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>> WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR SOMEY PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING FORY COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING MEETR FEBRUARY 1, 2022. BEFORE WE GED
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CAN I ASK EERVEG TO STAND AND RE PLEDGE WITH US PLEASE.>> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE). >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO BE GET STARTED HERE I'M JUST GOINGE SOME INTRODUCTIONS, SOME OF THEN THE ROOM HERE WITH US. MY NAMEH PUCK HA BAY.
IEMENT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD STARTING HERE ON MY RIGHT IS PLG COMMISSIONER PETE DAVIS. PLANNN NER BO NORTON. THE VICE CHAIR Y BRIDGMAN AND TO MY LEFT MIKER BE AND ON THE END IS LANCE ADDISONE REPRESENTS THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOT THESE MEETINGS AND IF HANNAH WOU SHOW THAT JOANN IS ABSENT IN THG PLEASE.
>> FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE BACKE HAVE HANNAH, SHE WILL BE TAKINGR MINUTES TODAY. OTHER PEOPLE WEN THE ROOM, WE HAVE OUR COUNTY AT, COURTNEY GRIMM AND ONE OF THE AT COUNT ANY ATTORNEY'S, CASSEY SMS HERE, WELCOME. ED LAYMAN WHO IS OUR PLANNING AG DIRECTOR IS HERE WITH US TODAY.E WHO ELSE. WE HAVE MIKE BROWN WR CHIEF OF ZONING AND I SIGH BETHD US TODAY. BETH CARSON WHO IS OF
PLANNER. ANDDY. >> DID I MISS ANYBODY?
>> AND OF COURSE AS ALWAYS KEEPE AND KEEPING US KEEP ORDER AT THE MEETINGS, WE HAVE DEPUTY SHERIFG TODAY.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN AY BOARD. WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONSE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COM THE DECISIONS MADE BY THIS BOARO ON TO THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WHERE THEY WILL HE FINAL SAY ON THESE ITEMS ON EITR FEBRUARY 8 OR FEBRUARY 22. WE'U AS EACH ITEM COMES UP WHAT DAY THE MEETING STARTS AT 4:00. THE ZONING AT 5:00 ON THEIR MEETING ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENT CR SO IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT O SPEAK ON AN AGENDA ITEM, IF YOUL OUT ONE OF THOSE CARDS, THEY ARN THE VESTIBULE AND BRING IT UP AU WANT TO HAND IT OFF OVER HERE OT BRING IT UP WHEN I ASK YOU TO CT SO WE CAN GET THAT FROM YOU PLEO ASK THAT PEOPLE KEEP THEIR CELLN VIBRATE AND IF YOU DO DO NEED TA CALL, IF YOU WOULD BE KIND ENOUO OUT INTO THE VESTIBULE TO TAKE L AND NOW THAT I'M SAYING IT, I BO
>> WILL ARE THERE PEOPLE WHEER O HAVE NOT ATTENDED A PLANNING CON MEETING BEFORE? JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.
ALL RIGHT. JUST TO GIVE YOU A A OF HOW WE GO THROUGH ITEMS HEREH ITEM COMES UP, WILL THE STAFF -F WILL GIVE US THEIR REPORT ON THE MAY ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF. THL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND R REASON FOR REQUESTING THE CHANGR THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK. ANE EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO CO, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND T POINT IT'S UP TO THIS BOARD TO T THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE ITEM. H THAT IN MIND, LET'S GO HEAD ANDO OUR AGENDA, WE'RE START AGE LITY TODAY. NORMALLY WE START AT 7:E HAVE KIND OF A LENGTHY AGENDA T FIRST ITEM WILL BE -- BEFORE I I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE GENERALS JUST KIND OF TO THE BOARD HERE T
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WANT TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY WAS DI THINK EVERYBODY NOSE BECAUSE I A LITTLE LATE TONIGHT, WE HAVE A T PEOPLE HERE IF ANYONE NEEDS HELE IN THE PROCESSOR OR THE COUNTY G THAT WE WILL AGREE TO MOVE FROMO DIGITAL. WE'RE IN A TRIAL PHASI WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO TRE THEIR LAP TOPS AS MUCH AS POSSII WILL ADMIT I MYSELF FELL BACK OY WRITTEN MATERIAL ABOUT HALFWAY T BUT WE'RE REALLY HOPEFUL, GIVE E MONTHS AND SEE IF WE CAN BECOMEM TO IT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUEE LAP TOPS, WITH HOW TO USE IT, AG LIKE THAT, CHA REECE STUART WHOT TO MENTION IN OUR ANNOUNCEMENTSW SEND HER AN E-MAIL WITH YOUR CO, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, COMPLAINTSR YOU HAVE. OKAY. SO WITH THAT E[1. Approval of Minutes]
INTO THE AGENDA WE HAVE TWO SETF MINUTES TO APPROVE TONIGHT. WET ABLING TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER S LAST MONTH SO I'M LOOKING FOR AA MOTION TO APPROVE THE DECEMBER H DECEMBER 7TH MEETING MINUTES ORY CONNECTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. SO MOVED.MOTION BY MISS BRIDGMAN. >> SECOND BY MR. NORTON. ANY D? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR OF THL OF THE DECEMBER MINUTES, STAY I.
>> AND WE HAVE OUR MINUTES FROMT MEETING ON JANUARY 4, SAME THINY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> ALL RIGHT. I'LL TAKE A MOTI.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. MR. NORTON MOVES TO.
>> AND A SECOND FROM MR. DAVIS.E IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE JANUAS
STATE I. I. >> ALL OPPOSED. OKAY. OKAY. T PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS A GENET PERIOD. IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLO ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BUT IF YY THIS BOARD, YOU'RE WELCOME TO CD TALK ABOUT THEM FOR A FEW MINUT SEEING. I'M GOING TO OPEN THAT I DON'T SEE ANYONE APPROACHING M SO WE'LL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC COMMD
[1. Public Hearing to consider proposed Land Development Code Change LDC 2021-15. (D. Selig)]
MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FT OR THIS AFTERNOON I GUESS. THEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARIO CONSIDER A PROPOSED LAND DEVELOE CHANGE. LDC2021-15. THE APPLICS REQUESTED THIS ITEM TO BE CONTIE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINN MARCH 121. ONE. IT WAS ADVERTIF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS IL OPT PUBLIC COMMENT. I GUESS EVT THE MEMO. IT WILL BE NEXT MOVEM GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARID BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. I A PLOATION TO CONTINUE THIS.SO THAT MOTION WOULD BE TO CONTE MARCH 4TH MEETING OR SOON THERES IT CAN BE HEARD. CORRECT.
>> ISN'T IT MARCH 1? >> IT IS MARCH 1. I'M NOT SURED MARCH 4, I'M SORRY. IS THAT OKAY WITH THE MOTION MA?
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO ALL IN FAVOR OF CONTINUINM
TO THE MARCH MEETING, PLEASE ST. >> I.
>> ALL OPPOSED. ALL RIGHT. AL ITEM NO. 2 ON OUR MENU AGENDA IC
[2. Public Hearing to consider REZ-2021-18. (District 3, Comm Renninger)(M. Brown)]
HEARING TO CONSIDER REZ-2021-18N DISTRICT 3. IT IS A REZONE OF S FROM IN TIR MEET GREAT BUSINESSD SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RB TOY BUSINESS BB-FOUR. YOU HAVE THIS MR. BROWN.>> PLEASE GO HEAD. MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION. R, THE APRIL LA CAN IS JOHN FAY AGS HIS CHAIRMAN INDICATED IS A ZONE ON .9 PLUS ACRES FROM INTERMEETH BUSINESS AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIO
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HEAVY BUSINESS. THE PARCEL LOCT 1455 SUZANNE AVENUE. THIS WILLE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FN OF THEIR FEBRUARY 8 MEETING WHIT TUESDAY. THIS PARCEL HAS SPLIT THE NORTHERN ROUGHLY THIRD OF TL IS FOR BB INTERMEDIATE BUSINESSE SOUTHERN 2/3 JUST ABOUT .6 ACREE FAMILY RB. THE PARCEL WAS APPRA LAND USE CHANGE BACK IN 2020 FRN CORE TO COMMERCIAL. THE RB ZONG DISDIRECT ON THE SOUTHERN PART E PARCEL IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH TE COMMISSION FUTURE LAND USE. THA CONFLICT THERE. SECTION 3.25F3R LAND DEVELOPMENT OWN CODE DOES W REZONING TO BB. BECAUSE OF THIS RESTRICTION THERE IS NO OPPORTUO BRING THE WHOLE PARCEL INTO A BG DISTRICT. AND THE REQUESTED BBR ZONING IS ALLOWED IN THE USE CA HERE'S AN AERIAL AND IT'S THE -, THAT'S THE WRONG BUTTON BUT HERE ZONING SURROUNDING IT. THE PARN QUESTION IS OUTLINED IN PURPLE E HATCHING. THERE IS BB TO THE ND ALSO BB AND A, OUR BUSINESS COMR SHOPPING CENTERS A CROSS TO THE HAVE YOU MULTI FAMILY TO THE EAD PS1 DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH. HERN AERIAL OF THE PARCEL AND THE SUG AREAS AND SO THE REQUEST IS TO E ENTIRE PARCEL TO GO FROM RBB TO, THE PROPOSED BB-FOUR ZONING IS T WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE OF COM STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATD DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST IS T WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING DISD USES AND IS COME PAT BELL WITH E SURROUNDING AREA. RECOGNIZING E BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS IN THE CL REQUIRE ENHANCED SET BACKS AND G AGAINST THE MULTI FAMILY TO THEF THIS PROJECT OR PARCEL. STAFF S APPROVAL OF APPLICATION Z21-18.U HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT ?>> YEAH, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THER JUST A MINUTE?
YEAH. >> THAT ONE PARCEL THAT'S A LIT- I CAN'T QUITE READ THE MENU THET THAT LITTLE POINTED TRY ANGULART THE ONE BELOW IS, IT'S GRAY, ISA ZONING.
>> YES, THAT WOULD BE BA ZONING. >> OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. YA
QUESTION? >> I DO THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.F THE CON DISCUSSION CONDITION NAF THIS IS APPROVED IS LAND DEBRISL SAL FACILITY. WHAT IS THAT?
>> A BASICALLY A USE WHERE THEYG OLD DEBRIS FROM A CLEARING A PAL ELSEWHERE, BRING IT AND DEPOSITE AND THEN CHIP IT OR WHATEVER THH IT, GRIND IT UP FOR MULCH OR WHT THAT'S WHAT THAT USE IS.
>> OKAY. I'VE GOT CONCERNS ABOE SO I'LL WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT T
BUT I'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTI. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> SEEING NONE. IS THE APPLICA? OUR OLD TRENT MR. SCROUBY. HI, MARK SCREW BY ATTORNEY WITHS LAW FIRM IN JACKSONVILLE. RIVER PLACE BOULEVARD. STAFF RE SAID IT ALL, SAID EVERYTHING THD SAY. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE USEDT TYPE OF USE FOR DISPOSAL. IF II WOULD AMEND THE CODE TO PUT THAF
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THE URBAN CORE AREA, THAT TYPE D JUST LIMIT THAT TO YOUR MORE RU BUT YOU KNOW WE'RE STUCK WITH IN THERE BUT THAT'S NOT OUR INTENT BUT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE RIT STORE TO EXISTING BB THAT BACKSE APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE ARE RIGHS THE STREET FROM COMMERCIAL SHOPR AND THE POINT THERE IS OFFICE SD SO WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT WE BET FLOO CON FOR CON FOR MA TI WITHN THAT IS COMMERCIAL SO WE CAN PRH USE AS PERMITTED EXCEPT FOR FOR. IF IT WERE UP TO ME I WOULD CHAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF USE. D CHIPPING IN URBAN CORE, THAT'S A BAD PLACE FOR IT. BUT IT IS INE AND IF I COULD TAKE IT OUT, WOISO ANY QUESTIONS? >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE LAP CA?
>> FIRST OFF, IT'S GREAT TO SEE GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
>> THANK YOU. >> A COUPLE OTHER USES PERMITTED CONDITION NAL USES THAT I WANT . YOU MENTIONED OFFICE SPACE AND E LOOKED AT THIS BACK IN 2020 ANDS REZONED INTO COMMERCIAL IN THAT, IT MADE GREAT SENSE TO ME AND IS APPROVED I THINK UNANIMOUSLY BYE COMMISSION. BUT THERE'S A COUPS THAT I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT. , IS THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT PIEC? OBVIOUSLY THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIE
INTENDED USE? >> NO, NOT AT ALL.
>> AND THEN THE RADIO TELEVISIOE TOWERS AND EQUIPMENT BLD BUILDIH
WILL ALL BE ALOUD IF APPROVED? >> NO, BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THEY AL THE COMMERCIAL CATEGORIES IEVMET HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME, AM I T
THAT? >> THEY ARE ALL, THOSE CONDITIOS ARE ALL IN THOSE AND THE ADULT S SUBJECT TO THE PRO INVESTIGATIOF SECTION THREE-EIGHT OF CLAY COU. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD QUALS HERE FOR. THAT I TOOK A LOT OF STRIKES ONK
>> AND IT WAS WRITTEN IN SUCH AT IT WOULD VERY MUCH DISCOURAGE TF THING AND WE WERE VERY CAREFUL E SURE IT COULDN'T BE UP IN THE MF
THE GUT OF THE COUNTY. >> I AGREE A LOT OF HARD WORK TD THE STAFF DID AT THAT TIME TO ME HANDLED IT WELL.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF INTENS OFFICE SPACE, IS THERE NOT A BER DESIGNATION THAN HEAVY BUSINESS. I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS FOR OFFICE S WE'RE ACROSS THE STREET FOR OFF. I'M SORRY, I MISUNDERSTAND UNDE.
>> I SAID USE FOR PERMIT OOD. >> AND THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE N OOMPLET THANK YOU. CAN YOU ELABORATE WHAT THE INTEE
IS? >> THE THOUGHT AT THIS POINT ISA STORAGE FACILITY THERE. THAT'SE CONDITION NAL USES OF RV STORAG.
>> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> NOT ON THIS ONE.
>> LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARIS ONE. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS ONE IS ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO SN THIS ISSUE? OKAY. SO NO I'M GOING TO CLOSEC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THR
DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >> I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION FO?
YES. >> WHAT ADDITIONAL SET BACKS WOE TO PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE I FAMILY HOUSING?
>> THE ADJUST ANT MULTI FAMILY E FAMILY IS INCREASED TO 25 FEET R
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20 OR 15 IF IT NOT A RESIDENTIAG BACK THERE.>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT I'M KIND OT ALWAYS KEANE ON THIS HEAVY ZONIF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING ZONN THIS, BB IS WHAT WAS ASSIGNED TS PARCEL BACK IN '92 WHEN THE COMS DONE AND BB PRETTY MUCH ALLOWS G AND BB-FOUR IS THE CLOSEST THINE TO BB THESE DAYS. SO IF YOU LOS A LOT OF THAT BB DOWN IN THAT SS IS JUST ADDING ON TO THAT STRIPI THINK FROM STRICT WHRI A PLANNIG PERSPECTIVE RATHER THAN AN ANES, THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY. SO WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GE.
>> I'LL MOVE THE STAFF RECOMMENO APPROVE VERY ZONING.
>> OKAY. MR. GARRISON A SECOND. >> YES.
MR. NORTON A SECOND. >> ANY FARTHER DISCUSSION? THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS I HAN ABOUT THE MULTI FAMILY RIGHT BES PARCEL AND THE RESIDENTS THAT'SO THE RIGHT OF THIS PARCEL SO CONG THE POTENTIAL USES I THINK THERN IMPACT THERE SO AS LONG AS THE E IN PLACE AND THE DOWN LIGHTING D REQUIREMENTS ARE MET I THINK THY
BUT I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT. >> SPEAKING OF THAT. IT'S ACTUI KNOW THERE'S RESIDENTIAL BEHINDS PS1 THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO IT OR,
THAT'S DAYCARE CENTERS. >> (IN AUDIBLE).
>> BUT ON THE MAP HERE, THE NEXL OVER IS PS1. I'M NOT AWARE OF E
SPECIFIC USE. >> I KNOW DAYCARE CENTERS IS ONE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSET BUT IT'S NOT A FULL-TIME RESIDEC WHICH IS THE NEXT PAR SHELL OVEI FAMILY RESIDENCE.
>> AND HALFWAY DOWN. >> O THERE'S ANOTHER.
>> A PREK. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT DOESN'T SHOE AS PS1 UNLESS THAT MAP DOESN'T R ENOUGH.
DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >> YES, IF THEY DO SELECT ONE OE CONDITIONAL USES TO PUT IN THERY HAVE TO COME BACK IN ORDER TO GT
INCLUDED UNDER THIS ZONING? >> NO, THEY HAVE TO MEET THE COS THOUGH AND IF YOU'LL LOOK ON THE CONDITIONAL USE, THERE'S ANOTHEN OF THE CODE WHICH YOU DON'T HAVT OF YOU, THREE-
>> 20-3-5. AND THEY WOULD ARE PROHIBIT THE CONDITIONAL USE. YOUR PROPERTYO MEET THE CONDITIONAL USES FOR AR ACTIVITY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS?
>> NO. ALL RIGHT. THEN I'M GOL THE QUESTION TO MOTION. THE MOO RECOMMEND THE STAFF REPORT, ALLN FAVOR STATE A.
>> MR. DAVIS. MR. DAVIS IS A N. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT ONE IS DONES
[3. Public Hearing to consider CPA-2021-19. (District 1, Comm Cella)(M. Brown)]
[4. Public Hearing to consider PUD 2021-10. (District 1, Comm. Cella)(M.Brown)]
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE. >> THE NEXT ITEM 3 IS A LAND USE AND THEN THE ITEM 4 IS A ZONINGD THEY ARE FOR THE SAME PARCEL SOI WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF WE COULD, E THEM ALL AS ONE DISCUSSION UNITN WE WILL DEAL WITH THE MOTIONS AE MOTIONS BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE ABT EVERYBODY ELSE BUT I THINK WHATO DO WITH THE ZONING MAY INFLUENCE WANT TO DO WITH THE LAND USE. H THAT SAID MR. BROWN, YOU CAN COD THEM. CPA-202,119 IS A LAND USE CHANGD THERE'S A COMPANION REZONING FOE PAL R PARCEL.
THE THE LAND USE CHANGE IS A SME CHANGE. THE 1.02 ACRES FROM URE TEN TO COMMERCIAL. THE PARCEL D 14 SWIMMING PEN DRIVE. THIS WIF
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THESE ACTIONS WILL GO TO THE BOF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS NEXT TUESDT FOR BOTH THE REZONING AND LAND E IS TO FACILITATE THE USE OF THEY FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE. TE PRESENTLY IS A 3993 SQUARE FOOTG ON THE PARCEL THAT IS UTILIZE DE CREEK SIDE ANIMAL HOSPITAL TODAE COMPANION REZONE WGING WITH THIS PROPOSED TO CHANGE FROM PS2 THAS FOR THE VET AND NAN MALL HOSPIT THE PROPOSED PUD DOES LIMIT THEO THE MAXIMUM OF PROFESSIONAL OFFO 5000 SQUARE FEET. HERE IS THE G ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE N SEE THAT AROUND IT IS THE UC10,D IT IS UC10 URBAN CORE TEN FIEWTD USE. MEARS AN AERIAL, SOUTH OFS PROJECT, DIRECTLY SOUTH BUDDINGE PROJECT IS SWIMMING PAN CREEK EY SCHOOL AND THEN ON THE OTHER TH, EAST, WEST AND NORTH YOU HAVE SE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE UC10 HD USE, DOES ALLOW DENSITY RANGE OS PER ACRE UP TO A MAXIMUM OF TENR ACRE. THAT WOULD BE REMOVED WIS CHANGE. IF IT GOES TO COMMERCIE INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT IS MAX% FLOOR AREA RATIO WHICH FOR 1.02S WOULD EQUAL A MAXIMUM OF 17,772E FEET BUT THERE IS A PUD AND IF S ALSO APPROVED WITH THE MAXIMUM , THAT WOULD SET THE LIMIT UNLESSA CHANGE TO THE PUD BUT I JUST WA THE LAND USE CHANGE IN AND OF IF WITHOUT THAT CHANGE, WITHOUT THU HAVE THE POTENTIAL. SOMEONE WOE THE POTENTIAL TO GO UP TO 17,70E FEAST COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THES ADEQUATE CENTRAL WATER AND SEWEE TO THE PARCEL. THERE'S ADEQUATE COUNTY HAS ADEQUATE SOLID WASTE WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF E-MAIL S REGARDING THIS PAR SEVMENT YOU D SOME IN THE PACKET AND THEN SOMT WERE PASSED OUT THAT WE RECEIVEE SUB COMMITTED THE PACKET OUT TOA LOT OF THEM DEALT WITH AND HAD S WITH THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT.T WANT TO GO OVER THAT REAL BRIEFE EXISTING ANIMAL HOSPITAL AT 399E FEET, IF YOU LOOK AT THE IT RAT, THAT GENERATES 4.72 TRIPS PER TD SQUARE FEET. THAT ROUGHLY EQUAD THESE ARE ALL PEEK HOW WE ARE T, NOT DAILY. ALL PEEK HOUR BECAUS WHAT WE USE FOR OUR ANALYSIS, TY EQUATES TO ABOUT 19 TRIPS DURINK HOUR. SO THAT'S EXISTING TODAYE USE AND EXISTING BUILDING AS IT.>> GOING TO THE PROPOSED GENERAE WHICH IS WHAT IS IN THAT PUD DI, IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE PUD AND D DO THE MAXIMUM OF 17,772 TRIPS E FEET, YOU WOULD GENERATE APPROX7 TRIPS DIEWRGS THE PEAK HOUR. TE DISCUSSING BUILDING WHICH I DONO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT BUT THET INDICATED THEY JUST WANT TO CONE EXISTING BUILDING TO OFFICE WITO EXPANSION, YOU WOULD GENERATE AX TRIPS, A REDUCTION IN THE OVERAS DURING THE PEAK HOUR. UNDER THF ADOPTED, YOU WOULD HAVE A MAXIM0 SQUARE FEET AND THAT WOULD GENEE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TRIPS IN AGE PEAK HOUR. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE ALTHOUGH IT'S REDUCTE PEAK TRIPS WHEN THEY HAPPEN FORO USES. FOR THE OFFICE IT'S GOINN
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THE MORNING AND LATE AFTERNOON.F THE COMMENTS RELATED TO THE IMPG DROP OFF AND PICK UP AT THE SCHT DOOR. THE AFTERNOON PEAK FOR TE WILL BE OFF FROM WHEN THE SCHOOS LETTING OUT, THAT WILL BE IN THO 6:00 P.M. RANGE WHERE THE SCHOOY NOW AT 3:00 TO 3:30 AND THE ANIL HOSPITAL, THAT PEAK IS NOT THE THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL CONFLICE MORNING. MOST OFFICES OUTSIDE F EMPLOYEES DON'T HAVE A LOT OF VT 8:00 IN THE MORNING. IT'S MOREE LATER IN THE MORNING. SO IN CO, THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE, AND TS SPECIFICALLY MADE FOR THE LAND , TO CHANGE FROM UC10 TO COMMERCI, PROPOSED CHANGE IS CONSISTENT WE GOALS OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OP PLAN. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPF THIS CHANGE AND IF YOU'LL GIVE A SECOND, I CAN JUMP REAL QUICKLYY OTHER PRESENTATION FOR THE -- AT REPEAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKI DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING THAT I HADD THERE FOR THE PUD. OH, AND THES THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE PUD IS E PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND COMMERCS A YOU ALLOWED IN THE ZONING DIS, ZONING TWO HAS A CAP ON THE SIZE BIDDING AT 2500 SQUARE FEET. AE EXISTING BUILDING IS LARGER THAD THEY WANTED TO, AND ALTHOUGH THY INDICATED THERE WAS NO DESIRE FN EXPANSION AT THIS POINT, THEY DN THE PUD A MAXIMUM OF 5000 SQUAR.THAT'S ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, EXCR INTERRUPTING.
>> YEAH. >> THIS ASKED FOR THE ADDITIONAE
FOOTAGE? >> YES, THE PUD ASKED TO CAP IT0 SQUARE FEET. THEY DON'T HAVE TO USUAL 5000 BS
WHAT THEY ASKED FOR IN THE PUD,. >> AND THEN THE REASON THE BA2 E
THE BUILDING WAS BIGGER? >> THE EXISTING BUILD WOGING WOT
ALLOW GOING TO BA2. >> A VARIANCE WOULDN'T BE APPRO?
>> WE HAVE -- I MEAN ANYONE CANA VARIANCE BUT THEY DECIDED TO TRO APPROACH IT THROUGH THE PUD REZS WHAT THEY DESIRED TO DO.
>> OKAY. >> AND STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS SUF THE PUD FOR THE REZONING FROM P THAT WAS A LITTLE COMBINED AND P BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE A TWO ITEMS?
>> STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PUD2021-10.
>> IS THE APPLICANT HERE? >> YES SIR.
>> COME ON UP BUT BEFORE YOU STU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION FIRST?
>> YES, MR. BROWN, I WANT TO ASE QUICK QUESTIONS IF I COULD. I Y THE PROPERTY AND AROUND IT AND I NOTICED IT IS FAIRLY OVERGROWN.T
BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG PERIOD O? >> YEAH,.
>> IT APPEARED TO BE OOMPLET I T BELIEVE. I THINK IT'S JUST A LF
UPKEEP BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SUR. >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN VACAA
COUPLE YEARS. >> I WANTED TO CONFIRM HUGH LOND
BEEN VACANT? >> AND I WANTED TO CONFIRM WHATT SAID. YOU SAID IF THE PUD IS AD THEN THEY WILL GO FROM 19 TRIPSR TRIPS WHERE IT CURRENTLY CARRIEO EIGHT.
>> UNDER THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICP GENERATION AND IF THEY DID IT OK
TIED TO THE 5000 SQUARE FEET. >> OKAY.
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>> THAT'S DURING THE PEAK HOUR,S WHAT IT WOULD GENERATE.
>> PEAK ON PEEK. >> THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIN
ACTUALLY? >> I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. A.
>> AND DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE FIRL RINGS AT THAT SCHOOL IN THE MOR?
>> ANY IDEA? >> IT'S AN ELEMENTARY.
ABOUT 8:10. YOU HAVE 8:30. THE FIRST BELL N THE TARDY BELL. YES SIR. IS THAT IT.
MR. GARRISON, I DON'T KNOW IF TE APPLICANT OR STAFF ANSWERS THIST ON THE ZONING APPLICATION THAT E VEHICULAR ACCESS WILL BE ON SWIN DRIVE BUT IF YOU LOOK AT AN AERT APPEARS TO COME OFF WHATEVER THE STREET IS, WOOD BEGGAR. SO WILE SWIMMING PEN DRIVE, WILL THEY PW DRIVEWAY? HOLD ON SECOND BILL AND WE CAN R
THAT. ANYONE ELSE? >> OKAY GIVE US YOUR NAME AND AD GO RIGHT HEAD. STEVEN COWARD.
I LIVE AT HAR MANY MONTH ANY HAN MIDDLEBERG WHICH IS SWIMMING PEE OTHER SIDE OF 220. SO WE CAN. S HERE, WE CAN WALK THERE FROM WHE GOING TO BE LIVING. IT'S ZONEDI THINK THE FIRST PRESENTATION SA,
>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUU 5000 SQUARE FEET. ORIGINALLY ZD ME BA2 WHEN I WAS INTERESTED INE PROPERTY OF APRIL OF LAST YEAR T INTO CONTRACT A FEW TIMES. FELH IN SEPTEMBER I GOT UNDER CONTRAD CALLED ZONING AND SAID ARE YOU 2 BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS 3900 SQT AND IT HAS A SECOND FLOOR AND TY SAID EITHER NEEDED TO BE REZONER BB2 AND THAT WAS HEAVY SOMETHINT I WAS LOOKING AT.
>> I DON'T WANT THAT THERE EITHI ASKED IF I COULD DO BA2 AND JUSF MIRROR THAT AS A PUD IF THAT MA BASICALLY COPY A BA2 TO A PUD.
I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE QUESTIONS. Y TO ANSWER THAT. SO THAT WAS 25E FEET. I JUST DOUBLED IT TO 500O RHYME OR REASON. I JUST WANTEDE SURE THE BUILDING WOULD FIT ANDD AT THE PERMIT IN 2003 AND IT HAN ADDITION ON IT. AND I HAVE IT E WANTS TO SEE T. THAT IS ON THERM 2003. VI NO DESIRE TO ADD ON TE BUILDING. MONETARY IT WOULD MAE TO ADD ON 1000 SQUARE FEET TO OE SPACE. SO ABOUT US, WE OWN A BY INSURANCE AGENCY. WE'RE OFF COM PORE YEAH IN ORANGE PARK AND I A MORTGAGE BROKER BRANCH MANAGER E AND MY WIFE RUNS THE INSURANCE D I RUN THE MORTGAGE BROTH RATH. R PLAN IS TO MOVE INTO THE BUILDIY OFFICE WOULD BE UPSTAIRS SOLELYO CLIENTS WOULD EVER COME UPSTAIR DOWNSTAIRS I HAVE A MAP OF THE D FROM PLACE PLAN DID THE BUILD OU KIND OF THE DESIGN IF ANYONE WOO SEE.
THAT WE WOULD BE ROUGHLY 350 SQT AND THE GOAL WAS TO BUILD EIGHTN UNITS FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERSE GOING THROUGH IT NOW, WE'RE ON D PEORIA AND WE'RE PAYING ALMOST A MONTH AND WE HAVE MY WIFE, MYSEO PART TIME EMPLOYEES AND WE WANTT NEED ALL THAT SPACE. SO IF YOUE THERE, IT'S MORE MONEY BUT IT'SY CATERED TO 67 SQUARE FEET TO 29E FEET IS THE LARGEST UNIT WE WOUO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A VCS IR 3WEU8DING. IT'S GOING TO BE CAO ONE, TWO PEOPLE, SMALL BUSINESS, REALTORS OBVIOUSLY WOULD GO WELR BUSINESS. A TITLE COMPANY, AN SOMEONE THAT DOES W WRKS DO'S, T INSPECTIONS, THINGS OF THAT NAT THAT'S OUR PLAN. THE BUILDING N VACANT SINCE 2019, ALMOST THREEI PICTURES I TOOK TODAY IF ANYONEE TO SEE THEM. IT'S OVERGROWN. A NEW ROOF. IT'S RUN DOWN. IT NT OF WORK AND NEEDS TO BE CLEAREDO THAT'S OUR PLAN. THAT'S WHAT W- WE HAVE A 3-YEAR-OLD AND 1-YEARH BOYS WHO WILL GO TO SWIMMING PEN ELEMENTARY. I KNOW THERE'S BEED ABOUT SAFETY ISSUES AND ALL. THAT PERSONALLY I WOULD NOT WANO
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GO BY A VACANT BUILDING ON THEIO YOU CAN HAVE A HOSPITAL RELATEDL OFFICES, DETENTION CENTER, A DRE AND ALL ALCOHOL TWREEMENT FACIL INSTITUTION FOR THE INSANE AND L CLINIC AND LAND CLEARING DEBRISU SAID BEFORE. SO IF IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, MY O, I WOULD PREFER SOMEONE NOT TO BS BUILDING TODAY AND PUT THAT IN E WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE ANYTHIN WHAT WE'RE TRY DOG. TRYING TO D.WHAT ABOUT THE VEHICULAR ACCESSU GOING TO LEAVE THAT RIGHT?
>> YOUR RIGHT. I'M WRONG. >> OKAY.
>> ARE YOU GOING TO MOVE THE PAT AROUND?
I SHOULD REMEMBER THAT MY BROTHE IS STEVEN. I THINK IT'S GREAT E GOING TO POTENTIALLY REACTION TO INVESTIGATE AN OLD BUILDING ANDT BACK UP. I'M SURE IT HAS TONS R NUISANCE VIOLATIONS ON IT I GUEW THE CLAY COUNTY FOLKS ARE GOOD THE INSURANCE BUSINESS I'M JUSTG ABOUT CAPACITY ALTHOUGH WE'VE AY TALKED ABOUT TRIPS. I KNOW I DE ANY INSURANCE AGENCY. I CALL HE PHONE AND DO E-MAIL. ARE YOU GE
A LOT OF ACTIVITY ON THE INSURA? >> NO.
>> AND ON THE MORTGAGE SIDE, ARG REAL ESTATE CLOSING GZ?
>> INTO, JUST BROKER AND THE OR. >> WILL YOU HAVE CUSTOMERS COMIE
OFFICE? >> LAST YEAR I CLOSED 65 LOANS X
PEOPLE CAME TO MY OFFICE. >> MOST OF THE TIME THEY COME IR
PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO SCAN. >> NO ONE IS COMING TO SEE US OE
INSURANCE SIDE. >> MAYBE ONCE A WEEK SOMEONE COO
THE OFFICE? >> OKAY I JUST WANT TO SPEAK TOE CONCERNS WE SAW IN THE E-MAILS T TRAFFIC.
