND I AM FOCUSING ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAMMING FOR THIS PROJECT.

NO AMOUNT OF PROGRAMMING WILL HELP.

YOU NEED FUNDING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. WE HAVE A VERY GOOD RECORD FOR ACHIEVING THIS THROUGH PROGRAMS THROUGH LEGISLATIVE GRANTS AND GRANT PROGRAMS AND THE WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. WE HAVE HELPED -- WE HAVE RECEIVED SO MUCH. DEVELOPING PROJECTS WITH A CLEAR VISION AND COSTS AND BENEFITS TO COMMUNICATE TO THE PARTNERS AND THIS IS THAT THE FRONT OF THEIR LINES AND MAXIMIZE YOUR CHANCE FOR ACHIEVING GRANT FUNDING. THOSE PROJECTS WERE DEVELOPED BASED ON DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS, SOLID DATA, DEVELOP THROUGH ADAPTABLE PROCESSES THAT PROVIDES THE FOUNDATION FOR THE OVERALL WATERSHED PROGRAM. WE HAVE WORKED WITH FLORIDA COUNTIES LIKE ST. JOHNS COUNTY, SARASOTA, HILLSBORO, MARION COUNTY, ALL DEVELOPING OR IMPROVING PARTS OF THEIR PROGRAM

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SO THEY CAN BLOW WORK THEIR CITIZENS FLOOD RISK.

MAINTAIN THE QUALITY OF LIFE. MAINTAIN THE RESOURCES THAT PEOPLE CHERISH AND ACCOMMODATE GROWTH.

AGAIN THE FOUNDATION OF THAT IS STRONG MODELING.

ONCE YOU HAVE THE MODELING PUT TOGETHER ALL OF THE DOWNSTREAM TASK LIKE IMPLEMENTING STRANGE SOLUTIONS AND UPDATING FLOOD MAPS BECOME A LOT EASIER. WE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO WORK WITH CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE OF THE INGREDIENTS INVOLVED HERE.

YOU HAVE A KNOWLEDGEABLE STAFF WHO HAVE INVOLVED INVESTED IN THE DATA. THESE ARE THE TOOLS AND PROCESSES THAT WE LOVE TO WORK WITH THAT JUSTIN DESCRIBED.

WE HAVE EXPERIENCE DOING THIS. WE CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND A BETTER TEAM. WITH THAT WE WILL TAKE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> I NOTICE A LOT OF YOUR PROJECTS, THERE WERE 5-6 OF THEM. I ASSUMED THEY BROKE THEIR ASSESSMENT DOWN INTO SMALLER PIECES, CLAY COUNTY, WE WILL GO

AFTER THE WHOLE COUNTY? >> COMING ON THAT STRATEGY.

>> I APOLOGIZE. >> THE ANSWER IS YES THEY DID BREAK THOSE DOWN INTO REGIONAL WATERSHEDS AND TACKLE THOSE.

>> PART OF THAT WAS DRIVEN BY THE FUNDING AND LIMITATIONS TO THE TECHNOLOGY AT THE TIME. THERE WERE TEN WATERSHEDS FOR THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. THE HIKE RESOLUTION THAT FORMS THE BASIS WERE HARD TO WORK WITH AND ADVANCES IN COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY HAS DRIVEN THAT FORWARD AND TEN BOTTLES WE DEVELOPED WERE IN ONE MODEL AND RUN AS ONE MODEL WHICH WAS VERY IMPORTANT IN SOME OF THE LOWER LYING AREAS WHICH WERE FLAT.

YOU DON'T KNOW AND THE INNOVATIONS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WILL GO.

>> THE PROJECT SUMMARY APPROACH IS A, YOU HAVE THE GIS STUFF IN PLACE PRETTY MUCH, AND WE NEED TO MODEL THAT WHERE WE CAN PREDICT WHERE THE WATER WILL GO AND ONCE WE DO THAT YOU WILL BREAK THAT UP INTO A EXECUTABLE PROJECT AND THEN WE CAN --

>> EXACTLY. NOW DIGITALLY WE HAVE HIGH RESOLUTION DATA, IT ALLOWS US TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE COUNTY AT ONCE AND DEVELOP WITH RELATIVELY QUICKLY, WITHOUT DOING DETAILED WORK WE CAN USE THE GIS DATA YOU DEVELOP AND MARRY THAT WITH THE TERRAIN DATA AND COME UP WITH THE PROCESS.

IT IS A PROCESS JUSTIN AND HIS TEAM HAS PIONEERED TO GET RESULTS. WE KNOW LARGE RESULTS IN THE WESTERN PORTION ARE DRY AND THERE WON'T BE MANY FLOODING ISSUES, THERE WILL BE SOME. THERE WILL BE A LOT IN THE EASTERN PORTION. THROUGH THESE TECHNIQUES WE CAN QUICKLY FOCUS IN THE REAL EFFORT OF WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE.

I THINK AS JUSTIN MENTIONED WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF FLOODING AREAS WE CAN REVIEW THEM.

I WOULD EXPECT A LOT OF HEAD NODDING BACK IT HAPPENS AND THEN

WE CAN FOCUS ON THE SOLUTION. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY WHAT YOU DO TO MAKE SURE WHAT YOU SAY IS GOING TO HAPPEN WILL HAPPEN.

IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE 24 MONTHS TO COMPLETE AND WE WILL PROBABLY GET A HURRICANE IN THAT TIME PERIOD.

>> WE HAVE TAKEN THE TEMPORARY WATER ( INDISCERNIBLE ), WE HAVE SOME GREAT PHOTOS FROM PEOPLE WHEN THE RAIN COMES THROUGH, WE HAVE STOPPED RUNNING OUT TAKING PHOTOGRAPHS, GETTING OBSERVATIONS AND DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHS WITH SOMETHING WE

CAN SURVEY LATER. >> THAT IS PART OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR US RIGHT NOW, INTO THE SCOPE OF THIS WORK?

>> YES. >> GOOD.

>> I NOTICED, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU WORKED ON ORANGE PARK.

THERE'S DATA THERE. HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT DATA COLLECTS I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO WE GOT TO THE BORDER OF ORANGE PARK, AND THEN IT IS CLAY COUNTY, HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT DATA, IS THAT DANA GOING TO BE USED IN THE CONSTRUCT OF THIS

SURVEY, THIS STUDY COLLECTS. >> I WILL SAY ABSOLUTELY.

I CAN INVITE JOHN TO COMMENT ON THAT HE WORKED ON THE PROJECT.

ESPECIALLY INDUSTRIAL DRIVE. >> AS ALAN SAID I WORKED ON THE ORANGE PARK PROJECT, THERE WAS SOME MODELING THAT TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN LIMITS AND WE COLLECTED DATA, WE HAVE TO

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GIVE A JOINT PROJECT WITH THE COUNTY TO ASSESS THE DITCH THERE WERE A BUNCH OF ISSUES FOR FLOODING IN THE NORTHWEST PORTION OF THE TOWN THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE DITCH.

SO WE COLLECTED SURVEY DATA ALL ALONG THE DITCH AND SOME DATA OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY PLAY INTO LOVE MODELING TECHNIQUES THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

ALSO THE DATA IN THE TOWN IF YOU WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO A MODEL THAT CAN BE USED FOR THIS EFFORT.

>> DO HAVE DATA ON ALL OF THE TOWNS?

>> NO. >> ORANGE PARK IS THE ONLY ONE.

>> IS THE SCOPE OF THIS GOING TO INCLUDE KEYSTONE OR GREEN COVE

SPRINGS? >> F.

>> GOING BACK TO THE INUNDATION TECHNIQUE.

IF WE TAKE A QUICK SHOT OF THE OVERALL COUNTY, IDENTIFY THE FLOODING ISSUES, WE CAN SEE WHAT STRUCTURES WE NEED TO BETTER CHARACTERIZE AND GO OUT INTO THE FIELD TO GET THAT.

WE DON'T NEED TO COLLECT INFORMATION ON EVERY STRUCTURE IN THE COUNTY. WE CAN DO IT MORE EFFICIENTLY

THAN THAT. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.

THAT IS, WHEN YOU SPEAK OF RESILIENCY, ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS RESILIENCY AND MEASURES, WHAT EXPERIENCE DO YOU HAVE WITH ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS SOLUTIONS TO

RESILIENCY COLLECTS. >> WE COULD HAVE AMY OVER DESIGN LEAD EXTRAORDINAIRE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE LOOKED AT AN IMAGE OF GAINESVILLE AND LOOK TO THE SOUTH END WHERE YOU CAN SEE A GATOR HEAD IN THE VEGETATION, THAT IS A BIG TREATMENT WETLAND THAT WE WORKED ON.

WE DO A MIX OF HARD AND SOFT. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO (

INDISCERNIBLE ). >> ALSO REALLY QUICK WE ALSO HOPE TO DEVELOP ONTO WELL IMPACTED DEVELOPMENT MANUAL.

IN PARTNERSHIP ( INDISCERNIBLE ) >> YES, WE HAVE DONE DESIGN PROJECTS USING ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNIQUES AS WELL AS ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED.

