[CALL TO ORDER]
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          OKAY. LET'S CALL THE -- WHAT DO WE CALL THIS ONE? WORKSHOP FOR STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE BCC, THE NEXT YEAR. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT TO ORDER, EVERYBODY APPEARS TO BE HERE. AND THE FIRST THING UP IS WE'VE 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS]
GOT PUBLIC COMMENT AND I'VE GOT THREE CARDS, I THINK. ERIC ANDERSON. 
          >> I'M HERE TO TOUCH ON TWO ITEMS, THE REGIONAL COUNSEL ACTUALLY COLLECTS THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FROM OUR 26 MUNICIPALITIES IN SEVEN COUNTIES. 
          WHAT I HAVE IS THE PRINT COPIES OF WHAT THOSE ARE. TWO DIFFERENT STYLES, ONE BEING A TYPICAL PALM CARD AND ONE BEING 11 BY 8. BY THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO CONVEY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE. 
          SMALL COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE, COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BROADBAND. THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS ON JANUARY 6TH, WE WILL BE CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL AWARDS LUNCHEON AND ELECTED OFFICIALS RECEPTION. 
          AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT PEOPLE, ORGANIZATIONS, PROJECTS MAKING NORTHEAST FLORIDA A GREATER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY. WE INVITE ALL OF YOU TO ATTEND. 
          I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE REGISTERED TO ATTEND. THIS IS OUR ANNUAL OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY CELEBRATE THOSE THINGS GOING WELL ACROSS OUR REGION. 
          THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON. 
          >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. THANKS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS, OR MORE THAN THAT, I'LL TRY TO DO IT IN THREE MINUTES. BUT JUST DON'T HAVE A TRAP 
          DOOR. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  I'VE GOT A BUTTON RIGHT HERE. 
          >> I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER BURKE AND CHAIRMAN BOLLA ON MEETING ON TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS. WE TALKED ABOUT GOALS AND ALSO THE POINT I WANTED TO BRING UP. 
          THAT IS ABOUT CREATING A CRA, THE CITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS, THIS IS A GREAT TOOL TO HAVE IN OUR TOOLBOX, ATTRACTING INDIVIDUALS TO OUR AREA. SO WE WANTED TO YOU KNOW, SUBMIT THIS AS AN OPTION, I HANDED OUT AT EACH OF YOUR SPOT, A FOLDER THAT HAD A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE CRA IS, REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. AND IT IS TO HELP DO A LOT OF AREAS, CORRECT AREAS LIKE SLUM AREAS, BLIGHTED AREAS, AREAS SHORTAGE IN HOUSING, AS WELL AS ECONOMICALLY DISTRESSED AREAS. I THINK PROBABLY MOST OF YOU KNOW WHAT THE CRA IS. 
          BUT THE PROCESS IS NOT AN OVERNIGHT OR TWO OR THREE WEEK THING. 
          THIS IS PROBABLY A SIX TO EIGHT OR NINE MONTH PROCESS. BUT WE WANTED TO REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT IN THAT. THE INFORMATION, THE PROJECTS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, AGAIN, SIDEWALKS, STREETSCAPES, PARKING DECKS, GARAGES, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND ALL OF THOSE ARE LISTED ON THE INTRODUCTION STATEMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. 
          WANTED TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT, A QUICK BENEFIT IS THAT IN OTHER CRAS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, THE AMOUNT OF PUBLIC INVESTMENT THAT IS PUT IN TO THIS PROCESS, FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT WAS PUT IN, THERE WAS $19 OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT THAT CAME AS A RESULT OF THAT. SO YOU LOOK AT THIS AS LEVERAGING YOUR ACCOUNT. 
          YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT. A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT WITHIN YOUR PACKET SOMETHING FROM JACKSONVILLE BEACH, THAT TALKS ABOUT THEIR PROCESS AND HOW THEIRS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE A WHILE. 
          THEN YOU ALSO HAVE A MAP, PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS EXPANDING IT TO INCLUDE UP TO THE COUNTY PROPERTIES AS WELL. SO IT WOULD INCORPORATE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE. WE ARE DOING A COMBINED PARKING DECK, PARKING STUDY WITH THE COUNTY. SO SOME OF THAT WILL KICK OUT. AND ALSO ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION, IT WOULD INVOLVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE COUNTY AS WELL. 
          IT WOULD BE A FIVE OR SEVEN MEMBER GROUP, BOARD THAT WOULD MANAGE ALL OF THIS. 
          AND THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THAT. I SEE MY THREE MINUTES ARE UP. 
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BUT ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON THE TOPIC? I WILL BE GLAD TO COME BACK AT 
          ANOTHER TIME AND TALK MORE ABOUT IT. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  ANYBODY? 
          >> WE LOOKED AT CRAS UP IN ORANGE PARK MANY MOONS AGO. IT'S VERY CRITICAL THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THE IMPACT AND ALSO THE BENEFIT OF CREATING A CRA AND ALSO THE RISK. THERE ARE RISKS IF IT'S NOT MANAGED WELL. 
          I THINK WE SUFFERED SOME PREVIOUS CRA EFFORTS IN ORANGE PARK AND THEREFORE, WE DID NOT PURSUE IT. BUT I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY A GOAL WORTHY OF YOU KNOW, PURSUIT. AND SO YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T -- I JUST GOT THIS, I'LL TAKE A LOOK 
          AT IT LATER. >> THE CHART THAT IS IN THERE SHOWS YOU THE BASICS OF WHEN YOU'RE FREEZING THE PROPERTY TAXES AND HOW THE GROWTH AND THE INCREMENT WILL GROW OVER 
          TIME. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  THANK YOU. MR. ROYAL, WHAT HAT DO YOU HAVE 
          ON TODAY? >> I'M ACTUALLY WEARING A NEW ONE. 
          MY NAME IS VAN ROYAL. 3688 LACOSTA COURT HERE. I'M NOT HERE WITH CLAY COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, I'M REPRESENTED BY THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT TO THE CRA FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT. IF WE LOOK AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON IN VARIOUS CITIES, PARTICULARLY JACKSONVILLE. 
          YOU TALK ABOUT GRANTS. AS A BUSINESS OWNER, PROPERTY OWNER, IN DOWNTOWN GREEN COVE SPRINGS AND OTHER AREAS, THIS IS A FUNDING SOURCE THAT IN ALL ACTUALITY WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. 
          IT'S A BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY. IT'S NOT A GRANT. IT'S NOT A GIVE-AWAY. 
          THEY'RE NOT TAKING PROPERTY TAX DOLLARS OR ANY OTHER KIND OF DOLLARS AND GIVING IT TO A PROPERTY OWNER AND SAYING GO OUT AND ENHANCE YOUR PROPERTY OR BUILD THIS AND WE'LL PAY X OF THIS. A LOT OF PLACES DO THAT IN ORDER TO ATTRACT INVESTMENT. 