RIGHT. >> WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT CHILDRD TRAFFIC AND FROM THE TRIPS AND O FROM WHAT WE HEARD, IT SOUNDS LS NOT GOING TO BE A HUGE ISSUE BUO HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER.
>> COULD I ADD ON TO THAT? >> SURE, GO HEAD.
OUR BRIGHT WAY IS 9:00 TO 5:00.E IS 9:00 TO 5:00 AS WELL. SO WIL STARTING AT 8:30, MOST OF THE TS OUT BY 8:15. IF IT'S US WE'LL I WILL JUST WALK THERE BUT WE WONE CLIENTS COMING THAT THE TIME. R PEOPLE TRYING TO GET INTO THE BA TITLE COMPANY, PEST INSPECTION,S WORK MOST ON THE WEEK JEBDZ SO T GOING TO BE MUCH IF ANY TRAFFICE TIME THAT SCHOOL IS GOING AT 8:E MORNING.
>> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONSS TRYING TO DECIDE TO WAIT UNTIL R PUBLIC COMMENT BUT I'LL BRING T I KNOW WHAT YOUR PROPOSING TO DE TELLING US WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSINT I'M FOCUSED ON WHAT IS IN THE AL APPLICATION HERE AND THERE DOESE A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE AMOUF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE COMING ANDM THE BUILDING PER ALL THE LETTERT WE'VE SEEN AND THAT SAY BAD CORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IF YOU DU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE SIGNS OUT TE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED THAT THE INTERSECTION. SO WE -- TRAFFICN ISSUE WHICH WE BASE A DECISION T CERTAINLY A LOT OF CONCERN TO TE NEIGHBORS. SO IF I UNDERSTAND U CORRECTLY, YOU'RE NOT INTERESTEE THE BUILDING ANY LARGER?
>> CORRECT. >> SO IF WE ASKED TO REDUCE 500O
>> THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE A PROBL? >> ZERO.
>> THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE PD USE LIST HERE AND I UNDERSTAND Y HAVE SUGGESTED SOME OF THIS SO Y WE'RE HERE.
>> WE HAVE OFFICES FOR DOCTORS,S SPREE TEE O PATH. CHIROPRACTORL AND LAB STORIES, A TORE NEERKSZ ENGINEERING OFFICES, COUNTY AH BOOK KEEPING, REAL ESTATE, INSUE COMPANIES AND FINANCE OFFICES.
RIGHT OFF THE BAT, I HAVEN'T HEY YOU WANT TO PUTNEY DOCTORS OR ML
OFFICES IN THERE, IS THAT CORRE? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
>> WOULD YOU HAVE AN ISSUE IF WO STRIKE OUT, DOCTORS, DENTIST, AD CHIROPRACTORS, MEDICAL AND DENTB STORIES BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE DOE TRAFFIC. I MEAN, GO TO ANY DOCS OFFICE AND PEOPLE ARE ALL DAY L.
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>> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY WE OKAY TO LEAVE A CHIROPRACTOR INS A ONE OR TWO PERSON SHOP? AGAIN, WE'RE NOT LET ME SAY. WT REALLY NEGOTIATING HERE BUT I'MG OUR CONCERNS AND YOU CAN PUT WHU WANT ON HERE AND WE CAN SAY YEST CHIROPRACTORS GENERATE TRAFFIC Y ARE MEDICAL PEOPLE. THEY ARE NT SEPARATE. EYE THOSE CONCERNS.
THE OTHER THING IS ALSO IN PERMS IN ITEM 2. OF COURSE YOU HAVE E PARKING AND HEATING AND COOLINGG QUARTERS FOR A CUSTODIAN OR CARF THE OFFICE BUILDINGS OR BUILDIND ANIMAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS. THE THE OLD ANIMAL CLINIC. I DON'TD WHY THAT'S IN THE REQUEST. YOUT PLANNING ON HAVING ANYONE LIVE , CORRECT?
>> NO, A. >> AND THAT PART WAS FROM BA2 AT LEFT ANIMAL CLINIC BECAUSE IT WL CLINIC AND IT'S BUILT OUT TO BEL CLINIC. NOT WHEN YOU GET DONE WITH IT TH
RIGHT? >> NO, VI NO DESIRE TO DO IT.
>> IF WE EVER DECIDE TO SELL TH, IT'S BEEN AN ANIMAL CLINIC BEFO.
>> AND THE OTHER WAS UNDER THE L USES, IT DOESN'T SHOW THE RESTRN THESE USES ANYWHERE SO IF YOU WE SALE, DISPLAY, PREPARATION AND E CONDUCTED IN THE BUILDING, PRODE SOLD ONLY AT RETAIL AND PUBLIC Y RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND OUR GOD DEBRIS DISPOSABLE FACILITY. I E WHY ANY OF THOSE CONDITIONAL USE WITHIN WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
>> THEY ARE NOT. THEY WERE JUS. >> SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO, DOEE ELSE WANT TO COMMENT OR DO YOU O HEAR THE PUBLIC'S COMMENT FIRST.
LET ME OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING D AFTERWARDS WE MAY ASK YOU TO CO.
SURE. THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC I THINK I HAVE ONE CARD. I'M NF I HAVE MORE PEOPLE THAN THAT.
>> TAYLOR BECKER. DO YOU WANT N THIS?
ARE YOU TAYLOR? >> YES SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH G ME SPEAK JUST A MINUTE AND I HAE TO THESE AND FIND THAT WE'RE NE.
>> IF YOU WOULD GIVE US YOUR NAD ADDRESS.
TAYLOR BECKER, I LIVE ALL 24 HAY ROAD AND I'VE BEEN THERE ABOUT .
>> OKAY. >> AND A PLEECH GREAT YOUR TIMEI THINK YOUR NOTIFICATIONS FROM TS HAVE COME IN. I'M JUST A CUL ME OF THOSE THINGS SAYING WE'RE COD ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. IT'S A FAMI PEOPLE BIKE, WALK, WALK THEIR D, THERE'S ALREADY A MARKING FOR ST WAS 2R57B8G TRAGICALLY KILLED WS RIGHT THERE.
IT DOESN'T GO FIVE DAYS AND THEN ACCIDENT RIGHT THERE. SO YES, A PROPONENT FOR COMMERCIAL INCREAR EVERY REASON BUT MOVE IT ON DOWN OR MAYBE OUR DEER NEIGHBOR COULN BETTER ABOUT LIMITING THAT TRAFW RIGHT ON THE CORNER THERE WHERES AND FACT FACULTY HAVE TO COME TM SCHOOL AND THAT IS MY REAL CONCG RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM THAT AI WISH YOU WOULD GUIDE HIM CORRECT TO DO. HE SEEMS LIKE A GOODMANE SAME TIME HE HAS CHILDREN SO I N UNDERSTAND THAT HE AND HIS WIFEE FEARFUL THAT SOMETHING WOULD HAN BECAUSE OF THAT MASSIVE AMOUNT C RIGHT THERE. YOU ALSO HAVE A BT COMING OVER THE BRIDGE FROM WHID TREES THAT BLOCK THE VIEW. SO Y HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT WHAT E DOING THAT THE INTERSECTION. AE THE KIDS AND FACULTY. THEY ARES WATCHING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPES ITEM?
>> YES, MA'AM, COME ON UP PLEASN JUST HAND IT TO THIS GENTLEMAN .
>> MY NAME IS DEATH LEAN DEFICIE AT 93 SWIMMING PEN DRIVE. JUSTA CONCERNED NEIGHBOR. IT'S A WONL NEIGHBORHOOD BUT THAT INTERSECTE THEY ARE PLANNING TO DO THIS, IU SAY THERE WILL BE LESS TRAFFIC,S ALMOST A BLIND DRIVEWAY. THAT IT'S KIND OF A Y. SO YOU HAVE LE
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PEOPLE OR THREE AREAS THAT ARE O GO IN AND OUT AND LIKE YOU SAIDE HAD ACCIDENTS THERE ALL THE TIME HAVE HAD DEATHS SO I'M CONCERNET THAT, INCREASED TRAFFIC WOULD ME ACCIDENTS. I THINK WITH THE STD SCHOOL HOURS MAYBE WE WON'T SEEH TRAFFIC THERE BUT IT'S STILL A D INTERSECTION AND I DO FEEL THATS DANGEROUS. ALSO I'M CONCERNED E FUTURE. IF WE CHANGE THE ZONINN YOU SELL THE BUILDING, THEN WHAE LEFT WITH, IN ALL OF THOSE CONDL USES AND WHATEVER ELSE COULD BE? I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL PROBABLY PREINCLUDES SOME THINGS, I'M HOE CAN'T PUT A HALFWAY HOUSE AND AL REHAB OR A GUN RANGE, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THOSE TS BECAUSE IT IS VERY CLOSE PROXIME SCHOOL. IT'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR SE YOU WOULD THOROUGHLY CONSIDER TE OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO THE NEID AND SCHOOL AND SAFETY ISSUES.THANK YOU MA'AM. COULD YOU HOLD ON ONE SECOND?
>> DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPE? >> OKAY WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THM CURIOUS. HAVE YOU LIVED THERE A NUMBER OF YEARS?
>> 12 YEARS. >> SO YOU WERE THERE WHEN THE AL
>> CAN YOU KIND OF -- DID YOU SC ISSUES WITH THE ANIMAL CLINIC?
>> WHAT DID YOU SEE WHEN THAT W? >> ONE SEIZE AND TWO SEIZE OF CG IN AND OUT. PEEK TIMES DURING I CAN'T GET TO MY HOUSE AT 2:30, M COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE AT WHIO MAKE A TURN, I CAN'T DO IT. I O AROUND SIGH AND COME AROUND THEY TO GET TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE TRAF.
IT'S JUST WHERE THAT DRIVEWAY IN AND OUT, IT DOES COME UP TO TWOR
ACCESS POINTS WHERE CARS CAN HI. >> IF THAT ACCESS IS OFF 220, MT WOULD BE MORE AGREE ABLE. MAYBS DANGEROUS BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S IY
BAD PLACE, THE DRIVEWAY. >> BUT TO THE ANIMAL CLINIC, WHS THERE, DID IT CREATE ANY KIND OE AS FAR AS YOU COULD TELL WITH TR
ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> NOT SO MUCH FROM THE CARS IN LIKE I SAID, ONE OR TWO AT A TIG IN OR OUT.
>> OKAY. >> BUT IT IS KIND OF A BLIND DR.
>> AND PEOPLE DOANGT EXPECT CARR TWO YEARS NO ONE EXPECTS ANYBODE
COMING OUT OF THERE SO NO ONE I. >> RIGHT.
OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. >> ANYONE ELSE? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HD WRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION TO
MR. GARRISON? >> ALL RIGHT. SO AS THE REST DT ROOKIE. I'M LOOKING AT AN OPPOO BE EDUCATED HERE. IT'S ZONED AA MORE INTENSIVE ZONING THAN WHATE GENTLEMAN INTENDS TO USE IT FOR.
>> ADMITTEDLY A DIFFERENT ZONE T YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF IS NOE INTENDS TO USE IT FOR BUT WHAT D ALLOWS HIM.
>> RIGHT. I GUESS IT'S A POINTA VETERINARIAN WANTED TO COME BACD
OPEN IT UP, HE COULD OPEN IT BA? >> TODAY.
>> AND HE WOULD HAVE THE NUMBER, 27 PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND NO ONE CI MEAN THE CONCERN IS A LEGITIMAT. I'M NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH THE T WHAT THE GENTLEMAN IS OFFERING O BRING IT BACK TO LIFE SO TO SPEE BUILDING THAT IS AND USE IT FORS INTENSIVE USE THAN IT IS SET FOW AND SO I MEAN I PERSONALLY AM GO SUPPORT THE APPLICATION AND JUS, THE NEED TO HAVE IT REZONED, YO, SOMEBODY CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO MEL QUICK. I GUESS THE FACT IT'S SY DEG IS NATEED AS A MEDICAL FACI.
>> NO, THE PS3 ZONING, THAT WOUT ALLOW IT FOR OFFICE USE.
>> OKAY. >> I FIGURED THAT BUT THE IDEA E INTENSE ZONING NOW. HE IS TRYING TO DOWN ZONE IF YO.
>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. DO YOU HAVE SOME MR. BOURRE?
>> I ALWAYS DO. BUT I WILL KEEM BRIEF.
AND BEFORE YOU START I WANT TO E WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. ARE THEY
ISSUES WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON? >> I CAN UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFICD STACKING ISSUES COMING OUT. I'G AT THE MAP RIGHT NOW COMING IEWM SWIMMING PEN, WOOD PECKER LANE S FAR AS STACKING IN THE SCHOOL I,
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THERE'S A LARGE LOOP IF YOU COMK TOWARDS THE SCHOOL THAT PROVIDEG FOR THE CARS AND PICK UP IN THAO IT WOULD JUST BE NORMAL TRAFFICG OUT. THE CARS DO NOT STACK ON WOOD B.>> MR. BOURRE. >> I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF. A VERY STRAIGHT FORWARD APPLICATI% GOING FROM A POTENTIALLY INTENSE ARE DOWNGRADING THAT USE. LIKE COMMISSIONER GARRISON SAID, WE'G FROM 19 TRIPS DOWN TO EIGHT OR E DROP IT DOWN TO 4000 AND WE'RE E REVITALIZING A BUILDING THAT'S E DILAPIDATED FOR YEARS AND PUTTIM BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS AND CLEANP WHATEVER NUISANCE IS THERE.
THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SCHOOL AT STARTS AND THE FIRST BELL AND TF OPERATION SPHR 9:00 'TIL WHATEVS IN THE AFTERNOON, 5:00 I THINK.T HELPS WITH THE CONFLICT OF THE T ON THE SCHOOL BELL AND 9:00 STAE BUSINESS. SO MY EXPECTATION ISN THOUGH IT WILL BE LOW TRAFFIC OR THE USAGE. WE'RE STILL GOING TE STAGGERED TRAFFIC BACK AND FORTT THINK. AS MUCH AS COMMISSIONERN SAID WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE N THAT AREA AND THE CHILDREN CERTI THINK THIS IS A MUCH BETTER USES OPPOSED TO WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY WITH THAT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT .
>> I WAS THERE THIS MORNING AT E THE BELLS STARTED RINGING AND EG THEY ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IS TR THERE'S A MARINE CORPS TERM THAE FOR THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT BUT MENTION IT HERE. BUT I PULLED E I WANTED TO GET INTO THE COMPOUT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS ABANDONED FOD THAT WAS A MISTAKE BECAUSE I WOL BE THERE, WELL, MAYBE NOT BUT TC GUARD STOPPED THE TRAFFIC THAT G OUT SOY COULD GET BACK OUT ON TD AND ON TO 220. BUT HAVE YOU THS COMBINING. THERE PEOPLE COMINGP THEIR KIDS OFF. CARS COMING OUR THEY DROP THEIR KIDS OFF AND PEE IN THERE TRYING TO GET OUT TO G THAT'S A AT 8:00. I AGREE WITHG YOU SAY MR. BOURRE AS FAR AS IFT WHERE IT IS NOW, IT COULD BE MUE UNDER THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES UNE CURRENT ZONING AND THIS TO ME IY A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO ALLEVIAE PROBLEMS THAT THE RESIDENTS ARED WITH MOSTLY FROM A STANDPOINT OK HOURS OF SCHOOL VERSUS PEAK HOUA BUSINESS TYPE THING AND THEY COD PROBABLY DOVE TAIL PRETTY WELL T AND ALLEVIATE THOSE PROBLEMS. K LEAVING THE BUILDING EMPTY IS AR TROUBLE FROM ANOTHER ASPECT ESPY WHEN YOU GOT AN ELEMENTARY SCHOA
HALF A BLOCK WAY. >> ANYONE ELSE?
>> NO. >> OKAY. I'M GOING TO MAKE A FS MYSELF AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON. E CONCERNS ABOUT THIS ONE. I'M GO START FIRST WITH THE LAND USE IS BECOMES ALMOST LIKE SPOT ZONINGF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE LAND USES D THIS PARCEL, IT'S ALL RESIDENTIE FIRST COMMERCIAL GOING TOWARDS G ISLAND IS WHITEYS AND YOU CAN'TT ONE BECAUSE BECAUSE IT WAS THERE THEN AND FORTUNATELY A LOT OF TF IS ALREADY DEVELOPED, IT'S RESI BUT I'M GOING TO PROMISE YOU GUE GOES COMMERCIAL, IT'S ONLY A MAF TIME 'TIL THIS OWNER, THIS OWNES OWNER AND THIS ONE AND THIS ONEE IN AND ASK FOR COMMERCIAL. WE E CAREFUL ABOUT CREATING MORE BLAG BOULEVARDS WHERE WE JUST KEEP TG MORE AND MORE COMMERCIAL ON THEN THE ROAD. IT'S A VERY TRICKY SN AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHAIN IN COMMERCIAL. BUT EVEN N THAT, THERE'S AN EFFORT TO RESTY DOING A PUD ON THIS PROPERTY. , EVERYONE SEEMS MOSTLY FROM WHATM GETTING TO WANT TO GO A MADE ANS
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BACK UP TO A BUSINESS AND AT THE TIME, I THINK THE RESIDENTS IN A HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHO IN THERE AS SHOULD WE AND I WOUK TANTLY BUT I WOULD SUPPORT THISE WOULD MAKE CHANGES TO THE PUD,.>> AND THEN THAT WAY IF A MEDICAL OFFICE WAO IN THERE, TO YOUR QUESTION PETEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND ASK FD BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE AN ALLOW THE GENTLEMAN IS LOOK TO PUT INW INTENSITY USES IN THERE, LET'S E THAT'S ALL THAT'S CAPABLE OF GON THERE AND TO THAT, I WOULD PROPA COUPLE OF THINGS, ONE IS DROP TM FLOOR AREA FROM 5000 BACK TO 40T TAKES CARE OF THE EXISTING BUILI WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE REMOVE L ISSUES, DOCTORS, DENTIST, OSTEOS AND MEDICAL. THOSE PEOPLE GENES IN AND OUT.
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE TRIP COUN SIT IN FRONT OF THE A DOCTOR'S R A LITTLE WHILE. ALSO ON PERMITTED USES, I DON'TY WE NEED TRAINING SCHOOLS FOR EM, LIVING QUARTERS FOR CUSTODIAN OL AND HEALTH WELLNESS FACILITIES AND ALL THE CONDITIONAL USES SHE DROPPED. THAT'S MY OPINION ON I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT IT UNE THINGS HAPPEN. SO IF YOU'RE COD ABOUT THE USAGE. RESTRICT IT TS BEING REQUESTED AND IF THE GENTI THINK IT WAS YOU BILL, THAT ASKT GOES UP FOR SALE AND THE NEW OWS TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, WE'LL BE H THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE. BUT AE CAN TRY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THF THEY TRY TO COME BACK WITH SOMEE INTENSIVE.
>> AND THAT'S ALL I GOT. SO. >> MR. CHAIRMAN?
>> YES SIR. >> QUICK QUESTION AND IT MAY BEE
APPLICANT. >> YOU WANT TO ASK THE APPLICAN?
>> SURE. >> CAN YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE,.
>> WHAT WAS HIS LAST NAME? >> SIR, IN LOOKING AT THIS AND G AT THE YAIRL MAP T MAY NOT BE EN YOU AIR TI TO DETERMINE IT, WOUE POSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE ENTRANCEF 220?
>> THERE'S A POND THAT YOU CAN'Y MORE.
IT'S SO OVER GROWN. IT'S NOT ON THE SURFACE, THEY MT
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SEE IT? >> REPORTER:.
>> IS HE BEHIND THE BUILDING? >> YES,.
>> AT THE APEX? >> YES AND I BELIEVE THE PARKINA DRAINS INTO THAT POND. SO YOU T BUILD ANYTHING OVER THAT TO GET? I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN BUILD OE POND.
>> I GUESS THE THING I WAS TRYIO ADDRESS WAS THE CHOKE POINT AT T
HAND CORNER FOR TRAFFIC AND FLO. >> THE ONLY POSITIVE THING IS WT GOING TO GO TO THE OFFICE AT 8:E MORNING. IT WILL BE 9:00. IT'A GREAT TRAFFIC AREA. IT IS WHATI DIDN'T BUILD IT.
UNDERSTOOD. BUT TO THE POINT YE MAKING MR. CHAIR, DOWN THE LINEF SOMETHING COMES UP AND YOU WANTE THE USE OF THE BUILDING OR SELLS STILL THERE SO HOW DO YOU FENCEO SPEAK?
>> I THINK YOU DO IT BY RESTRICE ALLOWANCE OF USAGE IN THE PUD.
>> THANK YOU. >> IS DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE N THIS ONE OR HAVE FARTHER QUESTI, DISCUSSIONS?
>> I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW THAT APPD I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE THINGE SAYING. TO LIMIT THE SIZE OF TE BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW. I'M NO GET INTO ALL THIS STUFF BUT SEEE WHEERD WEIRD TO IMPOSE THESE RES ON THIS GUY TO BRING THIS BUILDO LIFE.
THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING. I THS FINE THE SIZE IT IS AND LEAVE TG LIKE IT IS AND SOW I'M CURIOUS S WILLING TO CHANGE IT TO 4000 SQ?
>> I DON'T KNOW. IS THAT NOT AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION.
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YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION CONTINGENT? >> OKAY. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OFS REZONING APP. WHAT ARE WE DOINT LAND USE OR ZONING.
>> THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE TE
OF THE LAND USE IN THIS PARCEL. >> PER STAFF REPORT.
>> SECOND. I HAVE A SECOND FROM MR. BRIDGM ANYTHING ELSE ON THE LAND USE. G NONE. ALL IN FAVOR STATE I.
>> I. >> OPPOSED, THE CHAIR ST IN OPP.
>> >> OKAY. AND NOW I MAKE PAY MOO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR REZO PUD WITH THE CONTINGENCY THAT TE APPLICANT LIMIT THE FLOOR SIZE 0 SQUARE FEET.
>> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISWITION. I ONLYM NOT GROG TO SUPPORT THAT BECAUSK THE USES ARE THE PROBLEM MORE TE
SIECHES THE BUILDING. >> SAY THAT AGAIN.
I THINK THE USES ARE MORE OF A M THAN THE SIECHES THE BUILDING. N PARTICULAR THE MEDICAL OFFICES F THESE CONDITIONAL USES ABOUT PUC ASSEMBLY. RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGD CLEARING. I DON'T THINK THEY BN
THERE. >> SO DO YOU WANT -- COULD YOU A MOTION OR AMEND THE MOTION TO DE FROM IT AND KEEP IT RESTRICTED T
THAT I'M LOOKING FOR ACKNOWLEDGM THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
WE CAN BRING HIM BACK UP TOO. DO YOU MIND COMING BACK UP?
>> SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE D- WHICH IS FINE.
YOU'RE TRYING TO WHAT WE'RE TRYO IS MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS BUTTE
WAY YOU WANT. >> RIGHT. IT IS WHAT IT IS.
HE DIDN'T BUILD IT. IT'S A BUIG SITTING THERE. IT'S SPOT ZONIN THE FACT THAT IT'S CALLED PUBLIE OR PRIVATE SERVICE, IT'S SA MANO THE REQUEST WOULD BE FOR YOU TOO LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING 0
SQUARE FEET BASICALLY AS IT IS. >> THAT'S FINE.
>> AND THEN TO REMOVE THE USES M GOTION TO START AS OFFICE BUT ND TO OFFICES OF DOCTORS, DENTIST, OSTEOPATHS. CHIROPRACTORS, MEDD DENTAL LABS. ATTORNEYS ARE FIN, ENGINEERING IS FINE WITH HE M. .
AUDITING. REAL ESTATE SALES ISD INSURANCE. IT'S ONLY THE MEDICF AND THAT DOES. AND A GRIEVE WIH 100%. A TRIP GENERATING DEAL.
>> CONDITIONAL USES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO THIS? I'M OKAY IS THERE ANYWAY WE COUA CHILD DAYCARE CENTER BECAUSE THA SCHOOL NEXT DISOR. INSTEAD OF . THAT.
>> IF IT'S NOT, THAT'S OKAY. LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTIOND THEN WE CAN ANSWER THAT. THE CL USES WE'RE LOOKING TO STRIKE THS WELL. VI NO DESIRE FOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLD ALL RIGHT. SO HANG ON A SECOND, DIDN'T WE PUT, I HATE TO OPEN T, DIDN'T WE PUT DAYCARES AN AS ANE USE IN ANY COMMERCIAL ZONE?
>> DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THAT? THAT'S WHEN MIKE WAS STILL HEREE
KLEIN. WE DID. >> ON SITE DAYCARE.
WE HAD A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY UE IN ALL THE TIME TO CHANGE PS1 TY SCARES AND I THOUGHT WE ADDED IO SOME.
I WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE IT ON THT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFIC.
>> IN LOOKING AT OUR ZONING DISE DO HAVE DAYCARE AS A CONDITIONA.
>> IS IT IN THE ZONING? IS IT A CONDITIONAL USE IN ALL G
CATEGORIES? >> IT LOOKS LIKE -- LET'S SEE.
>> SO IT'S UNDER COMMERCIAL AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE DISTRICT. T
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? >> I THINK COURTNEY, I THOUGHT E BACK WHERE WE HAD DONE SOMETHINE PUT DAY CARES IN A LOT OF DIFFEG DISTRICTS TO ALLOW TO HAVING A E THINGS TO PS1 FOR DAYCARE.
I THINK YOU ADDED IT AS CONDITIN THOSE DISTRICTS.
>> IN BA1, B2 BUT IT WOULDN'T AN THIS PUD?
>> AND BB1 AND YOU DO HAVE ALLOE AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE ZON.
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>> I PERSONALLY. I DON'T AGREEN WITH THAT. I DON'T LIKE IT EIT.
THEY ARE DROP OFFING AT SCHOOL D PICKING UP AT SCHOOL TIME.
COUNTER TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO. >> IF I MAY MR. CHAIR?
>> GO HEAD. >> WE HAVE A FIRST TO APPROVE WN
AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THE MEDICAL. >> WE WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THAT.
>> SO BILL THE MAKER OF THE MOTM ASKING.
>> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND AS A SEKSD FOR THE MOAKSM GOING TO AGREEMENT OF EYE WANT Y WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING TO MAK.
WE'RE CHANGING THIS TO 4000 FEE, WE'RE TAKING ALL THE MEDICAL OUD REMOVING THE TRAINING SCHOOLS, G QUARTERS,.
>> CONDITIONAL. >> AND THEN ALL THE CONDITIONAL? AND IF YOU WANT THE EXACT WORDSN PARAGRAPH ONE IN PERMITTED USEST LIMITED TO STRIKE BEGINNING WIT, THROUGH DENTAL LAB STORIES, SO D READ NOT LIMITED TO ATTORNEY AND ENGINEERING OFFICES COUNTY, DAD.
>>> AND IN FACT, THE LANGUAGE TS BUT NOT LIMITED TO SHOULD BE STR TAKEN OUT AS WELL. IT SHOULD SD TO THESE USES.
>> THERE YOU GO. >> SO IT SHOULD SAY LIMITED TO , ENGINEERING, ACCOUNTING, BOOK KD REAL ESTATE AND SO ON.
>> AND THEN NO. 2, STARTING WITG SCHOOLS TO THE END OF THAT SENTL
COMES OUT. >> OKAY. IF I MAY MR. CHAIR. E
HAVE THE LAP CAN'T HERE. ARE Y? >> NO, YOU'RE TAKING EVERYTHINGI
CAN. >> TAKING HALF THE BUSINESS THAM GOING TO RENT IT OUT TO. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING IS TO REMOVEG SCHOOLS. I'M OKAY THE MEDICAL STUFF.
LIVING QUARTERS FOR A CUSTODIANE TAKE OF AN OFFICE BUILDING AND D HEALTH WELLNESS FACILITY IS WHAE LOOKING A THE.
>> SO YOU CAN STILL HAVE ATTORNR INTOING, BOOK KEEPING, REAL EST, INSURANCE COMPANIES, FINANCE ALS STILL IN PLAY OOF I'M OKAY WITHG YOU SAID. I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE ANIMAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS FACIY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BUILT OUT IT IS THAT. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
>> I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH. THAT HE IS RIGHT.
>> AND THEN ALL THE CONDITIONALO WAY.
>> ALL RIGHT. THE PUBLIC ASSEM RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
>> ALL OF IT. THE WHOLE SECTIOS CONDITIONAL USE. WHEN IT SAYS O
BE SOLD ONLY AT RETAIL? >> GONE. OKAY. SO CLARIFICATIT MEANS I CAN'T HAVE SOMEBODY RENE IN THERE AND SELL ANYTHING? NOTE, NO, THEY CAN'T DO RETAIL T OF THERE. AS LONG AS THEY ARE .
>> SO IF I HAVE A LADY THAT BUIS CANDLES, MAKES CANDLES. SHE CAL
THEM OUT OF HER SUITE IF I TAKE? >> THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE TRUE.F THE BIG THINGS IS WE HAVE CONDIS IN HERE WITH NO CONDITION.
>> UNDERSTOOD, THAT'S ONE EVER Y THINGS WE'RE GOING TO CORRECT TN
THE CODE. >> I MEAN, IF YOU'VE GOT A CONDE AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONDITIOT HAVE THAT USE ANYWAYS.
>> HOW WOULD YOU DO ANY OF THE L USES IF YOU DON'T SAY WHAT THE S ARE? I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING E APPLICATION. I THINK WHAT THEYO SAY IN THO THE APPLICATION IS TS ARE SUBJECT TO ONLY THOSE. THOT REALLY CONDITIONAL USES AS YOU'G
UNDER THE CODE, RIGHT? >> THESE ARE CONDITIONAL USES TY TO THE ABOVE. THEN HE LISTS THR FOUR, THREE, PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, C.
I'M LOOKING AT BA2 AND IT'S EXAD FOR WORD FOR BA2.
ARE WE DONE WITH THE LAP CAN'T? >> YEAH.
>> ANYMORE QUESTIONS? >> NO. STEVE, YOU MIGHT NOT WANO
FAR. WE MIGHT WANT TO ASK YOU . >> WHAT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OG IT TO NEXT MONTH AND GET IT FIXS GUY IN ARIZONA, HE IS LIKE IMPOO
GET IN TOUCH WITH. I SHOULD SA. >> WELL, MAKE A MOTION.
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>> THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOO. WAIT A SECOND. IN THE APPLICATE SAYS WHEN HE COPIED IT DIRECTLYE COMMERCIAL, SO THAT'S NOT EXACT.
>> SO THE THREE CAN CN NAL USE E LISTED UNDER USES ARE PUBLIC A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING AND LAND C THE OTHER USES HE LISTED HAVE NT CONDITIONAL USES. THOSE ARE USE GO TO THE NO. 2 ABOVE. IT SAYSN THE CODE IT SAYS THE ABOVE USE T TO THE FOLLOWING LIMITATIONS. E LIMITATIONS TO THAT SECTION 2 TE CITED.
>> THOUGH, WHERE YOU WERE STRIK, BUILDING AND USE IMMEDIATELY AND ACCESSORY. WHERE YOU WERE STWRG STRAINING SCHOOLS AND ALL.
THAT THAT SECTION UNDER CONDITIS UNDER THE CODE, THE ABOVE OR USS SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING LIMITAT 1 AND 2 MODIFY THE NO. 2.
>> OKAY. >> CONDITIONAL USES ARE ONLY APO
THOSE OTHER THREE THAT HE HAS L. >> OKAY.
SO A COURTNEY, WHAT YOU'RE SAYIT THE APPLICATION ISN'T WRITTEN V THAT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CL USES IF WE TAKE THOSE THREE OUTT STATEMENT ABOUT LIMITATIONS SHOE MOVED BACK UP INTO PERMITTED UST
>> ALL RIGHT. BUT WE STILL DONT CARE TAKER AND STUFF IN THERE.
>> ACTUALLY I DON'T SEE WHAT THM IS IF YOU LEAVE THE ANIMAL STUF.
>> WELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE 'L SELLING. IT'S GOING TO BE AWE E GENTLEMAN DESCRIBED, SOMEONE MIA BUSINESS THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETH GED THAT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR . WELL T A ONLY APPLIES TO THE AUE PARKING FACILITY, CENTRAL HEATID COOLING. RIGHT. NOSE ARE THE R
>> IT'S NOT WELL WRITTEN. CAN U COURTNEY HELP US OUT A LITTLE BS ONE? I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYT TO BUT, WELL, I THINK THAT WHATE TRYING TO GOAT GET TO IS UNDER S PERMITTINGED, YOU ARE WILLING TE FORWARD WITH, LET ME GO BACK TOS APPLICATION. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RG THE 5000 TO 4000.
>> CORRECT. >> SO UNDER THE CODE IT ONLY PRR
THAT WAS THE REASON. >> OKAY. SO WHAT YOU'RE TRYINGS DO THE 4000, WHICH IS LIMITED TS FOR ATTORNEYS, ENGINEERING OFFI, ACCOUNTING, AUDITING AND BOOK KG SERVICES, REAL ESTATE SALES, INE
COMPANIES AND FINANCE OFFICE OO. >> UH-HUH.
