Apr 07, 2022 Historic Preservation Board

[Call to Order]

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. >> I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THE ONLY -- LET'S SEE.

WE'RE ONLY MISSING ONE AND THAT'S IT? IS THAT THE ONLY ONE WE'RE MISSING? OKAY. SO WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE CAN GET GOING.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I HAD PRINTED UP THE AGENDA FROM THE WEBSITE BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO BY IT TONIGHT.

ARE WE GOING TO START HERE, BETH?

[Approval of Minutes]

OKAY. -- >> DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE

MINUTES? >> YES, I DO ACTUALLY.

IS IT IN HERE? THE MINUTES? OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

HAS EVERYBODY SEEN A COPY OF THE MINUTES? OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO REVIEW THEM BEFORE WE VOTE TO APPROVE

THEM? >> SURE.

NORMALLY BUT I DON'T WANT TO MESS UP THIS NEW REGIME WE'VE GOT HERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO

WORK OUT. >> WE'RE LEARNING AS WE GO.

IT'S A NEW PROCESS. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME WE'VE HAD THIS PROCESS HERE. AND WE CAN JUST GO RIGHT THROUGH IT.

SO DOES EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE THE MINUTES? HAVE THEY SEEN THE MINUTES? ARE WE READY TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM LAST TIME?

>> YES. >> OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM LAST MINUTES.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED?

>>

>> MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOW THE AGENDA.

THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED. WE HAVE A SLOT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT WHILE WE'RE HERE?

[1.  Budget and Procurement Process]

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>> OKAY. AND SO IF WORSE CASE SCENARIO IF THEY TOOK IT OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET THAT WOULD LEAVE US WITH APPROXIMATELY 30

SOMETHING? >> 2,900.

>> SO IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THE SLIM WHITMAN, THEN THAT WILL REDUCE THAT CONSIDERABLY AS WELL.

>> CORRECT. YES.

>> OKAY. >> BUT THE BUDGET YEAR STARTS AGAIN OCTOBER 1ST. YOU KNOW.

IT JUST DEPENDS HOW QUICKLY WE CAN TURN AROUND THE SLIM WHITMAN

AND GET THAT CEMENTED. >> EXCUSE ME.

DO THE -- I HAD A QUESTION. DOES THE BUDGET ROLL OVER FOR EACH YEAR OR IF IT'S NOT SPENT, THEN WE LOSE THAT MONEY?

>> YES. >> IF THAT'S THE CASE, CAN WE GO TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND REQUEST THAT WE CHANGE THAT?

>> YOU COULD ASK. I WOULD BELIEVE THAT IF YOU HAD A SLATE OF ITEMS THAT YOU WANTED TO WORK ON, PROJECTS THAT YOU REALLY WERE COMMITTED TO AND HAD FUNDING DOLLARS THAT YOU WANTED TO GO AND ASK THEM SPECIFICALLY FOR, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE

BEST APPROACH. >> ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERING THIS MARKER, THEY'RE BACK LOGGED FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IN READING THIS AND SO WE DIDN'T GET TIN VOICE AND, THEREFORE, IT WAS NOT PAID IN 2021.

BUT IT WAS LAST YEAR'S PROJECT. >> CORRECT.

>> SO THAT WOULD -- >> AND WE'RE HOPING TO TRANSFER

IT SO THAT WE WOULD START OUT -- >> IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO

GO TO THE COMMISSION TO -- >> STAFF IS WORKING WITH OUR BUDGET DEPARTMENT TO HOPEFULLY GET THAT HANDLED SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO AND ASK FOR THAT BUT STAFF WILL NOT --

>> I'M NOT THE PERSON THAT DID THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE THE CASE AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE 5,000 TO PURSUE THE SLIM WHITMAN MARKER AS WELL AS IF YOU WANTED TO GO THROUGH ANY OTHER MARKERS OR ITEMS. WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED.

>> IS THAT REGULATED BY ANY STATE POLICIES OR ANYTHING? IS IT SOMETHING THAT IF WE REQUESTED AND THERE'S A MEANS CHANGING IT, WE CAN'T CHANGE IT OR IS THERE A STATE REGULATION

THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO? >> I BELIEVE THE COUNTY I'M SURE HAS PROCEDURES AS FAR AS ADJUSTING THE BUDGET.

>> OKAY. >> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM BUT IF WE NEEDED TO, WE COULD PURSUE THAT AND FIND OUT ANSWERS FOR IT.

>> SLIM WHITMAN HISTORIC MARKERS.

[2.  Slim Whitman Historic Marker]

>> GET YOUR MICROPHONE. >> THE SLIM WHITMAN HISTORIC MARKER, DISCUSSION OF ELIGIBILITY.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR -- THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTING THIS PROCESS OR ARE WE

STILL GOOD TO GO ON THAT? >> SO I SPOKE WITH THE STATE BECAUSE I HAD READ THAT FOR THE FLORIDA HERITAGE SITE MARKER, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU'RE COMMEMORATING HAD TO HAVE PASSED 30 YEARS AGO BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME LANGUAGE ABOUT AN EVENT 30 YEARS AGO AND SO I CALLED THE STATE AND ASKED WOULD THIS INDIVIDUAL QUALIFY. HE DID NOT PASS 30 YEARS AGO BUT IT'S LESS THAN THAT BUT I EXPLAINED THAT HE PURCHASED PROPERTY HERE AND I WAS TOLD THAT SINCE HIS CAREER WAS GREATER THAN 30 YEARS AGO, THAT CONSTITUTES THE EVENT AND WE

COULD CERTAINLY PURSUE IT. >> AND WHEN WILL YOU GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT? WILL YOU HEAR SOMETHING BACK

FROM THE STATE? >> I SPOKE TO THE STATE AND THEY

CONFIRMED IT. >> SO THE NEXT STEP IS THE

OFFICIAL APPLICATION. >> YES.

