Jan 25, 2022 BCC Agenda

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THE MILITARY AND THE SHERIFF DEPUTIES AND ALL OF THE DEPUTIES AND OFFICERS ACROSS THE NATION. WE HAVE HAD SO MANY DEATHS IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. I ALSO PRAYED THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH THE FAMILIES OF THE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES OVER THE WEEKEND.

I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM COMFORT AND PEACE. I ASKED ALL OF THESE THINGS IN

YOUR MOST HOLY NAME, AMEN. >> THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WATCHING, WHY DON'T WE BRING A VETERAN TO LEAD IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. TODAY WE HAVE SERGEANT ROBIN.

SHE TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS FOR QUITE A WHILE. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY WORDS OF WISDOM TO SHARE WITH US TODAY?

>> NOT ANY WORDS OF WISDOM BUT IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN, THAT WENT THROUGH GREEN COVE JUNIOR HIGH IN THE LAST FEW YEARS I AM THE TEACHER YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT.

ORDER. THIS IS THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING FOR JANUARY 25. ROLL CALL. AT THE PRESENT WE ARE MISSING ONE COMMISSIONER AND I THINK SHE WILL JOIN US A LITTLE LATER IN THE MEETING.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

OF MINUTES. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL, FORETHOUGHT FINANCE AUDIT

MEETING MINUTES. >> YOU CAN DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

>> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> PUBLIC COMMENT. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT LAKE AS MARY LET'S SAVE THAT UNTIL WE GET TO THE ACTUAL ISSUE. WE WILL START WITH THE COMMENTS

HERE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND BOARD.

MY FAVORITE ATTORNEY OVER THERE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE COUNTY, THE CITIZENS AND WHAT YOU WILL BE DOING. I KNOW IT WILL BE HARD WORK TO KEEP THIS COUNTY AFLOAT BUT WE THANK YOU AND WE PRAY YOU DO THE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY. I AM HERE TODAY WITH THE CLAY COUNTY PICKLE BALL GROUP.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT BRINGING PICKLE BALL TO THIS AREA. IT IS THE NATION'S FASTEST GROWING SPORT. IT IS A SPORT FOR ALL AGES, COMPETITIVE OR NONCOMPETITIVE, YOU CAN MAKE IT WHAT YOU WANT TO MAKE IT. IT IS HAPPY, IT IS FUN, IT'S HEALTHY FOR YOU AND THE ONLY PICKLE BALL COURTS WE HAVE HERE IN GREEN COKE RIGHT NOW, THE

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THAT IS AWESOME AND I'M THANKFUL THEY LET US DO THAT. WE ARE EXCITED AFTER TALKING TO DR. BURKE ABOUT THE BUDGETING, THE MONEY FOR THE COURTS TO BE REDONE BY THE BALLPARK I PROMISE YOU THEY WILL BE HIGHLY USED IN ALL FACETS. I CANNOT THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR COMING UP WITH THIS IDEA IT IS SOMETHING GREEN COVE DOES NOT HAVE.

WE DON'T HAVE PICKLE BALL COURTS, WE DON'T HAVE TENNIS COURTS SINCE BOTH SCHOOLS OF HAD TO BLOCK THE BUILDINGS THE COMMUNITY CANNOT TAKE PART IN ANY OF THE SCHOOL BOARD FACILITIES SO THAT LESSONS THE PHYSICAL EDUCATION EQUIPMENT THAT CAN BE USED BY CHILDREN OR ADOPTS. A LOT CAN BE DONE WITH THIS. TOURNAMENTS, MAKE MONEY FOR THE BUSINESSES. I JUST HAD A TOURNAMENT FOR THE ROTARY.

WE ARRANGED -- I WILL HURRY IT WAS A WIN FOR THE COUNTY. WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU CAN DO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE YOU BACKGROUND ON WHY PEOPLE LIKE PICKLE BALL. I MOVED HERE FIVE YEARS AGO FROM PALM COAST. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED IN ATHLETICS.

IN PALM COAST THEY HAVE A LOT OF SOFTBALL LEAGUES. THEY ARE FROM 55-70-YEARS-OLD.

WHEN I MOVED UP HERE MY GRANDSON SAID YOU HAVE TO TRY PICKLE BALL.

I SAID PICKLE BALL, WHAT IS THAT. IT IS PROBABLY, I HAVE HAD MORE FUN AND PICKLE BALL IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAN PROBABLY MY WHOLE LIFE.

IT IS VERY COMPETITIVE. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT YOU GUYS DRINKING BEER.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF WOMEN HERE AND MOST ARE BETTER THAN THE GUYS.

IT IS REALLY A GROWING SPORT. AS A MATTER OF FACT WHEN WE WALKED INTO THE LOG PRE-A LADY CAME OVER AND SAID WHERE CAN I LEARN TO PLAY PICKLE BALL. THERE IS A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY. BEFORE I CAME OVER HERE I LOOKED ON THE INTERNET AND THERE WERE 4 MILLION PEOPLE PLAYING PICKLE BALL. THAT GREW IN ONE YEAR 1.9%.

I'M NOT JOE BIDEN, SO IF YOU LOOK IT UP YOU WILL FIND OUT IT IS TRUE.

ANYWAY. IT IS COMPETITIVE, IT IS SOCIAL AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF FUNCTIONS , THEY HAVE A CHRISTMAS PARTY. WHEN YOU GET TOGETHER IT'S NICE.

IN THE BEGINNING YOU ARE PLAYING PICKLE BALL BUT THEN YOU GET TO MEET THE PEOPLE I KNOW ABOUT THEIR FAMILIES. WE HAVE DOCTORS WHO PLAY WITH US.

AIRLINE PILOTS, THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, WE NEED MORE COURTS, WE ARE FULL RIGHT

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I LOVE IT. >> THANK YOU TOM. >> KIMBERLY.

CAN WE PROJECT THAT THING ON THE WALL. THERE WE GO.

I ASKED OUR DIRECTOR OF TOURISM TO COME UP WITH A LIST OF WHERE THE PICKLE BALLS ARE IN CLAY

COUNTY. NEXT UP IS JEFF. >> MY NAME IS JEFF THAT I MOVED HERE IN OCTOBER. I AM A VERY AVID PICKLE BALLPLAYER.

AND I SAY PROFESSIONALLY I PLAYED A PRO TOUR SO MY PROFESSIONAL.

PRIOR TO MOVING HERE, I HAVE A NORMAL JOB LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. EVERY NIGHT I WOULD GO PLAY.

THERE IS NO PLACE IN MIDDLEBURG TO PLAY ONE AREA HAS COURTS BUT NO LIGHTS.

BUT I GUESS, WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IF YOU HAVE NOT PLAYED PICKLE BALL YOU NEED TO GO PLAY THIS IS THE ONLY SPORT WHERE YOU CAN PUT THREE GENERATIONS ON THE SAME COURT AND THEY WILL HAVE THE TIME OF THEIR LIVES. I'VE BEEN OVER ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON, YOU CAN EVEN PLAY THERE IF YOU ARE NOT A RESIDENT IT IS STANDING ROOM ONLY. I GO OVER THERE AND PLAY, AND THE FAMILIES ARE, I CANNOT BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE COURTS FOR HIGH-LEVEL PLAY AND THE OTHER COURTS HAVE FAMILIES OUT THERE PLAYING. IT IS UNBELIEVABLE OUTSIDE PLAY IS AMAZING. IT IS HEALTHY. WHEN THEY OPENED UP THE GATES OF COVID-19 I PLAYED EVERY DAY, NO ISSUES. IT IS A FAMILY-FRIENDLY SPORT.

THERE IS I TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO PLAY IN TOURNAMENTS. YOU REALLY ARE MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY IF YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERING PUTTING IN A PICKLE BALL FACILITY.

THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE AROUND, IT CAN ALMOST SUSTAIN ITSELF, THE GROWTH OF THE SPORT IS TREMENDOUS AND I AM WILLING TO HELP FACILITATE THAT. AT ANY TIME YOU CAN CONTACT ME AND I WILL TAKE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND IT WILL BE A LIFE LONG SPORT.

OUR FAMILY, THANKSGIVING, AFTER DINNER, WE ARE GOING TO THE PICKLE BALL COURT.

NOT ALL OF US PLATE PICKLE BALL AS COMPETITIVELY AS ME AND MY WIFE.

BUT WE HAVE THE BEST TIME. IT IS GREAT FAMILY TIME AND IT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

IF I WILL FOCUS ON ANYTHING, YOU CANNOT PUT 2 QUARTS HERE AND TO QUOTE -- 2 QUARTS THERE.

YOU'D NEED A FACILITY, IF YOU BUILD 16 COURTS, I PROMISE YOU IN THREE MONTHS THEY WOULD BE FILLED, EVERY MORNING, YOU JUST CAN'T. THERE'S JUST -- YOU CANNOT BUILD ENOUGH COURTS. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU HAVE TO BUILD THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE, FOR FAMILIES TO GO PLAY, BEGINNERS, INTERMEDIATE AND ADVANCED PEOPLE AND AS PEOPLE GET BETTER THEY MOVE UP. THIS IS ONE PLACE WHERE IF YOU ONLY HAVE 2 QUARTS AND YOU HAVE THESE PEOPLE TOGETHER, IF YOU COME IN YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR BATTLES UP AND THEN YOU HAVE A BEGINNER PLANE AND ADVANCED PLAYER.

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>> KIMBERLY, YOU RAISED YOUR HAND. THIS IS OUR PERSON I GUESS YOU SHOULD GIVE AND GET HER CONTACT INFORMATION. JACK ARNOLD.

>> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 45 YEARS.

I HAVE BEEN A RACQUETBALL PLAYER FOR THAT MANY YEARS BUT CLAY COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY MORE RACQUETBALL COURTS. I RETIRED AND SOMEONE INVITED ME TOO THEIR HOME TO PLAY PICKLE BALL IN THEIR BACKYARD AND I WAS SURPRISED THEY HAD A FULL PICKLE BALL COURT THERE.

THREE MONTHS AGO I WAS INVITED TO THE GYM HERE IN GREEN COVE AND I HAVE BEEN HOOKED EVER SINCE AND I'D LOVE IT. IT IS NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL HEALTH THAT IS INVOLVED IT IS THE SOCIAL HEALTH AND PARTICULARLY FOR SENIORS WHO REALLY AND CLAY COUNTY, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY THINGS FOR PEOPLE TO DO YOU CAN SIT ON THE CHAIR AND ROCK YOU CAN GO FISHING OR YOU CAN, IF YOU ARE WEALTHY ENOUGH YOU CAN HAVE A BOAT. THERE ARE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND CLAY COUNTY THAT DO HAVE PICKLE BALL COURTS AND THOSE PLACES ARE PACKED.

FLEMING ISLAND IS PACKED, EVERY PLACE THAT HAS PICKLE BALL COURTS ARE PACKED BUT NOT EVERYONE CAN USE THOSE. I THINK ANY EFFORT THE COUNTY CAN MAKE TO PUT IN PICKLE BALL COURTS PREFERABLY EVERYWHERE THE COUNTY WOULD BE WONDERFUL SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> RICHARD, I CANNOT TELL IF THIS IS A T OR Z. THANK YOU.

>> MY NAME IS RICHARD FROM FLEMING, EILEEN. FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK TH& COUNTY FOR ALLOWING THE GYM TO BE OPENED TO PLAY. SHE HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO DO IT ON HER OWN TIME, FOUR DAYS PER WEEK. THIS IS ONLY HALF OF THE GROUP OF PICKLE BALL PLAYERS WE HAVE. IT IS A LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME AND WITH THE GROWING POPULARITY YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF COURT TIME. IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THE COUNTY BUILT AND HAD COURTS AVAILABLE EVERY DAY, IT WOULD ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO PLAY AND ALLOW THEM TO HAVE MORE COURT TIME. THEY HAVE BEEN GRACIOUS AND SHE HAS GIVEN UP HER OWN TIME TO ALLOW US TO PLAY BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE OUTGROWING THE FACILITY AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING FOR THE COUNTY TO DO FOR PICKLE BALLPLAYERS.

THANK YOU. >> I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE HAVE NOT BEEN ASLEEP APPEAR.

WE ARE IN POLITICIANS AND GIVING PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT IS AN EASY WAY TO GET REELECTED.

I. >> I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT 16 IS A GREAT NUMBER.

THAT IS HOW MANY COURTS WE HAVE PROJECTED TO BUILD IN A FUTURE PHASE.

THIS IS A DRAFT PLAN, BUT I AM GRATEFUL THAT GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE.

I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CHAIRMAN THOSE WE DO HAVE SOME RESOURCES.

I ALSO WANT TO INVITE YOU TO BE PART OF A TOURNAMENT. YOU DO A GREAT JOB POSTING YOUR OWN TOURNAMENTS BUT THE FLORIDA SPORTS FOUNDATION IS HOSTING THEIR PICKLE BALL TOURNAMENT JUNE 10-12. WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO BE AMBASSADORS AND INVITE EVERYONE YOU KNOW WHO PLAYS PICKLE BALL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO PLAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW THE EVENT WAS HAPPENING IN WE ARE EXCITED TO HOST TOURNAMENTS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT IS ECONOMIC

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WON THE SAME PAGE. I HAVE A RESOURCE FOR YOU. THIS IS ALL OF THE PICKLE BALL COURTS. THE YMCA AND NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE THEIR OWN BUT WE DON'T HAVE RECORD OF IT ON THE SHEET. THERE IS A TOTAL OF 36 PICKLE BALL COURTS AND THE COUNTY THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE WILL LISTEN AND MAKE THE NUMBERS GROW.

>> THAT INCLUDES THE PICKLE BALL SEGMENT OF THIS AGENDA. MR. OTTO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.

BOULEVARD MIDDLEBURG, FLORIDA. SO ABOUT A YEAR END A HALF AGO YOU STARTED DEALING WITH THE PICKLE BALL. THAT IS GOOD. THEY HAVE IT DOWN AT THE VILLAGES TOO. BUT WE NEED TO GET RID OF FOOTBALL OUT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

IT IS ABUSIVE. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WEARING A MASK BUT THEY CAN'T.

WHAT I TALKED ABOUT AT THE OTHER MEETING, PEOPLE CAN GO BACK AND WATCH IT.

GOLF WILL BE BACK IN, MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT GOING. I FORGOT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IN THEIR. BUT, THERE IS SOME STUFF I DID NOT GET TO TALK ABOUT EARLIER AT THE MEETING. LET'S SEE. A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT. NEW JERSEY TENT CITY, YOU MAY LOOK AT THAT FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. THE TRASH, THE RFP. THAT WILL GO OUT FOR BID.

I THINK IT IS LIKE WITHIN TEN YEARS. THE KIDS REALLY WANT THIS RECYCLING, I SAW IT ON THE NEWS. HOPEFULLY IT WILL GET THE DROP-OFFS, GOOD FOR THE CITIZENS AND TAXPAYERS. I ASKED ABOUT TALLAHASSEE ON THE MEETING I DIDN'T SEE IT ON YOUR WEBSITE. YOU DO HAVE A BETTER WEBSITE THAN MARION COUNTY.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET ON THEIR THAT IS A GOOD THING AT LEAST. AND, YOU KNOW THE PARK CLEANUP I HEARD ABOUT THAT. I THINK YOU CAN GIVE THE PARK BACK, THEY WANTED THE COUNTY TO TAKE OVER THE PARK A FEW YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING. I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE, THEY DID NOT THINK THEY COULD GET A GRANT FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW.

IT IS HISTORICAL. I CAN'T GO INTO ALL OF THAT. I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO'S BEAK. I'M HOPING SOME OF THE OTHER MEETINGS WILL OPEN BUT IF YOU

CAN GIVE ME THE LEGISLATION MEETING, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU MR. OTTO.

>> ANYONE ELSE FOR GENERAL, PUBLIC COMMENT? >> I'VE NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THESE MEETINGS AND I ONLY PREPARED 5 MINUTES AGO. BUT I HAVE LIVED IN CLAY COUNTY

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THE NEW NEIGHBOR HAS PURCHASED PROPERTY, AND THAT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THEIR HOUSE AND THOUGHT SETBACK. WE TOUR OUR HOUSE DOWN FIVE YEARS AGO. I HAVE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS IT. BUT IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, THIS IS THEIR HOUSE, AND I AM ACTUALLY MORE THAN 100 FEET OFF OF THE POWER LINE.

THERE WAS A POWER LIKE THEY WOULD NOT MOVE. IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO BUILD, I OWN THE GREEN SECTION IN THE BOTTOM. WHAT THEY HAVE IS A PORTION, VERY SMALL. IF THEY BUILD, THEY WOULD BE IN FRONT OF OUR HOME BLOCKING THE VIEW AND WE WOULD LOSE THE WATERFRONT SECTION WHICH IS ONE THIRD OF THE PROPERTY.

