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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:08]

>>> OKAY, WILL YOU STAND FOR THE INVOCATION BY COMMISSIONER

BURKE. >> THANK YOU LORD FOR THIS DAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US HERE TO OUR WONDERFUL AND BEAUTIFUL COUNTY. THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOINED US TODAY AND THOSE ONLINE.

HELP US TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR OUR STAFF THAT HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO DO THAT.

PLEASE BE WITH OUR MILITARY AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE GRIEVING AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US AND BLESSED US WITH IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> OUR VETERAN LED PLEDGE WILL BE BY SERGEANT JOHNNIE HUNT HE SERVED IN THE ARMY AND CURRENTLY SERVES ITS COMMUNITY BY VOLUNTEERING AT THE CHILDREN'S MINISTRY AT FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH

OF JACKSONVILLE. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> I WOULD ASK DO YOU WANT TO

SAY SOME WORDS? >> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I AM REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE KINDNESS YOU HAVE SHOWN AND I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE OPENING WITH A PRAYER. I DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS WELCOMING. I EMBRACE THAT.

I WOULD SAY GO WITH GOD THE ONLY WAY PEOPLE WILL KNOW GOD IS REAL IS FOR US TO SHOW KINDNESS. ALL IT TAKES IS FOR US TO HAVE A WELCOME PEOPLE NEED TO SEE THERE IS KINDNESS STILL OUT THERE SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU GUYS.

.

>> OKAY WE WILL CALL THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING FOR FEBRUARY 22 TO ORDER AT 4:0. AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL

[PET ADOPTIONS]

OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

FIRST UP, PET ADOPTIONS. >> OKAY OUR FIRST DOG TONIGHT IS A SPAYED FEMALE MIXED BREED, 2-YEARS-OLD AND WEIGHS 49 POUNDS. SHE'S A FUN-LOVING HIGH ENERGY GIRL. DOG FRIENDLY AND LOVES PEOPLE BUT THEY BEAT TO HIGH-ENERGY FOR YOUNG CHILDREN.

SHE IS UP-TO-DATE ON HER AGE APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. NEXT WE HAVE OKAY NEUTERED MALE MIXED BREED, 3-YEARS-OLD AND WEIGHS 54 POUNDS.

HE HAS SUCH A SWEET BOY BUT NO ONE HAS GIVEN HIM A CHANCE TO SHOW WHAT A GREAT COMPANION HE CAN BE.

HE IS DOG FRIENDLY, WHILE SWELLING ALISHA NO SPACE GOOD -- BASIC COMMANDS. ... PLAY FETCH BECAUSE HE HAS A LOT OF ENERGY. HE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HIS AGE APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP.

THE FIRST CAT IS SELMA. SPAYED FEMALE 4-YEARS-OLD.

SELMA IS A SHY GIRL THAT WOULD DO BEST IN A QUIET HOME.

SELMA HAS AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP.

IS A FEMALE. THE NEXT IS LITTLE MAMA, SPAYED FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR ONE YEAR END NINE MONTHS.

LITTLE MAMA IS A SWEET, INQUISITIVE GIRL THAT WOULD LOVE HOME TO CALL HER OWN. SHE WANTS A PLACE THAT WOULD ALLOW HER TO GO OUT ON THE SCREENED IN PORCH TO WATCH WORLD. SHE IS UP-TO-DATE ON HER AGE-APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP.

LASTLY IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING E-MAIL US AT CLAY COUNTY.GOV OR YOU CAN CALL US AT 904-269-6342.

CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES OFFER COMMUNITY RABIES AND MICROCHIP CLINIC ON THE FIRST 3:00 P.M. UNTIL 5:00 P.M.

FINALLY IF YOU WANT TO JOIN OUR KIN GROUP WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTER'S. IF INTERESTED CONTACT US AT CLAY

[1.  Black History Month]

FOSTERS A CLAY COUNTY GOVERNMENT GUM.COM.

THAT COMPLETES OUR ANIMALS. >> COMMISSIONERS WILL YOU JOIN ME UPFRONT FOR PROCLAMATIONS PLEASE.

[00:05:10]

>> WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN HONOR OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH WE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS AFRICANAMERICAN HAVE MADE IN THE HISTORY OF OUR GREAT NATION. WITH US TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS LOCAL HISTORIAN MR. JACKSON. ARE YOU HERE? WHO CURRENTLY SERVES FOR THE COMMUNITY BY RUNNING THE HILLTOP HERITAGE MUSEUM AND MARRING YOUNG WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, COMMAND MASTER CHIEF.

>> ELLIS, SORRY ABOUT THAT, I AM IN ARMY MODE HERE.

WILL RETIRED AFTER OR THAN 30 YEARS OF SERVICE AND AFTER MANY METALS AND CAMPAIGN AWARDS DURING HIS CAREER.

MACK, HOW MANY STRIPES IS THAT, IS THAT FOUR TIMES EIGHT.

>> IT IS CERTAINLY AN HONOR TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION.

I WILL GO FORWARD. HARVARD TRAINED WOODSON FOUNDER OF THE ASSOCIATION OF STUDY OF NEGROLIFE AND HISTORY INITIATED NEGRO HISTORY WEEK IN 1926. IT GREW INTO BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN 1976. WHEREAS THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY'S FEDERALLY DESIGNATED AS A TIME FOR AMERICANS RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF BLACK AMERICANS IN THE ARMED FORCES, ARCHITECTURE, ARTS, BUSINESS, CIVIL RIGHTS, ECONOMICS, EDUCATION, ENTERTAINMENT, HISTORY, LAW, LITERATURE, MUSIC, POLITICS, SCIENCE AND SPORTS, AND AVIATION. I WILL MENTION THAT IN A LITTLE WHILE HERE. WHEREAS AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT MILITARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DATING BACK TO THE BIRTH OF OUR NATION AND THE FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE FROM GREAT BRITAIN AND EVERY WAR FOUGHT BY AND WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, AFRICAN-AMERICANS PARTICIPATED INCLUDING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR, THE WORKSHEET -- THE WAR OF 1812, THE MEXICAN-AMERICAN WAR, THE SPANISH-AMERICAN WAR, WORLD WAR I, WORLD WAR II, THE KOREAN WAR, THE VIETNAM WAR, THE GULF WAR, AND THE WAR IN AFGHANISTAN AND IN THE WAR IN IRAQ AND WHEREAS SIGNIFICANT TOUCH ABUSES HAVE BEEN MADE BY SOME OF CLAY COUNTY'S FAVORITE SONS AND DAUGHTERS INCLUDING DR. CECELIA FLEMING WHO GREW UP ON THE PLANTATION BECAME THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN DOCTOR SAID AS A MISSIONARY TO AFRICA. AGUSTA SAVAGE WHO GREW UP AND BRING COLD SPRINGS AND BECAME ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL ARTISTS DURING THE HARLEM RENAISSANCE.

AHMAD JACKSON WHO GREW UP IN THE HILLTOP COMMUNITY SOUTH OF MIDDLEBURG AND ANNEXED 69 BECAME A TEACHER AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN GREEN COVE SPRINGS WHICH WAS ONE OF THE FIRST INTEGRATED CLASSROOMS AND CLAY COUNTY.

AND COMMAND MASTER CHIEF. >> ELLIS U.S. NAVY RETIRED AND SERVED HIS COUNTRY FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS AND MADE HISTORY AS THE FIRST NON- SUBMARINER AND PERMANENT SENIOR CHIEF APPOINTED TO FILL THE TWO STAR FLAG LEVEL COMMAND MASTER CHIEF POSITION WITH THE FLEET SUMMARY FOR SPIRIT OF NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE BOARD OF CLAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 20, 2022 IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH IN CLAY COUNTY AND URGE ALL RESIDENTS TO LEARN ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANT AND CONTRIBUTIONS MADE BY AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN OUR COUNTRY AND THE HISTORY OF SHAPING OUR NATURE AND CULTURE THAT IS DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS FEBRUARY DAY OF 2022.

DO I HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THE FAVORITE AYE, IT IS UNANIMOUS.

WE NOW DECLARE BLACK HISTORY MONTH FEBRUARY 2022 IN CLAY COUNTY. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

.

PEAK I BROUGHT UP AVIATION BECAUSE A FRIEND OF MINE GENERAL MCKEE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN, HE WAS A TUSKEGEE AIRMEN IN WORLD WAR II AND HE JUST PASSED AWAY HE WAS 101-YEARS-OLD.

THEY HONORED HIM WITH A FEW FLIGHTS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

SO ANYWAY, I WANTED TO HONOR HIM TONIGHT.

[00:10:03]

WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST? >> THANK YOU.

I MUST SAY, IT IS A GREAT PLEASURE TO BE BACK HERE TONIGHT , ALTHOUGH IN A DIFFERENT POSITION FROM WHAT I AM USUALLY HERE IN. I HAVE BEEN COMING BACK AND FORTH TO THE COMMISSIONERS OFFICE FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

I AM A NATIVE DAUGHTR OF CLAY COUNTY.

SUNDAY WILL BE 80 YEARS AGO I WAS BORN ACROSS THE CREEK IN MILBERG. ACROSS BLACK CREEK.

THEN, IN 1944, MY DAD BUILT OUR HOUSE AND WE MOVED UP ON THE HILL. WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1944 AND I PROMISED MY DAD BEFORE HE DIED, THAT ONE DAY I AM COMING BACK HERE AND I WILL BUILD MY HOUSE, RIGHT BESIDE YOUR HOUSE, AND NOW TODAY MY HOUSES THERE AND THIS HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL 80 YEARS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AT LEAST 21 MORE.

SO, I WILL CHECK YOU OUT THEN BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ON THE ROAD WORKING FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS AND STILL GOING STRONG AND GETTING STRONGER. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR.

>> >> I HAVE NEVER KNOWN A MASTER

CHIEF NOT TO HAVE A LAST WORD. >> ALWAYS THE LAST WORD.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING EVERYTHING YOU SUPPORT INCLUDING THIS MONTH AND EVERY MONTH AFTERWARDS.

IT IS GOOD TO SEE ALL OF THESE IMPORTANT STACKS OF PAPER OUT HERE AND PEOPLE SMILING BEFORE THEY GET DOWN TO BUSINESS SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. .

>> WE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT YOU FROM ONE OF YOUR FORMER

SHIPMATES. >> AS PART OF THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BOARD WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO PRESERVE AND REHABILITATE THE LITTLE BLACK SEGREGATED SCHOOL THAT USED TO BE CALLED MIDDLEBURG COLOR SCHOOL WHICH IS A SCHOOL JACKSON ATTENDED FROM AGE FIVE THROUGH THE NINTH GRADE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING FOR, IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION JUST LET US KNOW.

>> HER MOTHER SAID YOU DO WANT TO COME UP.

HE IS COMING UP. >> A DEAR FRIEND SINCE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BERNARD F. HE WAS THE SECOND STATE SECRETARY, HE MAY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.

BUT HE HAS DONE A LOT. >> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WORDS OF

WISDOM? >> HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

>> I WANT TO PRESENT TWO COPIES OF THE PROCLAMATION.

WANT TO YOU AND WANT TO MASTER CHIEF.

>> I AM GLAD YOU BOTH CAME OUT.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[00:15:12]

>> OKAY THE FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION.

IT IS WITH THE WORKSHOP AND IT IS ON PAGE SIX OF 24.

IT STATES THE COUNTY MANAGER STARTED THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A DOG BREEDER, I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE.

I THINK HE STATED THE PROCESS TO BECOME A DOG BREEDER.

OTHER THAN THAT, AND OF ANYTHING.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND., ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE OPPOSED SAME SIDE, IT

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

CARRIES 5-0. THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENT. FIRST UP WE HAVE PAT LEE, AND THE WAY THIS WORKS, YOU WILL BE GIVEN 3 MINUTES, I KNOW YOU HAVE YOUR HAND OUT YEAR I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HAS IT BUT WE CAN READ IT IN OUR SPARE TIME MAYBE YOU CAN SUMMARIZE A.

WHEN YOU SEE THE RED LIGHT AND IT BEATS THAT MEANS IT IS TIME.

>> I WILL SKIP A LOT OF THIS BOOK BASICALLY THE BACKGROUND, THIS IS A COMMUNITY OF 85 HOMES LOCATED AROUND THIS RUNWAY FROM WHICH WE FLY AND TO MOST PEOPLE THAT MEANS LITTLE AIRPLANES.

CLAY COUNTY IS THE ONLY COUNTY THAT DOES NOT HAVE A MUNICIPAL AIRPORT. THIS IS ONLY ONE OF TWO PRIVATE AIR PARKS OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THE OTHER ONE IS OWNED BY THE SPENCER FAMILY, AND IT IS PRIMITIVE JUST OFF OF MIDDLEBURG.

WE SPENT $145,000 TO RECONDITION THE GRASS RUNWAY.

IN JANUARY WE HAD AN OWNERS MEETING OF ALL OF THE RESIDENCE AND THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT AIRPORT ENCROACHMENT.

THIS IS WHEN THE LAND AROUND THE AIRPORT -- SOME PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE AIRPLANE TRAFFIC AND A GENERAL NUISANCE FROM FLIGHT OPERATIONS TO AND FROM THE AIRPORT.

IT MAY HAVE BEEN THERE DECADES BEFORE BUT THE FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE THERE AND ENCROACHMENT KILLS THE AIRPORT.

FROM THE AIR WE SEE IT HAS RESULTED TO LAND AN INDUSTRIAL USE. WE SEE THIS SOUTH TOWARDS THE AIRPORT. WE ARE NOT HERE TO CONVINCE YOU THAT GROWTH DID NOT HAPPEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE INCENTIVIZE AND EVEN ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE TO COME TO FLORIDA. IT WILL HAPPEN WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. THIS IS WHERE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY KNOW WHAT MAKES THE COUNTY SPECIAL.

WE KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE GROWTH PROCESS.

LOCAL DEVELOPERS AS WELL AS DEVELOPERS FROM OTHER PLACES COME AND SPRINKLE MONEY AROUND AND SOON PRIVATE RESIDENCE AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COMES UP LOOK AT FLEMING ISLAND.

OUR CONCERN IS THE ENCROACHMENT FROM THESE COMMUNITIES WILL ULTIMATELY KILL OUR AIRPORT. WE KNOW WE CAN'T STOP PROGRESS BUT WE KNOW THERE ARE ACRES OF WETLANDS IN THE AREAS THAT MUST BE MITIGATED BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CAN CONTINUE.

WE ARE HERE TO ASK THAT YOU NOT FORGET THE COLLATE CITIZENS FROM THE AIRPARK THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES THAT YOU WORK TO PROVIDE A METHOD FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO MITIGATE THE WETLANDS INTO PROTECTED ANCHORS AROUND THE AREA.

MITIGATION WOULD BE A WIN FOR EVERYONE TO HOMES AND THE APARTMENTS WOULD NOT BE CONSTRUCTED UNDER AIRWAYS AND WE WOULD CONTINUE TO FLY OVER LAND THAT IS NOT ENCUMBERED BY PRIVATE AIR AREAS. FOR SAFETY REASONS PUT THIS

AROUND US. >> ONE LAST SENTENCE?

>> FOR SAFETY REASONS, AND NOISE REASONS PUT THE MITIGATION

AROUND US. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

[00:20:03]

>> HAVE A WHOLE BRANCH AND I KNOW ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS UP THERE, I CAN LOOK INTO THIS. WHAT THEY CAN DO FOR YOU AND US,

THEY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. >> THEY DO.

WE THINK YOU GUYS, COMMISSIONER CONDON YOU HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND COMMISSIONER RENNINGER YOU HAVE A PILOT AND YOU KNOW ABOUT IT FROM THE NAVY. YOU KNOW WHAT ENCROACHMENT CAN

DO IN VIRGINIA BEACH. >> I AM SORT OF A PILOT TOO.

WE DON'T HAVE AN AIRPLANE TO FLY RIGHT NOW.

>> IF YOU DO, COME DOWN AND VISIT US.

I OFFERED COMMISSIONER BURKE TO FLYOVER REGION TO SEE FROM THE AIR OUR CONCERNS. EVEN AFTER YOU GO, ONCE THE INDUSTRY COMES, IT'S FOLLOWED BY APARTMENTS AND WE ARE CONCERNED.

IT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEAR OR FIVE YEARS.

BUT SOONER OR LATER, SOMEONE WILL WANT TO BUILD APARTMENTS NEAR US. WE WANT TO SAY IN FRONT OF THIS SO OUR LITTLE AIRPORT CAN STAY ALIVE.

JOE WILL TALK TO YOU ON WHY YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED IF WE GO

AWAY. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN NEXT UP IS JOE THUNEY I WONDER WHAT YOU WILL TALK ABOUT.

>> A MYSTERY. >> I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS.

MY NAME IS JOE I AM THE PRESIDENT OF TNG ARROW THE COMPANY THAT MANAGES THE AIRPORT.

WE HAVE A SMALL GRASS RUNWAY. WE ARE LOCATED 6 MILES SOUTH OF GREEN COVE. LIKE PAT SAID WE HAVE 85 PROPERTIES AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1982.

I WILL RUNWAY SUPPORT 15 EVENTS PER DAY.

THE RUNWAY IS ORIENTED NORTH AND SOUTH AND IT IS 2600 FEET LONG WITH 600-FOOT ON THE NORTH IN AND SOUTH IN.

TAKE ALMOST EVERY AIRPLANE, I THINK WE WILL HAVE ONE THAT WILL COME IN REAL SOON. BUT ONLY A SINGLE ENGINE WILL BE THERE. THE FLYERS, ON WHICH WE ARE ACTIVE PEOPLE, WE DO FLYOVERS AND MISSING MAN STUFF.

WE DO IT FOR THE COMMUNITY EVENTS IN THE VETERANS DAY THINGS AT THE PARK. WE FLYOVER THAT EVERY YEAR.

WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE EXPERIMENTAL AIRCRAFT ASSOCIATION CHAPTER AND WE DO ANNUAL EAGLES EVENT.

WE DO A LOT OF EVENTS THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT EVENT.

WE TAKE YOUNG KIDS FOR FLIGHTS FOR FREE AND THE REASON WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU TODAY, WE KNOW THERE'S A NEW COMMUNITY COMING TO THE NORTH OF US. THIS WILL BE DIRECTLY IN OUR FLIGHTPATH FOR TAKEOFF AND LANDING.

IT IS ABOUT A MILE AND A HALF IT IS A MILE AND A HALF FROM THE END OF OUR RUNWAY WHICH IS CLOSE.

WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT WHEN SMALL AIRPLANES FLY OVER THEIR HEALTH AT LOW ALTITUDE. WE KIND OF REGULATE THAT A LITTLE BIT. WE KNOW THE PEOPLE IF THERE ARE HOUSES IN THAT MILE NORTH OF US WE WILL FLY OVER HOUSES AT 500 FEET AS WE ARE COMING INTO LAND.

WE KNOW THAT MAKES PEOPLE MAD. WE WILL TRY TO MITIGATE THAT AND WE JUST HAVE TO BE SMART ON WHAT YOU BUILT, YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD YOUR DAYCARE CENTER ON THE TAKEOFF LAND.

WHEN AIRPLANES COME OUT OF THE SKY, THAT IS WHERE THEY WILL FALL. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? >> THANK YOU.

[00:25:09]

WE KNOW WANT TO TALK ABOUT PLANES COMING OUT OF THE SKY THE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

SUN A GOOD SUBJECT HERE. >> EVERYONE THAT HAS COME UP AS

COME DOWN. >> NEXT IS THE CONSENT AGENDA DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO PULL?

>> OF MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED, CARRIES 5-0.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN JUST TO CONFIRM ON THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES IT WAS NUMBER 2-4 THAT THE BOARD VOTED ON AND TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD THAT THEY ARE TAKING THE MINUTES.

WAS THAT CORRECT? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, NUMBER SEVEN ANIMAL

[7.  Animal Ordinances]

ORDINANCES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS T.

NAGLE ANIMAL WORKSHOP WE HAD AT OUR WORKSHOP WE DISCUSSED ANIMAL SERVICE ORDINANCES. BEFORE YOU IS THE DRAFT OF THE ORDINANCES YOU SHOULD HAVE HAD THOSE IN YOUR PACKET.

WE DO HAVE A POWERPOINT TO PUT TOGETHER A LOOK SIMILAR TO THE WORKSHOP WITH A FEW THINGS ADDED.

I CAN GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT IF YOU WOULD LIKE,.

>> I WOULD SAY HIT THE HIGH POINTS AND WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. T WE ARE FOCUSING ON FOUR MAJOR AREAS, THE AGGRESSIVE/DANGEROUS DOG.

HOBBY BREEDERS, PET SHOPS AND CITATIONS.

SO AGGRESSIVE DOG WE CREATED A CLASSIFICATION, THE DEFINITION IS UP THERE THIS IS CALLED THE SEVERE INJURY AND MINOR INJURY TO AN ANIMAL WITHOUT PROVOCATION TWICE WITHIN A ONE-YEAR PERIOD.

IT FOLLOWS THE SAME QUALIFICATION FOR DANGEROUS DOG.

WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION, GIVE THEM THE RIGHT TO HAVE A HEARING, APPEAL IT AND IT GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY IF THEY WANT TO APPEAL IT UP TO A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO.

TAKE DANGEROUS DOG BUSINESS FROM FLORIDA STATUTE IT IS BASICALLY SAYING A DANGEROUS DOG AS ATTACKED OR ENDANGERED OR HAS INFLICTED SEVERE INJURY ON THE HUMAN BEING ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY OR KILLED AN ANIMAL OR HAS BEEN UNPROVOKED CHASTE OR ATTITUDINAL ATTACK. I AM NOT SURE, ABOUT THE STATUTE WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT BUT WE DO HAVE NEW LEVELS FOR DOGS THAT DON'T MEET THAT CRITERIA ARE AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION I THINK THE BOARD HAS ASKED US TO GO IN. WE WOULD PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THIS AND THIS IS ADDING WHERE WE CAN ADD INFORMATION ON DANGEROUS DOGS. WE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN INSURANCE FOR NO LESS THAN $100,000 TO COVER ANYTHING

BECAUSE BY THE DOG. >> SENDING THE DOG TO OBEDIENCE TRAINING THAT WOULD ADDRESS AGGRESSION AND DOCUMENTATION FOR COMPLETION OF THE COURSE REQUIRED THE DOG TO BE MUZZLED WHEN OFF OF THE OWNER'S PROPERTY OR ANY REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS THE DIVISION DETERMINES NECESSARY TO PREVENT FURTHER VIOLATIONS. GET YOUR WORKSHOP YOU ASKED US TO GO OUT AND LOOK FOR THE COST ARE WE PUTTING A REQUIREMENT ON THIS THAT IS NOT ATTAINABLE. $100,000, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THESE FOUR COMPANIES, AND THIS WAS WHAT THEY GAVE US.