WE TRIED TO DO AS MUCH ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCE FRONT AS POSSIBLE. AS MARK MENTIONED WE DID BOTH SWEETWATER WETLANDS PARK FOR THE CTY OF GAINESVILLE WHICH WAS DESIGNED FOR A FLOW CONDITION BUT EVEN THE DAY -- I WON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE HURRICANE RIGHT NOW -- BUT FOR ALL OF THE HURRICANES WE HAVE HAD SINCE THE PARK WAS BUILT THEY HAVE OPERATED IMMEDIATELY AFTER.

THERE ARE PEOPLE VISITING THE PARK.

WE DO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE RESILIENCY ISSUES.

>> THANK YOU. >> I KNOW THAT THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK WAS GRANTED $150,000 RESILIENCY PROJECT AS WELL.

ARE YOU ALL WORKING ON THAT, ARE YOU STILL UNDER CONTRACT WITH

THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK? >> YES.

WE WERE JUST CONTACTED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR ABOUT WORKING ON EIGHT SCOPE OF WORK FOR THAT RESILIENCY FUNDING.

>> AND IF YOU WERE TO GET THE PROJECT HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, DO YU SEE SYNERGIES ON MAXIMIZING THAT GRANT FUNDING FOR

RESILIENCY COLLECTS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

IF ARE WORKING FOR BOTH ENTITIES WE CAN BE THE THING PROJECTS AND IDEAS AND THINGS THAT CAN HELP RESILIENCY IN THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH BOTH ENTITIES. THERE WILL ABSOLUTELY BE SOME

OVERLAP THERE WITH SYNERGY. >> JUST TO ADD ONTO THAT THE FUNDING PARTNERS LIKE TO SEE THOSE PROJECTS TO GET MULTIPLE WINS IF THEY CAN FUND MULTIPLE PROJECTS AND SATISFY TWO COMMUNITIES OR MORE, THEY LIKE THE EXTRA VALUE POINTS.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ALAN.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WE APPRECIATE IT.

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>> REVENUE PERFORMANCE YES. >> THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR LETTING US PRESENT TODAY I AM WITH STINGHOFEN & ASSOCIATES, INC. ENGINEERS ARE NOT KNOWN FOR BEING EXCITING.

THESE TWO, BEFORE -- WHICH ONE CONTROLS --

>> WILL YOU MAKE SURE YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE SO THE

PEOPLE AT HOME CAN HEAR. >> I'M SORRY.

>> MY NAME IS ROBERT GAYLORD I'M THE PRESIDENT OF STINGHFEN & ASSOCIATES, INC. KENT IS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND CURRENTLY AT A CONFERENCE. MARK IS ALSO THE VICE PRESIDENT AND HE IS HEAD OF OUR GIS DEPARTMENT.

STINGHOFEN & ASSOCIATES, INC. WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1983, WE KEPT A NARROW FOCUS. WE FOCUS PRIMARILY ON STORMWATER. WE ARE A MUNICIPALITY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROJECT STORMWATER MODELING ALL ASPECTS OF STORMWATER AND. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. THAT IS WHAT WE FOCUS ON, DOING RITUAL FITS AND MODELING. OUR STAFF HAS BEEN WITH US, MOST OF US TEN YEARS. SOME HAVE HAD 18-20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY SPIRIT A LOT OF OUR MUNICIPALITY CLIENTS HAVE BEEN WITH US 25-30 YEARS. WHAT WE DID IS WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM HERE AT THAT WE THINK WOULD MEET ALL OF YOUR NEEDS.

AS WE SAID WE ARE FOCUSED ON STORMWATER.

AND AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED ( INDISCERNIBLE ) WHO HAS A RECORD OF WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY CURRENTLY WORKING IN BLACK CREEK. JAY IS WORKING WITH US AND HAS A REPUTATION FOR STORMWATER ALSO. WE ALSO PARTNERED WITH WTI MOST OF YOU KNOW ERIC, WTI HAS A MENTOR PROTÉGÉ RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GOVERNMENT WITH WGI THEY MENTOR US AND HELP US WITH LARGER PROJECTS AND WE SHARE RESOURCES BACK AND FORTH.

STREAMLINE TECHNOLOGY, IS THE DEVELOPER OF THE SOFTWARE THE DEVELOPER OF OUR COMPANY AND FOUNDER OF OUR COMPANY.

AND WGI JUST RECENTLY PURCHASED THEM.

UNIVERSALS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW. SO WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THIS. WHAT IS ALL ABOUT THIS IS WE ARE COMPETING WITH JONES EDMUNDS AND THEY HAVE BEEN A LONG-STANDING PARTNER WITH ( INDISCERNIBLE ) OVER 20 YEARS WE HAVE PARTNERED TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER AND WE HAVE SHARED RESOURCES ALSO.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOUR BOARD, YOUR STAFF DID SELECT US AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONCUR WITH THAT SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN CONVEYS YOU. OVER EXPERIENCE IN WATERSHED MODELING AS RANGE FROM TALLAHASSEE TO SOUTH FLORIDA TO SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, AND ALL OF THE AREAS, CENTRAL FLORIDA.

WE ARE WORKING ALL OVER THE STATE IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

A LOT OF THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE ALSO INFLUENCE THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER. IN SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITIES WE HELPED TO DEVELOP SOME OF THEIR WATERSHED MODELING STANDARDS HOW THEY MODEL THEM HOW THEY PUT THE MODEL TOGETHER.

WORKING WITH -- WE DID TECHNICAL SUPPORT TO HELP OTHER COMPANIES MODEL. WE THOUGHT THE MODEL.

WE HELP THOSE FOR CITIES AND COUNCILS.

MATT HAS HELPED WITH CERTAIN AREAS AND PUT GIS KNOW TO KEEP IT GOING AND HOW TO CATALOGUE IT AND THE DATA AND HOW TO ACCESS IT. MANY -- MATT HAS BEEN DOING THAT FOR CITIES AND COUNCILS AND HELP TO DEVELOP THOSE STANDARDS.

OUR LOCAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE AREA. LIKE I SAID, WE INVOLVED WGI WHO IS LOCAL IN THE AREA. THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING HERE FOR YEARS NOW AND WORKING IN BLACK CREEK, THIS IS ONE OF YOUR BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS. WE'VE ALL BEEN WORKING ON FEMA GRANTS FOR YEARS AND BEGINNING YOU A BENEFIT COST RATIO ANALYSIS. WE HAVE DONE IT ALL OVER THE STATE AND WE ARE SURE WE CAN DO THAT HERE.

WG I HAVE DONE SEVERAL HERE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON

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THIS. DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, YOU DON'T NEED ME TOO LIST ALL OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUT THAT LOCAL FLOODING PROBLEM, I WILL DO A PERSONAL NOTE HERE.

I LOVE FIXING THOSE. THOSE ARE MY FAVORITE PROJECTS BECAUSE WATER IT LIKE THAT MAKES ANGRY RESIDENTS AND ANGRY PHONE CALLS. YOU HAVE TO BE INNOVATIVE AND CREATIVE YOU HAVE TO BE COMMUNICATIVE AND YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS I LIKE TO DO A LOT. SEEK OUR TIMELINE, WE WANT TO GET THE PROJECTS ON THE GROUND AND DEVELOP AND BUILD.

WHAT WE ARE THINKING, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH A PRESENCE HERE AND WGI WITH YOU AND THE MODELS ARE GOING ON, WE ARE NOT BEING HIT WITH REAL DATA. WE WORK WITH YOU TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR HOTSPOTS ARE COMMON TO SEE IF WE CAN DEVELOP PROJECTS QUICKLY. WHAT IT WOULD ANTICIPATE TO GET THE PROJECT DONE. WE WANT TO MOVE FASTER.

RIGHT NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MARK TO TALK ABOUT INNOVATION.

>> GOOD EVENING. AS ROBERT SAID CBM IS ON OUR TEAM THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU AND THE UTILITY AUTHORITY TO DO THAT INTEGRATED WATER RESOURCE PLAN WORK.

THAT IS OBVIOUSLY HELPING WITH THE WATER SUPPLY ISSUES.

WHEN WE GET TO THE MASTER PLAN WORK, IT IS A BIG BENEFIT TO PROVIDING STORMWATER SOLUTION AS WELL.

YOU CAN TAKE WATERWAY, AND THAT PROVIDES A BUILT-IN FIX FOR A LOT OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT WE NORMALLY LOOK FOR.

WE HAVE PROVIDED GRANT SUPPORT FOR A LOT OF CLIENTS.

AND WATER SUPPLIES CAN OPEN THIS TO GRANT FUNDING.

WE CAP HELP CLIENTS SECURE UPWARDS THROUGH HAVE BILLION DOLLARS EITHER IN GRANTS OR STATE FUND LOANS.