WE WILL GO TO REZONING MEETINGS, WE HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORS IF THEY BUILD OVER WE WOULD AGREE TO THAT BUT WE ARE BEING FORCED TO, FOUND IN THE SECTION, IN THE CORNER, THERE IS A WEEPING WILLOW TREE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW HOW LARGE THEY CAN GET BUT NOW, IT IS BLOCKING BECAUSE IT IS IN THE CORNER, ONE THIRD OF OUR VIEW. WHEN I MET WITH MIKE BROWN HE SAID THERE ARE NO CONCESSIONS HE HAS WORKED IN SEVERAL COUNTIES AND WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW THAT WERE GIVEN FOR ANY PROPERTY. IF I LIVED ON THE RIVER, AND I AM ON ONE SIDE OF MY NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER, HE CAN PLANT 20 WEEPING WILLOW TREES DOWN THE LINE ALLOWED THE TREES TO GO UP AND OVER THE PROPERTY AND COMPLETELY BLOCK MY VIEW AND THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT IN CLAY COUNTY. I AM PROPOSING A CHANGE TO THIS BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I DO GET YOUR E-MAILS AND I FORWARD THEM TO TERESA AND SHE& WILL MAKE SURE THEY ARE DISPERSED. AND THEN, ON THURSDAY WE WILL TALK TO THE ATTORNEY TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE BY, THAT THEY DESERVE TO HAVE SOME PROTECTION, ESPECIALLY IF PEOPLE ARE NOT

OBEYING SETBACK SPIRIT. >> >> THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BUILD WITHIN THAT 10 FEET BUT BECAUSE IT WAS AN OFFSET, WE ARE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF THAT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LAKE BUT THE PROPERTIES, THERE IS A SMALL TURNOVER THEY ARE PASSED FROM GENERATION. BUT EVEN ON THE POWERLINE THEY HAVE NO LEGAL RIGHT TO KEEP THE ELECTRIC THERE OTHER THAN WE HAVE TO HAVE ELECTRIC.

BUT TAKE BOAT LAKE ASIDE FROM THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN RIVERFRONT WHO WOULD JOIN IN AGREEMENT THAT NEIGHBORS CAN BLOCK YOUR VIEW AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO.

I KNOW IT WON'T BE IN OUR SITUATION BUT THIS SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN CLAY COUNTY.

THIS WAS OUR DREAM HOME. HERE WE ARE NOW FACING THIS. IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT.

WE WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING DIFFERENT IF WE HAD KNOWN THIS WAS AN ISSUE.

>> IT IS NICE TO MEET YOU UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES BUT THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME.

MY NEIGHBORS ADDED ONTO THEIR HOUSE AND BLOCKED OVERVIEW. I CAN SYMPATHIZE AND EMPATHIZE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO HELP THE SITUATION.

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>> I KNOW, THE DAD WAS UPSET AND SAID IF THE TREE BOTHERS YOU SO MUCH, WE WILL PUT SIX MORE.

WHEN DOES THAT STOP. I DON'T THINK THEY WILL DO THAT, THEY ARE UPSET BUT THEY CAN.

AND THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT, ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

[CONSENT AGENDA]

>> IN CONNECTION WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. WE NEED THE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND WE NEED ADDITIONAL REVISIONS AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK

THROUGH FINANCE AND AUDIT NEXT MONTH. >> WE WILL PROVIDE SOME PROVISIONS AND I THINK WE DID YESTERDAY. YOU WILL SEE THIS BACK AGAIN, WE WILL PASS IT WITH ADDITIONAL REVISIONS OR CONSIDER ADDITIONAL REVISIONS TONIGHT.

>> YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> I APPROVE WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EXCEPT THE

AGREEMENT WITH -- ITEM SEVEN. >> I SECOND-PERIOD. >> A MOTION AND A'S SECOND.

FURTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING THEN WE WILL CALL FOR VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. SAME SIDE. IT CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM SEVEN, DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT? >> WE WILL PULL IT AND BRING IT

BACK NEXT MONTH. >> WE DON'T NEED ANY FURTHER ACTIONS.

LET THE RECORD SHOW COMMISSIONER BURKE HAS JOINED US. ITEM SIX.

[6.  List of Transportation Priority Projects for 2022]

THE LIST OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS FOR 2022. >> I WILL TAKE THAT.

FOR THOSE ITEMS, IN YOUR BACKUP YOU NOW SEE THE MEMORANDUM FOR SUBMISSION.

WITHIN THAT BACKUP IS 2021 LIST OF PRIORITIES THAT ARE LISTED AND THE PROPOSED ONCE HERE FOR 2022. A SUMMARY WAS, THE ROAD WAS PULLED FROM THE LIST BECAUSE IT HAD IMPACT FEES AND THOSE THIS BROKE OUT TO NUMBER 12. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IN THE MASTERPLAN AREA. NUMBER NINE IS 209 TO THE NORTH, THEN WE ADDED THE ROAD.

NUMBER 13 WAS A REQUEST FIVE STATE ROAD 16 AND COUNTY ROAD 218.

THOSE ARE WITHIN THE DOCUMENT THAT'S THERE. THERE WAS ON PAGE FOUR A TYPO A LIST OF NON- ROADWAY CAPACITIES PROJECTS. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS UPDATED PRIOR TO SUBMISSION. AND THE NON- ROADWAY PROJECTS ARE LISTED ON THE EAST SIDE AND SIDEWALK ON COUNTY ROAD 220. AND CRINKLED SPRINGS AND A STREETFIGHTING PARTY THAT WAS LISTED THERE. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS, THAT IS WHAT IS PROPOSED.

>> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE ARE INCHING FORWARD.

I WILL TURN IT OVER. >> OPPOSE SAME SIDE. NUMBER SEVEN.

[7.  Adoption of Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP) Recommendation to TPO]

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>> I WILL TAKE THAT ALSO. >> AS WE SAID BEFORE THIS IS THE UPDATED LIST.

AS YOU LOOK AT IT, 1-445 PRIORITIES, NUMBER ONE IS FUNDED AND ONGOING.

THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE GREENWAY TRAIL. NUMBER TWO HAS BEEN ADDED.

THIS IS THE DIRT ROAD APPROVAL PROGRAM STAFF COLLABORATED AND TOOK A LOOK AT HOW THEY'VE MADE THEIR SUBMISSION. IT IS LISTED HERE A GOOD PLAN OF ACTION TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT. AND THE ROAD SYSTEM AND STATE ROAD STUDY. THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK ASSESS TO MAKE A SUBMISSION.

PARK AVENUE AND KINGSLEY AVENUE TRANSPORTATION AND BOUNDARY IDENTIFICATION.

THE PARK AVENUE DESIGN CONCEPT AND THE REAL PLAN, THOSE ARE ATTACHED WITHIN YOUR BACKUP.

PENDING WHAT WE WOULD PRESENT TO THE BOARD. >> A MOTION TO ACCEPT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION HAND SECOND, FURTHER ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. PROPOSED?

[8.  Notice of Intent and Award of RFP No. 20/21- 25, Management of Knight's Marina (RE-BID)(K. Smith/J. Pierce)]

MANAGEMENT OF THE KNIGHT'S MARINA ARENA. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

RECOMMENDATION IS TO CONTINUE AND ENTER INTO A NEW LEASE AGREEMENT.

>> AND YOU WANT TO NEGOTIATE THAT AFTER TODAY? >> HE HAS.

>> THIS IS THE AWARD AND WE WOULD BRING THE AGREEMENT BACK TO YOU.

>> AS I RECALL, THIS IS IN-DEPTH AND MEANINGFUL. >> HOW MUCH ARE WE LOOKING AT.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. OF MOTION AND A SECOND.

[9.  Approval of amendment to Resolution 89-21R which established citizen advisory committees for various planning districts within Clay County to update the established planning districts and to increase the maximum allowed committee membership for the Penney Farms/Asbury Citizen Advisory Committee to eleven residents and designation of the initial terms for the appointed Penney Farms/Asbury Citizen Advisory Committee members.]

NUMBER NINE. APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT RESOLUTION 89 -- 21 WHICH ESTABLISHES PLANNING DISTRICTS WITHIN CLAY COUNTY TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED COMMITTEE MEMBERSHIP.

THIS WILL BE EXTENDED TO THE 11TH. THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE LAST BOARD MEETING WHEN THEY REQUESTED TO BE ORGANIZED THE CURRENT RESOLUTION BY THE BOARD ONLY ALLOWS FOR TEN MEMBERS. ALLOW THE RESIDENTS TO BE UP TO 11 MEMBERS.

WE ALSO DID HOUSECLEANING IN CONNECTION WITH THE RESOLUTION AND NOW AND ALSO THE RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE BACK TO THE DATE OF THE APPOINTMENT OF THE COMMITTEE WHICH WAS THE JANUARY 11 MEETING. AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RESOLUTION, WE NEED THEM TO BE DESIGNATED AND WHICH MEMBERS WILL SERVE. WE NEED A GROUP TO BE DESIGNATED AS ONE YEAR TERMS. TERESA HAS LISTED THEM IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER AND NUMBERED

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BE DESIGNATED WITH A TERM OF ONE YEAR. >> THEY CAN REAPPLY IN A YEAR.

>> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[10.  Request for authorization to study in connection with BTP CMAR #1, Project #3, the realignment of CR-209 (Russell Road), CR-209B & CR-739B (Sandridge Road) to include a round-about intersection concept at this location and to change the typical road section on Russell Road from Rural (open ditch) section to Urban (closed drainage system) section. Also, review round-abouts in Project #3, #6A & #6B. (E. Dendor)]

>> I AM GOING TO PITCH IT A LITTLE BIT. I HAVE A WHOLE TEAM OF SUPPORTERS. AND THEN CARLOS WHO WOULD NORMALLY BE HERE ARE OUT SICK.

I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THE CONNECTION WITH THE SPIRIT AND FOR SUPPORT I HAVE RICHARD, OUR ENGINEER, AND THEN I HAVE CONSULTANTS AND JACOB. I ALSO THINK I HAVE SOME REPS HERE. THAT IS JOSH AND NANCY. IN CONNECTION WITH THIS AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE SLIDES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THE TEAM IS HERE AND CAN HELP US OUT. A BIG PICTURE OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IN CONNECTION WITH THIS, REALLY A CONSENSUS FOR THE CONCEPT OF MOVING FORWARD ON TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REALIGNMENT OF'S DANDRIDGE AND IN GENERAL, THE USE OF ROUNDABOUTS IN THREE OTHER LOCATIONS.

THEY GAVE ME A SCRIPT. SO THIS IS THE CURRENT ALIGNMENT WHICH I THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH. THIS IS THE PROPOSED NEW INTERSECTION WHICH WOULD REALIGN THE AREA AND SHOW THE PONDS AND THE REALIGNMENT ON HOW IT WILL TRY INTO THE ROAD.

THIS IS THE POTENTIAL ROUNDABOUT LOCATIONS. THERE ARE THREE.

WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. CR 315 AND 315B WHICH IS FURTHER UP -- I GUESS IT IS ON THE END OF THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR. I THINK THESE WERE JUST ADDITIONAL POINTS THEY WERE GIVING YOU AS FAR AS THE PROS AND CONS. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS, RICHARD MAY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THIS IS THE SWITCH ON RUSSELL

ROAD FROM RURAL TO THE URBAN. >> >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. THE COST OF THESE, AND WE NEED MORE DETAIL.

THIS COST $60,000 MORE. THEY WENT THROUGH THE ROAD AND ON 17 AT 220.

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WE HAVE TO WAIT SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR TO COME BACK IN. THE OTHER THING IN BLUE OR GREEN IS MORE SUBJECTIVE. THOSE ARE THE COST SAVINGS AND NOT WAITING FOR THE LIGHT TO CHANGE THE BLUE BEING THE TRUCKS. OVERALL, IT IS A SAVINGS.

WILL NOT HERE FOR DECISION. WE WANT TO GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION.

>> SPECIFICALLY. IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS WE WANT TO SHOW YOU WHERE THEY CAN

ACTUALLY BEGIN THE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROUNDABOUTS. >> YOU MENTIONED THE ROUNDABOUT.

I THINK TWO OF THOSE ARE NOT SIGNALS. WITH THAT ACQUISITION WILL

INCLUDE THE ROUNDABOUT. IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE. >> SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL

PROPERTIES. >> I KNOW. >> I HATE TO THINK THAT IN 50

YEARS THEY WILL BE TURNING IT DOWN. >> EVERY TIME I GOING THE OAKLEY ROUNDABOUT I PICTURE MYSELF AS CHEVY CHASE JUST GOING ROUND AND ROUND.

I HAVE WARM TO THE IDEA, AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD. >> IT'S NOT EVERYWHERE.

WE WON'T PUT ONE IN KINGSLEY LANDING. THIS IS NOT A DEVICE.

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>> WHEN THERE IS NO TRAFFIC THERE, THERE WERE SOME FAST CARS IN THE DISTRICT WE KNOW IT WORKS. WE ARE NOT PROMOTING THIS, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

IT WILL BE A MONUMENT. IT WILL BE A, YOU ARE HERE. THERE'S 10,000 NEW HOMES HERE

ALSO. >> I THINK A BIG DIFFERENCE, AN& OAKLEY THERE ARE PEOPLE CROSSING THAT. WE WON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR AREA, IS JUST TRYING TO THE OTHER THING IS, IT SOLVES THE ISSUE OF THE INTERSECTIONS, AS WE LOOK AT IT WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK WITH TRAFFIC SIGNALS BUT IT WOULD MAKE EVERYONE ANGRY. EVERYONE, THEY WOULD GET A LEVEL OF SERVICE AND YOU WANT TO BE SERVICE A. AS FAR AS WHAT IT WILL DO FORMER

FUTURE THAT STRUCTURE WILL BE HUGE. >>

>> TWO LANES LIKE THAT. IT IS A WHITE KNUCKLE RIDE. WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD A

FEW OTHERS WON AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

[11.  Budget Resolution for the U.S. Health and Human Services (HHS) Provider Relief Fund Phase 4 payment of $441,752.07(M. Mosley/R. Kantor)]

>> NEW BUSINESS NUMBER 11. A RESOLUTION FOR U.S. HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND A PAYMENT OF $441,000. WE WILL BE WATCHING FOR THAT 7 CENTS.

>> WE PREVIOUSLY BRIEFED THE BOARD ON THE RELIEF FUND IN OCTOBER.

WE DID APPLY FOR PAYMENT FOUR WHICH WE RECEIVED IN DECEMBER AND IN JANUARY WE RECEIVED THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO VIEW THE PAYMENT. NOW WE ARE REQUESTING THE BUDGET RESOLUTION. WE USED A PAYMENT TO PURCHASE THEN.

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>> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING I. OPPOSED, SAME SIDE.

[12.  Memorandum of Understanding with the University of North Florida (UNF) Board of Trustees, Regarding the Small Business Development Center at UNF (V. Hapner)]

>> THIS IS LOOKING FOR THE APPROVAL FOR THE WE WILL BE HOUSING IT WITH THE HOUSE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN FOCUS ON NONPROFIT GROUPS AND WORK WITH OTHER ENTITIES TO BRING SERVICES TO SMALL BUSINESSES AS WELL. I KNOW YOU PULLED IT, SO DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION?

>> THIS CAME TO THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE. I THINK THE CHAMBER AS A FUNCTION IN THIS REGARD. WE WILL FUND A YOU AND FUNCTION AND OVER THE LAST WEEK WE LEARNED, IT JUST CAME TO MIND THERE ARE UNIVERSITIES THAT OFFER VIRTUAL ASSISTANTS AS WELL. I AM WONDERING IF, IF WE REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, OR MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, COLLABORATION AND RESOURCES AND GET A BETTER PRODUCT, ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE DOES NOT RESIDE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. IT IS OUT THERE AS WELL.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE PRIOR TO MY COMMISSIONED WORK, THEY WERE HOUSED AS AN OFFICE IN THE CHAMBER BUT THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE CHAMBER.

COUNTY HAS FUNDED THIS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS I STARTED MY BUSINESS IN 2015 AND THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US WITH EVERYTHING LIKE I NEED A WEBSITE DESIGN AND I CALL THAT THEY PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH SOMEONE ELSE THAT WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING.

WE HAVE SUPPORTED THIS ORGANIZATION IT IS PART OF THE SBA.

ONE IS HOUSE OUT OF UNF. I HAVE SAT ON THEIR ADVISORY BOARD AND PERSONALLY FROM A

BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE I HAD A GREAT EXPERIENCE. >> I AM NOT QUESTIONING THE VALIDITY, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE ARE OPTIMIZING WHAT THE CHAMBER HAS WHAT WE HAVE.

>> SO. >> THEY DO OFFER PHONE CONSULTATIONS AND THEY DO MEETINGS AND THOSE THINGS AND CLASSES. I KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY LIAISON WILL BE MEETING WITH THEM NEXT TO PLAN WE WILL OFFER TO SMALL BUSINESSES AND NONPROFITS. THAT PLANNING IS STARTING PEART THE CONTRACT BEING SIGNED.

>> DO WE USE RESOURCES OUTSIDE OF UNF? >> SOLD UNF DOES NOT DO THE WORK, THAT IS WHERE THE SBA IS HOUSE. THE EXPERT WHO IS, CHRIS IS NOT HERE TODAY, HE IS OUR CONTACT BUT HE IS OUT SICK. PERSON AND HE IS RETIRED CFO FROM THE INDUSTRY AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO IT. WHEN I NEEDED RESOURCES, THE

CONNECTIONS THAT THEY MADE FOR ME HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH UNF. >> HELLO COMMISSIONER.