I THINK WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS.

>> WE HAD, IN THE DRAFT ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, WE CAME UP WITH WHAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND AS FAR AS THE INSURANCE COVERAGE. AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE ACTUAL PROVIDERS, A COUPLE OF POINTS FOR YOU, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY SPECIALIZE IN THIS INSURANCE.

YOUR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE WE DIDN'T SPEAK TO PROVIDERS THE

[00:30:05]

PROBLEM IS YOUR HOMEOWNERS INSURANE WOULD NOT COVER OFF-SITE WHICH IS USUALLY WHERE THE DOG BITE OCCURS.

FURTHERMORE THEY WOULDN'T COVER MULTIPLE BITES.

WITH THESE INSURANCE COMPANIES, WHAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED IS THAT USUALLY IT IS $50 PER MONTH WOULD BE THE COST OF THE INSURANCE WITH A PREPAYMENT DEPENDING ON THE POLICY OF 150-$300 PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE PROPERTY.

WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED, THE LANGUAGE WE PROVIDED IS BASED ON SOME OF THE SITUATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED THAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCE. IN RUNNING THAT BUY THEM WHAT WE HAVE COME TO LEARN IS THAT THEY WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY COVERAGE FOR THE OWNER OR OWNERS FAMILY. WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND WHAT WE HAVE TO ONLY, IT WOULD BE FOR PERSONS OTHER THAN THE OWNERS FAMILY BUT SPECIFICALLY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT INCLUDED THE SITTER, WALKER OR OTHERS OFF-SITE BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE HAD EXPERIENCES. WE WOULD HAVE TO MODIFY THAT.

ALSO WE PUT WITH NO DEDUCTIBLE. THERE'S ONLY ONE COMPANY THAT WILL PROVIDE IT. USUALLY THE RANGE IS FROM 1500- $2,100. THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE AN ADDED EXPENSE FOR THE OWNER. LASTLY THEY RECOMMENDED WE PUT IN A REQUIREMENT OF 25,000 PER PERSON JUST TOO STRAIGHT WITH 100. SO WE HAVE AN AGGREGATE OF 100

THEN 100 PER PERSON OR INCIDENT. >> HOW LONG WOULD A PERSON HAVE TO GET THE INSURANCE IN PLACE IF THEY DECIDED THEY NEEDED.

>> WE WOULD NOT RELEASE THE TALK BACK TO THEM UNLESS THEY HAD THE

INSURANCE. >> YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION ON

HOW LONG THAT WILL TAKE? >> AS LONG AS THEY MAKE THE PREPAYMENT IT WOULD BE VERY QUICKLY.

AND IT IS BASED ON THE TYPE SO THE RANGES IS BECAUSE OF THE BREED OF THE DOG AND THE SIDES OF THE DOG.

>> AND THE WEIGHT OF THE DOG. >> ONE THING -- I WAS CONCERNED THAT IT COULD TAKE ONE MONTH TO GET --

>> THIS IS WHAT THEY SPECIALIZE IN.

THEY WOULD NOT GIVE THE POLICY UNTIL THEY GOT THE PREPAYMENT.

>> THE FACT THAT THEY EXIST TELL TO OTHER COUNTY GOVERNMENTS HAVE PUT THINGS LIKE THIS IN PLACE. ST. JOHN'S HAS A.

>> I GUESS YOU WOULD SHARE WITH THEM SO THEY WOULD KNOW?

>> WE WOULD NEED TO MODIFY THE LANGUAGE WE HAVE WITH NO DEDUCTIBLE. WE WOULD NEED TO PUT SOME RANGE IN THERE, OF WHAT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH.

>> IF WE DON'T DO THAT, YOU ARE SAYING YOU ONLY HAVE ONE COMPANY TO DO BUSINESS WITH, SO I THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO CHANGE THAT TO

ALLOW A DEDUCTIBLE AS INDICATED. >> WE WANT TO MAKE THIS AS BROAD AS WE CAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT?

>> FOR THE RECORD, I HAVE TWO QUOTES BUT THEY WERE FOR $10,000 PER INDIVIDUAL. IT WAS 400-$600 PER YEAR.

IT IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH THIS. YOU RAISE THE LIMIT TO 100,000 PER INCIDENT, AND YOU WILL INCREASE COSTS AND THAT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH THE CASES WE HAVE DEALT WITH BASED ON THE INJURIES THAT WERE INFLICTED.

>> HOW MANY DO WE HAVE THAT WILL FIT IN THIS CATEGORY?

>> IN DANGEROUS DOG OR -- >> WE ARE DOING 8-10 PER YEAR ON AVERAGE. IF YOU GO WITH THE ST. JOHN COUNTY NUMBERS THEY ARE DOING 100-200 PER YEAR IS WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN AVERAGING BECAUSE YOU% HAVE LOWERED THE BAR SUBSTANTIALLY FROM MOST OF THE STUFF WE DEAL WITH IS A DOG ATTACKING A DOG OR A CAT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT HAS TO BE REPORTED AND WE HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THE INSTANCES.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT SUBSTANTIATED.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOWERING THE BAR FOR AN AGGRESSIVE DOG AND IT IS ONE SEVERE INJURY TO A PERSON OR DOMESTIC ANIMAL.

IT ONLY TAKES ONE TIME TO MAKE IT AGGRESSIVE SO.

>> TO STRINGENT? >> I'M THINKING OF A DOG CHASES

[00:35:07]

CAT KIND OF THING. >> IT SAYS SEVERE INJURIES SO, IN THIS INSTANCE I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DOG THAT CAME IN HERE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO CAME IN HERE AND TALKED ABOUT HIS DOG LET THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF MEDICAL BILLS BECAUSE HE WAS ATTACKED AND HAD TO HAVE THOSE VET BILLS.

OUR HANDS WERE TIED WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT WAS A FIRST-TIME INCIDENT INCIDENT IT DID NOT KILL THE OTHER DOG, IT SEVERELY INJURED IT. OUR HANDS WERE TIED AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE THIS CAME FROM, THOSE CONTINUOUS CASES WE HAD

LIKE THAT. >> THAT WAS THE DOG THAT RAN OUT. THE OTHER ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS THE ONE THAT I HAD AND HAVE THE VIDEO.

OF THE SECURITY VIDEO UP BY HOMEOWNER WHOSE CAT LIKE TO LAY ON THE BACK PORCH, SCREENED IN BACK PORCH AND A FENCE YARD AND A DOG GOT INTO HER BACKYARD, GOT ONTO HER PORCH AND KILLED HER CAT, ON VIDEO. HER KIDS HAD TO WATCH IT FROM INSIDE OF THE HOUSE THERE WAS NOTHING WE COULD DO BECAUSE.

>> IT DID NOT MEET THE TWO INCIDENT RULE.

>> AND IT IS AWFUL TO WATCH. BUT I HAVE VIDEO IF ANYONE WANTS

IT. >> THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS, YOU OPEN YOUR DOOR AND THERE'S A CAT THERE AND YOUR DOG CHASES A.

IF THE DOG CATCHES THE CAT IT WILL DO DAMAGE, IS THERE SOME LEEWAY AS TO IF WE ENFORCE IT OR NOT?

>> YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE APPEAL PROCESS, IT'S IN THEIR TO TAKE IT TO A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO SAY DO THEY SEE IT THE SAME WAY WE SEE IT. THIS IS WHY IT HAPPENED AND THIS IS WHY YOU LET THE MAGISTRATE MAKE THAT DECISION.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> THE NEXT SECTION WE TALK ABOUT A HOBBY BREEDER. WE CHANGE THIS BASED ON THE CONVERSATION. ANY BREEDER NOT CLASSIFIED UNDER THE BREEDER LICENSE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REGISTER WITH THE COUNTY. IT LIMITS THE BREEDERS TO AND IT ALLOWS FOR INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THE NEXT LINE. WE TALK ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF THE YOUR REQUIRED TO GET THE LICENSE IF YOU PRODUCE DOGS OR DO RETAIL SALES WORKS POSITION. BARBARA MOORE SMALL EXOTIC ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THAT. SELL ANY DOG OR CAT NOT SOLD ON YOUR PREMISES OR ANY THAT HAVE FOUR MORE BREEDING FEMALES.

BOTH ARE THE PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR A LICENSE.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THEN THERE'S THE USDA WHO HAS EXEMPTIONS. BASICALLY ANY PERSONAL BREEDS OR SELLS A DOG OR CAT DIRECTLY TO A PET OWNER OUT OF RETAIL FOR THE BUYERS OWN USE AS A PET, HAS THREE OR FEWER LESS DO NOT BUY ANIMALS FOR RESALE TO NOT SELL TO A RESEARCH FACILITY AND DOES ALL SALES FACE-TO-FACE IS EXEMPT.

I KNOW THE CONCERN OF THE BOARD WAS LITERALLY OVERLAPPED.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT INSTANCES WE HAVE HAD, THOSE PEOPLE WHO WERE DOING FACE-TO-FACE SALES, YES, I LIKED ABOUT THIS DOG, WOULD HAVE BEEN EXEMPT FROM THE LICENSE.

I DON'T THINK THERE IS A FEAR OF BUS OVERSTEPPING THE LICENSING, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD ALREADY BE EXEMPT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THEY HAVE TO REGISTER WITH US?

>> PART OF THIS WOULD BE ESTABLISHING THE SCHEDULE.

SO WE CAN GO OUT INTO THE INITIAL INSPECTION.

>> RESALE OF DOGS AND CATS IT SHOULD BE UNLAWFUL FOR ANY TO ENGAGE IN THE RESALE. IT WILL BE IN UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO DO IT FOR FLEA MARKET SALE AND WROTE IT FOR THE CURRENT ESTABLISHMENTS TO HAVE COMPLIANCY WITH THE ORDER.

THIS WOULD EFFECTIVELY STOP GETTING THE SALES IN THE WALMART

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PARKING LOT AND ON COUNTY RIGHT-OF-WAY AND TRANSITION YOU AWAY FROM HAVING PET STORES. THIS.

INCLUDE SOMEONE FROM GETTING ANIMALS FROM ANIMAL SERVICES.

WE HAVE PRE-FOUR LOCATIONS. AND THEY ADOPT THEM OUT.

PEOPLE GET THE ANIMALS THEY DON'T CHARGE THEM A FEE AND THE INCENTIVE IS THERE. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. I WILL SAY THERE IS LEGISLATURE GOING THROUGH AND STATUTES GOING THROUGH THAT MAY PRECLUDE THIS, OR MAY DO THIS AT THE STATE LEVELS ANYWAY.

WE ARE WAITING TO SEE. BUT OUR PROPOSAL IS TO PUT IT IN OUR ORDINANCE AND IF THE STATE SINCE WE CAN'T DO IT, WE WILL

PULL IT BACK OUT. >> WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES?

>> WELL YOU WOULD BE NONCOMPLIANT.

>> NEXT LINE. CITATIONS CREATES A METHOD FOR ANIMAL SERVICES TO ISSUE A CITATION FEEL -- THE FEES WILL BE ESTABLISHED AND SOME FEES WOULD HAVE MANDATORY COURT APPEARANCES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF YOU VIOLATE THE ORDINANCE, WE CAN WRITE YOU A CITATION, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE FURTHER ACTION.

>> IS THIS ENFORCEABLE BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR TO HELP

OTHER PEOPLE TO WRITE IT? >> OUR PEOPLE WILL WRITE IT.

THEN THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM.

>> SO I DRIVE TO THE MALL AND I SEE SOMEBODY SELLING PUPPIES OUT OF THEIR PICKUP TRUCK, I CALL YOU?

>> YOU CALL ANIMAL SERVICES. >> WILL WE BE ABLE TO GET HOLD OF THEM PLEX I HAVEN'T FOUND IT EASY TO GET HOLD OF THEM.

>> TWO SEPARATE ANIMAL SERVICES OFFICE, ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS ARE DISPATCHED THROUGH FIRE RESCUE ON THE WEEKEND SO YES, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

>> THEY DO HAVE A NUMBER FOR AFTER HOURS AND THAT IS THE

DISPATCH ANYTIME WE ARE CLOSE. >> AFTER HOURS, ANIMAL CONTROL.

>> THERE IS DISPATCH AND FIRE AND RESCUE.

>> I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS WITH THE ORDINANCE.

THIS SPEAKS TO DEADLY FORCE. AND THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN, THE MANAGER, THE ASSISTANT AND OR THE POLICE CAN IMPLEMENT DEADLY FORCE. I THOUGHT WE SAID, OUR STAFF WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ISSUE DEADLY FORCE.

>> OUR OFFICERS DO NOT CARRY WEAPONS WITH THEM, AS FAR AS A GUN. WE DO CARRY STICKS, SO IF WE HAD TO, THEY COULD FIGHT STICK AN ANIMAL AND ITS ONLY IN THE CASE IF THEY HAD TO PUT A DOG NOW BECAUSE THE DOG WAS ATTACKING

SOMEONE. >> LET ME READ TO YOU.

THE APARTMENT HEAD OR ASSISTANT AND ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHEN CARRYING THIS OUT SHOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO USE REASONABLE FORCE UP TO AND INCLUDING THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE.

>> AUTHORIZES THEM. >> ARE WE AUTHORIZING OUR MANAGERS TO CARRY OUT DEADLY FORCE PLEX THIS IS WHAT THIS IS

SAYING TO ME. >> THIS IS CURRENTLY IN THE ORDINANCE. THIS HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED AS IT EXISTS TODAY BUT YES, IT DOES SAY THAT BUT WE DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CARRY A GUN.

>> WHY CAN'T THAT BE CHANGED? >> I DON'T KNOW UP WE SHOULD BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A DOCK THAT IS ATTACKING AND THEY STOP IT FROM BITING AND THEY KILL IT, THEY HAVE TO BE AUTHORIZED TO

USE DEADLY FORCE. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE THEY

HAVE A NON- TRICK. >> ARE BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE PIT BULLS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE OFFICERS COULD NOT DO ANYTHING. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CANNOT HAVE A WEAPON. CANCER PER COUNTY POLICY.

SO THIS IS THE ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS WHAT WE CAN DO.

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YOU HAVE A COUNTY POLICY THAT SAYS WHO CAN CARRY A WEAPON AND PLAN. I WOULD DEFER THAT TO BEING A

PERSONNEL POLICY. >> HOW CAN WE CHANGE IT? I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. THEY DON'T HAVE A DEFENSE.

>> IT'S A DIFFERENT TRAINING IF YOU ARE OFF-PRICE.

>> AND ME, MY KIDS. >> IS THERE A PROVISION TO LET THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ENFORCE THE LAW?

>> THAT IS INCLUDED. >> ARE WE THE ONLY ONES CAN

WRITE THE CITATION PLEX. >> ON THE CITATION IT IS JUST US THAT WRITES IT. THIS IS A DIFFERENT PROVISION THAT COMMISSIONER RENNINGER IS LOOKING AT.

>> I SPOKE TO THE OFFICERS AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A WEAPON.

THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T EITHER.

THAT IS A HARD JOB. THEY HAVE FAMILIES RIGHT THERE WITH THEM, THE DOGS ARE READY TO ATTACK.

WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THIS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T

CHANGE IT. >> WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE POLICY TO SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY WANTS TO TAKE ON HAVING

THAT QUALIFICATION PERIOD. >> MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS, IF IT WILL BE THAT ISSUE, THAT

PERSON -- I DON'T HOW TO DO IT. >> SEPARATING BY LEVEL.

I WOULD SAY, WHATEVER WE IMPLEMENT SHOULD BE UNIFORM BECAUSE WE HAVE SIX AND WE ARE FULLY STAFFED.

>> TO YOUR POINT, IF IT IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY WANTS TO LOOK AT IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT FOR THAT JOB DESCRIPTION AS A

WHOLE. >> I WILL REFER TO THE COUNTY

MANAGER ON THE PERSONNEL POLICY. >> I HAVE IN -- ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF TURNING THAT OVER TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE A DEPUTY GO OUT ON A DOG BARKING COMPLAINT BUT IF IT IS A DANGER TO THE CITIZENS LIKE A MAD DOG OR A REALLY AGGRESSIVE DOG, I THINK THE SHERIFF CAN AND LIVE.

>> I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU GET THE PHONE CALL THERE'S A DOG IN SOMEONE'S YARD YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU GET THERE IF THE DOG WILL ATTACK YOU OR ONE YOU CAN GET WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

I HAVE RIDDEN WITH THEM AND IF YOU DO THAT YOU WILL GO TO CALLS THAT SEEM SIMPLE, AND IT WILL BE THE WORST DOG AND THEN YOU WILL GET ONE THAT SAYS THIS DOG IS CHEWING THROUGH THE FENCE.

BUT NOW IT HAS CALM DOWN. IT IS REALLY HARD TO DROP A LINE AND SAY THIS CALL IS THIS OR THAT.

I WOULD SAY THE SAME FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL

YOU ARE THERE. >> ALSO A LACK OF STAFF.

OFFICERS -- >> SHERIFF DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT?

>> JUST LIKE THE OTHER ENTITY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST AND CONTROL A SITUATION. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THAT'S

NOT CURRENTLY HAPPENING. >> IT DID NOT HAPPEN.

SO, AND I KNOW, YOU ARE BUSY, THAT IS WHY I AM SAYING THEY ARE THERE WHY CAN'T THEY DEFEND THEMSELVES.

>> IT'S A FAIR QUESTION BUT NOT MINE TO ADJUDICATE BUT I UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT PROCESS. BUT IT IS TRUE, I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC CALL, BUT IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE A CALL ABOUT A DANGEROUS ANIMAL WE WOULD RESPOND AND TAKE WHATEVER ACTION WE WOULD HAVE TO

>> IT MAY BE 10 MINUTES AFTER THE ANIMAL CONTROL PERSON GETS ON-SITE. UP TO IT.

>> IT COULD BE SOMEONE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER OR TAKE A

SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME,. >> WHAT ARE YOUR FEELINGS ON

THEM HAVING A WEAPON. >> MY FEELINGS ARE THAT WOULD BE A DECISION THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE TAKEN ON A CERTAIN LEVEL OF LIABILITY AND THE LICENSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

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IT'S A LARGER DISCUSSION THAN WHAT I CAN GIVE AN OPINION ON.

>> OKAY, THAT IS MY FIRST QUESTION.

>> I DON'T THINK I NEED YOU ANYMORE.

>> PARAGRAPH 421 TALKS ABOUT TRACKING THE RABIES SHOTS, HOW

DO WE DO THAT IN THE COUNTY? >> I DON'T HAVE THE PARAGRAPH IN

FRONT OF ME. >> AS FAR AS ANIMALS THAT COME INTO THE FACILITY. I KNOW THEY NEED AN ANNUAL UPDATE. IT WOULD BE EITHER ONE YEAR OR THREE YEARS. IF WE PICKED UP IN ANIMAL OR SUSPECTED SOMEONE DIDN'T HAVE VALID PROOF, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO GO TO A VETERINARIAN -- THAT MARIAN TO GET YOUR ANIMAL

VACCINATED. >> IT'S ONLY ON DEMAND IF WE GO TO YOUR HOUSE. IF YOU COME INTO OUR FULL CUSTODY WITH YOUR ANIMAL WE WILL VACCINATE ANYTHING THAT LEAVES OUR FACILITY TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE VACCINATED UPON LEAVING THE

COUNTY FACILITY. >> BUT WE DON'T TRACK IT.

THEY DON'T REPORT TO US. THEY DON'T SAY THIS OR THAT THAT

REPORTS TO US. >> MY NEXT QUESTION, AND I MAY HAVE READ THIS WRONG, I HAVE READ THIS IS BY DPC RESOLUTION THAT THIS IS AN AGGRESSIVE DOG. I THINK THIS REPRESENTS THE FEES THIS IS ISSUED BY CLAY COUNTY. IF WE ADOPT THIS THIS WILL BE

ISSUED AS A HOBBY BREEDER. >> I GUESS THE DISCUSSION, WHAT

WAS THE RESULT OF BACK? >> I THINK THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE ORDINANCE. YOUR PERSONNEL POLICY GOVERNS THE CARRYING OF FIREARMS BY STAFF.

>> I THINK THE BEST WILL TO IS CALLED A POLICEMAN AND ONCE HE GETS THERE TO ASSESS THE SITUATION, THE PROBLEM IS HAVING GUYS SHOOTING THINGS IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.

THAT'S PRETTY SERIOUS WHEN YOU DISCHARGE A WEAPON.

>> HOW MANY OTHER COUNTIES DO THAT?

>> I'M NOT SURE, I WOULD HAVE TO DO THE RESEARCH HERE.

>> UNTIL YOU ARE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, YOU DON'T KNOW THE DEER. YOU'RE JOGGING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU CAN'T GO FORWARD OR BACKWARDS BECAUSE THAT IS COMING AT YOU. YOU HAVE KIDS WITH YOU, THEN YOU CALL SOMEONE, AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT YOU LIKE, THERE IS NOT MUCH THEY CAN DO, THEY HAVE TO SIT THERE AND WAIT.

ANYWAY. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.

>> HOW WILL WE RESOLVE THE GUN ISSUE?

>> IT'S A PERSONAL POLICY. IF WE COULD JUST READ THE ORDINANCE I THINK THERE WAS A POLICY ON DEADLY FORCE.

THAT IS THE CONNECTION. >> IN THE ORDINANCE WE AUTHORIZED DEADLY FORCE. WAS IT FIREARMS OR SOME OTHER

MEANS. >> THAT'S WHAT GIVES THE OFFICER THE ABILITY IF THEY HAVE TO PUT A DOG DOWN THEY CAN BY SOME MEANS. AND THEN WE WILL TO THE RESEARCH AND WE WILL ADDRESS THAT THROUGH A PERSONNEL POLICY.

BUT IF YOU ARE GOOD WITH THE ORDINANCE, I THINK COURTNEY'S ARGUMENT IS ADOPTING THIS FOR AGGRESSIVE DOGS PUTS THIS INTO

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EFFECT. >> ONE OTHER OPTION.

THIS GIVES THE COUNTY THE OPTION TO LEVY -- THIS IS AN OPTION BUT

NOT REQUIRED. >> WHY ISN'T IT REQUIRED? WHEN YOU HAVE A DOG THAT CAN SEVERELY INJURE A HUMAN BEING, THAT IS ONE OF THE CATEGORIES OF A DANGEROUS OR AGGRESSIVE DOG.