>> ADDITIONALLY, THE USES PERMIL BE THE BUILDING AND USES IMMEDID EXCLUSIVELY ACCESSORY TO THE USS PERMITTED IN ABOVE, INCLUDING AE PARKING FACILITIES. CENTRAL HED COOLING SYSTEMS. EMERGENCY GENG PLANTS. STORAGE OF DOCUMENTS AR PROPERTY. THOSE USES THAT ARE N THAT NO. 2 ARE THE ONES THAT ART TO THE FOLLOWING LIMITATIONS. E ONE AND TWO. THE SALE DISPLAY,R RACING AND STORAGE TO BE CONDUCA COMPLETELY ENCLOSED BUILDING. O DUBTS ONLY TO BE SOLD AT RETAIL.
RIGHT. >> AND YOU'RE LIMITING YOUR CONG
>> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> YES.
>> AND YOU'RE TAKING OUT THE LAF NO. 2, TRAINING, PLOY EMPLOYEESR CUSTODIAN AND QUARTERS. AND ANIMAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
SO TRAINING FOR EMPLOYEES. WHYE AGAINST THAT? 509 ONLY OTHER BUILDING IN CLAYD CLAY CHAMBER THAT IS DOING THIS, THEY RENT OUT 12 OFFICE SPACES F THEM IS FOR SOMEONE WHO TEACHESS AND THEY COME IN ON SATURDAY. A CPR CLASS, NO ONE IN THE BUILDII DON'T SEE THAT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT .
>> IT'S FINE. O OKAY. >> SO IT INCLUDES TRAINING SCHOR
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EMPLOYEES. >> SO JUST THE LIVING QUARTERS R
CUSTODIAN OR CARE TAKER? >> RIGHT.
>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. QUANT TO AMEND T.
SORRY. SO YOU'RE OKAY WITH WHAY SAID ST? I'M FINE WITH WHAT QUART ANY SAY MOTION.
>> EXPECT YOUR INCLUDING THE TRG SCHOOLS.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND WE'LL LEAVE THE ANIMAL HD WELLNESS IN THERE. THE ONLY THD TAKEN OUT IS LIVING QUARTERS ORN CARE TAKE EEMPLET WHICH SEEMS MS POINT BUT WHATEVER. MOVING ON.Y
MOTION. >> BUT IT'S IMPORTANT COURTNEY .
>> THAT'S WHAT WILL GO IN THE MO YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT COURTNEY..
SO MOVED. AND YOU WANT -- >> MY QUESTION IS HOW DID HANNAL THAT? THAT WAS EXTREMELY CONVOLUTED?
>> I THINK COURTNEY IS GOING TOE HANNAH THE FINAL WORDING SO SHET
IT INTO THE MINUTES? >> OKAY AS LONG AS WE GOT THAT.
THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTK WE'RE CLEAR ON IT TO RECOMMEND D WITH ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE'RED
BY COURTNEY. ANY OTHER DISCUSS? >> SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CAL.
THANK YOU COURTNEY OOF AND HANNS IMPORTANT TO GET THAT WORDING F.
OKAY. AND ONCE YOU HAVE THAT C YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE SURE OURT HAS IT TOO BECAUSE YOU'RE GOINGN THIS COMES BEFORE THE BBC.
>> ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. AND E MIKE WAS GOING ON THE EIGHT NEX NEXT WEEK SIR. DON'T FORGET. K AT THE BBC. OKAY. NEXT UP, WEA WHOLE SERIES OF ITEMS RELATED TE SARATOGA SPRINGS DRI. WE'RE GOO THESE AND HOPEFULLY WHAT WILL BT EFFICIENT MANNER, EEL WE'LL DO T
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, MISS CARSON HAS THAT ONE. ITN APPLICATION TO ABANDON THE SARAA SPRINGS DRI. YES SIR AND WITH YOUR PERMISSIOD LIKE TO ASK IF THE APPLICANT CAA BRIEF PRESENTATION AND I WILL FP WITH STAFF QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS. OKAY. AND THE APPLICANT IS HER.>> JERRY GRUS TI. FLORIDA FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS. ST GOING TO DO A BRIEF OVER VIEW B% YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. I'M GO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY AND THEN I'T OVER TO SUSAN WHO HAS A LOT MORL THAN I DO. SO IN 2000, PCI WHICH IS PREDISS INVESTMENTS BOUGHT 2421 ACRES, R DAIRY FARM, WRIETS WRIGHTS DAREN 2006 ORDER WAS ISSUED FOR THE SA SPRINGS DRI. AND THEN IN 2008 D IT JUST WENT INTO NOWHERE FOR T SO NOW THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SIN AND WHAT WE HAD AS A DRI BACK I6 ISN'T THE BEST FIT FOR THIS PROW BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE INST EVERYTHING THE COUNTY WAS GOINGT UNDER THE DRI, THEY GET THAT ANE UNDER THE CURRENT PLAN WHICH I'U IN JUST A SECOND. AND IN 2014 6 THE STATE ELIMINATED THE REGULAT THEY RAN FOR OTHER EXISTING DRIT WAS US. IN 2020 THE COUNTY CONM A MOBILITY FEE FOR TRANSPORTATIA MOBILITY FEE FOR TRANSPORTATIONN IN 2020 THEY ISSUED A A 130 MILR BOND ISSUE FOR IMPORTANT ROADS E UPGRADED ORBIT IN CLAY COUNTY AR THE ROADS WAS THE FIRST COAST CR WHICH GOES FROM 17 STRAIGHT WEST THROUGH SARASOTA SPRINGS. SO OY UNDER THE DRI, WE WERE RESPONSIR BUILDING THAT ROAD WHICH THE BIT CAME IN FOR AND IT'S $35 MILLIOY OPENED THEM THINK YESTERDAY. SE
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CHANGE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SINCE COUNTY WANTED THE ROAD NOW AND T IT, IT WOULD COME IN PIECES OVET TEN YEARS BUT THERE'S AN AH ACTF TRAFFIC WEST OF SARASOTA THAT NO COME EAST AND THIS ROAD FITS THO WE SWAPPED THAT RESPONSIBILITY T $50 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES. ANS TO BE A PLAN THAT WORKS. THE RS IN NOW, WE WOULD START BUILDINGH OR WITHOUT THE ROAD BECAUSE ABOE ESHZ OF THIS DOESN'T NEED THE FT CONNECTOR. THE REST OF IT DOESD USE CAME BEFORE YOU GUYS AND WAN TO THE BBC AND THE BBC APPROVEDT TO THE STATE. THE STATE TOOK AO MONTHS AND CAME BACK WITH NO MAR CHANGES. THE ONLY ISSUE THEY HH THE BLACK CREEK CRAWFISH, WHICHD NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE BUT APPARS POSSIBLY SOME BLACK CREEK CRAWFT BUT WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THAT HAT BECAUSE WE HAVE UP TO 100-FOOT S FROM THE CREEK UPLAND SO WE WONE TOUCHING THE BLACK CREEK, PETERK WHICH IS SUSPECTED HABITAT SO BY TAKEN BACK AND WE HAVE NO ISSUES BACK TO YOU GUYS AND THEN TWO WK TO THE BBC FOR FINAL APPROVAL SE NEAR THE END OF THE MONTH. SO D THAT, STHAS THE 20,000-FOOT LOOL TURN IT BACK OVER TO SUSAN FOR D LEVEL BOOK. THANK YOU. MISS CARSON DO YOU OWAIT 'TIL AFTER SUSAN SPEAKS? >> OKAY COME ON UP MISS FRASER .
SUSAN FRASIER. FLF CONSULTING, PARK STREET IN O VIVMENT BETH, IF WE COULD HAND E MAPS. THESE ARE KIND OF, YOU'LX HEARINGS AFTER THIS WHEN WE'RE D THESE MAPS I'M GIVING YOU SO IFA PEN, YOU CAN MARK WHAT PART OF E PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOE WE'RE GOING TO TALK OVERALL, 24, THE DRI WAS 2442. 20 ACRES CAMF THE DRI FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AN 2012 SO WE'RE TALKING 2420 ACRED SO I'LL LET BETH HAND OUT THE ID THEN WE'LL R- WE'LL START THE PRESENTATION. SO JUST FOR AN O, THE MAP THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GEE GOING TO GET TWO. THIS IS THE T SARATOGA SPRINGS LOOKS LIKE TODT GIVES YOU THE CONTEXT OF WHERE W INDICATED. THIS IS WHAT THE LAP LOOKS LIKE TODAY. AND THE SECOT ZOOMED IN A LITTLE BIT. THIS ID USE AMENDMENT THAT YOU APPROVE R TRANSMITTAL IN OCTOBER AND THATC TRANSMITTED TO STATE FOR REVIEWN OCTOBER. SO THIS IS WHAT WE HAL THE LAND USE IS APPROVED AND THT THE COUNTY HAS SAID WE THINK THE COULD BE, SHOULD BE. THE DEO HD ALL THEIR COMMENTS, THERE WERE S ON THE AMENDMENT AS PROPOSED ANT WILL NOT COME BACK TO THIS BOART WILL GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIOD THEY WILL CONSIDER THE RECOMMEND
THEY WILL ACT OWN THAT IN FEBRU. >> MISS FRASER, YOU KNOW WHAT MG
THEY WILL TAKE THAT UP? >> IT WILL EITHER BE THE EIGHT .
>> THIS MONTH? >> EIGHT OR 22.
>> I HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION U COMING UP.
>> OKAY. >> AND SO AS JERRY INDICATED, TG PICTURE OVER VIEW IS THAT THE DA PURPOSE AND DIRECTIONS 15 YEARSD QUITE A BIT HAS CHANGED IN THATF TIME SO IT WAS FOUND TO BE MOSTI GOWS TO ABANDON THE DRI AND PROR WHAT WOULD BE REGULAR LAND USE R ZONING CATEGORIES. SO THE STATS FOR THE ABANDON MENT OF A DRI AY INDICATED, THE STATE HAS REPEELI LEGISLATION. YOU CAN'T HAVE A E BUT IF YOU ARE ONE, THE RULES AO THE RULES ARE STILL THERE.
SO YOU HAVE TO GET UNTANGLED FRF YOU WANT TO BE SOMETHING ELSE. E ABANDON MENT OF A DRI IS TO MAKE SOMEONE DIDN'T START THE DRI, BF OF IT AND SAY I'M NOT GOING TO E AND LEAVE THE ROOM. AND IN ESSE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT WITH A BAGR BUILT OR A ROAD DIDN'T GET BUIL.
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ABANDONMENT IS DIFFICULT IF YOUT SOMETHING. IF YOU BUILD TWO HOS 2000 HOUSES, HAVE YOU TO SHOW WD BUILD, YOU AREN'T LEAVING A MESD WHEN YOU ABANDON. GO TO THE NEE PLEASE. SO IF WE ABANDON THIS T WILL REMOVE THIS REPEAL STATE SY REQUIRE MENT. SO THE STATE REQT IS DRI, IF IT'S APPROVED AS A DE DID NOT ABANDON IT, EVERY SINGLT COMES UNDER THAT BIG UMBRELLA OO THE HARBOR, THE FLEMING ISLAND , OAKLEY PLANTATION. THEY ARE ALO THEY HAVE A BIG PICTURE AND A LS THAT GO WITH THAT PICTURE AND EE YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, HAVE YOUE FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS AND REZONO WE'RE GETTING RID OF ALL THOSE THOSE LAYERS WERE STATE REVIEW.E STILL GOING TO DO YOUR REVIEW. E STILL GOING TO LIKE IT OR NOT LT DO IT AT A LOCAL LEVEL. WHAT IS THE STATE OVERSIGHT. THE STATEY PASSED DRI LEGISLATION IN 1975 W DEVELOPERS. I THINK YOU SAID TE LAST HEARING. THEY SAW DEVELOPG TO FLO FLORIDA AND A LOOKED AT W WILL CA GOVERNMENT AND SAW, THET ENOUGH STAFF TO GOMDOM THESE LOL GOVERNMENTS AND HAVE DIALOG WITA DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN WITH 30E ORS 4000 HOUSES. SO THE DRI PRS SET UP TO ASSIST LOCAL GOVERNMET WHAT THEY WERE DUE.ROADS AND SCHOOLS AND PARKS ANDE KINDS OF THINGS.
AND NOW SINCE 1975, WE'RE NOW 5S LATER, THE LEGISLATURE DECIDED L GOVERNMENTS HAVE THAT STAFF ANDR OWN INDIVIDUAL GOALS AND THAT SE OVERSIGHT ISN'T NECESSARY. WE'O SAY WE THINK CLAY COUNTY CAN REN IT'S OWN AND THAT ABANDON DRI DT LEAVE YOU IN THE POSITION OF LE YOU DON'T NEED THAT ASSISTANCE IF IT'S ABANDONED. THE COUNTY L REGULATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ON E YOU DO WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPES DRI IS ABANDONED.
SO CURRENTLY THE DRI LANDS ARE Y THREE ENTITIES.
THERE IS PETERS CREEK THAT OWNST MAJORITY OF THE ACREAGE. MUCH R PRICE OF THE CORPORATE RAIRGS. N 2020. THERE IS A WATER TREATMEY SITE THAT WAS SOLD TO THEM IN TE DEVELOPMENT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK , THIS PICTURE OF SARATOGA, WHAT G TO BE, EVERYTHING IS OWNED BY PT SEE HOW IT SAYS CC WAY UTILITY A FIVE HAIKER SITE THAT THEY OWN T NOTCH RIGHT THERE, MIKE HAS IT E BOUNDRIES. BUT THAT NOTCH IS WE HOLD IS. THEY OWN THAT 11 ACRED PCI OWNS EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO WE GOT LUCKILY THEY KNOW EACR WELL AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIALOD FORTH. SO WHEN THIS IS ABANDON, THE CONVERSATION IS AM I GETTINI HAVE NOW. ARE YOU LEAVING ME HOLDING THE S LESS FULL THAN I HAVE WITH THE D WE WOULD OFFER TO YOU THAT THIS APPLICATION WOULD NOT DO THAT. D BUFFERS TO PETERS CREEK THAT ARD TO THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER ARE THS WILL BE APPLIED UNDER THE PROPOA BRANDONMENT AND THE MASTER ARE E WEST SIDE OF THE CREEK. YOU'LLE CONDITIONS ON THE PUD ON THE OTF THE CREEK.
WILDLIFE CROSSINGS ARE REQUIREDE DEVELOPMENT ORDER WHERE THE FIRT CONNECTOR CHOSE CROSSES PETERS D THE COUNTY WILL PROVIDE THAT WHY BUILD THE FIRST COAST CAN CONNE THAT'S IN PLACE.
WET LAND CONVERSATION IS PROVIDN NINE DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND THATS IMPLEMENTED IN EXACTLY THE SAMEN THE LAND USE AND ZONING THAT YOL CONSIDER THERE'S LAKE ASBERRY GY WHICH IS ON THE WEST SIDE. LAKY AND CONVERSATION ON THE EAST SIY ARE THE SAME. WHY THEY ARE THES LAKE ASBERRY MASTER PLAN WAS ADN 2006 AND THIS WAS ADOPTED IN 20Y WERE BEING NEGOTIATED AT THE SAO WHILE THE STAFF AND COUNTY ARE S IS GOOD FOR ALL OF LAKE ASBERRYS LAND OWNER IS SAYING THIS IS GO WHETHER THEY LIKED IT OR NOT, TS THE SAME. SO THE DRI LOOKS LIKE ASBERRY SO WHEN YOU TAKE AWAY TD PUT LAKE ASBERRY IN, YOU'RE ESSY GETTING THE SAME THING. SO THES LOGGING AND SEVERAL RESTRICTIONE GREEN WAY. THOSE EXIST TODAY IE CONVERSATION LAND CATEGORY AND N
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WAY CATEGORY. AND THEN ALL DEVT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO FLOOD PLAIN REGULATIONS UNDER BOTH WHAT WE W AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING IN EXACTE MANNER. SO LEVEL OF SERVICE. E THINGS WE'RE SAYING AND WHAT WED WHAT WE'RE SEEKING. RECLAIM WAN THE DRI WAS APPROVED WAS NOT AVD THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT SAYST BECOMES AVAIL AICIALTIONZ YOU NO THIS, WELL, IT'S NOW AVAILABLE S MANDATORY UNDER THE CC WAY POLIO YOU'LL SEE RECLAIND SERVICES PRL THE DEVELOPMENT AND DRI. SO SIS COMMITTED IN THE DRI FOR FIRE RD LIBRARY USE IS CIVIC USE WILL B, DEDICATED TO CLAY COUNTY WITH CT AGREEMENTS. THE COUNTY COMMISSL CONSIDER THOSE AGREEMENTS BUT WE PROVISION, THE DRI SAID 2-ACRE E STATION, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FOUR FIRE STATION DONATION AT THIS P 2-ACRE CIVIC. THE COUNT TI SAYY BUILD LIBRARY FACILITIES AND THE PUBLIC PARK DEVELOPMENT IN THE T IS ALSO CARRIED FORWARD. YOU'LT IN THE ZONING HEARINGS LATER TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND YOUR H SCHOOL SITE COMMITTED IN THE DRN THE DRI IT SAID GIVE ME 77 ACREN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND YOUR OR H THOSE SITES ARE BEEN RELOCATED N COORDINATION WITH THE COOL DIST. STILL 77 ACRES. K THROUGH EIGHA HIGH SCHOOL AND SO THOSE LANDS N COMMITTED IN CREDIT AGREEMENTS E SCHOOL DISTRICT. THE COUNTY CON HAS SIGNED THOSE AGREEMENTS AS O THAT OBLIGATION IS ACTUALLY BETE THEY WERE BEFORE IS NOT SUIT ABE WITH THE LOW RELOCATION OF THE T CONNECTOR AND THE FACILITY TYPEW WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NEEDS.D A HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY NEED A KH 8 SO THEY ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THAD OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A YR HIGH. AND TRANSPORTATION IMPROS WHICH IS THE BIG REASON DRI'S WE WORLD IN THE FIRST PLACE, THAT E ACCOMPLISHED BY CLAY COUNTY. WY COUNTY PASSED THE BOND ISSUE. T COAST CONNECTOR. THAT BECAME SG THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT AND OPR TRAVEL IN 2024. SO YOU'LL BE AO TRAVEL FROM 17, SO YOUR MAP ORIN MAP FROM U.S. 17 ALL THE WAY TOE EXPRESS WAY ON A NAB FAB ROAD BT BY CLAY COUNTY AND THAT WILL STT CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR, RUN, RUE BACK IN 2024 AND IT WILL BE GRES WON'T BE THE SAME AS LAKE AS BET MOST OF THE CONSTRUCTION IS BETS AND THE TREES. THIS IS NOT THROUGH RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. THIS WILL BE A ROH VACANT LAND. SO THE DRI WAS SUD BUILD THAT ROAD BUT IT WASN'T SO BUILD IT ALL AT ONCE. IT WOULDM 17 TO 315 AFTER THEY BUILT 800 D THEN THE DRI OVER TEN, 12 YEARSN KICK IT OUT TO THE EXPRESSWAY. R THE DRI IF IT WAS NOT ABANDONEDY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOREBUILD THE T ROAD QUO EXIST BUT NOT A FULL CN FOR PROBABLY 15 YEARS. THAT'S W THE COUNTY SAY, WE GOT AN INTERN THE CALLS L- COWS AND TREES ANDT PEOPLE TO GET TO IT. THAT'S WHA CONCERN FOR THE COUNTY. IN STEPPING OUT OF THOSE SHOES,E DEVELOPER AND DEVELOPMENT ON THY WILL PAY MOBILITY FEES. THOSE Y FEES CURRENT INT DAY DOLLARS ANU KNOW THE MOBILITY FEE INCREASESH INFLATION EVERY YEAR. IT'S IN F $50 MILLION LAMPLET SO INSTEAD G THE ROAD, THEY WILL PUT THAT MOE POT AND THE COUNTY WILL DO WHATS IS THE PRIORITIES AND BUILD WHAS IS APPROPRIATE. BUT THAT CASH E TO THE COUNTY TO PUT TO TRANSPON FACILITIES.>> AND SO I SAID ABANDONING A DG QUERKS THE NEXT ONE, IS HAVE YOT
ANYTHING OR LEAVING ANY MESSES ? >> WELL, SO THE FIRST QUESTION,E ANY PER R PERMITS IS UD OOR FO S DEVELOPMENT? THERE ARE. A FORMER WET LAND DETERMINATION THAT SETS THE WETD BOUNDRY WRLT DATES ARE ACTUALLYT EXTENDED TO 2025. THAT WAS JUSD DECEMBER A MONTH AGO. THRTION R TOWER TUESDAY PERMIT. THAT FEEN PAID SO THEY HAVE RITES TO IMPAR TORTOISES UNDER THAT PERMIT. BG
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QUESTION IS HAS ANYTHING BEEN B? AND SO THE REAL BIG QUESTION ISEANYONE DEVELOPED TRACKS? >> THE ANSWER IS THEY ARE ALL UD BECAUSE KNOCK HAS BEEN CONSTRUCE 20 ACRES THAT WENT TO THE SCHOOT IS NOT IN THE DRI TODAY BUT IT'. IT WILL START CONSTRUCTION PRET.
AND SO THE BIG PART OF THE STATY REQUIRE MENT IS HAVE YOU BUILT G
OR LEAVE US WITH A MESS? >> AND WE WOULD OFFER BUILT NOTD LEAVING YOU A MESS AND WHAT WE E OFFERING IS A BETTER THAN WHAT D WITH THE OLD PROGRAM. IF YOU WE MAPS ARE, AND ARE THERE ANY MATL IMPACTS? THIS IS, YOU BUILT NOTHING, I'MG BEHIND NOTHING THAT YOU WOULD RD SO THE MAPS ARE REALLY THE MAPSN TO YOU. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAN WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LAND USS HEARING BUT IT GIVES YOU THE BOE BOUNDRY IS THAT DARK DASH LINE.A INCLUDES ALL THAT LAND. ALL THN 315. A MIEFL FRONTAGE ON 315 I IT'S CURRENTLY ALLEN TITLED FORI FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL ALL THE WN 315. THAT IS NOT THE PROPOSAL G FORWARD BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE A AND THEN THE NEXT MAP IS WHAT IE YOU OF A HARD COPY AND I GAVE IN A HARD COPY BECAUSE THESE SLIDEG TO GO WAY.
YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU ARA PIECE OF PAPER SO THE, SO THIS E WE'RE HEADED. THIS IS WHAT YOU TRANSMITTED.
THIS IS WHAT THE COUNTY COMMISSN TRANSMITTED AND WHAT THE STATE O COMMENTS ON. AND SO THE LAST IS THE SCHEDULEN STEP INTO BETH'S SHOES. IT WAS TRANSMITTED IN OCTOBER. WE HADS IN OCTOBER. DEO PROVIDED THEIRS ON JANUARY 14TH BUT THEY DID NOE ANY COMMENTS AND THE ADOPTION HZ SCHEDULED, THE FIRST MEETING ORD MEETING OF THIS MONTH. SO THATD USE STEP. BUT BEFORE WE CAN, WA LAND USE CALLED PLANNED COMMUNIT PLANNED COMMUNITY IS TIED TO THO STEP NO. 1 IS TO ABANDON THE DRN THE SECOND IS TO REPLACE THE LAH APPROPRIATE CATEGORIES. SO BETH, SORRY.
>> I'M JUST GOING TO GO THROUGHS QUICKLY. THIS IS ITEM DWRKS RI2 SEASON SARATOGA SPRINGS ABANDONT THIS.
SI A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDERE ABANDON MENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THIS IS WITHIN THE PENNY FARMS.T FIVE. COMMISSIONER BURKE AND YD ALREADY THE APPLICANTS RINE HOLD APPLICATION.
PETER CREEKS INVESTMENTS AND CLY UTILITY AUTHORITY. THE RECOMMEN FROM STAFF IS BASED ON NONE OF E DEVELOPMENT AS ENTITLED UNDER TE DEVELOPMENT ORDER HAS TAKEN PLAE ANY IMPACT MITIGATION DONATIONSN RECEIVED BIT COUNTY. SO STAFF S RECOMMENDED IN SUPPORT OF THE RO ABANDON THE SARATOGA SPRINGS DR. JUST TO GIVE YOU A SCHEDULE EART IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING. WE'RS STEP, FEBRUARY 1, THE DRI ABAND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGT TUESDAY, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COS WILL FIRST HERE DEVELOPMENT AGRS REGARDING FIRE STATION AND PARKD DONATIONS. THAT ITEM WILL BE FY THE DRI ABANDON MENT. THE ITEME HEARING RIGHT NOW. THE NEXT ITEM WILL BE TO CONSIDA DOCHTION THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENS RETURNED FROM THE STATE. THEN L ALSO HERE ITEMS FROM MIKE BROWNT AND THE APPLICANTS FOR REZONE GE REZONE GZ WILL HAVE TO FOLLOW TP PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE AMENDMENG CONSIDERED NEXT WEEK. THE REZOL BE CONSIDERED AT THE 22 MEETING.
AND JUST TO BRING YOU UP TO DATT WAS TRANSMITTED. SO AT YOUR MEN OCTOBER 5TH, YOU VOTED 7 TO 0 DO TRANSMIT THAT THE RECOMMENDATIOE MIXED USED BASED IN THE CITY BEO INCREASE FROM 16 TO 20 WITH A BF ADDITIONAL FOUR DWELLING UNITS E FOR LOW OR MODERATE INCOME OR HP
INDIVIDUALS. >> AT THE BOARD'S MEETING ON THY
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VOTED 5 TO 0 TO TRANSMIT WITH TM EE GRETS MIXED USE CAP AT THE CT POLICY AT 75 ACRES AND NOT INCRO 90 AND ALSO THAT THE BASE DENSID REMAIN AT 16 DWELLING UNITS PERT THE DENSITY OF FOUR UP TO 20.SO THEY LIKED YOUR IDEA OF THE S DENSITY BUT NOT QUITE THAT HIGHS
>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. DO YOU HY QUESTIONS?
>> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FO? >> GO AHEAD.
>> I'M JUST CURIOUS ON PAGE TWOE PACKET FOR THIS UNDER FLORIDA S0 HT ZERO HT SIX IT ADDRESSES THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT IT SAYS IF REQUESTED BY OWNER DP ERROR LOCAL GO.
THE DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPR MUST BE A BOON DONNED BY LOCAL T HAVING JURISDICTION UPON SHOWINL REQUIRED MITIGATION RELATED TO E DEVELOPMENT TO THE DATE OF A BAN MENT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND SO O FORGE. MY QUESTION IS MUCH. IA FUNCTION OF DO THEY MAKE THE APN
AND THIS MUST BE APPROVED? >> THIS PORTION OF THE STATUE GD TALKS ABOUT HOW YOU ARE TO DEALH ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN BUILT.
>> BUT IF NOTHING HAS BJ BUILT? THAT'S WHY IT WASN'T INCLUDED.
>> SO NOTHING HAS BEEN BUILT. S BEEN MITIGATION HAS NOT BEEN PR.
>> I THINK THAT'S MY QUESTION, F THAT HAS HAPPENED, THEN MUST WE, IT GIVES US A DE COLOR TORY STA I'M JUST TRYING TO A UNDERSTAND.
>> I HAVE YOU TO ALLOW THEM TO O DONE IF THEY WISH.
>> SURE AND THIS MAKES COMPLETEO ME.
I WAS CURIOUS WITH THAT LANGUAGI GOT STUCK.
>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. LET'S SEE. YOU HAVE DONU
WANT ON THIS RIGHT? >> YES. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE C I DON'T THINK I ACTUALLY HAVE AN THIS ONE. DOES ANYONE HERE SWAK SPECIFICALLY OF THE ABANDON MENT DRI?
>> OKAY. SEEING THAT I'M GOINGE THE PUBLIC HEARING CH AND BRINGO THE BOARD FOR AN ACTION. AND IE ABOUT MUST AND SHALL AND MAY. R POLITICIANS HAVE DECIDED THOSE T EVER THEY WANT THEM DO.
>> I'LL MOVE STAFF REPORT. I'LL SECOND.
>> ALL RIGHT. MRS. BOURRE MOVD MR. NORTON SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR VOR STATE.
>> ALL RIGHT. OKAY. BEFORE WEE NEXT ITEM. WE'VE BEEN SITTING A WHILE. WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD SPOTN IT MINUTES. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL BE BACK HERE .
>> >> THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS., TH,
[7. Public Hearing to consider REZ-2021-11. ( District 5, Comm Burke) (M. Brown)]
[8. Public Hearing to consider REZ-2022-01. (District 5, Comm Burke) (M. Brown)]
[9. Public Hearing to consider REZ-2021-19. (District 5, Comm Burke)(M. Brown)]
THERE'S FIVE ITEMS ASSOCIATED WS SARATOGA SPRINGS ISSUE AND WHATD LIKE TO DO IS SKIP OVER ITEM 6 T NOW AND LET'S DO 7, 8 AND 9 TOG THOSE ARE ALL IN I BELIEVE IN TS BURY MASTER PLAN AREA. WE CAN Y TALK ABOUT ALL 36 THOSE AT ONCEU WANT.>> I'M TRY OOG. >> COMMISSION, CORRECT ME IF I , YOU HAVE ITEMS, IF I RECOGNIZE , THE ONES WE WANT TO DO RIGHT NO, 21-11, RIGHT. 2201?
>> YES, DASH 01 AND 21-19. YOUN THROUGH THOSE THREE FOR US.
>> YEAH. ALL RIGHT. 2111, LETA SUMMARY FOR ALL OF THESE, THEY L
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GOING TO THE LAND IEWZ USE IS LY MASTER USE PLAN AND VILLAGE CENZ Z21-11, ONE OF THE ITEMS, IN LAY MASTER PLANNED IS A REQUIRE MEND WILL GO TO THE BASE ZONING FOR D USE AND THAT IS REALLY WHAT IS G ALL THESE THREE ZONING CHANGES.E ALL OF THOSE ZONING CHANGES ARET OR THE BASE ZONING FOR THE LANDE CHANGES SO WITH THAT, Z21-11 ISE REZONING OF A TOTAL OF 1809 ACRD TO 1114 ACRES LAKE ASBURY MASTEN COMMUNITY, 46 ACRES OF LAKE ASBE CENTER AND 350 ACRES OF LAKE ASSBURY GREEN WAY. >>> LET ME INTERRUPT YOU JUST A SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, IF YOUT THE MAP SUZANNE GAVE US, EVERYTT OF PETERS CREEK WHICH IS STH GRY THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF IT, THAT L GOING TO END UP WHEN THE BOARD E LAND DUES, THAT'S ALL GOING TO S LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN AREA. T WHATEVER IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING EVERYTHING WELS OF PETERS CREEK. GO HEAD MIKE.
>> AND THAT IS Z2201 IS THE 11 T IS THAT LITTLE CORNER THAT IS OY RINE HOLD IN CORPORATION. THATG FROM THE PRES PRESENT REQUEST FE PRESENT PUD, ZONING OF LAKE ASBR PLAN COMMUNITY CONSISTENT WITH O PIEWS POSED USE LAND CHANGE ANDN Z21-19 IS A REZONING OF 5 ACRESM THE EXISTING PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMO PS2, PRIVATE SERVICES.
PS2 IS ALLOWED IN THE LAND USE E THIS.
IS THE 5 ACRES THAT CCUA OWNS TE UTILIZED FOR UTILITIES AND APPRE
ZONING IS PS2. >> THAT'S A QUICK SUMMARY OF ITU WANT MORE DETAILS, BUT REALLY CE ZONING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING TO WHAT FUTURE LAND IS PO BE.
>> I THINK, SUSAN, DO YOU WANT Y FARTHER INFORMATION ON THIS, THE ITEMS ABOUT CHANGING THE BASE Z? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ON THE.
>> I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FF YOU DON'T MIND.
>> MY PRESS ER INEXPECTATION REE IS GIVING YOU A BUNCH OF ACREAGM
HAPPY TO GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY. >> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, THIST GOES FROM THE NEW EXPRESSWAY, IT RECALL ON THE CONNECTOR OVER TOS THAT THING IN THE COUNTY'S BUDGE WAY FROM THIS INTERCHANGE?
>> CORRECT. >> THIS PART THAT'S WHITE ON TH?
>> YES. >> AND SO THAT WHOLE PIECE AND E
HOLD IS RESPONSIBLE FROM THIS W? >> CORRECT,.
>> AND TELL ME HOW YOU WOULD LIO HANDLE THIS. WE RECEIVED A REQM SEVERAL OF THE COMMISSIONERS FRE OR JERRY TO TALK ABOUT THE DEVET THAT'S COMING. WHO THEY TALKEDD WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT IN THE DET ON THIS FRORT. IS THAT GOING TE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO HEAR NOW BEFU CONSIDER ALL THIS OR AT THE ENDU HAVE VOTED?
>> IF I MAY MR. CHAIR. >> GO AHEAD MR. BOURRE.