WE ARE ALSO WORKING ON CURRENT WORK NOW AND HAVE SOME IN WITH FEMA AND THE ARECO PROGRAM. AND AS ROBERT MENTIONED, THE BCA FOR THE BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS IS A KEY TO GETTING SUCCESSFUL GRANTS FROM FEMA IN PARTICULAR. WE ARE COMPETING TO DO GRANT REVIEWS FOR APPLICATION TO FEMA, AND THAT PROCESS HAS SHOWN US HOW TO LOOK AT A PLAN SENT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND IF IT WILL QUALIFY. THEY HAVE EVEN GIVEN DIRECTIONS TO APPLICANTS TO HELP THEM MODIFY THEIR PLANS TO ACHIEVE A BETTER BCA SCORE. WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY TO BRING ANY FUNDING THAT YOU MAY NEED. I KNOW THE RFP MENTIONED YOU ARE ANTICIPATING MORE LOCAL FUNDS ON THE PROBLEMS YOU HAVE.

THIS KIND OF FUNDING MAY NOT APPLY TO THOSE PROJECTS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE YOU MAY BE ABLE TO USE THAT FUNDING TO YOUR BENEFIT. WE ALSO PROVIDE ON OCCASION DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION DEVELOPMENT AND REVIEW SUPPORT.

I HAVE HEARD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT COMING IN. YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS THAT WILL ENCOURAGE FURTHER GROWTH.

HAVING THIS MASTER PLAN IN PLACE WILL HELP YOU GOD THAT DEVELOPMENT, REGULATE IT AND MAKE SURE NOTHING WILL BE DONE TO HARM ANYTHING IN THE COUNTY. TAKE WHAT WE CAN DO IT FOR COMES TO A PLACE WHERE THE STAFF'S OVERWHELM WE CAN HELP WITH THE REVIEW SPIRIT WE HAVE DONE THIS FOR THE CITY OF OCALA AND A NUMBER OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. IT HAS HELP THEM WITH THE STORM WATER PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

WE CAN MAKE SURE WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE CODES AND DO THOSE REVIEW SPIRIT THIS IS A NEW FIELD KIND OF.

THIS IS A PROGRAM AND THEN APPLICATION OF THE PROGRAM THE ROBERT MENTIONED EARLIER. THEY HAVE BEEN FOSTERING IT THROUGH THE STATE AND OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

THE NATIONAL WATER MODEL IS OUT THERE.

YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN BIG STORMS COMING THROUGH THE

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MIDWEST. THAT CAPABILITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A WHILE IN THE MAIN PART OF THE U.S.

BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA BECAUSE OF THE TRAINING. IT IS FLAT AND THE SOFTWARE DOESN'T DO THE JOB THAT YOU NEED.

THIS PROVIDES THAT KIND OF PREDICTION AT STREET LEVEL --

CANNOT CONTINUE? >> THIS LAST ONE.

IT'D CHEW UP TO A DASHBOARD, IT SHOWS YOU PREDICTIVE FLOODING AT THE STREET LEVEL. YOU CAN SEND TEXT MESSAGES TO YOUR STAFF SO THEY CAN BE PROACTIVE AND MITIGATE FOR THE FLOODING AND RECOVER QUICKER. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT.

WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE STAFF FOR THEIR PROPOSAL WE SENT THEN. AND THEIR CONFIDENCE FOR GIVING US THE HIGH SCORE. WE ARE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU

MAY HAVE. >> HOW WOULD YOU SUMMARIZE WHAT

THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT. >> I THINK, THE FIRST DELIVERABLE WOULD BE THE DATABASE, I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A DATABASE AND A LOT OF INFORMATION WILL BE USED FOR DEVELOPING THE MODEL NETWORK. YOU WANT TO UPDATE THAT AS YOU BUILD THE MODEL. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF WAYS WE CAN APPROACH THAT. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE DISTRICT THEY USE A PARTICULAR MODEL THAT CONTAINS ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN ONE SPOT. SOME OF THAT IS DATABASE BUT MOST OF IT IS GEARED TOWARDS THE MODEL.

>> WILL WE HAVE ACCESS AFTER IT IS CONSTRUCTED?

>> OF COURSE. AND WE HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST WITH TRAINING IF THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROGRAM.

TECH CAN TAKE ANY LEVEL THAT YOU LIKE.

YOU WILL GET SUBDIVISIONS COMING IN, THINGS YOU WANT TO INCORPORATE AND WE WILL SHOW THEM HOW TO DO THAT.

SECOND, PALM COAST JUST DOWN THE ROAD DID A CHILD.

WE DID A JOB, AND THEY WANTED TO TRACK AND MAINTAIN A SEPARATE DATABASE FOR THEIR MODEL INFORMATION.

THERE IS A LOT OF ASSETS THAT GO INTO A.

YOU HAVE MAINTENANCE RECORDS AND REPLACEMENT DATES AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS YOUR MODEL THAT HAVE VALUES AND PARAMETERS THAT YOUR MAINTENANCE CREWS COULD CARE LESS ABOUT.

THAT SET OF TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS THAT HAVE AN OVERLAP AND CAN COMMUNICATE THE INFORMATION NEEDED SO YOU DON'T DUPLICATE INFORMATION. BUT IT CAP YOUR ASSETS STREAMLINED SO IF YOU WANT TO HOOK IT UP YOU CAN DO IT EASIER THAN HAVING IT AROUND INFORMATION THAT IS USELESS.

THE MODEL, FLOODPLAIN MAPPING. THE ELEVATIONS, EVERYTHING THAT GOES OFF OF THAT. PERSONAL ELEVATIONS.

THIS WOULD GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO THAT.

WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPERS COME IN YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE MODEL AND SHOW THE ELEVATIONS THAT THEY NEED TO USE.

OBVIOUSLY IT RETROFITS. YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A PROGRAM.

THE PROCESS IS TO BUILD THE MODEL WE RELY HEAVILY ON YOUR MAINTENANCE CREWS AND THE PUBLIC STAFF, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE AT.

THEY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO CORRECT IT.

THE OTHER PART IS WHEN WE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION WE WANT THEIR

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FEEBACK. WE ARE PROPOSING TO LOSE THIS HERE. WHAT WOULD TO PREFER TO SEE

THEIR. >> WE HAVE WORKED WITH YOUTUBE MAINTAINED THAT. YOUR PROPOSAL ASKED FOR INCORPORATING THAT IN GIS SO IT IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO YOUR RESIDENCE. THERE ARE A COUPLE WAYS YOU CAN DO THAT. YOU WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION

ASSESSABLE IN GIS. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO THE ACTUAL DATA, BUT THERE ARE VIEWERS AND PROGRAMS THAT CAN LET THEM -- IT'S LIKE IF YOU HAVE EVER GONE TO THE MAP SERVICE IN FEMA YOU TYPE IN AN ADDRESS IT SHOWS YOU THE FLOOD MAP IN YOUR AREA. YOU CAN SET SOMETHING UP LIKE

THAT. >> THANK YOU, ANYONE ELSE?

>> IS THIS RECENT? YOU ARE FROM ORLANDO CORRECT?

>> OUR HEADQUARTERS ARE IN ORLANDO WE SHARE AN OFFICE WITH

WGI IN FLEMING ISLAND. >> OKAY, THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

>> I WILL GIVE EACH OF YOU A FEW MINUTES.

NUMBER ONE WOULD BE YOUR TOP RANK FIRM.

THE SECOND WOULD BE YOUR SECOND CHOICE.

WE WILL GET THE OF THE FIRM BACK IN AND GIVE YOU A FEW MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE SCORE IS.

>> COMMISSIONER BURKE WILL START WITH YOU IF YOU'RE READY.

>> I SAY JONES EDMUNDS NUMBER ONE AND STINGHOFEN & ASSOCIATES, INC. NUMBER TWO.

>> I WENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION STINGHOFEN & ASSOCIATES, INC. 1 AND JONES EDMUNDS TWO.

>> WITH THE SCORE IS, JONES EDMUNDS SIX AND STINGHOFEN & ASSOCIATES, INC., NINE SO THE NUMBER ONE RANKED WOULD BE JONES EDMUNDS AND STAFF WOULD BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE STATUTE IF WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WE WILL GO WITH NUMBER TWO BUT WE ARE CONFIDENT WE WILL BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT AND GET

STARTED RIGHT AWAY. >> WE NEED FURTHER ACTION ON

THAT? >> NO.

>> I DO HAVE A COMMENT. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH JONES EDMUNDS IN ORANGE PARK.

QUITE HONESTLY THE PRODUCT THEY PRODUCE IN MY OPINION WAS ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE SEEN. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I EXPECT THE SAME WITH THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY, MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

[15. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing on the Closing, Vacating and Abandoning of a portion of Vermont Avenue, St. Louis Avenue and Des Moines Avenue (all adjacent to the Goose Creek Subdivision)]

VACATING AND A PORTION OF -- VACATING AND ABANDONING A

PORTION OF VERMONT AVENUE. >> LAST MONTH YOU APPROVED A PORTION OF GOOSE CREEK AVENUE, THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE IDENTIFIED ROADS THAT -- ACTUALLY PORTION OF THEM THAT BORDER ALONG THE EDGE OF THE SUBDIVISION.

THE ROADS HAVE NEVER BEEN OPEN, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

THIS IS JUST A PROCESS TO CLOSE THOSE AND PROVIDE HALF OF THAT TO THE SUBDIVISION AND THE OTHER HALF GOES TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. YOU WILL SEE IN YOUR PACKET ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AFFECTED WITH THIS.