AND WE SAY -- IF IT SEVERELY INJURES A HUMAN BEING,.

>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE BUT IT'S NOT.

>> INSURED DISCRETION. >> I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THE DESCRIPTION THAT YOU HAVE TAKEN THE TIME TO INTERPRET THE PORTS

DECISION. >> I THINK THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED. IT'S LIKE THEY LOSE A RIGHT ONCE

THERE DOG DOES THAT. >> I THINK THAT IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR A DANGEROUS OR AGGRESSIVE DOG.

>> I HAVE DOGS THAT OPENED THE DOOR AND THE DOG TAKES OFF AND THEN SOMEONE COMPLAINS. THEN I HAVE TO PUT THE DOG DOWN BECAUSE THE INSURANCE IS WORTH MORE THAN THE DOG IS WORTH.

I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME LEEWAY ON THIS IF THE DOG IS A MUTUAL PROBLEM YES, BUT THE MAGISTRATE CAN MAKE THE CALL.

BUT THAT'S JUST ME. >> YOU MAY HAVE A THAT INNOCENTLY GETS OUT. THEN LAST SPRING HIS DOG GOT ATTACKED AND IT COST HIM VALVES OF DOLLARS TO REHABILITATE THE DOG AND THE PERSON WANTS THE DOG , WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE SECOND ATTACK BEFORE WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE SHOULD SAY IF THE DOG GETS OUT, AND THEY ARE UNFAIRLY TARGETED THEY WILL MAKE A

DETERMINATION. >> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAKING A RECOMMENDATION. THIS IS AN AGGRESSIVE DOG AND WE THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THIS CRITERIA.

THE PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL ANY GOES TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF YOU SAY MUST HAVE THE INSURANCE YOU HAVE TIED THE THE MAGISTRATES MAGISTRATE TEN WORK USACE SHALL, ANIMAL SERVICES COULD SAY.

>> IN THE CASE OF CHILD, WE WOULD HAVE NO OPTION.

>> ANIMAL SERVICES WILL MAKE AN APPEAL.

IT'S REALLY THE PORTS DECISION IF YOU WANT A REQUIREMENT.

AT THAT POINT THE MAGISTRATE WOULD ONLY HAVE TWO OPTIONS, TO AGREE WITH THE COUNTY'S ASSESSMENT THAT IT IS AGGRESSIVE

OR SAY I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. >> IF WE PICK IT UP ESSAYS IN

OUR FACILITY. >> USUALLY WHEN IT IS AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE WE PUT IT UNDER QUARANTINE.

THAT IS UNTIL WE FINISH OUR INVESTIGATION IT'S RARE WE ALLOW A DOG TO BE QUARANTINED AT SOMEONE'S HOUSE.

WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW THE DOG DID SOMETHING PRETTY BAD.

>> HOW LONG DOES THIS SITUATION TAKE?

>> IT GOES THROUGH AN ENTIRE INVESTIGATION AND IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE DETERMINATION, THEN THEY FILE A NOTICE WITHIN 7-10 DAYS AND THEN WE HAVE TO SET A HEARING, AND TO BE HONEST, MOST

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TIMES THE OWNER'S REQUEST TO EXTEND THE TIME.

>> WE HAVE A LOT DOGS WERE DANGEROUS IN EXCESS OF 60 DAYS.

>> 60? >> BY THE TIME YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF INVESTIGATION, WE SERVE YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR TEN DAY SHE SAY I WILL APPEAL WE SET THE HEARING WE HAVE THE HEARING,.

>> I DON'T LIKE THAT THEY ARE TAKING SPACE BUT I REALLY DON'T LIKE THAT THEY CAN'T STAY AT THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ALLOW THEIR ANIMALS TO DO STUFF LIKE THAT,.

>> FORT DANGEROUS DOGS I CAN TELL YOU MOST OF THE TIME WE DO

TAKE THEM. >> AND THEY TO PAY THE FEE.

IF IT IS 60 DAYS THEY DO HAVE TO PAY THE FEE FOR BOARDING FEED

FOR THE DOG TO BE THERE. >> IN YOU SAID THAT COUNTY MAKES THEIR DETERMINATION. AND WE TACK ON THE INSURANCE AT THAT POINT OR WITH THAT NOT HAPPEN?

>> WE WOULD TACK IT ON AS PART OF THE DETERMINATION AS FOR THE OBEDIENCE AND MUSCLING. RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY UNDER THE DANGER STALL GOAL OF THE RESTRICTIONS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR HOW THEY HAVE TO CONTAIN EITHER IN THEIR HOME OR IN THEIR YARD. THESE ARE ADDED TO THE

FRAMEWORK. >> GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN WE GET AN APPEAL IT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO MEET SOME REQUIREMENT THAT WE PUT INTO THE AGREEMENT.

THERE'S SOMETHING THEY DON'T LIKE THAT THEY WANT TO NEGOTIATE

OUT OF. >> IT COULD POSSIBLY PUSH THE DOOR OPEN SO THE DOG COULD NOT PUSH THE DOOR OPENED AND HE THAT. THAT IS WHEN WE GET THROUGH.

>> MY DOCK AND GET OUT HE JUST TELLS THE LEVER.

IF THE DOG BITES PEOPLE, WHACKED THEM.

IF THE DOG IS JUST A FLUKE I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOMEONE INTERVENE AND LOOK AT THE CASE BEFORE WE AUTOMATICALLY TO SOMETHING.

>> DO YOU WANT MAY OR SHALL. >> ALL IN FAVOR OF MAY RAISE YOUR HAND? ALL IN FAVOR OF SHALL RAISE YOUR HAND. THE CHILD HAPPY.

>> DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR DEDUCTIBLES? THE INSURACE LADY SAID THE LOWEST OR MOST COMMON ARE THE

1500. >> I THINK THEY WILL ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOAL. BUT ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO OBTAIN A POLICY. OF POLICY THEY CANNOT OBTAIN.

>> WHY SHOULD WE DETERMINE WHERE THEY WILL GET THEIR POLICY.

THERE IS A LIST OF POTENTIAL AND YOU GO AFTER THE ONE YOU NEED.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD ESTABLISH A DEDUCTIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT

SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO PAY. >> BUT THAT IS THEIR ISSUE.

>> THEN PEOPLE WILL GET INJURED AND DON'T GET MONEY.

>> THE INSURANCE COVERS THE REST.

>> ST. PIERRE FRANC TO IMPECCABLE.

>> THAT IS UNTIL THE PEOPLE PAY IT.

IF YOU DON'T PUT A DEDUCTIBLE IN THEIR THEY WILL GO TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND GET A $50,000 DEDUCTIBLE.

YOU WILL NEVER GET TO YOUR INSURANCE.

>> WE WILL JUST COME UP WITH A PROPOSAL AND BRING IT BACK.

>> SORRY TO BRING ALL OF THAT UP.

>> THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE. >> ARE WE VOTING ON THE

ORDINANCE? >> WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING BOXED UP SO WE CAN VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE AT THE

NEXT MEETING. >> I WAS READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED?

>> I AM GOOD. >> LET'S GO TO THE TIME CERTAIN'S. MOST OF THESE HAVE BEEN PULLED.

BUT WE NEED A PUBLIC HEARING. >> WE NEED THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TO CONTINUE THEM TO THE RESPECTIVE DATES AND I CAN HELP

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YOU WORK THROUGH THOSE. >> OBVIOUSLY I NEED HELP.

[23.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider DRI 2021-02.(District 5, Comm. Burke) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval. (B. Carson)]

[24.  Consideration of Agreements for donation of land for community park, civic site and fire station site (District 5, Comm. Burke) (C. Grimm)]

[25.  Mobility Fee Credit Agreement for First Coast Connector - Peters Creek]

[26.  Mobility Fee Credit Agreement for First Coast Connector - Reinhold]

[27.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Second Public Hearing to consider Adoption of CPA 2021-10. (District 5, Comm. Burke) (B. Carson)]

[28.  Public Hearing to consider PUD-2021-06. (District 5, Comm Burke) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval. (M. Brown)]

[29.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of REZ-2021-19. (District 5, Comm Burke) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval (M. Brown)]

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>> FIRST WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ALL OF THEM.

>> WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NOW WE WILL TALK ABOUT CONTINUING.

>> FOR ITEMS 23-32. MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL

MARCH 8. >> SO MOVE.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

IT CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. >> FOR ITEMS 33 THERE WILL -- THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IN CONNECTION WITH A

SECOND PUBLIC HEARING. >> SO MOVE.

>> SECOND PERIOD. >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY

SAYING AYE. >> LIKEWISE FOR ITEMS 34, A MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL MARCH 22.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

[8.  Utility Tax]

>> OKAY, THAT'S ALL FOR TIME CERTAIN'S NOW WE ARE BACK TO THE

UTILITY TAX. >> PUBLIC SERVICE TAX FOR UTILITY TAX, AGAIN COMING BACK FOR DIRECTION, THE BOARD DESIRES TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE. ON THE FIRST LIGHT UTILITY TAX CAN BE CHARGED BY MUNICIPALITIES.

CLAY COUNTY CHARGES 4% CURRENTLY.

4% ON NATURAL LPN MANUFACTURED GAS AND .06 ON FUEL OIL KEROSENE AND 0% ON WATER. THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS 10%.

THE STATUTE EXEMPTS THE FIRST KILOWATTS FOR ELECTRIC.

TERMINAL EXEMPTIONS FOR GAS OR WATER USAGE.

>> IS THAT A STATUTE? >> I WAS JUST CATCHING UP, THERE'S ONLY AN EXEMPTION FOR ELECTRIC BECAUSE THERE'S NOT AN EXEMPTION FOR THE OTHERS. IT IS PROHIBITED?

THAT WOULD YOU SAID? >> THAT MEANS YOU CANNOT EXEMPT

USAGE. >> IN THE NEXT SLIDE, WE HAVE THE LARGE PIZZA PAPER THAT TALKS ABOUT THE DATABASE OF THE OTHER RATES. THAT WAS PROVIDED SO YOU COULD COMPARE THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES AND LODGMENT

COUNTY AND OTHER AREAS. >> SOMETHING JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SURROUNDING COUNTIES IT'S ONLY THE CHARTER COUNTIES THAT HAVE THIS.

THAT IS WHY ST. JOHN'S AS A COUNTY IS NOT LISTED BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A CHARTER COUNTY EVEN THOUGH THERE MUNICIPALITIES

ARE INCLUDED ON THE LIST. >> ALACHUA COUNTY CAN HAVE BOTH?

>> ONE OF THE SHEETS WILL SHOW YOU THE CHARTER COUNTIES.

I THINK IT WAS THE LOCAL CHARTER COUNTY.

THOSE WERE THE ONES WHERE WE COULD PULL FOR YOU WHICH WERE

DUE BALL AND VOLUSIA. >> SO AT THE WORKSHOP YOU ASKED US TO BRING BACK A CHART. 1% ELECTRIC AND 4% GAS IS WHAT WE ARE COLLECTING ANNUALLY. YOU WILL SEE THE NUMBERS THAT RUN IT TO 10%. AND WERE NOT COLLECTING WATER THIS ESTIMATE. IF YOU GO TO THE 10%, BASICALLY, IF YOU IMPLEMENT A FULL 10% YOU WOULD COLLECT ADDITIONAL REVENUE

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AND IF YOU IMPLEMENTED THE 10% ON WATER YOU WOULD GENERATE 1.8 MILLION. PEAK SO, THESE ARE YOUR OPPORTUNITIES TO RESTRUCTURE YOUR REVENUE FOR CRITICAL SERVICES AND DISTRIBUTION OF TAX BURDEN, BUFFERS, PROPERTY VALUE AND GROWTH AND USE FOR ELECTRICAL VEHICLES.

IT CAN ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND PUBLIC SAFETY SHORTFALLS AND OTHER MANDATES. PEAK IF YOU DECIDED TO IMPLEMENT OR CHANGE YOUR UTILITY TAX OR PUBLIC SERVICE TAX, THIS GOES THROUGH WHERE THE TAX LEVY MUST BE ADOPTED.

THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE MUST BE NOTIFIED 120 DAYS BEFORE EFFECTIVE DATE ASSUMING THE COUNTY WANTED TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 1, THEY MUST BE NOTIFIED NO FURTHER THAN JUNE 3. THIS LAYS OUT YOUR TIMELINE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY CHOOSES TO DO.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. I KNOW THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH UTILITIES, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM,.

>> WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE IMPACT THAT THIS WILL BE WITH

THE AVERAGE WILL LOOK LIKE? >> IT VARIES BASED ON USAGE AND IF YOU LOOK AT A 150-DOLLAR BILL YOU'RE TALKING 6%.

THAT'S $9. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR TROY?

>> NO QUESTIONS AND WHAT THIS ONE BILL GENERATE?

>> IT WAS SIX AND A HALF. 12-15 MILLION.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTYWIDE , YES.

>> IF WE COULD REPLACE SOME OF THAT WITH UTILITY TAX, WE COULD

REPLACE HALF OF IT. >> YES.

>> IF YOU WENT WITH THIS AND YOU MAX AMOUNT YOU WOULD GENERATE --

>> I THINK WE COULD OFFSET THAT. THEY WOULD PROBABLY BALANCE EACH

OTHER OUT. >> IT'S ON THE ELECTRIC AND GAS.

YOU WOULD GENERATE SIX AND HALF MILLION IF YOU WENT TO 10% WHICH

IS CAP OF A MILL CURRENTLY. >> ARE YOU SAYING GO DOWN FROM WHAT WE JUST DID AND CHANGE IT TO A UTILITY TAX BREAKS.

>> THAT IS ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THE UTILITY TAX.

IT SPREADS IT TO ALL USERS INSTEAD OF JUST PROPERTY OWNERS.

QUITE HONESTLY, THAT IS WHAT WE DID IN ORANGE PARK, I'M CERTAIN WE WILL ADVOCATE FOR THAT HERE AS WELL.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE BROADBENT FIRST.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE TO GET THAT DONE.

IF WE COULD DO IT INTO NEXT YEAR OR TWO THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND GIVE US THE FUNDING SOURCE TO SAY, HERE ARE THE BUCKS TO MAKE

IT HAPPEN. >> BUT YOU MAY HAVE A FUNDING

SOURCE THROUGH THE STATE. >> ONE THING I WOULD SAY YOU DO HAVE OTHER EXEMPTIONS BEING APPLIED.

YOUR HALF MILL FROM LAST YEAR MAY NOT BE THE SAME BECAUSE OF

THE OTHER EXEMPTIONS. >> WE DON'T KNOW.

>> I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT IN THAT FASHION.

PEOPLE WILL PASS THEIR OWN TAX-CUT, AND THEN WE HAVE UNKNOWN PROPORTIONS WHETHER IT IS 3 MILLION OR 4 MILLION.

WERE NOT LOOKING AT JUST REPLACING, WE WANT TO LOOK AT

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ABOVE AND BEYOND TO DO THAT. >> SO DISCOUNTING WILL BE DISCOUNTED BY THE STATE IF THEY GO DOWN THAT PATH.

>> >> I HAD A QUESTION WITH -- I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH TRACY AND HE SAID IT IS LOOKING LIKE RECORD PROPERTY VALUES. SO WE WOULD HAVE --

>> THEY SAID THE INCREASE WOULD BE AT 9%.

>> HE SAID 8-9% AT LEAST. >> BUT THAT IS ONLY ONE YEAR.

THE ADDITIONAL EXEMPTIONS WILL BE FOREVER.

IT IS TOUGH TO FORECAST WHAT IS COMING IN.

>> I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOU. >> YOU SEE YOU SAID AN INCREASE OF ONE YEAR. HOME VALUES DO NOT GO DOWN EXCEPT IN RARE OCCURRENCES LIKE 2008 AND 2009.

>> TRUST ME, I LIVED THROUGH THAT.

>> YOU TURN ON THE NEWS TODAY AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT GAS WILL GO TO $5 PER GALLON. THE RESIDENTS ARE HURTING AND EMPLOYEES. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE WHO SAID PEOPLE WHO ARE APPLYING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE ARE FIREFIGHTERS AND DEPUTIES AND THESE ARE TOUGH TIMES.

>> ONE MORE THING. THE UTILITY TAX AS FAR AS ELECTRIC IS CONCERNED. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. ESPECIALLY AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DOWNWARD TREND OF THE GAS TAX. FLORIDA IS NUMBER THREE FOR ELECTRIC CARS IN THE COUNTRY. WE ARE WAY BEHIND CALIFORNIA, BUT ON THE SAME TOKEN, 30,000 OR MORE ELECTRIC CARS SO FAR WITH THE WAY MANUFACTURERS ARE PUSHING ELECTRIC CARS.

FOR US TO RECOUP MONEY ON WHAT WE ARE LOSING THROUGH GAS TAX WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH ELECTRICITY TO COLLECT TAX FROM THAT SO WE CAN KEEP CARS ON THE ROAD.

>> I THINK THE PREFERRED SOLUTION IS GETTING A MILEAGE COUNT AT THE END OF THE YEAR PERIOD.

>> THAT WOULD BE VERY UNPOPULAR IN CLAY COUNTY.

>> IT WOULD BE A FEDERAL DEAL I AM SURE.

>> THERE ARE A FEW MANUFACTURERS LIKE 2034 AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S COMING. BUT WHEN ANY OF OUR UTILITY

PARTNERS LIKE TO COMMENT. >> PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

WE WILL GIVE YOU 3 MINUTES. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

JUST TO PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE WE HAVE 180,000 MEMBERS THAT WE SERVE IN NORTH FLORIDA. THE REASON WE ARE AT 4%, IS BECAUSE IT WASN'T A POPULAR TAX WHEN IT WAS IMPLEMENTED.

AS A MEMBER OWN NOT-FOR-PROFIT UTILITY WE TO WHAT THE MEMBERS WANT US TO DO AND WE PROVIDE SERVICE AT COST.

THAT MEANS IF WE HAVE ANY EXCESS REVENUE WE GIVE IT BACK TO THE MEMBERS. NEXT MONTH THEY WILL GET $12 MILLION. REMEMBER THE NUMBER $12 MILLION.

THAT IS WHAT OUR UTILITY MADE IN EXCESS REVENUE.

LAST YEAR WE PAID $3.2 MILLION IN PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

4 MILLION IN A UTILITY TAX. IF YOU RAISE IT TO 10%, WE WILL PAY MORE TO THE COUNTY THAN WE MAKE IN A YEAR OUT OF UTILITY BELT OF INCENTIVE MARGIN. JUST TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE,

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THAT IS A BIG BURDEN FOR US AND THE MEMBERS.

OUR TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX INCREASE IN 202021.

SO WE DO SEE FUTURE GROWTH COMING AND THIS IS THAT RATE LEVELS TO INCREASE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TAXES WE PAY.

WE ARE THE LARGEST TAXPAYERS, WE WOULD ASK THAT THE RATES THEY.

THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AFTER RELATIVE TO A STAFF QUESTION.

FLORIDA STATUTE 221 AS EXEMPTIONS SPECIFIC TO THE TYPES OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ACCOUNTS.

I AM NOT SURE IF THEY ARE EXEMPT IN THE STATUE OR THE ORDINANCE BUT THAT MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE TO LOOK AT.

>> SO YOU'VE ALREADY CHECKED IT OUT.

WE WANT TO BE A GOOD PARTNER. WE BELIEVE WE PINNACLE PARTNER FOR 80 PLUS YEARS. WE ARE HEADQUARTERED HERE.

HALF OF THE EMPLOYEES LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN CLAY COUNTY.

WE TRIED TO SUPPORT THE YOUTH WITH A VARIETY OF OTHER THINGS.

I JUST WANT TO PUT INTO PERSPECTIVE THE MAGNITUDE OF THE TAX RELATIVE TO THE WE ACTUALLY MAKE ABOVE OUR COSTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER BUSINESSES BEING ASKED TO MATCH THEIR PROFIT LEVEL. THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SHARE AND

LEAVE WITH YOU ALL. >> HOW MANY OTHER COUNTIES TO

USURP? >> WE ARE IN PARTS OF 14 COUNTIES. AND SOME REALLY HAVE 2,000 CONSUMERS. OBVIOUSLY CLAY COUNTY IS ALMOST

HALF OF OUR UTILITY. >> WE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE LOWEST TAX UTILITIES IN THIS WHOLE LIST OF COUNTIES.

THE OTHER COUNTIES THAT YOU SERVE, SOME ARE CHARGING 10%.

>> TEN IN A LOGICAL. THEY ARE OWNED BY A COUPLE OF CORPORATIONS. THOSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING UTILITIES. IN ACAPULCO.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? >> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT THIS IS NOT A TAX ON THE UTILITY IT IS ON THE USAGE LEVEL.

IT REALLY AFFECTS NONE OF YOUR PROFIT.

>> THAT IS CORRECT BUT IT IS PROPORTIONS.

>> WE ARE JUST A COLLECTION AGENT.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE TAX BUSINESS OR THE COLLECTION

BUSINESS. >> TO CONFUSE THE VIEWERS THAT THIS WILL AFFECT PROFITS IT WON'T.

>> WE ARE NOT FOR PROFIT. >> WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.

>> IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

>> THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF I RAN A FEW NUMBERS.

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I WAS ASKED THE IMPACT AND BEFORE I JUMP INTO THAT, ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, THEY CONTRIBUTE FOR NAP% OF GROSS REVENUE SO THERE IS A CONTRIBUTION TO THAT.

IT GETS COMPLICATED WHEN YOU TALK WATER DEMAND.

WHEN YOU TALK ESSENTIAL USE, THAT'S NOT VERY ELASTIC BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT OUTSIDE IRRIGATION THAT IS VERY ELASTIC.

THERE IS A HIGH VARIABILITY -- ON THIS HIGH DEGREE OF THIS.

GETTING INTO THE NUMBERS AND THE IMPACT FOR THE CUSTOMERS IDLER AT THE HIGH MONTH ON THE LOW MONTH.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HIGH MONTH FOR THE CUSTOMER USAGE THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF $2.08.

THE MEDIAN IS CLOSE TO $2 PER PILL.

WE SEE THAT AS BEING LISTED AS SOMETHING THAT PASSED THROUGH.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE LARGER NUMBERS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT RECLAIMED. THIS WOULD BE FIVE AND A HALF DOLLARS ADDED TO EVERY RECLAIMED CUSTOMER.