SO WE'LL NEED THE ADDRESS OF WHERE THE MARKER WILL GO, A GPS LOCATION, AND I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THE INFORMATION.

JERRY TRAINED ME VERY WELL ON THE AUGUSTA SAVAGE.

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APPLICATION INFORMATION. >> I DID A BUNCH OF RESEARCH.

SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CONNIE BETWEEN LAST AND THIS MEETING AND THE PROPERTY THAT THE MARKER IS GOING TO GO ON THAT'S PROPOSED IF IT GETS APPROVED OBVIOUSLY IS THE ACTUAL WOOD PECKER PARADISE, THE PROPERTY THAT HE PURCHASED IN '57 AND MOVED HERE AND SO THERE'S -- I DON'T KNOW THAT INTERNET EVIDENCE IS SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT BUT THERE'S ENOUGH MATERIAL ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THERE AND WHY HE PURCHASED IT AND MOVED TO CLAY COUNTY THAT I THINK IS PART OF THE APPLICATION THAT WE COULD MAKE A GOOD CASE SINCE THEY'RE SAYING SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD QUALIFY.

SO APPRECIATE YOUR HOPE. I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF BACK AND

FORTH. >> WE WILL NEED TO CREATE A BIB LEE I DON'T GO IF I AND -- BIBLIOGRAPHY.

>> YES. THERE ARE STILL WHITMAN FAMILY

LIVING OUT THERE AS WELL. >> OKAY.

>> AND THE -- HIS GRANDSON DEWEY BEAGLE LIVES OUT IN JACKSON BEACH BUT THEY'RE HERE QUITE FREQUENTLY AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT BROUGHT A LOT OF SLIM WHITMAN'S AND MEMORABILIA TO DISPLAY AT THE MUSEUM. SO THERE'S SOME REALLY INTERESTING -- HIS VERY FIRST AND LAST GUITAR, CONCERT GUITAR, WHITE SEQUINED JACKET. BEAUTIFUL STUFF.

THE FAMILY IS INCREDIBLE. REALLY NICE PEOPLE.

EASY TO WORK WITH. OKAY. SO ANYWAY.

[3.  Augusta Savage Historic Marker]

>> YES, SIR. SO MARCH 28TH WE RECEIVED THE MARKER AND OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS IT STORED AWAY FOR US PROTECTED UNTIL WE CAN COME UP WITH A DATE TO HAVE IT INSTALLED. AND WE'RE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS. WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THEIR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER TO TRY TO DETERMINE THE BEST DATE THAT WE CAN DO THIS FOR. GLAD YOU'RE BACK JERRY SO THAT YOU CAN BE HERE FOR THE UNVEILING SINCE YOU'RE THE CHAMPION OF THIS PROJECT AND SO WE WILL GET BACK WITH YOU.

THEY ARE PLANNING ON STARTING CLASSES AT THE MENTORING CENTER I BELIEVE IN THE FALL BUT I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WOULD LIKE TO IT TO MUCH SOONER THAN THE FALL SO WE WILL CERTAINLY LET YOU KNOW WHAT DATE CAN BE CHOSEN FOR THIS.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU ON THAT.

[4.  Historic Marker Process]

LAST MONTH FELICIA, VOLUNTEERED TO DEVELOP A FLOWCHART PROCESS FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER HISTORIC MARKER APPLICATIONS WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND WANT YOU TO CONSIDER A MARKER.

SHE'S CREATED THE FLOWCHART IN YOUR PACKET AND I'M SURE SHE

COULD EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. >> OKAY. FOR YOU PROCESS FOLKS, THIS IS LEVEL ONE AND IT'S ROLLED UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT COULD PROBABLY GO BEHIND A FEW OF THESE BOXES BUT I WANTED TO GIVE US SOMETHING TO REACT TO AND SO JUST NOTE THAT THIS IS A DRAFT. RIGHT.

SO WE NEED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH IT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ALIGNED AND THEN WHAT IT WOULD DO WOULD HELP NOT ONLY THOSE OF US COMING IN NEW BUT ANYONE THAT WANTED TO LEVERAGE THE BOARD IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING IN AN APPLICATION FOR HISTORIC

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>> AM I JUST REMEMBERING READING THAT A CITIZEN DOES NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IN ORDER TO

APPLY FOR A MARKER? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY CAN APPLY THEMSELVES IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO PAY FOR IT THEMSELVES. IF THEY ARE WISHING THE BOARD TO PAY FOR IT, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND YOU ALL THROUGH YOUR BUDGET THEY CAN COME THROUGH YOU.

>> AND -- THEY UNDERSTAND I'M NEW AT THIS AS WELL AND HOLD MY

HAND THROUGH THESE PROCESSES. >> YEAH.