>> OKAY, ANY QUESTIONS? LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. WE WILL TAKE A MOTION.

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>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[16. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - First Public Hearing to consider LDC-2022-03. (PC voted 6-0 to approve) (E. Lehman)]

OPPOSE SAME SIGN. IT CARRIES 5-0.

NUMBER 16. APPLICATION IS A ZONING TEXT

CHANGE. >> ANYBODY OUT THERE?

>> THIS IS AN CONNECTION WITH THE BOARDS, YOU HAVE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHO HANDLES THE VARIANCES.

THE SPECIFIC -- THE COUNTING IS REQUESTING THIS CHANGE, TO THE POWERS AND DUTIES OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

WHAT IT WILL TO IS CLARIFY THE POWER THEY DO HAVE.

AS YOU MAY KNOW ANY VARIANCE CURRENTLY TO SOMETHING IN THE CODE CAN COME BEFORE THE BOARD FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

IN THE PORTION OF OUR CODE THAT PROVIDE FOR THEIR POWERS THERE'S NO LIMITATIONS. WHAT THE STAFF IS PROPOSING IS LIMITATION BE INCLUDED SO THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GRANT A VARIANCE FOR PARTICULAR LAND USE.

IT WILL BE CONDITIONAL USES THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OVERRIDE AND ALLOW A CHANGE. WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED SOME CLEANUP TO MAKE SURE AND TO CLARIFY THAT INTO CORRECTION, TO MAKE SURE A, B AND C PREFERRED TO THE COLD WHICH IS OUR PLAN REGULATIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M SURE WE CAN ANSWER THEM AND MIKE IS HERE AS WELL.

AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> I WOULD JUST WONDER, IS THIS

A PUBLIC HEARING? >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

I HAVE A COMMENT. >> WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE. ANYONE WILLING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? I SEE NO ONE.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BACK TO THE BOARD.

COMMENTS? >> I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS WATCH THIS DISCUSSION ON THE LAST BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING. DATE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR SEVEN MEETINGS -- MINUTES. WHILE -- IF YOU DID NOT WATCH IT WAS INTERESTING. FOUR OF THE MEMBERS WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD SO I APPRECIATE THAT THEY DID NOT KNOW THIS WAS COMING, ONE OF THE MEMBERS SAW THIS ON THE AGENDA AND ADJUSTED.

I AM NOT TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT AT ALL.

THERE WAS A BIT OF A FAST-TRACK TONE OF ARROGANCE, THAT WE WOULD COME WITH THIS PROPOSAL. THEY WANTED TO KNOW IF IT CAME FROM PLANNING OR ZONING OR DID THIS COME FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND WHERE THIS RESORTED FROM.

I WOULD JUST SAY, FOR THE PUBLIC IF THEY DID NOT WATCH OUR LAST MEETING WHERE COMMISSIONER CELLA TALKED ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS TO PREVENT A NON- ELECTED BOARD MAKING A DECISION THAT GREATLY IMPACTS ANY OF OUR PLACES IN THE COUNTY THAT THEY COULD NOT OVERRIDE THE SITUATION OR CHANGE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OR ANY APPLICATION THEREOF. I SUPPORT THIS CHANGE.

I SUPPORTED IT WHEN COMMISSIONER CELLA SPOKE OF IT AT OUR LAST MEETING IN APRIL. I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THEY WERE CAUGHT OFF GUARD AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR PERSONAL DECISIONS OR THE LACK OF APPRECIATION OF THEIR SERVICES BUT TO CLOSE A LOOPHOLE THAT HAS EXISTED.

>> I THINK IT IS A LOOPHOLE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING?

>> LIKE THEY SAID COMMISSIONER CONDON SPOKE ABOUT APPRECIATION

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FOR ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS. SO OFTEN WE PUT OUT THE CALL TO GET PEOPLE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC. IN THIS CASE BOOK CODE WAS NEEDED TO BE CHANGED AND TO MAKE SURE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM TAKING HEAT FOR A VOTE THAT I MAKE BUT I DO HAVE A PROBLEM TAKING A HEAT FOR VOTE THAT I DID MAKE AND I HAD NO CONTROL.

THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS AND TALKING TO STAFF ON HOW WE DO THAT. I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DISSUADE PEOPLE FROM BEING VOLUNTEERS AND COMING FORWARD AND SAYING WE WILL BE SECOND-GUESSING ANYTHING.

I THOUGHT THERE WERE LOOPHOLES AND WE WILL GET TO VOTE ON THAT

IN TWO WEEKS. >> YOU BOTH TODAY.

>> THERE'S ONLY ONE HEARING? >> EVEN BETTER.

>> BUT WE ONLY NEED ONE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THOSE IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

[17. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - First Public Hearing to consider adoption of LDC 2022-02. (District 5 Comm. Burke) Planning Commission voted 3-3 on a motion to approve. (M. Brown)]

OPPOSED SAME SIGN. HE CARRIES 5-0.

>> 17 FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF LAND

DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. >> ITEM 17, LDC CHANGE 2022 -- ZERO TWO, THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THE APPLICANT IS MR. FRANK MILLER. AND IT IS A REQUEST TO AMEND ARTICLE THREE SECTION THREE -- 33BB SIXPACK AI OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. TOO SPECIFICALLY ALLOW FOR DRIVE-THROUGH USES END OF LAKE ASBURY VILLAGE CENTER ZONING DISTRICT. JUST A LITTLE OVERVIEW.

PRESENTLY DRIVE-THROUGH USES ARE NOT ALLOWED WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER, LAKE ASBURY VILLAGE CENTER ZONING DISTRICT.

THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS FOR COMMERCIAL USES TO BE AND A COMPACT FORM ASSESSABLE BY SIDEWALK.

AND TO REACH THAT OR BEAT THAT CHARGE, THERE WAS NO DRIVE-THROUGH USE ALLOWED. THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS ESPECIALLY WITH THE PANDEMIC, AND THIS THERE IS A DESIRE OR A REQUEST FIRE TO ALLOW CERTAIN USES TO HAVE DRIVE-THROUGH IS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER.

THEY SPECIFICALLY ARE DELICATESSENS AND TALENT FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS. PHARMACIES, LAUNDRY AND DRY CLEANERS AND BANKS. THOSE WOULD BE THE ONLY DRIVE-THROUGH'S THAT CAN UTILIZE DRIVE-THROUGH'S IN THE LAKE ASBURY CENTER IF THIS LEGISLATURE WERE TO PASS.

THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE SPECIFIC WORDING AND TEXT CHANGING TO THE PERMITTED USES, AND IT LAYS OUT THE USES THAT I JUST LISTED TO BE UTILIZED TO USE DRIVE-THROUGH SPIRIT JUST ADD, ALL OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND EVERYTHING REQUIRED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE VILLAGE CENTER, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THOSE LISTED USES THAT THEY COULD UTILIZE DRIVE-THROUGH SPIRIT. THE LAKE ASBURY GROUP WILL MEET THURSDAY ON THE 12TH, AND THIS WILL BE PROVIDED TO THEM AS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM. WE TRIED, BECAUSE OF THE TIMING AND THE SUBMITTAL OF THIS, WE DID -- IT DID NOT GO BEFORE THEM BEFORE THIS MEETING. BUT SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING YOU WILL HAVE ANY FEEDBACK THEY MAY HAVE BY THE ADOPTION HEARING. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PROPOSED CHANGE THAT WE SUPPORT THE PROPOSED CHANGES SET FORTH.

PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 303 ON A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE AND AS YOU ARE AWARE, 3-3 IS EIGHTFOLD OF NONSUPPORT. I JUST -- 3-3 IS A VOTE OF NON-

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PASSING. >> CAN YOU TELL ME THE THREE

PEOPLE SAID NO? >> THIS IS STAFF STATE, NOT A LOT OF DISCUSSION, IT WAS THEY DESIRE TO HAVE SOME FEEDBACK FR FROM THE CAC, AND THAT IS STAFFS INTERPRETATION OF WHY IT WENT

3-3. >> WOULD STARBUCKS BE INCLUDED?

>> STARBUCKS WOULD FALL INTO THAT.

>> DO WE HAVE BEEN ACTUAL DEFINITION OF A DELICATESSEN?

>> NOT AN OFFICIAL ONE IN THE CODE.

IF IT WAS LEFT UP TO THE DIRECTORS INTERPRETATION.

( INDISCERNIBLE ). >> WAS THERE DISCUSSION ON WHY A RESTAURANT TO HAVE DRIVE-THROUGH OR SITDOWN SEEDING?

>> NO, THAT WAS THE WORDING FROM THE APPLICANT, HE PROPOSED THAT WORDING. NO, THERE WASN'T THAT DISCUSSION AND HE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

>> LIKE, I AM THINKING ABOUT WE HAVE ROYAL MOVES COFFEE IN MIDDLEBURG THAT IS ONLY DRIVE-THROUGH.

THEY HAVE A FEW OUTDOOR TABLES, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE SITDOWN SEATS. WOULD THEY BE ELIMINATED?