>> I HAVE TO SAY THAT I SPENT TH MR. EAGAN GOING THROUGH THIS SOI WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ON D AND TWO, I WOULD OFFER SINCE THH A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING HOW THIS T WE INVITE THEM DOM UP AND GIVE T PRESENTATION AND FROM AN EDUCATL STANDPOINT AND THEM CONL BACK.
OKAY. AND I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. AM GETTING HEAD OF US HERE BUT SINE TALKING ABOUT THE ROADS FOR A MY
DPOWNT HERE, THIS DOTTED LINE. >> UH-HUH.
>> WHICH I THINK IS A REALIGNME? >> IT IS.
>> IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS SOM. THE REALIGNMENT OF 15 IS A CONTF THE PARK PUD AND WHEN YOU LOOK S MAP, YOU'LL SEE THIS BLUE THING THAT IS CALLED THE PETERS CREEKS PARK.
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>> OKAY. >> IT'S OWNED BY ONE OF THE GENN THE O AUDIENCE BUT IT IS A TOTAY DIFFERENT ENTITY.
THAT IS ENTITLED FOREST DEN SHAD A CONDITION FOR THAT REZONING AT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. IT'S A FUTURE CONDITION FOR SOME
TO DO. >> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED .
OKAY. WHO WANTS TO GIVE THE PRESENTAT?
>> AL I WILL. >> ALL RIGHT. MR. EAGAN.
>> GEORGE 18 TOWN CENTER BOULEVD THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY JK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE BG ON FOR 18 MONTHS NOW. OUR ASPIR THE PROPERTY ARE VERY HIGH. WHE STARTED UP WITH A DRI, AGAIN, TT OF ASPIRATIONS, RECESSION COMESS OF THINGS CHANGE AND THE MARKETS RETURNED AND WE'VE SPENT THE LAO A YEAR INTERVIEWING A DOZEN DIFT DEVELOPMENT PARTNERS. MYSELF, , MEMBERS OF THE RINE HOLD FAMILY.
WE INTERVIEWED THE PEOPLE AND WO THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AND TALKED TR LAND PARTNERS AND WHEN THE DUSTD THERE WAS ONE GROUP THAT WAS PAY HEAD AND SHUL DERDZ A OF BOT REE STILL HAVEN'T INKED THE DEAL YET DISCLOSE WHO IT IS BUT I WANT TU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY ARO DO, THEIR CURRENT PLAN IS TO KEE SARATOGA NAME, SARATOGA SPRINGSE ENTIRE PARCEL WILL BE DEVELOPEDE COMMUNITY THEME. ONE COMMUNITY ONE COMMUNITY NAME. AND ONE OF THEIR KEY COMPONENTST THEY CALLED AGO GRA HOOD. AND E THIS IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WHERY ACTUALLY HAVE A COMMUNITY FARMSY GROW FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FOR E BENEFITS OF OF THE RESIDENTS. E PROFESSIONAL FARMERS ON SITE THE CARE OF THIS. THEY HAVE BARNS P WHERE YOU CAN BUY THINGS AND ITT KIND OF COMMUNITY AMENITY WHICHY GOES WELL WITH THE LAND I THINKL WITH THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE ANOTHER DYNAMIC IS THEY REALLY N YER, THEY ARE PROUD OF THEIR LYR PARKS, WHEN I SAY LYNN YER PARKA LENGTHY PARK THAT WILL RUN THROG SEGMENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN WALK FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER G THESE PONDS AND GA GEORGIA ZEE BOS AND THE E INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT. IN ADDO WHICH, SO THIS ROAD THAT WILL GE SILOS OVER TO SHADOW ELEMENTARYD IS 155 FEET WIDE. THE TYPICAL H IN A CLAY COUNTY ROAD IS EITHERE ROAD. A WIDE BOULEVARD OKAY ANR PARTNER, ONCE WE GET THIS THINGD WILL TAKEOVER THE MAINTENANCE OE LANDSCAPE AS WILL RINE HOLD ON YOU'LL DRIVE FROM THE SILOS WHIS ALMOST 4 MILES AND YOU'LL HAVE T BEAUTIFUL BOULEVARD THAT GOES TE CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTY. FRE HOLD'S PERSPECTIVE, THIS SETS UT OF OUR LAND. WE WERE ON SHUS TG SURE WE HAVE A GOOD PARTNER TO O SET UP THIS THEME OF THE WE'VE G ALL THIS WORK IN RINE HOLD AND E HOLD BOUGHT THE LAND IN 1932 SOI WE'RE ON OUR 90TH ANNIVERSARY OG THE BIG CHUNK OF LAND AND WE'REA REALLY GOOD POSITION TO DO SOMET IN THE CENTRAL PART OF COUNTY R.
SO JERRY AND I ARE PROUD OF WHEE WITH OUR PARTNER. WE THINK WE A GREAT PARTNER AND IT WILL BE A T ADDITION TO CLAY COUNTY. IT'S G TO BE 100 UNIT CUL DA SACKS WITE HOUSES. IT WILL BE A GREAT DIVF HOUSES AND OUR HOPE IS 20, 30 YM NOW IT WILL BE A COMMUNITY THATN ABLE, HAS LOTS OF ENERGY AND A E TO LIVE IN A PROVEN QUALITY OF E LOOK FORWARD TO INTRODUCING TO E DEVELOPER IN THE NOT TOO DISTANE AND LET THE DEVELOPER EXPLAIN IE DETAIL. THEIR VISION FOR THE LT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT ANDE YOUR TIME WITH THIS BIG LIFT HE
>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. MISS FRASER. DOT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? I THINK WE'RE.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVE IT,G TO SAY BUT IF YOU WANT TO TALK T
IT, I'M HAPPY TO TALK. >> LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE AT.
>> WE HAVE TO TAKE THESE THREE THERE ARE ACTUALLY THREE OF THEE
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HAVE TO TAKE THEM SEPARATELY ANY REASON WE'RE DOING THEM SEPARATE HAVE THREE LAND OWNERS INVOLVEDE CLAY COUNTY YOU 'TIL CITY HOMPLE>> PCI. AND THEY ARE THE THREE LAND OWNH ONE EVER THESE TAKES CARE OF THR ACREAGE, THAT'S WITHIN THE MAST, LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. SO WIT I'LL BRING IT BACK FOR MOTION AD DISCUSSION. LET'S START WITH NO. 7 ON OUR AT WOULD BE REZ-2021-11. THAT'S TE 1809 ACRES.
MR. NORTON AND MR. BORGE H- BOUS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
>> ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVE STAFF REPORT, SAY I. I.
>> NO. 8 ON OUR AGENDA, THIS IS REZ2022-01, IT'S 11, A LITTLE O1 ACRES, I THINK THIS IS THE LITTE THAT STICKS OUT THERE. SAME TH.
DID YOU DO PUBLIC HEARING FOR A? >> WE NEED THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> I GOT SO CARRIED AWAY. THANK YOU.
>> ED, THANK YOU. >> I FORGOT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC WE HAVE TO STOP THAT FOR A MINU. WAS THERE ANYTHING ONE THAT WANO SPEAK ON THESE OTHER THAN THE AL CAN'T THAT WAS HERE? ONLY THE GUY IN THE BACK. DO YA MAP OF WHERE THAT IS IT?
>> COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE BEE EVERYTHING GETS RECORDED AND WE-
>> I SAID IS THERE ANY MAP ON WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?
IT'S ON COUNTY ROAD 315,. >> I LIVE ON COUNTY ROAD 315 ANT
DOWN THERE AT THAT HARD 90 DEGR. >> OKAY. SO IT'S JUST SOUTH OFS
THE OLD DAIRY PLACE BASICALLY. >> SO THAT'S RIGHT WHERE I'M NE.
>> OKAY. I CAN SHOW YOU. >> YOU SHOW ME THAT NEW ROAD.
>> HERE'S TD 90, RIGHT. >> AND THAT'S 315 AND IT'S ALL T
PROPERTY THERE. >> OKAY. I NEED TO SPEAK ON THT
>> SO HIS PARCEL IS PARCEL EAST. >> AND HE IS ON EAST AND HE HAS SO WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I'LL MAE GET YOU.
>> SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLICN THESE THREE ITEMS. SO LET'S DON SO WE HAVE IT CONNECT. ITEM N, HEZ-2021-11, MAKE YOUR MOTION AL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TE A.
WE REVOTED ON NO. 7. WE HAVE TO YES.
DO THINGS IN THE RIGHT ORDER. NO. NOW 8. REZ-2022-01. THAT'R
SO ACRES, SAME CHANGES, HAVE A ? >> I MOVE APPROVAL.
>> MR. GARRISON. >> AND A SECOND, MR. NORTON ON ?
>> FURTHER DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR STATE I. >> I.
>> AND THEN NO., IET UMM NO. 9 S REZ-2021-19. THIS IS THE 5 ACRY CLAY UTILITIES. AND THIS ONE W2 BUT STILL THE BASE ZONING FOR T?
>> WELL, PS2 IS ALLOW ABLE IN TD USE CATEGORY.
IT'S AN ALLOW ABLE ZONING DISTR. AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT SEWERO
>> ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION ON THA? MR. NORTON?
>> AND A SECOND FROM MR. DAVIS I HEARD.
>> OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, STATE I. >> I.
[6. Public Hearing to consider PUD-2021-06. (District 5, Comm Burke)(M. Brown)]
>> WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK AND K UP TO ITEM 6 NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO NOW TALK ABOUT PY THAT IS EAST OF PETERS CREEK. U WANT TO START MIKE OR DO YOU WAO START?
>> IT'S UP TO THE PLEASURE OF B. GO HEAD. TELL US WHAT YOU GOT.E GOING TO DO THIS ONE AT A TIME E LOOKING AT NO. 6. NO. 6.
>> THAT'S PUD-2021-06. >> OKAY. PUD-2021-06 OF.
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>> UH-HUH. >> PETERS CREEK INVESTMENT IS TE APPLICANT. ALL OF THESE WILL GE BOARD, ALL OF THE REZONINGS WILE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON FEBRUARY 22. THIS IS AN APPLICO REZONE 485, ALMOST 486 ACRES FRO PUD IS. THE COMPANION LAND USEL CHANGE THE PROPERTY UNDER THIS N TO RURAL FRINGE FUTURE LAND USES A LITTLE BACKGROUND, TODAY UNDE, THIS IS TOWN CENTER AND NEIGHBOD ZONING WITH SOME WET LAND CONSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS EAR MARKED UND OR UNDER THE DRI. HERE IS A MAG THE AREA AND HERE'S AN AERIAL. R AREA AS THEY INDICATED IS THE LY MASTER PLANNED AREA. THE UNDERD IT WILL MEET THE STANDARDS FOR L FRINGE FUTURE LAND USE. WHAT TE APPLICANT HAS DONE IS IN THE PUY BROUGHT FORWARD THE DEVELOPMENTS OF THE LAKE ASBURY OVER LAY ANDR PLANNED AREA TO THIS AREA SO THN CONSISTENT DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. THL MATCH ALMOST VER VIRGINIA OO SPR BAY TUM THE SAME USES AND DEVELS
THAT YOU FIND IN THE LAKE. >> LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN FOR L FRINGE AND AGAIN, THIS IS A REQO CHANGE FROM PUD TO PUD FOR 459.
STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE REQUES CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDINGG DISTRICTS AND USES COME PAT ABLE SURROUNDING AREA AND STAFF RECOS
APPROVAL OF PUD-2021-06. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> OKAY. APPLICANT? >> GOOD EVENING. SUSAN PHRASE PARK STREET IN JACKSONVILLE. TE WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER I M SO MIKE, IF WE COULD HAND OUT. D OUT WHAT THEY GOT AND WHAT THEYG TO AND IF YOU'LL PUT MY PRESENTP AND WE'LL GEAR OURSELVES UP. SA GOOD NUMBER THERE. IF EVERYONEE ONE OF THOSE AND THEN GET MIKE R THESE AS WELL. I DON'T WANT TOP AND GET CLOSE WITHOUT A MASK. O MAKE SURE OUR RECORDING CLERK GE TOO. THANK YOU SIR.
>>> AND SO IF YOU TAKE WHAT I HU AND JUST SET IT ASIDE. I DON'TO INTERRUPT THE PRESENTATION BUT S MATERIALS WE'LL GO OVER A LITTLE GO TO THIS PRESENTATION. MIKE R POINT THAT WILL HELP US LOOK, AE IS THIS BROORT LOCATED AND WHATE TODAY AND WHAT ARE WE HEADED TO.
>> AGAIN, THIS IS A PIECE OF THE 2421 ACRES IN THE DRI. 450 ACRT IS THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF TT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CREEO AS MIKE HAD INDICATED, THAT IS N YOU DO THE ROYAL FRINGE ONE.
>> IS IT ON THIS ONE OR SEPARAT? >> NO, IT'S A SEPARATE ONE. I
SUSAN I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TH. >> OH, OKAY.
I DO APOLOGIZE. WELL, THEN WE'Y GOOD. WE GOT SOME HAND JOWTS. S
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BRING YOUR PAPER. SO THIS AGAIO WE'LL USE THE PAPER. SO THIS ME LAND USE THAT TRANSMITTED IN, TY TRANSMITTED IN OCTOBER. SO WE'K TION ABOUT THIS ROYAL FRINGE THE EAST SIDE OF THE CREEK. FRONT , I'M SORRY. COUNTY ROAD 315. TS MIXED USE.THIS IS COMMERCIAL. THE FIRST T CONNECTOR RUNS THROUGH THE MIXED COMMERCIAL AND THIS ALLIES SOUT SO THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS O 315. DIRECT ACCESS TO 315. THX IS ELEMENTARY R. SO ELEMENTARYL START CONSTRUCTION SHORTLY IF NT YESTERDAY. AND SO THIS IS THE L PIECE OF THE PROJECT THAT IS O G LAKE ASBURY SO THE LAKE ASBURY S THE CREEK AND IF IT WAS NOT THER INTENTION WAS TO SAY THAT ALL OS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE SUBJECTE SAME REQUIREMENTS OF THIS PROPEF IT WERE IN LAKE AS BUR RIVMENT E WAY TO DO THAT IS WE DID IT IN D WRITTEN STATEMENT. AND SO WE'LK THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT SO YOE
>>> SO THE FIRST ITEM MIKE GAVES ACTUALLY, CAN I HAVE ONE OF THO,
PLEASE? >> SO THE PACKET THAT LOOKS BLUT SAYS WRITTEN STATEMENT AT THE T. THIS IS WHAT IS IN YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION PACKET AND IF YOU LOE BOTTOM, IT SAYS AUGUST 31, 2021, THIS IS WHAT OUR APPLICATION LOE AND WE ATTENDED THE DEVELOPMENTW COMMITTEE AND RECEIVED SOME COMM THE STAFF AND WE ALSO WENT TO TG AFTER AUGUST, WE WENT IN OCTOBEE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AE COUNTY DMITION COMMISSIONER SAIT MIND MIXED USED BUT WE THINK THS ALREADY ENOUGH MIXED USE. WHEND USE GOT SMALLER. IT WENT FROM , THE ROYAL FRINGE GOT BIGGER SO. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S IN YOURN THE VERY FIRST PAGE, IT SAYS TO 44392. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ONT HANDED OUT, AND THE STAFF REPORD ON THE CORRECT ONE. IT'S JUST R PACKET. THE APPLICATION IS NOWR BECAUSE MIXED USE GOT SMALLER WE BOARD IN OCTOBER SAID 75 ACRES D USE IS REALLY ALL YOU NEED. ANT I'VE DONE FOR YOU AND I WANT TOU THROUGH IS WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOUR YOUR HOMEWORK OVER THE WEEKEND E TWO CHANGES BETWEEN WHAT YOU RET WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR. AND IT SUBSTANTIVE BUT IT'S NOT THE SAI WANT TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE DIFFEE AND YOU CAN DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLO THE FIRST PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT I HANDED YOU IT SAYS AUGUST 31, O, JANUARY 7, THAT'S THE CURRENT WN STATEMENT SO IT'S BEEN AMENDED .
AND THE CHANGES ON THE FIRST PA. >> SORRY. DO YOU HAVE BOTH?
>> YOU RAN OUT. YOU DIDN'T HAVH COPIES.
A WHICH ONE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? >> DID YOU PASS OUT ONE OF EACH?
>> I DID. YES. >> SHE DID BUT THE SECOND ONE SD HERE. DO YOU HAVE THE AUGUST 31, 2021? THERE'S A LOTERE A LOT OF THOSE. AND THIS IS ONE.
COURTNEY O, DO WE NEED MORE COP? >> NO BUT I'M SAYING, LANCE NEE
LET ME HAVE ONE FOR THE -- >> OKAY. HERE'S ONE -- AND THEL SIMPLE, JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTI DON'T WANT YOU THINKING --
>> SO ON THE FIRST PAGE OF WHATR PACKET, THERE'S A TABLE THAT SAL DEVELOPMENT CON 1ER INVESTIGATIL FRINGE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONEE THREE DATES IN THE BOTTOM, THATE CORRECT DATE.
SO THE TOTAL PARCEL IS 458.28 BE MITCHED USE GOT SMALLER AND ROYE GOT BIGGER BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKINS MAP. MIXED USE GOT SMALLER BECE COUNTY SAID 75 IS ENOUGH. SO T5 ACRES EE SEN SHALLY MOVED DOWN T WENT FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. THY JUST MOVED.
458 OF THAT, THERE'S 57 ACRES OF CONSERVATION AND JUST AT 401 ACF
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ROYAL FRINGE AND ON THE OLD ONES 386 ACRES OF RURAL FRINGE. THAE MASMGHT THE DEVELOP ABLE ACREAGE TOLE IT YOU, A WET LAND DE LYNNN THAT YOU SAW IN THE PERMIT THAT THAT'S FOR THE MAJOR WET LAND S THE FACT THAT WHEN WE GO TO DEV, THERE MIGHT BE SCATTERED WETLANT ESTIMATION IS LOW FOR FLORIDA BR THIS PROPERTY.>> WE SAID ABOUT 5% IS PROBABLYS BECAUSE THIS IS CATTLE GRAZING E CATTLE HAVE BEEN EVERY WHERE ANE REQUIRED TO TELL YOU. THE CONSS A BOUNDRY. IT IS IN THAT WET LD DELINEATION PERMIT. BUT THERE E INCIDENTAL WETLANDS HANGING AROD WE'RE ESTIMATING 5% OF THE TOTAE CHANGES TO THIS FIRST PAGE, DIFT ACREAGE, THE STAFF REPORT IS BAE CORRECT ACREAGE. NOT A PROBLEM. THAT IN THE DOCUMENT YOU GOT, OE NO. 2, THERE'S WHAT I CALL, WHAF CALLS SUSAN'S DESCRIPTIONS AND S GIVE A HISTORY OF WHAT HAS GONEE I PROBABLY KNOW MORE THAN ANYBOS BEEN GOING ON BECAUSE I'VE BEENT LONG. SO I WRITE A BIG STORY TT USED TO BE BLUE AND NOW IT'S GRE THINK WE WANT IT TO BE PURPLE.
WHEN THE STAFF SAID WE LOVE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THE WRITTN STATEMENT. SO WE TOOK IT OUT. N YOU LOOK AT THE ONE THAT WE HAVE YOU, THE FIRST HEADING THAT YOUT SITE PLAIN REVIEW. A DESCRIPTIE PROPERTY AND IT SAYS SITE PLAN . WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE,O IS MISSING AND THE TOP OF PAGE S MISSING AND IT STARTS WITH SITEN REVIEW. SO THE PIECE THAT IS MISSING ISR ABOUT WHERE YOU'VE BEEN AND WHEU GOING AND HOW WE GOT HERE. OKA EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME. EG ELSE IS EXACTLY THE SAME. WHENO WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET THAW THATT ALL WEEKEND READING. SO AGAIN Y TYPED PAGE. GO TO 14, IT SAYS E BOTTOM, IT'S 14 IN THE STAFF RED IT'S 9 OF THE WRITTEN STATEMENTS THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE FROM WHATU STUDIED ALL WEEKEND. AND SO THB LETTER 2. OR PARAPHOTOGRAPH 2 S RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE. ANDE APPLICATION YOU THOUGHT YOU REAS THE PRIMARY PARK WILL BE A 19-A WELL, BETWEEN THE APPLICATION I, THIS PARK WAS A PUBLIC PARK IN , AFTER TALK WITH THE LAND OWNERSE A PRIVATE PARK AND THEN WITH MOT TURNED INTO A PUBLIC PARK, OKAYF YOU GO TO THE REAL ONE, THE ONEE THREE DATES AT AT BOTTOM. GO TT THE BOTTOM, YOU'LL SEE THAT LITT THE BOTTOM AND SO INSTEAD OF ITC COMMUNITY PARK. AND THAT'S EXAT IT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER.S THE SAME SIZE. IT WAS PRIVATE,, PRIVATE AND PUBLIC AGAIN. WE'RE COMMITTING TO A PUBLIC PARK. THERE'S A PARAGRAPH AT THE BOTTN WHAT YOU STUDIED. IT'S AT THE E 15. RIGHT UNDER THAT TABLE ON Y TABLE THAT ONLY SAYS AUGUST 31 D IT SAYS THE PRIMARY PARK REQUIRT SHOULD BE MET BY THE CREATION O9 AIRKER PLAY VET PARK LOCATED EAS ACTUALLY WEST OF THE ELEMENTARYD THE PRIMARY PARK SHOULD BE OWNED
MAINTAINED BY AN HOA. >> WHAT DID I SAY? IT'S NOW PUBLIC PARK SO AT THE F THAT PAGE 8 IT NOW SAYS, YOU SEE STRIKE AND UNDERLINED. PRIMARYK REQUIRE MENT SHOULD BE MET BY AE PUBLIC COMMUNITY PARK. STILL S, SHOULD SAY WEST OF ELEMENTARY S THE COMMUNITY PARK SHOULD BE DOO CLAY COUNTY PURSUE ANT TO AN IME CREDIT AGREEMENTS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE'REP PIK PUBLIC PARK AND THE DETAILSG AND WHO DOES QUHA WILL BE IN THT
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AGREEMENT. SO WHAT YOU READ AND ALL WEEKEND HAS GONE FROM THIS .>> AND THAT, GO TO THE NEXT PAG, BECAUSE WE HAD, WE WERE GOING TE PAIRK BEFORE, IT SAID THE PARK E IMPROVED N- AND OPEN TO RESIDENE PUD PRIOR TO A NUMBER OF PERMIT, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE GOING TO GIVEE COUNTY AND GIVE IT TO THE COUNTR THEY WANT IT. IF THEY WANT IT R OR FIVE YEARS FROM YOU. THAT WN THE CREDIT AGREEMENT. THAT LANS STRICKENNED. THE DETAILS WILL A PUD. IT WILL BE IN A CONTRACT S HERE'S THE LAND, WE GIVE YOU A O YOU WANT IT NEXT WEEK?
>> ALL RIGHT. THOSE DETAILS JUE HERE.
>> AND THEN THE PUBLIC PARK DONS ALSO STRICKEN, BECAUSE AGAIN ITT THE FOOT NOTE, WE'RE DOING IT UN IMPACT FEE CRED ATE GREEMENT. Y APOLOGIES, THE CONFUSION IS THEE CHANGE, THE STAFF KNEW WHAT THEE DOING, JUST AN OLD AGREEMENT INN OLD WRITTEN STATEMENT AND THE PS BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH BUT WE'RG YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S REFEREE STAFF REPORT. PLEASE SEE THE WN STATEMENT AND MAKE YOURDY SITION THE STAFF REPORT THAT THIS IS TF REPORT YOU ARE GOING TO TALK AB.
>> SO ACREAGE AND PARKLAND. EVG ELSE IS THE SAME. SO REALLY THS PUD INCLUDES ALL THE LOT REQUIR ALL THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. E DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS YOU SEA NORMAL PUD. AND I'M HAPPY TO AY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DETAILS. WE INCORPORATED THE ARCHITECTURAL S THAT ARE IN LAKE ASBERRY. SO WF IT'S GOOD FOR THEM, IT'S GOOD FE PUT IN BLOCK LAKE LIMITATIONS WN LAKE AS BUR RIVMENT WALK A BILLU CAN'T HAVE BIG ROADS. CONNECTIO WE HAVE TO CONNECT TO ADJACENT D OUR PROPERTY. GARAGE STANDARDSR RESIDENTIAL DWELL GZ. I'M READE HEAD GZ IF YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUE YOU ON PAGE 6. THE PARKING STAE ROADWAY STANDARDS, THESE ARE ALE ASBURY. SO IN ESSENCE WE'RE BLT LINE AND MOVING IT OVER TO 315 M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YT
>> YES, MISS,. >> SO WE DO UNDERSTAND, CAN YOUA LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARK. THIS DIFFERENT STHAN WE UNDERSTOOD IU ARE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THATT AGREEMENT IS NOW GOING TO BE A E PARK THAT IS BUILT EAST OF THE Y SCHOOL.
IT IS GOING TO BE WEST. >> AND IT'S GOING TO BE CONSTRU?
>> NO, IT'S GOING TO BE DONATED. WE'RE GOING TO DONATE THE LAND.
>> SO IN THE DRI YOU WERE ORIGIG TO 3WEU8D THE PARK?
>> CORRECT. >> AND THIS IS THE SAME PARK THE
PUTTING UNDER A- THE AGREEMENT? >> YES, CORRECT. AND IT'S IN TE
LOCATION AS THE DRI. THE DRI H. >> SOMEONE MENTIONED THERE BEINK
THAT WAS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC P. >> AND A PRIVATE PARK.
>> AND BILD BUILT BEHIND THE ELY SCHOOL PARK.
>> NO, THAT WAS A MONTH AGO. YF A STEP BEHIND US. HONEST LIRKSE DRI AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVS PARTICULAR MAP. THERE'S A BLUED ELEMENTARY R. TO THE WEST OF EY R.
>> THAT IS NO LONGER HAPPEN SOM. >> NO, THAT'S THE PARK IN THE DT
WE'RE GIVING YOU TODAY. >> BEFORE THERE WAS GOING TO BE.
>> FOR A BLINK OF AN EYE THERE O PARKS.
>> YES, ARE YOU NOT MISTAKEN BUE BACK TO ONE PARK AND IT'S A PUB.
>> I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS CLEAR K YOU.
YES, THE PARK PEOPLE ARE ON BOAE IMPORTANT PARK PEOPLE ARE ON BO.
>> OKAY. LET ME ASK COURTNEY, DO WE NEEDY ANYTHING THR THEY ARE DONATING D FOR A PARK AS OPPOSED TO AN ACTK YOU KNOW WITH IMPROVEMENTS AND ? I THINK SUSAN WILL MAKE THAT CLI THINK WE JUST HAVE TO KNOW THATS SOMETHING THAT WAS DIFFERENT. D CONVERSATIONS WITH USE SO THAT'E CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD WITH R
STAFF. >> WHAT I HEARD, I'M JUST CONCE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU KNOWI LOOKED AT THIS.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO DOK AND IT SOUNDS LIKE NOW IT'S DONE
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ACREAGE BUT IT WILL BE UP TO THO DO THE PARK.>> AND SO AN OPEN, THE PUD SAYSG YOU A PARK. WE DO NOT HAVE A SD DONATION AGREEMENT AT THIS POINN THOSE DISCUSSIONS IF THE COUNTYS THEY WOULD LIKE THE DEVELOPER TD BALL FIELDS AND DO DADS AND WHAN THE PARK, IT'S ALSO THROUGH A CT AGREEMENT OF MEANING THERE'S A T COMES FOR THE COST OF ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK THE DETAE NEGOTIATED BY THE BOARD AND IF T THOSE A IMPROVEMENTS, THAT WOULE AGREEMENT. AND IF THEY FIND THD RATHER DESIGN AND NOT BUILD THEK AND NOT GIVE US CREDIT FOR BUILA PIECE OF THE PARK. WE'RE NOT NO THAT BUT WE'RE JUST SAYING THATS PART OF GETTING -- THAT'S WHY IZ THERE WILL BE AN AGREEMENT OF AE WORDS ARE BEING WRITTEN BUT NOT.
>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT ANY OTHER QUESTION? I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. I'M JG TO PUT IT IN THE RECORD. DOESNY DIFFERENCE BUT WE HAVE GOT TO GY FROM 40-FOOT LOTS AND 20-FOOT SN GARAGES. PLEASE MAKE SURE THATN THE RECORD. BECAUSE THESE DRIVE TOO SHORT AND THE LOTS ARE TOO I THINK.
>> WELL, THIS PARTICULAR PUD ALS 40-FOOT LOTS BUT ONLY WITH REAR.
THESE ARE ALLEY LOADED 40-FOOT O THAT MESSAGE IS CLEAR AT THE BOL
AS WELL. >> OKAY. AND THEN OF COURSE THT SET BACKS ON THE GARAGES, IS ANO OWNS A PICKUP TRUCK KNOWS, THERT ENOUGH ROOM TO PARK A TRUCK IN F THE YOUR GA A. THEY NEED TO BE .
SO JUST I'M GOING TO BRING THATY TIME I GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO. K IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE LOOT COUNTY WIDE TO CHANGE AT SOME P BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T BUYING SM EVEN IF GAS GOWPS, FORD HAS ALRY STOPPED TAKING ORDERS ON THEIR W ELECTRIC PICK UP. THERE WILL SA TON OF THEM OUT THERE. ALL RIGHT. I NEED TO OPEN THE C HEARING ON THIS ONE. I DON'T TI THINK SIR, YOU WANTED THE PIECES MORE TO THE NORTH WHICH IS MARKE MU ON THAT MATT MAP.
>> (IN AUDIBLE). >> I CAN PROBABLY THOA SHOW THI.
SUSAN, JUST SHOW IT TO HER AND K YOUR PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO TH THAT'S NOT THIS ONE, IT'S THE N. GOT IT.
OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THEC HEARING ON THIS ONE. I HAVE NOR ANYONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY WAN. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING O
AND BRING IT BACK FOR ACTION. >> AS LONG AS THE COUNTY ATTORNS COMFORTABLE WITH THE LANGUAGE, L MOVE WITH APPROVAL.
SECOND. >> OKAY SO MR. BOURRE AND MISS ,
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> CAN I MAITION ONE COMMENT?
>> YES PLEASE. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT ELER HAS BEEN NAMED SPRING PARK ELEMT SO LET YOU O A ALL KNOW THAT.
SPRING PARK. NOT SARATOGA? >> NOT SARATOGA.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? I'LL CALL IN QUESTION. ALL IN Y I.
[10. Public Hearing to consider PUD-2021-09. (District 5, Comm Burke) (M. Brown)]
>> ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE ONLY HAVE ONE MORE RN THIS GROUPING. NO., GOT IT HERE SOMEWHERE, NO.I THINK. NO. 10. I LOST MY NOTES. I'M .
>> HERE IT IS. SORRY. THIS IS FOR PUD-2021-09. I WOUT OUT THAT UNLESS THIS GOT CORRECE NEW AGENDA, THE OLD A AGAIN TA E WRONG ACREAGE IN IT. THIS IS 9S THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
>> IT SAYS 94.68 ACRES. >> ALL RIGHT. IT WAS WRONG ON A BUT I THINK IT'S CORRECT IN THE LET'S DOUBLE CHECK THAT. WE GO.
THAT THAT WAS STAFF'S MISTAKE OE AGENDA A BOWL GUYS FOR FOR APOLR
THAT. >> AND THE FRONT COVER LETTER, S
THE WRONG ACREAGE AS WELL. >> THAT WILL ALL BE CORRECTED FE BOARD. I APOLOGIZE FOR. THAT.
>> VERY GOOD. THIS IS THE MIXED COMMERCIAL PARCELLS. BOTH OF T.
>> JUST MIXED USE. JUST MIXED USE.
COMMERCIAL WILL BE SEPARATE. >> ALL RIGHT. GO HEAD.
>> OKAY. REAL QUICKLY, AGAIN, L LA CAN, PETERS CREEK INVESTMENTN
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GO TO THE BOARD ON FEBRUARY 22 L THE REST OF THEM, ZONE 94.68 ACM PUD UNDER THE DRI TO PUD. IT WT ASIDE WHAT THIS PUD WILL DO. 7S WILL BE MIXED USE, A LITTLE OVES WILL BE CONSERVATION. HERE'S AP SHOWING AND IT'S OUTLINED IN THK SEMI TRIANGLE UP IN THE CORNER S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THIS SID HERE'S THE YAIRL THAT'S OUTLINEN YELLOW. THAT 75 ACRES THAT WILE UNDER THE MIXED USE WILL BE DEVD CONSISTENT WITH THE STANDARDS FE MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY. RH MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDL DEVELOPMENT. MAXIMUM DENSITY I6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, MAY GO0 UNITS WITH HOUSING, AFFORDABLE R LOW, VERY LOW, MODERATE INCOME Y AND HANDICAP. NONRESIDENTIAL DT IS MAXED AT A FLOOR AREA RATIO. THE 19 ACRES EAR MARKED FOR CONN WILL BE DEVELOPED WITH THE STAND NTD CONVERSATION LAND USE. STAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DED THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT E SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS USE PAT ABLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AD STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PU9 AND ALL THESE CON CONTINUE GANTN ADOPTION OF BY THE BOARD. SO SF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REZ.ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> ANY QUESTIONS?