I LIKE HAVING A PROCESS FOR TWO REASONS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN THEN DISSEMINATE TO PEOPLE SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME TO ME IN PUB LICKS AND SAY -- PUBLIX AND SAY I COULD SAY FILL OUT THIS FORM.

AND THEN SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, A PROCESS GIVES YOU I FORGOT THE SECOND THING I WAS GOING TO SAY. BUT IT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO SORT OF TRACK OUT. I REMEMBER NOW.

GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO TRACK IF WE'RE GETTING A BUNCH OF APPLICATIONS THAT ARE FORTUNATE THE COUNTY BUT ARE NOT NECESSARILY FITTING THE STATE REQUIREMENTS THEN WE CAN SAY DO WE WANT TO BRAINSTORM ON IS THERE A WAY FOR THE COUNTY ITSELF TO RECOGNIZE THINGS AND OUR OFFICIAL STATE MARKERS.

THERE MAY NOT BE A NEED FOR THAT BUT IT GIVES YOU DATA IF WE HAVE THE APPLICATION ON FILE SOMEWHERE WE CAN SAY WE GOT TEN OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS. AND WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE AND WE WILL DEFINITELY INCLUDE THE MARKER.

>> AND IT ALSO DOESN'T PREVENT SOMEONE FROM JUST SHOWING UP AT A MEETING EITHER AND TALKING ABOUT A THING THEY WANT TO DO RIGHT. IT'S A PROCESS WHERE WE CAN EASILY DEAL WITH IT BUT IF SOMEBODY SHOWED UP, THIS WOULD NOT PREVENT THEM FROM COMING AND TALKING BEFORE THEY FILLED OUT THE APPLICATION. WE CAN SAY GREAT.

WE LOVE OR DON'T LOVE THE IDEA. >> GREAT POINT.

SHOULD THERE BE A CAVEAT ABOUT THAT AND THE APPLICANT SWIM

LANE? >> MAYBE.

I DON'T KNOW. I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS PEOPLE COULD JUST SHOW UP IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION AND TALK ABOUT IT. I THINK IF WE ARE INDIVIDUALLY

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>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE SHOULD PUT IT ON THERE EITHER BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T -- WE -- IF SOMEONE COMES BEFORE THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND WANTS TO TALK ABOUT A MARKER, WE SHOULD STILL HEAR THEM OUT AT A MEETING.

>> SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S TWO WAYS TO START.

A WAY TO START WITH PRIVATE FUNDING AND PUBLIC FUNDING AND THAT MIGHT BE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS BECAUSE ONE GOES THROUGH

THE BOARD AND ANOTHER DOESN'T. >> SAY SOMEBODY HAS AN IDEA AND THEY KNOW THIS BOARD EXISTS BUT THEY DON'T OTHER GO LOOK AT THE WEBSITE. DELAYS LIKE I HAVE AN IDEA.

I KNOW THEY DO THAT. AND THEY SHOW UP.

WE HAVE A PROCESS AND WE CAN HEAR THEM OUT AND SAY GOOD NEWS IS REAL SIMPLE WAY TO GET YOUR THING ROLLING IS WE'LL SEND YOU A LINK AND YOU FILL OUT THE APPLICATION.

I ACTUALLY THINK IF YOU WANT TO GO YOUR OWN ROUTE VERSUS LEVERAGING THE BOARD THAT'S JUST IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT.

>> MOST LIKELY IF THEY GO THROUGH THEIR OWN ROUTE THEY'RE NOT COMING TO THIS MEETING WHATSOEVER.

AND THE ONLY -- IF THEY'RE GOING OUT AND PAYING FOR IT THEMSELVES AND PUTTING IT ON THEIR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY THEN IF ANYTHING, JUST THEY WOULD COME TO THE COMMISSIONERS TO STAY -- THERE'S A MARKER OF DISTINCTION HERE AND WE WOULD BE COMPLETELY OUT OF THE LOOP SO I DON'T SEE HOW IT'S RELEVANT TO BE ON THAT

FLOWCHART. >> RIGHT.

OKAY. YEAH. >> LOOKING OVER THE DRAFT, IT SEEMS THAT THE MAIN ELEMENTS OF THE PROCESS ARE IN THERE BUT.

>> BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS ESSENTIAL TO MENTION SOMEHOW IS THAT WHOEVER PROPOSES IT AND BRINGS IT TO NEAR COMPLETION HAS THE OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE MARKER IS FACTUALLY VERIFIED OR DOCUMENTED.

WE'VE HAD SO MANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WHEN WE THOUGHT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE WORKING IT KNEW THE FACTS BUT SOMETIMES THEY WERE OFF AND THAT'S -- IT'S A REAL -- YOU KNOW, IT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT AND SO FORTH IF THAT HAPPENS. SO SOMEWHERE IN HERE WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE OBLIGATION TO RESEARCH AND VERIFY ANYTHING THAT'S FACTUALLY DECLARED IN THE MARKER IS ONE OF THE BURDENS OF GETTING THE MARKER DONE.