WHAT'S INTERESTING IN THIS GROUP GIVEN THE VARIABILITY WHEN YOU ADD ADDITIONAL PRICE POINTS YOU WILL LIKELY SEE ELASTICITY WITH THE LOWER DEMAND WHICH COULD IMPACT UTILITY AND PROTECTED COUNTY REVENUE. THAT WAS THE HIGH DEMAND MONTH.

LOOKING AT THE LOW DEMAND MONTH, THIS IS JUST RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS. WITH THE SAME METER.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT BOTH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING.

AND THE MEDIAN IS JUST SLIGHTLY BELOW THAT.

ONE THING THAT'S INTERESTING, ESPECIALLY TALKING ABOUT RECLAIMED WATER, IN A MONTH LIKE FEBRUARY YOU WILL SEE 70% OF THE CUSTOMERS HAVE 0 RECLAIMED WATER USAGE SO BOTH TAXES ON THE BASE CHARGE. WHEREAS IN MAY THROUGH JULY YOU WILL SEE THAT NUMBER, 10-12% OF CUSTOMERS USE NO RECLAIMED.

SO YOU HAVE 90% WHO ARE USING THE SYSTEM.

THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF OUR WATER USAGE.

SO I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> SO, TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT BUT SINCE WE HAVE YOU IN FRONT OF US, THEY WERE -- WE WERE TALKING ABOUT JOBS AND INCENTIVES, WE WERE INFORMED THAT NIAGARA IS DOUBLING THEIR CAPACITY AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE, THERE ARE MANY CITIZENS CONCERNED ABOUT USAGE AND WATER SUPPLY AREAS.

>> NOTHING WITH NIAGARA HAS CHANGED HERE IT'S THE SAME NUMBERS. THEY HAVE HAD ONE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT THAT CAME IN ALL WITHIN THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN AND DESIGNATION THAT THEY GAVE US.

NOTHING AS CHANGE. >> SO YOU ARE WELL BELOW?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> WE ARE AND THE PROCESS LIKE I POINTED OUT FOR THE RENEWAL, WE ARE STILL HIGHLY CONFIDENT IN OUR WATER SUPPLY PLANNING. ALL OF THOSE TARGETS REMAIN THE SAME AND THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL THAT WE PUT IN THE PARTICIPATION PROJECT IN THE AGREEMENT IS THE SAME WE HAVE IN OUR WATER SUPPLY

PLAN. >> SO WHEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ISSUES THEY DON'T NEED TO BE CONCERNED, ESPECIALLY IN THAT

AREA. >> NOTHING AS CHANGE WITH THE CONFIGURATION. IT IS THE SAME TO PLANTS THAT HAVE ASSISTED. THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE GOING ON WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME ELECTRICAL UPGRADES BUT NOTHING WITH REGARD TO THE WELLS, OR THE TANKS.

>> THINK YOU. >> HOW OFTEN DO YOU HAVE TO GO

THROUGH THAT RENEWAL? >> IT IS EVERY 20 YEARS.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE BLACK CREEK WATER RESOURCE PROJECT IT

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OPENED THE DOOR FOR AN EARLY RENEWAL.

IT WAS GOING TO EXPIRE IN 2025, WE SAW THIS AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING EFFORTS THAT I INITIATED COMING IN AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO MAKE THOSE THINGS ONLINE. WE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE LONG TERM PERMITS AND MORE. >> THAT WE SHOULD BE GOOD FOR 20

YEARS? >> YES, SIR.

>> THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION IN THIS CONVERSATION.

NOT ONLY DO YOU GET FOREIGN HALF% OF GROSS PROFITS BUT YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE WATER RESOURCE IF THERE IS A SURPLUS, THAT THEY GENERATE IT WILL GO TO OFFSET CAPITAL COST.

IN REGARD TO THE PARTICIPATION PROJECT THAT IS A CAPITAL LEASE FOR WE HAVE CAPITALIZE THE PARTICIPATION AND THAT PROJECT.

>> ALL RIGHT, WHERE WE. WE READY TO DO A FINAL DISCUSSION TO SEE IF WE WANT TO CARRY THIS SONG.

COMMISSIONER BURKE WHAT YOU THINK?

>> I THINK I'M NOT FORD. >> HARD NO.

>> I AM IN. >> I PERSONALLY WANT TO LINE HOURS WITH THE REST OF THE REGION LOOKING TO THE FUTURE WITH ELECTRIC CARS. FEW WERE AND FEWER GALLONS OF GAS TAX, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO RESURRECT THE REVENUE STREAM.

I AM ALL FOR REALIGNING. IM NOT FOR WATER RATE INCREASE.

ELECTRICITY IS AN ELEMENT OF LIKE.

>> YOU WILL GET A CODE ENFORCEMENT VISIT.

>> THAT'S MY FEELING. I FEEL LIKE ELECTRICITY IS NOT ESSENTIAL IT IS A MODIFIABLE THING IN YOUR LIFESPAN.

THOSE ARE MY FEELINGS. >> AND IT'S MY FEELING YOU SHOULDN'T MIX ELECTRICITY AND WATER.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GET THAT OUT THERE.

>> I THINK I HAVE BEEN WORN OUT BY SCIENCE.

I HOPE THEY PICK UP ON THAT. >> ALTHOUGH I SEE THE NEED, I THINK I WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A UTILITY TAX AT THIS TIME UNTIL WE SEE WHAT THE STATE LEGISLATOR DOES.

IF I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER IT IS GO OR NO GO I

WOULD SAY NO GO RIGHT NOW. >> THAT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF SHOULD NOT SPEND MORE TIME WORKING ON A UTILITY TAX AT THIS POINT.

>> DID I HEAR SECRETARY TEBO TALK WHEN WE LISTEN TO THEM HAVE PLAYED A. I THOUGHT WHAT HE SAID HE WAS ANTICIPATING WAS THE GAS TAX WOULD TRANSLATE OVER TO AN ELECTRICITY TAX. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> HE WAS NONCOMMITTAL. >> WILL HE IS LEAVING OFFICE.

>> BUT IF YOU ASK THEM ABOUT THE JETS AT THE AIRPORT, HE WOULD BE

MORE FORTHCOMING. >> BUT THERE MAY BE A FLIP ON TAX AS WELL THAT IS WORTHWHILE FOR THE CONVERSATION.

>> THAT'S WHAT I SAID BEFORE TRANSITIONING TO ELECTRIC CARS YOU HAVE 30,000 ON THE ROAD. THAT NUMBER WILL JUST GROW.

THE NUMBER OF TESLAS YOU SEE, ONCE MAINSTREAM, THE BIG THREE AUTOMAKERS, AND THE JAPANESE CARMAKERS, ONCE THEY MAKE NOTHING BUT ELECTRIC CARS PEOPLE WILL HAVE A CHOICE.

THEY ARE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUILD A RECHARGING NETWORK. AT THAT POINT, AS THE TAX GOES DOWN YOU HAVE TO FUND THE ROADS WITH SOMETHING.

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>> THE BULK OF THE HIGHWAY TAX COMES THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND I EXPECT THEY WILL TAKE THE LEAD.

BUT THOSE ARE GAS TAXES. >> THE PROPOSALS I HAVE HEARD, THEY HAVE BEEN, WE SHOULD CHARGE , WE ARE CHARGING WHAT GALLONS? AND WE SHOULD BE CHARGING ON THE MONEY, THAT IS ONE SCENARIO. THE OTHER SCENARIO WAS THE MILEAGE THAT IS WHAT IS REALLY WEARING OUT THE ROADS.

THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

THERE MAY BE SOME PRIVACY PUSH MAX BUT I WAS IN INDIANA AND I HAD TO REPORT MY MILEAGE EVERY YEAR.

I THINK, THE JURY IS OUT ON THIS BUT WE WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE FEDERAL LEAD, IT WILL HAPPEN. I JUST WANTED TO ASK THE

QUESTION AND GET AN OPINION. >> IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION.

AND I HEARD THIS MORNING THERE ARE SEVERAL DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS WOULD HAVE CALLED ON% THE PRESIDENT I GUESS, TO SUSPEND THE FEDERAL GAS TAX FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR BECAUSE WE

ARE HEADED TO $5 PER GAMBLING. >> HE ALSO PROPOSED IT BUT IT HASN'T MADE IT TO THE LEGISLATURE.

I DO THINK, COMMISSIONER BULLOCK MAY HAVE AN IDEA ON WHERE THAT IS GOING IN TERMS OF THE SALES TAX.

THAT WOULD REFLECT MORE REVENUE RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY AS GAS CONTINUES TO BE LESS DEPENDENT ON VEHICLES.

THINK BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, I DON'T THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL

DECIDE. >> OKAY, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE

[9.  Business Tax]

DOWN ON UTILITY TAX AND OPEN BUSINESS TAXPAYER.

>> AND ONE OF THE WORKSHOPS WE DISCUSSED THE BUSINESS TAXPAYER OR A BUSINESS LICENSE. IT IS A CHARGE FOR ENGAGING IN ANY CLAY COUNTY TO ENACT ADDITIONAL PENALTIES.

IT HAS BENEFITS TO JOBS AND IT WILL BE COLLECTED BY A TAX COLLECTOR THERE'S A TAX COLLECTOR.

A BREAKDOWN TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAS THE BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE LISTED OUT THE DOCUMENTS, THEY ARE FOUR PAGES AND THEY HAVE 150 DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS. THEY COLLECTED $440,000 LAST YEAR AND THEN WE LISTED OUT THE RATES AND WE DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM TOMBALL COUNTY ON HOW MUCH THEY COLLECTED LAST YEAR.

>> THESE ARE THE COUNTIES BUT SO YOU HAVE A BASIS, THREE OF THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESS TAXPAYER THE CITY OF KEYSTONE AS A FLAT RATE OF $25. RINCON HAS DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

ORANGE PARK HAS SEPARATE -- SEPARATE CATEGORIES THAT ALIGN WITH DUBOIS THAT RANGE BETWEEN 60-40.

>> SO AGAIN, THEY COLLECTED $44,000 LAST YEAR.

OF THAT THIS WAS GIVEN TO THE TAX COLLECTOR.

IF YOU USE THE 20% MODEL YOU WOULD TAKE 20% OF YOUR GROSS REVENUE AND FROM THAT THE COUNTY WOULD RETAIN 80% AND DISTRIBUTE THE OTHER PERCENTAGE LISTED TO THE MUNICIPALITIES.

THE MENTAL POLITY STILL HAS TO HAVE THEIR BUSINESS TAX, THE COUNTIES BUSINESS TAX WOULD APPLY TO ALL BUSINESSES AND THAT IS WHY YOU SEE FELT MUNICIPALITIES FROM THE MONEY FOR THE COUNTY COLLECTS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE TO SHARE THAT.

>> SO IF I HAVE PATHETICALLY OWN A BUSINESS IN A MUNICIPALITY, I HAVE TO PAY IT TWICE PARAGRAPH TO PAY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

>> YOU WOULD PAY THE KEYSTONE $25 AND THEN THE COUNTY.

>> OKAY. UNLESS TESSERACT.

>> EVEN IF YOU DON'T DO THE DISTANCE IN THE COUNTY.

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>> SO BENEFITS AND IMPACTS. YOU CAN MAKE SURE EVERY COUNTY IS PAYING THEIR SALES FACT. ST. JOHNS COUNTY'S AND MOST REQUIRE YOU TO HAVE THE ZONING SIGN OFF BEFORE YOU CAN PAINT YOUR BUSINESS TAX TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE PROPERLY ZONE.

AND THEN KNOWING WHAT BUSINESSES WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY.

ONE THING I WILL SAY HERE, THIS IS NOT A MECHANISM TO SHUT DOWN BUSINESSES OR PRECLUDE A BUSINESS FROM DOING BUSINESS IN CLAY COUNTY. THIS IS NOT SAYING WE ARE PULLING YOUR BUSINESS TAXPAYER THIS IS NOT ALLOWABLE FROM MY

UNDERSTANDING. >> IT'S NOT AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM. AS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THE MAIN RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE LOOKING AT YOUR ZONING CLASSIFICATION MAKING SUGAR BUSINESSES IN THE RIGHT ZONE AND MAKING SURE IF THE STATE REQUIRES ANY LICENSING THEY HAVE THAT BEFORE YOU DO IT. BUT THERE'S NO OTHER

RESTRICTIONS. >> COULD THEY GO INTO BUSINESS

WITHOUT THE LICENSE? >> THEY COULD BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE PENALTIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND WE WOULD MOVE THROUGH

THE PROCESS. >> FOR INSTANCE, I SPOKE TO THE TAX COLLECTOR THEY DON'T HAVE ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT.

IF YOU THINK, JOE TIRE SHOP DOESN'T HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE POSES THEY WILL SEND THEM A LETTER AND SAY YOU NEED TO PAY YOUR BUSINESS TAX, DO YOU ACTIVELY GO OUT AND LOOK FOR BUSINESSES THAT DON'T PAY THEIR BUSINESS TAXPAYER IT'S MORE OF A SELF REPORTING PROCESS SPENT ACTIVELY GOING OUT.

17,000 BUSINESSES WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH, ASSUMING WE HAVE A SIMILAR NUMBER WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH REZONING VERIFICATION.

CODE ENFORCEMENT INCREASES IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO ANY MONITORING, THE COUNTY OFFICE WOULD BE TAXED AS WE TALKED ABOUT. REVENUES AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ANY EXEMPTIONS YOU WANT TO PUT IN.

>> AND THE STATUTE HAS MANDATORY EXEMPTIONS YOU WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE. THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF THEM BUT

THERE'S A LOT OF EXEMPTIONS. >> IT'S MORE LIKE IF IT IS A VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS, THE DISTRICT -- THE DIFFERENCES WITH ACTIVE-DUTY MILITARY. PEOPLE RECEIVING PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, DIFFERENT THINGS FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE REGULATED.

AND THOSE THAT HAVE OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE IN JACKSONVILLE CAN THEY COME DO BUSINESS HERE AND BE EXEMPT.

>> HOW DOES ACTIVE-DUTY MILITARY RUN OF BUSINESS QUICKSAND AS A SPOUSE OF AN ACTIVE DUTY SERVICE MEMBER WHO HAS RELOCATED TO THE COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY PURSUANT TO CHANGE OF ORDER.

>> COULD YOU REVIEW PROFESSIONAL REGULATION.

>> IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS PROFESSION OR OCCUPATION THAT IS REGULATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS REGULATION AND YOU HAVE PAID A BUSINESS TAX TO ANOTHER COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY UPFRONT YOU WOULD BE EXEMPT IF THAT IS YOUR PRIMARY LOCATION. IF YOU'RE JUST COMING IN TO OPERATE IN CLAY COUNTY AND YOU ARE ALREADY REGULATED AND YOU HAVE YOUR LICENSE IN JACKSONVILLE YOU WOULD NOT HAVE

TO. >> LIKE AN OUT-OF-STATE WG I?

>> THEY HAVE AN OFFICE HERE SO WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE.

>> THEY HAVE A LOCATION HERE. IT WOULD BE AN EXAMPLE OF A

GROUP THAT COMES TO OPERATE. >> LIKE IF YOU ARE A BEAUTICIAN

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YOU CAN DO THAT OUT OF YOUR HOUSE.

IF YOU WERE IN YOUR JACKSONVILLE OFFICE, YOU PAGER BUSINESS LICENSE THEN YOU COME TO CLAY COUNTY AND YOU DO A HAIRCUT

WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. >> SO IF THEY COME TO TRIM TREES, THEY ARE NOT LICENSED BY THE STATE.

>> ENGAGING WITH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THEY WILL BE MEETING AFTER THE BOARD MEETING AND WE WILL GET MORE INFORMATION ON THEIR STANCE.

THIS WILL PROMOTE ECONOMIC ADVANCEMENT.

THAT IS ONE OPTION YOU HAVE. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT WHEN? >> IT ALLOWS YOU TO USE IT FOR IF YOU WANT TO DO ENHANCED BUSINESSES.

WE TALKED ABOUT DOING AN INCUBATO THIS COULD BE USED TO

FUND THAT KIND OF OPERATION. >> THIS IS THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. I KNOW THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXTENT BUT WHAT THE STATUTE SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES, THE REVENUES MAY BE USED FOR OVERSEEING AND IMPLEMENTING A COMPREHENSIVE DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY THROUGH ADVERTISING PROMOTIONAL AND OTHER MARKETING TECHNIQUES.

I THINK THAT IS A BETTER STATEMENT THAN THE ONE ON THIS SLIDE. THIS MAKES IT SEEMED LIKE WE HAVE DECIDED AND IT WILL BENEFIT IF I READ THAT I MAY THINK I'M GOING TO GET SOMETHING FROM ALL OF THIS.

MOST LIKELY THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FROM IT.

>> WHEN YOU OPEN A BUSINESS THERE'S THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO.

I KNOW INTO OTHER COUNTIES WE HAD TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE.

HOW WOULD THAT HAPPEN HERE? >> WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSULT WITH THE TAX COLLECTOR. DOES SHE OFFER IT AND JUST ONE.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY YOUR BUSINESS TAXPAYER.

>> PEOPLE WHO EXIST HOW DO WE GET THEM TO DO THAT?

>> IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED AND THEY WOULD GET A NOTICE TO SAY YOU NEED TO BRING YOUR BUSINESS INTO COMPLIANCE.

>> AND IF THEY DON'T. >> THERE IS A PENALTY BUT HOW YOU DECIDE. ST. JOHN DOES NOT DO ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT. THEY DON'T SEND AN OFFICER OUT.

THE COUNTY COULD OPT TO DO THAT AND CREATE A MECHANISM WHERE THEY ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT COMPLYING.

>> THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT UNTIL THEY ARE FOUND OUT.

>> LET'S SEE. I'M SORRY I CAN UNDERSTAND MY WRITING. THAT'S IT.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

>> MY COMMENT. MCCORMICK.

WE HAD A FLAG BUSINESS SITE, A ROADSIDE BUSINESS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. WHEN I RESEARCHED IT, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, NATURALLY DOES NOT HAVE A LICENSE IN CLAY COUNTY, BUT HE IS NOT EVEN REGISTERED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. WHO IS OPERATING IN CLICK COUNTY. WHAT ARE THEY DOING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA. I HAVE HAD REPORTS FROM CONSTITUENTS THINK THERE'S A GUY CHECKING OUT MY ROOM.

WHAT ROOFING COMPANY IS IT? I DON'T THINK WE ARE SERVING OUR CONSTITUENTS CORRECTLY IF ANYONE COULD COME AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND WE DON'T CARE. HOWEVER, IF WE DON'T HAVE TEETH AND IT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE IT.

AND THAT'S THE WAY THE NEXT POLITIES TO IT.

I DON'T KNOW. I FEEL STRONGLY IN BOTH AREAS.

>> AT THIS POINT WE DON'T HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY BUSINESSES WE HAVE IN CLAY COUNTY? WE HAD PROBABLY HAVE LESS THAN WHAT THEY HAVEN'T ST. JOHNS COUNTY.

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>> MY QUESTION IS, I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT LEVEL WE DECIDE BUSINESS TAX OR BUSINESS LICENSE WOULD COST AN INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS THAT WOULD DETERMINE THE REVENUE.

BUT MY CONCERN IS HOW MUCH WILL THAT GENERATE AND COST US AND VERIFIED BENEFITS BENEFITS IF YOU WILL, ARE THEY WORTH IT.

THERE IS A SITUATION IN OSCEOLA COUNTY WITH KASUMI AND I THINK 192 IS THE DESIGNATION THEY TAKE SOME OF THAT AND THEY MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR GRANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO. IT DOES HELP IN TERMS OF PUTTING A PLAN TOGETHER AND ADDING AN ADVISORY PANEL THAT TAKES A LOOK

AT IT. >> I I THINK IT IS TIME WE HAVE THAT. WHEN I CALLED MY STARTED MY BUSINESS I SENT THIS IS WHAT I AM DOING.

HOW MUCH IS THE BUSINESS LICENSE.

I DIDN'T EVEN GET MY BUSINESS START UPS GOING TO GO TO JACKSONVILLE AND I NEVER OPENED UP THERE.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE A NOTE NAOMI. >> I THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE I AM SENSITIVE THAT THE BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITIES WOULD PAY MORE BUT THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING MORE, IN THIS CASE, I'M NOT THINKING IT WOULD BE $100.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN AN EXTRA $40 MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME IF WE DO IT TO A POINT WHERE ST. JOHNS LOOK LIKE THEY HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON THE DIFFERENT LEVELS, THAT MAY BE THE WAY TO GO.

BUT I LIKE THE SIMPLICITY OF ONE FIGURE RATHER THAN HAVING SIX DIFFERENT RATES. I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD TO SEE HOW IT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

>> THIS AFTERNOON WE HAD A MEETING AND ONE OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE FROM MY CONSTITUENTS WAS THE AVAILABILITY OF HEALTHCARE SERVICE. IN THIS AREA.

IN FACT MANY CONSTITUENTS SAY THEY VALUE CLAY COUNTY AND THE FACT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO GO DOWNTOWN FOR ANY MEDICAL SERVICE. BUT WHEN I ASKED THEM WHICH MEDICAL SERVICES ARE PROVIDED, NOBODY KNOWS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE SO WE CAN MARKET OUR VALUE.

THIS WOULD PROVIDE A REGISTRATION OF BUSINESSES SO THAT WE KNOW AND WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT SUBSIDIES AND ONE WAS TO A CAR WASH AND SOMEONE SAID WHY IS THAT WE HAVE TOO MANY ALREADY. BUT THAT IS ONLY A PERCEPTION.

THIS WOULD PROVIDE DATA FOR US TO DRIVE A LOT OF THE PROCESES IN THE COUNTY. ANYWAY, IT IS A SHORTCOMING.

WE DON'T KNOW. >> I DON'T FEEL THAT IT'S A BIG MONEYMAKER, PERSONALLY I THINK WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT'S HERE AND THAT IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE HERE FOR, TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

IT WAS NICE NOT TO DEAL WITH IT WHEN I OPEN MY BUSINESS BUT $50,

IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. >> THINKING ABOUT IT FROM THE BUSINESS OWNERS PERSPECTIVE, WHY.