>> BURGER KING OR MCDONALD'S, DOES ABBA SIT DOWN AS WELL AS DRIVE-THROUGH. DOES HAVE SIT DOWN AS WELL AS

DRIVE-THROUGH. >> DUNKIN' DONUTS HAS

DRIVE-THROUGH NOW TOO. >> BACK WOULD BE THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE. YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED THE SPECIFIC USES BOTH THEIR ARE NO COFFEE USES, IS IT COVERED UNDER

ANOTHER PART OF THIS? >> I BELIEVE COFFEE, THAT'S RIGHT I SO COFFEE MAY NOT. BUT SOMETHING THAT SOLD FOOD

ALSO WOULD FALL UNDER FAST FOOD. >> YES, THEY SELL YUMMY MILKSHAKES. DOES BACK CROSS BETWEEN FOOD AND A DRINK? IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE IT, BUT CALORIES ARE ENOUGH THAT HE NEEDS TO BE FOOD.

BUT THEY ARE GOOD. >> SOMEONE TOLD YOU --

>> MR. MILLER, WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT.

>> GOOD EVENING. I AM FRANK MILLER.

MY ADDRESS IS ONE INDEPENDENT DRUG SUITE 2300 AND JACKSONVILLE. WITH RESPECT TO THE ONE QUESTION ABOUT SITDOWN, WE DID NOT CHANGE THAT.

THE LANGUAGE THAT READS DELICATESSENS AND SIT DOWN FAST FOOD, WAS ALREADY THERE. WE SIMPLY ADDED WITH DRIVE-THROUGH. MY CONTEMPLATION WAS DUNKIN' DONUTS AND STARBUCKS WOULD FALL WITHIN THAT.

>> DUNKIN' DONUTS HAVE DRIVE-THROUGH ONLY, SOME DON'T

HAVE -- >> THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE A

PROBLEM AS IT IS WRITTEN OUT. >> IS IT A CLIENT REQUESTING THIS? ARE YOU SAYING THAT QUICKSAND YES, I HAVE A CLIENT SITTING RIGHT HERE THAT IS LOOKING -- I DON'T KNOW DO YOU HAVE ONE IN MIND? IS IT A DUNKIN' DONUTS? IS IT ONLY THE DRIVE-THROUGH?

MY CLIENT IS HAPPY. >> EVEN IF THEY DON'T SERVE

PASTRAMI. >> ANYTHING TO ADD MR. MILLER?

>> NO, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

>> I HAVE TO RESERVATIONS. NUMBER ONE IS TO MOVE FORWARD AS A COMMISION WITHOUT THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE COMMENT, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS WITHOUT BAD. THE SECOND THING IS, LAKE ASBURY, THE MASTER PLAN HAS VILLAGE CENTER TO BE WALKER THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU MIX IT UP WITH CARS.

>> PANDEMIC WISE PEOPLE GO THROUGH DRIVE-THROUGH'S CONSTANTLY NOW. 'S CRAZY PEOPLE WANT TO GET OUT

OF THE CAR. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ADVISOR

TO THE COMMITTEE THINGS. >> IF I COULD, FIRST OF ALL I

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DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION TONIGHT.

THIS IS SIMPLY FIRST READING. SECOND, I WILL ATTEND THE CAC MEETING THURSDAY NIGHT TO ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS AND SEE WHAT CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE. THIRDLY, BUT MOST IMPORTANT I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE WALK ABILITY OF THE VILLAGE CENTERS. REMEMBER, WE SHOULD HAVE ONLY GOTTEN TEN OF THESE AND 30,000 ACRES OF LAKE ASBURY.

THIS, WENT YOU TALK ABOUT WALKABLE WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTERS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A REFINED WALKABLE BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HAVE PEOPLE WALKING FROM 6 MILES AWAY TO GET TO A VILLAGE CENTER. THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL GET TO A VILLAGE CENTER IS BY DRIVING IN THEIR CAR.

WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER THERE WILL BE MULTI FAMILY PROJECTS WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE WALKING. BUT TO THE EXTENT WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING, 4-6 MILES WAY TO GET TO THE VILLAGE CENTER THEIR CARS WILL BE THERE. THEY WILL EITHER BE PARKING THEIR CARS OR WALKING SOMEWHERE, OR DOING A DRIVE-THROUGH.

YOUR CODE, UNDER LAKE ASBURY DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA, CALL FOR THE COUNTY REACTING OR CONTROLLING ROADWAYS OR AT LEAST MINIMIZE THE IMPACT YOU WILL HAVE CARS DRIVING INTO THE VILLAGE CENTER REGARDLESS AND THERE IS A NEED FOR DRIVE-THROUGH THAN WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT NEEDS TO BE DESIGNED IN A FASHION WHERE YOU MAINTAIN WALK ABILITY BECAUSE

THE CARS WILL BE THERE. >> WILL YOU SAY WHERE THE

LOCATION IS? >> THIS IS AN BLAKE BELL IS VERY -- THIS IS AN LAKE ASBURY, THE WINN-DIXIE AREA.

>> THANK YOU MR. MILLER. WE ONLY NEED, WE DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS ONE AND WE WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT HEARING.

>> BUT YOU NEED TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> THANK YOU. >> OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION ON ONE QUESTION US THAT.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE OF STAFF IS, GIVEN THE LOCATION THAT MR. MILLER JUST CITED, LAST MEETING WE APPROVED THE GAS STATION TO BE A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, WOULD IT HAVE A

DRIVE-THROUGH WITH THICK? >> FOR THAT PUD IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED? IT PROCEEDED THE LAKE ASBURY

[8. Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (E. Dendor)]

MASTER PLAN. THAT PUD DID.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> THAT BRINGS US BACK WE ARE DONE WITH THE TIME CERTAIN'S WE ARE BACK TO NUMBER EIGHT.

THE PROGRESS REPORT ON THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION.

>> GOOD EVENING BOARD AND CHAIR, I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON THE PROGRESS THE TEAM HAS MADE OVER THE LAST MONTH. TO CONDENSE AND SUMMARIZE THE FOUR PAGE REPORT YOU RECEIVED IN YOUR PACKET DESIGNERS CONTINUE WITH THEIR PROCESS WITH INPUT FROM THE PROJECT THERE'S -- PROJECT AND THE COUNTY AND THE CONTRACTORS APPROVED CONSTRUCTION AND CREATED DRAFT AGREEMENTS FOR REVIEW AND SIGNATURES, OF THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACT FOR THE FIRST CALLS CONNECTOR WE WILL HOLD A KICKOFF MEETING TOMORROW AFTERNOON FOR THE PROJECT. AND I PRESENTED BASICALLY

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PROGRAM OVERVIEW TO THE NORTHEAST VILLAGE ASSOCIATION AT THE HOLIDAY INN ON WELLS ROAD THERE.

AND I WILL PARTICIPATE IN A PRESENTATION NEXT WEEK AT THE FIRST COAST SUMMIT. AND FURTHER MORE WE WILL BE SETTING UP A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY FOR SUMMER WHICH IS NEAR COUNTY ROAD 18 AND WHILE WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING OPEN HOUSE FOR ALL PROJECTS, EARLY FALL IS WHAT WE ARE TARGETING. OVERALL ECONOMICS CONTINUED TO SPIRAL IN WAYS THAT ARE UNFORESEEN.

PRICING VARIABLES AND CHANGING COMMODITIES AS WE REFINE THE SCOPE IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE THE FINANCE PROJECT PROGRAM.

WITH THAT, MY CONCLUSION AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> WHAT WAS YOUR NEAR MISS? >> GOOD QUESTION.

THE SURVEY TEAM WAS OUT IN THE FIELD AND THEY GOT STUCK IN THE MUD. WHEN THEY CAME OUT, THEY HAD A FOUR-WHEEL-DRIVE PICKUP TRUCK AND NIPPED A TREE, SO WHENEVER THERE WAS A NEAR MISS, I DON'T BUT ANY STONE GO UNTURNED WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND WE DO A ROOT CAUSE ANALYSIS AND LOOK AT WHY THAT HAPPENED AND TRY TO GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE.

EVEN THOUGH IT SOUNDS SIMPLE THAT WILL BE OUR MANTRA EVEN WITH THE NEAR MISS YOU DON'T SAY NOBODY GOT HURT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. THE EQUIPMENT GOT A PINSTRIPE WANT TO LOOK AT EVERY NEAR MISS TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

>> IF YOU LET THEM GO AT THE BOTTOM.

>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO PUT THAT IN THE REPORT SO I

WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO LOOK. >> NEXT LINE I WILL INCLUDE THAT. THEY CAN CONSOLIDATE WITHOUT ADDING. BUT NEAR MISSES ARE ONE THING WE CONTINUED TO TRACK. WE WILL TRACK ALL OF THE

INCIDENTS FOR INDUSTRY STANDARD. >> STARTING TO GET CALLS FROM BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS IN REGARDS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THEIR PROPERTIES WILL IT IMPACT THEM.

WHAT IS THE BEST PROCESS TO HANDLE THOSE QUESTIONS?

>> AS FAR AS MANAGING THOSE EXPECTATIONS, WE HAVE OUR COUNTY WEBSITE WHICH HAS THE ABILITY TO SEND IN QUESTIONS.