          WE'RE NOW TRYING TO REBUILD OUR DOWNTOWN. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 35 YEARS. 
          AND WE'RE MAKING BIG STRIDES. THIS PARTICULAR EFFORT IN ALL ACTUALITY ENHANCES THE PUBLIC PROPERTY AROUND THESE INVESTMENTS. IT PROVIDES CONNECTIVITY FOR NEW BUSINESSES, I THINK Y'ALL HAVE SEEN SOME VARIOUS, MR. KNIGHT AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS, SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO INVESTMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          BY DOING SO, WE ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT IN OUR PREVIOUS STUDIES AND GOING THROUGH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WITH CITIZENS, THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT. 
          THEY WANT RESTAURANTS, THEY WANT NEWNESS, BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT ALONE FOR A LONG TIME TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. AND THIS IS A WAY OF DOING THAT AND ENHANCING THAT VALUE AND THEN ADDITIONAL TAX DOLLARS PUT BACK INTO THAT AREA. I DON'T HAVE TO TELL ANYBODY NOW ABOUT THE POPULARITY OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PUTTING ON. WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL PARADE. 
          FOOD TRUCK FRIDAY. THESE ARE ALL OPEN TO LARGELY MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. AND LARGELY SPRING PARK IS SUPPORTED BY CITIZENS OF GREEN COVE SPRINGS. THIS IS A WAY TO GET A LITTLE BIT BACK AND PUT THAT INTO OUR PUBLIC AREA. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'M HOPING THAT Y'ALL WILL GIVE US A TIME CERTAIN SO THAT WE DON'T KICK THIS AROUND AND LOSE SOME POTENTIAL INVESTMENT DOLLARS BY OTHER PEOPLE OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE AREA RIGHT NOW. 
          THE LAST THING IS, AS WE TRY AS BUSINESSMEN TO CLEAN UP OUR AREAS AND REALLY MAKE THINGS WORK, I HOPE YOU WILL GIVE STRONG CONSIDERATION TO THE BOAT DOCK AND HOW WE WILL WORK TOGETHER. WE KICKED THIS AROUND FOR A LONG TIME TOO. 
          AND WE NEED TO DECIDE IF WE CAN DO THIS OR NOT AND TAKE THESE FUNDS FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          ST. VINCENT'S IS GETTING READY TO TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE AS WELL. 
          THE ENTRANCE IS GOING TO CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE WORK Y'ALL DO. I'LL COME BACK WITH ANOTHER HAT 
          SOMETIME SOON. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  THANK YOU, VAN. 
          OKAY. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? HEARING NONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND JUST A COUPLE OF PRE-THINGS. 
          [1.  2022 Goals and Objectives]
WE DID THIS BEFORE, THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION AND IT OCCURRED TO ME, IF WE CAN FIND THREE OR FOUR TOPICS THAT ALL OF US CAN GET BEHIND AND AGREE ON, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, RATHER THAN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET STUFF DONE THAT MAYBE WE DON'T ALL AGREE ON, IT WOULD PUT US WAY AHEAD OF THE GAME HERE FOR THIS YEAR. A LOT OF THESE IDEAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ARE GOING TO TAKE MORE THAN A YEAR TO PUT TOGETHER. 
          BUT AT LEAST WE THEN HAVE A DIRECTION. I HAVE HEARD COMMENTS FROM MY 
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FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THAT HEY, THE PREVIOUS BOARD STARTED THIS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS CAME FROM. THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY, AS FIVE COMMISSIONERS, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE WANT TO SEE THE COUNTY GO, AT LEAST NEXT YEAR AND PROBABLY THE YEARS TO COME. 
          WITH THAT, I'VE ASKED HOWIE TO PULL THINGS TOGETHER HERE AND GET US ORGANIZED AND FIND US A MODERATOR, SINCE I LIKE TO HAVE IDEAS OF MY OWN BROUGHT UP AND I CAN'T DO BOTH. 
          TURN IT OVER TO YOU GUYS. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD, GOOD MORNING. 
          THIS IS JUST A GREAT THING HAPPENING HERE TODAY, AS WE'RE OBVIOUSLY IN THE HOLIDAY SEASONS AND THE END OF 2021. WHICH IS QUITE UNBELIEVABLE, IF YOU THINK WHERE WE STARTED. 
          JUST TO POINT OUT, CHAIRMAN, IS THERE MANY STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE COUNTY, EACH MUNICIPALITY IS REPRESENTED HERE BY THE TOWN OR CITY MANAGERS THAT ARE HERE. MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS ARE ALSO REPRESENTED THROUGHOUT FROM THE EDC, CCDA, AND CHAMBER THAT ARE HERE. 
          AND IT'S GREAT TO HAVE THEM HERE WITHIN THE AUDIENCE. ALSO SCHOOL BOARD, LANCE IS HERE. LANCE IS NEW TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT ALSO SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATION ALSO. STEVE IS HERE, CLAY ELECTRIC AND I KNOW JEREMY JOHNSTON WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE FROM CCOA. JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT TO THE AUDIENCE WHO WAS HERE. 
          [2.  Moderator - Dr. Anna Lebesch, JAXUSA]
LOOKING AT THIS, SHE SAID YES AFTER SHE TALKED TO HER LEADERSHIP AT JAXUSA. 
          OBVIOUSLY, AS POSTED ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE DR.ANA LEBESCH, WHO IS VICE PRESIDENT OF TALENT DEVELOPMENT, SHE HAS HER DOCTORATE IN EDUCATION FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, GO GATORS. AND I THINK SHE IS MORE THAN CAPABLE OF MODERATING TODAY'S WORKSHOP. FOR THE PUBLIC, EACH COMMISSIONER HAS STICKERS, OR POST-IT NOTES THAT HAS THEIR PARTICULAR PRIORITIES IN IT. AND EACH COMMISSIONER WILL BRIEF THOSE. WE HAVE MAJOR AREAS HERE UP ON THE WALL, WHICH I WILL LET DR. 
          LEBESCH TALK ABOUT AND PROVIDE YOU THE GROUND RULES OF THIS. WE'RE SCHEDULED TO END APPROXIMATELY 12 O'CLOCK. WE DO HAVE WIGGLE ROOM THERE IF WE NEEDED TO EXTEND A LITTLE LONGER. BUT PENDING THAT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ME? 
          IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE DR. ANNA LEBESCH. >> GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO JOIN YOU HERE TODAY. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND SUPPORT THE EFFORTS OF CLAY COUNTY, I TRULY APPRECIATE THAT CLAY COUNTY IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A MULTITUDE OF SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS. WHICH PRESERVE AND FOSTER PROSPERITY THAT WE ENJOY. TODAY WILL BE A GREAT CONVERSATION THAT REALLY SUPPORTS OUR CLAY COUNTY MISSION, PROVIDE FOR THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF OUR CITIZENS, THAT IS INFORMED BY OUR VISION, WHERE TRADITION MEETS INNOVATION TO FOSTER PROSPERITY AND GROUNDED IN OUR COUNTY VALUES OF ACCOUNTABILITY, INTEGRITY, COMMUNICATION AND 
          [3.  Ground Rules (A. Lebesch)]
PERFORMANCE. SO TO FACILITATE THIS PROCESS TODAY, I AM GOING TO SET SOME GROUND RULES, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES THIS IS CHALLENGING, BUT FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE PRIOR TO THIS, TO PLAN FOR THE WORKSHOP. 