I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE WERE HOUSED AT THE CHAMBER.

AND THEY DID PROVIDE THE FUNDING. THIS IS WHERE WE LOOK TO

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THEN WE REALIZED THERE WAS A NEED TO HAVE MORE FULL-TIME PRESENCE AND SINCE THEN, MAYBE SIX YEARS WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HAVE THAT SUPPORT AND FUNDING AND THE CHAMBER WAS ABLE TO OFFER THAT FOR A LIMITED TIME. MOST OF OUR COUNTIES WE DO HAVE FUNDING FROM PUBLIC SOURCES.

SO VICTORIA WAS THANKFULLY, ESPECIALLY WITH THE CARES ACT AND THE FUNDING PROVIDED FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES THE ONES THAT WERE IMPACTED BY COVID-19 SPECIFICALLY, THAT IS ONE OF OUR FOCUS IS TO HELP THE BUSINESSES IMPACTED BY COVID-19 TO ASSIST THEM ALONG WITH NONPROFITS.

SO YES, THAT IS WHAT CHRIS DOES FULL-TIME AND HAS BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

>> AND WHEN YOU DO THIS YOU WANT TO HELP -- LIKE THE WEBSITE DESIGNER.

>> WE NOT ONLY ASSISTS THE SMALL BUSINESSES WITH CHRIS, BUT WE ALSO PROVIDE AND CONNECT THEM WITH THE RESOURCES AND PRIVATE SECTOR CONSULTANTS OR ASSISTANCE WHO CAN HELP THEM, WITH FINANCING AND CONNECTING WITH THE BANKERS AND CONNECTING THEM IF THEY NEED A WEBSITE DESIGNER IF THEY NEED MARKETING OR ANY KIND OF SERVICE AROUND THEIR BUSINESS THAT WILL BASICALLY

HELP THEM SUCCEED. >> THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME SERVICE THAT BUT CHAMBER CAME IN

AND ASKED US TO FUND ABOUT A YEAR END A HALF AGO. >> I THINK THE FIRST YEAR IT CAME AT THE WRONG TIME. THE SECOND YEAR WE USED CARES ACT.

AND THIS WOULD BE THREE MORE YEARS ON TOP OF THAT FOR HIM TO BE HERE FULL-TIME.

>> THIS IS THE SAME DEAL, WE ARE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE CHAMBER NEVER FUNDED THE PROGRAM. WE TALKED AT LENGTH, THEY WANTED TO COLLECT MONEY FROM DONATIONS, THEN THEY WROTE THE CHECK. THEY PROVIDED SPACE BUT NOT FUNDING.

>> THEY HAD SPONSORS TO SPONSOR. >> THEY STEPPED IN. THEY PAID FOR THE SERVICE OUT OF CARES ACT FUNDING. THE AGREEMENT RAN OUT. WE ARE LOOKING TO EXTEND THE SAME SERVICE THAT THEY STARTED. NOW WE ARE ASKING TO CONTINUE THAT THROUGH THE YEAR 2024 WHICH

IS THE EXTENSION OF THE ALLOWANCE. >> FOR PEOPLE IN TV LAND IF THEY

WANT TO START A BUSINESS, HOW DO THEY GET PLUGGED INTO THIS? >> THEY CAN CALL CHRIS THROUGH YOU IN F OR WE CAN PUT THEM IN TOUCH. VICTORIA SHOP HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE NONPROFITS AND FUNNELING THEM TO CHRIS IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO.

THE SERVICES FREE. >> I AM JUST -- HOW IS THIS DISCOVERED BY THE PUBLIC.

IS IT ON OUR WEBSITE OR IS IT A HIDDEN JIM. >> IT WILL BE SOMETHING ADDED TO THE PAGE AND WE WILL MAKE SURE IT IS ADDED TO THE WEBSITE. I DON'T WANT TO ADVERTISE SOMETHING NOT APPROVED YET. IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN IN TALKS WITH, MY LIAISON HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE NONPROFIT SENT SOME OF THE BUSINESSES WE HAVE BEEN LETTING THEM KNOW THIS IS A SERVICE COMING. WE WILL PROBABLY HOLD, SHE WILL MEET TO TALK ABOUT CLASSES.

WE WANT TO HOLD AN INTRODUCTORY AND INVITE CHRISTINE SO HE CAN LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT THEY

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OFFER TO THE BUSINESSES HERE AND THE NONPROFITS AS WELL. >> AS FAR AS THE COST TO THE

CUSTOMER? >> IT DOES NOT COST THEM ANYTHING TO MEET WITH CHRIS.

>> I SEE IF THEY WILL DO A WEBSITE, SOMEONE HAS TO PAY FOR THAT.

>> THEY DID NOT DO A WEBSITE THEY JUST CONNECTED US WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO DID THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER WE USED THIS FUNDING TO MATCH OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM

THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION. >> OKAY.

>> WHEN WE MOVED TO COLLEGE, THEY WILL HAVE AN OPEN OFFICE AND OFFICE SPACE.

>> THIS IS IN ADDITION TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS ALSO GARDENING WHERE YOU GO OUT AND GROW THE SMALLER COMPANIES AND THIS IS A VALUABLE SERVICE.

THEY ALSO RUN SEMINARS AND WEBINARS FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN STARTING THEIR BUSINESS. THAT IS INVALUABLE. I WISH I HAD THAT SERVICE WHEN I HAD THAT SERVICE. I THINK, IT IS WORTHWHILE TO CONTINUE AND CONSIDERING WE ARE

USING OUR FUNDS TO DO THAT. >> ONE EXAMPLE THEY GIVE YOU IS, WHEN YOU START A BUSINESS, EVERYONE YOU TALK TO ONCE A PART OF YOUR BUSINESS. AND THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING A SHARE OF OUR BUSINESS OR TECHNOLOGY OR MAKING MONEY OFF OF US.

WHEN SOMEONE DISCUSSES ANGEL FUNDING AND THE PROS AND CONS OF VENTURE CAPITAL FUNDING AND MAKING SURE YOU ARE PLANNING TO LEAVE YOUR BUSINESS OR SELL YOUR BUSINESS OR WHAT SHOULD YOU RENT OR BUY SPACE FOR. THAT IS WHAT THEY PROVIDE WITHOUT A VESTED INTEREST.

THEY ARE LIKE ADVISORY, COACH RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR BUT YOU GET THAT EXPERT ADVICE. THAT IS THE BEST WAY I CAN PUT IT.

>> FROM THE IDF PHASE, STARTUP, GROWING, BUYING AND SELLING. AND NONPROFITS.

ALL STAGES OF THE BUSINESS LIFECYCLE. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?

I WILL TAKE A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0.

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT BRINGS US TO THE 5:00 P.M. TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT.

>> TAKE.

[13.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Northeast Florida Scottish Highland Games and Festival Ordinance and Permit]

FRONT IN A FEW MOMENTS. >> ITEM 13. THIS IS THE SCOTTISH HIGHLAND

GAMES AND FESTIVAL ORDINANCE AND PERMIT. >> THIS IS A TWO-PART ITEM.

IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST, IN CONNECTION WITH THE ALCOHOL ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE AT THE FAIRGROUND. EACH YEAR FOR THE SCOTTISH GAMES WE HAVE PROVIDED AN ASSUMPTION TO ALLOW THEM TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF THE ALCOHOL ZONE SO THEY CAN ALLOW OTHERS THAT ARE NOT YET OF AGE BUT ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT.

AGAIN WE ARE ASKING FOR THE EXCEPTION ONE MORE TIME BUT THERE NEEDED TO BE A CHANGE IN CONNECTION WITH THE SENIOR CENTER TO REFLECT AS BEING URBAN JACKSONVILLE INC. AS OPPOSED TO THE PRIOR. THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR ATTORNEY? WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE SCOTTISH GAMES? MR. OTTO.

>> JAMES OTTO 2908 MIDDLEBURG, FLORIDA. HIGHWAY 21.

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THE FAIRGROUND IS DIFFERENT. I HAVEN'T SEEN HIM FOR YEARS. I GO BACK TO THE SAME THING TAKING THE VENUE AWAY FROM THE SMALL BUSINESS YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PROMOTING.

MAY BE USING IT FOR A NEW JAIL IS IT GOING TO BE MORE LIKE JACKSONVILLE OR SAINT AUGUSTINE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER, THE SHERIFF SAID SOMETHING ABOUT SELLING AND DOING SOMETHING ELSE DOWNTOWN. MAYBE PEOPLE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE VIDEO. I WOULD DEFINITELY BE AGAINST THIS.

IN MY OPINION YOU JUST TRYING TO MAKE MONEY. AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE THE STATE

TAX SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY ON ALL OF THIS STUFF. >> OKAY, WHERE ARE WE.

YES, SIR. >> I JUST WANTED TO ENLIGHTEN, NUMBER ONE, WE WERE THE ONLY GAMES IN NORTH FLORIDA, NORTH AMERICA THAT DIDN'T HAVE BEARDS SALES.

WE ARE A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION. THE MORE MONEY WE MAKE THE MORE WE CAN GIVE TO LOCAL CHARITIES. LASHER WHEN WE EXPANDED BECAUSE OF COVID-19 WE SOLD 38 KEGS, ABSOLUTELY NO ALCOHOL RELATED INCIDENTS AND WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE FATHER HEART MINISTRIES MONEY. THIS YEAR WE HAVE CHALLENGE ENTERPRISES AS OUR CHOSEN

CHARITY. >> WITH THIS, AND MR. OTTO IS RIGHT IT IS ABOUT MONEY, AND

WITH THE HELP,. >> MAYBE WE CAN DO IT FRIDAY NIGHT PRIOR TO THE GAME SPIRIT.

>> IT'S A WELL-RUN EVENT. >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

OPPOSE, SAME SIDE CARRIES 5-0. >> IN THE SECOND PORTION OF THE ITEM, THE SCOTTISH REQUIRES THEM

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AND SO ARE JUST SEEKING. >> MEETING PUBLIC HEARING ON? >> A MOTION AND A SECOND, FURTHER DISCUSSION? AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO REVISIT THIS.

>> THERE IS AN EVEN ORDINANCE COMMITTEE THAT IS MEETING AND WE ARE TAKING THIS INTO

CONSIDERATION. >> OKAY, GREAT. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE CARRIES 5-0.

WE WILL MOVE NUMBER 15 UP TO TH& NEXT LINE AND THEN WE CAN TAKE 14 SO 15 A RECOMMENDATION FOR

[15.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing to consider REZ 2021-14. (District 1, Comm. Cella) Planning Commission voted 5-2 to recommend approval. (D. Selig)]

>> I'M SORRY TO SURPRISE YOU. >> IN DISTRICT ONE THE APPLICATION IS TO REZONE EIGHT PARCELS. FROM THE CURRENT ZONING TO DB TWO.

ON THE LEFT TO HAVE THE OUTLINE OF THE PARCELS. THERE ARE EIGHT OF THEM ALTOGETHER. YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT. IN THIS ONE, THEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS A PURPLE BOUNDARY. SO GOING NORTH TO SOUTH THIS IS A SPLIT PARCEL. THIS IS BE A TWO THIS IS BACK IN DECEMBER THAT THEY WERE APPROVED. NOW THEY ARE FOR COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE.

THE ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.

ON JANUARY 4 THE COMMISSION, AND I HAVE TO CORRECT THIS THE STAFF SAID IT WAS 5-TO BUT IT WAS IN REALITY 4-3. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS.

>> QUESTIONS? >> THERE WERE TWO ISSUES THAT THEY WERE PRESENTED WITH.

ONE WAS THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE A PARCELS. I THINK THE OWNERS HERE, BUT THE OTHER ONE WAS DRAINAGE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS DRAINAGE IS NOT AN ISSUE. THAT WILL BE DONE DURING THE ENGINEERING PHASE.

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>> IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS AND MR. CHAIRMAN THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TOO PRESENT. FIRST OF ALL THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HE'S BEEN THE CHAIRMAN FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. MANY OF YOU KNOW HIM. TRUST YOUR QUESTION, IT IS EIGHT PARCELS IN ITSELF AND THE CURRENT STATE. OUR JOB IS TO ASSEMBLE THEM SO IT CAN BE REDEVELOPED. WE HAVE MULTIPLE ZONINGS AND THE MAJORITY WERE HOMESTEAD THAT WORK GETTING THE BENEFIT OF THE TEXT DEDUCTION. AS OUR DUTY AND MISSION TO FACILITATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BEING CHALLENGED TO COME UP WITH A PROJECT TO HAVE A SITE READY WE TARGETED COLLEGE DRIVE WHICH HAPPENED TO BE WHAT THE INITIATIVE HAPPENED TO KICKOFF SHORTLY THEREAFTER. ALL STARS ARE ALIGNED. THIS CREATES A FOUR-POINT 7-ACRE PIECE THAT WE HAVE. IF YOU GO BY THERE WE HAVE SPENT $8,000 ON CLEARING THE PARCELS AND NOW THAT IS COMPLETELY VACANT AND WE WILL BE IN THE MARKET TO PUT IT UP FOR SALE IN

THE FUTURE FOR DEVELOPERS TO DO WHAT IS BEST. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS COMMIE IT LOOKS GOOD. IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS BECOMING SITE READY.

AND DURING THE MEETING, THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVED BY PURPLE. SEEMS THAT IS THE WAY THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY. I GUESS WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN HE GETS APPEAR.

IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY, WHAT IS THE ACCESS ROAD FACE THE. >> WERE ASKING FOR REZONING.

COUPLE HAS THEIR OWN PRIVATE DRIVE. >> DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BEFORE YOU COMBINE THIS STUFF. AND THE COMMENT WAS MADE, IT WILL LOOK LIKE A BIG STRIP MALL THE END OF THE DAY. THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN DOING. HE WAS BASING IT UPON HIS OPINION.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THIS IS ASSEMBLED TO SELL IT AS ONE. WHEN YOU LOOK, THERE IS NO OFFSIDE DRAINAGE. SO WHOEVER HAS TO DEVELOP THIS. YOU WILL DEDICAE UP TO AN ACRE

FOR ATTENTION. MAYBE THREE FEWER LUCKY. >> OKAY THAT IS ALL I HAVE.

>> WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE A DEAN SOLANO.

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>> DEAN SOLANO 1730 BALBOA LANE. I APOLOGIZE GOING OVER PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE LAST MEETING.

THE PARCEL IN QUESTION, I AM NOT HERE TO OBJECT, THE PARCEL IN QUESTION, SOUTHEAST CORNER JUST SOUTH. UNDERSTANDING RETENTION, WATER DRAINAGE AND ALL OF THAT.

I WAS ASSUMING, 25 YEARS AGO WHEN I MOVED ON THE PROPERTY, THAT WOULD BECOME RESIDENTIAL, AS YOU RECEIVED TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION EVENTUALLY IT WILL GO COMMERCIAL AS WELL. THAT IS FINE WITH ME. THE BALBOA LANE IS OWNED BY THE CHURCH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND GO WEST, ALSO AN EASEMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHURCH PUT ANYTHING IN WRITING. THE COMMISSIONER WAS VERY HELPFUL BACK IN THE DAY. ALSO ESTABLISHING THIS WOULD NOT BE ESTABLISHED AND WHAT CUTS THROUGH IS COUNTY MAINTAINED. USE BALBOA AND GET THROUGH THE AREA.

BALBOA LANE, BELONGS TO THE CHURCH, AND THAT IS OUR EGRESS. THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, IF IT ENDS UP GOING COMMERCIAL, THAT LEAVES MYSELF AND ANOTHER RESIDENT.

IF THE CHURCH USES THAT WERE RE- UTILIZES IT, IT FORCES ME TO USE THE EASEMENT THROUGH PACE.

PROTECTING OFFERS. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING?

MR. OTTO. >> JAMES OTTO MIDDLEBURG, FLORIDA.

WHEN YOU SAY LAKE KACZMAREK,. >> REMOVE THAT. >> YOU MOVE THE LAKE KACZMAREK?

>> ONE ITEM 15. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T A. IF WE COULD GET A LARGER SCALE MAP WITH A PRINT OUT, I WAS

TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. >> WHY DON'T YOU COME BACK AND

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14. >> I WAS PREPARED TO DO EITHER WAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LAKE AS VERY.

OKAY, SO THIS IS OFF OF 220. SO MUCH WE HAVE GOING ON AND WE ARE POSSIBLY TALKING ABOUT BEFORE YOU GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE SO, WHEN WE ARE DEVELOPING THIS STUFF WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LINING AND THE SIDEWALKS, EVERY DISTRICT, THE LITTLE GRL GOT HIT GOING TO SCHOOL. IT GOES ON AND ON. IS THIS ONE OF THE SPOTS WITH

THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. >> KIND OF LIKE THE CHURCH STUCK START.

>>YEAH, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE ARE STANDING UP FOR OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND HOW THEY CAN MOVE NEXT TO A BAR BUT THE BAR CAN'T MOVE NEXT TO THE CHURCH.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS MESS. WE HAVE THREE NEW MEMBERS, ONE WAS BLESSED TO BEING ON THE SCHOOL BOARD. I WILL LET IT GO. BUT WILL THERE BE CHICKENS

THERE, NO CHICKENS. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC

COMMENT. >> BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> OKAY.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> I'LL TAKE A MOTION. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> I SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD IF WE CAN'T DO THAT WE HAVE TO GO ON HIS WORD AND WE WILL TAKE THAT FOR NOW. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

AYE. OPPOSED SAME IT CARRIES 5-0. >> OUR STAFF WORKS VERY HARD.