I HAVE ALSO HAD QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE COME TO THE ENGINEERING FLOOR AND WALK THEM THROUGH. WE HAVE PROJECTS ON THE WALL THEY CAN SEE WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE ADD.

BUT FORTUNATELY PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW DEFINITIVELY WHAT WILL YOU DO ON MY FRONT PORCH AND THE DESIGNS ARE NOT THAT FAR ALONG.

I REALLY CAN'T SAY WE WILL MOVE YOUR MAILBOX OR WHATEVER WE WILL

ENTERTAIN THOSE AS WE GO ALONG. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> THANK YOU. BUSINESS TAX.

[9. Business Tax Update (T. Nagle)]

>> THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE BUSINESS TAX AND WHERE WE ARE AT. I WILL TURN TO COURTNEY.

MOST YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE TO SAY DESCRIPTION OF LOCAL BUSINESS TAX ENACTED BY AN ORDINANCE. THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS WHICH WE WILL TALK FURTHER ABOUT. IT IS NOT TO BE A REVENUE GENERATOR IT IS MEANT TO PAY FOR ITSELF AND SOME BENEFITS ALLOWING BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY AND PUBLIC SAFETY TO HAVE A LIST. I DID HIGHLIGHT SECTIONS THAT TALK ABOUT THESE AREAS IF YOU TALK TO COURTNEY OR MYSELF, THAT IS THE MAIN CONSTRUCTOR OF THIS. SOME OF THE PARTS HIGHLIGHTED ARE IMPORTANT. THERE HAS TO BE A COUNTY ADJACENT TO US AND IF YOU WANT TO USE SOMEONE -- IF YOU WANT TO

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USE ANOTHER COUNTY BESIDES ONE ADJACENT TO US THAT HAS DONE THE STUDY, YOU HAVE TO VERIFY THEIR STUDY IS NOT REASONABLE.

AS WE TALKED THROUGH THIS YOU WILL SEE WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE THE COUNTY HAS DONE THIS AND THE COUNTY STUDY.

AND THEN, IF YOU DO DECIDE TO DO THAT YOU NEED TO FIND A LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS IMPLEMENTED 205 AND COMPARABLE IN POPULATION. WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT UNDER 205, TO BE -- TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL AND MAKE IT WORK. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE FROM COMPARABLE COUNTIES. CHARLOTTE DID A STUDY, THEY DID A STUDY RELATING TO US. ALTHOUGH THESE COUNTIES WOULD BE CONSIDERED MORE COMPATIBLE THEY DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS TAX SO WE CAN'T LOOK AT THOSE. WE WILL START WITH DUE BALL COUNTY IT HAS A POPULATION OF ALMOST 1 MILLION PEOPLE WE LOOKED AT A RETAIL STORE AS EXAMPLES.

THIS WASN'T THE BALL COUNTY. JACKSONVILLE, DUVAL COUNTY'S ARE COMPLICATED. IF YOU OUR RETAIL STORES IT IS BASED ON $250,000 INVENTORY GENERATES $117 PER YEAR BUSINESS TAXPAYER YOU ARE PAYING THE CITY AND COUNTY TAX.

A CONTRACTOR LIKE A ROOFING CONTRACTORS BASED ON NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. SO BOTH STORAGE AND HOBBY SHOW THEY HAVE IMPLEMENTED A FLAT FEE.

CHARLOTTE DOES HAVE A TIERED SYSTEM UP $35 OR $25 DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF BUSINESS. LOOKING AT THIS, I THINK COURTNEY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND MYSELF WOULD RECOMMEND LOOKING AT MARTIN OR INDIAN RIVER AS THE ONES WE WENT LOOK AT BUT THAT IS YOUR DECISION. I WILL STOP AND TAKE A BREATH

AND LET YOU SAY WE HAVE TO SAY. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WHEN YOU GO BACK TO THE LANGUAGE IN YOUR DETERMINING HOW TO PROCEED, THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT ADJACENT COUNTIES.

WE WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE ADJACENT COUNTIES TO DETERMINE IF THEY HAD DONE A STUDY. A LOT COULD NOT FIGURE IT OUT THEMSELVES IF THEY HAD DONE IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT IN THE 95 TIMEFRAME. DEFAULTED TO THE STUDY BUT IN ORDER TO PASS DO BALL -- THE BALL COUNDUVALL, WE WENT TO THED BEYOND. ONE WAS ST. JOHN'S EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE DIRECTLY ABOVE US BUT DID NOT QUALIFY.

SO CHARLOTTE MARTIN AND INDIANA ARE BELOW US.

SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS THE WAY THE STATUTE READS AND THE WAY WE HAVE TO ADOPTED UNDER THE STATUTE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EVER INCREASE OUR BUSINESS TAXPAYER THE ONLY OUTLET IT PROVIDES IS TO EITHER REPEAL IT OR TO REDUCE IT.

BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU SHOULD CONSIDER WHEN YOU LOOK AT

IT. >> THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING AND I SPENT TIME TO GET BOTH ANSWERED.

WE REACHED OUT TO MOST OF THE COUNTIES ON THE LIST BUT THESE ARE THE ONES THAT RESPONDED AND GAVE US DETAILED INFORMATION.

THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW DO THEY HANDLE CODE ENFORCEMENT.

DO THEY ACTIVELY KNOCK ON DOORS, THEY DON'T THEY WAIT FOR COMPLAINTS TO COME IN OR IF YOU DID YOUR BUSINESS TAX LAST YEAR END YOU DON'T DO IT THIS YEAR THEY SEND YOU A LETTER SAYING YOU EITHER TELL US YOU ARE OUT OF BUSINESS OR PAY YOUR BUSINESS TAXPAYER THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT ZONING.

MOST DO SELF AT CESSATION. INDIAN RIVER DOES A SEPARATE FEE AND FORM FOUR HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.

THEY REQUIRE THEM TO REGISTER AND HAVE A HOME-BASED BUSINESS PERMIT BUSINESS PERMIT THROUGH THE COUNTY IN ADDITION TO THE BUSINESS LICENSE. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED IF THE COMPLAINT IS FILED WHEN ACTION IS TAKEN, MOST SAID IN THE LETTER THEY DO OPEN A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE SINCE INDIAN RIVER OPENS A CASE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN APPLY THE LEAN IF NEED BE IS COLLECT A FINE. AND THEN, EXEMPT BUSINESSES, THEIR WORK QUESTIONS ABOUT DO EXEMPT BUSINESSES HAVE TO

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THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO SETS, IF THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED BY STATUTE, THEY ARE NOT LISTED, THEY DON'T HAVE TO REGISTER.

IF THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM PAYING THINGS UP TO COME INTO THE COUNTY, REGISTERED THEIR BUSINESSES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE EXEMPTION. THERE ARE VERY FEW THAT CAN AROUND DOING THE PAPERWORK AT ALL.

THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS THAT KEEP THEM FROM PAIN AND THEY WILL BE ISSUED AS A BUSINESS TAXPAYER AND THEN THEY SAY YES, I AM COMBINED WITH THE BUSINESS TAXPAYER TAKE EXEMPTIONS FROM FLORIDA STATUTE, THE BOTTOM SECTION WOULD BE THE SECTION THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT AT ALL.

AT THE TOP THEY HAVE TO HAVE A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT BUT IT IS CONSIDERED A 0-DOLLAR BUSINESS TAXPAYER EXEMPT FROM PLAYING --

PAYING. >> THE LAST ONE WOULD BE A FEE GENERATED WE MADE ASSUMPTIONS, WHAT BUSINESS TAX WOULD BE COLLECTED AND HOW MUCH THE TAX COLLECTOR WOULD TAKE AND HOW MUCH WE WOULD PROVIDE TO THE MUNICIPALITIES.

WE DID INCLUDE ONE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO WORK THESE CASES. WE DID TAKE THE ZONING TECHNICIAN OUT OF HERE. AND THEN, REVENUE THAT WOULD BE OVER AND ABOVE COLLECTED WOULD GO TO THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THERE IS A NOTE AND WHAT COURTNEY SAID AS FAR AS FEES ESTABLISHED WE CAN EVER INCREASE ONLY DECREASE.

I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >> HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THE FIRST ROLL UP BUSINESS TO GET THE LETTER IF WE DON'T HAVE RECORDS

OF WHERE THEY ARE? >> I WOULD RECOMMEND WE REACH OUT THROUGH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO IDENTIFY -- GET IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER, YOU WOULD SEND A BETTER.

>> IF WE DON'T CATCH A BUSINESS THE FIRST YEAR, THEY COULD RIDE FOR MANY YEARS WITHOUT GETTING A LETTER?

>> YES, UNLESS THEY ARE THROUGH THE CHAMBER AND WE HAVE REACHED

OUT TO THEM. >> THE BUSINESS WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE DEFINITION HAS TO BE INCORPORATED INCORPORATED IT COULD BE A SOLE PROPRIETORSHIP.

>> IS DEFINITELY IN THE STATUTE. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME BUT IT IS IN OUR DRAFT ORDINANCE , IT IS SET BY STATUTE.

AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE WEIGHT THE EXEMPTIONS ARE.