          [4.  Board Goals & Objectives]
EACH OF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SHARING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CONSTITUENTS YOU SERVE YOUR TOP THREE TO FIVE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. 
          I'LL CALL ON YOU TO SHARE THESE MORE AT A HIGH LEVEL. THIS FIRST PART IS NOT A TIME TO GET DEEP INTO THE WEEDS, BUT TO SHARE MORE OF A HIGH LEVEL VIEW OF WHAT YOUR OBJECTIVES ARE. YOU'LL EACH HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR YOUR SHARING. 
          I'LL SIGNAL YOU WHEN YOU'VE REACHED THE TWO-MINUTE MARK AND THEN THE TIMER WILL GO OFF AT TEN MINUTES. SO YOU CAN HELP WRAP IT UP. ONCE YOU'VE FINISHED SHARING YOUR INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME UP AND PLACE THEM INTO ONE OF THE CATEGORIES BEHIND US. BASED ON WHERE YOU BELIEVE THEY ALIGN. 
          AND YOU WILL SEE THAT WE HAVE MAJOR PROJECTS, PLANNING AND ZONING, INFRASTRUCTURE, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND THEN AN "OTHER" CATEGORY. IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU NEED ASSISTANCE IN PUTTING THEM IN THE RIGHT AREA, WE CAN CALL UPON STAFF TO ASSIST WITH THAT. 
          THIS FIRST PART IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS REPORTING AND CATEGORIZING SO WE CAN HOLD THE DISCUSSION UNTIL THE SECOND HALF. SO IF YOU'VE CALCULATED THIS 
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OUT ALREADY, THAT MEANS THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ABOUT AN HOUR JUST TO SHARE EACH ONE OF OUR PERSPECTIVES. SO I AM GOING TO TRY TO KEEP YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO THE TIME LIMIT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, CHAIRMAN BOLLA, WE'LL HAVE YOU KICK US 
          OFF. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  OKAY. MY FIRST PRIORITY WAS ENHANCE SECURITY. AS WE TALKED TO THE PREVIOUS SHERIFFS, IT CAME OUT THAT ST. 
          JOHNS COUNTY HAS ABOUT 60 PERCENT OF THE CRIME RATE THAT WE DO HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. 
          WHEN I STARTED ASKING WHY, THE ELECTRONIC PORTION OF WHAT THE SHERIFF IS DOING WAS THE ANSWER, AT LEAST FOR TWO SHERIFFS ALREADY. SO THIS LOOKS LIKE SETTING CAMERAS UP OR COMING UP WITH A WAY TO DO THAT SO WE GEOFENCE CARS GOING IN AND OUT OF OUR COMMUNITIES. THAT MIGHT ALSO LOOK LIKE AN HOA WHO DECIDES THEY NEED MORE POLICE PRESENCE OR MORE PROTECTION EITHER FUNDING OR COMING UP WITH A WAY TO PUT A CAMERA OUT INTO THE ACCESS ROAD GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT COMMUNITY. 
          VILLAGES OF FIRESIDE IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE NOW THAT IS IN OPERATION AND HAS BEEN WORKING FOR QUITE A WHILE. SO I TALKED TO THE SHERIFF ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY AND SHE ALSO SAID THAT SHE NEEDS SOME CAMERA PRESENCE IN SOME OF OUR COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS. 
          SHE NOW HAS A CENTER THAT RECEIVES MOST OF THIS STUFF. AND WE'VE GOT THE RUDIMENTS STARTED. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING WE DO IS FIGURE OUT A WAY TO FUND SOME OF THIS SO MAYBE WHEN WE ARE DOING AN MSBU FOR THE ROAD STRUCTURE, WE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY TO ALSO FINANCE THE CAMERA SYSTEM AT THAT PARTICULAR ROAD, OF COURSE, ONLY IF THE HOA DECIDES THEY WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          THE OTHER COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH ENHANCED SECURITY WOULD BE COMING UP WITH A REAL POLICE STATION AT LEAST ONE AND PROBABLY TWO WITHIN THE COUNTY, AS WE MOVE THE ADMINISTRATIVE EFFORTS OUT OF THE JAIL TO MAKE MORE BED SPACE, WE THEN NEED TO SAY WHERE IS IT THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HANG THEIR HAT. WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A POLICE STATION PER SE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. THE STUFF WE'VE GOT FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE IN MIDDLEBURG IS AN OLD STOREFRONT. THE SHERIFF SAYS SHE'S GOT 16 BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW, NONE OF WHICH IS SUITABLE FOR A POLICE STATION. 
          SHE WOULD LOVE TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THAT STUFF. ALONG WITH THAT, WE TALKED ABOUT A NORTH AND A SOUTH PRESENCE IN THE POPULATION CENTERS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S GREAT TO BE IN GREEN COVE, BUT MOST OF THE POPULATION OF CLAY COUNTY IS A LITTLE NORTH OF HERE. AND THIS MAY ALSO FIT WITH THE WELLS ROAD PROJECT AND THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A SUBSTATION AT THE MALL OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. 
          MY NEXT AREA IS TRANSPORTATION. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BONDING PROGRAM. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THAT. PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER, I HOPE. THE LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED, WHEN I WAS HERE, WE HAD TEN MILLION DOLLARS LEFT OVER AND IT WAS KIND OF A FREE FOR ALL. WE WERE ASKING PEOPLE WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND IT. THIS TIME AROUND, I THINK WE SAY WE'RE ONLY GOING TO SPEND THIS FOR ROADS AND PLACES WHERE IT ENHANCES TRANSPORTATION. THAT WOULD BE AT LEAST MY CALL. 
          I THINK THE IDEA OF THE DATA DRIVEN PROCESS TO PICK OUR ROAD REPAVING IS PROBABLY A STELLAR IDEA. WE WILL BE ABLE TO JUST FIX SECTIONS OF ROADS WHERE IT'S REALLY BAD AND NOT HAVE TO REPAVE THE WHOLE ROAD. PROBABLY SAVE LIKE HALF THE MONEY WE'RE SPENDING ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS NOW. I SEE THAT AS A KEY THING GOING FORWARD. THE NEXT THING WOULD BE TO PARTNER WITH JTA, EXPAND THAT PARTNERSHIP. WE'VE GOT IT STARTED. WE'VE GOT A PROPOSAL FROM THEM ON THE ORDER OF ABOUT $500,000 TO BRING REAL BUS TRANSPORTATION IN TO CLAY COUNTY. JUST THINK OF WHAT IT COULD MEAN IF WE HAD A BUS RUNNING UP AND DOWN 17 AND ONE UP AND DOWN BLANDING. WE COULD TAKE MAYBE THREE PERCENT OF THE TRAFFIC OFF OF BLANDING BOULEVARD. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO WITH THAT. WE'VE GOT A COMPUTER TIMED, EXPANDED ON THE SIDES AS FAR AS IT WILL GO AND IT'S STILL A MESS. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE WE CAN DO. DIRT ROAD MITIGATION POLICY. I MEAN, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ONE, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I MEAN, WE TRY AND DO $500,000 A YEAR TO PAVE A DIRT ROAD. 