WHEN THEY COME WITH THESE DEVELOPMENTS. I TRUST THAT STAFF WILL ENSURE

THAT IT WILL NOT BE DIVIDED UP. >> IF THEY PUT IT UP FOR SALE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US

WITH A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. >> AND AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

I'M SURE HE WILL BE GOOD TO GO. >> IT IS NOT FLY-BY-NIGHT. >> OKAY.

[14.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - First Public Hearing to consider transmittal of CPA 2021-18. (District 5, Comm. Burke) Planning Commission voted 5-2 to recommend approval.(M. Brown)]

NEXT IS 14. >> THIS IS THE ONE WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR.

LAKE AS VERY. >> PLANNING AND ZONING DIVISION. THIS IS A HEARING FOR A COMP PLAN HEARING 2021 -- 18. THE APPLICANT THIS IS A LARGE-SCALE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT THIS IS FROM LAKE ASBERRY TO LAKE ASBERRY WORLD COMMUNITY.

THIS IS AN DISTRICT 5. COMMISSIONER BURKS DISTRICT. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

THERE ARE 117-ACRE PARCEL LOCATED IN THE MASTER PLAN AREA. THE PROPERTY WAS DECIMATED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THE MASTER PLAN IN 2006 AND WAS DESIGNATED BY THE PRIOR OWNER.

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MORE BACKGROUND. THIS WAS INSTITUTED BECAUSE OF A REDUCTION IN INTENSITY.

THE LAND USE CHANGE DOES NOT AUTHORIZE DEVELOPMENT. AND THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO UNDERGO A REZONING IN THE FUTURE, SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

THIS SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE. THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.

SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON BOTH SIDES.

HIGHER DENSITIES THEN TO THE WEST. >> IN COMPARISON TO THE CHANGE AND THE REQUEST CHANGE IN LAND USE, THE DENSITY RANGES FROM A MINIMUM OF ONE UNIT -- ONE UNIT PER ACRE TO A MAXIMUM OF THREE PER ACRE. THAT IS TODAY WITHOUT CHANGES.

ONE CAVEAT, IT REQUIRES CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER. THERE'S NO CENTRAL SEWER PRESENT TO THE SITE. THE PROPOSED LAND USE, HAS A BASE DENSITY OF ONE UNIT PER FIVE GROSS ACRES. HOWEVER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE UP TO TO ENRICH -- TWO UNITS PER ACRE, AFTER CENTRAL SEWER.

AND THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR PRESERVATION AND DEDICATION OF WETLANDS TO OBTAIN THE DENSITY UP TO TWO UNITS PER ACRE. ALSO UNDER THE LAKE ASBERRY RURAL COMMUNITY, IT DOES ALLOW DEVELOPMENT ON THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS WITH THE MAXIMUM DENSITY OF ONE UNIT PER TWO NET ACRES.

>> THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED IN THEIR APPLICATION AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WHICH IS REQUIRED FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. THAT INDICATED THERE'S AN ESTIMATED 4 ACRES OF WETLANDS SO WHEN THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS ARE REMOVED FROM ANY DENSITY

CALCULATION HERE. >> WITH THE FRENCH AS IT STANDS TODAY, IF THERE WERE WATER AND SEWAGE ONTO THE SITE, THERE WOULD BE UNITS ARRANGED BETWEEN 96 TO A MAXIMUM OF 288.

WITHOUT THE SEWER NOTHING CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT THIS DESIGNATION. >> UNDER THE PROPOSED LAKE ASBERRY RURAL COMMUNITY, THE 96 NET ACRES IF CENTRAL WATER AND SEWER PROVIDED YOU WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 192. IF IT IS DEVELOPED FOR MAN USE WITHOUT CENTRAL WATER, OR CENTRAL SEWAGE, YOU CAN GET THE MAXIMUM OF 2 ACRES WHICH WOULD RESULT IN 48 UNITS THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED. LOOKING AT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IMPACT.

CENTRAL WATER IS AVAILABLE. CAPACITY TO SERVE DEVELOPMENT THIS WOULD BE A REDUCTION THIS IS NOT AVAILABLE. SOLID WASTE IS AVAILABLE. TRAFFIC WOULD BE PROPORTIONATE

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TO THE COMMUNITY,. >> THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN INCLUDING THE MASTER PLAN. IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 5-TO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDS TRANSMITTAL AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A HEARING REQUESTING STATE REVIEWING AGENCIES TO OBTAIN THEIR COMMENTS BEFORE ANY ACTION IS TAKEN BY THE BOARD.

THIS WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU FOR AN APPROVAL OR DENIAL. WITH THAT DO YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PS LETTER TO.

THEY HAVEN'T REQUESTED A CHANGE IN ZONING. >> IT IS ALLOWED UNDER LAND USE.

>> IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED IN A PS2. >> THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR AID REQUESTS, IT STAYS REGARDLESS OF THIS CHANGE. THIS IS A LAND USE CHANGE.

>> THERE WILL BE A DECREASE BUT AN INCREASE IF THEY GET THE ZONING THEY WANT.

>> IF THERE IS A REQUEST FOR WOULD HAVE TO OBTAIN, A CHANGE IN ZONING.

RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T DO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UNDER THE ZONING.

REZONING CANNOT BE REQUESTED AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF THE MORATORIUM.

>> THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS? >> IF WE DON'T APPROVE THIS, AND

IT DOESN'T GO TO THE STATE TO GET REDONE WHAT HAPPENS? >> IF IT'S NOT TRANSMITTED, IT INTO HERE. LARGE-SCALE AMENDMENT NEEDS TO BE TRANSMITTED FOR REVIEW.

>> AND THEN, IF IT DOES GET PASSED, WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING BEFORE

ANYTHING CAN BE BUILT. >> IF YOU TRANSMIT IT TODAY, IT WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR

APPROVAL OR DENIAL. >> IT STAYS THAT WHAT IT IS TODAY.

AND THE DENSITIES ALLOWED UNDER THAT. >>

>> IF IT CHANGES OR STAYS THE SAME IT HAS TO BE REZONE. ANYTHING RESIDENTIAL WOULD HAVE

TO GET. >> DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT?

>> GOOD EVENING, SUSAN FRAZIER, PARK STREET AND JACKSONVILLE. BEFORE I START I WANT TO HAND OUT PETITIONS. THESE WERE HANDED OUT IN THE RECORD THEY WERE NOT PLACING

YOUR RECORD. >> I THINK MY SLIDES ARE WILL LOOK LIKE THE SLIDES.

WE ARE HERE TO SAY,. >> >> THIS MAP YOU HAVE SEEN IT.

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THE COUNTY PLACED IT ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN 1991. WHEN THE LAND USE CATEGORIES WERE ESTABLISHED. IT WAS BACK IN 1991 AND WHEN THE MASTER PLAN SHOWED UP IN 2006

THEY RETAINED IT ON ALL OF THE SURROUNDING PARCELS. >> THE ONES SURROUNDING US BUT

NOT TO THE WEST. >> THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD CHANGE THE CATEGORY.

YOU HEARD HIM SAY THAT WILL PERMIT 100 UNITS WITH CENTRAL SEWER AND PERMIT WITH ON-SITE SEPTIC. WITH THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT, IF YOU APPROVE IT, WHERE WE DEVELOP ON-SITE SEPTIC THERE IS A REDUCTION, WITH THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.

REGARDLESS OF WHICH METHOD OF SEWER SERVICE WE WOULD SEEK THERE WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN THE DENSITY AND REDUCTION IN THE TRAFFIC, AND THE SCHOOLS AND THE IMPACTS MEASURED BY THE COUNTY.

>> IN THE AREA, THIS SITE IS UNIQUE EVERYTHING IS BUILT UP AROUND IT.

THIS LAND USE IS THE MOST COMPATIBLE THE CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION WOULD ALLOW SUPER 300 DWELLING UNITS. IT WOULD BE A REPETITION OF WHAT YOU SEE ON THE EAST SIDE OF FAMILY. SO SUBDIVISION TO SEE, OR WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

WE ALSO CAN BE -- IF WE EXTEND SEWER WE CAN HAVE 192 DWELLING UNITS IF WE HAVE ON-SITE SEPTIC WE MUST RETAIN 40 INCHES OF THE SITE. CENTRAL WATER TO THE LOTS AND THE LAKES AREA. THIS IS THE STANDARD. AS OPPOSED TO THE 50-FOOT LOTS.

THIS IS THE RESULT AND SUBJECT TO THE STANDARDS OF THAT LAND USE CATEGORY.

I WANT TO DWELL BRIEFLY ON WHAT'S IN THE PACKET YOU HAVE INFORMATION I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AND PROVIDE SUPPORTING DISCUSSION. SO, WE HAVE A WETLAND PERFORMED THAT WAS TURNED IN AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.

WITH 4 ACRES OF WETLANDS CARE THERE WAS MATERIAL PROVIDED RELATED TO DAMS AND THE LAKE LOCKED THEM. AND THEY OWN THE DAMS IN THE AREA.

THERE WAS A HIGHLIGHT BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, IT HAS A HIGH HAZARD POTENTIAL.

AND SO, I PROVIDED TO YOU FROM THE GLOSSARY OF TERMS WHAT THAT ACTUALLY MEANS.

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ALL OF THESE DAMS WERE ALL BUILT IN THE MID 60S. THEY ARE ALL HIGH HAZARD IF THEY FAIL SOMEONE WILL GET HURT. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LETTER.

THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS THAT THEY THINK WILL BRING THIS INTO COMPLIANCE.

I HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES. IT IS A GOALIE. THEY DID SAFE THERE IS A JOURNEY THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE AN OUTLET. SO WE ARE SURE THEY HAVE MADE THE DEPARTMENT AWARE, THE WATER THAT IS CONTRIBUTED. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE DAM WE WILL HAVE LESS DEVELOPMENT BUT I HEAR A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT FEAR BUT I WANT TO SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE BETTER DAMS AND BETTER MAINTAINED DAMS IN THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WAS ALSO A STUDY SUBMITTED THE MASTER PLAN REPORT THIS WAS MENTIONED AFTER FIRST HEARING BUT WE DIDN'T SEE IT. THIS STUDY WAS PREPARED BY A SENIOR STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA 1982. THIS GENTLEMAN WAS AHEAD OF ME AND IT WAS A STUDENT PROJECT.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT HIS PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS. WHILE THIS STUDY IS WHAT IT IS

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CONVERSATION ABOUT SUITABILITY. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ECOLOGICAL ASSOCIATES I'VE BEEN IN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT FOR 20 YEARS. I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.

I HAVE ASSESSED ROUGHLY 20,000 ACRES DURING MY CAREER. MR. JONES REACH OUT TO ME, IN JULY TO DO AN INITIAL ASSESSMENT OF HIS PROPERTY. WE MADE PLANS AND ARRANGEMENTS ON WHAT HE HAD ON HIS SITE. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT CHOICE AND ANYONE INTERESTED IN DOING THIS WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE PURCHASING AND WHAT YOUR RIGHTS ARE.

OBVIOUSLY, THE GOVERNMENT HAS JURISDICTION OVER THE WETLANDS AND SURFACE WATERS AND I HELP PROPERTY OWNERS UNDERSTAND THE RESTRICTIONS. MR. JONES GAVE ME A TOUR OF THE SITE. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB MAINTAINING IT.

AND THEN HE REQUESTED THAT I DO AN ASSESSMENT AND IT WAS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED.

WE DID FIND 4 ACRES OF WETLAND HABITAT. THESE ARE WET MARK BED BUT IN THIS CASE, ROUGHLY 5-6 FEET. AS YOU GET CLOSER, THIS REACHES THE SURFACE AND THAT IS WHERE IT EXITS OVER TIME NEEDY ROADS INTO THIS CHANNEL THAT OCCURS IN THE SYSTEM.

I DID READ HIS SENIOR PROJECT AND IT WAS A NICE REPORT. IT DID MENTION SPRINGS I DID NOT OBSERVE ANY OF THAT ON THE PROPERTY. THERE WAS FRESHWATER WHERE IT EXITS. THAT IS VERY COMMON IN THIS AREA, IT IS DIFFICULT.

THIS IS TRICKY BECAUSE THIS EXTENDS VERY FAR. THE WETLANDS ARE ON FLATLAND SPIRIT OF THE SLOPE, IT IS 100 FEET UP THE HILL. IT IS OFTEN DIFFICULT TO DESCRIBE TO CLIENTS WHO WISH THE WETLANDS WERE AT THE BOTTOM AND NOT AT THE TOP.

BUT OF THE RESIDENCE YOU MAY HAVE SECTIONS OF YOUR YARD THAT ARE SQUISHY AND MAYBE THE GRASS GROWS BETTER, THAT IS LIKELY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A NATURAL SLOPE THAT OCCURS.

THAT IS WHAT WAS THERE PRIOR TO THE DAMS CONSTRUCTION. I DID REVIEW THE REPORT BUT I DID NOT -- THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT POINT OF THE SITE. THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER AREAS FOR THAT TO EMERGE. LET'S SEE. AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL.

THIS IS A VERY DEVELOPABLE PROPERTY. TYPICAL'S PLEA THEY ARE 50%.

THAT IS THE AVERAGE. FOR BETTER OR WORSE FISHES THERE ARE TORTOISES ON THE SITE.

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QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> THANK YOU. THIS IS CLOSER TO THE WENT VINES, ROUGHLY 100 FEET FROM THE RAVINES. I DID ONE UPWARDS BUT THERE'S NOTHING REALLY FOR ME TOO CHECK. AND YOU WON'T HAVE ALL WATER TABLE FOR THOSE SIDELINES.

TEN KAY READY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

FIRST UP WILL BE CAROL EISENBERG. >> GOOD EVENING I'M CAROL WEISER BERGER. I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY FOR 22 YEARS WHICH IS THE LONGEST TENURE I HAVE HAD AND I LOVE IT THERE. IT IS A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY, I SOMEWHAT FEEL TORN. I KNOW THAT MR. JONES HAS A NEED TO DO WHAT HE IS DOING AND I RESPECT THAT HE IS TRYING TO DO IT AS TO NOT CREATE A HUGE AMOUNT OF HOUSES JOINING US IN THE PUBLIC COMMUNITY. I DO SAY, THAT IS ETHICALLY IN MY MIND EXTREMELY GOOD.

I LIKE THAT WHAT HE HAS PRESENTED AND CARRIED THROUGH WITH AND RESEARCHED, DOES SUPPORT WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO AS FAR AS THE LAND, WATERS SOIL AND ANIMALS.

I HAVE TO SAY I SUPPORT WHERE HE WANTS TO BUILD THESE HOUSES. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. HAND JUST I'VE LIVED IN LAKE ASBERRY FOR 35 OR 40 YEARS.

I THINK HE DOES HAVE A RIGHT TO SELL HIS PROPERTY BUT NOT IN A MANNER THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT IS AGAINST ALL PRINCIPLES OF THE CLEAN WATER ACT. ALL OVER THE STATES COMMUNITIES ARE LIMITING SEPTIC TANKS. CLAY COUNTY JUST ELIMINATED 70. JACKSONVILLE REPLACING IT IN 35 NEIGHBORHOODS. INDIAN RIVER ILLUMINATING MORE THAN 3,000 OF THEM TO THE TUNE OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO REVERSE THE MONEY THEY SPENT TO ALLOW MORE IN THE DEVELOPMENT. YESTERDAY THEY CONTAINED AN ARTICLE WITH THE ALGAE PROBLEM.

THE ALGAE IS KILLING THE PRECIOUS AMENITIES. YOU KNOW CLAY COUNTY HAS

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THE PROBLEM IS STATED THAT THE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS NOT ENFORCING THE LAWBREAKERS.

THE STATUES ARE IN THEIR PLAN BUT WHY ARE NOT -- WHY ARE THEY NOT BE ENFORCED.

LAKE ASBERRY HAD ITS FIRST -- WHERE SHE APPEARED THERE WERE MONTHS WE COULD NOT USE THE LAKEFRONT BECAUSE OF THE ALGAE. THAT IS DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE RUNOFF.

ALL OF THE HOMES BEING BUILT. IT WAS GREATLY IMPACTING OUR LIFE WE WERE BEING USED AS A RETENTION POND. IF MORE HOMES ARE DEVELOPED IT WILL HAPPEN MORE.

IT WILL COME THROUGH AND WE WILL GET IT FROM BOTH WAYS. AND THEN, I WILL HAVE TO STOP AND SAY I AM A MOTHER OF A PROFESSOR AND SHE WRITES PAPERS. THERE IS ONE PAPER, I WON'T GIVE YOU THE DETAILS BUT IT HAS BEEN PICKED UP BY THE TAMPA TRIBUNE. IT HAS MADE MAJOR CHANGES IN WHAT HAS HAPPENING -- HAPPEN. STUDENTS HELP TO WRITE THAT PAPER.

THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA PAPERS ARE NOT PUBLISHED BUT THE PROFESSORS CANNOT STAND BEHIND THEIR NAME IS ON THAT PAPER. I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY WHEN I SEE IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> PERFECT TIMING. >> OKAY,.