>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW, THESE TS THAT ARE SHOWN AS COMMERCIAL, TA SHOWN AS COMMERCIAL, IS THAT NOD IN ANYWHERE?
THEY ARE COMING IN IN A SEPARAT. >> YOU'LL HEAR THOSE NEXT MONTH.
>> OKAY. >> THEY SUBMITTED A REZONING FO
YOU'LL HEAR THOSE SEPARATELY. >> AND THE APPLICANT?
>> MIKE I HAVE THE POWER POINT. >> WE GOT THIS ONE.
>> WE'LL GET THAT UP BECAUSE SOS IS THE ORIENTATION. SO AGAIN, E TALKING ABOUT THE MIXED USE CORS PROPERTY CURRENTLY DOES NOT HAVO 315. IT WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS TT CONNECTOR IS OPEN IN 2024. SO E
PLANNING FOR THE FIEWR. >> FUTURE. SO AGAIN, THE PARCEL IS 94.68 ACRES. THEE CATEGORY IS LIMITED 75 ACRES BYE POLICY BY FUTURE LAND USE DEVELT POLICY SO THIS SI LITTLE LARGERT IN THE CURRENT STATE. WHEN THEY COMPLETES IT'S ACQUISITION OF TT COAST CONNECTOR RIGHT AWAY IT WE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE CA.
AND SO THE CURRENT ZONING IN THA SPRINGS PUD PERMITS ON THIS PARE FAMILY, MULTI FAMILY, COMMERCIAD OFFICE.
>> UNDER THE CURRENT SARATOGA PE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR IN THE DRD THE 218 EXTENSION BY THIS MIXEDD USE AREA.
SO THIS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY APO FOR THIS PARCEL. NOW, THE FIRST CONNECTOR NO LONGER, I'M LOOKINE BACKWARDS I GUESS DIPS TO THE ST ACTUALLY CROSSES AND DIPS TO TH. THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE DRI. THE THE COUNTY 218 EXTENSION WAS GOE AND IT IS NO LONGER IN THAT LOCF YOU LOOK, THESE PAPER MAPS ARE U CAN LOOK AND SQUINT YOUR EYES. S 315 AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTS ON THE SCREEN, IT'S THAT PIECE I THAT FRONTS ON 315 AND SEE THATE THAT DIPS TO THE SOUTH AND IT CS PETERS CREEK OVER HERE, BUT ON , THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR IS DRE REAL FIRST COAST DIRECTOR IS GOT BUILT AND IT'S THAT BLACK LINE N SEE HOW IT DE VERNLINGS, YOU'LLE SLIGHT SLIDE AND BE ABLE TO PUTT TOGETHER. BUT THE NEXT SLIDE PE PROPOSED, -- GO BACK ONE.
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MISS GRIMM, THAT BLUE RED BOX, S THE DRI PARK AND IT'S THE PARK G TO GIVE YOU TODAY. IT'S IN THEE PLACE. IT WASN'T FOR A MOMENT S TODAY. AND SO THE PROPOSED MIXD WILL PERMIT SINGLE AND FAMILY, D MULTI FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND COL AND OFFICE USES, SOUNDS LIKE WHS THERE BEFORE AND THE FIRST COASR STILL BY SECONDS THIS PUD LOCAT.AGAIN, WE TOOK THE LAKE ASBURY S AND HAULED THEM ACROSS THE CREED APPLIED THEM HERE. AND SO ON TO THIS PROPERTY IS SUBJECT TO A ME LAND USE CATEGORY AND THE LAND E CATEGORY HAS A LONG LIST OF REQS THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE NO MATTER R PUD SAYS, THIS IS THE LAND USE.N YOU GO TO THE WRITTEN STATEMENTU GO TO THE TOP OF I GUESS THE SEE OF THE WRITTEN STATEMENT. IT SD USE. THAT'S THE VER VER BAY TIE LAND USE IS. I CAN DO EXTRA BUT CHANGE THIS.
>> THE COUNTY ALREADY DECIDED IE MIXED USE AND THERE IS AN AMENDS LOCATION IS APPROVED FOR MIXED U SAID IT AND THE COUNTY SAID IS T TRANSMITTED IT. BUT THERE ARE STAB DARDZ STANDAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAND USE. WE AD TO PRO VIET VIED, THERE MUST BE RESIDENTIAL AND NONRESIDENTIAL MIXED USES. NONRESIDENTIAL USEA MINIMUM OF 100 SQUARE FEET PEREL UNIT. A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL CORRESPONDINGLY, A LOT OF COMMET SO MUCH RESIDENTIAL. NOT SO MUH COMMERCIAL REQUIRED. MINIMUM M0 SQUARE FEAST RESIDENTIAL. MAXI0
SCWIER SQUARE FEET PER UNIT. >> AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. TN THE SAME CATEGORY. SO WHEN THE BLACK CREEK BEAUTY T WAS GOING TO BE APARTMENTS AND WHEN YOU DRIVE BY TODAY IT'S SIY RESIDENTIAL. WHY DIDN'T WE TALT MONTH ABOUT THE RESTAURANT AND S GOING ON OUT FRONT. SO THIS PUE PROPOSING TODAY IS LIKE THAT ONE ALLOWED TO HAVE MULTI FAMILY. 16 UNITS PER ACRE AND IF WE DO E MEET STANDARDS, WE CAN GET TO 2E CAN DO SINGLE FAMILY HERE. THIS THE FULL RANGE OF SINGLE FAMILY6 WITH SOME AFFORDABLE STAN DANDZ.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THIS G WILL BE APARTMENTS, NOR DO I WAO THINK IT WILL ALL BE SINGLE FAM. SO THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR WHG BUILD WILL BE A TWO LANE ROAD WA MEDIAN, LOTS OF TREES BUT ULTIMT IN THE TOO DISTANT FUTURE, IT WA FOUR LANE ROAD AND THIS IS AN AL ROAD CONNECT THE FEDERAL HIGHWA7 AND THE INTERSTATE. SO THE CHAN WE SEE TODAY WHEN WE WALK OUT AE GRAIN SIGH LOWS AND COWS HANGIN.
THIS IS NOT WHERE IT WILL BE BU NO DEVELOPMENT ON THIS PARCEL BU CAN'T GET TO IT. I WOULD BET TE WON'T BE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENS PARCEL FOR TEN YEARS AND A SAY T BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY PLACE YOUE THIS MULTI FAMILY AND SO THAT UG TO BE WHERE IT IS DESIRE ABLE OR YAL ROADWAY CLOSE TO AN ACTIVITO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP WHICHE MAP, WE GOT 500 SOME ODD ACRES T INTERCHANGE WHICH IS THERE. THR SOUTH POINTER. THAT'S OUR ACE E FOR SOUTH POINT IN CLAY COUNTY.S PARCEL OVER HERE IS GOING TO ZIE ROAD AND BE AT WORK IN 3 MILES Y ARE GOOD THEL WILL BE ON THEIR E THERE IN 3 MILES SO.
THIS PROPERTY IS SET UP FOR. THAT IT'S SET UP FOR FUTURE DEV THE DEMAND IS NOT THERE TODAY. S GOING TO BE THERE AND IT'S THE E USE. IT'S THE USE THAT'S ON THD TODAY. IF YOU GO TO THE DRI, I6 UNITS PER ACRE AND IT'S HIGHER I FOR THIS PROPERTY. SO WE'RE ASU LOOK BEYOND THE GRAIN SIGH LOWSD COWS AND.
>> LOOK AT THE THREE ROADS. KI. NOT THERE.
SEVENTEENTH AND LANDING. THIS IS ANOTHER AR TER YAL. ITE BIG WHEN IT GETS BUILT AND WELL. MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS FIVE LEVELS O.
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ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS REQUIREMED REQUIRE MENT FOREFRONT ENTRY AND PARKING GARAGE DESIGNS, THESE AE LAND USE CATEGORY. SO WHOEVER P AND DOES THIS HAS TO MEET ALL TE STANDARDS. THE PUD DOES LAYOUT RESIDENTIAL USES. CON DISCUSSIS AND NONRESIDENTIAL USES. THIS A CATEGORY. SO UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE THE RESIL WILL BE LOCATED, UNTIL WE KNOW D OF COMMERCIAL WILL COME UP, WE D WITH THE STAFF LEVEL. STAFF ANA DISCUSSION HOW DO YOU MAKE SUREF THIS TURNS OUT TO BE A PLACE WHO WANTS TO BE OR WALMART WANTS TOT ISN'T JAM UP AGAINST A SINGLE FY HOUSE?>> WE DON'T NEXT WE DON'T KNOW.Y NEVER BE A BIG BOX THERE BUT THD BE BECAUSE THIS WILL BE A FOUR E ARTERIAL AND SO THAT'S THE FUTUS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO I. SO THIS PUD SETS UP A HIRE HIERF USES. IT PROTECTS WHAT'S COMINN THOUGH WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMD SO THERE ARE BUFFER STANDARDS. D THEM.
>>> OH KNOW. >> WHERE DID THEY GO?
>> SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE PUD ONE WRITTEN STATEMENT. I HAVE A NOE BOTTOM AND I PRINTED THIS OFF TT SOW PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME. SOS PERMITTED RESIDENTIAL USES SO TA LIST OF USES. THE LIST YOU CANY MONTH NOW FOR WHAT WOULD NORMALL STORES AND SO WHAT IT SAYS IS TE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USES ARD A VASE ANT TO RESIDENTIAL, A VAO RESIDENTIAL IF THE BUILDING DOED 25,000 SQUARE FEET AND NO INDIVL TENANT EXCEEDS 5000 SQUARE FEETE MODEL THIS IS AFTER IF YOU'RE UE ROADS WHERE I LIVE UP ON SAN JUE ROADS AT THE SHOPPING CENTER THG UNDER REDEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW. THERE'S A PUBLIX IN THE BACK. S STEIN MART AND IT'S BEEN BOUGHTG REDEVELOPED AND IT'S THE 25,000N OLD BUILDING BUT BEING RECONFIGY ARE PUTTING BRICK PAVERS AND A AN APARTMENT BUILDING GHOG UP I. SO THIS SAYS IF YOU'RE GOING TOL SHOPS AND SMALL RESTAURANTS, THE RIGHT NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL. N WALK OUT OF YOUR HOUSE OR APARTD WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND HAVEP OF COFFEE. BUT THEN THE NEXT PS YOU CAN HAVE THOSE USES BUT THEE BIG. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE LIMN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING E FOOTAGE OF THE USE. BUT NOW IFE NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE HAS A BUFFER. JUST LIKE IF YOU WERE D YOU WERE GOING TO FIND A STARBUO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. WHAND Y ARE THE BUFFERS THAT ARE IN THE, THE COUNTY'S CODE. 10 FEET, 20, TREES, SO IF YOU'RE SMALL, WE WO BE AWK WALK AIBLE AND LOOK A OUE WINDOW AND SEE THE COFFEE SHOP.E IT GETS BILL BIG, WE WANT THE BR BUFFERS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USED THERE COULD BE A WALMART. WE'RE SAYING THOSE ARE COMMUNITD THERE'S A DEFINITION OF WHAT THT THEY ARE PERMITTED BUT ONLY IF O COMMON BOUND U- BOUNDRY WITH A L USE. SO IF YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAU HAVE SOME OF THE SMALLER RESIDED WALMART WANTS TO BE OUT IN FRONS OKAY BUT WALMART CAN'T BE YOU CP AGAINST THE SUB DIVISION OR TUCP AGAINST THE PARK COMPLEX BECAUSS INCOME PAT ABLE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WILL GO WILL SHOW UP OR WHAT THEY WANT T WE SAID WHEN THEY SHOW UP WE'REO PROTECT THE RESIDENTIAL AND EVEL KNOW WHERE BUFFERS ARE REQUIRED. THERE'S A LOT OF USES BUT THERES THEY FIT IN BASED ON HOW INTENSE AND WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE NEXTO RESIDENTIAL OR NOT. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY AS AND CIVIC LANDS SO THE LAKE PLAS PARKLAND TO BE PROVIDED SO MUCHE
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FEET OF RESIDENTIAL UNIT. SO FY HOUSE HAVE YOU TO HAVE SO MANY T AND FOR NONDRENS SHALL, HAVE YOE PLAZ PLAZS AND CIVIC SPACES ANDS OR AREAS WITH TREES WHERE PEOPL. THOSE AREAS ARE IN THIS PUD FORS BUR RIVMENT WE WILL HAVE TO HAVD OPEN SPACE FOREST DEN SHALL ANDR NONRESIDENTIAL. AND SO THAT'S F THAT PUZZLE THAT'S BEEN CARRIED THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING STANDARDSN STANDARDS FOR LAKE ASBURY HAVE N INCORPORATED. NOTE A BLI. YOUE PLARK SIGNS OR POLL SIGNS. THEL MONUMENT SIGNS BACK LIT OR GROUT SIGNS AND SO WE LOOKED AT THE CR LONG TERM AS WELL AS JUST THE SE LOTS.MIKE, I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE. >> THIS IS THE MIXED USE YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS EEFNLGT THE CON IS PETERS CREEK.
THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR IS THL ALIGNMENT WHERE IT WILL BE BUILS ABOUT 75 ACRES OF MIXED USE ANDS CONSERVATION. THE FCC RUNS THRE MIDDLE OF IT. AND THE COMMERCIAL IS A STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL CATEGORY. YOU'LL HEAR THAT NEXT MONTH BETS PROPERTY AND 315. AND NEXT ONEE HAVE THE STANDARDS I JUST WENT H THOSE. I WON'T GO BACK THROUGH IT'S IN THE PUD ITSELF.
NEXT ONE FLEES. ALL THE STAFF. ALREADY GOTTEN .
GOUGH BUF FERS. SO THIS IS THES WHERE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELSF DENSITY. ONE MORE I THINK. SOO HAVE 10% OPEN SPACE AND 9% OF OE AND 7.5 OF DEVELOPMENT MENTAL AS AND THEN RECREATION PROVIDED INS DISTRICT. THIS IS THE PLAZA IDT ONLY DOES THE RESIDENTIAL HAVE D OPEN SPACES FOR PEOPLE TO WALK E TO BUT THE COMMERCIAL AREAS DO AND THAT IS THE RESIDENTIAL PARE YOU IN THIS MIXED USE DISTRICT O PROVIDE 500 FEET FOR SINGLE FAMD THAT'S ALSO IN THE RURAL SPRINGT WE JUST HEARD. WE CARRIED THATM LAKE ASBURY AND IT'S IN THIS MIE DISTRICT AS WELL. SORRY.
>> SO THAT'S NOT REQUIRED AND RI TALK FASTER THAN I CAN READ.
ONE MORE THERE IS CONNECTIVITY.U LOOK.
THAT THERE WILL BE AT LEAST ONEC STREET THAT TAKES FROM YOU THE T CONNECTOR THROUGH THE MIXED USEE RURAL FRINGE. THERE MAYBE MOREE HAS TO BE AT LEAST ONE. SO YOUD UP WITH COMMERCIAL ALL LINING TD USE AND THE PEOPLE IN THE RURALE THAT YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT TRYINP THERE. HAVE YOU TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE P SIDEWALK STREET, TREES, PARKING LANDSCAPING AND BICYCLE RACKS A ALL THIS IS CARRIED OVER FROM L THESE STANDARDS WILL APPLY. THR THING WE HEARD FROM THE COUNTY Y WERE PLANNING THE FIRST COAST CK TORE IS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THY ROAD T. WILL BE A LOVELY ROAD AN HERE AND PETERS CREEK T WILL BEL COMMERCIAL. ALL COMMERCIAL. AD SURE HATE TO MAKE THAT INVESTMES ROAD AND HAVE IT TURN INTO BLANG
BOULEVARD. >> SO THERE'S ACCESS MANAGEMENTE USE APPLIED TO THE COMMERCIAL. Y HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE N OPENINGS ESTABLISHED FOR THE FIT CONNECTOR UNLESS MODIFIED PURSUA DISTRICT PLAN AND ACCESS MANAGEN SO WHAT WE ARE REQUIRING IS BEFU TAKE THE PIECE OF PAPER YOU MIGE THIS MONTH AND SOMEBODY BUILDS , THEY HAVE TO DO A PLAN NEXT ONE. NORMALLY A PUD DOES NO. 2 AND N A PUD DOES BOTH A NO. WITH YOU T TO BUILD A MCDONALD'S. AND THEN IN CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THEREE REVIEW BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD ANY THIS PUD SAYS YOU GOT DO THIS FD BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD ANYTHING, E FOOT, HAVE YOU TO DO A DISTRICTR PLAN AND ACCESS MANAGEMENT PLANT THAT SAYS IS WE DON'T KNOW TODAE PEOPLE WHO OWN IT TODAY WON'T BE
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DEVELOPING IT TOMORROW. STHE HE POINTS OF ACCESS. VI TWO RIGHTN LANES. I HAVE A MAIN ROAD RIDI. IT WILL BE THAT BUBBLE PLAN THAN RESPECTS WHAT THE FIRST COAST CR WILL BE AS AN ARTERIAL, PROVIDEE ACCESS AND THEN THAT'S A TEM PLH OF THE PUZZLE PEESSMENTS WHERE'E MCDONALD'S? WHERE'S THE PRARMTS? WHERE'S THE RESIDENTIAL APPROVE SO WE'LL HAVE A BIG PLAN AND FIE NOOZ THE SMALL PLAN. SO THIS LS FORWARD TO THERE BEING MULTIPLEE DEVELOPING ON THIS PROPERTY. WT WANT PEOPLE NOT TO KNOW WHAT TH WE WANT THE COUNTY TO HAVE A PLT THEY CAN SHOW TO PEOPLE AND SAYE CONSISTENT, YOU'RE GOOD TO GO SA ROAD MAP. AND SO THAT NO. 1 ISP THAT'S IN THIS PUD THAT'S NOT RF OTHER PUD'S AND IT'S A STEP BEFU START DOWN THE ROAD OF YOU KNOWG YOUR SITES. THE OTHER THING WEG FOR IN THIS PUD IS THERE IS A TR DEVELOPMENT IN ARTICLE 3 FOR PUT SAYS SUBSTANTIAL CONSTRUCTION HT BEGUN IN FOUR YEARS, THE APPROVE PUD WILL LAPSE. THAT'S NORMALLF YOU WANT A PUD AND KNOW WHERE YG AND DON'T GET IT DONE IN FOUR YT SHOULD GO WAY.>> INSTEAD THIS PUD SAYS THE TEE NEXT SLIDE AND IT SAYS, MIKE, O, THERE YOU GO. SO THE FINAL DEVT PLAN, RIGHT, THE PUD ORDINANCE N 30 MONTHS OF TONIGHT, THE BOARDD AT THE END OF THE MOVEMENT 30 MF THAT PROVE VAL, VI TO HAVE A FIL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND WHAT WE'G IS THE SUBMIT TAFL THE DISTRICTR PLAN WITH THAT ACCESS MANAGEMENE COMMERCIAL AND WHERE'S THE RESI THAT'S 30 MONTHS BUT IT DOESN'TT UNTIL THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR THERE WON'T BE ANYONE KNOCKING R TO BUY THIS AND DEVELOPMENT UNTD IS DONE. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE N THE TIRES BUT WON'T GET SERIOUSE ROAD IS HERE. WE'RE SAYING BECT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS AND IT'S FUE KNOW WHEN IT WILL OPEN, WE'RE KE THE THAT CAN TO THE POINT WHEN D OPENS AND THEN THE PUD ORDINANCI HAVE STO START SUBSTANTIAL CONSN WITHIN FOUR YEARS SO WHAT THIS S THAT FOUR YEARS STARTS AGAIN WHC STARTS. SO WE'RE IN ESSENCE LAE GROUND WORK TODAY, PUTTING THE N PLACE AND THEN WORKING ON IT BEW AND WHEN THE EXPRESSWAY, WHEN TD OPENS. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER Y QUESTIONS. THIS IS THE MEAT OF ONE THAT'S E
BIT UNIQUE AND PRETTY INTERESTI. >> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?
>> YES, MR. BOURRE. >> IF I MAY, I APPRECIATE T.
>> MR. BROWN IF YOU WOULD ENDULD GO BACK TO THE PARK SLIDE FOR AE
>> YOU WANT THE PICTURE? >> NO, I WANT THE LANGUAGE. I U
WENT PASSED IT MIKE. >> GO FORWARD MIKE. MORE, TWO ,
2, IT SAYS PARK STANDARDS ON IT. >> RESIDENTIAL? THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. AND MY QUESTION IS THIS.
THIS IS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.E THE 19-ACRE PARCEL THAT WE DISCN AND MOVED PASSED. IS THIS IN AO THE 500 SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND T SQUARE HOME. IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE 19 AT
ASIDE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE PUD? >> SO THERE'S -- WE'RE NOT TALKT THE PARCEL WITH THE PARK IN IT S WE'RE HARING. THAT WAS THE LAS.
>> AND THE PARK THAT WE WILL DEO THE COUNTY, THE 19-ACRE PARK ISE
>> SO THE 500 SQUARE FEET, HOW Y DWELLING UNITS, WE'LL DO THAT MF THE 19-ACRE PARK IS BIG ENOUGH T AND IT WILL BE, THEN THAT STANDT WITH THAT PARK. BUT THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK STANDARDS OF 0 QUAIR FEET PER UNIT THAT IS INDF THE 19 ACRES SO, MR. A GRES SI D MR. EAGAN WILL TELL YOU THAT THR THEY ARE TALKING TO WILL FAR EXE STANDARDS BUT HAVE YOU TO ASSUMS IS A MINIMUM, RIGHT. AND SO YEE PROPOSAL IS THE 19-ACRE PARK ISE PRIMARY PARK AND THEN THE 100 S SO FOR THE LAST HEARING, IT'S 1R FEET THIS.
ONE IS FOR THE ONE WE'RE TALK A SO THE 19-ACRE DOESN'T COUNT FOD
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AT ALL. THE 19 ABLINGERS ONLY R THAT RURAL FRINGE PUD.EVERYTHING ELSE HAS TO MEET THA. IN ADDITION TO?
>> YES. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
>> OKAY. SORRY. AND EVERYTHING WEST OF THE CREET
STANDARD IN ADDITION TO. 19. >> OKAY.
>> I HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION MIKU GO BACKWARDS A COUPLE OF SLIDESE MAP. RIGHT THERE. WHAT IS THAS ALONG THE SOUTH WEST BOARDER. A
POWER RIGHT OF WAY? >> THAT'S THE FPL LINE.
>> THAT IS THERE TODAY, THOSE P? >> UH-HUH.
>> OKAY. THAT'S ALL. ALL RIGHS ONE I KNOW RI HAVE SOMEBODY SO G TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND K IT'S MR. ROSH THOMPSON.
>> IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND. MY NAME IS ROB THOMPSON I LIVE 1 FUZZY LANE. RIGHT AT THE 90 DEN OF 315. MY NEIGHBORS HAVE LIVEL THEIR LIFE. FORTUNATELY THEY SY PROPERTY. AND IT THE MOST BEAUL PROPERTY I CAN BEGIN TO EXPAND.O BE UP HERE TODAY. I UNDERSTANDT GROWTH AND DEPARTMENT HAS GOT TN THIS IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR BAD NEIR STORY. I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR. E THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOM SARATOGA SPRINGS, ONE, I DON'T W MUCH THEY WILL KNOW ABOUT THAT F THAT TRAFFIC IS ABLE TO TAKE TH0 DEGREE TURN THERE, THAT'S GOINGA DISASTER. WE ALREADY FILED A TH THE ROAD DEPARTMENT ON IF THERES ANYTHING THEY CAN DO TO CLEAR T IT'S DANGEROUS AS ALL GET UP, T0 DEGREE TURN DOWN THERE. BUT NOE ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALLOWT ON THAT ROAD, IT WILL GET A LOT JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WIN ON THAT ROAD FOR ONE. SECONDLYA BEAUTIFUL CREEK WITH BRIDGE OVET CREEK THAT WE BUILT. MY WIFE SE LUNS TRANSPLANT. WITH IT HAS FS ALIGNED UP ALL UP AND DOWN AND R COMING FROM THAT PROPERTY THAT E IS FROM A POND. I DON'T WANT TR CUT OFF. I DON'T KNOW WHO NEEDK INTO WHERE IT'S COMING FROM OR IF THEY CUT THAT WATER OFF, THAK DIES AND I DON'T WANT THAT CREEE AND THEN THIRDLY, I DON'T KNOW R IT'S GOING TO BE HOUSING OR OTHS BUT SHE SPOKE INTENTLY ON BUFFEI WANT A BUFFER ZONES, VI TREES TE OUT A LOT. BUT IF THEY ARE PUTG HOUSING THERE.
I SURE WOULD LIKE THEM TO PUT FS LONG THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSES BI HAVE BEAUTIFUL SUNSETS THERE ANI SAID, I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHI UNDERSTAND THAT GROWTH COMES BUE TAUGHT SCHOOL AND COUCHED HERE E COUNTY FOR 35 YEARS AND I THINKA REPUTATION AS A MAN OF MY WORD S WHAT I'LL TELL YOU. IF THEY ARD NEIGHBOR, I'M GOING TO BE A GOOR BUT IF THEY DON'T HELP ME OUT, E GUY THAT WALKS ON TOP OF MY HILY SPEEDO EVERY DAY FOR WHOEVER LI. I MAY POST SIGNS ON MY TREES THT VERY A TRACK FIX THE I NEED A GD NEIGHBOR BECAUSE MY PROPERTY IS AND IT MEANS A LOT TO EVERYBODYS OUT THERE ON THAT 20 ACRES RIGH SO I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH ME BUTE EITHER ONE. A GOOD NEIGHBOR ORD NEIGHBOR.
OKAY. THANK YOU. >> MISS FRASER. I THINK HE WILS
TRAFFIC ON THAT CURVE RIGHT? >> I THINK YOU WILL SEE LESS TR.
MR. THOMPSON WE'LL BE HAPPY TO H YOU AND SHARE MORE SPECIFIC DETN WE WOULD PERHAPS GET INTO THIS T YES, AS THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW TT COAST CONNECTOR, IT WILL DIVERTE TRAFFIC FROM THE 90 DEGREES FARE EAST OF THE 90 DEGREE TURN AND MR. THOMPSON I'LL SHOW YOU ON TD BRING IT SOUTH AWAY FROM THE 90E TURN. THAT'S THE MAP, THE BIG U START AT 17 AND THIS GENTLEMAN T THE 90 DEGREE TURN. TT ROAD WIH ACROSS 315 TO A FOUR WAY INTERSD CONTINUE OVER THE EXPRESSWAY. K ACTUALLY YOUR PART OF 315 WILL A CUL-DE-SAC.
TALK INTO THE MIC. IT WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCN
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TRAFFIC. >> AND I LOVE TO HEAR SOMEBODY E DON'T CUT OFF THE WATER BECAUSEE HEAR AT EVERY HEARING IS DON'T Y
WATER, RIGHT. >> I JUST HAVE TO LAUGH AT THATT WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU MR. F WHAT THE SOURCE OF THE WATER IST THE PLANS ARE AND MAKE SURE THAR WATER THAW WANT CAN BE RETAINEDE BUFFERS WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE TR FENCING IS ALWAYS REQUIRED. WHK AT THE MAP, SEE WHERE IT SAYS TD CONSERVATION AND YOU SEE A BUNC- DORKTS THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CONVN LAND USE AND WE CAN'T CLEAR ANY.
THAT THAT'S A LAND USE CATEGORYT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DISTURB IT.R THAT WHOLE SOUTHBOUND DRI WE CAO WITHIN 700 FEET OF THE BOUND DRE OF THE CONVERSATION AND WHERE TK IS.
WE'LL MAKE SURE HE DOESN'T HAVEY LINE AND BUFFERS THAT ARE APPRO.
OKAY. THANK YOU. >> AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS C
HEARING, BRING IT BACK FOR ACTI? >>
>>> ALL RIGHT SO MR. NORTON MOCE STAFF REPORT AND MR. DAVIS IS T ANY DISCUSSION? NONE.
>> THE ONLY COMMENT IF I COULD . I JUST WANT SO ADD I APPRECIATEO DEVELOPERS COMING IN AND DOING A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING WHAT THS LIKE. I KNOW YOU AND I HAVE BES COMMISSION FOR A LONG TIME BUT S ON THE COMMISSION SO IT'S GREATF HEAR THE VISION AND KIND OF HOWT HERE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING SO FI JUST WANT TO THANK THE GROUP FON
TONIGHT. >> YOU KNOW WHAT WILL MAKE YOU ?
>> WHAT'S THAT? >> I WAS ON HERE WHEN WE APPROVA
SPRINGS. >> YOU WERE BEFORE ME.
>> SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THIS MN ONCE. WITH THAT ALL THOSE IN FE
>> OPPOSED? >> OKAY. THERE'S NONE THERE. K THAT WRAPS UP OUR SARATOGA SPRIS MARATHON.
[11. Public Hearing to consider LDC-2021-14. (M. Brown)]
>> YEP. >> AND LEAVES US NO. 11, WHICH C HEARING TO CONSIDER LAND DEVELOE CHANGE 2021-14. THIS WOULD BE T AMENDMENT ABOUT MANY WAREHOUSESD MR. BROWN.
>> CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSION, LAND DEVELOPMENT COACHING 21-14, A LD DEVELOPMENT OF PUBLIC STORAGE AE REQUEST IS TO AMEND SECTION THRF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE PERTAININGD USE CRITERIA AND A APOLOGIZE FOE SPELLING MISTAKE IN THE PROPOSE IMPACT BOTH THE SINGLE FAMILY A, SINGLE STORY AND MULTI STORY MII WAREHOUSE CRITERIA A. THIS WILE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FE FIRST READING NEXT TUS TUESDAY,8 AND THE FINAL READING FEBRUARY E MINI WAREHOUSE AS A CONDITIONALA LOWTD PRESENTLY AS IT EXISTS TOE BB, BB1, BB 2, BRANDON FIELD ACY CENTER AND PID ZONING DISTRICT. THE ONLY DISTRICTS WHERE YOU CAA CONDITIONAL USE OF WAREHOUSE. AND THE NUMBER OF CLARIFICATIONE CLEARLY STATE THE REQUIRED CONDD BUT THERE ARE ALSO SOMEWHAT STAS SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE REQUD CONDITIONAL USE CHANGES CRITERIE STUB STAN TIFF CHANGES INCLUDE G THE MAXIMUM ACREAGE SIZE, CHANGO MAXIMUM INTENSITY OF THE USES, N ACCESS, CHANGES IN THE BUFFERIND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND OPEN SE REQUIREMENTS, I JUST WOULD LIKET OUT, ADD THAT I REALIZED YESTERT THERE WERE, THAT THE COLORING OT CHANGES AND CROSS THROUGH AND UE DIDN'T CARRY FORWARD IN WHAT WAT TO YOU SO WE PROVIDE, THE STAFFD YOU WITH A MARK UP COPY YESTERDY E-MAIL, THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDE TT YOUR SAME EXACT DOCUMENT WHICH E
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TOWED TODAY AT YOUR SEAT AND WIO GO THROUGH EACH OF THOSE OAR ALE APPLICANT TO PLAIK THEIR PRESEND THEN -->> I THINK WE'LL LET THE APPLICE THEIR PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'E BACK IF WE HAVE SOME, WE MAY HAE QUESTIONS OF WHY YOU THOUGHT THA
GOOD IDEA, THAT KIND OF THING. . >> SO WITH THAT, MR. SCRUBY. AU
GOING TO DO THE APPLICATION? >> I AM.
>> OKAY. WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. >> WE JUST LEAN LIKE THIS AND LT IS HELPFUL. JUST TO EM EMPHASIS OLD. I WAS ALSO HERE RALPH WHEO SARATOGA SPRINGS WAS DONE AND HN THE '87 DEVELOPMENT ORDER. AGAK SCRUBY. AND I REPRESENT ATLANTIC SELF SN THIS MATTER AND I'M JOINED HOCKM JOINED BY RANDALL WHITFIELD WHOO AND BO DEN WHO SAY DESIGN AND DT OFFICER. HE IS BACK BY THE SIGE BLUE SHIRT. CARTER THOMPSON WHE PRINCIPAL PLANNER. IF YOU MOVEO
IT'S NOT BLOCKING THIS WAY. >> AND MR. WHITFIELD, MR. BOWMA, MRS. THOMPSON IS THE CHIEF PLANN PERRY WHO IS THE TECHNICAL ASSID MANAGER. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. MID YOU CUE UP OUR, IT'S NOT VERY BS
IS. >> ATLANTIC HAS BEEN AN IN NO HE IN THE REALLY FIRST COAST AREA., ST. JOHNS, NASSAU, AND CLAY COUD WE HAVE TWO FACILITIES IN CLAY E WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE OUR FOOT BUT WE HAVE OVER 50 FACILITIES E FIRST COAST FOR SELF STORAGE. F THESE ARE CLIMATE CONTROLLED INR ACCESS FACILITIES LIKE YOU SEE WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING IN THE PAL YEARS A NEW STYLE IF YOU WILL OR AJ LIKE AS I SAID, CLIMATE CONT, ARCHITECTURALLY APPEALING. MULY BUILDINGS LOCATED ON SMALLER PAH REDUESES IMPACT OF LAND EFFICIE.