          SOMETIMES IT TAKES THREE YEARS TO FINISH ONE. SO I'M THINKING WHAT WE NEED TO 
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DO IS GET A CONSULTANT STUDY, MAYBE THE TPO CAN HELP US OUT WITH IT. 
          AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR 250 MILES OF DIRT ROADS. 
          COME UP WITH A CRITERIA FOR PAVING, MAYBE IT'S POPULATION BASED OR HOW MANY HOMES ARE ON THERE. AND ALSO LOOK AT THE MEDIUM WE'RE GOING TO PUT ON IT. 
          NOT JUST NECESSARILY ASPHALT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH MORE CREATIVE SOLUTION THAT IS COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE'RE SPENDING TO GRADE THE ROADS AT THIS POINT. 
          NUMBER THREE WOULD BE ENHANCED ADULT ACTIVITIES IN CLAY COUNTY. 
          WE ARE FIRST AND FOREMOST A BEDROOM COMMUNITY. LET'S BE REALLY GOOD AT THAT BEFORE WE STEAM OFF IN ANOTHER DIRECTION. WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY FOR SPORTS VENUES FOR OUR CHILDREN, WHICH IS A GREAT THING. BUT I WAS TOLD BY ONE BUSINESSMAN, I WAS ASKING ABOUT HIM EXPANDING HIS OPERATION HERE. 
          HE SAYS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TO DO FOR THE ADULTS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY TO ATTRACT THEM TO COME HERE. SO FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, I TALKED TO THE FOLKS WHO RUN THRASHER HORN AS TO WHY THEY DON'T PUT ON MORE HIGHER CLASS SHOWS. 
          THE RISK AVERSE, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO TAKE A BIG LOSS, HAM JAM WAS KIND OF A DISASTER THAT THEY WERE REFERRING TO. SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE EITHER AS A COUNTY UNDERWRITE SOME OF THE PERFORMANCES, MAYBE TWO OR THREE A YEAR, OR OUR TOURISM DEPARTMENT, OR WE FIND SOME SPONSORS TO BRING IN SOME REALLY HIGH CLASS ENTERTAINMENT HERE. 
          THAT WOULD ALSO FIT FOR THE BAND SHELL THAT IS GOING TO BE PUT IN AT THE MALL. 
          CLUBS AND RESTAURANTS. EVERY TIME I ASK PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHAT THEY NEED IS A GOOD RESTAURANT TO GO TO. AND PART OF THAT, THOUGH, IS THAT A REAL RESTAURANT, NOT A HAMBURGER JOINT COSTS MORE MONEY TO GO TO. SO I AM THINKING WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS COME UP WITH A WAY FOR THE COUNTY TO MAYBE I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD SUBSIDIZE, INCENTIVIZE, LET'S SAY COMMERCIAL RESTAURANTS COMING IN TO PARTS OF THE COUNTY WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE. I MEAN, WE DO THIS WITH THE SHIP PROGRAM FOR RESIDENCEAL. WHY CAN'T WE EXPAND SOMETHING LIKE FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE. 
          MAYBE WE BUY THE PROPERTY AND LEASE IT TO THEM FOR A BUCK, LIKE WE DO THE PARKS. 
          FOR INSTANCE, IN DOWNTOWN GREEN COVE, WE COULD SET UP ONE RESTAURANT LOCATION THAT FITS AND EVERYBODY AGREES AND THEN HOPEFULLY HAVE ENOUGH INCENTIVE ON THERE THAT WE GET A GOOD VENDOR TO COME IN AND ACTUALLY SET IT UP, PHASE IT OUT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS, SO THAT IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL, THEY WIN AND WE WIN. IF THEY'RE NOT, WE'LL TRY SOMEBODY ELSE. OKAY. ALONG THOSE LINES, WE'VE GOT THE GUN RANGE GOING. FISHING TOURNAMENTS. YOU KNOW, JUST TO MAKE IT MORE FUN TO BE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY I THINK IS KIND OF A DIRECTION I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US GOING. 
          FOURTH ISSUE IS ANIMAL CONTROL. WE PRESENTLY GOT AN ESTIMATED 30 TO 60,000 FERAL CATS RUNNING AROUND CLAY COUNTY. AMERICAN AUTOBAHN ESTIMATES THAT CATS KILL A BILLION BIRDS IN A YEAR. THEY HAVE NO NATURAL PREDATORS. WE'VE GOT THE SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAM RUNNING. AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS SUSPENDED. 
          I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO START IT UP AGAIN AT SOME POINT. BUT WHEN I WAS ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, I ASKED, I SAID HOW DO WE FIX THIS PROBLEM? IF WE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE SPENDING ON IT, IS THAT GOING TO DO ANY GOOD? THE ANSWER IS NO, IT DOESN'T WORK. I DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW WHAT DOES. 
          ALL I KNOW, THOUGH, IS WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. WE PRESENTLY SPEND TWO MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR RUNNING OUR ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY. AND WE ONLY SPEND $900,000 ON OUR PORTION OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.  I MEAN, THE RESOURCE ALLOCATIONS ARE KIND OF OUT OF SKEW IN MY OPINION. I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WORKS. DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M NOT ANTI-ANIMAL HERE. 
          I THINK WE NEED A NEW FACILITY. NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. BUT IS RUNNING AN ANIMAL 
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ADOPTION AGENCY ONE OF THE CORE VALUES OF THE COUNTY? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          AND THE WAY I SEE THIS, WE'VE GOT THREE PRIVATE ANIMAL OPERATIONS NOW THAT ARE ADOPTING ANIMALS OUT. MAYBE WE COULD FORM A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH ONE OR ALL OF THEM. LET'S BUILD THIS FACILITY AND LET THEM RUN IT. WE GET THE SHERIFF INVOLVED TO TAKE CARE OF THE BAD DOGS. 