>> BECKY. I DO REALIZE THIS IS A LAND USE CHANGE.

BUT THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A LARGE SCALE AMENDMENT FOR THE COMPREHENSION PLAN IN ORDER TO MAKE A CHANGE, DATA AND ANALYSIS MUST BE PROVIDED AT THE TIME OF THE REQUEST SUCH AS THE DAMP STUDY WHICH IS UNIQUE TO THE REQUEST. SURVEY SHOWING THE CONSERVATION AREAS WITHIN THE PROJECT LINES AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES IN REFERENCE TO IMPACTS OF EROSION OF THE WATERWAYS AND CAN HAVE MINUTES THAT WILL DRAIN AND COLLAPSE THE WATERWAYS.

A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A LONG TIME RANGE PLAN THAT PREPARES PEOPLE AND IT DEPENDS ON -- IT IS LIKE A COMMUNITY COMMITMENT TO SAY THIS IS THE PLAN. PEOPLE ARE MAKING LIFE DECISINS ON HOW THEY WILL LIVE AND HOW THEY WILL INVEST THEIR MONEY. ANYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO REQUEST A LAND CHANGE, BUT THE QUESTION IS, WHY SHOULD YOU APPROVE IT. PLANNING AND ZONING WANTED TO SEE MORE STUDIES DONE. THE DAM IS CONSIDERED FAIR, HOWEVER UNDER HAZARDOUS IT IS CONSIDERED HIGH WHICH IS UNIQUE TO THIS PROJECT. THAT MEANS A POTENTIAL LOSS OF LIFE COULD OCCUR. THE CONSULTANT POSTED THE ROADS PUBLIC AND EVERYONE COULD DRIVE ON THEM. SUSAN FRASER IS CORRECT THE ROADS IN LAKE ASBERRY ARE PUBLIC BUT THE DAMS ARE NOT. THEY ARE OWNED BY THE RESIDENTS OF LAKE ASBERRY WHICH IS UNIQUE TO THIS REQUEST BUKE AT THIS TIME THEY ARE IN DIRE NEED OF REPAIR.

THE CHAIR FOR PLANNING AND ZONING SAID THE LAND USE CHANGE REQUEST MUST FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS BUT NOT IN A NEGATIVE WAY.

DID YOU KNOW TEN HOUSES DOWN, SAINT JOHNS WATER RIVER MANAGEMENT OWNS 1,000 ACRES OF LAND RIGHT OFF OF LAKE ASBERRY DRIVE. ACROSS FROM WINCHESTER DRIVE ON NORTH CREEK BACONE ANOTHER 500 ACRES OF LAND. BOTH ROADS EXIST TODAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. TEAM EFFORT ABOUT THIS AND OUR MASTER PLAN HAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE ACRES OF CONSERVATION LAND. THE RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY ALL BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY KNOWING THIS 100 ACRES WAS CONSERVATION LAND AND WILL BE ACCOMMODATE ONE LAND OWNER TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE EXISTING 850 RESIDENTS.

REMEMBER SUSAN FRAZIER AND DOUG JONES ORIGINALLY CAME TO YOU HAD REQUESTED SEPTIC TANKS AND WERE DENIED. THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET HIGHER THAN LORD LAKE.

WHERE ARE THE DEVELOPMENTAL STUDIES ON EROSION THAT COULD AFFECT THE LORD LAKE AFFECTING

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THANK YOU. >> CAN KIEFER. >> THEN OF NEXT WILL BE BRIAN L.

>> HELLO MY NAME IS KEITH I HOPE YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE SPRING STUDY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU. PLEASE LOOK ON PAGE THREE UNDER GEOLOGY GROUND WATER. MS. FRAZIER NEGLECTED TO REVEAL THEY HAVE SEVERAL SPRINGS THAT FLOW UPWARDS FROM ONE OF THE THREE. AND DISRUPTED THROUGH DEVELOPMENT THIS COULD CAUSE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE TO THE OTHER EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY.

ANY CONTAMINATION OF GROUNDWATER INCLUDING SEPTIC TANKS, STORMWATER RUNOFF, EROSION, OIL, GASES, POLLUTION OR SILT COULD CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGES TO LAKE LARK WHICH GOES TO LAKE ASBERRY AND INTO BLACK CREEK. ACCORDING TO OUR GEOLOGY STUDY MORE THAN HALF OF THE LAKE HAS A SEVERE RESTRICTION FOR BUILDING AND FOR SEPTIC TANKS. ALSO ACCORDING TO THE STUDY, THIS COULD CAUSE FUTURE PROBLEMS AS WELL AS ENDANGERING THE WATER SOURCE.

>> HOLD ON ONE SECOND PERIOD THE MOST IMPORTANT PAGE OF THIS GEOLOGICAL STUDY IS ON PAGE EIGHT WORD REVEALS 71 ACRES HAVE SOILS THAT ARE SEVERELY RESTRICTED FOR DEVELOPMENT OR SEWER TANKS. LEAVING THE REST OF THE PROPERTY WITH SEVERE EROSION.

PLEASE REVIEW THE STAFF REPORT ON PAGE NINE. THERE IS A MAP THAT LISTS 15 SOIL TYPES. ONLY SEVEN OF THESE ARE WITHIN THE MAPPED SITE BOUNDARIES.

ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT FLORIDA, BUT THE UNITED STATES IT SAYS THAT THESE SEVEN SOILS ARE POOR DRAINAGE. THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW SEPTIC TANKS TO PROPERLY PERCOLATE. WITH THE SEVEN SOILS, HAVING POOR PERCOLATION AND THE SPRINGS AND SAND BOILS COMING UP, WHERE WILL THE SEPTIC TANK RUNOFF GO? STRAIGHT INTO THE LAKE.

THIS IS THE REASON MR. RYAN SET& ASIDE THESE 100 ACRES AND HE NAMED IT LAKE ASBERRY RETREAT CENTER. ALSO KNOWN AS LAKE LARK. I REQUEST THAT THIS, THAT YOU VOTE NO TONIGHT FOR THIS LAND USE CHANGE DUE TO THE ECOLOGICAL RAMIFICATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD CAUSE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU. BRIAN. >> BRIAN LOCKARD TOUR, I HAVE BEEN THERE ABOUT SIX YEARS, SOME OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS. I HOPE TO BE AROUND 40 MORE YEARS AS LONG AS SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN. I LOVE THE LEGS, BUT JUST AS IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING WE HAD A FEW WEEKS AGO, I HAVE MOVED AROUND A LITTLE BIT, CHANGE HAPPENS, PROGRESS GOALS AND IT IS ALMOST INEVITABLE. I JUST THINK THIS IS OUR CHANCE AS A COMMUNITY EVEN THOUGH NO ONE WANTS ANYTHING TO HAPPEN, SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN AND THIS IS OUR CHANCE, 48 ACRES WITH SEWAGE OR SEPTIC, OR 300 LOTS WITH SEWER, I THINK I WOULD RATHER HAVE 48 HOMES AND SEPTIC TANKS MAN 300 HOMES WITH SEWER, BUT NINE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. I JUST HOPE YOU VOTE YES FOR THIS.

THANK YOU. >> MARK V. AND ON DECK IS JANET.

>> THANK YOU MARK 242 BUSH COURT. I LIVE ON LAKE ASBERRY MY FAMILY

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THERE IS THE CONDITION OF THE SOILS THAT IS IN QUESTION. YOU HAVE GOOD INFORMATION ON THE SITE THAT SAYS IT IS NOT A GOOD QUALITY TO PUT SEPTIC TANKS IN. THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK NOTE OF THE FACT THEY WERE ALLOWING SEPTIC TANKS BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AT THE PREVIOUS VISIT TO THE COMMISSION, THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THEY CITED FOR NOT APPROVING THE PLAN.

THE POINT IS, WHETHER IT IS SEPTIC TANKS OR PUTTING IN YOUR OWN CENTRALIZED WASTEWATER TREATMENT, NEITHER ONE OF THOSE ARE HEADING IN THE DIRECTION THE REST OF THE COUNTRY IS GOING AND DEFINITELY FLORIDA. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF THE STATE WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF A LARGE COMMUNITY SEPTIC SYSTEM AT THIS POINT AND TIME.

2030 IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER. THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SPENDING MONEY TO REMOVE THE SEPTIC TANKS FROM OTHER AREAS, YOU ARE PUTTING THE BURDEN ON FUTURE TAXES TO REPLACE THE SEPTIC TANKS BUT YOU ARE APPROVING NOW OR MAY APPROVE, ON THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE THE COUNTY WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT. I THINK SUSAN FRAZIER SAID, WE HAVE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THOUGHT COUNTY GOING INTO THE LAKES AND THE WATER RUNOFF.

THERE IS ALSO, SEMINAL VILLAGE AND THE RUNOFF COMES INTO THE LAKE AND IMPACTING THE QUALITY OF THE WATER AND PUT OUR DANCE AT RISK. IN TERMS OF THE DAM MAINTENANCE, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE MAINTENANCE RECORDS. SUSAN FRAZIER STEPPED OUT OF HER EXPERTISE WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT IS AN EXPERT OPINION. THE CONDITION OF THE DAM BEING ALL OF THE OTHER DAMS ARE NOT GOOD, DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. HERS IS A HIGH HAZARD. SO, I CAN'T SEE HOW YOU CAN APPROVE THIS STRICTLY ON THAT COMPONENT. ALSO I DID NOT HEAR IF BALD EAGLES ARE IN THE AREA. THE OTHER THING WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS RETICENT TO NOT APPROVE IT BECAUSE OF SOME PERCEIVED THREAT IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THIS WE WILL BUILD MORE HOUSES. YOU CAN'T USE THAT AS A BASIS. YOU HAVE TO USE FACTS IN FRONT

OF YOU NOT DOWN THE ROAD. THANK YOU. >> OKAY, JANET AND ON DECK IS

MARISE. >> GOOD EVENING JANET W. 242 BUSH COURT.

WE HAVE BEEN THERE FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS. TODAY WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT A CHANGE. JUST A LITTLE CHANGE BUT THAT LITTLE CHANGE IS GOING TO LEAD TO MORE CHANGES. WE ARE STARTING THE BALL ROLLING HERE TODAY AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO IMPRESS UPON YOU. THIS STARTS THE BALL.

THE CHAIN OF DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE HEARD DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF HOUSES.

WHEN YOU READ THE PROPOSAL THERE ARE A LOT OF ABOUT SPIRIT EVEN IT SAYS, AND I QUOTE, PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE GETTING IS THERE A WAY TO FIGURE THIS OUT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL.

I AND ALSO A TRUSTEE. I CAN TELL YOU UNEQUIVOCALLY THAT THEY WILL NOT COME IN AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO YOUR PROPERTY TO FIX IT.

THEY WILL NOT RECOMMEND A CONTRACTOR. YOU ARE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS,

YOU KNOW THIS, THINK IT THROUGH. >> WE HAVE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES GOING ON RIGHT NOW. I IMPLORE YOU ALL NOT TO CONTRIBUTE TO MORE AT THIS JUNCTURE. I AM NOT SAYING NOT TO CONSIDER IT DOWN THE ROAD BUT RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING. WE HAVE THE DAM AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT.

I THINK DR. BURKE HAS WALKED FOR. AND I HAVE WALKED IT WITH WATER MANAGEMENT. THE DAM HAS MOVED. IF YOU DRIVE THE DAM, IT IS

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IF YOU WANT TO, AS A TRUSTEE WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TOUR ALL OF YOU TOGETHER OR SEPARATELY, AND SHOW YOU EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

TIME. >> I MUST HAVE THE FIRST NAME WRONG.

>> YOU DID. >> I LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY.

I HAVE ATTENDED TWO MEETINGS, THE FIRST ONE THE TEAM EFFORT PROPOSED 74 HOUSES ON THE LOT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENIED THE REPORT. ON JANUARY 4, IT INVOLVES THE DESIGNATION CHANGE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. BOTH MEETINGS THEY STATED THERE WERE NO ABOVEGROUND SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN LAKE ASBERRY. MY HUSBAND AND I WALK ALMOST EVERY DAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF WE HAVE SEEN ANY ABOVEGROUND. ON ONE WALK WE COUNTED THEM.

ON WESLEY ROAD THERE ARE 13. ON AUTHOR MORT DRIVE THERE ARE SEVERAL MORE.

IN FACT AT 558 WE SAW ONE BEING INSTALLED LAST WEEK IN FRONT OF A NEW HOUSE WHICH WAS NOT SURPRISING, BECAUSE THE OTHERS HAVE ABOVEGROUND SEPTIC FIELDS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU ARE BEING MISINFORMED. REGARDING THE CHANGE REQUEST I AM PUZZLED AND CONFUSED.

WHY ARE THEY ALLOWING LESS DENSITY THAN THE LAND-USE THAT ALREADY EXIST.

THERE MUST BE SOME REASON OTHER THAN DENSITY. PERHAPS TEAM EFFORT THINKS THIS WILL APPEASE THE RESIDENTS. THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY DONATED TO THE METHODIST CHURCH TO BE USED AS A RETREAT. THE PROMISE OF NO DEVELOPMENT HAS BECOME A PROMISE OF MINIMAL

DEVELOPMENT. >> TEAM EFFORT ALSO STATED THE DAM WAS IN FAIR CONDITION REQUIRED IN A LONG REQUIREMENT SHOWING $57,000. IF THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED THE CARS, TWICE PER DAY PLUS DESTRUCTION VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPMENT CROSSING THIS STAMP WILL CAUSE IT TO DETERIORATE QUICKLY AND THOSE OF US LIKE ME WHO LIVE ON THE LAKE ASBERRY SIDE OF THE DAM ARE VERY CONCERNED. ANY DEVELOPMENT WILL DESTROY WILDLIFE HABITAT AND CAUSE MASSIVE STORM RUNOFF BECAUSE OF THE CONCRETE AND ROOFTOPS.

BRINGING MORE POLLUTANTS WHICH DRAIN INTO LAKE ASBERRY INTO BLACK CREEK WHICH FLOWS INTO THE RIVER. I KNOW YOU ARE FOCUSED ON ONE ISSUE.

>> THANK YOU. MARK, OR MICK. I CANNOT READ THE LAST LETTER.

>> MY NAME IS MARK MCMILLAN I LIVE AT 602 LAKE ASBURY DRIVE. HAVE LIVED THERE SINCE I WAS 5-YEARS-OLD IN 1975. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME SOME PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER.

I USED TO GO TO THE CAMP THERE AND PLAY WITH KIDS. I ATTENDED ACTUAL CHURCH

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>> HELLO I AM LYNN I AM AND ON ON THE NORTH LAKE. WE ARE ONE OF THE LAKES, THAT WE ARE TURNING INTO A RETENTION POND. WE HAVE TO GET OUT EVERYONE STUFF. YOU KNOW THE LAND-USE ISSUE IS SO THEY CAN REZONE AND DEVELOP.

RIGHT NOW I HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE WELL-VERSED AND NO A LOT MORE ABOUT THE DAM.

ALL I KNOW IS I WILL NOW PAY AN EXTRA $2,000 IN TAXES INDEFINITELY, FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE IF I STAY IN THAT HOUSE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING VERY HARD TO FIX THE DAMS, MAKE THEM SAFE, SO THE STATE WON'T TRY TO SHUT US DOWN. I DO KNOW I AM PRIVILEGED TO LIVE ON A SMALL, PRIVATE LAKE AND I AM WILLING TO PUT MY MONEY WHERE MY MOUTH IS.

WE CAN'T GET MONEY FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATE BUT YOU CANNOT DO THAT.

UNTIL WE CAN GET CONTROL OVER THE DAMS. WE ARE NOT THE ONLY TAXPAYERS THAT RELY ON THAT. EVERYONE NEEDS THE DAMS. IF YOU COULD HELP US OUT, I

WOULD APPRECIATE IT. >> JIM, AND THEN WE WILL DO THE DUKE'S NEXT.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONERS I'M THE PRESIDENT FOR THE FLORIDA LAND TRUST.

A 43 WEST MONROE STREET. I, I WORKED MISSION AS YOU MAY NOTICE TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE BY REPLACING NATURAL RESOURCES. WE DO NOT TAKE POSITIONS ON DEVELOPMENT. YOU CAN'T RELAX I WILL NOT ASK YOU TO DO ONE THING OR THE OTHER. BUT WE DO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC. WE DID SO IN THE CASE OF FISHER ISLAND. WE LISTEN TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING MISSIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, PARTICULARLY THE ONE ON JANUARY 4. NONETHELESS, I DID WATCH IT.

OUR NAME CAME UP QUITE OFTEN. BUT NONETHELESS, THIS IS A PROJECT, WE MAY HAVE INTEREST

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FOR FINDING A PARTNER TO BUY 80% OR 80 ACRES, SO WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW OPTIONS.

FOR US IT IS DUE DILIGENCE. THIS DETERMINES THE PRICE. WE AGREED, THEY DID TALK TO MY STAFF PRIOR TO OUR CONVERSATIONS AND HE DID TELL ME THAT HE MET WITH HIS BOARD AND THEY WERE NOT GOING TO PROCEED IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH US AND THEY WANTED TO GO TO THE DEVELOPMENT ROUTE.