>> WE COULD TIE ANY FUTURE FEDERAL ASSISTANCE CRITERIA TO RECOGNIZE THE BUSINESS LICENSE AS AN ESTABLISHED BUSINESS?

>> YES, WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE CARES ACT AND THERE WERE

SEVERAL COUNTIES -- >> OR YOU JUST SAY YOU HAVE ANY

REORIENT. >> ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR HAVING A BUSINESS TAX YOU MUST BE REGISTERED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. USUALLY TO OBTAIN YOUR BUSINESS TAX IT IS PROVIDE ME YOUR REGISTRATION AND THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION. YES, YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED AND BEGIN YOU ARE SELF REPORTING.

BUT MOST PEOPLE WITH CARES MONEY REQUIRE BUSINESSES TO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE THAT IS CURRENT.

AS YOU KNOW THAT HAS BEEN A POINT OF CONTINGENCY.

WE REQUIRED THEM TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE TO ENSURE, SINCE WE DID NOT HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE.

>> THAT WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE IF IT EVER COMES UP AGAIN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS >> I WOULD SEE IT AS AN ADVANTAGE, PERSONALLY. I THINK IT IS A SMALL AMOUNT TO PAY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU'RE THERE.

WE HAVE LOT OF BUSINESS -- TRACK BUSINESSES AND THEY QUESENBERRY.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THEY ARE THERE IF THEY WANT MORE CLIENTS OR CUSTOMERS.

IF WE WOULD HANDLE IT IN A POSITIVE WAY, MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING FORWARD TO REGISTER, IT MAY BE HARD TO FIND THEM, BUT IF WEAK MARKET IT THAT WAY, MAYBE PEOPLE WILL BE

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MORE APT TO DO THAT. >> I COULD ALSO ARGUE THE OPPOSITE SIDE, IF WE GIVE SOMEONE A BUSINESS LICENSE THEY PAY THEIR TAXES AND GET A RECEIPT AND THEY DON'T DO THE JOB SOMEONE COULD SAY, WE ALLOW THEM TO BE IN BUSINESS BECAUSE WE SOAK THEM FOR BUSINESS TAX FOR $25.

>> WE ALREADY SAID WE ARE NOT SAYING IT IS GOOD OR BAD BUSINESS WE ARE JUST SAYING THEY EXIST.

IF THIS IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT THEN WE ARE NOT CONDONING OR SAYING THE COMPANIES ARE REPARABLE.

THAT IS NOT OUR JOB TO DO THAT. WE ARE JUST SAYING IT AND SAYING

THEY DO EXISTS IN OUR COUNTY. >> REMEMBER GUY STOPPED IN, HE HAD 60 DIFFERENT COUNTIES GIVE HIM A RECEIPT AND HE WAS DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE HE DROVE HERE AND WE DID NOT HAVE ONE.

AND HE WAS CERTAINLY NOT SOMEONE I WOULD DO BUSINESS WITH.

>> THE DIFFERENCE IS ONE IS 40 AND ONE IS 25 ARE THERE ANY OTHER CRITERIA TO MAKE A JUDGMENT ON.

YOU ARE CONFIDENT EITHER ONE WILL WORK AS WELL.

>> YES IT SAYS COMPARABLE POPULATION AND WE PROVIDED YOU

WITHIN A FEW THOUSAND. >> HE WORRIES ME WE CAN'T RAISE THE RATE AGAIN WITH INFLATION, WE CAN EASILY BE UNDERWATER INTO

YEARS. >> CAN I POINT OUT, AND CRINKLE THEY HAVE A BUSINESS RECEIPT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IN ANY IS VOLUNTEERING TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO US.

HIS ARM IS ACTUALLY FALLING OFF. >> YOU HAVE TO GET HIM NOW BECAUSE NEXT WEEK HE WILL BE A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

>> PUT YOUR CITIZEN KANE HAT ON AND COME ON UP HERE.

>> I SUPPORTED IT WHEN WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE THIS YEARS AGO AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. IT IS A GOOD REGISTRATION.

WE HAVE ONE AND CRINKLE SPRINGS AND WE USE IT.

SOMEONE CALLED ME YESTERDAY AND SAID, I WENT TO FILE FOR A BUSINESS TAX AND THEY TOLD ME I HAD TO HAVE AN INSPECTION.

WE TOLD THEM THEY HAD TO HAVE A FIRE INSPECTION WHICH MAKES SENSE. WHEN YOU DO EXCHANGES IT'S A GOOD WAY TO SAY IT. BEING A MUNICIPALITY WE HAVE OUR OWN. WE DO THE SAME THINGS YOU DO WE HAVE A BUSINESS TAXPAYER IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE REVENUE YOU CAN TAKE IT UP WITH THE NEXT COUNCIL.

WE ARE IN POSITION AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DO IT FOR EVERYONE. OR WE HAVE TO DO FOR ALL.

>> WHEN WE DO UNDER THE STATUTE WHEN WE TAX WE GIVE GREEN COVE A

PORTION. >> SO WE WILL GET MORE MONEY.

>> >> I'M GLAD I DON'T HAVE TO DO THE FIRE INSPECTION ANYMORE. THERE WILL BE NO REQUIREMENT FOR

THEM TO COME IN AND DO THOSE. >> THEY STILL HAVE TO GET YOUR

LICENSE. >> BY STATUTE WE CAN'T EXEMPT

OUT MINUTES POLITIES. >> THERE COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE YOU COULD REPAY THE MONEY YOU GET BACK TO THE BUSINESSES.

IT WOULD ONLY BE $10,000. >> HOW MUCH.

>> HOURS IS $100,000. >> IT'S ACTUALLY A LOT.

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>> ALL OF MINE ARE 100. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT MAKES MONEY OR NOT. I JUST I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU HAD TO COLLECT FROM EVERYONE AND I WOULD LIKE THAT MONEY BACK.

BUT IT IS A GOOD IDEA. IT IS VALID.

IT REPRESENTS AND IT GIVES US A LIST.

IT LETS PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND IT WAS DOING WHAT.

YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW THAT AS WELL.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. MORE QUESTIONS? ARE WE READY TO MOVE? ARE WE GOING TO DO A HEARING ON THIS QUICKSAND WHAT WILL THE PLAN BE? THE PLAN HAS PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS.

THE PLAN IS IF THE CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD, BASED ON THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE FOUND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS WE WILL UPDATE THE ORDINANCE DRAFT, AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IT ON THE NEXT BOARD MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS BUT IT WILL BE THE FIRST MEETING IN

JUNE? >> MY PERSONAL OPINION WE ALL TO GO WITH A HIGHER RATE. IT IS PRETTY LOW TO START WITH.

>> IF THEY WANT TO PROCEED WITH THE BUSINESS TAX AND WHAT RATE

WE WILL GO WITH. >> $40 IS CHEAPER THAN ORANGE COVE AND GREEN PARK. THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO.

>> WE HAVE TO GO WITH A HIGHER RATE.

>> IT'S CHEAPER,.

>> I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS COURTNEY AND I EXPLORED. IT WAS AN ONSET THAT WOULD

HAPPEN. >> WE HAVE A QUESTION OVER HERE HOW DID THEY GET THERE SO HOT? THEY PROBABLY ADOPTED THIERS

BACK IN -- >> THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T DO IT UNDER THE STUDY. MAYBE THEY CAN DO CERTAIN CLASSIFICATIONS. THE COUNTY HAD THIS TAX BOOK BACK THEN IT WAS CALLED A LICENSE IN THE 70S AND 80S THOSE WERE STATUTORY FIGURES GIVEN.

AT THAT TIME, AS THEY CHANGED YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO

INCREASE THEM OR CHANGE THEM. >> THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY REPEALED THERE'S CREATED THESE CONDITIONS.

>> >> I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNMENT BELONGS IN THE PEOPLE'S BUSINESSES.

>> WE PAID THE EDC A LOT OF MONEY AND I DID TALK TO LAURA AND SHE SAID, THEY HAVE QUARTERLY DATA ON RAWLINSON BUSINESS FROM TALLAHASSEE. THEY HAVE THE DATA TO PROVIDE IF WE HAS. I STILL HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE SAY THE BENEFIT IT WILL PROVIDE TO BUSINESS OWNERS I THINK CLAY COUNTY NEEDS TO BE BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

WE ARE TAXING BUSINESS OWNERS WHO WANT TO HAVE A BUSINESS HERE. I THINK IT COULD DRIVE BUSINESS

AWAY. >> YOU COULD DROP A BUS OF WHAT QUICKSAND WHEN THEY DO IT THEY SAY WHERE ARE YOUR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, WE DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE AN IDEA.

>> THIS IS SOMETHING THE EDC COULD PROVIDE.

WE DON'T THINK IT WILL GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.

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MOST OF OUR BUSINESSES PROBABLY HAVE 1-5 EMPLOYEES, 1-10 EMPLOYEES. AND THE, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IF I REGISTER MY BUSINESS I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU MANY

EMPLOYEES I HAVE, DO I? >> NOT UNLESS YOU WANT --

>> I AM A PRIVATE LLC, MY PERSONAL BUSINESS IS A PRIVATE LLC, NO ONE EXCEPT MY OTHER SHAREHOLDER WHICH IS MY HUSBAND HAS ANY IDEA OF MY FINANCIALS AND HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WE HAVE.