          IS THAT GOD? (LAUGHTER) IS THAT WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE? OKAY. SO WE GET THE SHERIFF TO TAKE CARE OF THE BAD DOGS AND WE THEN FUND THE OPERATION PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH HOPEFULLY SAVING A FEW BUCKS BY THE PRIVATE PEOPLE RUNNING. HOW DO WE REDUCE THE SCOPE OF THE PROBLEM? WE NEED SOME POLICIES. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN OVER A YEAR. WE CAN DISCOURAGE MASS FEEDINGS, ELIMINATE THE PUPPY MILLS, WHICH WE'VE PREP RUN INTO THAT BEFORE. AND I GOT CAT LEASH LAW, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUNNY, BUT I DON'T KNOW. AND THEN TO PAY FOR SOME OF THIS, MAYBE WE CAN START A DOG AND CAT LICENSING PROGRAM. PEOPLE WHO KEEP PETS SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN HELPING TAKE CARE OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF SOME OF THESE MAYBE. 
          AND THEN MY LAST ITEM I'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE BROADBAND ROLL-OUT. 
          EVERY INFORMED VOTER IN CLAY COUNTY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO BROADBAND. 
          I SEE THIS HAPPENING GRADUALLY, NUMBER ONE, EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO 5G. 
          TWO, WE NEED FAST INTERNET IN HOMES. THREE, WE NEED WORLD CLASS INTERNET HERE AS A BUSINESS INCENTIVE FOR GETTING MORE COMMERCIAL FOLKS IN HERE. 
          I MEAN, THERE IS NO REASON THAT WE CAN'T HAVE THE BEST INTERNET IN FLORIDA IF WE REALLY WORKED AT IT. AND THEN LET THEM FUND IT THROUGH USAGE FEES. 
          WE PUT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND FOLKS WOULD USE IT THAT WAY. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY FIVE ITEMS. >> COMMEND YOU. 
          YOU ALMOST MADE IT IN TEN MINUTES. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  TINKLING WAS 
          TEN MINUTES. >> YOU HAVE YOUR STICKY NOTES IN YOUR FOLDER TO BRING THEM OVER AND PLACE THEM IN THE CATEGORIES YOU FEEL THEY MOST APPROPRIATELY ALIGN WITH. 
          >> DO WE GET ANY KIND OF GAME SHOW MUSIC OR ANYTHING? >> NEXT UP IS COMMISSIONER 
          CONDON. >> MY FIRST GOAL WAS A COMPREHENSIVE ROAD PLAN, IT WON'T BE A SURPRISE TO YOU. I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR THE 12 MONTHS THAT I'VE BEEN A COMMISSIONER. AND IT GOES INTO MORE DEPTH, YOU KNOW, AND AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH THERESA AND RICHARD, THAT IT IS MORE IN-DEPTH THAN JUST OUR ROAD EVALUATION PROGRAM, WHICH IS ONLY ONE PART OF IT. COMMISSIONER BOLLA TALKED ABOUT IT SOME WITH THE 250 MILES OF UNPAVED ROADS, WHICH ARE MOSTLY IN MY DISTRICT.  BUT NOT ALL. 
          AND THEN ALSO AN I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES A PLAN TO -- THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO, PAST COMMISSIONS HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. BUT I GET IT. 
          I GET THAT IT'S AN 800-POUND GORILLA, OR A MIX IN CLICHES, HOW DO YOU EAT THE ELEPHANT. 
          IT'S MIXED. BUT IT'S TIME TO MAKE A PLAN TO EAT THE ELEPHANT. 
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SO I THINK THAT IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT PLAYS INTO MY SECOND GOAL, AND THAT IS INFRASTRUCTURE AND STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR DEVELOPMENT. COMMISSIONER BURKE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AT THE LAST I GUESS TWO MEETINGS AND IT REALLY MADE ME START REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO GO ON, YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEHIND THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN, I GUESS MAYBE BRANNONFIELD WAS RIGHT BEFORE IT. 
          BOTH OF THESE PLANS WERE PUT INTO PLACE IN 2005, 2006. WE'RE A VERY DIFFERENT COUNTY, DIFFERENT WORLD TODAY. I DON'T KNOW THAT REALLY BACK THEN THEY THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO PLACE TO GET THERE. 
          INCLUDING ROADS. AND WORKING WITH DOT. YOU KNOW, WE ALL GOT AN E-MAIL THIS WEEK ASKING ABOUT POSSIBLE DOT PROJECTS FOR 2026. SO DOT IS PLANNING OUT TO 2026. 
          AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE CONSTITUENTS ASK ME ALL OF THE TIME HOW IN THE WORLD CAN YOU DO DEVELOPMENT ON 220 IN FRONT OF MIDDLEBURG HIGH SCHOOL WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE THAT IS EVEN WIDENED TO FOUR LANES. SO TRAFFIC, AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM. SO MY TWO KIND OF GO TOGETHER. IN ADDITION TO THAT IS, I WISH THAT CCUA WERE HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IN MY YEAR AS A COMMISSIONER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WATER AND SEWER AND WHAT CCUA'S -- WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR EXPANSION AND IS THAT REALLY WHERE WE THINK -- WHERE WE ALL THINK IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. AND YOU KNOW, OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT GETS PROJECTS PROPOSED THAT COME TO THE DRC AND WATER AND SEWER ARE PART OF THAT. AND YET, THEY AREN'T DISCUSSED BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND THEN THERE IS THE SEPTIC TO SEWER PROJECT THAT WE KIND OF TURN OUR HEAD AND IGNORE BECAUSE THERE IS NO MONEY FOR IT. BUT IT IS OUT THERE. 
          AND IT IS A PRIORITY FOR SOME OF OUR LEGISLATORS AS COMMISSIONER RENNINGER AND I HEARD AT THE LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE WITH FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES. 
          SO I THINK HAVING AN OVERALL, I REALLY GO BACK TO A PLAN, I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE AN OVERALL MASTER PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AS A COUNTY. ARE THOSE MASTER PLANS BRANNONFIELD AND LAKE ASBURY, ARE THEY STILL THE RIGHT THING, 15, 20 YEARS LATER.  I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO, MAYBE IT'S WORKSHOPS TO COME UP WITH PLANS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY IMPLEMENT THOSE PLANS, WHICH I REALIZE IT WILL BE MULTI-YEARS. AND THEN MY THIRD ONE IS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE BROADBAND SOLUTIONS. THAT WON'T BE A SHOCK TO ANY OF YOU AS WELL THAT THAT IS A 
          PRIORITY FOR ME. >> THANK YOU. YOU MADE IT WELL WITHIN YOUR 
          TIME PERIOD. >> I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOUR SETTING OF THE JINGLES. 
          THANK YOU. INTERESTING TO HEAR THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR THOUGHTS. AS YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER. 
          SO ENLIGHTENING AT THE SAME TIME, CALMING AS WELL. BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT, SOME MAYBE DIDN'T MAKE THE TOP THREE OR FOUR. 