>> AND SPELL CHECK AS WELL? >> WELL, I THINK IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS THE WAY -- I THINK YOU AND I PROBABLY ARE INDUSTRIES IN THE PRIVATE WORLD WHERE THESE DOCUMENTS ARE A LITTLE MORE COMMON. I DON'T THINK THIS WAS MEANT TO BE A PUBLIC FACING DOCUMENT. THE FLOWCHART IS NOT WHAT WE WOULD THROW UP ON THE WEBSITE FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT.

WE WOULD PUT A BRIEF EXPLANATION AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND THIS IS FOR US TO UNDERSTAND INTERNALLY.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S PUBLIC BECAUSE IT'S -- THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT BUS WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO THROW THIS ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE THIS IS MORE OF A PROCESS DOCUMENT, AN INTERNAL WORKING DOCUMENT IN HOW DO WE AS A BOARD WORK --

>> I THINK -- I MEAN, WHEN YOU SAY I GUESS WHEN YOU SAY TIDY IT UP, CAN WE BE -- IF YOU COULD BE SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT IS JUST A

PROCESS FLOW. >> AS LONG AS WE'RE GOING TO TWEAK IT SOME. FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE THIRD OR THIRD ROW WHICH IS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, OR AT LEAST THE BOARD

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WHO IS VOTING? >> THE BOARD.

>> OKAY. BUT THEN FROM THERE IT SAYS APPROVED AND THEN IT SAYS IDENTIFY BOARD MEMBER TO LEAD THE PROJECT.

>> CORRECT. IF THE BOARD APPROVES --

>> SHOULDN'T SOMEONE BE LEADING THE PROJECT BEFORE IT'S VOTED

ON? >> YEAH.

>> OKAY. >> VOTING THAT YOU WANT TO TRY

TO DO IT. >> AM I WRONG ON THAT?

THAT'S MY ASSUMPTION. >> YOU'RE TAKING ON THE PROJECT.

WHICH I UNDERSTAND. >> FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE SLIM WHITMAN MARKER, I AM THE LEAD ON THAT PROJECT.

SO WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT FACT CHECKING ALSO THAT'S GOING TO FALL ON ME AND THEN CONNIE THOMAS AND THE OTHER LADY WHOSE NAME I ALWAYS FORGET WHO WAS HERE TALKING TO US ABOUT IT, THAT WILL BE ON ME TO MAKE SURE ALL THE DUCKS ARE IN A ROW AS THE PERSON WHO SHORT OF IS SPEARHEADING THAT FROM THE

BOARD. >> THAT'S YOUR FIRST PROCESS BOX

IN YOUR PROJECT LEAD. >> RIGHT.

SO AND WHAT THIS DOES I THINK -- >> IT IS SOMETHING YOU FOLLOW.

IT'S JUST NOT I GUESS A LEGAL DOCUMENT IS WHAT YOU WOULD SAY BUT IT IS SOMETHING EVERYBODY WOULD FOLLOW.

>> YEAH. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO ATE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS LIKE DIRECTIONS TO WALMART. YOU CAN'T SKIP A STEP AND STILL

GET THERE. >> AND WE DO THAT AS STAFF WHEN WE SEE ANOTHER APPLICATION NEEDS ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION

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>> WOULD WE ALSO BE USING THIS PROCESS FOR NOMINATIONS FOR THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTER AND FOR CLAY COUNTY HISTORIC SITES?

>> WE WOULD COME UP WITH DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE AND THEY'VE NOT BEEN CREATED TO DATE BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN WORK SMALL STEPS BUT WE'LL -- WE CAN GET THERE AND CREATE THIS AS WELL.

>> SO ARE THERE ANY MATERIAL CHANGES THAT WE WANT TO SEE JUST AFTER LOOKING AT IT FOR THE FIRST TIME?

>> FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE SECOND PHASE WHICH IS THE COUNTY STAFF'S INPUT WAS APPARENTLY -- WHICH APPARENTLY IS DESIGNED FOR ANYTHING THAT THE BOARD DOES IN TINT THAT THEY REJECT IT, THEN THEY EXPLAIN TO THE APPLICANT WELL MAYBE THEY DO OR DON'T.

THEY EXPLAIN TO THE APPLICANT IT'S REJECTED AND HOPEFULLY WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO POSSIBLY CURE IT BUT THEN THERE'S A LINE GOING DOWN INTO THE BOARD'S AREA. WHICH REPEATS THE WORD REJECTED AND THE LINE CONTINUES TO THE BOX THAT SAYS FOR THE BOARD

REVIEW APPLICATION AND VOTE. >> THAT'S COMING OUT.

SORRY. FROM A PROSPER SUSPECTIVE, IT'S THE SWIM LANE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD SO IT'S COMING OUT OF THE BOX REVIEW APPLICATION AND VOTE AND IT'S THE REJECTED LINE SO IT'S GOING UP SO IF THE BOARD WERE TO REJECT IT AND VOTE IT DOWN, IT WOULD GO BACK UP TO THE COUNTY STAFF NOTIFYING THE -- SEE WHERE THAT ARROW GOES TO THE RIGHT.

>> WELL -- >> YEAH.

SO IF YOU FOLLOW UP FROM REVIEW APPLICATION AND VOTE, IF IT'S REJECTED AT THAT POINT OR VOTED DOWN, IT WOULD GO BACK TO THE BOX OF NOTIFY THE APPLICANT THAT THEIR APPLICATION WAS REJECTED.

>> YEAH. MAYBE STICK A LITTLE ARROW IN THERE OR SOMETHING.