SO, AS A RESULT, WE ONLY DEAL WITH WILLING SELLERS AND DONORS BY DEFINITION.

AS A RESULT, WE FACT THE WAY AND HAVE DONE NOTHING WITH THE PROPERTY.

IT IS WHERE THEY ARE PROTECTING PROPERTIES AND WE ARE CONCERNED WITH LAKE ASBERRY AND BLACK CREEK IN PARTICULAR. WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO REGARDLESS OF YOUR DECISION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I WOULD BE CLARK TO ANSWER THEM.

I DO WANT TO CLARIFY ONE POINT. THEY HAVE NOT OFFERED ANY MONEY FOR THIS PROPERTY.

WE CAN'T UNTIL WE DO AN APPRAISAL. IF THERE IS A SUCH THING AS THE FLORIDA LAND TRUST. AND IT IS DESIGNED TO HIDE PROPERTY FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.

THE NORTH BORDERLAND TRUSSES IN THE CONSERVATION BUILDING AND THAT IS ALL WE DO.

INCORPORATED YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SERVICE. >> NEXT, I TOOK THE PROVISION LET SOMEONE WRITE AN ESSAY. CHANGE THIS IS A STATEMENT FROM DEBBIE DUKES.

SHE JUST BEGAN HER STATEMENT BY QUOTING EPHESIANS 4-1 THROUGH THREE.

THIS SHOWS THE LAND IS NO GOOD FOR BUILDING FAIR THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO DO.

HE HAS WORKED HARD TO SPREAD THE TRUTH. THE COMMUNITY CAN HELP THEM FIND ANOTHER CHURCH THAT WILL I WILL BE HAPPY TO CALL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.

>> YOU CAN DO THE MATH. ANOTHER KEY POINT, THE FIRST IS THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE DAM.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE RECORDS SHOWING MAINTENANCE DONE. >> AND I AM ALSO ON THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE BOARD. I DO HAVE A GOOD HISTORY AND LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND ENGINEERING.

HAVE NOT INC. LICENSED PERSON. >> THERE IS NO SIDEWALKS ON THE DAM DUE TO THE DESIGN IF IT DOES

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TIME. >> MY NAME IS Z. I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THIS. I LIVE ON LAKE ASBURY DRIVE, APPROXIMATELY 1,000 FEET OF MY PROPERTY BORDERS THE PROPERTY. THAT HELPS A LOT AS FAR AS MY PROPERTY.

IF ALL OF THIS WAS DONE THIS COMES THROUGH WITH THIS MAN I LIKE TO LET THE.

>> SCHISM AND I ARE HERE, WE NEED TO SPEAK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW FAR WE ARE.

THIS IS WHAT THEY CAN BUILD THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. THE HIGHEST IMPACT FEE YOU ARE GRANDFATHERED IN IF YOU ARE A LONG-TERM RESIDENT. I THOUGHT IT WOULD SAY APART.

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>> YOU TALK ABOUT LAND-USE CHANGE. >> SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT LOSS OF LIFE IF THE DAMS GO. MIND WOULD BE ONE OF THE PERSON I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD WATCH OUT AFTER ME. WE NEED HELP WE NEED YOU TO LOOK OUT FOR LAKE ASBERRY NOT AN

INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I HOPE YOU CAN SWIM.

>> GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION. ADDS TO THE DAM, WE ARE NOT EXPERTS EITHER. WE RELY ON TRACY WOODS WHO INSPECTED THE DAM AND INSPECTED ALL OF THE DAMS IN THE AREA WHO PREPARED THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SEE AND I PROVIDED TONIGHT.

THE SUMMARY OF THE REMEDIATION, IS IN THE PACKAGE THAT I GAVE YOU.

THESE COME FROM THE INSPECTOR. WE WOULD HOPE THAT SHE WOULD BE THE EXPERT.

ASKED FOR SEPTIC TANKS, THE SOILS ON THIS PROPERTY ARE THE SAME IN ALL OF LAKE ASBERRY.

THERE ARE 800 SEPTIC TANKS, AND THEY ARE ALL 30--YEARS-OLD. THE SEPTIC TANKS REPLACED NOW ARE FAILED. EACH OF THE LOTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DIVIDE THEIR LANDS.

ON EACH OF THOSE STATEMENT PLACE IN THE SEPTIC TANK. THE LOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY, HAS A LOT THAT WAS MADE LAST YEAR END THE SEPTIC TANK WAS MADE.

>> THE LAND USE MAPS. SO MY POINT IS, EACH AREA HAS A SEPTIC TANK THEY DIVIDE THEIR

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THEY ARE ALSO LOCATED APPEAL FINGER LAKES. THE ROOM, A FLAT SPOT FOR THE HOUSE. IT SPEAKS TO THE LAKE, THOSE AREN'T THE MOST DESIRABLE IN THE AREA. WE HAVE A PARCEL THAT WE CAN HAVE DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM THE LAKE. WE HAVE OPEN SPACE AND IT WOULD BE AROUND THE LAKE.

ANYTHING THAT IS THERE RELIES ON ANOTHER EXPERT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE SUITABLE SOILS

YOU DON'T GET A SEPTIC TANK. >> WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE NUMBER OF LOTS, THE MAXIMUM NUMBER IS IN THE LAND-USE. BUT WHEN THE INSPECTOR COMES OUT, EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY RELIES ON EXPERTISE AND EVERYONE TANK RELIES ON INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE TO PROTECT OUR LAKES. I WOULD SAY WE ARE A STEWARD OF THE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> TEN MR. JONES ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS? >> DID YOUR ORGANIZATION

ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. >> THAT IS THE MORTGAGE THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO PAY OFF AT THIS

TIME. >> IN TERMS OF WHAT MR. MCCARTHY SAID, YOU MEANT AND DISCUSSED

THEM BEING INVOLVED IN TRYING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY. >> WE SPOKE TO THEM AT THE REQUEST OF A RESIDENT. I THINK THE ONLY MISUNDERSTANDING WAS, I ASKED IF WE COULD WAIT UNTIL WE FINISH THE PROCESS, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE A YEAR INTO IT.

THEN I CONTACTED HIM. MY INTENTION WAS TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS. WOULD YOU GO THROUGH AND LET HIM DO HIS APPRAISAL AND FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT WAS WORTH AND THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION, IF YOU WANT TO GO THIS WAY, IF IT IS APPRAISED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY BUT ARE YOU TRYING -- IT SEEMS AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO DO THAT, IF YOUR ORGANIZATION OWNS THE LAND YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE DOING MORE THAN PAY OFF YOUR MORTGAGE.

YOUR TRYING TO CASH IN. BUT YOU HAVE HAD SEVERAL TIMES WHERE YOU SAID YOU ARE DOING THE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY BY GOING TO THE NUMBER OF HOME SPIRIT THE BEST THING TO DO WOULD BE LOOK AT THE LAND TRUST THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION IF THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION TO CONTINUE DOWN THE ROAD. IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN 80%, I WOULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE COUNTY LOOKING AT THAT 20% AND TURNING IT INTO A CAMP. TO ME, I HAVE A HANG UP ON SEPTIC TANKS. IN A SENSE THAT, WE ARE PAYING TAX DOLLARS TO TAKE THEM OUT.

EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE ONLY ADDING 48, WHY ARE WE ADDING MORE ON TOP OF THAT.

THOSE ARE MY OBSERVATIONS AND I WOULD BE GLAD TO HEAR YOUR OBSERVATIONS AS WELL.

>> WE SHOULD WAIT AND FINISH THE PROCESS. BUT IT IS TWOFOLD.

HOW CAN WE NOT MAXIMIZE, I MEAN, DO WELL WITH SELLING THE PROPERTY, HOW DO WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY. WE WANTED TO FINISH THE PROCESS

BUT I WOULD BE GLAD TO PURSUE THAT SIMULTANEOUSLY. >> I HAD THE SAME CONCERN I

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I UNDERSTAND PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. >> I DON'T WANT TO HURT YOU IN THIS TRANSACTION, BUT IF I CAN MAKE YOU WHOLE, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE US A BARGAIN.

I KNOW WHAT IS THERE, IF WE COULD PRESERVE THAT AS A PARK, THAT IS MY FIRST PRIORITY.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. I DON'T WANT TO HURT YOU IF WE DON'T HAVE TO.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE A WIN-WIN SITUATION WITH EVERYONE. QUITE HONESTLY IT GETS US OUT OF

OUT OF A BIND. THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. >> WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE PROPERTY THAT MOVES US FORWARD. WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO BALANCE THE TWO OF THEM.

I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.

>> THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING. YOU WILL TRANSMIT THIS TO THE STATE AND THEY WILL SPEND TIME DECIDING IF THEY HAVE COMMENTS. AND SO, I AM RETICENT TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS WOULD AND. IF WE COME BACK AND SAY WE HAVE SPOKEN TO FLORIDA LAND TRUST AND THEIR OFFERING US $10 AND WE THINK IT IS WORTH MORE, WOULD YOU SET THAT ASIDE. I NEED REASSURANCE THAT THIS DOES NOT BECOME, WE WILL PUSH YOU OFF UNTIL YOU SELL TO THEM. THAT CAN'T BE THE OUTCOME EITHER.

BOTH LAND-USE IS A REDUCTION. >> ARE YOU TELLING US WHAT THE OUTCOME HAS TO BE?

THAT IS WHAT I AM HEARING. THAT IS THE WRONG THING TO DO. >> IF WE CONTINUE IT, IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU WILL DENY IT IN A MONTH BECAUSE I DON'T SELL TO FLORIDA LAND TRUST, I WILL TAKE A DENIAL TONIGHT. IF YOU ALLOW US TO TALK TO THEM, BUT ALLOW US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHOUT YOU IN THE ROOM SAYING THIS IS IT, THAT IS THE THREAT I HEAR.

I CAN'T COME TO ANY OTHER CONCLUSION. YOU'RE GIVING AWAY OTHER FACTORS

THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE LAND-USE CONSIDERATION. >> YOU HAVE MADE IT ABOUT MORE THAN LAND-USE FOUR MONTHS. WE HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENT SINCE APRIL.

I DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS AND I'M A METHODIST. I AM FROM THE SOUTH AND WE GO TO CAMP SOUTH. YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU AND MR. JONES, I THOUGHT YOU HAD AN ERROR AND HAVING SO MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS AND TALKING TO THE PUBLIC AND MUDDYING THE WATERS, AND PUSHING IT TO GATHER IN SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE ARE SERVING.

I SAID IN MY OFFICE WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST PUT A FOR-SALE SIGN OUT.

I HAVE WATCHED SEVERAL OF THESE THINGS, YOU DECIDED YOUR BUYER I ASKED YOU DID YOU HAVE A BUYER YOU SAID NO. BUT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY.

I HAVE A COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR SALE TODAY. THERE IS A FOR SALE SIGN AND IN THE LISTING THERE IS A PRICE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OUR PROPERTY SELL FOR.

I DO NOT DECIDE WHO BUYS A. A GUY TALKED ABOUT UP PET CREMATORIUM BUT I WANT MY BUSINESS NEXT TO THAT BUT I DON'T GET TO DECIDE MY NEIGHBOR. I DON'T GET TO DECIDE UNTIL I

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IT WAS NOT UNTIL LAST WEEK THAT I UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, AND LAND-USE, AS FAR AS THE OTHER STUFF, I HAVE AND I THINK THAT IS OUR ROLE AS

THE COMMISSION. >> WE WILL BRING YOU BACK THE RESULTS OF THE DISCUSSIONS.

THAT IS WHAT WE CAN OFFER YOU AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY

AND WE PUT BE HAPPY TO TALK TO FLORIDA LAND TRUST. >> LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE

BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. >> MAY PEOPLE -- SOME PEOPLE KNOW MAYBE YOU DON'T WHEN I AM EMOTIONAL I AM PASSIONATE. I WENT TO A CAMP LIKE THIS AS A CHILD.

AND I FOUND JESUS AT THAT CAMP. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

LAND-USE IS A POLICY CHANGE. IT WILL NOT BE SOLD TO A DEVELOPER WHO WILL CARRY DOWN.

WE ARE PLEASED THAT IS THE WAY IT TURNED OUT. THEY HAVE A REASON TO BE.

THEY ARE SCARED, THEY ARE UPSET. THERE ARE SO MANY UNKNOWNS. BUT EVEN IF WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THE DAMS THERE IS A LOT MORE CONCERNED. WE SUGGEST TAKE CARE ZACH MONEY.

AND OF COURSE I DID MY RESEARCH AND I THOUGHT THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND THE KIDS WHO GO THERE. HE SAID THEIR GOAL WAS TO SELL THE LAND.

THEY SOLD AT FAIR MARKET VALUE. WE HAD A TOWN HALL MEETING AND IT WAS PACKED WITH THE PEOPLE.

NO ONE COULD SAID. THEY WOULD COME TO YOU AND DONATE THEIR OWN MONEY TO SAVE THE PROPERTY. YOU HAD NO INTEREST. WE WENT OUTSIDE AFTER THE MEETING. IT WAS RIGHT THERE AND THEY HAVE COME TO YOU AND THEY TOLD YOU

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THE COUNTY, THE DIRECTOR OF TOURISM, THEY WERE JUMPING FOR JOY YOU KNOW, WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THIS WOULD BE HUGE. IF YOU WANT TO BE A GOOD STEWARD, WHY NOT LOOK INTO THAT.

YOU ARE SAYING NOW YOU WILL LOOK INTO IT BUT PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY APPROACHED YOU.

I JUST GOT WORD TODAY, THAT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER OFFERED YOU THE SAME.

BUT DISHONESTY, THERE'S DEFINITELY WEIRD THINGS HERE THAT ARE NOT ADDING UP.

THIS GOES DOWN TO LOWER LAKES BUT WHY SHOULD THESE PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT THIS.

WE HAVE TO BE THE ONES THAT SAY WE ARE AT FAULT. I PERSONALLY CAN'T.

THERE IS NO WAY TO DO THAT. 40-50 SIGNATURES THAT IS NICE. YOU WENT AROUND AND GOT SIGNATURES AND THAT WAS A GOOD THING TO DO. BUT WHEN YOU BOOK IT 287 HOMES INSTEAD OF 50, I WOULD SIGN IT RIGHT NOW. THAT IS NOT THE WAY TO OPERATE THIS. YOU WERE NOT HONEST. THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.

BUT DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE IT LIKE THIS. IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY EVEN FOR ST. JOHNS RIVER MAP, THEY CAN PARTNER TOGETHER WOULDN'T THAT BE THE BETTER WAY.

>> WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS. AND I WANT TO PROVE THIS.

>> I WANT TO RETRACT. >> TONIGHT WE ARE CONSIDERING LAND-USE.

I HEARD FROM RESIDENT AND I COMMEND YOU AND I WENT ON THE WEBSITE AND READ THE BIO.

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ADVANCE EFFORTS TO REDUCE NUTRIENTS IN FLORIDA'S WATERWAYS.

AND STRENGTHEN RESILIENCE FOR COASTAL COMMUNITIES. FOR ME, I UNDERSTAND THE LAND-USE WOULD ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IF WE EVER CHANGE THE ZONING AT A HIGHER LEVEL AND THE APPROPRIATION TO REMOVE THE SEPTIC TANKS. IN MY OPINION I THINK WE WILL HAVE 0 SEPTIC TANKS AND THAT IS HEADED THE RIGHT WAY. I SEE PROBLEMS WITH PROBLEMS WITH THE SEPTIC TANKS. I REALLY, AND I CAME IN HERE, TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD COORDINATE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT AND LOW AND BEHOLD IT IS AND THE WORK.

THAT IS CERTAINLY THE WAY TO INVESTIGATE BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER.

WHETHER WE TABLE THIS OR OR DENY IT OUTRIGHT, IS A DECISION WE ALL TO MAKE BUT I WILL NOT

APPROVE THIS. >> WE HAVE MADE A REQUEST TO WITH DRAW, ATTACHED PLEASE SIT

DOWN COMMISSIONER CELLA. >> IF THE APPLICANT WITHDRAWS THEY CAN AND YOU DO NOT VOTE ON IT. THEY WITHDRAW IT AND MOVE ON, NOTHING HAPPENS AND NOTHING

CHANGES. >> >> I WILL SAY THAT, WE WILL GET

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AN APPRAISAL, I WAS UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING I WILL SAY. >> IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY THAT'S TALK TO THE LAND TRUST. MAYBE WE WILL PURSUE THAT. I'M NOT A DEVELOPER.

WHAT I NOTICE, WE WENT INTO THE FIRST MEETING THINKING THEY WILL LOVE US FOR DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT WE'VE LEARNED OTHERWISE. BUT WE REALLY THOUGHT WE WERE FIGHTING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS THINGS BECOME CLEAR, IF THE THING.

>> IS THERE A FINANCIAL DEADLINE ON THIS. >> THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE DEADLINE. THERE'S NO WAY WE WILL BE HEALTHY IF WE DON'T SELL THE

PROPERTY. >> DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING OFFICIAL FOR THE WITHDRAWAL?