          BUT THEY'RE IN THERE SOMEWHERE. BUT I THINK THEY'RE ALL WORKING TOWARD THE BETTER GOOD OF THE COUNTY. THIS ASSIGNMENT WAS DIFFICULT, THOUGH, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES THAT ARE PLANNED FOR IN OUR CIP, ARPA FUNDS, BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE'VE GOT NUMEROUS STUDIES PLANNED, WHICH WILL HELP US FOCUS IN PARTICULAR AREAS. FLOOD WATER, DRAINAGE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS, WE'VE GOT ON THE BOOKS. SO YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T WANT TO NEGLECT THOSE IN TERMS OF MENTIONING I STILL SUPPORT YOU KNOW, THE JAIL EXPANSION, ANIMAL CONTROL, FIRE STATIONS IN THE CIP AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THOUGHT THERE ARE SOME INITIATIVES WHICH ALL POINT TO A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN CLAY COUNTY, THAT IS WHERE I FELL WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT THE STICKY NOTES, IF YOU WILL. 
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FIRST ONE UP IS TO AMEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, I GUESS THIS WILL BE PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US ADDRESS SOME THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP SOME DURING THE LAST MONTH OR SO. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT SIZE BE INCREASED. I'M DEAD SET ON GETTING RID OF 40 FOOT FRONTS. 
          TALKED WITH DEVELOPERS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT ELIMINATION OF CLEAR-CUTTING TREES, DIFFERENT LAND SCAPING FEATURING DIFFERENT KINDS OF TREES. 
          PERHAPS DIFFERENT KINDS OF GRASSES, ALL LOOKING AT MAYBE CONSERVING IN TERMS OF WATER AND IN TERMS OF MAKING TREES A LITTLE BIT MORE PREVALENT. LARGER SETBACKS, TO ACCOMMODATE MORE PARKING IN DRIVEWAYS. SO CARS AREN'T TOO BACK TO BACK IN A DRIVEWAY, EXTENDING THE SIDEWALK, INTO THE STREET. ALSO, ELIMINATE MOBILITY FEES FOR OUR SUBSIDIES FOR NON-TARGETED COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. BECAUSE WE ARE SUBSIDIZING MOBILITY FEES FOR ALL BUSINESSES. SO SOME OF THOSE MAYBE WE CAN INCREASE SUBSIDIES ON IF WE SAVE MONIES. THAT GOES TO SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WETLANDS CREDITS, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF DENSITY AND HOW DEVELOPERS USE THOSE WETLANDS AND YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH BUILDING ON A PLOT OF LAND THAT HAS WETLANDS AND MOVING WATER AROUND THAT DOESN'T EVER SEEM TO WORK. HATS OFF TO THE ENGINEERING CREW, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO WORK THE WAY WE WANT IT TO. THERE IS PROBABLY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'VE HEARD IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PUT VARIOUS KINDS OF WORKFORCE HOUSING AND APARTMENTS INCENTIVIZING 55 PLUS COMMUNITIES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AMEND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND WORK WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          SECOND ONE IS TO STUDY AND DEVELOP A LAND CONSERVATION PLAN. 
          NO BETTER TIME THAN THIS PARTICULAR TIME TO GO AFTER LAND THAT STAYS AS A GREENWAY, PARTICULARLY WATERFRONT PROPERTY, IF THERE IS ANY AVAILABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH. WE ALSO SHOULD CATEGORIZE COUNTY LANDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE. I MEAN, THE COUNTY HAS A HUGE NUMBER OF PARCELS THAT WE OWN AND STUDY POTENTIALLY LIQUIDATION OR TRADING OF THOSE PROPERTIES, IF WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE COUNTY'S BENEFIT IN TERMS OF GETTING CLOSER TO WATERFRONT PROPERTY OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. IT WOULD BE NICE TO LOOK AND SEE AND USE IT AS AN ASSET TO BENEFIT THE TAXPAYERS. AMEND ANIMAL SERVICES ORDINANCES, AHEAD OF BUILDING A NEW SHELTER, WHICH WE HAVE IN CIP. I KNOW IT'S IN PROCESS. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON DANGEROUS ANIMALS ORDINANCES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TOUGHER PET CRUELTY ORDINANCES. I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE TO SHUT DOWN ILLEGAL PUPPY MILLS AND CERTIFY LEGAL ONES. MAKE THEM ACTUALLY REGISTER WITH US. 
          I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A LOT. BUT I WOULD CERTIFY PET STORES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT BUYING PUPPY MILL DOGS TO BE OFFERED FOR SALE. I KNOW ORANGE COUNTY JUST DID SHUT DOWN PET STORES. CERTAINLY THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO WORK ON IT. 
          I PUT DOWN T&R PROGRAM. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS PRIOR TO US BUILDING A BUILDING. SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD SAY, AMENDING ANIMAL SERVICE ORDINANCES. NUMBER FOUR, INCREASE THE ACCESS TO WATERWAYS FOR OUR PUBLIC. AND IMPROVE THE NUMBER OF BOAT RAMPS AS WELL, IN TERMS OF IMPROVE THE ONES WE DO HAVE AND EXPAND. THAT SEEMS TO BE AN AREA THAT IS REALLY GROWING. FOLKS WANT TO ACCESS TO THE RIVER AND CREEK. 
          WHY NOT. BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY AT THIS POINT TO DO THAT. INCREASING THE ACCESS, PERHAPS THROUGH ACQUISITION LAND OR MAYBE EVEN PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF BUILDER DEVELOPERS TALK TO ME ABOUT POSSIBLY EXCHANGING LAND OR MAYBE AS PART OF THEIR NEXT DEVELOPMENT GIVING THE COUNTY SOME LAND TO BE ABLE TO PUT A BOAT RAMP IN OR TO DO SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE WATER. AND SO THAT WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR, INCREASING OUR ACCESS TO PUBLIC WATERWAYS AND ALSO EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF BOAT RAMPS. AND THE LAST ONE WOULD BE WHAT I CALL CLEAN UP CLAY. 
          KEEP CLAY BEAUTIFUL HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS. TARGET COMMERCIAL DUMPING. 
          PICKING UP LITTER. EVIDENCE OF SUBSTANCE LIKE NEEDLES, EDUCATE OUR BUSINESSES ABOUT KEEPING THEIR DUMPSTER AREAS CLEAN. A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE A 
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DUMPSTER THAT IS OVERFLOWING. HEALTH PROBLEM CERTAINLY. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PARTNERS THAT CAN BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SCHOOL BOARD, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, OUR WASTE HAULER, CERTAINLY IN-HOUSE SOCIAL MEDIA AND PUBLIC INFORMATION. 
          AND AS PART OF THAT, ALSO MOVE FORWARD WITH FIGURING OUT WHAT WE DO WANT TO DO IN THE LONG-TERM IN TERMS OF UNIVERSAL COLLECTION OF THE MAINSTREAM GARBAGE HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          WHO IS GOING TO BE OUR WASTE HAULING AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH RECYCLING. 
          THAT IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR SITUATION IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO WITH THAT. 
          DO WE CONTINUE WITH THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, TEMPORARILY, HAVING FOLKS BRING THEIR OWN RECYCLING DOWN. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN A DIFFERNT DIRECTION WITH THAT, IF WE PUT OUT WASTE HAULING FOR RFP. I THINK WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A LONG-TERM SOLUTION. IT'S A HEALTH SITUATION AND EMOTIONAL SITUATION HERE IN THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF WASTE HAULING. THAT WOULD BE MY FIFTH ONE. 