IT'S NOT A HIGHLY INTENSE USE FE STANDPOINT OF TRIP GENERATION. S MUCH LESS IMPACTS THAN A LOT OFR USES, OFFICES, SHOPPING CENTERSN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IT'S A TRIP GENERATION RATE ON AVERAGE THATR MAYBE LESS THAN THE SINGLE FAMIO THE INTENSITY OF IT IS VERY, VE
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AS I SAID, MODERN SELF STORE ACS SELF CONTAINED TO ONE BUILDING H INCLUDES THE LOADING AND OFF OFS TYPICALLY YOU WALK INTO THE LOBE OFFICE IS THERE AND THEN THE ELE ACCESS ABLE FROM THE LOBBY AND O YOUR LEVEL AND GET ACCESS TO YOY FROM THE INSIDE. SO THIS LENDSO PROVIDING A SECURE SAFE AND REAA NECESSARY SERVICE THAT'S IN HIGY RESIDENTS. IT REALLY DOESN'T CY NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON ADJUST ANTTHE PREDON. >> PREDOMINANT USER ARE HOME OWI HAVE TWO RIGHT NOW AND I'VE HADS FOUR. SO HOME OWNERS LOVE TO DE TO USE THESE BECAUSE THEY FREE R GARAGES FOR THEIR CARS LIKE THED LIKE TO USE. SO CLAY COUNTY ISE WE AT A QUARTER OF A MILLION PE DO YOU KNOW WHEN I CAME HERE ANE FIRST DISTRICTING MAP, THE CENSI USED SHOWED 106,000 PEOPLE IN C AND HERE WE ARE WHAT ARE WE AT R OF A MILLION NOW, ED? A QUARTER AVE MILLION. WE WANTO INCREASE OUR PRESENCE HERE AND K IT'S A VALUABLE SERVICE AND NECY SERVICE AND DESIRED SERVICE. SE PROPOSED THIS AMENDMENT TO UPDAD MODERNIZE THE COUNTY SELF STORAE LOCATIONS. WE THINK THEY ARE VF DAY. THESE REGULATIONS GOVERN SITE LS AND ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. WU KNOW DISCUSSED THIS WITH STAFF.T DOWN WITH STAFF. WE WERE ANXIOE THIS REALLY OUT OF DATE REGULATD BRING IT INTO THE MODERN ERA TOT WHAT YOU SEE HERE FROM THE STANF THE MODERN DESIGN AND THE MODERT OF SELF STORAGE WHICH IS SELF CD CONTROL. SO THE PRINCIPAL CHANE PERFECT PROPOSES IN THIS LEGISLI WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTIONE CODE IS WRITTEN WITH TWO PARTS,I SAY TWO PARTS, THE CONDITIONAL R WHAT IS CALLED MINI STORAGE WARN THE CODE BUT IT'S OURSELF STORAT WE'RE AFTER. HAS TWO PARTS, ONR SINGLE STORY AND ONE FOR MULTI O SOME OF THESE CHANGES ARE A A PO BOTH AND SOME ARE SEPARATELY. FOR BOTH OF THE TYPES OF DEVELOT SINGLE STORY, MULTI STORY, WE AG THE ARCHITECTURAL REGULATIONS TO CORRESPOND WITH MODERN DESIGN SS THAT I AM DEM DEMONSTRATING HER.
WE'RE DELETING DIRECT ACCESS TON ARTERIAL ROAD REQUIRE MENT. ITO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT WAS WRITTENE CODE IN THE FIRST PLACE. I DONW WHAT THE ACCESSIBILITY WAS OTHEE BIAS ABOUT THE OLD STYLE THAT SE WAS UNA ATTRACTIVE AND NEEDED TE RELEGATED OUT TO THESE ARTERIALO ARTERIALS CURRENTLY IN CLAY COUD THAT'S U.S. 17 AND STATE ROAD 2E ALTERNATIVES ARE LIMITED UNDER T CODE YOU CAN'T PUT THEM, YOU KNU CANNOT PUT THEM OUT ON THESE, AE ELSE IN THE COUNTY. SO YOU THIT THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY. PEOPD HAVE TO TRAVEL A GREAT DISTANCED SOME SELF STORAGE. SO IT'S A CE TO PATRONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FE LOAD TRIP GENERATION RATE IT DOT REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ST
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IT'S GOT TO BE ON AN ARTERIAL IS THE THINKING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, D UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS A VERY HIGE TRIP GENERATOR. BUT IT'S NOT. T A VERY LOW. SO THE REASONS FORT BE ON AN ARTERIAL, I JUST THINKT THAT'S OUT OF DATE AND MAYBE THF SOME BIAS ABOUT THE OLD STYLE WY WERE MAYBE A BOX, A BLACK WALL,G ISLAND ALREADY HAS ONE OF THESEF FACILITIES, IT'S NOT ATLANTICS S A VIEW SIMILAR TO THAT IF YOU WLTO THE NEXT SCREEN. >> SO TO THE LEFT IS THAT FACILU SEE HOW IT IS SIMILAR TO THE ARE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING TO NOW. IT WEST PARKWAY AND BEHIND THE HOMF FLEMING ISLAND.
>> AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TS DIRECTLY NEXT TO AND A COULDN'TS IN MY PICTURE. THIS IS MY PICTD THIS IS AS WIDE AS I COULD GET W THAT IT'S SITTING NEXT TO A SENG FACILITY.
>> IT'S NOT AS IF THE USES ARE T ABLING WITH SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE MOAT THAT EAST WEST PS NOT AN ARTERIAL. AND AH LOW THD EARS', THERE'S ONE DOWN ON 220 E RAILROAD TRACKS. THAT'S BEEN A THAT'S NOT AN ARTERIAL. THIS IS GOING TO BE LIMITED TO R COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. IE DID A GOOD JOB OF POINTING OUT S WILL BE APPLICABLE. BB, BB1, BM FILLED ACTIVITY CENTER AND PUD.
IT WON'T JUST GO ANYWHERE. IT E TO FIT WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE CD
COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. >> AND IF YOU CONSIDER THE ARCHL STYLE HERE IT BECOMES DIFFICULTO DISCONTINUE GA DISTINGUISH BETWE OFFICE AND ROOF WALL RELIEVE ANS STRAITION. A FANCY WORD, WINDOD WAY TO TWIST CONTINUE GUSHER BEA RETAIL ES STAN STAB BLISH MENT.E
BUILDING OR AN APARTMENT COMPLE. >> SO THE READ WAY REQUIRE MENTS
TO GO. >> WE'VE REVISED AND ADD ADD LAE SETBACK AND REQUIREMENTS AND UPE PARKING REGULATIONS TO CORRESPOH MODERN DESIGN STANDARDS. THOSE ARE FOR THE TWO STYLES, TE AND MULTI STORY. FOR SINGLE ST. WE'VE CHANGED THE FLOORING RATID REDUCED OR ELIMINATED THE MAXIMG COVERAGE. AND THE MINIMUM OPEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING EFT LAND USE AND NOT TYING UP COMMED AND IN EFFICIENT USE. SO THAT'R MOTIVATION. THE LANDSCAPING RE PARKING ISLANDS. RETENTION, DEN PONDS AND ANY BUFFER THAGZ REQUE ADJUST ANT PROPERTY. FOR EXAMPR BOAT STORAGE, HAVE YOU TO HAVE G MASONRY WALL AROUND THAT PORTIOE BUFFER. ASSIGNING A PERCENTAGES REQUIRE MENT DOESN'T MAKE A LOTE IN THE CONTENTS OF COMMERCIAL D IN MANY THE PURCHASE OF EXTRA LT WOULD BE ACQUIRED TO ACHIEVE THD
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REALLY JUST BE A WASTE OF THE L AND IN A SENSE CONTRIBUTE THAT K ABOUT BIGGER CAMPUSES WITH SMALR FOOTPRINTS AND IT'S JUST AN IN T WAY TO GO ABOUT CITING DEVELOPMD WE'VE ALSO ELIMINATED THESE DATY REGULATIONS. FOR MULTI STORY DEVELOPMENTS. WE DE LEADED THEM FAR AND PROVIDED IN PLACE OF ITS FLOOR AREA OF THE FIRST BUILDINT FLOOR WILL NOT EXCEED 80% OF TH SO THE AS YOU GO UP, YOUR FLOORECAN'T BE ANY LARGER THAN YOUR F. >> WORTH WISE FLOOR AREA RATIO O ACCOUNT ALL FLOORS AND AGAIN, WT DOES IS SQUEEZES IT DOWN ON THET PRIFNT YOUR BUILDING AND LEAVESF OPEN SPACE THAT IS IN EFFICIENTA
SCARCE RESOURCE COMMERCIAL LAND. >>> WE'VE REDUCED SOME SET BACKT FOR THE REAR SETBACK ADJACENT TE RESIDENTIAL OF 25 FEET. WE'VE D MAXIMUM HEIGHT REGULATIONS TO CD WITH MODERN DESIGN STANDARDS,.
>> AND WE'VE REDUCED OPEN SPACEO 20%. I PROPOSED A COUPLE OF RED I GUESS THAT IS WHAT YOU WERE RO AS YOU HAVE HANDED OUT.
WELL, TOTAL CHANGES WERE HANDEDT INCLUDING THOSE CHANGES.
>> OKAY. SO WE'RE IN AGREEMENTE CHANGES.
SO MIKE, THE CURRENT, THE ONE YT YESTERDAY OR HANDED OUT TONIGHTL THE CHANGES IN IS? ALL OF IT, YES.
>> OKAY. THERE WAS WAS A LITTL WE DIDN'T GET A MARKED UP COPY R PACKAGE INITIALLY SO IT WAS HARL WHAT THE CHANGES WERE. SO CONTE MR. SCRUBY IF YOU HAVE SOMETHIN. SO WE THINK THAT SELF STORAGE IE THAT CAN ENHANCE A COMMERCIAL AH LESS IMPACTS TO COMMUNITY OR TOD RETAIL. NOW AN EXAMPLE OF A MOF STORAGE BEING DEVELOPED BY ATLAS JEWELTON CREEK, CLIMATE CONTROLD FACILITY LOCATED ON RACE TRACK .
JOHN'S COUNTY. MIKE, WOULD YOU -- SO IF YOU LOS OVERHEAD, YOU CAN SEE THE FACILS OUTLINED IN RED, AND IT'S THIS Y THAW SEE ON THESE EASE EAST ILLS RIGHT BACK TO A SUB DIVISION AS.
>> WHEN I DROVE IN THE GATE, ITN THAT SAID HOMES STARTING AT 350S RIGHT THERE ADJACENT TO RESIDENS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM DUN CREEKEL NEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. AND DURBAN CREEK ELEMENTARY IS E MET TO DAYCARE AND YOU HAVE MORG ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAN THE OAKS HOUSING DEVELOPMENT MOE NORTHWEST. SO THIS IS A SUBURB AND YOU GOT SCHOOL, DAYCARE, AND RESIDENTIAL. AND SERVING THAT S FACILITY THAT YOU SEE HERE AND COMPLIMENTING THAT COMMUNITY ANO
>> IT'S OVER 95% OCCUPIED WHICHW IS A FAIRLY GOOD RETURN IN TERMF DEMAND. LET'S SEE. SO IF YOU O THE NEXT SLIDE, MIKE, SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. , VERY SIMILAR TO THE EAST WEST F, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE WORKED CLOSEH STAFF IN PREPARING THIS LEGISLAE
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KNOW THAT STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OH THOSE REVISIONS, AND WE WOULD AE YOUR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION OFS LEGISLATION WITH STAFF'S REVISIS IS YOUR FIRST SLASH AT IT. WE'N WORKING ON IT FOR QUITE SOME TIU ARE THE LPA, THE LOCAL PLANNINGD YOUR CONTRIBUTION COUNTS AND ITS IMPORTANT TO US SO WE'RE STANDIO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAMANTICIPATING THOSE. >> I'M GOING TO START WITH ONE E I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. THEU WERE JUST SHOWING IN JEW JULIET.
I WOULD LIKE TO O SEE NOT THE BT THE MAP YOU WERE SHOWING. A COS BACK. I THINK THIS ONE.
>> YES, THAT ONE. WHAT'S THE CE AREA ON THAT LOT FOR THAT BUILD?
>> IT LOOKS LIKE LESS THAN 80%,Y I'M ASKING. AND THERE'S A PROPR 80%. I'M TRYING TO GET A FEEL % LOOKS LIKE. I'M NOT LOOKING ATN THIS SIDE AND I APOLOGIZE. I'ML WHITFIELD. 7880 GATEWAY PARKWA JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA. SOY DON'T HAVE IT ON THIS SIDE E
DESCRIBE THE PROPERTY TO YOU. >> IT'S UP THERE TOO.
THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 1 AND ON THE LEFT AS YOUR LOOKINGA RETENTION POND THAT WE HAD TO BN THERE. THERE'S A LITTLE OVER, T 20,000 SQUARE FOOT SHOPPING CENE BUILT A GRAIS ANT ADJUST ANT TOD THEN A THREE STORY SELF STORAGEG THAT HAS APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 100 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE, GROSS S SO THAT'S TWO THINGS, THAT'S SHA
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> AND SO AS WE HAVE GONE THROUR DEVELOPMENT STAGE FOR OVER 40 Y, WE HAVE DEVELOPED OUR PROTOTYPER STORAGE BUILDING THAT WE DON'T E KNOW IT'S COME PAT ABLE WITH REE KNOW IT LOOKS GOOD. IT'S WELL OUR SHOP SPACE THERE IS I BELIE% OCCUPIED ALSO AND THE LOT COVERE BUILDING FOR A RATIO ON THAT WOE APPLIED TO THE ENTIRE 10 ACRES.T TO THE BUILDING ITSELF. SO OFTN INTO SITUATIONS BECAUSE OF COSTD TODAY. WE CAN ONLY BUY AN ACREF TO 2-ACRE LOT AND THERE BY WE HO UP IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE ECONE NEED AND WHEN WE DO THAT ON A ST AND YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER OF SQU, THEN THE FLOOR AREA RATIO BKDZ E AND BECOMES THE LESSER OF THE IS BECAUSE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF AE SITE. HAVE YOU SO MANY LAND DET REGULATION THAT'S YOU HAVE TO G, HAVE YOU YOUR SET BACKS, HAVE YR BUFFERS, HAVE YOU YOUR LANDSCAPE REGULATIONS, WHEN YOU PUT ALL TS TOGETHER, AND YOU MEET ALL THOS, THEN YOU'VE ACHIEVED THE OPEN S YOU'VE ACHIEVED THE PARKING RATT ARE REQUIRED AND THE FAR BECAUSE HAD TO GO UP MAY EXTEED THE 80%E SOME OF OUR FACILITIES THAT WE'Y AROUND 110 TO 115% FAR IF YOU FY FLOOR. THAT'S WHY WE SUGGESTEDE CONVENIENT AND MORE REALISTIC WS TO FIGURE THE FOOT PRIFNT THE BD AS LONG AS WE'RE MEETING ALL THG REGULATIONS AND THE SETBACK REGS AND THE BUFFERING REGULATIONS WY ARE QUITE EXTENSIVE, THEN IT MAA GOOD DEVELOPMENT AND SO THE FARY FLOOR SHOULD BE NOT THAT GREAT A CONSEQUENTIAL THING FOR MINI WA THE TRAFFIC IS, AS MARK WAS ELUE
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ONLY HAVE A RETAIL BUILDING THAT ON THAT SITE OR AN OFFICE BUILDG COULD PUT ON THAT SITE, WE PROBY GENERATE WITH OUR GREATER SQUAR, 10% OF THE TRAFFIC THAT AN OFFIR RETAIL COULD GO ON THAT SITE. E FOUND THAT WE'RE VERY COME PAT D MOST OF THE LAND RESIDENTIAL LAS AROUND US ENJOY OUR FACILITY BES CLOSE TO HOME. FOR THEM TO STOR SEASONAL ITEMS, THINGS THEY WANT OUT OF GARAGE SO THEY CAN PARK R IN THERE. WE HAVE FOUND THAT PEOPLE ENJOYG SOMETHING CLOSE TO THEM THAT THN AUGMENT THE WAY THEY LIVE THEIR AND SO THE ACTUAL RATIO ON THATT KNOW IT PRECISELY BUT IT WOULD % RANGE FOR THE STORAGE BUILDING E IT'S SITTING ON. I WOULD SAY IEON THE 110 RANGE. OKAY. THANK. >> AND MY POINT ABOUT THAT WAS W IT'S A SUBURBAN USE NOW. NOT SG OUT IN THE HIN TER LANDS ANYMORE NOT DEALING WITH THE BIG BOX THK WALL, IT'S A SUBURBAN USE SO --
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYOY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I GOT A WHOLEF
THEM? >> RALPH. THE ANSWER IS YES BUT FOR THE CHAIR TO ASK HIS. NO, CHAIR GOES LAST.
>> GO HEAD. I HAVE ONE QUICK OE FISH PAGE THE HAND OUT THAT MIKS THERE WAS A LINE ABOUT NO SIERTN NUMERAL ONE. LINE ONE. UNDERLX UNDER SINGLE STORY WAREHOUSE. M SIZE AND CROSS THAT OUT. I WAST
CURIOUS ABOUT THE LOGIC BEHIND . >> WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON?
>> I'M ON THE FIRST PAGE. MARK, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE .
>> IS IT THIS ONE MIKE? >> NO, IT'S NOT WHAT THEY ARE S.
>> HERE'S AN EXTRA ONE. THANK YOU RALPH.
>> BECAUSE I GOT THIS FROM WHENT IT ON E-MAIL. OKAY. JUST SO EY NOSE. THON DOCUMENT THAT MIKE , THERE'S LINE NUMBERS. SO IF YOA QUESTION REFER TO THE LINE NUMBT WILL TAKE US RIGHT TO IT.
>> SO ON LINE 6, 6 AND 7, THEREA MAXIMUM SIZE. I DON'T KNOW IF S STAFF THAT CROSSED THAT OUT OR T CROSS THAT OUT?
>> WE CROSSED THAT OUT. I'M JUST CURIOUS.
>> JUST TO TAKE OUT THE MAX -- S PROPOSED IT SO I'LL LEL LET YOU.
>> YES, WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WY LOGIC TO HAVING A MAXIMUM SPES F YOU'RE DEALING WITH A MIXED USET LIKE THE JULIETON CREEK SITE. T WANT TO HAVE OUR HANDS TIDE TIEN AN ARBITRARY NUMBER. THAT WAS R THINKING. I UNDERSTAND. I THIA FAIR QUESTION.
>> YEAH, I CAN SEE WHERE HAVINGA 100-ACRE, I MEAN IT WOULD BE A E
RIDICULOUS. >> I THINK SOME MAXIMUM MAKES S.
WE'RE NOT PLANNING A 100-ACRE. I'M SAYING BUT WITHOUT A MAXIMU.
>> I UNDERSTAND. AND SO I JUSTS CURIOUS.
KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE TOO, THS BROKEN UP. THE FIRST PART IS SY AND LATER ON IS THE MULTI STORYT ANYTHING THAT IS IN HERE WILL AY WIDE. SO, I MEAN,LY TELL YOU BF MY QUESTIONS WAS THE SAME THINGI
DON'T KNOW IF 5 ACRES IS TOO MU. >> WELL, IT SEEMS ARBITRARY. IW WHAT PLANNING PRINCIPAL GENERATD WHAT DO YOU GO TO, SIX, EIGHT, E POINT YOU'RE BEING ARBITRARY ABO THAT'S WHAT STRUCK US. THE MINE MAKES SENSE BUT TO HAVE A MAXIMT SEEM TO MAKE SENSE. NOW, IF YOF SOMEBODY CAN ARTICULATE A GOOD R PUTTING A MAXIMUM THERE, WE'RE S AND READY TO REACT TO THAT. BUS THE PROBE LEMENT. I JUST DON'TE
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YOU STOP. FIVE SEEMS LIKE A NUR SNATCHED OUT OF THE AIR.>> AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION S RELATED TO THE FAA. A.
>> WHAT LINE NUMBER? >> IN GENERAL BUT IT'S LINE NO.T INDICATES A MAXIMUM FLOOR RATIO. BUT THERE ARE OTHER CODES THAT .
THAT IMPERVIOUS TO IMPERVIOUS R. >> THAT'S NOT REALLY THE PER VE, IMPERVIOUS ISSUE YOU'RE TALKING. THIS IS FOOT PRINT.
I GET THAT WHICH WOULD BE IMPERI ASSUME.
>> THE TENANTS HOPE. >> THERE A PER VEE O OS STANDPOE TO CAPTURE THE ORDER AND PLACE T THE TWO DON'T NECESSARILY. DONY CORRELATION AS LONG AS WHATEVERE DISPLACING.
>> UH-UH. >> WE'RE CAPTURING AND IN CONTIU ATING. WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITE REGULATION.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. THOSE ARE Y TWO QUESTIONS I HAVE SO FAR.
>> QUESTIONS MR. NORTON? >> I DO.
MARK AND TO MIKE, I LOOKED THROS PROPOSED CHANGE. IT IS PRETTY .
>> IT IS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HT YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS.
>> AND I GUESS THE QUESTION I HT IS DRIVING IT? WHY SUCH AN EXTENSIVE REWRITE? AND MY QUESTION FOR MIKE WOULD S IS A DOVMENTD COUNTY WIDE, WHATE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES WE COULE
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ON THIS? >> WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS UNINTEND CONSEQUENCES I CAN'T FOR SEE. I THINK FOR THE MOST PART THESES ADDRESSING A LOT OF THE, AND MAT IT UP IN HIS PRESENTATION AS ONE REASONS, PRIMARY REASONS THAT TE LOOKING AT IT IS SOME OF THE COS WERE FOR A PRODUCT THAT WE DON'E ANYMORE. THE MARKET IS CHANGEDI BELIEVE TO THE ORIGINAL TRAFTIND THE SINGLE STORY WITH THE ROLL S AND THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE WAS DE ORIGINAL DRAFTING. THAT IS NOTT YOU SEE ANYMORE AND SO I LOOK AE CHANGES AS REALLY UPDATING AND G OUR REQUIREMENTS SO I DON'T, I L REGRET SAYING THIS BUT I DON'T E WILL BE A WHOLE LOT OF UNINTENDD CONSEQUENCES, AS SOON AS I SAY , SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN THAT I DOE LIVES.
I DON'T SEE A LOT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE OOZE I WON'T HOLD YU ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT BUT JUST C. AND CAN I MAKE A COMMENT.
REMEMBER IT'S STILL LIMITED TO , BB-TWO DIR, SO THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, YOU CAN SAY THAT T ABOUT ANY REZONING ESPECIALLY TR YOU DID BEFORE OURS, REALLY JUSW YOU USE YOUR BEST PLANNING PRINW CAN AND THEN IF THINGS CROP UP E NOT HAPPY ABOUT, YOU ADDRESS THR EXAMPLE, DO WE WANT WOOD CHIPPID DISPOSAL FACILITIES IN THE URBA? I INVITE YOU TO SUGGEST A STAFFY THAT AND BRING YOU SOMETHING BA.
THAT SO THOSE ARE THE -- THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE. THERE ISNE THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT ISN'T TWD REGULARLY. I GUESS I JUST HAVEO SAY BUT AGAIN, IT'S ONLY GOING N THOSE COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE YOE ALREADY CITED THOSE AS YOUR COME AS YOUR IN TENSE COMMERCIAL USEB -1, BB-TWO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
MY FIRST QUESTION IS JUST GOINGE STAFF AND CAN YOU SHED ANY LIGHR ANY MEMBER OF THE STAFF SHED ANN THE ARTERIAL ROADWAY REQUIRE MEE
CURRENTLY HAVE? >> TO BE HONEST, I CAN'T, I DONY THAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THERE IFE CRUX YOUR QUESTION IS WHY THAT E
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MENT, I REALLY, I HAVE, I CAN O I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS IN THA>> WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION INY AND EVEN WITH ED AND I DON'T THE
REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY AND WE -- >> THEY DIDN'T DO IT.
>> SO AS FAR AS STAFF IS CONCER, REMOVING THE ARTERIAL ROADWAY IA
MAJOR ISSUE? >> NO, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.
>> OKAY. >> TO THAT IF I MAY BECAUSE THEE SEVERAL OF THEM, THERE ARE SEVEE STORY MINI STORAGE UNITS THROUGE
COUNTY THAT ARE NOT ON ARTERIAL. >> RIGHT.
>> ON 19 THERE ARE TWO OF THEM. >> YEAH. SOME OF THEM WERE APPI KNOW THAT IN THE SHORT TIME I'VE THERE HAS BEEN ONE OR TWO THAT E
AND GOTTEN A VARIANCE FOR THAT . >> THAT WAS MY FOLLOW UP QUESTIE ONE BEHIND HOME DEPOT THAT WAS D ON FLEMING ISLAND? I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS I JUW THERE HAS BEEN.
>> SO WERE THEY PUD'S THAT BEAR. >> I KNOW THAT THE ONE ON 220, A
PID THAT ALLOWS FOR MINI WAREHO. >> OKAY.
>> THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PUD RECOGNIZING THAT 220 WAS NOT AN.
>> BUT IT IT WAS BROUGHT IN FORN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT.
>> YES, THE PUD WAS. >> AND I HAVE A CONCERN THAT THT YOU MENT EARLIER IS THE DESIGN D WITH A NEW MODERN DESIGN. I LOS MODERN DESIGN BUT EVERYONE WHO S STORAGE UNITS IS NOT LENOX STOR SO WE STILL COULD BY POTENTIAL E SOMEONE ELSE, SOME OTHER COMPANN WITH NO MASON WALL AROUND THE PR AND NOT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WY HAVE AND START TO HAVE THOSE ROS RIGHT ON THE MAIN ENTRANCE THATW CHANGED WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AE CHANGED THE LOOK OF THE COUNTY.
I LOVE THIS LOOK BUT AGAIN, NOTE WILL DO THIS BUT THEY WILL HAVEE ABILITY TO DO THIS, CORRECT ME M WRONG, IF THIS IS APPROVED.
RIGHT, BUT I DON'T THINK WITH TE CHANGES AND WHAT'S REMAINING THT BEING CHANGED, I DON'T THINK WE, YOU'RE EXAMPLE, I DON'T THINK C.
>> SO THEN LET ME ASK THIS HYPOL QUESTION. WE HAVE XYZ DEVELOPEN WANTS TO BUILD A MINI STORAGE ASSUMING THIS IS APPROVED AND TO DO EXTERIOR ROLL UP DOORS LIKE N FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND DO THEYO HAVE THE MAY MASON RI WALL AROUE FACILITY. NOT LIKE RESIDENTIALE
THEY HAVE NOW. >> IT WOULD NEED TO BE HE IS SED BECAUSE THAT'S A REQUIRE MENT TT YEAH, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YET.
THEY WOULD NEED A MASON AIR RI O BUFFER THAT. IF THIS PASSES.
EITHER WAY. I DIDN'T READ IT T. ON THE ROADWAY SIDE? I MEAN, I THINK WHAT MIKE IS GES HE WANTS TO SEE A WALL RATHER T NOT ON THE MULTI STORY BUT ON T, ON THE SINGLE STORY.
>> THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF MY S TOO, IT WAS A LITTLE MORE DIRECE WE ELIMINATE THE STUFF WITH THEP DOORS WITH THIS OR AT LEAST MAKK
BETTER SOMEHOW? >> BECAUSE IT'S THE SINGLE STORF
THAT JUST IS A MESS, YOU KNOW. >> I KNOW THAT WE'RE FOCUSED HEE MULTI STORY STUFF BUT AS LONG AN HERE, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO.
>> WELL, I THINK WHAT I'M QUESTE IS.
>> ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS. >> WHAT DO WE PUT IN -- WHAT ISE THAT HELPS IMPROVE THE LOOSK THE STORY.
BECAUSE SOMEONE COMES IN AND BUA MULTI STORY ONE LIKE, THIS THEYE INVESTING MONEY IN THAT BUILDINE GUYS THAT COME IN AND PUT UP THW THE METAL TRAIM FROM THE ALUMINS OR METAL PANELS AND ROWM DOORS,E SHEESM THINGS, THAT'S ALMOST NOT FOR THEM. AND I THINK WHAT YOUG IS WE WANT PEOPLE TO AT LEAST IN THESE A LITTLE.
>> YES, I THINK MY CONCERN HEREF WE MAKE THIS CHANGE AND SOMEBODN AND DOES A ONE STORY, THE OLD, G TO SAY, THE TRADITIONAL WAY OF R ROLL UP DOORS, THIS IN MY, THE D THIS REMOVES THE REQUIRE MENT FY MASON RI WALL AROUND IT. NOT ES ATLANTIC STORAGE. THAT PRODUCTE
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LOOKING AT TODAY IS BEAUTIFUL. N OTHER PRODUCTS THAT IS NOT BEAU THAT IS ATLANTIC SELF STORAGE BR DESIGN.I DON'T WANT TO RECOMMEND TO THO MAKE CHANGES ON SOMETHING THAT N SOMETHING ELSE TO COULD COME INE STANDARD PRODUCT AND NOW WE'RE H SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK VER. SO THAT'S ONE QUESTION.
VI THE WHOLE SERIES OF QUESTIONE CAN START WITH THAT ONE.
OKAY. AND I HAVE A QUESTION TO. IS IT ABOUT THIS SAME THING?
>> LET'S DEAL WITH THIS ONE AT . ALL RIGHT. I WOULD OFFER.
>> GO HEAD. IN THE GENERAL PICF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S IN HD JUST ASK FOR A JAIRNS FOR WHAT U VARIANCE FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO B?
>> THAT HAS BEEN THE APPROACH I. IF WE DID NOTHING HERE, IT WOULT US FROM THE SINGLE STORY SCENARE DRAWING AND IF YOU HAD A VARIAND WHAT YOU WANT, THEN YOU'VE COVE. YOU MEAN BY USING THE VARIANCE E
BEEN USING IN THE PAST. >> AS A VARIANCE TO BUILD A THRY LIKE THIS OR IF YOU KEPT THIS AA VARIANCE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO T THE SINGLE STORY BECAUSE YOU PRD YOURSELF FROM IT, RIGHT?
>> THE VARIANCE PROCESS IN THISS UNPREDICTABLE AT BEST. BUT ONEE THINGS IS THAT THE SITUATION CAE LAP CAN'T'S OWN MAKING, RIGHT.
>> SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE HOW THEL IS TALKING ABOUT ON 218 GOT APPI WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW WHAT TN LG WAS WHEN THEY APPLIED FOR ANE ISSUED A VARIANCE. BUT I WANT Y WITH THIS THING ABOUT, BECAUSE Y I'M GLAD YOU PICKED UP ON IT BES THAT WE WERE EITHER GOING TO ELR SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE OUR TRADIL METAL BOXES WITH THE ROLL UP DOT ONLY APPLIES TO THE SINGLE STORR THE MOST PART BUT I WOULD LIKE E BACK TO THAT OR COME BACK TO THI COMPLETELY GET OFF OF THIS. ANU HAVE SOME OTHER QUESTIONS BECAUE HITTING A LOT OF MINE.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT RALPH. WEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
AND ON LINE ITEM, EXCUSE ME. LT STRIKES THROUGH THE AISLE WAY 1T LOADING AND LOADING LANE. ONE,T TRAVEL LANE. THE UNLOADING LANE ELIMINATED TO THE AISLE WAY DOEE STORAGE UNITS. PAINTED LINES WE USED TO INDICATE PARKING AND TRC DIRECTIONS.
SO I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'RE REMOVIN OR 15-FOOT TRAVEL LANES, IS THAW
YOU'RE MAKING UP THE 80FAR, THE? >> I'M SORRY. RESTRAIGHT THE Q.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I'M LOOKING , RIGHT.
>> AND THAT WHOLE AREA IS STRUC. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THE ONE 10-FOOT WIDE AND 15-E LOADING AND UNLOAD OOG.
FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S MICRO MANAS WILL ALL BE HANDLED IN YOUR SITT YOUR BUILDINGS ARE SEPARATE BID SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE JUST A R HIGHWAY 12-FOOT TRAVEL LANES BE SO IT'S MORE IN THE DESIGN THATN COMING UP WITH A SELF REGULATIOS DOESN'T REALLY COME PORT WITH TY
CURRENT DESIGN IS. >> AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR MICRO MANAGING . I THINK IT IS A BIT OF MICRO MA.
ABOUT BUT YOU'RE STRIKE THROUGHT WE HAVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATIO.