>> THANK YOU. >> WE >>> OKAY WE WILL START BACK WITH

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IS ABOUT. >> SO THIS COMES TO YOU AND INITIATED BECAUSE THERE WAS A

BILL THROUGH THE LEGISLATION LAST SUMMER. >> GENTLEMAN, CAN YOU CONTINUE

YOUR CONVERSATION OUTSIDE. >> THANK YOU. >> THE BILL TOOK EFFECT JANUARY 1 OF THIS YEAR THE EXPLANATION ALLOWS TO ADVERTISE IT OPENS UP THE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN UTILIZE IT TODAY. AN ORDINANCE, WE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME ADDRESSED PUBLIC NOTICE AND POSTING SIGNS ON PROPERTY. WE FELT SINCE WE HAD THE ARTICLE OPEN WE WOULD ADDRESS THAT AS WELL. AND WE DISCOVERED SOME ERRORS BUT WE NEED TO CLEAN IT UP. THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS. THERE WERE THREE SECTIONS IN THE

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REZONING SECTION. >> AS FAR AS THE SIDE THERE'S ONE IN THE REZONING AND THE

SIGNING REQUIREMENTS. >> WERE THEY TRYING TO SLIDE SOMETHING BY US.

AND STATUE UNTIL LAST JULY AND THE OPTION TO NOT PUBLISH IN A NEWSPAPER IN JACKSOVILLE IF WE

SO CHOOSE. >> TO AMPLIFY THIS ISSUE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED WHAT IS THE CIRCULATION OF CLAY TODAY IN CLAY COUNTY. I HAVE THE ANSWER.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY I LOOKED INTO THAT. >> VERSUS WEEKLY SUBSCRIBERS OF 9500. IT IS ALMOST THE SAME. WHO READS THE PUBLIC NOTICES.

>> DID I READ THE PUBLIC NOTICES. LISTEN, I AND IN THE GENERATION

WHERE NO ONE READS THE PAPER. THE COUNTY THAT HAS 228,000. >> OF MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? PUBLIC HEARING? >> PLEASE STAY ON TOP.

>> I BELIEVE I WAS RIGHT EARLIER. BUT JAMES AUTOHAUS 908, THIS IS FINE FOR THE REASON I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TOO FAR OFF, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD REZONE AND ALL I HAVE BEEN HEARING YOU TALK ABOUT CLAY AND HOW YOU WANTED TO MOVE SOME STUFF.

IT WE COULD GET THE AGENDA ON YOURS. YOU CAN GET A FULL AGENDA AND THE PARTIAL ONE. BUT YET THAT WOULD HELP US OUT. A LOT OF TIMES WE DO NOT GET THEM IN TIME. TO HELP EMOTIONAL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING AYE.

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>> THIS IS ACTUALLY TWO ITEMS. THE PRESENTATION WILL BE FOR THE TWO ITEMS. SEVENTEEN AND 18 IN YOUR AGENDA. THESE ARE THE SAME ACTIONS. THE DISTRICT LIKE REALLY

KACZMAREK,. >> I'M SO SORRY, THE APPLICATIONS WILL MOVE FOR FUTURE LAND USE. ALL IN THE SAME PARCEL. THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE DENSITY, THE MORATORIUM DOES NOT APPLY. AND THEN, 4.3 ACRES THAT WILL SPLIT BETWEEN 4.1 ACRES THE PURPLE IS, THOSE ACREAGES ADD UP TO 18.9 AND THEY WILL BE DISTRIBUTED, HERE, HERE AND HERE. AND WITH THIS, THIS PORTION RIGHT HERE, THE SAME ACREAGE WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED BETWEEN HERE AND THIS TINY BOX.

THE NEXT LINE. THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE MAP TO SHOW YOU WHAT IS AROUND THE AREAS. THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE ZONING. YOU ARE LOOKING AT BOTH APPLICATIONS. THANK YOU. YOU ADDITIONAL DENSITY AND THEY ARE KEEPING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ZONING CODE.

ON JANUARY 4, THEY VOTED 702 RECOMMEND APPROVAL. YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. END OF REZONING.

AND CONDITION ON PRECEDING ITEMS. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, FOR THE RECORD, THE PLANNERS AND ENGINEERS LOCATED AT 14755 IN JACKSONVILLE.

HERE REPRESENTING THE LANDOWNER AND WITH ME TONIGHT AS THEY COVERED THIS IS THE REZONING AND THEY ARE THE SAME WE ARE ESSENTIALLY MOVING THEM AROUND ON THE MAP FOR A BETTER PATTERN.

AND THERE IS NO INCREASE IN THE RESIDENTIAL INTENSITY. THIS IS A MAP THAT SHOWS THE PURPLE AREAS, THE MAIN ACTIVITY CENTER FOR LAKE ASBURY AT THE EXPRESSWAY INTERCHANGE WITH THE EXTENSION. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE AREA THAT SURROUNDS THE AREA WHICH IS THE VILLAGE CENTER AND EXISTING ROAD COUNTY ROAD 218 EXTENSION. SO THIS MAP SHOWS, AND BLUE ARE THE PROJECTS ON SANDRIDGE ROAD. THE FIRST CONNECTOR TO THE EXPRESSWAY, ALL OF THAT COMPLETM THE FIRST ONE YOU SEE IS CLEAR IS THERE AN UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT IS ESTIMATED TO BE

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THEY WILL BE FUNDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF FRONT AND THE MECHANISM TO DO THAT IS A DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. IN ORDER TO HAVE THE DISTRICT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, SO THEY HAVE UNDER CONTRACT WITH PROSPECTIVE BUYER, THIS.

THIS IS THE MAP AND YOU SEE THE PINK CIRCLES. YOU CAN SEEK TO THIS SURROUNDS THE SHADOW. THIS WILL SURROUND THE SCHOOL, AS YOU CAN SEE A PORTION OF THE FUTURE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD IS WITHIN THE VILLAGE CENTER. THIS DOES ALLOW MIXED USE FOR RESIDENTIAL. THE ISSUE IS BUT DENSITY PROPOSED IS TOO LOW FOR THE MINIMUM REQUIRED DENSITY WHICH IS FIVE UNITS OR GREATER. THAT CREATES THE NEED TO DO CHANGE AND LOOKING AT THE CHANGE WE MET WITH COUNTY STAFF AND THEY HAD SOME GOOD IDEAS.

WE OVERLAID THE WETLANDS AND STAFF SUGGESTED TO SQUARE IT OFF TO MAKE MORE SENSE.

SO, WE WENT AHEAD AND LOOKED AT OTHER ISSUES. YOU CAN SEE THE AREA TO THE NORTH ON A DIAGONAL. THAT FORMED A REASONABLE REASONABLE VALUE.

THIS SHOWS THE DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS. WE ARE TAKING LAND OUT OF THE WETLANDS. EXTEND THE VILLAGE CENTER UP TO THE POWERLINE TO THE SOUTHEAST AND NORTHWEST CORNERS AND MOVING IT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE LIGHT OVERLAP, NORTH OF THE EXTENSION IT MAKES SENSE TO CHANGE THAT TO AREAS THIS IS A PROPOSED THIS WILL HELP FACILITATE THE EXTENSION BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

WITH THAT WE WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE NO QUESTIONS, IT

APPEARS WELL THOUGHT OUT SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> WHO DREW THE CIRCLES,

ORIGINALLY. >> IT WAS 15 TO 18 YEARS WHEN THE CIRCLES WERE DRAWN.

>> I WAS SCRATCHING MY HEAD AND YOU CAN STILL WITHOUT BOUNDARIES.

OKAY, PUBLIC HEARING TIME. OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> JAMES OTTO, MY INFORMATION IS ON RECORD. I WAS THINKING YOU WERE TALKING ON THE OTHER SIDE BUT.

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>> THIS WAS BACK WHEN ROBERTSON WAS HERE. >> A SOFT TOPIC.

>> WE REALLY NEEDED THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEEN COMING HERE 15 YEARS.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND FOR -- FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS TAKING IT INTO FITZPATRICK I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. THERE'S SO MUCH CONJUNCTION.

WE DESERVE MONEY I KNOW YOU WILL TAKE POINTS. BUT THIS IS OUT OF LINE.

WE NEED AND MORATORIUM. WE ARE ALL BEGGING YOU THIS AREA YOU'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW, IT IS FOR CHANGES. I APPRECIATE YOU STANDING UP AND THE BUILDING PERMITS ONLY GOOD FOR ONE YEAR THEY SHOULD BE AVOIDED. I MAY LAND OWNER TO BUT I WILL

LET YOU HAVE YOUR 30 SECONDS BACK. >> CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND

BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> >> YOU ARE MOVING FOR ITEM 17.

>> PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE FOR HER APPROVAL. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> SO THE ORDINANCE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET WILL HAVE ONE REVISION FOR SECTION FIVE.

IF THE COURT -- CURRENT ORDINANCE SAY IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE AND WE HAVE TO REVISE THAT BECAUSE WE ARE BRINGING THE CHANGE WITH THE ZONING. THE ZONING WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE

ONCE THE, PILLION IS EFFECTIVE AND WE WILL MAKE THAT CHANGE. >> MY SECOND IS STILL GOOD.

>> YOU AGREE TO ALL OF THAT. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> THIS IS A SMALL-SCALE.

>> IT USUALLY TAKES 31 DAYS. >> THERE IS A SMALL SCALE. >> IT WILL BE 30 DAYS BEFORE IT

IS EFFECTIVE. >> OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY SAYING

AYE. OPALS, IT CARRIES 5-0. >> WE ARE@19.

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>> THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL THOUGHT IS COMING BACK TO YOU IT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN OCTOBER, THE PURPOSE IS TO ALIGN OUR COMP PLAN WITH THE ROLES THAT AREN'T LISTED AND THE MOBILITY PLAN.

IT MOVED FORWARD TO THE STATE AND THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT BUT THE ADDITION TO THE COMP PLAN MAP IS FOR STATE ROAD 21, A PORTION OF IT AND COUNTY ROAD 315 BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO

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YOU IN OCTOBER AND NOW COMING BACK OR TRANSMITTAL. >> OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BACK TO THE BOARD. >> IF THESE ROUNDABOUTS GET

APPROVED WE WILL HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN. >> THESE ARE ROADS THAT ARE LISTED ON OUR MOBILITY PLAN. THE ROADS ARE ALREADY ON THE COMP PLAN.

>> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR INDICATE BY

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SAYING AYE. >> OPALS, SAME, IT CARRIES 5-0. >> PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF PUD 2021 -- 0) REZONING TO APPLICATION TO AMEND THE BLACK CREEK MARINA PLANNED

UNIT. >> APPLICATION PUD 21 -- ZERO EIGHT IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING BLACK CREEK ARENA. THE APPLICANT IS BLACK CREEK MARINA LLC.

FOR PURPOSES TO REQUEST REZONING OR AN AMENDMENT OR THE 4.7 ACRES LOCATED AT U.S. 17.

THE BLACK CREEK MARINA PUD WAS ADOPTED FEBRUARY 2016. AS ADOPTED, THE PUD PROVIDES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL USES. THE PUD REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 100 SQUARE FEET AND A MAXIMUM OF 750 SQUARE FEET OF NON- RESIDENTIAL USE PER DWELLING UNIT WITHIN THE PUD. THAT IS NOT CHANGING. BUFF CHANGE, THE REQUESTED CHANGE TO THE LONG RESIDENTIAL ACRE IS A 20-FOOT WIDE BUFFER BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL USERS AND IT ADDS A LIST OF THE RETAIL USES ALLOWED WITHIN THE NON- RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE EXISTING ZONING AND OUTLINED IN THE RED IS THE AREA NONRESIDENTIAL PORTION THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.

THE USES THAT ARE PROPOSED ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE USES ALLOWED IN THE BUSINESS DISTRICT. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DETERMINE THE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE MIXED LAND USE CATEGORY THEY PROPOSE TEXT CHANGE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO PUD -- ZERO EIGHT AS DESCRIBED IN THE

WRITTEN SUMMARY. >> WHAT IS A TYPE B BUFFER? >> I FAILED TO BRING THAT.

THAT, 20-FOOT IS THE WITH. TYPE B REQUIRES I MAY HAVE TO LOOK TO SUSAN, I THINK I COULD

GET YOU THE SPECIFIC SPIRIT. >> THERE'S VISITATION AND FENCE? >> I CAN'T REMEMBER THE HEIGHT.

>> IS WHAT IS ALLOWED HERE. >> GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THESE ARE PROPOSED AS THE TEXT CHANGE.

>> ARE WE ALLOWED TO SAY WE DON'T WANT CERTAIN ONES? >> THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE

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BELIEVE THEY ARE APPROPRIATE OR NOT FOR THE SITE. >> NO ONE CAN GO BACK ON YOU.

>> IT COMES UNDER ALLOWABLE USES. THAT ALL COMES AS ONE.

>> TWO DATE IT IS PUD ZONING. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE ASKING FOR A CHANGE TO ALLOW THESE USES IN

THE AREA. >> WHAT IS ALLOWED NOW? >> RIGHT NOW, THERE'S THE RESTAURANTS AND OF COURSE I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO SUSAN BECAUSE SHE HAS THE LANGUAGE.

IT'S NOT AS DETAILED. THERE ARE OUTDOOR -- ENTERTAINMENT USED TODAY.

THERE ARE SOME OUTDOOR AND I'M NOT SURE HOW IT IS PHRASED. >> THE AREA WHERE THE RESTAURANT

WAS SUPPOSED TO GO IS THAT STILL ALLOWED? >> IT IS STILL GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT. MY PROBLEM, THIS IS COMING OVER THE BRIDGE.

WOULDN'T WE WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK NICE, A CARWASH -- >> THE CONCERN PLANNING

COMMITTEE, IT IS IN EXCESS OF 2 ACRES. >> THIS IS JUST FOR 2 ACRES?

>> 4.7 ACRES IS THE AREA. THERE WILL BE A SITDOWN RESTAURANT THAT OVERLOOKS THE

WATER. >> ON PART OF THE 4.7 ACRES. >> ORIGINALLY WENT THEY APPROVED IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG RESTAURANT. THEY COULD NOT SELL IT SO THEY REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE RESTAURANT AND THEN THEY HAD SQUARE FOOTAGE LEFT OVER.

SINCE THEY CAN'T USE IT THEY DECIDED TO PUT IT ON ANOTHER PARCEL SO THEY COULD DEVELOP SOMETHING ELSE. I DON'T KNOW, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IN-AND-OUT AND THAT KIND

OF STUFF. >> YOU CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON WHAT USES YOU MAY NOT WANT TO

SEE. >> >> THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT STICK OUT LIKE A CARWASH. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WOULD BACK UP TRAFFIC, I DON'T WANT TO

SEE ANYTHING. >> I'M NOT SURE YOU WOULD WANT A CARWASH THAT CLOSE TO THE CREEK.

>> THEY WOULD HAVE TO CONTAIN. RUNOFF FOR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE A BAIT SHOP NEAR THE KAYAK LAUNCH AND THERE'S THAT PATH THERE. AND SOME STUFF FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> IT SITS ON HIGHWAY 17. >> THERE WOULD BE A BUFFER. >> IT IS REALLY INTENDED TO BE

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-- >> THERE'S ONLY ONE AREA FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL.

>> OKAY, ARE WE DONE WITH QUESTIONS? WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT

AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION. >> GOOD EVENING SUSAN FRAZIER, THIS PUD WAS APPROVED IN 2016 AND IT INCLUDED THE RESIDENTIAL THAT YOU SEE AS YOU COME OVER THE BRIDGE. THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL, THE AMENDMENT WE ARE SEEKING IS TO REDUCE THE PERMITTED RESTAURANT SIZE WHEN THIS CAME IN, EVERYONE WANTED A WATERFRONT RESTAURANT, WE HAD ZIP LINES AND SO MUCH GOING. COVID-19 HAS CHANGED THAT, SO HAS THE MARKET. I THINK THE APPLICANT AND LANDOWNERS HERE AND THEY WILL TALK ABOUT THE RESTAURANT THEY SECURED AND WHY THAT WOULD BE AN ASSET FOR THE COUNTY.

AND BOAT SLIPS SO WHEN WE WROTE THE PUD TWO MONTHS AGO THE STAFF SAID THERE IS A BUFFER AND WE ARE HAPPY TO ARTICULATE IT. AND THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT, WHERE THE BUFFER IS TODAY ON THE SITE. SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN YOU WILL CONSIDER TO APPROVE.

EVERYTHINGEV IS ALREADY APPROVED EXCEPT THE BOX THAT SAYS OTHER AND NONRESIDENTIAL USE.

BUT THIS IS FOR A RESTAURANT RESTAURANT AND ENTERTAINMENT USED.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF USES, I HAVE A COPY OF THAT. AT THE BOTTOM IT SAYS ENTERTAINMENT USE. THIS IS WHERE IT IS DEPICTED ANY NOISE WOULD GO TO THE CREEK.

IT'S TALKING ABOUT AMPLIFIED SOUND. THE SENTENCE ABOVE IS WHAT THEY CONSIDERED. THE FOLLOWING USES PERMITTED ANYWHERE WITHIN THE PARCEL.