          SO AMEND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, STUDY AND DEVELOPMENT LAND CONSERVATION PLAN, AMEND ANIMAL SERVICE ORDINANCES, INCREASE OUR ACCESS TO PUBLIC WATERWAYS. EXPAND THE NUMBER OF BOAT RAMPS. CLEAN UP CLAY. SO YOU DON'T NEED TO PLAY THE 
          JINGLE. >> I DON'T. YOU MADE IT BEFORE THE JINGLE 
          PLAY. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  NEXT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY. IT'S AMAZING AS YOU SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO OTHER COMMENTS AS COMMISSIONER CELLA ALLUDED TO, WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER UNTIL WE'RE IN PUBLIC FORUM, IN THE DAYLIGHT HERE, SUNSHINE. BUT NONETHELESS, IT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT, THIS EFFORT TODAY IS TO LOOK IN THE NEAR TERM. WHAT CAN WE DO 2022, THIS YEAR. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT A LONG-TERM PERSPECTIVE. AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU A FEW, OR REFER TO A FEW FACTS THAT I'VE READ IN THE PAPER. I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE FACTS. 
          AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE MEDIUM PRICE OF A HOME IN CLAY COUNTY IS $310,000. 
          WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A NEW TEACHER, FIREFIGHTER, NEW POLICE OFFICER, ANYBODY, HOW COULD YOU AFFORD A $310,000 HOME WHEN YOU STARTED OUT YOUR CAREER. 
          WE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NATIONWIDE, THE LAST TIME I CHECKED WE'RE IN THE NATION. SO IT EXISTS HERE IN CLAY COUNTY. 
          AUTOMOBILES, TRANSPORTATION, YOU KNOW, BUILD BACK BETTER PLAN COMING OUT WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLE SUBSIDIES. ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE ABOUT 30 PERCENT HIGHER COST-WISE THAN A REGULAR ICE VEHICLE. THERE IS AN ARTICLE IN LAST WEEK'S PAPER THAT ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT TRANSPORTATION VIA PRIVATE VEHICLE MAY BE OUT OF REACH FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS IN THE FUTURE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I'M A POSITIVE PERSON AND I KNOW TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE BATTERIES CHEAPER, ELECTRIC VEHICLES CHEAPER, BUT NONETHELESS, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT, THEY'RE COMING. 
          IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE GAS TAX, GUESS WHAT WE USE GAS TAX FOR. 
          WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE FUTURE. BROADBAND, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE NATIONAL EFFORT GOING ON. 
          WE HAVE STATE EFFORT GOING ON. WE HAVE COUNTY EFFORT GOING ON. AND HOPEFULLY FAC I THINK IS TRYING TO PUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER IN A COHERENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, BROADBAND, YOU KNOW, 
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IT'S GOING TO BECOME MORE PREVALENT, MORE ESSENTIAL TO THE ECONOMIC PRODUCTIVITY OF OUR COUNTY IN THE FUTURE. SO HOPEFULLY -- BUT THOSE ARE BIG POINTS. 
          BUT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT NEXT YEAR AND SO I FOCUSED ON KIND OF ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY THE ELECTORATE. I'M GOING TO TALK GATEWAY TO CLAY. 
          I MEAN WE'VE HAD TWO MURDERS WITHIN THAT AREA IN THE LAST 6 MONTHS. 
          WE'VE HAD AN ARMED ROBBERY. WE'VE HAD A BOMB THREAT. SO IT'S A REAL PROBLEMATIC. 
          WE HAVE HOMELESS ISSUES UP THERE. IT IS A REAL FOCAL POINT THAT WE NEED TO EXERCISE SOME EFFORTS AGAINST IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. 
          WHETHER CRA IS THE ANSWER. YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY BLIGHT. NOBODY LIKES TO HEAR THAT WORD IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT IT IS REAL AND IT'S A SUBJECTIVE DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT CONSTITUTES BLIGHT AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. ORDINANCES. 
          WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL -- WELL, THIS GETS INTO QUALITY OF LIFE. NUISANCE ORDINANCE. 
          WE HAVE A NUISANCE ORDINANCE I THINK, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE REAL ISSUES. 
          WE'VE HAD SEVERAL -- NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO A PROBLEMATIC PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT PROBLEMATIC PROPERTY MAY BE VISUAL, BIOLOGICAL, ACOUSTIC, NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE THEIR RESIDENCE, THEIR HOME, THE MOST COSTLY EXPENSE IN THEIR WHOLE LIFE SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE NEXT TO AN ISSUE THAT IS PERSISTING. EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, YEAH, YOUR NEIGHBOR CRANKS UP THE AMPLIFIER AND PLAYS MUSIC TOO LOUD. 
          WE HAVE NO WAY TO ADDRESS IT. WE HAVE A VULGAR SALES TENT OR I GUESS IT'S A TENT, UP ON 17. 
          WE JUST CAN'T GET RID OF. I MEAN, WE VIOLATED THEM. THEY THUMB THEIR NOSES AT US AND THEY KEEP ON TRUCKING. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. SO I'VE PROPOSED A NUISANCE ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IN A MORE STERN WAY WITH PROPERTY OWNERS THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THAT IN ORANGE PARK, ORANGE PARK TOWN MANAGER IS HERE, SHE CAN RELATE TO THAT. BUT WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS. 
          WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHO DOES WHAT IN THE COUNTY. YOU CAN JUST ABOUT DO ANYTHING IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU WANT AS PER SPECIAL EVENTS. MOST OF IT'S GOOD. 
          EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE GET A BAD ACTOR. SO WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. BUSINESSES IN CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO IS SERVING OUR CONSTITUENTS. ARE THE ROOFERS CERTIFIED. ARE THE WINDOW REPLACEMENT COMPANIES REPUTABLE? YOU KNOW, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE SOME COVID-19 RAPID TEST KITS FOR NURSING HOMES, ASSISTED LIVING CENTERS. AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA IN THE COMMUNITY WHO IS SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I GUESS WE DO, BUT IT'S VAGUE, IT'S NOT EXACT. SO I'M PROPOSING CATALOGING BUSINESSES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, SETTING STANDARDS. DO YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, I CAN REPAIR A CAR. 
          I KNOW HOW TO REPAIR A CAR. BUT I'M NOT ASE CERTIFIED. I THINK A BUSINESS OUGHT TO BE KNOWN AND CATALOGED WITH ASE CERTIFIED MECHANICS. INSTEAD OF GUYS LIKE ME WHO SAY YEAH, I CAN CHANGE YOUR WATER PUMP. BUSINESS CATALOG. 