>> OKAY.

IT GOES BACK UP TO THAT ARROW. >> IT WASN'T CLEAR.

>> OKAY. LOOKED LIKE WE COULD GIVE THEM A SECOND BITE OF THE APPLE EVEN THOUGH THE COMMISSIONERS HAD SAID NO.

#. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO -- RIGHT.

SO I THINK LIKE I SAID I THINK IT'S -- IT GIVES US A PROCESS THAT WILL FIT MOST CASES. WE JUST TELL SOMEONE TO APPLY.

COUNTY STAFF LOOKS AT IT BASED ON THEIR EXPERTISE AND THEY SAY WHETHER IT WOULD BE YES OR NO TO THEM.

BUT SOMEONE COULD COME PLEAD THEIR CASE AGAIN AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

WE WOULD HEAR SOMEBODY OUT, AT LEAST I WOULD.

>> YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY AT THE END IS THERE AN APPEALS CROSS. I THINK RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE CONVERSATION I WANTED. SOMETHING TO REACT TO AND GET FEEDBACK FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE AND SEE WHERE WE LAND AND THERE'S ALWAYS CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT.

LESSONS LEARNED. ONCE WE GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND

APPLICATION. >> A PROCESS LIKE THIS IN MY OPINION MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON THAT DOESN'T KNOW

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IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THEM TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT WHEREAS RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW WHAT WAS THE LADY'S NAME THAT CAME AT THE LAST MEETING? MARY. SHE'S IN THE COUNTY AND KNOWS ABOUT THIS STUFF SO SHE KNEW WHAT THEY SHE NEEDED TO DO BUT SOMEONE ELSE MAY NOT. IT GIVES US STRUCTURE TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WITHOUT GETTING INTO WHERE IF FOR SOME REASON THEIR INITIA APPLICATION IS REJECTED THAT THEY COULD NOT JUST COME AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FOR THREE MINUTES OR WHATEVER. LIKE AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

THOSE ARE ALL PRAISES OF THIS. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THOSE REASONS. I THINK THOSE ARE ALL GOOD

THINGS. >> DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY -- IS THAT SOMETHING

THAT WE NEED TO DO? >> FOR THIS?

>> UH-HUH. >> FOR EXAMPLE, THE NESHGS STEP FOR MARY WOULD BE TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S HOW WE WOULD LEVERAGE IT.

>> OKAY. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS? ARE WE GOING TO DO A MOTION? I'M SORRY, I HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY. IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE ON THE WEBSITE DO WE NEED TO -- HOW DO WE GET THAT DONE? DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT MEETING? I DON'T KNOW WHO RUNS IT.

>> SO I KIND OF AGREE THAT I THINK THE FLOWCHART PROCESS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT TOO COMPLICATED BUT IF WE WERE TO DESCRIBE IT WITH WORDS WHAT THE PROCESS IS, WE HAVE A HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WEBSITE THAT DESCRIBES YOUR BOARD.

NOT NECESSARILY HAD THE MISSION AS IT SHOULD BE DESCRIBED RIGHT NOW BUT WE'LL IMPROVE THAT. AND WE'LL PUT IT ON THERE IN WORDS SO THAT IT IS ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE AND THEY CAN UNDERSTAND IT. NOT A FLOWCHART.

THERE WILL BE A LINK TO THE APPLICATION.

>> DO WE AS A BOARD NEED TO DO ANYTHING TO -- OR IS THAT --

>> NO. STAFF WILL DO THAT.

>> THAT WAS ME OFFERING TO HELP LIKE IF THERE'S -- HELP WITH WORDING. LIKE HOW TO DISTILL IT DOWN.

JUST LET ME KNOW. >> ANY TIME YOU SEE WORDING ON OUR WEBSITE IF YOU THINK THERE'S WORDING THAT WOULD BE BETTER ON OUR WEBSITE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD OR SOMETHING

LET US KNOW. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.

I WASN'T CRITICIZING CURRENT WORDING.

I JUST KNOW IT'S HARD TO DISTILL A THING THAT LOOKS COMPLICATED INTO A SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, ANYWAY, IF ANY HELP IS NEEDED, I'M HAPPY

TO HELP. >>

>> YEAH.

>> SO I THINK FOR NEXT STEPS FOR THAT TOOL SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD SUGGEST ONE OF US GOES THROUGH AND GETS IF, LIKE, THE LINKS FOR THE APPLICATION AND JUST LINKS IT YOU TO THE STEPS YOU'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AND JUST SUBMIT APPLICATION SO WHERE DO WE FIND THE APPLICATION AND THAT KIND OF THING.

ANYWHERE THAT THERE'S PAPERWORK THAT THEY NEED TO DO.

>> DO YOU NEED ME TO SUPPORT THAT?

>> >> YOU CAN.

>> STAFF WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THAT IF I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE'LL -- THE APPLICATION IS IN ADOBE FORM THAT CAN BE FILLED OUT AND WE'LL JUST PUT A LINK ONCE WE HAVE THE VERBIAGE DESCRIBING THE PROCESS AND PROBABLY A LINK TO THE STATE MARKER SO THAT THAT CAN BE ACCESSED AND UNDERSTOOD AND THEN WE WOULD PUT OUR PROCESS AND OUR APPLICATION, STAFF'S CONTACT INFORMATION IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS. THINGS LIKE THAT.