>> IF YOU ARE AN EXISTING BUSINESS OWNER, YOU WANT JOBS TO COMP YOU WANT ME A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TO PAY INTO SOMETHING SO YOU CAN INCENTIVIZE NEW BUSINESSES THAT MAY OR MAY

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NOT COMPETE AGAINST ME AND TOOK COMMISSIONER RENNINGER POINTS WE ARE NOT VERIFYING IF THEY HAVE INSURANCE OR A BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU RATING, IT SEEMS LIKE IF YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP ON THE WEBSITE THEY ARE A BUSINESS AND WE ARE ENDORSING THEM, ORIGINALLY I SAID I DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS AND I PAY MY $25 EVERY YEAR END I GET A PIECE OF PAPER THAT I HANG ON THE WALL. THAT IS IT.

I DON'T GET ANYTHING FOR IT. IT'S NOT LIKE THE CITY DOES ANYTHING FOR ME FOR IT, I GET NOTHING, I PAY ADDITIONAL TAXES, A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TAXES, AND I REALLY GET NOTHING FOR IT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE A MONEY GRAB AND I WOULD SAY FOR WHAT. FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, OR PEOPLE WHO WATCH ONLINE, WHAT ARE THEY GETTING FOR PAYING THIS TO US ASIDE FROM US KNOWING THEY ARE THERE.

WHAT WILL WE DO WITH THIS INFORMATION.

>> WHEN YOU ARE A CONSUMER IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND OUT IF THESE ARE PEOPLE YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH.

SILVER CREEK COMMUNITY I HAVE HEARD OF MULTIPLE BUSINESSES THERE. PEOPLE ARE UPSET BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO DEAL WITH THEM YOU HAVE TO KNOW THEY ARE REPUTABLE PEOPLE FURTHER THAN JUST THIS LIST.

>> I THINK KNOWING THE BUSINESSES AND IT'S IMPORTANT, WE HAVE THESE INCUBATOR FACILITIES AND STARTING UP BUSINESSES WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEY ASKED FOR.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE MOTIVATING FACTOR BUT IT GIVES US AN AVENUE TO ENHANCE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF BUSINESS ACTIVITIES OUT OF THE BUSINESS SECTOR WHICH IF YOU HAD OTHER BUSINESSES TO DEAL WITH IT WITH HELP YOUR BUSINESS.

I FALL BACK TO THE DEAL WHERE THERE IS A GARAGE ON FIRE AND THE FIREMAN CHARGES IN THERE AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE.

THIS WAY THEY CAN REGISTER HAZARDOUS PRODUCTS THAT THEY CAP TO BE AWARE OF. WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS THE

ANSWER. >> YOU ARE GETTING INTO ENFORCEMENT. REGISTERING HAZARDOUS MATERIALS

IS NOT ON HERE. >> I SEE THIS AS A LOT OF WORK FOR STAFF AND WHAT IS THE GAIN. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THAT TELLS ME ANYTHING WE CAN TELL OUR CONSTITUENTS THEY ARE GETTING EXCEPT FUTURE BUSINESSES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME OUT OF

CLAY COUNTY. >> I GET CALLS ABOUT JOE BLOW.

IS THERE A WAY TO CHECK AND SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH

THAT. >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO CERTIFIED THERE IN THE CORRECT ZONING AND REQUIRED TO BE LICENSED BY THE

STATE. >> WHAT CHANGES THAT THE GOVERNMENT MAKE ABOUT PEOPLE RUNNING BUSINESSES OUT OF THEIR

HOME. >> WE CAN'T RESTRICT THAT BUT

THERE ARE LIMITATIONS. >> IS A GARAGE WON OF THEM?

>> IT WOULD BE WITH RESPECT TO PEOPLE COMING.

>> I HAVE BEEN ASKED THAT VERY QUESTION.

I GOT A PHONE CALL FROM A GENTLEMAN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND HE HAS TO HE SHOULD TALK TO AND.

>> I DIDN'T INTERVENE BUT I WAS WONDERING.

>> THE STATUE IS VERY BROAD. >> THE NEIGHBOR HAD A CAR REPAIR GARAGE BUYING HIM AND HE WANTED TO REPORT IT AS A COMPLAINT SO I GAVE HIM THEIR PHONE NUMBER BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE A PROBLEM. HE MAY BECOME AN ANGRY NEIGHBOR.

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>> THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE CHANGE THAT LAST YEAR.

>> DOES THAT PUT A DIFFERENT LIGHT ON THAT AS WELL.

>> WHAT DO THEY DO OUT OF THEIR HOMES?

>> DOES THE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLY TO THE MARY KAY LADY, THIS GETS INTO A LOT OF, MANY PEOPLE DOES IT APPLY TO.

>> ALL OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES HAVE IT,.

>> EVERY MUNICIPALITY AS A. IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO SEE WHAT THEY PUT IN TERMS OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE COVERED.

I FOR ONE THINK BUSINESSES CAN TAKE CONFIDENCE AND WE KNOW BUSINESSES AROUND THE CORNER ARE DOING THE SAME.

RATHER THAN WE HAVE SIX PEOPLE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD DOING CAR STUFF. DO YOU COLLECT YOUR SALES TAX DO YOU DO ALL OF THAT STUFF. THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT WITH THE BUSINESS TAX. THEN WE CAN GO TO THE PERSON SAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE AND YOU ARE NOT INCORPORATED AND YOU DON'T HAVE A DOR NUMBER YOU CAN'T OPERATE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A REAL BUSINESS.

EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE STATUTE AND THEY CAN OPERATE OUT OF THEIR HOME BUT THEY REALLY CAN'T.

>> MOVING RIGHT ALONG. I GUESS WHAT WE ARE INTO RIGHT

NOW, DO WE HAVE STAFF. >> DO YOU WANT US TO PROCEED ON THIS AS AN ORDINANCE, HOW DO YOU WANT STAFF TO PROCEED?

>> I AM A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT BUT I THINK, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR, AND WHO IT APPLIES TO AND

WHO IT DOESN'T. >> I'M GOOD WITH TAKING IT TO

THE NEXT STEP. >> THIS IS VERY CONFUSING.

CONTRACTORS 18 BUCKS. >> THAT IS JUST HOW THEY DID IT.

THAT IS HOW THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK DOES IT.

I WOULD SAY WE TAKE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU AND YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO DO ONE FLAT FEE OR HAVE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT LEVELS.

A LOT ARE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OR SIZE OF THE BUSINESS. WE WILL BRING YOU BACK SOMETHING AND YOU CAN GIVE US GUIDANCE. REGARDLESS IT DOES NOT TAKE A FACT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THE TAX COLLECTOR.

>> WHAT ABOUT SOMEONE COOKING OUT OF THEIR FRONT YARD.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE THOUGHTS THAT WENT INTO THE FEES EVEN IF IT'S MINOR. BUT I AM GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF

MOVING IT. >> THEY ARE OPERATING AT A DIFFERENT COUNTY. YOU CAN'T HAVE A DIFFERENT

LICENSE. >> IF THEY HAVE A LOCATION HERE.

>> IF THEY HAVE TO PAY, THAT SEEMS BACKWARDS.

THEY'RE PAYING THE STATE FOR THEIR LICENSE AND CHARGING MORE TO HAVE A BUSINESS, SO LIKE A COSMETOLOGIST, HAS TO PAY FOR HER LICENSE TO THE STATE AND THEM MORE MONEY, THEN A PAINTER.

SHE WOULD PAY THE COUNTY SEASON. >> BUT MORE MONEY THAN A PAINTER

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WHO PAINTS HOUSES. >> THAT WILL DEPENDENT ON HOW

YOU CATEGORIZE WHAT YOU CHARGE. >> A PROFESSIONAL LICENSE.

IT WILL BECOME SOMETHING BASED ON ADJACENT COUNTIES AND THE

MUNICIPALITIES. >> GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT STEP.

[10.  Roadway Design Changes - Bonded Transportation Program and Impact Fee Funding]

>> NUMBER TEN. ROADWAY DESIGN CHANGE.

TELL US HOW GOOD IT WILL BE. >> HALFWAY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HERE WITH ME THIS EVENING IS CARLESS CAMPOS FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE BOARD, THE MAJORITY WERE OUT SICK, AND I DID WATCH FROM HOME ON THE TV AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU YOU DID A COMMENDABLE JOB.

BASED ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS, BASED ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE COST FOR THE RUSSELL ROAD REALIGNMENT.

THE RULE TO THIS IS THE NEW PROJECT ON COUNTY ROAD 218.

ON PROJECT THREE AT THE ROAD, THEY WILL COUNTY ROAD 209P INTO A QUADRANT INTERSECTION. IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS WORK THEY WILL CHANGE THE ROAD BECAUSE SECTION.

MEANING, THIS WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PROJECT TO THE WEST.

PROJECT NUMBER THREE WHICH IS THE REST OF RUSSELL ROAD TO THE SOUTH. ALL WHILE AVOIDING IMPACT ON THE CORRIDOR. THE ENGINEERING PORTION FOR THIS WORK IS 315,000. WHILE THERE PORTION IS 95,000.

THE ROUNDABOUT COUNTY ROAD 315 AND 315B IS PROJECTS ESCAPE THE INTERSECTION. OUR DESIGNER WILL FINISH THE DESIGN FOR THAT ROUNDABOUT BASED ON THE STUDY PROVIDED.

THIS IS AT THE COST LISTED. TO SUMMARIZE THE ROUNDABOUT THEY HAVE A SAFETY RATING AND A LOWER LONG-TERM COST AND A LOWER PEAK HOUR DELAY. COUNTY ROAD 218 IMPACT FEE WORK IS A NEW PROJECT. THERE WE GO.

THIS NEW WORK STARTS AT THE WEST IN.

THIS IS NEAR THE AVENUE. THIS WILL AND AT THE SPENCER ROAD. IS A 1 MILE ROAD OR 1 MILE ROAD SECTION. CURRENTLY 4.4 MILLION WITH IMPACT FEES. OF THAT WE ARE ASKING WTI TO PERFORM FULL AND REWORKED TO DEVELOP PLANS, THIS IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS. AND IDENTIFY IMPACTS TO THE RIGHT AWAY AS LONG AS A PAWN SITE REPORT AND DEVELOP THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANS AVAILABLE.

WGS PORTION IS 1 MILLION PLUS. IN SUMMARY WE ARE ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ROUNDABOUT STUDY.

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THE COUNTY ROAD URBAN SECTION WITH THE FINAL DESIGN FOR THE ROUNDABOUT. ADDING A NEW PROJECT FROM SPENCER LANE IMPACTED BY THESE. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO MODIFY THE BUDGET TO STAY WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM AND PEERING BACK TO THE BOARD MEETING FOR BOARD APPROVAL FOR EACH PART. WITH THAT I WILL TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> ARE YOU SAYING YOU WILL DO THIS AND LATER PUT IN THE ROUNDABOUT?

>> INTERVIEW LOOK TO THE CENTER TO THE MIDDLE THE SHADED AREA YOU WILL SEE THE YELLOW SWOOSH THAT IS CONNECTING TO SANDRIDGE AND 209P WILL CONTINUE EAST FROM THERE.

>> WE HAVE TO DO THAT FIRST BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE DONE ANYWAY

EVEN IF THERE IS NO ROUNDABOUT? >> PART OF THE REQUEST IS TO DO THAT AND SINCE THERE'S NO ROAD, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT SURVEYED AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE PROPERTY IN THE WOMEN'S TO MAKE THAT ROAD COMPATIBLE WITH THE COST-REDUCTION.

>> THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD ALSO BE THERE?

>> WE WILL DO A STUDY TO SEE IF IT WILL IF NOT WE WILL STICK WITH A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE TOOL 9B JUST 500 FEET SOUTH OF THERE.

>> WE HAD A MEETING BEFORE ABOUT THE 315 NEW ROAD.

WE WERE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE LIVING ON THE ROAD AS FAR AS HOW THEY WOULD GET OUT.

>> THERE WERE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON HOW THEY MAYFIELD A CUL-DE-SAC DID YOU FIGURE IT OUT?

>> THIS IS THE CONNECTOR. WE HAVE NOT AWARDED THAT COMPONENT YET. AS FAR AS THE ALIGNMENT, THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN DESIGNATED OR DEFINED AS FAR AS HAVING A CUL-DE-SAC. WHAT HAS BEEN DEFINED, WHERE THE CONNECTOR CROSSES 315, THEY WILL HAVE ACCESS INTO THE LANE AND BASICALLY GETTING OFF THE CONNECTOR GOING NORTH DOWN 350 AND IS IT TAKES A HARD TURN TO THE EAST, THAT IS WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC WOULD BE. THERE WOULD BE MAY BE A RECONNECTION OF THE 315 ON THE FAR EAST END OF THE SOLUTION.

>> WE HAVE A TOWNHALL. >> IT WOULD BE AN OPTION.

>> DOWN TOWARDS GERMANY GLENVIEW WERE WORRIED ABOUT KIDS HANGING

OUT THERE. >> THAT IS WHERE, SINCE WE HAVEN'T ISSUED THAT COMPONENT, THERE IS OPTION SET UP A CUL-DE-SAC WE WOULD TIE THE DRIVEWAYS IN.

OR IN THE -- THE WAY THE ROUNDABOUT GOES THROUGH HERE.

>> RUSSELL ROAD AND TO ZERO NINE.

>> 350,000 TO DESIGN IT? THEY WILL BUILD A ROUNDABOUT

THERE? >> TOOL 9B, THE FIRST PART IS TO DO THE STUDY IF A ROUNDABOUT WOULD WORK THERE.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE DOLLARS AND IT INCLUDES THE ABILITY TO GO ON THE PROPERTY AND THE WETLAND SPECIES.

>> THIS IS JUST THE DESIGN STUDY?

>> NO CONSTRUCTION. >> WHAT DO WE THINK THE CONSTRUCTION DELTA IS BETWEEN THE QUADRANT AND THE ROUNDABOUT?

>> IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE MORE OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS YOU COME TO

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THE INTERSECTION YOU'RE NOT TAKING IT.

BUT FOR A ROUND ABOUT IT COULD TAKE MORE AND I WOULD BE THE ADDITIONAL COST BUT LONG-TERM COST, MAINTENANCE COSTS, WHATEVER YOU WOULD NORMALLY SPEND ON THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE SIGNAL ANYMORE.

ALSO LONG-TERM COSTS FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT WHETHER TRUCKING OR VEHICLES THAT MOVE THROUGH THE INTERSECTION THEY'RE NOT WAITING. ALSO FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, YOU DON'T HAVE THE TYPICAL T-BONE OR AND ON.

TYPICALLY IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT THEY ARE AT A MUCH LOWER SPEED

THAN HIGH-SPEED. >> I HOPE WHEN WE NEGOTIATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THERE, THROUGH THE UNBILLABLE WETLAND AREA THAT IS IN THE COST FOR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> FIRST WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN.

BUT WE CAN'T SAY IT UNTIL WE GET THERE.

>> I THINK THEY NEED TO BE A TEAM PLAYER.

SECONDLY, THE REQUEST FROM THE CITIZEN IS NOT ON THE 218 PAP, THE WIDENING, THERE WAS A REQUEST MADE, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CROSSWALK FOR A MAKEUP PARK THAT GOES TO THE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET AND SINCE WE ARE WINDING IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SAFETY MEASURES CAN BE PUT INTO PLACE, BUT THERE WAS A BOY KILLED THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN TO THE FLASHING WHEN PEOPLE COME UP TO CROSS, OR IF THERE'S SOME MECHANISM WE CAN PROVIDE FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS. THE CHILDREN LIVE AND PLAY IN

THE AREA. >> WITH THE CROSSWALK, THIS WILL BRING IT UP TO STANDARDS WITH LIGHTING.

ALSO WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS, TRAFFIC WILL BE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS AND A PLACE TO GET OUT OF THE WAY OF TRAFFIC

COMING. >> THEY WILL ACROSS ONE SIDE AND THEN PRESS ANOTHER BUTTON TO CROSS AGAIN.

>> THE FINAL DESIGN IS NOT BEEN COMPLETED BUT IN MY MIND YOU PUSH THE BUTTON TO WALK ACROSS. BUT WHEN THE LIGHTS FLASH, FOR

ACTIUM AN ISLAND OF REFUGEE. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE DO CAP TO ALLOW ACCESS WE HAVE TO ALLOW ACCESS.

THAT WOULD GO INTO A CUL-DE-SAC. THIS SOLUTION, WOULD ACTUALLY TAKE YOU SOUTHEAST AND EVENTUALLY EASED INTO THE TOOL

NINE B INTERSECTION. >> WE THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE PROPERTY. THE VILLAGE CENTER, YOU WOULD

HAVE TO TURN TO GO BACK,. >> YOU WOULD ACCESS IT FROM 209, OR YOU WOULD COME THROUGH THE SOLUTION GO DOWN.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ADJUSTING THE BUDGET

ACCORDINGLY. >> WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE ALL

BETTER. >> SO ARE OUR FAMILIES.

>> OLD BUSINESS NUMBER 11. DONATION AND SPONSORSHIP POLICY.

[11.  Donation and Sponsorship Policy (M. Mosley)]

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>> I LIVE OFF OF THE ROSE AROUND ABOUT COULD CREATE A NIGHTMARE IN TRAFFIC. IT ALREADY DOES WHEN YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT. IT TAKES THEM FOREVER TO GET UP TO SPEED. IF THEY ARE IN A ROUNDABOUT,

JUST AN OBSERVATION. >> MY NAME IS MEGHAN MOSTLY WITH THE GRANTS DIVISION. WEEK BRIEF THIS POLICY AT THE JANUARY 25 WORKSHOP WITH THE INTENT TO PRODUCE A POLICY THAT PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK TO RECEIVE DONATIONS AND SPONSORSHIPS.

WE TOOK COMMISSIONER FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE FINAL DRAFT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND MADE THE FOLLOWING ADJUSTMENTS. WE DID ADJUST THE APPROVAL THRESHOLD TO UNDER $25,000. ANYTHING GREATER THAN THAT WOULD COME FOR REVIEW OR RECOMMEND FOR NEGOTIATION.

WE ALSO REFINED OUR DEFINITION OF RIGHTS TO MAKE CLEAR INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE RIGHTS AND THIRDLY WE ALSO ADDED ONTO THE DEFINITION PHILANTHROPIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO INCLUDE GIVING AND PLANNED GIVING.

WE GIVE SOME EXAMPLES AND THE POLICY IS NOT A COMPLETE LIST BUT THEY DO INCLUDE THINGS LIKE LIFE INSURANCE PERSONAL PROPERTY RETIREMENT PLANS AND THINGS LIKE CHARITABLE GIFT ANNUITIES.

THAT IS THE SUMMARY OF THE UPDATES.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> HAVE A COMMENT. >> THAT'S WHAT THE POLICY IS.

WE HAVE A STIPULATION THAT THE COMMISSIONER CAN NAME.

>> THIS IS TO GARNER DONATIONS AND SPONSORSHIPS FROM THE PUBLIC. I SEE IT WITH THE COMMISSIONER NAMING THEIR FAVORITE FOOTBALL TEAM.

IT DOESN'T GARNER THE DONATION PART, THERE'S NO DONATION.

YOU'RE NOT SPONSORING ANYTHING. IT IS COUNTER TO WHAT THE POLICY

IS DESIGNED TO DO. >> BEFORE WE HAVE A SPONSOR WE WILL HAVE A FACILITY AND WILL WE CALLED IT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NAME FOR IT. >> JUST LIKE THESE ARE THINGS THAT SOMEONE MAY COME ALONG AND THEY MAY WANT TO SPONSOR IT AND THEN WE WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION.

BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE WE HAVE TO HAVE A MECHANISM TO NAME SOMETHING. THAT IS WHAT I THINK IT IS DOING MAKING THE PROVISION POSSIBLE. OTHERWISE HOW DO YOU DO THAT.

>> THE COUNTY DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE A NAMING POLICY.

SOMEONE COMES TO THE BOARD AND SAY WE WANT TO NAME NEPTUNE PARK AND IF THE COMMISSIONER DESIRES AND WE NEED ANOTHER POLICY FOR NAMING FACILITIES, WE CAN GO THAT ROUTE BUT IT SEEMED LIKE THE LOGICAL PLACE TO PUT IT. IT WILL EITHER BE NAMED BY THE

BOARD OR BY A DONATION. >> OUR DEFINITION THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD FOR

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CONSIDERATION. WE ARE CALLING IT THE DONATION.

>> I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH IT. I HAVE BEEN TO CONCERTS AT THE ARENA WHEN YOU HEAR THEM SAY IT WE ARE LOOKING FOR OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE AND WHY WOULD WE PASS UP THE REVENUE EVEN IN JACKSONVILLE. THE FOOTBALL STADIUM AND PEOPLE REFERS TO IT AS THE BANK. IT BECOMES SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE

KNOW AND I THINK ECONOMICAL. >> I THINK IN THIS DAY AND AGE WHERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR REVENUE, THIS CAN BE A PROACTIVE WAY TO DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO GENERATE THE FUNDS.

AT THIS POINT LET'S GET IT STARTED WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO WORRY ABOUT THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE TO SPEND IT.

>> WE HAVE TWO PARKS IN OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE ROAD THEREON. WHAT COULD WE GET FOR NAMING THEM SOMETHING ELSE THAT SOMEONE WOULD PAY THE MONEY FOR?

>> THIS IS AN IDEA. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY THAT WE DONATE TO THAT PROGRAM, THEY ALREADY DO.

IF WE INSTITUTIONALIZE IT AND MAKE THE COMMUNITY AWARE I THINK

YOU WILL GET DONORS. >> IF THE THOUGHT IS TO RESTRUCTURE IT TO HAVE IT LIKE THAT MEGHAN I CAN WORK IT I BRING IT BACK TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

>> WE ARE ALL IN FOR YOU TO DO IT NOW.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IT CARRIES 5-0.

[12.  Community Redevelopment Area - City of Green Cove Springs (S. Kennedy)]

⌞> OKAY NUMBER 12 COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT.

>> THAT WAS A MOTION TO APPROVE THE POLICY AS WELL AS THE

RESOLUTION. >> VERY PERCEPTIVE COURTNEY.

SOMETIMES I STAY AHEAD OF THAT ( INDISCERNIBLE ).

>> I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE MAYORS PRESENT WITH US AND I.

THIS IS A NEW AND IMPROVED CRA PRESENTATION.

I CHANGED THE FRONT PAGE. THE SYMBOLIC NATURE OF THAT.

THERE IS A REASON. THE PIECES GOING TOGETHER WHICH REPRESENT ONLY THE COUNTY BUT VARIOUS JURISDICTIONS IN THE STATE AND WHATEVER ELSE AND COMING TOGETHER TO MAKE A SOLID

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PRESENTATION AND PROGRAM. AS YOU ALL KNOW FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, STAFF I WILL GO THROUGH THIS, AT A QUICK RATE SINCE EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE PREVIOUS INFORMATION.