WE FILE OUR TAXES WITH THE GOVERNMENT.

I DON'T SELL TO THE PUBLIC SO HAVING MY BUSINESS IN CLAY COUNTY, IM NOT LOOKING TO ADVERTISE JUST MY OPINION.

>> ARE WE ABLE TO GET THE LIST? >> I WOULDN'T SAY IT GIVES YOU THE LIST OF ALL OF THE BUSINESSES IT GIVES YOU THE TYPE BUT NOT DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS.

>> SOMEONE OFFERING OUT OF THE GARAGE WON'T REGISTER WITH THE

CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. >> SOMEONE WORKING OUT OF THE GARAGE WON'T PAY THE TAXES. I WOULD THINK IF THEY WANT MORE QUESTIONS THIS IS -- IF THEY WANT MORE CUSTOMERS THIS IS A

GREAT OPTION. >> JUST TO GET OUT OF THIS LET'S DO THE ORDINANCE AND WE WILL VOTE ON WHEN WE.

[10. Lien Reduction]

>> LIEN REDUCTION NUMBER TEN. >>

>> GOOD EVENING YOU GUYS HAVE A MEMO ON THIS ITEM.

THIS IS 105 SUZANNE AVENUE, ORANGE PARK, FLORIDA.

A MILL BAY WAS THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHEN IT BECAME ACTIVE.

IT WAS ACTIVE FOR JUNK HOW MUCH TRASH AND DEBRIS THERE WAS A FINE IMPOSED ON THE PROPERTY. AS OF DECEMBER 8, 2021 THE VIOLATIONS WERE CORRECTED BALEEN -- STAFF COST AFTER 41 DOCUMENTS AND EIGHT INSPECTIONS WITH $1,620.

ON APRIL 7, TWINS TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE RECOMMENDED THAT THE 23,850 ELDERLY BE REDUCED TO $620.

THE DECISION WAS BASED ON THE FACT THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD SERIOUS MENTAL AND HEALTH ISSUES AND WASN'T ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY. THE CURRENT OWNERS, HAVE SPENT $13,000 TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY WHICH TOOK 20 DAYS.

YOU ALSO ADD THE NEW ITEM AND THAT SHEET WAS INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE, THAT GAVE YOU A SYNOPSIS OF THE PROPERTY.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AND MR. SAUERS IS HERE AS WELL.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION? >> YOU DO.

>> NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.

COME ON OUT. >> MY NAME IS JAMES I LIVE AT 2910 MAGNOLIA ROAD IN MAGNOLIA, PARK.

I GREW UP -- HIS MOM AND DAD PASSED AWAY HAD SOME ISSUES, I HAVE BEEN BY THERE IT JUST GOT BACK TO WHERE HE COULD TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF I'VE WORKED WITH HIS EX-WIFE AND DAUGHTER TO GET HIM HELP AND HE IS NOW IN TEXAS, LIVING WITH HIS DAUGHTER AND

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GETTING MEDICAL HELP AND DOING GOOD.

I ASSUMED THE PROPERTY FROM HIM. WE DID CLEANING UP.

IT WAS ATROCIOUS I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE PICTURES WE PRESENTED. IT WAS ALL I COULD DO TO GET IT CLEANED UP IN 20 DAYS. BOWERS I WAS PUTTING IN.

I WANTED TO GET THE WINDS STOPPED, I APPRECIATE ANYTHING

YOU CAN DO. >> TAKE A MOTION.

>> I HAVE A COMMENT. >> MS. NEELY IS REPRESENTING YOU

TODAY? >> SHE IS LIKE FAMILY.

>> HIS WIFE CALLED ME -- SHE IS A HAIRDRESSER SHE HAD A LOT OF

APPOINTMENTS. >> THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU PLEASE

SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE. >> HIS WIFE IS A HAIRDRESSER SHE HAD A LOT OF APPOINTMENTS THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT TO TELL THE LADIES SHE COULDN'T COME. I WON'T TAKE BUT A SECOND BUT I HAVE TO SAY THIS. I KNOW HIM BECAUSE OF ORANGE PARK. FOR 12 YEARS I HAVE BEEN RETIRED. THIRTY-FOUR I WORKED FOR ORANGE PARK. I WANT YOU TO KNOW, LISTENING TO YOU TONIGHT I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A CLAY COUNTY'S COMMISSIONER MEETING BUT I KNEW THE PRIOR PEOPLE AND THE ATTORNEYS.

BUT HEARING YOU TONIGHT, IF I WAS NOT 79-YEARS-OLD I WOULD ASK COULD I GET A CHILD. IT IS JUST IN MY BLOOD AND I ENJOYED IT. LIKE HE SAID, HE IS HERE AND HIS WIFE OWNS A HAIR SALON. WHEN I WENT OUT THERE WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES I'VE SEEN IT LOOKED ATROCIOUS.

IT WAS SO BAD IF YOU DROVE BY YOU COULD NOT SEE A LOT OF THINGS. THEY WENT IN EVERY DAY AFTER WORK. EVERY SUNDAY AFTER CHURCH AND THEY WERE CONSTANTLY CLEANING EVERY DAY.

PEOPLE WOULD COME BY AND GIVE A THUMBS UP.

PEOPLE WOULD SAY THANK YOU. IF NOTHING ELSE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE YOU CAN DO BESIDES WIPING OUT THE LIEN ALTOGETHER,

ANYTHING IS APPRECIATED. >> ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?

>> SHE KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT.

YOU SAID YOU ARE 49-YEARS-OLD? >> SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE IS

39-YEARS-OLD. >> LET'S MOVE ON HERE.

WE WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> ISN'T IT IN YOUR DISTRICT?

>> I RECOMMEND 0. >> I MOVE THAT WE WAVE THE LIEN.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND? A GUTSY PRESIDENT HERE.

>> YOU MUST HAVE A REAL POWER. >> THE REASON I SUPPORT IT IS BECAUSE THE OWNERS HAVE ALREADY SPENT $13,000 CLEANING IT UP.

OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT WASTE MANAGEMENT, CLEARLY THEY WERE NOT UNDER THAT. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE LOTS OF TRIPS TO THE LANDFILLED AND THEY HAVE INVESTED THE MONEY.

>> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> I AM PROUD TO BE A CLAY COUNTY CITIZEN. GOOD JOB YOU'RE

VERY GOOD JOB. >> MY WIFE WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. SHE WOULD NEVER LIVE ANYWHERE

ELSE. >> IN A MONTH GO BY THE PROPERTY AND LOOK AT IT.

>> NOW WE KNOW WHY COMMISSIONER RENNINGER WENT TO 0.

>> ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD IT WAS GOOD TO SEE YOU TRYING TO HELP A FRIEND AND NEIGHBOR AND IT EVOLVED FROM THERE.

WE ARE GLAD IT IS AVAILABLE FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE THERE AND CARRY

ON. >> AND YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT

PERSONNEL THEY WERE VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU, THAT IS IT.

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>> OKAY, ITEM 11. >> ITEM 11, I BELIEVE YOU ARE

[11. Request to use alternative procedure to notice public hearings for the consideration of potential purchase and sale agreements for the purchase of identified real property for the Bonded Transportation Program and Facilities Department]

FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCEDURES. THERE IS A FLORIDA STATUTE THAT GOVERNS OUR PROCEDURE FOR HOW TO PURCHASE PROPERTY, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS AN ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURE.

TONIGHT, TO CONFORM WITH OUR ORDINANCE WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPERTIES WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND LISTED IN THE BACKUP IS THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE PROCEDURES FOR US TO PURSUE THOSE PROPERTIES.

MANY OF THEM ARE IN CONNECTION WITH THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM. OTHERS WE MAY HAVE TO DO MORE ACQUISITION FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY. AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL ONES WITH FACILITY NEEDS. THERE IS NO DETERMINATION AND

THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU. >> I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I

HAVE IS WHY. >> THE PROCEDURE ALLOWS YOU TO SHORTEN THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH YOU CAN BRING A MATTER BACK TO THE BOARD. THE FLORIDA STATUTE REQUIRES A 30 DAY NOTICE AND CERTAIN PROVISIONS TO PROTECT APPRAISALS FROM THE PUBLIC RECORDS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE ARE HANDLING THIS WE DON'T HAVE TO PROTECT THIS. WE ARE PROVIDING THE APPRAISALS TO THE PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE WERE TRYING TO NEGOTIATE AND IT REDUCES THE TIMEFRAME WE HAVE TO PROVIDE NOTICE FOR FIVE DAYS AND IT ALLOWS US TO BRING IT TO YOU QUICKER.

>> IT GIVES US AN ADVANTAGE IN THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS, I

THINK. >> WE ARE NEGOTIATING WITH THE

SELLER, RIGHT? >> CORRECT.

>> IT GIVES LIST TRANSFER -- TRANSPARENCY.

>> IT GIVES BECAUSE THEY CAN ASK FOR APPRAISALS AND THERE'S NO

PROTECTION. >> ANYBODY ELSE?