>> AS IT'D STANDS NOW, DO WE -- IT STANDS NOW DO WE HAVE ADVICE UP ON THE WEBSITE ABOUT HOW PEOPLE CAN INITIATE A MARKER

REQUEST? >> NO.

THERE'S NO INFORMATION. >> OKAY. SO IF WE DO AS YOU JUST EXPLAINED, THEY DO HAVE -- THERE ARE TWO TRACKS BY WHICH THEY COULD TRY TO DO THAT. ONE IS TO GO THROUGH THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE BOARD. AND ONE IS TO PRIVATELY FILE IT WITH THE STATE. IN THAT CASE, I THINK WE SHOULD

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YOU KNOW. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

>> ALONG WITH THE APPLICATION SAYING THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU CAN DO THIS. WE'LL -- THE COMMISSIONERS, STAFF, AND THE BOARD ARE WILLING TO HELP.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO IT YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. SO THEY WOULD HAVE SOME IDEA HOW THEY MIGHT BEGIN. I GUESS.

>> WELL, THE INTENT OF THIS WAS IF YOU CHOOSE TO LEVERAGE THE BOARD SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BEGINNING.

THAT NEEDS TO BE THE PREAMBLE FOR THIS LINK TO THE APPLICATION IF YOU CHOOSE TO LEVERAGE THE BOARD THIS IS THE ROUTE YOU

WOULD GO. >> SO LONG AS IT'S SOMEWHERE

THERE THAT THEY KNOW. >> YEAH.

AGREED.

>> SO THE ONE THING WE VOTE ON IF THE BOARD IS INVOLVED IS MONEY. SO WHERE ON THIS PROCESS IS THE MONEY ACTUALLY ALLOCATED? IS THAT PART OF THE REVIEW -- WHERE IS THAT?

>> IT WOULD BE PART OF THE -- I THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE REVIEW APPLICATION AND VOTE BUT I ALSO KNOW FROM -- WE WOULD BE -- WHEN WE PREPARE THE STATE APPLICATION AND SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIAL ONCE WE GET THAT FAR, IT'S PROBABLY MORE AROUND THE TIMING RIGHT OF WHAT FISCAL YEAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SOMETHING ABOUT REVIEW APPLICATION INCLUDING CURRENT STATE OF FUNDING FOR THE BOARD AND BASED ON THAT PRIORITIZE AND

VOTE. >> OKAY. ONE OTHER THING WITH REGARD TO THAT, AT WHAT POINT AT WHAT POINT DO WE DISCUSS THE PAYMENT OF THE MARKER? IN OTHER WORDS, OCTOBER 1ST, DO WE CARRY ALL OF OUR FUNDS FORWARD OR STARTED FROM SCRATCH

AGAIN? >> START FROM RAP, OCTOBER 1ST.

>> OKAY. SO WE HAVE WILL OCTOBER 1ST TO USE THE MONEY

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IT'S PAID FOR WHEN IT'S RECEIVED.

>> OKAY. NOW WHAT IF IT TAKES LONGER TO RECEIVE IT THAN

OCTOBER 1ST? >> THAT'S THE SITUATION WE'RE IN WITH THE AUGUSTA SAVAGE BECAUSE THE PURCHASE ORDER WAS ISSUED LAST FISCAL YEAR WHEN IT WAS ORDERED BACK IN JULY AND OF COURSE IT WAS JUST RECEIVED IN MARCH AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING IT OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN STILL MOVE THE FUNDS FORWARD FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE IT WAS ORDERED LAST YEAR BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT SURE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO. WE'RE HOPING WE CAN.

>> OKAY. NEXT MEETINGLY HAVE -- TO GETTING ALL THE NECESSARY STUFF READY TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION BUT LIKE WE'VE SAID BEFORE ONCE THE APPLICATION DOS TO TALLEDEGA, SO WE SUBMITTED NIT JULY AND I BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE MARKER IN SEPTEMBER OR EARLY OCTOBER. THAT'S HOW QUICK --

>> SO THE APPROVAL ISN'T NECESSARILY YEARS.

>> NO. >> I GUESS I MISHEARD.

I THOUGHT SOMEONE SAY IT TOOK YEARS TO GET IT ON.

>> I'M SORRY. THE BOARD.

AND YOU AND CONNIE ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH THE TEXT OF THE

MARKER? >> YEAH AND I ASSUME CONNIE IS ABLE TO HELP WITH ALL THE OTHER NEEDED STUFF FOR THE ACTUAL APPLICATION TOO. I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS LONG AS I GUESS THE BOARD IS STILL OKAY WITH IT.

>> OKAY. ONE OTHER PARTY YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH CHECKING OUT THE TEXT WOULD BE THE BEAGLES.

>> THAT'S WHO CONNIE HAS BEEN -- SHE WAS IN CONTACT WITH THE

WHITMAN FAMILY. >> JUST MAKING SURE.

>> GOOD CALL OUT BUT CONNIE HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE WHITMAN FAMILY AND I DON'T KNOW THE FULL DETAILS BUT THEY WERE INVOLVED IN THE IDEA OF PUTTING A MARKER UP.

I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO HELP WITH IT.