THERE'S A LITTLE MORE HERE BUT NONE OF THE MEAT OF THE PRESENTATION HAS CHANGED TO ANY DEGREE.

THE PURPOSE OF CRA, WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME AREAS.

REDUCTION PROVISION OF CRIME AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

PROVIDING NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE AND CREATING JOB OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CRA. I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, THEY HAD A COMMENT ABOUT SLUM OR LIGHT.

IN REALITY, IT IS NOT A COMMUNITY IS JUST A CERTAIN AREA THAT IS IMPACTED. AT THIS POINT I WAS GOING TO PUT THE MAP THAT I SENT OUT AND GAVE DO YOU BUT IF YOU TAKE THAT AND TRIED TO SHRINK IT DOWN, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE ANY OF IT. THAT IS WHY I DIDN'T BUT I'M ASSUMING THE COPIES THAT YOU HAD WERE SUFFICIENT.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? BENEFITS OF THE CRA, IT TRANSFORMS SPACES AND REVITALIZES PLACES AND I THINK ABOUT THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE TALLAHASSEE AREA OVER THERE THAT WAS TRANSFORMED, AND THE REVITALIZATION THAT TAKES PLACE, I THINK IT IS RELATIVE TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD ABOUT REVENUES. THE REVENUES THAT WILL GENERATE FOR EVERY 1 DOLLAR PER CITY AND COUNTY WOULD HAVE AND THE PRIVATE INVESTMENT COMES IN. THAT IS A RETURN THAT I THINK MOST EVERYONE WOULD BE WILL -- WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE WITH THEIR INVESTMENTS. IT PUTS PEOPLE BACK TO WORK.

I USED TO CALL IT MY DEVELOPMENT EQUATION.

OF YOU HAVE INVESTMENTS, RETAIL SERVICES, HOUSING AND THEN IT STARTS OVER AGAIN AS YOU DEVELOP DIFFERENT AREAS.

THE LAST ITEM WOULD BE REVENUE FROM BIG PROJECTS.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT BUT LARGE PROJECTS WOULD BE CAPABLE OF BEING BONDED.

THE RETURN AS I MENTIONED ON THE SLIDE BEFORE.

PUBLIC FUNDS 19-1. THIS NUMBER CAME FROM A STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2013 BY THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ACT.

THOSE ARE DEFENDABLE NUMBERS, AGAIN THE PREVIOUS RESULTS DON'T INDICATE THE FUTURE RESULTS, BUT IT IS A GOOD SOLID NUMBER THAT CAME. AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT LOSING OR GIVING UP FUNDS YOU ARE JUST REDIRECT DURING THE FUNDS FOR SPECIAL PURPOSES. THE THIRD ONE ON THAT, REPEATING SOME OF THESE. CITY AND COUNTY WOULD MAINTAIN THE FROZEN PROPERTY VALUES. WHAT YOU HAVE NOW FROM ALL OF CONTINUE THE GROWTH IN THAT AREA OR EXPANSION AND NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA IS WHAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE TRUST FUND.

I WAS ABLE TO TRACK THIS SPIRIT THESE ARE ACCUMULATIVE NUMBERS.

WE MAY NOT HAVE EVERY ONE OF THE CATEGORIES, THESE WERE NUMBERS

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THT RESULTED WITH THE GAS TAX. THE AREA WE LOOKED AT WAS A 12% INCREASE. IT WAS A 30% INCREASE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES DEVELOP WITHIN THE CRA AND THOSE THAT DEVELOPED OUTSIDE. THE PROPERTIES AROUND THE AREA GREW OR INCREASED 39% SO THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF HAVING THE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON. THE PROJECTED FUNDS, I HEADED ON A BIGGER SHEATH THE LAST TIME. I TRIED TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO SMALLER INCREMENTS. IF YOU COME DOWN FOR NUMBERS, FROM THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN, THAT 3% GROWTH WOULD YIELD 3.8 MILLION OVER THE TERM OF THE CRA.

YOU CAN SEE HOW IT LOOKS. IF YOU GO WITH ANOTHER SCENARIO, GO DOWN TO THE LAST NUMBER ON THE FAR RIGHT COLUMN -- NUMBER.

THIS WOULD BE JUST FROM GROWTH. THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THE SAME THING. IF YOU FACTOR IN NEW ITEMS AND NEW EXPANSIONS THAT NUMBER WOULD BE MUCH HIGHER.

I WOULD RATHER LOOK AT IT CONSERVATIVELY THEN SOME NUMBER THAT IS NOT DEFENDABLE. THE SAMPLE PROJECTS, I WOULD LIKE TO REFER TO THIS MORE AS THE CLAY GRIECO CRA INCENTIVE FOR COMING ACROSS AS GRIECO CRA. BECAUSE OF SEVERAL REASONS.

NUMBER ONE WE HAVE INCLUDED A LOT OF THE AREA, AND IT INCLUDES ALL OF THE WAY UP TO THE JAIL. THE COUNTY PROPERTIES COULD BE ELIGIBLE TO HAVE SAMPLE PROJECTS IN THE AREA.

THEY HAVE BEEN DEFINED. IT'S A PARTNERSHIP.

FLOOD CONTROL INITIATIVES SPIRIT BOTH STORMWATER RELATED INITIATIVES SPIRIT AND MY REFERENCE LISTS PRESENTATION THEY HAVE FUNDS AND THEIR NUMBERS ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN OURS. NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, I KNOW WE ARE INTERESTED. SIDEWALKS AND STREET DEVELOPMENT AND GRANTS AND LOANS FROM THE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE STRUCTURE, AGAIN NOT MUCH ON THE PAGE BECAUSE THAT COMES AFTER WE GET DOWN THE ROAD A BIT.

BUT THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE IT WOULD BE GOVERNED AS ONE OF THOSE FIVE. AND THE BYLAWS WOULD BE DEVELOPED TO THE ADVISORY BOARD. THE TERMS AND TERM LIMITS WOULD COME AFTER AS WELL. THE TASK THAT ARE PART OF THE PROCESS, IT EXPLAINS A TAD MORE. BOTH PARTIES WILL AGREE IN CONCEPT TO PROCEED WITH THE PROCESS, THE PROCESS REQUIRES EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE. THE EXPECTATION, AND THE

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RESOLUTION THE FIRST STEP THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BY STATUTE IS THE FINDING AND WE CAN DO THAT AND WE WILL DO THAT AND IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY AS WELL. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.

FINDING A NECESSITY WILL NOT BE A PROBLEM.

WE HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT. SO, THAT PART WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE. AND IT LISTS THREE AREAS, ONE OR MORE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS.

THIS FINDING HAS TO BE DONE AND PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU ALL TO TAKE ACTION ON. MORE OFFICIAL ACTION, OF A RESOLUTION, COMMITTING WOULD BE REQUESTED.

AT THIS POINT GOING FORWARD, IT'S A LITTLE BEFORE, BUT THE REQUESTS WOULD BE AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, AND EVERYONE WILL BE KEPT UP TO SPEED IN THE PROCESS. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT FINDING THE NECESSITY? EVERYTHING WILL BE THERE.

>> IF WE CAN HAVE STEVE FINISH IT OUT THEN WE CAN ROUNDED OUT.

>> THE NEXT ONE, I THINK THERE WAS A REQUESTS, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK% LIKE IF WE WERE TO DO IT NOW.

THIS EXAMPLE, IT STARTS APRIL 19, AND I THINK THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO MATCH UP WITH SOME OF YOUR MEETINGS.

WE WILL I HAVE IT AND THEN WE WILL USE IT AS AN EXAMPLE DATE.

AS SOON AS WE HAVE IT WE CAN INJECTED.

THEN, BOOK COMMUNITY WHICH ALREADY HAVE, WE WOULD PROVIDE ECONOMIC IMPACT, YOU HAVE SEEN THE COMPOSITION MORE.

THEN YOU HAVE TIME TO REACT. AND THEN WITHIN THAT THE COUNTY SHALL APPROVE OR DENY OR WHATEVER, I DON'T LIKE LOOKING AT THE DENY WORD. I THINK AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE DONE IT SUFFICIENTLY. THEN YOU WOULD PROVIDE THE REDEVELOPMENT TRANSPORT CAP PUTS IT INTO PERSPECTIVE.

IN SUMMARY, SPECIFICALLY FOCUSING ON POLICY FOR THE CITY.

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THIS WOULD BE WHERE WE COULD CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AND I APPRECIATE THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE REPORTING.

TRANSPARENCY WOULD BE MAINTAINED.

I WILL WE CAN FEEL WE ARE GOING IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION WHERE WE GET CONFIRMATION, THAT THIS IS A DEAL WE WILL PURSUE.

>> IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE LOOKED AT THIS SPIRIT WHAT IS THE MAKEUP. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MAKEUP WILL BE. OTHER INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE TO TALK THIS WOULD BRING OUT A SKILL SET OR YOU'RE ASKING A LOT FOR A VOLUNTEER. MAKING A LOT OF POLICY DECISIONS

>> >> I HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF CITIZENS, THEY FEEL LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF CONCEPTUAL TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT. BUT WITH THE GATEWAY TO CLAY, WE HAVEN'T SPENT MONEY AS THE COUNTY.

SO THE QUESTION FROM CITIZENS WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA WHAT ARE THE NEGATIVES BEING PART OF THIS.

>> IT IS FUTURE TAX REVENUE WITHIN THE AREA AND IF TERESA COULD BRING ENOUGH WE COULD LOOK AT THAT AGAIN.

IT FREEZES THE TAXES AND REVENUES WITHIN THE AREA THAT ARE DEPICTED THAT WOULD RELET A CERTAIN DATE.

>> FINDING THE NECESSITY. THAT IS A BURDEN, WE HADN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT IF WE COULD MAKE IT IN TIME.

BUT LOOKING AT IT I ASKED HIM FOR AN EXAMPLE SO THE BOARD HAD AN IDEA. LOOKING AT IT WHAT IS THE COUNTY GIVING UP IT IS THE FUTURE REVENUES.

I WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS DURING MY COMMENTS.

I HAD, VICTORIA HAD TO MAPS, SO THE GATEWAY TO CLAY, THAT ONE

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THERE I HAVE TO GET COORDINATION.

IT ENCOMPASSES THE AREA. ALL OF THIS WITH THEN THE MUNICIPALITY. ALL OF THESE ALREADY, SO, IF WE DID CREATED, DO YOU REALLY NEED TO DO THAT.

, YOU COULD TALK ABOUT IT AS A BOARD AND VOTE ON IT REALISTICALLY. LOOKING AT THAT AND TALKING TO OTHERS, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN. WHY WOULD WE FREEZE THOSE REVENUES. , I THINK, IT WAS A HARD CONCEPT TO SAY. YOU HAVE THESE INITIATIVES AND THESE EFFORTS, HOW DOES THAT BRING PEOPLE IN.

FOOD TRUCK FRIDAY AND OTHER EVENTS, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME HERE. THEY MAY HAVE A NEGATIVE FEELING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK.

THAT ALSO GOALS AND IMPROVES THE AREA AND YOU SAY WHAT ARE THE OTHER BENEFITS AND SURROUNDING AREAS WITHIN THE PROPERTIES.

THERE ARE BENEFITS THAT ARE LONG-LASTING WITH THE ROAD.

HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

THE BOTTOM LINE, FUTURE REVENUES WITHIN THE AREA IT IS DEPICTED.

>> THEN I HAD ANOTHER ONE. >> I THINK WE WOULD LOOK FOR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.

OBVIOUSLY STEVE HAS HOMEWORK TO DO.

>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. >> YOUR TAX ON THIS AREA, THEY

ARE IN IT TOGETHER. >> THE OTHER QUESTION WAS, BY APPROVING THIS WITH THE BOARD GIVE UP ANY DECISION-MAKING

CAPABILITIES. >> WHEN IT CAME TO PARTICULAR PROJECTS, STEVE AND I TALKED ABOUT TO HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD AND IT WAS A BIG THING I FELT.

OBVIOUSLY IF HE'S WILLING TO DISCUSS THE OTHER POSITIONS TOO, THAT BENEFITS US BOTH. YOU WILL HAVE A MAIN PERSON THERE AND OTHER MEMBERS PERHAPS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.

HE OWES THAT. I THINK WITH THAT THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS, IT'S A HARD JOB.

THEY'RE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT WILL YOU DO NEXT WITH THE MONEY AND YOU WANTED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. WHAT IS THE NEXT THING YOU WOULD

DO. >> I THINK THE PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE COUNTY GIVING UP TAX REVENUE, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FUTURE

REVENUES. >> IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD BE GIVING UP $20 MILLION OVER 30 YEARS.

IS THAT RIGHT. >> AND WILL RANGE FROM WHATEVER

IT IS. >>

>> PHILOSOPHICALLY, IT MAKES SENSE.

WHAT PROJECTS WE WILL BE LOOKING AT.

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THAT WAS THE CONCERN THAT WAS BROUGHT TO ME.

IT WASN'T ABOUT NOT LIKING GREEN COVE SPRINGS.

IT WAS YOU TALK A LOT ABOUT THE PROJECTS.

BUT ASKING THE CITIZENS TO GIVE UP REVENUE THAT YOU ARE HAVING

CONVERSATIONS ABOUT BRINGING. >> I'M GLAD TO HEAR THE COMMISSIONERS SAY BAD, BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE FORMED WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD.

WE HAD NO INPUT WHATSOEVER. I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSIONER TO

TALK TO. >>

>> THEY HAVE DONE AMAZING THINGS IN THE AREA.

I THINK IT WOULD. WE AREN'T GIVING UP AND IT IS ONLY DELAYING THE COLLECTION OF DURING THE PROCESS, ANYTHING THAT GROWS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA, IT DOESN'T AFFECT.

>> OF THIS WASN'T DONE THIS LIKELY WOULDN'T HAPPEN.

TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE THE COUNCIL FROM THE BOARD, THEY COULD NOT AS A GOVERNING BODY DECIDE BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO PULL THE ACTIVITY INTO THE CITY ACTIVITY, AND HAVING IT SEPARATE AND ITS OWN IDENTITY. I THINK IT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PARTNERSHIP AND GIVING UP THE MONIES, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, IN KEYSTONE PROPPER AND CLAY COUNTY INC. THAT USE A LOT

OF YOUR FACILITIES. >> I THINK WE WILL GIVE UP CONTROL. WE WILL HAVE SOMEONE ON THE

BOARD. >> THESE WERE QUESTIONS ASKED TO

ME. >> CAN YOU BRING UP THE PROJECTED FUNDS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT OF THE BUNNIES WILL BE OR NOT IT WILL TAKE YOU TIME TO GET ENOUGH INTO YOUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT, JUST TO GET IT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND IF THIS

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GAME WAS FOR COUNTY REVENUES AND CITY REVENUES OF WHERE THEY ARE FROZEN. HE PREDICTED WHERE IT WOULD BE

AND THAT. >> JUST MAKE A QUICK POINT.

WE COLLECTIVELY, THE CRA HAS ESTABLISHED AND COLLECTIVELY IT CAN BE REQUESTED BY THE GOVERNING BOARD TO, IF IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE IT HAS PROVIDED A SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED AND A IT IS NOT AN ABSOLUTE OBLIGATION THAT IT WILL BE LOOKED AT AGAIN UNTIL SUNSET. THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

IF YOU START EVERYONE AND TO THE POINT OF WHOEVER WAS ASKING,

THERE WILL BE A FIVE. >> A COMMISSIONER SHALL RECEIVE

NO COMPENSATION FOR EXPENSES. >> HE PROJECTED 30 IN HIS

CALCULATIONS. >> WHAT IS THE CONTRACTUAL TERM OF THE AGREEMENT, WHATEVER THE BOARD'S PLEASURE IS AND WHATEVER WE I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE 50. MORE THAN 40 OR 30.

THIS WOULD BE THE OUTSIDE. IT CAN BE RENEWED IF YOU WANT, BUT AGAIN, YOU COULD MAKE THOSE TERMINATION FEAR WEEKEND SUNSET THIS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD BRING BACK TO THE

ENTITIES. >> I THINK THIS WAS IN ITS 12TH YEAR. SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE

12 YEARS. >> IT WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW IF THEY BONDED. I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PRESENTATION ON THEIR CRA AND LEARN MORE IF

WE COULD FIND OUT MORE. >> MOVING ALONG.

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>> THANK YOU MAYOR. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND PLAYING PICKLE BALL. >> NUMBER 13.

[13.  Presentation of proposed Mortgage, Note and Assignment of Mortgage related to the Housing Finance Authority and Vestcor for the Molly Crossing Project (C. Grimm/T. Sumner)]

>> NUMBER 13 IS AN CONNECTION WITH AN AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNTY HAS WITH THE FINANCE AUTHORITY WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING IS THEY ARE AT THE POINT WHERE THEY ARE BEING FORWARD TO CLOSE ON THE LOAN. WE WILL BE CONTRIBUTING 300 THERE WILL BE A NOTE AND MORTGAGE THAT'S EXECUTED BY MOLLY CROSSINGS. THEY ARE ASKING FOR US TO DO AN ASSIGNMENT BACK TO THE HOUSING FINANCE AUTHORITY.

>> SO, THE DOCUMENTS AND FRONT OF YOU, PROVES THAT.

BASICALLY THE FUNDS THAT THE COUNTY IS PERFORMING.

THE MECHANICS IS REALLY DICTATED THROUGH THE STATE FINANCING APPLICATION PROCESS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS REALLY AN FHA LOAN BLOWN THROUGH THE COUNTY FACT THROUGH THE FHA THAT WILL BE FUNDED BY THE FHA. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS?

>> THERE WERE NO CHANGES MADE BUT JUST TO BE CLEARED THE MORTGAGE AND THE NOTE THERE WAS A REVISED LOAN AMOUNT THEN THE DOCUMENTS. IT WAS $11.7 MILLION.

BUT -- IT IS 11.7 AND WHAT WAS IN YOUR DOCUMENTS WAS

$11.5 MILLION. >> AND THEY PLAN TO CLOSE ON THURSDAY SO THEY NEED THE ASSIGNMENT.

>> THEY NEED THAT TO PERFECTION WEIGHT THAT.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED IT CARRIES 5-0.

[14.  Mobility Fee Credit Agreement for Road Right of Way, Stormwater Management Facility Easements and Construction Re: Robinson Ranch (C. Grimm)]

>> NUMBER 14. NUMBER 14 IS A MOBILITY FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT IN CONNECTION WITH A PROJECT KNOWN AS ROBINSON RANCH AND IT ACTUALLY HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

IT IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE. IT INVOLVES, MOBILITY FEE CREDIT WITH DONATIONS THAT THE PROJECTS PROVIDE FOR STORMWATER FACILITIES FOR THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.

IT PROVIDES SATISFACTION OF THE CREDITS IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY IN CONNECTION WITH THE ROAD THAT THEY ARE DONATING TO THE COUNTY AND WE ARE PROVIDING FUNDS OR MOBILITY FEE CREDIT BACK IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT. THERE IS ONE COMPONENT OF THE AGREEMENT AND CONNECTION WITH THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM WHERE IN ADDITION TO THE EASEMENTS THEY ARE PROVIDING US, IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROGRAM FOR SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THOSE NOT THROUGH MOBILITY FEE CREDITS BUT CASH AND THAT IS IN THE AMOUNT OF LITTLE OVER $51,000. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE DO HAVE JASON HERE FOR THE DEVELOPER AND THE WHOLE TEAM FOR THE BOND AND TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MY QUESTION IS AT THE END OF ALL OF THIS, THE 21 PAGES AND I READ THEM ALL THERE ARE A LOT OF LEGAL WORDS. AT THE END OF IT WHAT MOBILITY FEES WILL THEY HAVE IN EXCESS OF ALL OF THIS?

>> IN EXCESS OF WHAT THEY NEED FOR THEIR ACTUAL PROJECT? I AM NOT SURE HOW MANY HOUSES YOU WILL HAVE.

>> 348 TIMES THEY WILL HAVE NO ACCESS AT ALL.

THEY WILL BE REALLY SHORT. >> UNLESS YOU REDUCE YOUR

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MOBILITY CREDITS. >> SO I WASN'T SURE SO WE WORK WELL WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GET THE ROAD ON THE BACK OF THEIR

PROPERTY. >> WE APPRECIATE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING HERE FOR LONG TIME.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND HOW MANY ACRES ARE YOU

BUILDING? >> THE PROJECT IS 200 ACRES.

>> 5-0. >> THE DEVELOPABLE ACREAGE, IS

123 ACRES. >> SO PRETTY FOR US, SO GORGEOUS. THE LAND IS VERY PRETTY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE WILL TAKE A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[15.  FY 2021/2022 Budget Adjustment & Resolution (R. Kantor)]

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE.

>> AND I AM THE BUDGET MANAGER. THIS PROMISES TO THINGS BOTH CARRYOVER OF BUDGET FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO FORD EXPLORES FOR HL VEHICLES. THE VEHICLES WERE ORDERED LAST SUMMER. AND THEY ARE READY FOR PICK UP NOW. THE SECOND ONE ALIGNS THE BUDGET WITH THE CURRENT CONTROL CONTRACT WHICH RECENTLY WENT

INTO EFFECT. >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

[16.  Resolution Authorizing the County Manager to Submit the FY22 First Responders Comprehensive Addiction and Recovery Support Services Act Grant Application and Corresponding Registration in the eRA Commons Reporting Portal (M. Mosley)]

>> THAT WAS 1-2. >> RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE COUNTY MANAGER TO SUBMIT FIRST RESPONDERS COMPREHENSIVE ADDICTION AND RECOVERY SUPPORT SERVICES ACT GRANT APPLICATION.

>> IT IS A MOUTHFUL. BUT THIS ITEM IS TO ADMINISTRATIVELY STREAMLINE THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

WE DO BRING THIS TO THE BOARD IN JANUARY.

IT WAS UNBUDGETED WITH ABOVE MEDICINE PROGRAM.

SO THE APPLICATION WAS APPROVED ON THE 25TH.

HOWEVER WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THERE IS A NEW APPLICATION REQUIREMENT TO ALSO REGISTER AND THE REPORTING PORTAL.

THEY ARE REQUIRING THE SAME PERSON WHO SIGNS THE APPLICATION IS THE SAME PERSON WHO REGISTER THE PORTAL.