>> YES, IT JUST SEEMS SA PURE VO US BECAUSE IT WILL BE ADDRESSEDR SITE PLAN. I WOULD A SEEM ASSUME. I WASN'N THIS WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED BUTS TO ME THERE WAS ENOUGH TRAVEL DF A CAR IS PARKED AND UNLOADING AN GET AROUND HIM. I HAVE A CONCEE WOULD STRIKE THAT ONE? YOU'VE ALREADY GOT A PROVISION R
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>> IT WAS ALREADY IN HOOR. BY Y WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE ARCHITECL STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TE SINGLE STORY.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING MUCH ABOUT. THAT SO THESE ARE THE EXISTING WE DIDN'T CONCEIVE OF ELIMINATIE STORY USES BECAUSE THEY ARE STIO BE, THEY ARE STILL GOING TO BE D AND STILL GOING TO BE DESIRE ABR EXAMPLE, AND I MEAN THIS IS JUSE PERSONALLY. I HAVE A VINTAGE CT PUT IT IN A SELF CONTAINED, A SE CLIMATE CONTROLLED FACILITY. IE TO BE ABLE TO. SO I CAN'T DO. THAT SO VI TO HAVE ONE OF THESEE ROLL UP DOOR STYLE FACILITIES. DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE THOSE BE THERE ARE USES, MAYBE SOMEONE H THAT SORT OF THING.
>> OKAY. I'M GOING TO JUMP DOWN TO LINE N PAGE 2. WHERE WE'RE STRIKE 50-M THE PROPERTY LINES AND REPLACINH 10-FOOT AND THIS DEALS DIRECTLYE SET BACKS OR WHERE THE MAY ON RN WALL OR OTHER FENCE JUST CURIOUW IT'S DRIVING THAT. I YOU WANT P MORE AREA TO DEVELOP. YES. BUT MY QUESTION FOR STAFF IS IST 10-FOOT VERSUS 50 FEET ENOUGH AE BUFFER BETWEEN ADJUST ANT PROPE.
I THINK, DIDN'T WE DO THIS IN BN FIELD SOMEWHERE NOT TOO LONG AG?
I BROUGHT THAT ISSUE UP? >> DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?
>> I DO, YES. >> AND WE DID THE 10-FOOT AS LOY HAVE A HIGH ENOUGH WALL. I FORGET HOW HIGH THE WALL WAS.
I'M NOT SURE EITHER. >> I THINK IT WAS MORE THAN 6 F.
IT WAS DEFINITELY MORE THAN SIXK IT WAS 8 FEET.
I THINK IT WAS EIGHT AS WELL. T QUESTION. IF WE GO WITH 10-FOOE HAVE ENOUGH BUFF IFER BETWEEN TT ANT PROPERTY?
>> WELL, THE 10-FOOT APPLIES I F I REMEMBER THIS RIGHT, TO NOPT NONRESIDENTIAL BECAUSE YOU STILE 25-FOOT IF IT'S RESIDENTIAL. SI REMEMBER THAT RIGHT. SO IF IT'E RESIDENTIAL IEWRKSZ THE STAFF TS PROBABLY 10 FEET WITH THE FENCIE MENT IS AT QUESTIONED. O.
>> OKAY BUT AT 6 FEET? >> YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN SUPPOR,
STAFF CAN SUPPORT THAT. >> OKAY.
>> IF YOU WANT IT HIGHER. >> AGAIN, I'M GOING TO CIRCLE TE BECAUSE I HAVE A CONCERN. WE'VT ELSEWHERE AND IT'S BEEN EIGHT AS RV AND BOAT STORAGE. I RECOGNIT IT'S BEEN USED FOR BUT JUST ANOO C. I DID LIKE THE FACT THAT YOUT 35-FOOT MAXIMUM HEIGHT. I WAS D THAT YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO COMD ASK FOR SOMETHING HIGHER THAN T.
WELL, HANG ON. THIS IS SINGLE STORY.
YOU'RE RIGHT. THIS IS ONE THAT I ACTUALLY HADD BECAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHO IN TS GOING PUT UP A 30-FOOT FIGHT.
>> YOU WILL HAVE STORAGE BAYS TE 30 FEET HIGH INSIDE. IT SEEMEDE EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PART. HOW TALL IS AN RV?
>> USUALLY I GUESS TO GET AN RV. I NEED SOMEBODY. THESE GUYS ARE STORAGE BUSINESS. HOW HIGH DO A LOT OF BAYS?
IF SOMEONE WANTS ONE FOR AN RV. >> IF THERE'S AN RV.
COME TO THE MIKE SO IT PICKS UPE RECORD.
IF WE DO RV, WE START AT 25 ANDE CURRENT BUILDINGS FOR LARGE RV'O UP TO 35. SO OKAY.
IT'S NOT A LOT BUT IT IS SOMETH. >> OKAY.
>> EE THAT WAS GABE BOWMAN. >> YES,.
>> IN DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO TO PAGE N LINE ITEM 2, THE USE OF THE PROY SHOULD BE LIMITED TO DEAD STORAR INTERIOR TO THE OUTDOOR. NO ACY SHALL OCCUR WITHIN THE SITE WHIE AVERAGE PERSON COULD CON TRUE TE MANUFACTURER, REPAIR OR SALE OFR SERVICES. WHY WOULD WE STRIKE THAT? THIS IS NOT A MANUFACTURING STO. HONESTLY IF YOU WANT THAT BACK T SEEMED REDUNDANT. DEAD STORAGED STORE AFNLGT YOU CAN'T GO IN AN
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YOU CAN'T RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF. >> WE SEE THIS UP AT MORE GRANDR
EXAMPLE UP BIT KINSLEY. >> AND THERE'S A ROLL UP DOOR SE AND SOME OF IT IS STORAGE BECAUW MY PARENTS HAD STORAGE THERE BUR PEOPLE RUNNING BUSINESSES OUT O THAT'S NOT DEAD STORAGE. WE'REY DEALING WITH DEAD STORE AFNLGT T IT WAS REDUNN DAFNLT IF YOU WANT RESTORED, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLH THAT AT ALL. WE JUST THOUGHT IS REDUNDANT. AND WHATEVER MY QUESTION IS WHAY IS DEAD STORAGE, THERE IS NONE E CODE. BUT THAT REDUNDANT LINE S
WHAT WE MEAN? >> RALPH, OUR PLANNER HANDED MET THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WHE SAID SHE LOOKED UP ON U.S. LEGAO
YOU KNOW IT'S GOT TO BE RIGHT. >> OKAY. DEAD STORAGE LAW AND L DEFINITION. IT REFERS TO THE SF FURNITURE AND OTHER UNUSED ITEMA WAREHOUSE OR OTHER LOCATION FORN INDEFINITE PERIOD OF TIME T. SAE OF GOODS WHERE THEY COME TO RESE KEEPING.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO DEFINE DEE IN THE CODE SOMEWHERE, THAT'S GE DON'T INTEND TO HAVE PEOPLE COMD SETTING UP SHOP AND HAVING MILL.
>> WE GET THAT MARK BUT OUR CONI THINK NOT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOIS APPLIES TO EVERYBODY AND I DON'T EVERYBODY.
WELL, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH LG THAT.
>> OKAY DEFINITION IN THERE. NE WHATSOEVER. EITHER THAT OR WE K STAFF TO TAKE THAT DEFINITION OD STORAGE AND PUT IT IN THE CODE R DEFINITIONS, EITHER WAY. I LIKE LEAVING THIS LANGUAGE IN THERE T
>> WHAT HAS HAPPENED AT THE MORN BUILDINGS.
THERE WAS NOTHING OTHER THAN THE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS REDUNN TANT.
I DON'T MIND AGD THE DEFINITIOND STORAGE BUT THIS EXINCLUDES MANG AND THAT SORT OF THINGS THAT HAN THOSE.
>> PLACE OOZE. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO RESTORE IT. E MOVE INTO THE MULTI STORAGE STUT WANT TO CAPTURE BECAUSE WE MAY , ON PAGE 1, IT, THERE AREN'T ANYL CHANGE THAT'S WE WANTED ON PAGE, WE ASKED ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS E MAXIMUM STORAGE AND ALL BUT NOTT ANYONE WAS INTERESTED IN CHANGIE 1.
>> I DON'T KNOW. I'M OPEN TO HE DISCUSSION ABOUT A MAXIMUM BUT.
>> OKAY. WE'LL COME BACK TO TH. >> RIGHT.
AND I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE ARTEL ROADWAY.
I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT BUT IT UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS IN AND NO I KNOW WHY IT'S ASKED NOT TO BET KNOW WHY IT WAS IN AND I'M CONF.
>> IT PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE A LE TO HAVE JUST ARTERIAL, AS LONG E OKAY WITH THE IDEA THAT YOU LIMS LOCATION BASED ON THE FACTS THAT TO BE AT LEAST 2 ACRES AND IT'SE COMMERCIAL. SO PLUS, YOU GOT TG CATEGORY BUT PEOPLE HAVE A WAIVN AND ASKING FOR THOSE TO BE CHANT MY CONCERN WITH IT WOULD BE TO T WHERE ARE THEIR COMMERCIAL PROPN THE COUNTY THAT ARE 2 ACRES IN T SOMEONE COULD PLOP ONE OF THESEN AND I THINK THAT WILL BE YOUR UD CONSEQUENCE THOUGH IS THERE'S AE
CLOSE TO ME THAT ARE I GUESS. >> RIGHT AT THE COLLEGE DO RA DE WHERE WE APPROVED THEY PUT THE R EIGHT PARCELLS TOGETHER.
>> IT'S A COMMERCIAL AREA. FORE DEVELOPMENT.
>> YES. I THINK THAT'S GOING TR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IS SOMES GOING TO GET A 2-ACRE COMMERCIAL AND DROP ONE OF THESE IN BUT I K YOU CAN MAKE THE MINIMUM SIZE AR BUT THAT'S WHAT IT GOING TO HAPD MOST MOST COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TW OF IS ON A PAIFD ROAD BUT NOT AA MAJOR PAVED ROAD. COLLEGE IS A THAT'S EITHER A MINOR OR MAJOR T TORE. IT'S A STATE ROAD. 224. PEORI IT'S A MINOR COLLECT OR. A COUD COMMERCIAL.
YOU KNOW WHERE IT WILL GET YOU S THESE BAR SELL THAT'S ARE DESIGD
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COMMERCIAL THAT WERE DESIGNATEDE COMP PLAN WAS ON BECAUSE THEY HN THEM ALREADY AND THEY WERE KINDK WAY FROM WHAT IS TYPICALLY THINS COMMERCIAL ZONES. I MEAN, THEYE SCATTERED AROUND THE COUNTY. TS GOING TO BE THE GOTHA THING. AND HOW DO YOU MITIGATE IT?>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN. >> AND HOW DO YOU MITIGATE IT? I ALMOST THINK YOU HAVE TO BE RO IT. I THINK YOU HAVE TO WAIT UL SOMEONE DOES IT AND STOP THE NE. I HATE THAT BUT IT'S ALMOST WHAO
BE. >> AND IF WE LEFT IT AS IT WAS,Y ORIGINAL QUESTION AND USE VARIAT THAT A BETTER WAY TO PROTECT IT?
>> I DON'T THINK -- I THINK YOUT MISUNDERSTAND THE USE OF THE VAE PROCESS. KIND OF LIKE RALPH WAG EARLIER. ARE AS I UNDERSTAND ITE COURTNEY CAN EXPLAIN. IT CAN'TA CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE APPLICANS CREATED. THIS GUY WANTS TO PUTI STORAGE ON AN ACRE AND HALF ANDS IN AND ASKS FOR A VARIANCE. AND IT'S A HARDSHIP.
>> IT IS A HARDSHIP THAT WAS CRD OUTSIDE OF THEIR CONTROL AND I F A GOOD EXAMPLE TO EXPLAIN IT. MAY I -- PLEASE.
SO THERE ARE SIX CRITERIA YOU HT TO GET A VARIANCE. SIX. AND IE THE LEAST, IT HAS TO BE THE LEAF THAT WILL ALLOW THE PROPERTY TO AND IT BASICALLY, IT CAN'T, YOUE A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE GETTINE THAT SOMEONE SIMILARLY SITUATEDT GETTING THE SAME USE. OKAY IT'D TO FIX A GAP, A HOLE IN THE CODE CODE DIDN'T QUITE WORK FOR THATF PROPERTY THROUGH NOBODY'S FAULTS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE RELIEF BY TT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE FACTUALS ON THE BOARD OF ADJUST MENT FORF THE SIX CRITERIA AND I'LL BE HOH YOU. I INVITE YOU TO LOOK THATT OF THE CODE AND MAYBE COURTNEY E OR DISAGREE. BUT I'LL BE HONES, TO GET TO TECHNICALLY REACH ALLE CRITERIA IS VERY, VERY, VERY.
>> THAT'S MY POINT. IT'S NOT AO RECK IN RECONCILE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CORRECW TO PURSUE.
>> I DON'T EITHER WHEN. HE SAID HOW DID YOU PUT IT? THAT IT'S INCONSISTENT. SOMETIY WILL GRANT THEM AND THEY DON'T T THE CRITERIA AND OTHER TIMES THT GRANT. THAT'S REALITY. I'LL TU I'VE BEEN THERE HUNDREDS OF TIMH BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS AND SOMEBOS OUT THAT THERE POOL IS ENCROACHA SETBACK OR THEIR PUMP HOUSE OR G AND YOU KNOW, THE SOLUTION IS TT AND MOVE IT TO SOMEWHERE ELSE, L MEET THE CRITERIA BUT THE BOARDF ADJUSTMENT WILL SAY, IT'S NOT GT ANYBODY AND SO THEY WILL GRANT S OF VAIR YANSZ, AGREE AS A VEHICR SOLVING THESE THINGS, IT IS THET ALTERNATIVE YOU WOULD THINK OF.
>> BUT BO TO YOUR POINT, IF WE T WHERE IT WAS, THEN THEY CAN ARES THEY HAVE BEFORE AND ASK FOR PDK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE GETTING ITT
VARIANCE WAS THROWN IN. >> THERE. I USE VARIANCE AS A .
>> EXACTLY. THAT'S WHAT IT IS. THE CONCEPT SINCE WE'RE NOT SURR
PICKING THIS APART. THE ALTERN- >> WHICH IS THOUSAND THEY HAVE N THE PAST. IF THAT WERE THE CASS STIM CLEAN UP TO HAPPEN. THE AL ROAD IS ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE DID THAT WOULD PRO INCLUDE A PUD ALH APPARENTLY WE HAVE THEM SO I GU. SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THIS ANDD ANOTHER MONTH CLEANING THIS UP,N THAT'S GOING HAPPEN ANYWAY, RIG?
>> YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU I'M ALRY LEADING TO PUSHING THIS TO NEXTD GIVING US ONE MORE MONTH TO REVS BECAUSE IT'S SO DEEP BUT IF I MY MR. CHAIR I'M GOING TO KEEP GOIA COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. ON PAGE.
BEFORE YOU DO. THAT YOU'RE JUMPING IN MULTIS.
I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE CAPTURE THINGS WE WANT TO DISCUSS, A.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ONE IS LIH IS THE ARTERIAL ROADWAY. WE'VEO WANT TO COME BACK TO. THAT AND BILL, YOU WANTED TO COO
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THE MAXIMUM SIZE. WHY SHOULDN'T HAVE A MAXIMUM SI.WE WANT TO COME BACK TO THAT ON. AND I THINK ON PAGE ONE, THAT WY
TWO ISSUES. IS THAT ALL YOU HA? >> OKAY.
AND THEN ON PAGE TWO, LINE 9. E WANTED TO CHANGE THAT FROM 6 FEO 8 FEET HIGH. I THINK THE MAXIMT GOT ANSWERED FOR US. I DIDN'T E
ANYTHING ELSE ON 2. DID YOU? >> NO SIR.
>> AND ON 3. I THINK -- I ACTUI QUESTION I DIDN'T GET TO ASK YE.
>> IS THAT ON 13? LINE 13 YOU MEAN? REDUCING FROM 33 TO TWO. I HAD THAT CIRCLE OOD? I DID. I WANTED TO GET THE LOGD THAT AND ALSO HAD ON LINE 24, TE EXEXP EXP EXTERIOR LIGHTING SECT DOES THIS REFLECT LAMPA LIGHTIN.
A LOT OF IT Z. I DON'T KNOW IF S 100%.
BECAUSE LAMPA BUT IT'S THE MOSTS THE MOST LIGHT REDUCTION OF ANY,
>> I WOULD PROPOSED FOR EXTERIOG SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ANDE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT RATHER THAF THIS VERBAGE THAT WE SAY IT HASW LAMPA STANDARDS AND THEN IT'S D. AND MIKE, HU A QUESTION ON LINE.
>> YEAH, I JUST, WE TALKED ABOUS THREAT IK FEATURES ON THE FACADS ON THE ENTRANCE WAY AND WE ARE G THOSE FEATURES FROM THREE REQUIO REQUIRED AND THAT INCLUDES THE S AND WHAT NOT, I WON'T DO THROUG.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM RESTORI WE JUST THOUGHT IT WAS OVER THEF YOU WANT IT RESTORKSD I WOULD RE THAT.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S A POINT OF CONVERSATION.
OKAY. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIGHTINE DEAD STORAGE, OKAY, ON PAGE 4 RE TOP THERE.
IT'S ACTUALLY LINES 3 AND 4 BUTE THAT REDUNDANT LANGUAGE BACK INT THAT. AND I DID WANT TO TALK BU GOT TO MULTI STORY JUST ON LINET SAYS EXPANSION SINGLE STORY FAC THEY SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE PRF THIS SECTION AS APRIL APRIL LA L PERIOD A. AND IF THEY HAVE AN EE AND SAY THEY WANT TO COME IN ANO OR THREE MORE BUILDINGS, THEY H- THEY CAN'T SAY I ALREADY HAVE AN THING. THEY HAVE TO GO WITH THW
STANDARD, IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES. I'M GOOD WITH.
THAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY NAVMENT TO MOVE TO MULTI STORAGE WITH YR
QUESTION. YES SIR. ITEM NO. 5. >> THE FLOODING ZONE SHALL REMAE REAR OF THE BUILDING. LOADING L BE COVERED WITH A CANOPY OR AWN.
>> >> WHAT LINE? YOU JUMPED TO PAGE 5I. I'M STOR. I JUMP TOPPED PAGE FIVE. FIRSTH
>> >> I GUESS MY QUESTION YOU FLOWT ABOUT ATLANTIC SELF STORE RJ, WE LOADING AN UNLOADING, IS IT THRE GLASS DOOR FRONTS ON THE FRONT ? OR IS IT THROUGHOUT ALL FOUR CO? THE LOADING, WE HAVE A A BANK OF ELEVATORS, THERE'S GLASS ENTRY .
>> REPORTER: TALK INTO THE MIC E BIT MORE.
>> APOLOGIZE. THE LOADING AREA WILL BE BEHINDS DOORS. THE SLIDING DOORS IS NORMALLY BO TWO ELEVATORS DEPENDING ON THE AND EVERYTHING IS LOADED INTERN THERE'S NO EXTERIOR ROLL UP DOOR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO EVERYTHS LOADED INTERNALLY. AND SO THATE OUR LOADING ZONE IS. THAT'S WHE ENTRY INTO THE FACILITY IS AND S WHERE EVERYBODY BRINGS THEIR GOO UP INTO THE SPACE TO THEIR OWN L LOCKERS.
>> WHAT DO YOU DO PROVIDE CARTSM TO PUT STUFF ON?
>> YES LIKE A HOTEL. >> WE DO JUST LIKE YOU'RE IN A .
WE PROVIDE CARTS THAT THEY LOADN AND PUT THEM IN THE ELEVATOR, AT
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TYPE ELEVATORS AND TYKE THEM UPE FLOOR.>> SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IE CORNER OF THE BUILDING OR MULTIE CORNERS. NORMALLY IT WILL BE IN THE CENTE BUILDING AND WE WELCOME LOOKINGI THINK YOU WERE GOING TO ASK, ISE
FRONT OR THE REAR? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATIE SITE. SOME WE DO LOAD IN THE FE WE LOCATE IN THE REAR. TO SOME MUNICIPALITIES AND I'M NOT TALKT MUNICIPALITIES OTHER THAN CLAY Y PREFER TO HAVE THE LOADING AND N THE REAR OF THE BUILDING VERSUST OF THE BUILDING. SO IT DEPENDSE YOU ARE AND THE ES THREAT IKS TE ARE CAN LOOKING FOR. WE OWE DMY WILL HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING WE DON'T WANT TO SEE CARS OUT FRONL MOVE THE BUILDING FORWARD AND PE PARKING AND LOADING IN THE REAR.
>> >> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHY WE WOULD STRIK THEY WILL PARK IN THE BARK AND E FRONT. THAT BE ANOTHER AREA WEL DISCUSS. I'M GOING TO CIRCLE T.
I'M GOING TO MOVE ON MR. CHAIR,Y CLARIFIED THE 35-FOOT HEIGHT REN VERSUS THE 55-FOOT. GO HEAD. S ALLOWS EVEN TALLER THAN THAT.
WELL, IT'S 55 PLUS 35, AM I REAT RIGHT?
>> NO, IT'S BASED ON, AS YOU MOR WAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, YOU STARTG HEIGHT. THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THT HERE. AND THAT WAS MY CONCERN T SOME POINT, WE WANT TO SAY, DONE WHERE YOU PUT THIS THING, YOU DT IT OVER FIVE STORIES OR SOMETHI. AND I'LL GO BACK. THIS OPENS IG
BUTTON A LOT OF PARCELS,. >> IN OUR COUNTY.
>> THE THREE STORY, BEAUTIFUL. >> YES.
>> AND A FIVE STORY. >> I THINK WE'LL HAVE PROBLEMS. AND EVEN IF IT HAS THE COMMERCI. WITH CAN WE INTERJECT AN IDEA?
>> YES. >> WHY DON'T WE SAY THIS RULE AT NOT TO EXCEED 60 FEET. THAT GIVES YOU A FIVE STORY BUIG BASICALLY. RIGHT.
>> NOT TO EXCEED 60 FEET AND WEE WITH THRAVMENT.
>> I HAVE A CONCERN. I DO TOO S GO WITH THAT FOR THE TIME BEINGE WOULD BO 60 FEET MAX. YOU'RE LOOK TO DO FIVE STORY BU IS THAT THE REASON THAT YOU'RE T THAT HEIGHT? THERE IS POTENTIAL OF THAT BETWR AND FIVE.
>> OKAY. GO HEAD MIKE. YOU'REL ROLL. I'M GOING TO STOP THERE R AND LET YOU TAKE THE REIGNS. TS FAR AS I'M GOING TO GO.
IT IS. OKAY LET ME GET RUNG. O BACK UP TO PAGE 4 THEN. LINE 1S THE SAME ARTERIAL ROADWAY. THEE LANGUAGE BUT WE'LL HAVE TO MAKET WE CATCH THAT WHEN WE COME BACK WHAT I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, IT'S ACTUALLY IN SEVERAL PLACEST LINE 17, ENTRANCE WILL BE ORIENE STREET THAT THE BUILDING FRONTSF THEY HAVE MULTIPLE FRONT TAJES,S FINE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THA, IT'S BASICALLY YOU PICK WHAT STT IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. Y TALKED ABOUT THE 80%. THIS SEPN BUILDING SET. OKAY. LINE 31. G SET BACKS. A MINIMUM OF 25 FEEE FRONT, 10 FEET ON THE SIDES. 1N THE REAR. AND THIS IS RESIDENT, 25 FEET. THE ISSUE OR THE QUESI GUESS VI ABOUT THAT IS FIRST OF, GENERALLY ADJACENT DOESN'T APPLS
ADJACENT IS A PROPERTY LINE, RI? >> YES, AND IF YOU HAVE A BLOCKS STREETS ON ALL FOUR SITES OF SIT AND YOU PICK ONE OF THOSE TO BET OF THE BUILDING, NOW ON THE SIDE ONLY 10 FEET WAY BUT YOU'RE STI IF IT'S ANOTHER PROPERTY IS ONET IF IT'S A STREET.
YOU KNOW LIKE IN THE RESIDENTIAE STREET TREAT A SIDE YARD LIKE AD
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IF IT'S ON THE CORNER. IT HAS THE SAME TET SET BACKS. S THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. SOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT HAS A STREE SIDE, THE SETBACK SHOULD BE THES THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING JUST O IN RESIDENTIAL WHEN WE TREAT THR LOTS THAT WAY. I DON'T KNOW WHE SAW ON THAT WAS BUT THAT WAS ONE THINGS THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT. S.>> SO YOU'RE SAYING GO 25 ON SI. >> NO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE D PROBABLY BE LANGUAGE LIKE WE HAN RESIDENTIAL WHERE IT SAYS IF THA STREET. THE THING OF THIS IS JUST BEINGA SQUARE BLOCK OR A CORNER. CORNA BETTER EXAMPLE. IT'S A CORNER.E SET BACKS FOR THE FRONT AND THEE SET BACKS FOR THE SIDE BUT IF YO THE RESIDENTIAL ZONINGS WHAT YOS IF A HOUSE SITS ON A CORNER, THD SET BACKS ARE THE SAME AS THE F RIGHT.
YOU CAN'T HAVE T- A 25-FOOT YARK AND THEN ONLY A 5-FOOT SETBACK E YARD IF IT FACES A STREET. YOUT SAME WIDER SETBACK.
SO ON A CORNER LOT CONDITION, TR PROPOSING THAT WE GO 25 ON THE M JUST SAYING IF THERE'S A STREETS WE SHOULD TREAT IT THE SAME AS .
OR AT LEAST AT LEAST WIDEN IT UN A SIDE SETBACK TYPICALLY WOULD K AT IT MORE LIKE A SIDE 25, YOU D WHAT I'M SAYING?
OH YEAH. >> WHERE YOU HAVE A CORNER.
>> YES. >> WE ORIENTED THIS IS THE FRONS IS OUR 25 FEET. YOU WANT TO PUT 25 OVER HERE ONS STREET? OR SOMETHING LARGE EARN THAN A L
SIDE SETBACK. >> YES, I'D LIKE IT TO BE THE S.
>> WELL, YOU'VE GOT TWO FRONTS. IN MY OPINION IT IS THE SAME.
IT'S LIKE TWO FRONTS. IF YOU'RE ON A CORNER.
>> AND THE CURRENT REGULATION IY 15 FEET FOR THE SIDE SETBACK ANT
THAT RIGHT? >> YEP. DID SOMEBODY SAY NO?
>> LINE 31, WE STRUCK 15 FEET OS AND WE WENT TO 10 FEET.
>> AGAIN, TO PROMOTE THE EFFICIF THIS VALUABLE LAND AND NOT RELEO JUST CAMPUS, OKAY. THE USE IS E INSIDE.
I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THAT WITH AC BRAIN TRUST BUT I UNDERSTAND YOO GO WITH SOMETHING ON THE CORNERE HAVE 25 HERE. THINK ABOUT WHATH HOUSES. WE DON'T LIKE THE SIDEW IF WE HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AREA AW LIKE SEVEN OR 5-FOOT SET BACKS,M PT THOSE IF IT'S A CORNER LOT AE THEM HAVE MORE OF A SETBACK BECU DON'T WANT TO HOUSE 5 FEET OFF E SIDEWALK. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
>> UH-HUH. >> I JUST DON'T KNOW IF I CAN WT BACK ANY AT THIS POINT. OKAY.
>> WELL, THAT WAS ONE OF THEM T, THE MEERDZ I THINK THAT'S ALL IN PAGE FOUR DPI. MIKE YOU HIT SOS STUFF ON 5. THIS IS PAGE 4.
>> I JUST WANT A CLARIFICATION IF ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL OFFIR INCOME PAT ABLE LAND USE DECEMBG NISMGHTS BY INCOME PAT ABLE DOEN A ZONE WHERE MANY WAREHOUSES ART ALLOWED.
>> IS THAT WHAT THAT MEANS? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE UP TO THS
IM INTERPRETATION OF WHAT IT WO. >> I WOULD LEAN THAT WAY TODAY G HERE WITH THAT QUESTION IEVMENTE AN ISSUE, I JUST WANTED CLARIFIN THAT ONE. WE HAVE THE SAME THIT THE BOAT STORAGE HERE THAT WE HE OTHER ONE ON LINE 42. BOAT CHAS IS ONE OF STAFF'S REVISION WHERY ADDED THE SECOND SENTENCE OR THT SENTENCE. ISN'T THAT THE ONE. T WAS IN THE SINGLE STORY REGULATT WASN'T IN THE MULTI STORY ONE. F PICKED UP ON. THAT THEY SAID DO YOU HAVE A PRH THAT? AND WE SAID NO, WE DON'T HAVE AM
DOING THAT FOR THE MULTI STORY . >> OKAY. SO THE ONLY THING WOUE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT 8 FEET INF 6 FEET FOR THE WALL BECAUSE THAE
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DID AT THE OTHER ONE. >> IS THAT RIGHT?
>> YEAH. ALL RIGHT. PAGE 6. WHAT DO I N PAGE 6. WE HAVE THE SAME THINGD STORAGE.
>> WE'LL RESTORE THAT. ADD THA. >> I DON'T SEE A REAL PROBLEM BD THREE OR MORE OF THE TECHNIQUESE FIVE. I THINK THE OLD WORDING Y SAID YOU HAD TO USE ALL OF THEM. THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL.
BUT THIS GIVES STAFF A CHANCE TE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS TO CHECK BO.
I'M OKAY WITH IT. I JUST WANTET OUT THE OLD CODE SAID YOU HAD TL
THESE THINGS. >> IT WAS ON US.
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT. >> IF I COULD POINT OUT ALSO THE REQUIRE MENT IS IN THE SINGLE SO THAT WILL HELP WITH SOME OF THEF HOW TO PROTECT THE VIEW OF THE E STORY IN A SMALL AREA. PLUS. T BACKS MAKE PUTTING A STORAGE ONE LOT PRETTY IM PRACTICAL.
>> AND I CREDIT MIKE BROWN FOR. THAT HE IS THE ONE THAT SAID YO, STAFF, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KINF OBJECTIVE CRITERIA TO IDENTIFY O ACHIEVE REDUCTION IN MASS SO LET THIS THREE OR MORE AND WE SAID A GRIEVE WITH THAT. AGREE WITH TH. THEN, LINE 25, WHERE IT TALKS AE FRONT WINDOWS ON THE ELEVATION.Y HAVE SEEN IT IN HERE. I DON'T R IT. DID WE SET A MINIMUM COVERA FOR THOSE THINGS. I MEAN, I COUA STORE FRONT WINDOW ON THIS PRETE BUILDING AND MEET THOSE.
>> YOUR STAFF WILL BE REVIEWINGO DETERMINE WHETHER IT ACHIEVES AN
>> SO THAT WILL BE THE CONTROL. >> OKAY.
>> SO IF SOMEONE JUST PUTS A POW IN, THAT'S NOT GOING TO PASS.
>> YES. I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU BE YOU'RE ON A ROLL BUT IF WE GO BE SINGLE STORY, WE LEFT WINDOWS FE STREETS BUT ON THIS ONE A MULTIY WE'RE STRIKING WINDOWS FACING T WHY WOULD WE STRIKE THAT? THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE BUILT BACK OF THE BUILDING AND WE LOSL HAVING THE WINDOWS ON THE FRONTK
THAT MAYBE WHAT YOU WERE -- >> I THINK THAT'S ELSEWHERE IN .
I THINK IT WAS ON THE NEXT PAGE. OKAY. GO HEAD.
>> SO WE WERE GOING TO RESTORE . >> IS THIS JUST A, ON LINE 30, , 31, SUB PARAGRAPHS, XIIIA THROUO SHALL NOT APPLY TO BUILDING FA I THINK IS THE NUMBERING CORRECT ? OR ARE WE --
>> THE NUMBERING, I WILL TELL YE NUMBERING WAS MESSED UP BEFORE.
>> THEY MAY NOT HAVE CORRECTED T COMPLETELY.
I THINK YOU MENT TO SAY 14, XIVH O, IS THAT WHAT THAT MENT?
>> YES. SO THAT'S GOT TO BE FIXED.
LINE 26 ON PAGE 6, WE HAVE AN I. THAT CERTAINLY NOT UNREASONABLE.
LET'S GET TO THE NEXT PAGE AND L SEE BECAUSE I GOT A FEELING IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I WAS JUST GOING SAY WE'LL RESTT
LANGUAGE. >> OKAY. LINE 9 ON PAGE 7 WHICE FEND IS STRAITION AND IT TALKS T BUILDING AND FA FACADE THAT FACT STREET. BLAH BLAH BLAH AND MY N AND I PUT IT HERE WAS, WHAT ABOE SIDES THAT FACE ANOTHER STREET,I THINK WAS YOUR QUESTION, I JUSTO TIE IT UP WITH THIS, AGAIN, IF A CORNER, YOU GOT THIS NICE FRONTU
SAY I'M FACING THIS STREET. >> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FENESTRATI
PICK THIS UP. >> I SEE THIS. I'M MORE CONCERT WHAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL DO AND WR NOT IT'S IN HERE TO MAKE THEM D.
WELL, WE HAVE FENESTRATION AS YN TELL. WELL, IT IS BUT I THINK F
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YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER PAGE, E WILLING TO RESTORE THAT.>> ON PAGE 6. IN COLLUSION OF T AND OTHER WINDOWS.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY COVER IT RI IF WE JUST RESTORE THAT. THIS .