>> SO IT'S GOING TO BE ON THEIR PROPERTY AT THE BEGINNING OF

THEIR DRIVEWAY. >> YES.

YES. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

>> FOR CLARITY SHOULD WE ADD THE ORDER PO AND THE BOX ABOUT THE SUPPLEMENTAL MATERIAL OR IS THAT -- COULD IT HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. OK

[1.  Officer Nomination]

>> SO ARTICLE 12 WHICH IS WHAT GUIDES YOUR PROCEDURES STATES THAT YOU'RE TO FORM A NOMINATING COMMITTEE IN APRIL TO COME UP WITH NOMINATIONS FOR YOUR NEW CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FULL NOMINATE LING COMMITTEE, FORM A COMMITTEE TO FORM YOUR NOMINATION SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS YOU ALL SEND YOUR NOMINATIONS TO ME VIA EMAIL. I WILL COME BACK TO YOU AT THE MAY MEETING WITH YOUR LIST OF NOMINATIONS.

YOU WILL KNOW WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE THAT HAVE BEEN NOMINATED FOR

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WHO WILL START TECHNICALLY THE JULY MEETING WHICH WE DON'T HAVE SO THEIR FIRST MEETING WILL BE AUGUST.

THE RULES ARE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE GREATER THAN ONE YEAR LEFT IN YOUR TERM. TERMS TEND TO ROLL OVER BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FULL YEAR LEFT YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE AND IF YOU'VE BEEN CHAIR TWICE WHICH RANDY I'M SORRY YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT CHAIR BUT YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE CHAIR NEXT BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN GO YEARS IN A ROW.

AND JERRY I BELIEVE YOU'RE THE ONLY CANNED DEATH RIGHT NOW THAT DOESN'T HAVE A FULL YEAR TERM LEFT.

SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ELIGIBLE EITHER FOR VICE CHAIR AT THIS

POINT BUT -- >>

>> I BELIEVE YOU CAN POSSIBLY ATTEND -- COME BACK AS A MEMBER.

YOU CAN SELF-NOMINATE. NOMINATE SOMEONE ELSE.

IF YOU SEND ME EMAILS, NOT GROUP EMAILS, PLEASE.

NO. NO.

WE ARE ALL LEARNING THIS AND IN FACT NEXT MEETING I HOPE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON SHINE LAW. YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT EVERY YEAR SO I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT TO YOU

NEXT MEETING. >> OKAY. NOW YOU JUST SAID TO SEND A GROUP EMAIL OR INDIVIDUAL EMAIL.

>> INDIVIDUAL EMAIL. NO GROUP EMAILS, PLEASE.

NO REPLY ALL.

>> JUST REPLY. >> OKAY.

>> IS IT SOMETHING WE'RE VOTING ON?

>> GOTCHA. OKAY. I THOUGHT THE SUNSHINE LAW DICTATED THAT EVERYBODY MUST BE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND BEING DISCUSSED AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> NO TWO MEMBERS CAN INTERACT THROUGH EMAIL SO I CAN SEND AN EMAIL OUT TO ALL OF YOU BUT PLEASE DON'T REPLY ALL AND PLEASE -- THERE CAN'T BE ANY CONVERSATIONS.

>> OKAY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL.

[Certificates of Approval]

ANYBODY HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? >> OKAY. SO --

>> YOU SPEAK DURING BOARD MEMBER'S COMMENTS WHICH NEXT.

>> THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY FROM THE PUBLIC HERE TO SPEAK SO YOU'RE --

>> RIGHT. SO RANDY THE CHAIR NEEDS TO SAY MOVING TO BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS AND THEN WEAL JUST GO DOWN THE

LINE. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

[Board Member's Comments]

AND YOU SAY YOU HAVE -- >> YES.

I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE DEE STONE HEIGHTS HERITAGE COMMISSION IS HAVING A TOUR OF HISTORIC HOMES.

IF YOU CAN JUST PASS THESE DOWN. EXCUSE ME.

SATURDAY MAY 7TH WHICH IS THE WEEKEND BEFORE -- I MEAN IT'S THE DAY BEFORE MOTHER'S DAY. AND WE ARE MEETING AT THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS PAVILION. IT'S GOING TO BE JUST A WALKING TOUR. AND WE WILL BE HANDING OUT TOUR OF HOMES IN KEYSTONE ALL HOMES THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 20S.

AND WE'LL JUST BE PASSING THESE OUT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ROSES FOR ALL THE MOTHERS.

SOME REFRESHMENTS. AND HOPEFULLY GETTING RECOGNITION TO THE PUBLIC IN KEYSTONE AND THE WHOLE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE AMAZING HOMES THERE THAT WE CAN START TO GET RECOGNITION FOR. WE DO HAVE AT THIS TIME ABOUT 20 HOMES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PLAQUED.

WE DON'T HAVE A TRUE HISTORIC DISTRICT BUT AS A COMMISSION, WE HAVE HISTORIC COMMISSION, THEY HAVE GONE IN AND PLAQUED SOME OF

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>> WHAT'S THE ADDRESS OF THE STREET ADDRESS OF THE PAVILION?

>> THE STREET ADDRESS OF THE PAVILION, I DO NOT KNOW BUT IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS CITY HALL.

AND THAT ADDRESS IS NOT IN MY PHONE.