SO THIS RESOLUTION WILL ALLOW STAFF TO MANAGE THE REPORTING RATHER THAN PUT THAT RESPONSIBILITY ON THE CHAIR SAYING IT COULD CHANGE FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

WE DID PROVIDE A DRAFT TO REVIEW AND THEY SAID COMMONLY COUNTY MANAGERS ARE SIGNED ON THE APPLICATION.

THAT IS WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM.

>> COUNTY MANAGERS ON THE HOOK? >> YOU HAVE THE CHAIRMAN HERE.

SO WILL THAT BE CHANGE? >> THAT IS THE RESOLUTION TO

AUTHORIZE IT. >> THIS JUST GIVES THE COUNTY MANAGER OF THE AUTHORITY TO DO THE REGISTRATION PORTAL.

TANGIBLE FOR APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. ANY OPPOSED, IT CARRIES 5-0.

>> NUMBER 17. >> NUMBER 17 AND 18 REALLY GO TO

[17.  Approval of Agreement between FDOT, Clay County, and Clay Electric Cooperative, Inc., regarding Subordination of Utility Interests for CR 220 Quadrant Intersection (Grimm/Smith)]

[18.  Approval of Agreement between FDOT, Clay County, and Clay County Utility Authority, regarding Subordination of Utility Interests for CR 220 Quadrant Intersection (Grimm/Smith)]

GATHER. THESE ARE FDOT REQUIREMENTS AND AGREEMENTS THAT ARE IN CONNECTION WITH THE QUADRANT INTERSECTION. AS RICHARD WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN. CLAY ELECTRIC AND THE COUNTY HAVE RIGHT AWAY SPIRIT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO WORK OUT WITH CLAY

[03:15:03]

ELECTRIC OR CCA HOW TO MANEUVER AND WE HAVE TO RELOCATE THIS IS A REQUIREMENT WITH DOT THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COST.

THE THE DOT BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT, THEY ARE DOING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND IN CONNECTION THIS IS JUST THE PROCEDURE TO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY IF THEY REQUIRE THE PROPERTY, AND WE HAVE TO MOVE THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF 17 AND 18, CAN WE DO THAT?

>> S. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[19.  Second Amendment to Agreement #2019/2020-200 with the Department of Economic Opportunity (DEO) Regarding the Clay County Youth Sports Complex (K. Smith)]

ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSE, SAYING. IT CARRIES.

>> NUMBER 19. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS ITEM IS SIMPLY A TIME EXTENSION ON THE AGREEMENT WITH DEL FOR THE YOUTH SPORTS COMPLEX.

THE CURRENT AGREEMENT SAYS ALL WORK HAS TO BE COMPLETED BY JUNS

WORK TO BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBE. >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> WILL WE MAKE DECEMBER 31? >> SR.

THAT IS THE GOAL. >> I DON'T THINK WE WILL MAKE JUNE 30 SO WE ARE HAPPY FOR THIS EXTENSION.

>> I THINK THEY PROMISED US MID-NOVEMBER.

THAT IS EVEN BETTER. >> MORE PROMISES.%

>> ANY OTHERS ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE OPPOSE, IT CARRIES 5-0.

[20.  Sports Event Grant Request - MotoSurf World Cup (K. Morgan)]

>> NUMBER 20 SPORTS GRANT REQUEST.

>> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, THE TDC IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD THEY UNANIMOUSLY VOTED FOR THIS, IT IS A SPORTS GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $40,000 TO FUND A MOTOSURF EVENT WHICH IS MOTORIZED SURFBOARDS.

IT WILL TAKE PLACE ON APRIL 22-24TH AT KEYSTONE BEACH AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. THE MAJORITY OF THE GRANT WILL GO TOWARDS FUNDING AND MARKETING FOR CBSSPORTS FOR THE

INTERNATIONAL EVENT. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THEY CAN DODGE THE ALLIGATOR. >> CUT HIM IN HALF.

>> IS PRETTY BIG BUT HE DOESN'T BOTHER ANYONE.

>> THERE IS ALSO MOTOR SKATEBOARDS.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT EVENTS. >> THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE MORE DANGEROUS THAN MOTOSURF, I THINK.

I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

, DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. OPPOSE, IT CARRIES 5-0.

[21.  Parks & Recreation Online Reservation System - Newbook Payment Gateway with Chosen Payments Application and Agreement (T. Nagle/K. Morgan)]

>> THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 21 PARKS AND RECREATION ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEM.

AND SHE IS BACK. >> I AM BACK.

WE ARE ACTUALLY ASKING, WE ARE SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEW BOOK PAYMENT GATEWAY MERCHANT PROCESSING. BASICALLY THE GATEWAY FOR US TO UTILIZE ONLINE RESERVATIONS. THE REASON WE ARE BRINGING THIS TO YOU, IT GOES AGAINST THE PURCHASING LEVEL FOR RENEWALS IN THE AGREEMENT. IT IS STANDARD PROCEDURE FOR ELECTRONIC PAYMENT GATEWAYS AND CREDIT CARD GATEWAYS TO HAVE ONE AGREEMENT THAT THEY USE WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO ADAPT JUST FOR US. THAT IS WHY WE ARE BRINGING IT

TO YOU TODAY. >> CAN WE BID THIS?

>> WE HAVE DONE THIS WITH OTHER CREDIT CARD GATE I USE.

>> I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SAME WAY, WAS IT NOT?

>> WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS YOU ARE APPROVING THE USE OF A CREDIT

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CARD GATEWAY BECAUSE IF WE STOP USING IF WE STOP USING IT.

CREDIT CARD COMPANIES WILL NOT LET YOU SAY YOU CAN USE IT FOR ONE YEAR. BASICALLY IF YOU USE IT YOU PAY FOR THE SERVICES. I'VE WE TALKED ABOUT MOST ARE GOING TO PROPRIETARY GATEWAYS BECAUSE EVERYONE WANTS TO BE IN THE PAYMENT BUSINESS NOW. SO THIS IS IDENTICAL TO YOUR

STRIPE AGREEMENT. >> HOW DO WE PICK THESE GUYS.

>> HOW DO WE PICK THE GATEWAY. IS GOVERNED BY THE SOFTWARE.

THIS IS WHAT WE PICK FOR THE PARK.

IT WAS UNDERNEATH THE THRESHOLD TO COME TO THE BOARD FOR USING A RESERVATION SYSTEM. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> COUNTY STAFF PICK THIS QUICK. >> WE PICK THEM AS A RESERVATION SYSTEM THAT WOULD WORK FOR THE CAMPGROUNDS AND YOUR FACILITY.

WE HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A CAMPGROUND WE HAVE TO RUN AND VERY FEW SOFTWARE LET YOU DO CAMPGROUND AND PAVILIONS.

WE PICK THE SOFTWARE AND IMPLEMENTED AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WERE MULTIPLE GATEWAYS WE COULD USE, BUT OF SOFTWARE CHANGE WITH COVID-19 THEY WENT TO THEIR GATEWAY AND SAID THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE TO USE IN ORDER TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE.

>> WHAT IS THIS WORK TO THEM? >> WHAT IS IT WORTH TO THEM? DO THEY MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE FEELS THAT'S RIGHT FEES, HOW

MUCH DO YOU ANTICIPATE PER YEAR. >> FROM THIS PROCESS WE WON'T PAY ANYTHING IT IS A PASS-THROUGH CHARGE TO THE CONSUMER. YOU GET AN -- AV ON YOUR CREDIT CARD AND THAT PASSES THROUGH TO THE CONSUMER.

>> HOW MUCH WILL THE CONSUMER PAY FOR IT?

>> 3% I THINK IS THE STANDARD. THREE OR 3.5% IS WHAT MOST OF

THEM CHARGE. >> THIS IS PRETTY STANDARD.

WHEN I RAN MY BUSINESS AND WE DID PARTY RESERVATIONS THEY DID THE SAME AND THAT IS THE WAY WORK.

WHEN YOU MADE THE RESERVATION, YOU COULD ALSO BRING UP THE CHARGE FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT, AND IT WORKS TOGETHER.

THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT. >> WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST? HAS IT BEEN MANUAL?

>> I WOULD IMAGINE WE WOULD COLLECT MORE FEES THEN YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE CALLING TO MAKE THE RESERVATION AND NEVER DROPPING

OFF THE CHECK. >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOUR OFFICE BUT GETTING AWAY FROM TAKING CHECKS AND THE POTENTIAL FOR BOUNCE CHECK, AND HOW DOES THAT WORK, WE CAN GO TO A SYSTEM WHERE IT IS INTEGRATED DIRECTLY WITH THE PAYMENT GATEWAY AND THAT MEANS THERE'S LESS CHANCE FOR TYPOS OR MISTAKES, EVERYTHING FLOWS THROUGH BETTER.

IT DOES INCREASE THEIR WORKLOAD. BUT IT DOES STREAMLINE THEIR

APPLICATIONS. >> QUESTIONS.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE YOUR.

>> PROMOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

[22.  Approval of Supplemental Agreement No. 2 to Agreement #2018/2019-127 with the Florida Department of Transportation, Regarding CR209 Safety Improvements Project and approval of Budget Amendment Resolution (R. Smith)]

TRANSIT EXPERIENCE IT CARRIES 5-0.

NUMBER 22. >> RICHARD SMITH CLAY COUNTY.

THIS IS A CHANGE ORDER FOR THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENT ON COUNTY ROAD 209. THE SPECIFIC CHANGE ORDER INVOLVES THE DEPTH OF THE GUARD RAIL.

YOU KNOW HOW THE DROP-OFF IS PRETTY SEVERE ALONG THE SHOULDER THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE FIXING THE OLD BRIDGE.

THE DESIGNER DID NOT HAVE LONG ENOUGH STAKES, SO THEY HAD TO EXTEND IT. FDOT HAS APPROVED IT AND NOW THEY ARE SENDING US THE MONEY TO PAY FOR IT.

>> QUESTIONS? >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. , WE ARE BUYING $10,000

WORTH OF STAKES? >> IT IS THE STEEL COLUMN.

WE ARE NOT BUYING THEM. WE ARE JUST RECEIVING THE MONEY.

CRACK WE ARE BUYING THEM WITH THEIR MONEY.

>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S SEE.

[CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]

[03:25:01]

INDICATE APPROVAL BY SAYING AYE. PROPOSED SAME.

IT CARRIES 5-0. TAKE ALL RIGHT CONSTITUTIONAL

OFFICERS. >> SHE IS REPRESENTING.

>> JUST ONE SMALL THING I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION IN CASE YOU GET PHONE CALLS OR IF THE COUNTY MANAGER GETS A PHONE CALL. WE ISSUE THE OPT OUT PAYMENTS FOR MEDICAL FOR RETIREES. AND, FOR SOME REASON SOMETHING HAPPENED AT WELLS FARGO WHERE THEY FLAGGED THE SYSTEM AND SAID THAT THEY COULD NOT CASH THE CHECKS THEY WERE FOR DEPOSIT ONLY. SO BETWEEN AMY AND I WE RECEIVED SEVERAL PHONE CALLS FROM FRUSTRATED RETIREES.

AMY IS WORKING WITH OUR CONTACTS TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.

IT WAS NOT INITIATED BY OUR OFFICE.

JUST IN CASE IT TRICKLES BACK TO YOU WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON IT AND I THINK IT WILL BE RESOLVED IN NO TIME.

I THINK YOU ONLY HAVE A FEW LEFT OUT THERE.

MAYBE NINE CHECKS. SO, FYI, IN CASE YOU GET ANY

CALLS. >> COUNTY ATTORNEY.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> COUNTY MANAGER. >> CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS, TO ITEMS. THE SECOND ONE MAY BE LENGTHY.

FIRST SAW I WANT TO SAY VICTORIA, HAS SET UP IN THE TEAM HAS SET UP AN APPLICATION FOR ASSISTANCE COVERING MOBILE HOME REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENT. THESE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE STARTING MARCH 1. WE WILL ALSO ADVERTISE AND I WANTED TO MAKE IT PUBLIC. ON A FIRST-COME BASIS WITH INDIVIDUALS WITH THE LESS THAN THE MEDIAN INCOME.

IT WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE OFFICE, PAPER COPIES FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T GO ONLINE. OR ONLINE AT CLICK OF -- CLAY GLOVE.COM. YOU CAN ALSO E-MAIL CLAY CARES THAT IS BE A RES ACKLEY THE.COM. TAKE NEXT LINE WANTED TO REVIEW NOW THAT WE HAVE HAD OUR SECOND WORKSHOP.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A THUMBNAIL OF WHERE WE STAND.

LET'S GO BACK TO JANUARY 25. ANNALISA AS TYPED UP A LIST.

THIS WILL HAVE THE TIMELINES AVAILABLE.

BUT THESE ITEMS SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, 11 AND 12 WERE COVERED AND ROUND OUT THE ACTION ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE BEING ANIMAL ORDINANCES WHICH WE WILL BRING BACK.

I CAN'T CHECK ON IT YET BUT MARCH 8.

UTILITY TAXPAYER SHOULD THERE BE A TIME IN THE FUTURE, WEEKEND DUST THAT ALL. BUT WE WON'T DO ANYTHING MORE ON UTILITY TAXPAYER WE DO HAVE TO GET SOME THINGS TOGETHER FOR THE DISCUSSION AND GIVE YOU THE NEXT STEPS.

MOST WILL HAPPEN AT THE BOARD MEETING.

JUST LOOKING AT THAT, WE CAN'T DO IT BEFORE OCTOBER 1 SO SOMETIME BETWEEN THEN I WOULD SAY THE NEXT STEP I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IS GIVING YOU MORE DATA ABOUT THAT AND A FOLLOW-UP MEETING AFTER THAT AND OBVIOUSLY COURTNEY WILL TAKE A LOOK.

THE NEXT ONE WAS DONATION AND SPONSORSHIP, THANK YOU FOR APPROVAL. COURTNEY WILL MAKE THE CHANGES

AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE

NAME? >> GOOD REPORT ON THAT.

OBVIOUSLY, THE HAMMER IS CONTROLLED BY THE BOARD.

IF THERE WAS A NAMING THE BOARD WOULD VOTE ON IT.

>> THIS WAS DONE AND MOVING FORWARD I VOW TO MATT TO ADHERE TO THE TIMELINE. I ALSO ASKED IF COUNSEL COULD COME UP WITH PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKING ON SO THEY COULD BRING THAT TO THE BOARD. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD OTHER ASSIGNMENTS AFTER THAT. THAT BEING SAID, SOME OF THE OTHER ITEMS WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF.

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HE TALKED ABOUT THE ANIMAL SHELTER STUDY.

WE TALKED ABOUT BROADBAND AND THE REVENUE TABLE.

THAT IS IT. A FEW MORE THINGS TO FINALIZE.

I FEEL LIKE WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THAT.

THE NEXT WORKSHOP, SO THE COMMUNITY KNOWS AND THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE HELD A WORKSHOP THIS MORNING THAT COVERED PLANNING AND ZONING TOPICS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING TOPICS ITEMS DISCUSSED WERE THE LAKE AS VERY FEES, MOBILITY FEES SUBSIDY FOR COMMERCIAL USES TREE PROTECTION STORMWATER PONDS, LOT SIZE AND AN UPDATE ON ARTICLE THREE AND ARTICLE SEVEN OF THE LPC.

ANYWHERE FROM APRIL -JULY AND THERE ARE DIFFERENT ONES THERE, WE WILL COME BACK WITH THESE AND I HAVE TAKEN NOTES ON WHAT IS NEEDED TO COMPLETE THOSE. WITH REGARD TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, MOVING FORWARD IT WAS JUST AN APPROVAL CONSENSUS, THE TEAM WILL PRODUCE THIS DOCUMENT TO BRIEF THE BOARD, BUT ALSO, I HAVE MY ACTION ON PUBLIC SAFETY FIRE ACTIONS, AND REALLY WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE STUDY TO GET A CONSENSUS.

ONCE WE GET THAT WE WILL LOOK AT AND CAPITALIZE ON PROPERTY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE OR REPURPOSE AND/OR TAKE A PARTICULAR LOCATION. WE WILL WIND UP ON A WAREHOUSE, AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE ON THAT ONE.

I THINK, DID I MISS ANY ON THAT? >> TWO QUESTIONS, I HOPE YOU'RE NOT JUST COMING WITH THE WAREHOUSE, AT SOME POINT YOU

HAVE A PLAN. >> I SAID THAT BECAUSE I WON'T BRING IT IF WE HAVE THE PLAN. JAMES THE SECOND THING IS, I KNOW TROY MENTIONED THE PART WITHOUT THE COMMENTS, IT IS A QUICK RUN FOR THE WORKDAY. COULD WE LOOK AT IT MORE OFTEN

THAN QUARTERLY. >> I THINK IT IS VALUABLE

INFORMATION. >> GO AHEAD.

>> THE ANSWER IS YES. BUT YES, MA'AM.

>> WE CAN DO IT AS LONG AS WE THE REST OF IT, CAN BE PULLED

OUT OF THE SYSTEM. >> I THINK IF WE GENERATE

QUESTIONS. >> WE WILL AT THIS TO OUR MONTHLY DISCUSSION EACH MONTH WE REVIEW THESE ETERNALLY FROM THE

STAFF. >> THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS, THIS IS WHAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE DOING AND WHAT THE TRAINING

DOES. >> THAT BRINGS US TO LETTERS

[LETTERS FOR ACTION]

LETTERS FOR ACTION. I GUESS WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT.

>> MAKE ABOVE MOTION TO ACCEPT. >> SECOND PAIR.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY

[LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION]

SAYING AYE. OPPOSED SAME, CARRIES 5-0.

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PUBLIC COMMENT. OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHO WANTS TO START.

>> I WILL BE GLAD TO START. >> MOVING TO THE END OF FEBRUARY THE WEATHER IS GETTING NICE SO A LOT OF OUTDOOR EVENTS WILL REAPPEAR. CERTAINLY ONE OF OUR SIGNIFICANT EVENTS EVERY YEAR HELD AT THE FAIRGROUNDS IS THE SCOTTISH GAMES AND FESTIVAL. 9:00 A.M. UNTIL 10:00 P.M. ON SATURDAY. I KNOW, OUR DOGS STILL COMPETING? WE HAVE OUR OWN EMPLOYEE OUT THERE. SO IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE SOMEONE THROWING A TELEPHONE POLE AROUND.

>> STAY OUT OF THE WAY. YOU CAN GET HURT OUT THERE.

IT'S ALWAYS FUN TO WATCH ATHLETES AND THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES ON. WE ARE EXPECTING A GOOD DAY WEATHERWISE, 12 OVER 22,000 PEOPLE SHOWED UP SATURDAY.

ALSO, A LITTLE SMALLER IN SCOPE BUT SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO CHECK OUT THE AGUSTA SAVAGE FESTIVAL.

THERE IS A NEW BUILDING OUT THERE THAT WILL BE A GREAT EVENT AS WELL. SO BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS IT REALLY KICKS OFF THE SPRING SEASON EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT INTO FURRING BUT THE TOURISM DEPARTMENT IS DOING A GREAT JOB KEEPING UP WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

I GOT AN E-MAIL ABOUT LATE PAYMENTS AND WORKDAY PAYMENT SYSTEM SPIRIT DOES THAT PREVAIL THROUGH OUR WHOLE PAYMENT SYSTEM

OR IS THAT AN ANOMALY. >> THE QUESTION IS, HOW MANY

OTHERS ARE LATE. >> I WANT TO ASK AMY TO COME UP AND ANSWER THE QUESTION. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH

CONVERSION ISSUES. >> WE ARE PROCESSING PAYMENT DAILY. YOU HAVE PROBABLY SAW THE LIST IS ARRANGED. WE ARE GETTING CAUGHT UP WITH PURCHASE ORDERS SPIRIT WE ARE GETTING CAUGHT UP WITH RECEIPTS AND THE INVOICES. WE HAVE HAD A BACKLOG THAT'S ON IT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

THE ONE THING THEY DON'T HAVE IS IN ITS TRACKING SYSTEM FOR US TO KNOW HOW FAR WE ARE BEHIND. BUT WE ARE PROCESSING THEM AS FAST AS WE CAN GET THEM IN. BUT WE ARE BEHIND.

WE WERE SHUT DOWN FOR ABOUT 3-4 WEEKS.

THEN THERE WAS A BIG LEARNING CURVE FOR THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE PROCESS CHANGE. PEOPLE USED TO GET THE PAPER INVOICES. NOW THEY ARE COMING IN AND THE COUNTY STAFF IS SUPPOSED TO PUT RECEIPTS IN THE SYSTEM SO IT'S BEEN A LEARNING PROCES BUT WE ARE GETTING THEM OUT.

MOST RUNS ARE ANYWHERE FROM 2-3 AND HALF MILLION AND IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS THEY HAVE BEEN IN THAT RANGE.

WE ARE GETTIN CAUGHT OUT. ANYONE THAT HAS ANY ISSUES, SEND THE DATA TO ME AND WE WILL DEFINITELY RESEARCH ANYTHING

THAT IS BACKLOG. >> IN MY FORMER LIFE WE CALLED IT ESTIMATED TIME OF REPAIR. WHEN WILL THIS PROCESS BE FIXED? WHEN CAN WE BE BACK TO NORMAL PROCESSING TIMES.

>> THAT IS A JOINT ISSUE BETWEEN THE STAFF HERE ALL OF THE ABOVE.

I CAN INPUT INVOICES ALL DAY LONG BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE B LATERALS OR RECEIPTS THEY WILL NOT GET PAID.

IT IS A JOINT PROCESS. >> IT'S DISTURBING WHEN WE GET E-MAILS THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING OUR BILLS.

>> WE ARE PAYING OUR BILLS. AND, BASICALLY WHEN WE GET AN

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IMPROVED -- AND APPROVED INVOICE, THE PURCHASES AND WITH THE INVOICE, THAT IS WHEN THE 30 DAY CLOCK ACTUALLY STARTS.

I KNOW THAT DOES NOT HELP VENDORS, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM, THERE ARE SOME INVOICES THAT I AM GETTING THAT ARE DATED BACK

TO DECEMBER. >> I THINK BOTH TEAMS ARE TRYING TO STREAMLINE THAT. ONCE IT GETS OVER TO HER OFFICE SHE HAS CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT SHE TO LOOK FORWARD TO PROCESS THE PAYMENT. I THINK THE TEAMS HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN DECREASE THE TIMEFRAME FROM WHEN IT COMES FROM A DEPARTMENT TO BE PAID BY FINANCE WITH THE RIGHT INFORMATION SO IT WON'T BE KICKBACK AND REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION AND WE CAN GET THE

VENDORS PAID. >> THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY AND THIS HAS HAPPENED THREE TIMES IN A WEEK, AND WITH THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

THOSE FOLKS DON'T HAVE THREE WEES OR FOUR WEEKS AWAY.