, CORRECT? >> YES, G. AND SINCE WE'RE SAYL HAVE IN COLLUSION AND WHAT THEYG DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE TO SAY IE ONE FACING THE STREET INSTEAD OE FRONT ENTRANCE THAT YOU QUONT AE FENESTRATION TECHNIQUES TO THE E BUILDING.
>>> >> I THINK WE'RE GOING HAVE TO D WORK ON THIS. WE HAVE.
>> INSTEAD OF RIGHT NOW. I UNDD YOUR POINT.
IF WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON THIS E EXTERIOR LIGHTING. I FOR ONE WR THAT WORDING TO SAY AS FOUND INA BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, EVERYTHING E DOING HERE, YOU GOT TO A TRACK , DOWN LIGHTING. KEEPING THE FOOS DOWN AND ALL WHICH IS WHAT LAMPA WHOLE SECTION ON LIGHTING THAT , DON'T SHINE LIGHT ON OTHER PROP YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH II WOULD THINK. DON'T SPILL LIGHT ON OTHER PROPA YEAH, SURE, THE CUT OFF LIGHTIND OF TRYING TO SPELL IT OUT IN HES SOMEWHERE IN OUR CODE, LET'S REO OOMPLET AND ANOTHER SUGGESTION D COUNTY A TORE NEXT WHY DON'T YOE ALAMPA RESTRICTIONS AND MAKE THM
APPLICABLE THROUGHOUT THE COUNT. >> ? BECAUSE I'M NOT WUNT THAT CAN D. IS THAT A DO, DON'T FOR YOU. IT READ THOSE ROW STRIKSZ IN A LON. NO IS THAT A DO, DON'T FOR YOU ?
>> IT IS MORE FOR STAFF. IT'S NT SOMETHING. UNLESS YOU THINK THO RESTRICTIVE AND YOU WANT TO TALT THEM.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THEM. I THINK IF YOU READ THEM, YOU WK THAT'S FINE. OKAY. I THINK. IF YOU LOOK AT.
THE OTHER SUGGESTION WE HAVE WHT THROUGH HERE HAND THIS IS FOR EY
THAT'S WORKING ON THIS. >> IF THE SAME THING GETS SAID O PLACES, WE SHOULD HAVE ARE IT PF WE'RE DOING SO MUCH WORK ON, THS MINI WAREHOUSES AND THEN A SECTR THINGS SPECIFIC TO MULTI. IT MT READ CLEARER. DO YOU HAVE AN IH DOING IT THAT WAY?
>> I LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY ARO EVENING ENTANGLED. THE CONDITIE WORDED SO DIFFERENTLY THAT I DOW HOW YOU WOULD MERGE THEM?
>> IT'S A THOUGHT. >> I'M A WORD SMITH. THAT'S MYR POWER BUT I WOULDN'T TRY. THAT THIS IS TOO TANGLED UP. MU SEE ANY REAL PRAK TA PRACTICAL O THAT.
>> ? DO YOU ALL DO ANY SINGLE STORY ?
>> THE MAJORITY OF OUR PRODUCT S THE MULTI STORY, OCCASIONALLY WO ONE THAT WILL INCORPORATE SOME E STORY AS BOWMAN POINTED OUT EARE IS STORAGED TO BUT INSTEAD OF LT OUT, WE'LL PUT IT INSIDE A STORE BUILDING SO YES, WE'LL DO SOME E STORY BUT THAT'S NOT THE MAIN FF WHAT WE DO. I DIDN'T THINK SO.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS. >> YES SIR.
>> SO AT THIS POINT, ARE YOU GUF WE CONTINUE THIS TO NEXT MONTH N THIS UP AND COME BACK WITH SOMEL YOU THAT I'M GENERALLY IN SUPPO.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE. I WOUO IS AIMED AT. AND SEE WHAT HE TT
ALL THIS. YOU SURE YOU WANT TO. >>> YOU SURE YOU WANT TO HEAR M?
>> YES. >> I DON'T LIKE TAKING IT OFF TN
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ARTERIAL ROAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON ISS A CONTROL FEATURE. IF YOU TAKE, YOU'LL HAVE IT ON FEEDER ROADS E YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD. COMMEL DISTRICT AND YOU'LL HAVE ONE OFETHINGS POP UP. >> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR RV T STORAGE, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WED WITH THAT HERE AND THEY ARE TALT A 6-FOOT HIGH FENCE. YOU CAN'TV OR BOAT BEHIND A 6-FOOT FENCE. T CARE WHAT YOU DO. 80% FAR. THAT MEANS ON A 2-ACRE YOU AN 80,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDO SET BACKS HARDLY TO SPEAK OF EXR THE FRONT DOOR. IT'S JUST LIKE A HUGE FLYER STIT OF THE GROUND. REDUCTION TO OP CLAY COUNTY LIKE THEIR OPEN SPAN THEY MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODT TO SEE SOME GREEN. THEY DON'T WE TO A WALL THAT GOES ALL THE WAYE CURB. THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF T I HAVE A HISTORY WITH ASH PROPE THEY CAME TO US IN 2007 WITH A WE HAVE A 2-ACRE PARCEL. YOU TT AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE, YOU'E IF YOU APPROVE THIS. THAT IS AE PARCEL ACROSS FROM FLEMING ISLAH SCHOOL N.2007 THEY SUBMITTED THE CLAISMGHTS THEY DON'T MEET THE R REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THE FAR WA. 2015 THINK CAME BACK AND IT STIT PASS. WE RECOMMENDED A DENIAL T MOSTLY BECAUSE IT WAS INCONSISTH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOT DIDN'T MEET YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAD FOR. THAT WAS THE ENTRY WAY TOE FLEMING PLANTATION, WE HAD FLEMD PLANTATION REPRESENTATIVE SAYIN ROBERT O HOLLER WAS ONE OF THE N SAID I'M GETTING CALLS TO THIS S TEN TO 1 AGAINST. THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT ARE THE FEEK ON THIS THING. I HATE TO SEE IK MOSTLY BECAUSE I THINK YOU'LL LL INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND , LIKE THIS ONE LITTLE 2-ACRE PAR EVERY BUILDING AROUND THERE IS NOW YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A THREEY BUILDING RIGHT ON THE CORNER LOT ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL THA0 SQUARE FEET. THAT KIND OF NOI E CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AY IT WAS INTENDED TO LOOK. ON TH5 APPLICATION, STAFF RECOMMENDED AND THE PERSON DID A WRITE UP O WHERE IS IT? HER COMMENT WAS, PLANNING STAFFD DENIAL AS THEY FELT A MINUTE MYE USED WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE F THE FLEMING DRI. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING HAI MEAN, THE RESIDENTS MOVED IN THT EXPECTING TO SEE A 3-FOOT, THREY 80,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON R OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING R THERE, BUT IF YOU APPROVE THIS,L START TEARING DOWN TREES TOMORRS MY FEEDBACK ON IT. I HAVE REALS ABOUT CHANGING THIS CODE AROUNDT OFF ARTERIAL, ALLOWING IT TO INN ON YOUR FEARED ROADS GOING IN A THE EAST WEST PARKWAY DEAL, CART BOTH THOSE FACILITIES. THAT WAS REQUIRE MENT. I WANT TO BUILD G HOME HERE AND BUILD A MINI STOR IT BACKS UP TO WETLANDS AND COVL THE WAY AROUND BY DEEP FOREST, T WALK THROUGH IT LET ALONE SEE T IT'S ACROSS THE STREET OF THE BF HOME DEPOT. I MEAN, THERE ARE S TO RULE BUT IF WE PASS THIS ONEE THIS PART OF THE RULE, WE'RE GOE CONTROL OF IT. AND EVERY TIME A NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING DISTRICT B WHATEVER ELSE IT WILL HAVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE IN THERE AND BIS UP. AND THEY DO, I GIVE MR. WHD CREDIT. THEY GENERATE A QUALITT BY CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL OF THEM.N MIND THIS WILL A FLY TO ANY ONES TO BUILD A MINUTE 234EU STORAGE ONE STORY OR FIVE STORY OR 10 FR 65 FEET. I MEAN, THE NEXT GUY G MIGHT BUILD SOMETHING THAT LOOK, WHERE DID WE GET THAT TYPE OF S?
>> WHAT WAS THE PROCESS, THE MEO BO'S POINT THAT THAT WAS ALLOWET WASN'T AN EXCEPTION. IT WAS PRESENTED IN SUCH A WAY A
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EXCEPTION BECAUSE OF IT'S LOCAT. >> BUT I MEAN, IT WASN'T A VARI?
IT WAS PUD BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF E LOCATION LIKE I SAID BACKED UP S AND IF IT WAS CARTER COMING THEI WANT TO BUILD A MINI FOR STOR AO THIS NURSING HOME OR ASSISTED LG FACILITY NCHT WE PROBABLY WOULDD I DON'T THINK SO BUT BECAUSE HEH A PRESENTATION, I WANT TO PUT TE
AND PUT THIS HERE, AND IT BACKS. >> THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE RIGHT.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> TO SUPPORT IT.
>> AND I'M ALWAYS SAYING IF YOUE HORSE OUT OF THE BARN THEN YOU'T GOING TO HAVE CONTROL OVER DIFFT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ALLOW TO CONE THESE THINGS GO. I DON'T QUESTE NEED FOR THEM, YEAH, THERE IS A PEOPLE HAVE TOO MUCH STUFF. THE PAYING THESE GUYS BUCKET LOADS O HIDE IT FOR THEM AND THAT SORT F AND THAT'S FINE. BUT IN COMMERS ALSO AND OUR PLANNING DISTRICTSE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. WEF COURSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRA YOU'RE BUILDING 2500 TO 4000 HOT DO YOU EXPECT? AND THEN WE HAVE OUTLINED COMMEL AREAS. COMMERCIAL AREAS ARE DET UPON TRAFFIC. IF I WAS A STOREI WOULD WANT TO OPERATE A STORE WT MAXIMUM TRAFFIC.
ONE OF THE THINGS IN SARATOGA SS OKAY IN THE MULTI USE AREA, YOUE ACCESS TO MINI WAREHOUSES. WELS SAY THAT LITTLE SHOPPING AREA TS SAY IT'S ALL LOCATED 300,000 SQT OF STORAGE. OKAY A 2-ACRE LOT,S 80,000 OF IT RIGHT THERE. SO TT GOING TO BE ANY RETAIL ON THAT IT WILL BE STORAGE AND THE TRAFC GENERATE BID THAT FACILITY IS RS GOING TO BE A LOT LOWER THAN ANR RETAPE.
THE OTHER SHOP OWNERS MIGHT NOTT BECAUSE YOU ESSENTIALLY PROBABLR TRAFFIC VOLUME BY 25%. SO I'M T SAYING.EN DON'T JUMP BECAUSE --T NEED TO BE REVIVED? YEAH, BUT DON'T GIVE WAY ALL YOR MECHANISMS TO ACTUALLY CONTROL E THINGS SO THAT WHENEVER DUI OR R ANYTHING ELSE POPS UP WITH A BBR 2 OR PID, IT'S AN AUTOMATIC.
ONE PREVIOUS PERSON WHO WORKED E COUNTY SUGGESTED THESE THINGS DG
IN COMMERCIAL, THEY BELONG IN I. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD AGH THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD H THAT EITHER.
I'M CURIOUS. IF IT WERE LIMITEA THREE STORY BUILDING. WHAT IF A TWO STORY BUILDING ON THAT CORNK JUST TALKED ABOUT?
>> I DON'T KNOW. >> THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT PG DEVIL'S ADD SCRO INDICATE. THRA SPECIAL COMMERCIAL SOPPING CENTS TWO STORIES. THE FORMER OFFICEG AT&T BUILDING. THE AT&T IS TWOD
THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING ONE STO. >> BUT THERE IS A TWO STORY. IA DIFFERENT FEW HUNDRED YARDS WAYT THRTION A TWO STORY SHOPPING CE.
WELL, THERE'S. >> AND THAT'S A TWO STORY BUILD.
>> BUT THERE IS A SHOPPING CENT I DON'T KNOW IF THE SHOPPING CEE RIGHT TERM FOR IT BUT A TWO STOL THERE.
I DON'T REMEMBER ANY TWO STORY. WHERE CHICAGO'S PIZZA USED TO B.
>> I'M SORRY? >>> I THINK IT'S CHICAGO PIZZA.
>> THAT'S DOWN ACROSS. THAT'S E FACILITY.
I'M JUST MAKING THE POINT IF ITT OAR. LIMITED TO TWO STORIES. T WOULD BLEND. THAT'S NOT A BAD G BUILD.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD LESS E ARCHITECTURAL ARB TYPE GLIENDZ N ESSENCE WHAT WE'RE DOING. THE THINGS THAT DROVE US AGAIN O PRIMARY THINGS. INCONSISTENCY E CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AD BACK OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIFTT THEY SEE COMING OUT OF THE GROUE MAIN ENTRANCE WAYS INTO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
>> YEAH. >> THEY DIDN'T WANT IT.
>> PETE, IS THAT THE SAME ROAD E HOSPITAL IS GOING UP ON?
>> YEM. >> THAT PARTIAL IS ABOUT .10 OFE FROM IT. YOU BUILD A HOSPITAL S WHAT FOLLOWS T. YOU HAVE DOCTORE WANTING TO BUILD ALONG THAT ROAD YOU KNOW, TO SELL THEIR SERVICEO
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BAPTIST AND THAT'S ONE WOULD YOO SEE THERE. THAT WAS THE WHOLE WHEN THE FLEMING ISLAND PLAN WAS DEVELOPED, WE PUT INDUSTRIAL, AF ACREAGE IN INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE WD JOBS TO COME TO FLEMING ISLAND E WANTED THEM TO STAY THERE. WE WANTED PEOPLE TO LIVE ON FLED AND WORK THERE. SO THE OLD '08 CRASH CAME ALONGW THAT WAY BECAUSE NO ONE WAS DOIG ANYTHING. SO THEY CAME UP WITHS MATRIX AND STARTED TRADING OFF R INDUSTRIAL PARCELLS FOR HOUSINGY TRADE SO MANY SQUARE FEAST IB DE ALPHA SIL TEASE FOR SO MANY HOU, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT. SO WE L THAT.>> >> THE HOSPITAL ARE WILL HAVE ST THERE'S LIMITED ACCESS TO THAT Y MOW. THAT'S MY STORY AND I'M SO IT. AND NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT'S OUR PLE HERE? I GET A CONSENSUS THAT WE WOULDO CONTINUE THIS TO NEXT MONTH BUTG
THAT LET ME JUST SAY THIS SINCEE TALKING ABOUT A PARTICULAR PARCD THIS IS A COUNTY WRIED REGULATIS WHAT WE INTENDED IT TO BE A COUE REGULATION BECAUSE WE'RE COMINGI SAID, WE GOT 51 OR MORFA SIL TEE FIRST COAST AND ONLY TWO IN CLAT OF THAT IS THE REGULATORY SCHEMT AMEN ABLE TO THE KIND OF THING E PRODUCING. SO THAT'S WHY WE'REO MODIFY THIS CODE TO ALLOW THAT.E POINTING OUT ONE PARCEL IN PARTT SHOULD BE NOTE THAT THAT PARCELB WHICH IS THE MOST INTENSE SO FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT WAS SELECG WHAT ALL THOSE USES ARE AND WE W REZONING TO BE BB ANYMORE AS WAD FOR ITEM TWO. WE DON'T EVEN AL.
THAT YOU HAD V- TO PICK ONE OF R OR THE BROKEN UP PIECES OF IT. A PIECE THAT ALREADY HAS THE MOTTE USE AVAILABLE TO, TO THE OWNER D CERTAINLY A LESS INTENSE USE WOO BE IN CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHB THERE'S A VERY LARGE BUILDING TS HALF BUILT AND THEN LEFT FOR YET DOWN THE ROAD FROM THERE IF YOU AND I GUESS IS THAT BACK UNDERW?
>> NO, IT'S STILL THERE AND BASA ONE STORY STRUCTURE. THAT'S ANR FACILITY WHERE THE GUY WENT BROE OF THE 'O8 CRASH AND WALKED AWAI
THINK A BANK OWNS IT. >> ? ANY CASE, THERE IS NO RESIDENTI WOULD YOU HAVE TO GO ACROSS THEO GET TO THE MULTI FAMILY AND THAE OVER BY CHICAGO, THE CHICAGO PIP THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, YES,E STILL IN THE GAME WITH YOU, THEE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND WE MADE E ALREADY TOLD YOU WE'RE OKAY WITH PUTTING THIS IN AND THAT IN ANDO HEART THE OTHER THINGS THAW TALT AND SO LIKE I SAID, IF WE'RE STE GAME FROM YOUR STANDPOINT, THENF COURSE WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO COM
BUT WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANYB. >> WELL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT OE THINGS AND PETE HAS HEARD ME SAY TIMES. ONE OF THE THINGS I DIST WE ALLOW AROUND THE CODE, I DONN A PUD. I DON'T LIVE IN A HOME S ASSOCIATION. I LIVE ON MY OWN Y AND EVERY TIME SOMETHING GOES UE FANCY NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY DON'M PARK THEIR BOATS OR CAMPERS OR S STUFF AND GUESS WHOSE NEIGHBORHT STUFF ENDS UP IN. MINE. SO I E A HUGE ISSUE WITH KEEPING THIS N THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE JUSO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE IN A WAY YO, THAT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING IN T PICTURE. THREE. THAT'S A THREE STORY BUILDING?
>> IT DOES TO ME. I GUESS IT I WAS NEXT TO IT IT K LIKE THREE. SO YES, I THINK WEE TO HE IS THE REVISED PRODUCT. M
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CONCERNED BECAUSE ABOUT THE ARTT THE ARTERIALS, I THINK THERE ARS WHERE YOU CAN PUT THESE THINGS E ARE NOT ON ARTERIALS, BUT WE HAE CAREFUL. I SEE LIKE NIGHT BOX U KNOW, THAT'S NOT AN ARTERIAL BUD SEE ONE EVER THESE POPPING UP O 209. A LOT OF PLACES. SO AGAIR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. A LOTS THESE CAN POP UP BUT IF THEY DOK BAD. I'M HOR MORE CONCERNED ABA SINGLE STORY THING AND PUTTING L AROUND IT. BECAUSE THOSE ARE UGLY.THEN WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO O SOMETHING ABOUT IT. WITH THESE REGULATIONS. AND IF NOT, YOU HAVE ANSWER TO Y ELSE. WE WILL WORK WITH YOU AND ASK YN
GO HEAD AND CONTINUE IT TO MARC. >> BE NICE TO COME UP WITH SOME- SOMETHING AROUND THESE SINGLE SS THAT HIDE THE UGLY NEFTNESS SOM.
COURTNEY WE HAVE THIS ADVERTISE, FEBRUARY 8 AND 22. SOW HO WILLT BE HABLED HANDLED. IT WILL BE ON THE BOARD'S AGENDE CAN ASK FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED E MEELT GZ.
>> WE IMMEDIATE NEED TO MAKE A I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION HT YOU WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE THISO OUR MEETING ON MARCH 1 OR AS SOE AFTER AS IT CAN BE HEARD.
THAT WAY. ARE YOU TELLING ME IT WILL GO PD VERSAILLES OOG. WE MAKE A MOTIO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO THE MARCHG AND ZONING MEETING OR SOON THERS POSSIBLE.
AND THEY NEED A SECOND FOR THAT. OKAY. A SECOND FROM MISS BRIDGO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS ALL IN FE CONTINUANCE STATE I.
>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT. I GUESS WE'LL SET MONTH. WE APPRECIATE SPENDING E WITH US TO GO THROUGH THIS LINE.
>> AND YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE E OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM YOU. E OPA, THE STAFF IS THE STAFF. BE THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY AND YT MEANS A LOT TO US. SO I DIDN'TM MISS BRIDGMAN, I'M GOING TO LEAD WITH MIKE FOR HER IF SHE WOULD O CALL ME AND HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR
WE'LL HAVE AT IT. I'LL LEAVE MY CARD WITH MIKE.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WITH THAT I LOSA AGAIN BUT THAT WAS THE LAST ITER PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING H. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> AND I DO HAVE TO OFFICIALLY E LAST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I O THAT. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY COMIE PODIUM. SO I WILL CLOSE THAT. W
[Old Business/New Business]
WE'RE ON TO OLD BUSINESS/NEW BU. DO WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS WE O TALK ABOUT? IT'S UNDER NEW BUSINESS. SO ISY OLD BUSINESS WE NEED TO TALK AB? I LOOKED IT UP. THOSE TWO PLAC, THE ONE WAS IN 1999 AND THE OTH ONE IS ON A 1 ACRE PARCEL.BUT THEY ARE STILL BOTH THERE. T SHOULD OF BEEN IN THERE. ALL R.
>> NEW BUSINESS IS THE REORGANIF THIS BOARD WHERE WE SELECT A CHD VICE CHAIR FOR NEXT YEAR OR ACTY STARTING NEXT MEETING. MARY, WR
CHOICE. >> ? I AM COMFORTABLE IN THE VICE CH I WOULD LIKE TO OCCUPY IT ONE MF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD COMMISSION.
I'LL BE HAPPY FO SERVE ANOTHER F IT'S SO DESIRED OR IF SOMEONE ES
THIS SEAT, SPEAK UP. >> THE PLAN WAS TO MOVE IT BETWN EVERYBODY ELSE. I KNOW RALPH AE SAT IN THE CHAIR SEAT A COUPLE RALPH A LOT MORE THAN I HAVE. - DOES ANYONE HAVE AN INTEREST ING
FOR CHAIR? >> I AUCTION I UNDERSTAND OTTO G BACK NEXT MONTH. SO COMMISSION, YOU'RE SELECTED?
>> NO, NO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATA MOTION. BUT GO HEAD WHAT WERE G TO SAY?
>> YOU WERE LOOKING TO ME. >> I WAS.
>> I WILL TELL YOU, VI MORE THAN MY PLATE OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
I'M CLOOK AT CHARISE IN COURT AY NOAT KNOW AND TYPICALLY TAKING E
ROT ROTARY CLUB. >> AND I MOVE RALPH REMAIN CHAIR
>> AND MARY AS VICE CHAIR. >> AND I THINK THE IDEA OF HAVIE
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CHAIR FOR A WHILE AS A LEARNINGB BEFORE YOU STEP UP MAKES IT A LFSENSE. >> OKAY. SINCE THAT SEEMS TO BN SES CENSUS. I'M STILL GOING TOO TAKE A VOANT IT IEVMENT NEED A N TOO. OKAY GRAY SECOND.
SAY I. ANY OPPOSE OOD. >> CAN I ALSO MAKE A COMMENT THE AND COURTNEY. DO WE HAVE ANOTHG AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH? AND IF SO, SHOULD BE WE LOOK AT. WE HAVE THIS. YEAH, WE GOT THIN WE GO TO 4:00 AGAIN? I LIKE IT.
>> IS THAT A MOTION. IF ANYONET IT IS. I WANT TO SEE WHAT SHE .
AND JOE IS NOT HERE BECAUSE HE . >> HE COULDN'T MAKE IT.
A SCHEDULING PROBLEM. ONE THAT WILL BE, THE FIRST ONEE
BYPASSED. >> OKAY THAT WILL BE BACK ON.
>> AND REALIZING THAT JOE MAY NE TO MAKE IT BUT I'M LOOKING AT TF EVERYONE ELSE AND GOING TO MIDNS NOT.
>> NO DESIRE ABLE ON MY END. TELL YOU WHAT WHY I DON'T LIKE T 4:00, IS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WEE PUBLIC A LITTLE WITH THAT, PEOPE TROUBLE GETTING HERE AT 4:00, IF WHY WE'VE ALSO DONE ZONING AT 7T MAYBE PULL IT UP, 5:30, 6:00 IFK IT WILL GO LONG. 5:00.
>> 5:00, I LIKE 4:00. >> I DO TOO BA OO BECAUSE THAT'E YOU GUYS GET UP WHEN IT'S STILL. THAT'S TRUE.
4:30, YOU CAN SCOM JOIN ME FOR . THEY ARE USED TO STARTING EARLY.
THEY DO WILL AT ZONING AT THE BT 5:00. ISN'T THAT WHAT WE DHOA .
>> REPORTER: I THINK 5:00, FINET 7:00 IS THE NOT THE RIGHT ANSWEE
HAVE THIS. >> AND DO WE AGREE 5:00 WORK FOT
MONTH? >> OKAY SO WE NEED TO ADVERTISER 5:00 NEXT MONTH. WE WILL AND WD TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GET I KNOW WITH YOU WERE PANICKING U COULDN'T GET HERE.
I JUST CHECK N. CHARISE, QUICK , ARE WE GOING TO BE TOTALLY ON LT
MONTH? >> YES, THAT'S THE PLAN.
>> SO I WOULD JUST MAKE A COUPLF COMMENTS ON THAT.
>> >> I HAVE SOME COMMENTS TOO ON .
ONE IS IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ABOE DOCUMENTS LOOK OR WORK OR ANY IF COMMENTS, SEND THOSE MY WAY IN E E-MAIL IF YOU SEND ME THAT, IF U LIKE A SECONDARY TRAINING, OUR S MORE THAN WILLING TO GET YOU INN AND GO THROUGH SOME STUFF AGAINI WOULD SAY SEND THAT INFORMATIONE ASAP. OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE THE A POSTED AND READY TWO WEEKS HEADE WHICH REALLY PUTS STAFF ON A BI, BUT THAT WAY YOU HAVE TWO WEEKST
AND WORK THROUGH IT. >> AND I THINK THAT'S IT.
>> AND THE AGENDA ITEMS NEXT MOE THEY LARGE IN VOLUME, NUMBERS OR
DO WE HAVE TOUGH ISSUES TO WORK? >> MIKE, CAN YOU REMEMBER? PROBABLY FIVE THAT I CAN THINK M THINKING OF EDS WALL THAT HAS OG ON IT. PROBABLY MORE THAN FIVEO FROM TONIGHT THAT WE BASICALLY .
>> OKAY. I WOULD SAY THERE'S AT LEAST SIR
SEVEN. SO. >> SO CHARISE, I DON'T THINK HOY WE'RE READY TO GO FULLY DIGITALW WE WANT TO GET THAT WAY. I KNOE WORKS WITH IT A LOT. AND I RELA LOT. AND BOTH OF US WERE RELYIR COP TEASE. I STARTED ON HERE AND SWITCHED R WHEN I WAS RUNNING OUT OF TIME I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PAPER COPIES T
FOR ANOTHER MAYBE MORNING MAYBE. >> HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO D.
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH DIGITE TRAIN START FALLING OFF THE WHE WE'LL GET THE PAPER PLANNING. WE'RE GOING TO PLAN ON DIGITAL.E
PLANNING ON DIGITAL FOR THIS MO. >> SO IT.
>> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN. WE'RE WITHOUT KELLY. I FEEL THL
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OF OUR OTHER BOARDS ARE TOTALLYL DIGITAL. I WENT TO THE BOARD OT MENT THIS MOVEMENT THEY HAD THR THEIR PACKAGE WAS THAT THICK.>> WE HAVE OTHER BOARDS THAT HAY AGENDAS. SO WE'RE GOING PLAN OY DIGITAL. BUT THAT'S WHY WE READ YOUR GUYS IN TUT PUT. IF YOU'RG PROBLEMS. WE'LL HAVE IT TWO WEF TIME. I'LL GET WITH IT. THINKU CAN ALSO DO IS TAKE THIS MONTH'A AND GO IN THERE AND PLAY WITH IE NEXT TWO WEEKS, GO IMMEDIATE ANN IT AND MAKE YOUR NOTES AND I WOO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SAY HEY, I CANS MAP AS WELL. IS THERE A WAY TOT BIGGER? THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF WE CANN FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND THE O HAVE YOU GUYS TWO WEEKS HEAD OFO
>> AND IF WE NEED TO DO PAPER, T GOING TO RIEL RULE IT OUT AT THN TIME BUT I'M GOING TO HIEL HIGHY ENCOURAGE THAT WE TRY TO DO THIR
MARCH. >> BUT WE PULLED A PDF FILE DOWO THIS. AND IT'S ONE LONG FILE. W KELLY DOES ALL THE TABS HERE AND BE HAPPY IF YOU SAID PRINT ON TE AND GIVE ME A STACK OF PAPER. N FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BRAKES ON . HERE'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO.
WHATEVER YOU'RE HAVING ISSUES WN PREPARING FOR THIS MEETING. I N E-MAIL. AND IF I DON'T MEAN AN E-MAIL TS FROM NOW. AN E-MAIL THIS WEEK. LIVE G-L-E YOUR ISSUES AND LET'S SEE IF HEE WORK THROUGH THE ITEMS TO MAKE S TRANSITION BETTER. WHETHER IT'O MONTH TRANSITION OR MAYBE A LITT LONGER. FAIR ENOUGH. AND SEE IT IN YOUR IN BOX.
THE AGENDAS. THE GOAL WAS TWO D OF TIME.
THE DIGITAL PACKAGE. THE GOAL WAS TWO WEEKS HEAD OF .
YES SIR. AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECD BECAUSE THEY SPENT TIME WITH EAF US. I WANTED TO THANK MRS. ROM, THEY DAY GREAT JOB AND VERY EASW THROUGH.
OTHER THAN NOW GETTING USED TO W LOO FLOW. I WANTED TO LIFT UP T
AND THEY WERE HERE TONIGHT TO HI WANT TO THANK YOU TO THEM AS WET THEIR MANAGER A THANK YOU OR DIA THANK YOU.
AND THIEF ALSO SAID HEY, IF THET ROUND TWO OR ROUND THREE. THEYL FOWRG GUYS TO COME IN AND GET CE WITH IT.
OBVIOUSLY WE WANT YOU TO BE COME WITH. YOU GUYS PUT A LOT OF TIO THIS AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MAINS YOU GUYS ARE UP SEAR HELP FULL A LOT OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE E DON'T HAVE ON THE FLOOR. SO ITO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS HERE BUTK THE COMMISSIONERS GO BACK AND WE MEETINGS SO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS AD WHAT YOU SAID. SO I THINK IT'SY IMPORTANT AND THE PROCESS IS VEY IMPORTANT BUT TO BE HONEST WITHF LEVELS AND ALL THE ITEMS THAT WG THROUGH EVERY MORNING THE WHOLER PIECE OF IT IS HIGHLY TIME CONSO IF WE CAN TRANSITION TO THE DIGT JUST MAKES EVERYTHING CLEANER, R AND MORE EFFICIENT FOR STAFF.
>> AND JUST TO ME, IT'S A HUGE WHEN YOU LOOK THAT THE STACK OF, PHYSICAL HANDLING OF THAT, ALL EXTREMELY EXTENSIVE. IF YOU WET
IN YOUR BUSINESS. YOU WOULDN'T. >> YOU KNOW. LOOK WHAT I JUST H
IT. >> WON'T YOU RATHER THEL GOING G SOMETHING THERE INSTEAD OF A PIF PAPER.
AND HAVING THE LAPTOP HERE HANNS HUGE DURING THE MEET.
YES. SO. >> I WOULD MAKE ANOTHER SUGGESTO MAKE ANOTHER SESSION. LET ME DS FIRST, THE MICE OR MOUSES AND TE PADS IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE,D TO PUT YOUR NAME ON THAT SHEET R AND YOU TAKE THEM. IF YOU DON'T THEM. JUST LEAVE THEM ON THE T.
CAN WE ADJOURN? I'M NOT TAKING MINE.
>> LANCE, WE'RE STILL ROLLING. OH YEAH, WE HAVEN'T ADJOURNED TG YET. THE OTHER THING AND MIKE , BESIDES ALL THE WORK. I KNOW YD A LOT OF WORK THIS MOVEMENT WE A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH 24 MAI FOUND IT VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE TE NUMBERS ON THAT ONE DOCUMENT THN
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THERE. AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW HS SO I WENT BACK AND DID IT IN WOS SIMPLE IN WORLD. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IN A DO ADOBN THE MATERIAL YOU GIVE US, LIKE T KIND OF STUFF, IF YOU COULD DO E NUMBERS ON IT, I THINK IT FA SIR DISCUSSIONS AND QUESTIONS QUITE.>> >> IS FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CHANE FORGOTTEN TO DO IT IN THE PAST I USED TO DO IT ALL THE TIME. YOT FOR EVERYTHING? EVEN STAFF REPORTS AND SUCH?
THAT'S FINE. >> I THINK SO. IT IS JUST A SEG
>> AND IT GIVES US A REFERENCE E TALKING HERE AND WE DON'T HAVE E
YOU ARE? >> OKAY. AND I KNOW YOU DID IT, YOU CAN DO IT CONTINUOUS ON THE WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU.
>> OKAY. IT JUST MADE IT EASIER I THINK .
>> SO WE'LL DO THAT. >> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S IT.
ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY ELSE WANTG UP?
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU TO THES DEPARTMENT.
THANK YOU GENTLEMAN. THANK YOU GUYS.
I DIDN'T GET THE OTHER DEPUTIES. THANKS TO IT BY THE WAY.
YES, FOR PUTTING US ON LINE. >> ALL RIGHT WITH
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