THANK YOU. IT'S 555 SOUTH LAWRENCE.

>> I HAVE ONE THING IF NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO GO.

SO I SAW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A PETTY JEALOUSY COMMENT I'M GOING TO BRING UP. THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION HAS COUNTY EMAIL. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW WE GET COUNTY EMAIL BECAUSE I PREFER NOT TO HAVE ANY OF THIS STUFF COMING TO MY EMAILS. MY PERSONAL EMAIL.

SO I DON'T KNOW DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS?

>> I PULLED YOUR -- HAD YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION OFF OF THE WEBSITE SO THAT'S NO LONGER ON THERE.

>> NO. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GIVE SOMEONE AN ACCOUNT IF THEY HAVE A QUESTION, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT TO TALK TO OBVIOUSLY NOT BOARD MEMBERS.

>> DEPARTMENT ABOUT GETTING EMAILS. I KNOW THE PLANNING COMMISSON HAS EMAILS. I'M NOT SURE BUT I CAN CHECK WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY WOULD --

>> I FIGURE IT CAN'T HURT TO ASK.

WORST THEY CAN SAY IS NO.

>> BETH, I HAVE A QUESTION. THE PROCESS FOR DESIGNATING AN HISTORIC DISTRICT, IS THAT REQUIRING ANY FUNDING OR IS THAT JUST FOR THE SIGN SAYING THIS IS AN HISTORIC DISTRICT?

>> AND THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS AN HISTORIC DISTRICT OR ARE YOU SAYING JUST

A -- >> SAY SOMEBODY WANTED TO MAKE RIVER ROAD AN HISTORIC DISTRICT. NOT ENCOMPASSING ANYBODY'S ACTUALLY PHYSICAL PROPERTY BUT SAYING THIS IS THE HISTORIC RIVER ROAD. WOULD THAT REQUIRE ANY FUNDING OR WOULD THAT REQUIRE ANY SPECIAL PROCEDURES OR ANYTHING?

>> IT WOULD REQUIRE SOME RESEARCH I'M GOING TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

>> OKAY. >> I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, TALLEDEGA HAS SCENE IT HIGHWAYS I BELIEVE AND WE WOULD NEED TO DETERMINE WHAT MADE THAT ROAD SPECIAL.

WAS IT HISTORIC FOR A CERTAIN REASON AND COULD IT BE DESIGNATED COUNTY LEVEL OR -- I WOULD NEED TO RESEARCH THAT.

>> OKAY. ONE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THIS OR NOT BUT WE HAVE A GROUP OF TRIBAL INDIANS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE A POW WOW ON THE 14TH, 15TH, AND 16TH OVER ON, GOSH, UM -- MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE AND THERE'S A PARK OVER THERE.

IT'S A THREE-DAY POW WOW. I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WAS INQUIRING ABOUT THE GROUP OF INDIANS THAT CAME TO THE RAILROAD FESTIVAL AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING AND WANTED TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THAT AND I GOT AHOLD OF THE LEADER OF THAT GROUP AND THEY HAVE AN INTERCULTURAL GROUP OF NATIVE AMERICANS, INDIANS.

AND IT'S -- THEY ENCOMPASS SEVERAL DIFFERENT TRIBES INCLUDING THE SEMINOLES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

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IT'S A FLYER AND EVERYTHING. SO PEOPLE CAN DOWNLOAD IT AND SEE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE AND EVERYTHING ELSE BUT I JUST THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY INTERESTING ESPECIALLY ALL THE -- YOU KNOW, THE OUTAT THIS TIMES AND THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO BE WEARING AND THE TRIBAL DANCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT IT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BOARD

MEMBER COMMENTS? >> YEAH.

SOMEHOW THIS GOT PAST ME. WHAT IS THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL TOPIC THAT WAS HERE ON THE AGENDA? I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. BEFORE THE ITEM FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, IT WAS CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL.

>> CORRECT. AND WE DID ADDRESS THAT.

>> I GUESS I DIDN'T HEAR IT. >> WE DISCUSSED IT.

WE SAID BASICALLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY CERTIFICATES OF APPROVAL SO

WE DIDN'T GO TOO DEEP INTO IT. >> IF WE HAD THEM, WHAT ARE

THEY? >> SO AT IF LAST MEETING WE HAD A POWERPOINT DESCRIBING THE DUTIES OF THIS BOARD.

ONE DUTY IS TO REVIEW APPLICATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS OR DEMOLITION OR VARIOUS CHANGES TO A HISTORIC DESIGNATED SITE BY THE BOARD. WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO SITES THAT ARE DESIGNATED, HISTORIC BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

BUT YOUR ROLE AS A HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD IS TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER SITES TO BE DESIGNATED AND THEN ONCE DESIGNATED, IF THE OWNER CHOSE TO MAKE AN IMPROVEMENT, CHANGE THAT PROPERTY, YOU WOULD REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE CHANGES.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNTY -- OUR ORDINANCE CALLS IT A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL. I'VE SEEN A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS IN OTHER COUNTIES BUT THAT'S WHAT WE CALL IT. CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS?

>> NO. THEN I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN.

I MAKE THE MOTION WE ADJOURN. DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> I SECOND. >> WE HAVE THREE SECONDS.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED SAY NAY. OKAY. THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.