THEY ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEIR LANDLORD DOESN'T GET THE CHECK AND THEY ARE WAITING, THEY ARE OUT.

SO WE HAVE HAD THAT IN A FEW CASES ONE WITH DOWN PAYMENT, KATHY WAS LETTING PEOPLE STAY AT THE HOTEL AND THEN SENDING US THE BILLS AND WONDERING WHERE WAS IN TERMS OF PAYMENT.

I WOULD JUST ASK ON OUR SIDE OF THE FENCE THAT WE REACH OUT TO THE PEOPLE WERE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME AND WE CAN MAKE THE DETERMINATION AND IN SOME CASE AND, THE LANDLORD JUST NEEDED A CALL THEY HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND THE CHECK IS COMING, WE WILL GET YOU THE MONEY. THAT COULD BE THE CHOICE AND ONE WOMAN WHO CALLED WAS LOOKING FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE SHE LOST HER JOB DURING COVID-19 SHE WAS STAYING IN THE PARKS, AND HER SON HAD TO GO TO THE GRANDPARENTS, SHE WAS ON THE EDGE OR NOT KNOWING WHERE SHE WAS GOING TO TURN AND WE WERE ABLE TO SAVE HER HOME. PEOPLE DON'T WAIT ON RENTALS ANYMORE. I WOULD ASK OUR STAFF CAN WE GO THE EXTRA MEASURE UNTIL WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP AND MAKING SURE THAT E-MAILS AND PHONE CALLS ARE RETURNED SO WE GET A PROGRESS REPORT AND THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT LEFT STRANDED.

>> THIS E-MAIL SINCE WE HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR MONTHS AND NO ONE HAS RESPONDED. SOMEWHERE WE DROP BECAUSE THIS

IS NOT A WORKDAY CONVERSION BUT. >> THE WORKDAY CONVERSION IS THE CHECK IS IN THE SYSTEM BUT NO ONE HAS GOTTEN TO HER.

>> THERE ARE A FEW THINGS, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE CLEARLY, WHAT IS GOING ON AND WE WILL MAKE SURE IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH A DOWN PAYMENT WE COMMUNICATE THAT SO THEY CAN TAKE WHATEVER MEASURES THEY CAN DO TO MAKE SURE WE EXPEDITE THOSE AND PUT THEM AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.

THAT WAY THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THOSE INSTANCES.

>> AND JUST TO CLEAR UP THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING RENTAL ASSISTANCE REQUEST IN OUR INBOX DUE PROCESS.

>> IN OTHER WORDS KATHY IS NOT IN THERE.

>> IS IN THE PROCESS BUT AS SOON AS WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM GLORIOUS TEAM, WEAK AND PUT THEM THAT DAY AND PROCESS THE CHECKS

WE ARE. >> ARE WE TALKING RENTAL ASSISTANCE PAIN THE LANDLORD, PAYING THE ELECTRIC BILL AND THE CABLE BILL, KATHY IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER LENDER.

SHE'S OUR VENDOR AND THAT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN PAYING FOR A LAPTOP. SHE IS NOT A RENTER.

THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. >> THIS IS THE FIRST I HAVE HEARD OF THAT SITUATION. BUT WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO GET

THE PROBLEM SOLVED. >> MY CONCERN IS, I HAD A CALL LAST WEEK ABOUT EVICTION. A THREAT OF EVICTION AND I DID

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NOT REALIZE IT. I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ANOMALY BUT NOW MORE SYSTEMIC, SO WE REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

AND A PHONE CALL TO A FACILITY MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT.

WE REALLY NEED TO FIX THIS. >> IT MAY NOT SOUND THAT CRITICAL BUT ONCE WORD GETS OUT THAT THEY DON'T PAY BILLS, EVERYTHING WE PARTICLES UP BIG TIME.

LET'S GET THIS FIXED. PLEASE.

>> THE SECOND THING IS, IM STILL DISTURBED, AT THE LAST MEETING WE HAD THREE LIEN REDUCTIONS AND ALL THREE IN MY MIND ARE NOT CLEAR. I WANT TO AMPLIFY ONE IN PARTICULAR WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL, I WILL USE SOME TERMS HE WAS STEAMROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT. HIS CLAIM WAS HE DID NOT VIOLATE ANYTHING BUT WE CLAIMED HE DID, ANYWAY HE WAS SO DISTRAUGHT HE WOULD NOT EVEN EXPLAIN IT TO US IN CHAMBER.

I'VE BROUGHT HIM IN LAST WEEK AND INTERVIEWED HIM FOR AN HOUR, AND QUITE HONESTLY IM STILL CONFUSED.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ASK THE COMMISSIONER TO PASS THE AUDITOR TO DO A DEEP DIVE. WHAT HE EXPLAINED TO ME, THE PROBLEMS REACH FURTHER AND WIDER AND DEEPER THAN JUST A CODE VIOLATION. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE AUDITOR TO DO A DEEP DIVE TO SEE HOW IT TRANSPIRED, WHY DOES HE THINK HE HAD A PERMIT WHEN HE DIDN'T. I'M NOT EVEN SURE ANYMORE.

HE CLAIMS HE WASN'T THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND YET HE WAS AN EMPLOYEE. WHAT IS FACT AND WHAT IS FICTION IF WE CAN TELL. QUITE HONESTLY I'M NOT SURE.

YOU HAVE TO SEARCH RECORDS TO INVESTIGATE AND SOMETIMES, WHEN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ARE NOT FOLLOWED THERE'S NO RECORD.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IS HE AN INNOCENT VICTIM OR A VICTIM OF HIS OWN CHOICE. I WOULD LIKE THE AUDITOR TO DO A

DEEP DIVE ON THAT CASE. >> I'M OKAY WITH IT.

>> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE STAFF HERE THERE WAS A FIRST CLASS ACT, I TALKED TO REPRESENTATIVE GARRISON HE WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE EFFORT WE PUT FORTH REPRESENTING CLAY COUNTY. SO I WAS HONORED TO BE THERE AND IMPRESS. THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK. I KNOW ITI WAS HARD WORK.

SO, GOOD JOB. OTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS A

PERFECT DAY. >> IT WAS TALLAHASSEE.

A LOT OF POLITICIANS ARE TALKING.

>> THANK YOU. >> ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING GOD. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS CONCEPTUALLY BUT IT DID NOT COME OUT OF THE BROADBAND PROJECT BUT SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT REVENUE AS A COMMISSION.

THAT IS, USE OF COUNTY FACILITIES TO PUT ANY KIND OF COMMUNICATION TOWER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THE AUDITOR NEEDS TO LOOK AT OR IF WE NEED PURCHASING AND TROY TO SIT OUT -- SEND OUT A REQUEST.

ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PUT A TOWER ON COUNTY PROPERTY.

WE HAVE ONE PROPOSAL IT IS MY -- IT COULD GENERATE MONEY EACH

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MONTH THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMISSION.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO BUT IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD EVALUATE IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER PROJECTS WE ARE WORKING ON. IT WILL GIVE US MORE ACCESS TO SERVICES AND REVENUE TO THE COUNTY AT NO COST TO US.

>> I THINK SOME HAVE ALREADY CAPITALIZE ON THAT.

>> THE IDEA RESOURCE WOULD BE THE TOWER.

>> NOT A GOOD PLACE. >> VOTED NOT TO HAVE FLOWER PUTTING THEIR PART. WE HAVE KIND OF HONOR GOD.

BUT THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO THE TOWER.

BUT THAT'S GOOD. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW WE SHOULD

MOVE FORWARD. >> ME HAVE POLLS WHEREVER THEY

WANT TO PUT THEM. >> I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE PAYING

US ANYTHING ON DIVE. >> WITH 5G'S THEY CAN -- OUR

HANDS ARE TIED. >> I THINK WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS TALKING ABOUT IF YOU HAVE A FACILITY, IF SOMEONE SENT I WANT TO STICK AND INTENT ON TOP OF THIS BUILDING AND I WILL GIVE YOU MONEY TO PUT A TOWER INSIDE OF THE CLOCK TOWER, IS THAT SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WOULD BE WILLING TO LOOK AT OR DO THEY WANT TO LOOK AT IT. AND I WOULD DIFFER THAT TO KAREN OR COURTNEY. I WOULD SAY HERE ARE THE FACILITIES WHICH ONES CAN WE MAKE MONEY OFF OF.

>> I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. ALRIGHT I USED TO BE A BASEBALL MOTHER. AT THE PARK THERE 0 SELF-SERVICE. IF YOU END UP WITH A FLAT TIRE IN THE PARKING LOT YOU CANNOT CALL AAA OR YOUR HUSBAND.

AT ANY RATE, THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE OF A PLACE WHERE THEY MAY SAY THEY WILL PUT A TOWER ON THE CONCESSION STAND.

I KNOW THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT 5G AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW. I HAVE HAD A FEW RESIDENTS, THERE'S OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY, WE TALKED ABOUT IT ABOUT THAT'S NOT THE PROJECT WE CHOSE BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE SECOND ISN'T -- MECHANISM WITHOUT CAUSING TAXPAYERS MONEY.

>> WHAT I WAS THINKING, IT COULD PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARK MONEY, IT'S NOT NEW CONSTRUCTION, I DON'T KNOW.

>> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER ON HOW TO GO ABOUT IT.

I CAN TELL YOU IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY COMPANIES WHO WERE INTERESTED IN A PARCEL BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING WE HAD TO DO, THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE OTHER COMPANIES TO KNOW THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THAT SPOT. I DON'T KNOW YOUR IDEA OF OFFERING WHO WANTS TO COME IN THEY CAN.

>> WE CAN SEE WHERE THIS RESPONSE WOULD BE.

>> MOST OF THE TIME THIS IS PROPRIETARY THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION. YOU SEE EVERYTHING PUT OUT.

MOST OF THE TIME YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT AT&T AND VERIZON DOING WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. MOST OF THE TIME IT WILL BE THIRD PARTIES AND WILL PUT A TOWER UP AT LEAST THEIR SPACE TO

VERIZON OR SPRINT OR WHOEVER. >> I THINK ONE WAY TO GO FORWARD WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY WHERE THE LOCATION WOULD BE THEN WE WOULD PUT UP A TOLERANCING HEAVEN FORBID ANYONE --

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>> I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER CONDON A SONG ABOUT THE MODEL PRESENTED TO US, THEY BUILT A TOWER AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING IF YOU LEASE THE SPACE.

>> THE QUESTION WOULD BE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO RESEARCH THIS, THE THOUGHT WOULD BE, BECAUSE COURTNEY POINTED OUT I WANT TO PUT UNSPOTTED A, MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE PENCILS OF COMPETITION WHERE AS YOU SAY IT'S LIKE DO YOU WANT, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO RESEARCH TO FIND OUT

IF IT'S LEGAL. >> I THINK WE SHOULD BE OPEN TO WHATEVER OPPORTUNITIES EXIST. KNOWING WHAT I KNOW, THEY HAVE TOWERS WHERE YOU WANT TO PUT THEM.

I'M NOT SURE THAT I CAN GET TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT. THEY'RE PUTTING UP CELL TOWERS AND TREES, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A TREE AT ALL.

AND THE CAR DEALERSHIP. THEN THEY SAY NO YOU FULL ME.

DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THERE. I'M OPEN TO WHATEVER.

TRYING TO REACH THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO GET THEM INTERESTED OR NOT.

>> THE PROBLEM IS HOW WE SAY YES >>

>> YOU HAVE THREE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN.

KEYSTONE, THE BACKSIDE. RESIDENCE.

VENDORS CALLING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

IF WE DON'T GET A CALL SAYING WOULD YOU CONSIDER LEASING PROPERTY TO US. THEY DON'T WANT TO LEVEL WHAT THEY ARE DOING OR THEIR RATES, HOW TO GET THE BACKSIDE.

HOW TO GET TO THE INTERSECTION BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT'S COMING OUT THERE. THOSE ARE THE AREAS.

THOSE TOWERS DON'T HAVE THE SPACE WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THE

SYSTEM. >> ONE OTHER THING.

ON SATURDAY IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE SCOTTISH GAMES.

THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION IN THE KEYSTONE AREA WORKING WITH CLAY BEHAVIORAL. IT'S CALLED MORGAN'S HOUSE.

THERE WERE REALLY PHENOMENAL STORY TROY AND LISA ARE THE PASTORS THAT HAVE SAID ENOUGH. THEY HAVE A SITUATION WITH ONE OF THEIR DAUGHTERS WHO HAD A TRAGIC END TO HER LIFE AND WHAT THEY REALLY SAW IS THERE IS A GAP IN SERVICES.

WHEN SOMEONE NEEDS TREATMENT, AND BEFORE THEY GET BACK INTO SOCIETY THEY NEED MORE ASSISTANCE THAN JUST BEING OUT ON THEIR OWN. THE VISION IS MORGAN'S HOUSE MORGAN WAS THEIR DAUGHTER'S NAME.

AND THE FIRST MORGAN'S HOUSE HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED, AND IT IS BEHIND THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS CHURCH OF CHRIST.

THEY HAVE A GRAND OPENING ON SATURDAY FROM 11:00 A.M. UNTIL 1:00 P.M. THEY WILL HAVE A FOOD TRUCK.

THESE ARE TINY HOUSE MODULES, THEIR VISION IS TO ONE DAY HAVE

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A VILLAGE OF 6-8 OF THESE TINY HOUSES WHERE THESE WOMEN AND SO OFTEN THEIR CHILDREN CAN LIVE ALONE BUT HAVE SOMEONE ON THE PROPERTY TO PROVIDE EXTRA COUNSELING THEY ARE A NONPROFIT.

AT SOME POINT IT MAY COME BEFORE OUR COMMISSION TO CHANGE THE ZONING THEY HAVE CUP PROPERTIES. THEY WILL HAVE ONE FOR MEN IN THE TRANSITION POINT. BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO DO BETWEEN 11-1:00 P.M. IT MAY BE SOMETHING.

>> COME OUT AND SEE US AND THEN, ON SATURDAY, IT WILL COME TO THIS, THIS IS THE SECOND ANNUAL BLACK HISTORY POSSIBLE I GOT A CALL INVITING US TO COME TO THE PARADE IT IS THAT 11:00 A.M. AT PIERCE STATION PARK. SO, IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUN DAY.

THE LAST THING I HAVE IS, I HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN MY AREA THEY WANTED TO KNOW WHEN WE WOULD DISCUSS THE ROUNDABOUT AND I FIGURE THEY WOULD KNOW IT BUT THE ATTACHMENT IS NOT ONLINE AND SHE'S TELLING ME THE ATTACHMENTS ARE NOT THERE.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE ROUNDABOUT WAS BEING DISCUSSED BECAUSE IT

TALKED ABOUT. >> IT WAS BLANK.

>> WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK IT TO MAKE SURE, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS REMOVED BUT ALL OF THE ATTACHMENTS WERE THERE.

BUT IF THAT INDIVIDUAL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ROUNDABOUTS, WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO TALK, RICHARD AND I CAN SIT DOWN WITH

THEM. >> ( INDISCERNIBLE ) MAYBE I

WILL DO THAT. >> I WILL MAKE SURE THAT AND SINCE THOSE OUT. IF WE CAN GET THEIR CONTACT -- I WILL MAKE SURE THAT ED AND I GET THOSE OUT SO WE CAN GET THEIR

CONTACT INFORMATION. >> IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY WE GOT A LOT DONE. I JUST HAVE ONE THING, THE TPO THE FINAL LIST OF PROJECTS.

THE SELF-FUNDED FOR 2022. I THINK WE HAVE THREE PROJECTS ON HERE. THEN THE SECOND PAGE AT THE TOP IT IS A PRIORITY PROJECT AND IT IS UNFUNDED.

THIS WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR NEXT YEAR.

AT THE END, THESE ARE THE STUDIES WE PUT IN FOR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SELECTED.

I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS HERE. WITHOUT THAT AND NOTHING ELSE TO

ADD ANYONE? >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION?

>> I FORGOT TO ASK AND IT HAS BEEN OPEN ON MY HOME COMPUTER FOR TWO WEEKS. BUT, I GOT A PHONE CALL ABOUT% THE NEWS STATIONS HAD A U.S. BRIDGES AND THE MOST BRIDGES AT RISK LIST AND THERE ARE FOUR IN CLAY COUNTY THAT ARE ON THAT LIST. I CAN SCREENSHOT IT WHEN I GET HOME AND SEND IT, BUT TWO OF THEM ARE ON 220.

ONE OF THEM IS ON BLANDING BOULEVARD BUT THEY SAID THERE IS FEDERAL MONEY FOR THIS AND THE NEWS, I WENT BACK AND WATCH THE NEWS PIECE, IT WASN'T REAL CLEAR.

THEN THEY DIRECTED YOU TO THIS LIST AND YOU CAN SEARCH BY COUNTY AND YOU CAN SEE THE BRIDGES.

ALL OF YOUR BRIDGES ARE ON THERE BUT IT IS DIFFICULT TO INTERPRET. I DON'T KNOW IF NOT OUR NEXT MEETING WE CAN -- IF WE NEED TO DO AN ACTION IS A COMMISSION OR IF IT IS A CONCERN TO THE CITIZENS, EITHER WAY, THUMBS-UP OR THUMBS DOWN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I COULDN'T MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF IT EXCEPT THERE WERE FOUR

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BRIDGES ON THEIR. >> WE HAVE MANY BRIDGES THAT ARE DECLARED UNSAFE? EXCEPT THE ONE YOU POINTED OUT.

THE BRIDGE WE ARE TRYING TO GET --

>> CORRECT THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS SEVERELY WEIGHT RESTRICTED.

IT'S ODD THAT REPORT. IT WAS RANKED 40 GOOD WHICH MAKES YOU THINK, THANK GOD FOR MISSISSIPPI.

IT MAKES YOU THINK WE ARE THE FIFTH BEST.

IT'S FUNNY HOW THEY RANK THOSE THINGS.

I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN GEORGIA AND WE WERE 49 AND AGAIN MISSISSIPPI HELPS OUT. THAT WAS 49 OUT OF 50.

THE BRIDGES ARE ACTUALLY IN GREAT SHAPE.

THERE IS ONE ON 217 THAT WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT.

ONE ON 209 IS NOT GOOD. 220, THE BRIDGE ON BLACK CREEK, THAT IS BEING REPLACED. I THINK THAT WILL BE JUNE 24.

THE FISCAL YEAR 25 PLAN THAT IS BEING REPLACED.

I WILL CHECK ON THE FOURTH ONE. >> I WILL SEND IT OUT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO SEND IT TO YOU GUYS. THE LIST THAT THEY HAD.

>> REMEMBER THE INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, THAT IS ONE OF THE CATEGORIES WITH BRIDGES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY TO BE REBUILT AND IT HAD TO BE A BRIDGE AND TROUBLE TO USE THE MONEY SO THEY MAY HAVE PUT THE STORY TOGETHER UTILIZING THE REPORT AND IF IT'S IN THE DANGER ZONE THEY GET FEDERAL MONEY.

IT COULD'VE BEEN A SLOW NEWS DAY.

>> TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE NO UNSAFE BRIDGES OPEN IN CLAY

COUNTY. >> WE HAVE WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON BRIDGES WE HAVE POSTED ONE AND THE LAKE AS VERY AREA AND THEY WERE CHECKED. WHEN THEY ARE AN ISSUE THEY ARE CHECKED BY DOT EVERY SIX MONTHS. EVERY BRIDGE IS CHECKED EVERY TWO YEARS. THE ONES THAT HAVE CONCERNS AVENUE A ONE YEAR OR SIX MONTH INSPECTION TIMEFRAME, DEPENDING ON HOW SEVERE IT IS. THAT IS HOW WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE 20 THAT WE JUST MADE REPAIRS ON.

THAT CAME FROM AN INSPECTION REPORT.

>> CAN I CHANGE THE SUBJECT. THE ROUNDABOUT, THE LADY THAT CAME UP, THE WAY I THINK THE ROUNDABOUT WOULD KEEP THE

TRAFFIC MOVING, -- >> I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE A

GARBAGE TRUCK GOING REALLY FAST. >> I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T SEE WHY SHE THINKS IT WOULD BACK IT UP.

>> THE ONE EFFICIENCY WON'T BE IMPROVED YOU WON'T GO THROUGH THEIR AT 60 MILES PER HOUR. BELIEVE ME.

YOU KNOW THEY DO NOW. EVEN WHEN THE LIGHT IS UP AND YOU CATCHING AT THE RIGHT TIME, YOU DON'T HIT THE BRAKES.

>> THE TRAFFIC LIGHT MAKE BACK IT UP OR NOT THE ROUNDABOUT.

>> IT WILL KEEP MOVING AND IT WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT.

THE ACCIDENT WILL BE MINOR IF THEY HAPPEN.

IT IS JUST NEW. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THEM.

THE ONES WE HAVE ARE MORE DECORATIVE THAN EFFICIENT.

THIS ONE WILL BE EFFICIENT. >> THE PUBLIC HAS TO GET USED TO THE IDEA. I'VE BEEN PUSHING THIS FOR YEARS. THIS IS THE FIRST BREAK I'VE HAD IN YEARS. IN EUROPE THEY HAVE THEM

EVERYWHERE. >> THEY ARE DESIGNED FOR THE GARBAGE TRUCKS OF THE BUSES. THE 18 WHEELERS WILL GO THROUGH THEM. I MENTIONED YOU GET OFF ON 95 NEAR SAVANNA THERE ARE 2-3 EXITS WHERE YOU GET OFF OF THERE IS A LOVES TRUCK STOP. THERE'S MORE THAN SEDANS GOING THROUGH. HOURS WILL BE DESIGNED FOR THE BIG TRUCKS. WE ALLOW SOME OF THE BIGGEST 18 WHEELERS IN THE COUNTRY. WE WILL HAVE THE DESIGN FOR

THAT. >> THE ONE IN OAKLEAF WE HAVE AT THAT IN OPERATION FOR TEN YEARS NOW.

>> YES. >> IS PRETTY NEW AND WE DID SOME INVESTIGATION. I THINK WE DESTROYED A BICYCLE AND ANOTHER ONE.

THIS JUST TAKES DIDN'T USED TO YOU HAVE TO SORT OUT.

>> YOU DO HAVE TO SLOW DOWN. IT IS A TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE.

>> OKAY, WITHOUT FURTHER

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