BUT IF YOU READ THE CONDITION, IT ACTUALLY SAID ENTERTAINMENT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT ON THE SITE PLAN. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAID THIS WILL MAKE IT MORE CLEAR.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUFFER. THERE IS A 20-FOOT BUFFER AND IF YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN, ALONG THE HORIZONTAL EDGE, THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE PROPERTY YOU SEE LANDSCAPING, WE TURN THE BOUNDARY AND THE PARKING SPACES. AND SO THEN, IF YOU GO FORWARD, THIS IS THE PLAQUE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. 10 FEET IS ALREADY ON THE PLAQUE. WHEN YOU DRIVE BY NOW, YOU SEE A WHITE FENCE AT THE BACK OF THE

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WE TALK TO STAFF AND THEY SAID AS LONG AS THE 20 FEET IS THERE WE ARE GOOD.

OTHER THAN THAT, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE USES IS WHY WE ARE HERE.

WE CONCURRED THIS IS A COMMERCIAL LOCATION THIS IS A SIX WAYNE HIGHWAY.

THIS WAS A DIRT ROAD BEFORE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCEL. THE ACCESS IS APPROVED.

AS FAR AWAY FROM U.S. 17 IS YOU CAN GET. THERE IS A SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THERE IS A SETBACK FROM U.S. 17, WHATEVER GOALS THERE WE WILL HAVE THAT. THE CARWASH IS NOT AESTHETICALLY WHERE WE WANT TO GO.

THE OTHER USES AND THEY SAID WE HAD A CONTRACT WE COULD TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IS COMING.

THE GOAL IS TO SAVE THESE ARE IF THE BIKE SHOP SHOWED UP, BIKE SHOP THIS LIST OF USES ALLOWS US TO PUT A NUMBER OF THINGS THEY ARE ALL WHICH WE THINK ARE APPROPRIATE TO THE HIGHWAY, ACCESS AND SOLICITS PEOPLE. WE HOPE THE PERSON COMES IN AND WE WANT TO HELP.

THIS WOULD ALLOW THAT. THESE ARE THE USES. >> QUESTIONS.

IS THERE A CONSIDERATION TO ZIP LINING. >> WE WENT TO LOOK AT ONE.

THERE WAS A WALL, THAT IS WHY THE RESTAURANT WAS BIG. THIS IS PRETTY MONSTROUS.

IT WAS RESTAURANT TIERED ACCENT ALL OF THAT. THIS WILL HAVE VOCAL THING TO HAVE. PEOPLE DON'T NEED THAT. WHERE FOOTAGE.

>> I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD SAY A ZIP LINE ACROSS. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO

EXTEND. >> WE THINK IT WOULD BE A LOVELY ADDITION.

>> DO YOU HAVE ONE IN THE OTHER AREA? >> THEY ARE BUILDING THE SLITS.

>> WE HAVE TO GENERATE INCOME SOMEHOW. >> JAMES OTTO, I HAVE THE ALTHOUGH THE ENTERTAINMENT MAP. I THINK THAT IS WHERE IT IS. THERE ARE THREE AREAS FOR ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. IF HIS IS ONE OF THEM, I AM GRANDFATHERED IN.

[03:55:08]

I BELIEVE IT IS IN THE AREA YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. IF I HAD A DECENT MAP I COULD LOOK AT IT. LET ME FINISH THE REST. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE A MORATORIUM I THINK NUMBER 15 WOULD BE AVOIDED ALTOGETHER. THEY ARE ASKING FOR CHANGES.

>> SO, I WAS ASKING FOR SOME ADVICE HERE. >> AGAINST THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION. THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT WOULD BE AND THE AREA.

>> YOU ONLY HAVE SO MANY IN THE COUNTY. MAYBE I NEED TO CALL MR. CONNOR, THE ATTORNEY AND SEE WHAT WAS THE DEAL IF YOU USE THIS FOR SOMETHING ELSE IT HAS TO BE REPLACED YOU ARE SITTING HERE SWAPPING STUFF WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THESE BUSINESSES, SO, THEY WILL WANT TO COME. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> THANK YOU MR. OTTO. >> ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> MOTION. >> IS NOT MY DISTRICT ANYMORE. >> CAN YOU MAKE IT SOUND NICE.

>> >> PEOPLE WITHOUT A CARWASH. >> DID YOU WANT TO PULL OUT THE

CARWASH, IS NOT A BIG DEAL. >> MAKE A LOT OF WORK. >> IT IS TO YOU I HAVEN'T MOTIONED SECOND. FURTHER DISCUSSION? PROPOSE SAME SIDE.

[LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION]

>> OKAY LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION, DO WE HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THESE, NO ACTION?

>> CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. ANYTHING. COMMISSIONER?

[COUNTY ATTORNEY]

NO. COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> THE CANVASSING BOARD.

WE ALL KNOW THAT WILL BE COMING UP AND HE WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THE CHAIR AND THE

ALTERNATE TO PLAN TO ATTEND. IT IS AN ALL DAY EVENT. >> PUT IT DOWN AND WE BULL TRAP

[04:00:20]

SOMEONE ELSE AS NEEDED. >> CAN I SHE WILL QUESTION. I SAW ON THE NEWS, I SAW DO FALL

[COUNTY MANAGER]

HOW CAN WE HAVE ANYMORE AFTER TODAY. >>

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> NOTHING FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT LEAVES, PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> NOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ANYTHING. >> I WILL FINISH THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS SPIRIT I WANT TO SHOW, I THINK JEHOVAH GOD WOULD BE UPSET WITH HIS CREATION THE WAY IT IS TODAY. I THINK HE WOULD BE UPSET WITH THE GREEN SPACE.

THE 24-7 ANIMAL CONTROL WITH THE PUSH OF THE GROWTH. SURELY YOU PLAN FOR THAT.

BUT LET THE SHARE DO THEIR JOB IN HIGHER 24/7-ANIMAL CONTROL YOUR BUDGET.

I WAS WONDERING IF THE CAMP LANDING REPRESENTATIVE WAS STILL HERE, BUT HE WAS COMING TO THE MEETINGS JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET MY BUSINESS LICENSE. MY BUSINESSES ALL OF CLAY COUNTY AND I SHOULD BE GETTING MY MONEY. HE SAID THE ONE BY THE LIBRARY WAS A NIGHTMARE.

THAT PARK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A HOMELESS SHELTER WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER DOG SHELTER WE NEED TO BUILD A HUMAN SHELTER AND TURNED THE FAIRGROUNDS INTO IT OR SOMETHING. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WEST WING, BUT YOU DIDN'T SAY HOW THE WATER WENT ON THE ROAD, I HEARD IT WAS BETTER IF YOU PUSHED IT EAST BUT YOU DID NOT DO IT THE RIGHT WAY. THIS.ABOUT THE DISCLOSURES ON- I COULD LIST A HALF-DOZEN THINGS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT THAT SHOULD BE WITH THE REAL ESTATE COMPANY. I THINK IT SHOULD BE TOLD TO EVERYONE WHO MOVES TO THE COUNTY WHEN EVERYONE IS GETTING SICK, IT IS NOT CLEANED UP.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

WE VISITED WITH OUR STATE. >> WE VISITED WITH STATE DELEGATION TO ALERT THEM ABOUT THINGS WE ACT CONCERNS ABOUT. THE CARD WE CAME UP WITH. I THINK IT FELL ON DEAF EARS FOR

[04:05:30]

THE MOST PART. >> COMMISSIONER RENNINGER I WENT ON A TOUR.

AT SOME THINGS THERE THAT WE SAW, THE STRONG WATER RETENTION SYSTEM.

IS DESIGNED TO FLOOD THERE WERE PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND AND THERE WAS A RAVINE AND THEY TURNED INTO -- IT INTO SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY GOOD. AND BECAUSE OF THAT PRIVATE INVESTMENT WINNING THEIR WITH THE HOTEL, PARKING GARAGE AND APARTMENT OVERLOOKING THE PARK.

AND AN INCUBATOR WHICH WAS DONE A LOT CHEAPER THAN WHAT WE PROPOSE YEARS AGO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE CARES ACTIVE MONEY. THIS WAS DESIGNED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS EXTRA FOR THE RESIDENCE. ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING THINGS AND WE DID NOT GET TO SEE IT BECAUSE IT WAS LATE IN THE AFTERNOON.

COMMISSIONER DICK 16 I MADE A HASTY RETREAT AND BOOKED A UBER WHICH WAS INTERESTING.

UTILIZING A CLOSED LANDFIELD TO BECOME A RECLAMATION FIELD. WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO PUT ON THE LANDFIELD, WE GO TO THE PRIORITY AND WHAT THEY POINTED OUT, THEY HAD A REMOTE CONTROL AIRPLANE AND THEY ALSO HAD A CROSS COUNTRY RUNNING FACILITY AROUND THE LANDFILL.

JUST SOME THINGS THAT THEY DO. THEY ARE VERY FORTHRIGHT WITH WHAT THEY DO.

THE ACCOUNTING MANAGER GAVE A PEP TALK AT THE BEGINNING AND TOLD US, WHATEVER YOU SEE STEEL, WE WILL HELP YOU. SO THE COUNTY MANAGER MAY CONTACT ANY SAID BY ALL MEANS THEY HAD SOME BUDGETARY MEANS THEY WORK COUNTING AND THE PEOPLE GET THAT INFORMATION AT SOME POINT. ALL IN ALL A GOOD WAY TO EXPAND YOUR MIND ON WHAT WE CAN DO.

THAT WAS PRETTY COOL. STOP THANK YOU FOR YOUR GETTING US READY FOR THE WORKSHOP TODAY.

I THOUGHT IT WENT PRETTY WELL. THE ONLY THING I WOULD SUGGEST, AS WE LOOK, WE ARE FORCING A LOT OF STUFF DOWN THE PIPELINE AND WE MAY NEED TO TAKE A BREATHER FOR THE WORKSHOPS BUT I GUESS WE

WILL PLAY THAT BY EAR. >> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, WE HAVE SEVERAL SITES AND WE ARE SPENDING ABOUT 1 MILLION BUCKS PER YEAR TO LOOK AT X LANDFIELD SPIRIT WE DO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SOME DEVELOPMENT. THE JOB.

>> COMMISSIONER. >> I WILL START BY SAYING DITTO. I WANT TO AMPLIFY A LITTLE BIT AND REFLECT ON THE PROJECTS THAT THE COMMISSIONER TALKED ABOUT. THEY WERE IN A PLAN THAT STARTED IN 2010. QUITE HONESTLY, THE COMMISSIONER SHEPHERDING THAT PLANT SINCE 2010, THAT IS LONGER THAN EIGHT YEARS. THERE MAY BE SOME BENEFIT OR DETRIMENT TO TERM LIMITS. I GUESS I AM SAYING, IT IS A PLAN FOR 30 YEARS.

[04:10:09]

CRA'S AND PROJECTS, GATEWAY TO CLAY, COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE, IT WILL TAKE A WHILE.

IT TAKES A WILD TO LINE UP THE RESOURCES AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

IM GOING TO SPEAK TO THE COMMENTS, I DID NOT COME HERE TO DO STORMWATER ROADS.

I CAME TO LOOK AT BIG PICTURE KIND OF STUFF. THEY WILL BRING THE ASPHALT OUT THERE. SOME OF THESE TRIPS TO THE LEGISLATURE AND WHEREVER, YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE HIDDEN JEWELS. THE TOUR WE WENT ON.

WE WORKED THE LAST TWO COMMISSIONERS TO GET OFF OF THE BUS, SO TO SPEAK.

BECAUSE IT IS HARD. TIME MANAGEMENT IS HARD. IT WAS WELL WORTH IT.

THANK YOU EVERYONE. >> I DID NOT STAY FOR INNOVATION DAY AND THE REASON IS I CAME BACK AND PURCHASING AND OTHER STAFF TRIED SOMETHING NEW WITH THE BROADBAND PROPOSAL.

WHEN THE COMPANY'S CAME IN TO THE VOTING COMMITTEE THEY HAD ME SITTING ON THOSE.

THERE WERE PROPOSALS THAT RANGE FROM, NOT A TON OF MONEY, OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS THAT'S RIGHT NEVERMIND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE LATELY LATER. THERE ARE SOME THAT YOU FOR THE STARS. AT ANY RATE THERE ARE THERE IS GOOD NEWS ON THE BROADBAND FRONT. AND A MESSAGE THAT WAS SENT OUT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND TOWERS LIKE THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A SOLUTION FOR A LOT OF RESIDENTS COMING SOON AND I APPRECIATED THE PARTICIPATION AND HOPEFULLY IF THERE ARE OTHERS YOU CAN SIT IN ON THAT WILL BE WORTHWHILE. I SHARED WITH THE STAFF, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DID THAT AND THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE ONE BOARD MEMBER AND IT GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME OR THOSE THINGS, SO IT WAS GOOD.

THIS AFTERNOON I SPOKE WITH HARRIS FROM CHINA FOR AND AT 6:00 P.M. THEY RAN A STORY ABOUT THE TWO HIT-AND-RUN BICYCLE DEATHS WE HAD OVER THE WEEKEND ON COUNTY ROAD 218 AND APPARENTLY OVERNIGHT LAST NIGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER PEDESTRIAN IN ANOTHER LOCATION ON 218 THAT ENDED UP AS THEY FOUND HIM AND GOT HIM TO THE HOSPITAL, IT APPEARS HE WAS ALSO A VICTIM OF A HIT AND RUN AS A PEDESTRIAN. SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT SAFETY. I JUST STRESSED TO HER THAT, SAFETY IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO THE BOARD AND WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION AND BICYCLES AND WE UNDERSTAND PART OF THE CHALLENGES EIGHT RURAL ENVIRONMENT MOVING INTO A SUBURBAN ENVIRONMENT IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE. THAT WAS AT 6:00 P.M. OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT WATCH IT BECAUSE YOU WERE HERE. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THE COMMENTS AND FINALLY I WILL END ON A POSITIVE NOTE. I ASKED HOWARD IF WE COULD DO A CERTIFICATE RESOLUTION, NOT HAVING HER HERE BECAUSE SHE IS OUT WITH COVID-19 BUT I GOT, US COUPLE OF SUNDAYS AGO SHE SHARES A BIRTHDAY WITH DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING AND SHE'S OLDER THAN MBYTE TWO YEARS BUT I WENT TO A BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR MRS. FRANKLIN I -- I WILL LEAVE THIS WITH TERESA SO THE REST OF YOU CAN

[04:15:05]

THERE WAS A WHOLE PRESENTATION. I WENT TO A BIRTHDAY PARTY AND A IT WAS REALLY NEAT AND THEY DID AN INTERVIEW ON THIS SIDE OF THE PAPER. I LEAVE THIS WITH TERESA AND YOU CAN READ IT AT YOUR LEISURE. IN 100 YEARS THEY HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE IN CLAY COUNTY.

SHE LIVES IN. STATION SO SHE IS WHERE THE INTERCHANGES GOING THROUGH SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE CHANGES SHE HAS MADE. SHE DOES NOT SEE VERY WELL BUT SHE CAN HEAR AND SING. SHE BROKE OUT IN SONG SO I HAD THAT PLEASURE.

AT ANY RATE, I WILL LEAVE THIS WITH TERESA. >> A LOT OF SAILORS LIVED ON

THE. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE THANK YOU FOR COMING AND I KNOW THIS WAS

TOP. >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, I WAS ACTUALLY SUPPOSED TO GO TO THAT AND I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN THERE. BUT SHE COVERED FOR ME AND YOU ARE BLESSED TO GO THERE. I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS. THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE FOLLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR LISTING TO THE PEOPLE AND I KNOW WE REALLY TRY TO DO THAT.

STAFF, IT FRUSTRATES ME THAT WHEN PEOPLE CAN COME BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SO MUCH TIME IS USED BUT I GUESS THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS AND IT HAS TO BE DONE BUT I WISH THEY COULD BE

CHARGED IF THEY COME BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN. >> I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND BY THE WAY I HAD SURGERY, I MISSED ALL KINDS OF STUFF. YOU ALL WENT TO TALLAHASSEE BUT THANK YOU FOR COVERING FOR EVERYTHING FOR ME. I HAD A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO TO HER HOUSE BEFORE THAT. THEY ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND THEIR SERVICES.

THAT IS ONE OF MY NEAR AND DEAR CHARITIES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HELP.

I KNOW THAT, WE HAVE SO MANY THAT ASK FOR HELP AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM ANYONE ELSE BUT I KNOW WE HAVE FUNDS COMING UP BUT I WANTED TO SEE, IF THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD MAKE SURE THEY ARE INCLUDED SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK BUT I WANT TO ASK FOR THAT THEY ARE REALLY IN NEED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF COVID-19. I THINK THAT IS A HUGE NEED KNOWING THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE IN THE COUNTY THAT PEOPLE CAN STAY AND BE SAFE WITH ABUSE.

THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE STAFF FOR PUTTING THE WORKSHOP TOGETHER.

IT EXCEEDED MY EXPECTATIONS. I UNDERSTAND GOING FORWARD IT WILL GET EVEN HAIRIER AS WE TRY TO START NEW ONES WHEN YOU HAVE THE OLD ONES BEHIND YOU. GIVING YOUR BEST SHOT IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE GETTING STUFF DONE. THAT IS A GOOD FEELING AFTER SITTING UP HERE FOR FIVE HOURS OR WHATEVER IT WAS. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. HAVE A GOOD

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.