          TREE ORDINANCES. I'M A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK, AT A CONDOMINIUM, WITH THEY CALL THEM CENTURY OAKS I THINK. BUT THESE OAK TREES ARE 200, 250 YEARS OLD. AND THERE IS NO -- IN THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK, WE HAVE A TREE ORDINANCE. BUT IN THE COUNTY, WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO OUR ENVIRONMENT AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD. SO YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD IT HUNDREDS OF TIMES, CLEAR-CUTTING. IT'S HORRIBLE TO SEE ALL OF THESE LONG-TERM TREES, AGED TREES JUST BEING CLEAR-CUT TO MAKE IT EASIER. I KNOW WHY THEY DO IT, TO MAKE 
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IT EASY TO DEVELOP IT. AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE SOME KIND OF CONTROL OVER THAT. 
          SOME KIND OF SAY AS TO WHAT IS -- HOW WE WANT THE COUNTY TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE. 
          THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP. BUT I THINK WE'LL DO THAT IN THE DISCUSSION. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M WELL WITHIN MY TEN MINUTES. 
          >> YOU ARE. >> THE OTHER THING IS WE -- YOU KNOW, I HOPE NOBODY GETS THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING IN THE COUNTY. AS COMMISSIONER CELLA SPOKE TO, WE HAVE A LOT OF ONGOING PROJECTS ADDRESSING ISSUES IN THE COUNTY. 
          THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE THINK OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED IN ADDITION TO THOSE. 
          COMMISSIONER BURKE. >> THANK YOU. I DID HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE VULGAR VENDOR. I HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH THE MAN WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY, I GUESS HE SAYS THE LATER GAVE HIM UNTIL JANUARY 10TH TO MOVE. HE TOLD ME YESTERDAY HE WAS GOING TO MOVE TODAY OR TOMORROW. EVIDENTLY HE HAS CHANGED HIS MIND. MY FIRST ONE WOULD BE CORRECTING LOOP HOLES IN THE COUNTY POLICY RELATING TO PLANNING AND ZONING. LET'S SAY A DEVELOPER COMES AND SUBMITS FOR A ZONING CHANGE. THE BOARD'S APPROVAL IS BASED ON THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME. IN MOST CASES THIS LAND SALE IS CONTINGENT ON THE LAND USE OR ZONING CHANGE FROM THE COMMITTEE. THIS LAND MAY SIT THERE FOR YEARS TO COME WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE OF THE DEVELOPER'S PLANS WITH NO MONETARY PENALTY, THE DEVELOPER WILL COME BACK YEARS LATER AND REQUEST TO CHANGE THE MASTER PLAN. 
          BY CHANGING THE MASTER PLAN, THE COUNTY IS THEN OPENED UP FOR THREATS OF LAWSUIT FOR CONSIDERATION IF FUTURE CHANGES ARE IMPLEMENTED IN OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THESE KIND OF THINGS. WE NEED TO CORRECT THAT LOOPHOLE. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE WORRIED THAT WE'RE GETTING TRICKED. 
          THAT IS WHAT I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF TIMES IS HAPPENING. AND ANOTHER PART OF THAT IS THE COUNTY HAS NO DEFINITION OF WIDTH OR DEPTH OR SIZE OF ANY RETENTION POND, WASTE WATER MANAGEMENT POND, OPENING UP THE POSSIBILITY OF DEVELOPER SUBMITTING PLANS FOR A SUBDIVISION. THIS HAS HAPPENED IN OUR COUNTY. 
          THE BCC SAID NO.  AND THE GIRL SCOUT CAMP WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO HAPPEN AND THE BORROW PIT. 
          AGAIN, I MEAN, THESE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE COMING HERE, WHOEVER IS WORKING FOR THESE DEVELOPERS, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY THAT WE ARE GETTING TRICKED AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET DUBBED LIKE THAT. SO THAT HAS TO BE LOOKED AT. I WOULD LIKE TO FACILITATE THE CREATION OF THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS THAT STEVE KENNEDY AND VAN SPOKE ABOUT. 
          AND SUPPORT OUR SURROUNDING AREAS. STARTING WITH GREEN COVE. 
          DEFINITELY A GATEWAY OF OUR COUNTY. KEYSTONE ALREADY HAS THESE. 
          GREEN COVE IS COUNTY SEAT, SO WE NEED TO BE WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR CITY AND SUPPORT THEM NOW AS THE GROWTH CONTINUES AND TALKING ABOUT RESTAURANTS AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE FROM AROUND OUR COUNTY WOULD LOVE TO COME. THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH SPACE FOR PARKING AND WHATEVER THE SMALL AREAS THAT WE HAVE, RESTAURANTS, WE NEED MORE OF THOSE AREAS. 
          AND THIS WILL BENEFIT NOT ONLY GREEN COVE SPRINGS BUT THE RESIDENTS LIVING HERE NOW IN THE FUTURE. GREEN COVE CANNOT DO IT ALONE. I ASK THAT WE LOOK INTO THAT. 
          ALSO LOOKING INTO THE GATEWAY, AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT GOVERNOR'S CREEK BOAT RAMP, I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT. EYESORE FOR OVER 20,000 PEOPLE THAT COME THROUGH EVERY DAY. 
          WE CAN DO MUCH BETTER IN THE PRESENTATION. IF WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE 
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CITY, THEY SAID THEY WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER. 
          THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A MAJOR GOAL FOR THE COUNTY. THE NEXT TWO WOULD TO ME SEEMS LIKE WHAT WILL BRING ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO OUR COUNTY, FEES FROM MITIGATING WETLANDS SHOULD BE HIGHER AND NO NEW DEVELOPMENT IN FLOOD ZONES, ESPECIALLY ALONG BLACK CREEK AREA, WHICH WILL CAUSE THE COUNTY, MITIGATING WETLANDS, I HEAR IS COSTLY TO THE COUNTY. 
          IMPLEMENTING ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEE TO BENEFIT SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND FIRE/RESCUE. 
          I THINK WE DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT LAG BEHIND ON GETTING THAT HAPPENING FOR OUR PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTY AND FOR OUR SAFETY, AND THEIR SAFETY. I THINK THAT IS IT. 
          I JUST READ FAST. THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENED. >> THANK YOU. 
          AND NOW HOWARD. >> OKAY. JUST WANT TO THANK THE CHAIRMAN ALLOWING MY COMMENTS HERE DURING THIS WORKSHOP ALONG WITH THE STAFF'S. 
          WE MET AND CAME UP WITH A TOP THREE. THE FIRST THING REALLY IS TO FOCUS ON OUR MOST VALUED ASSETS. THAT IS OUR TEAM MEMBERS, THE WORK HERE IN THE COUNTY, PROVIDE THESE SERVICES ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          AND THERE ARE THREE -- THIS IS THREE-PRONGED, CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE SUCCESS PLAN THAT WE HAVE ENACTED HERE AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AND CONTINUE THAT DOWN. 
          FURTHER DEVELOP OUR TRAINING PLAN AND IMPLEMENT THIS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AT ALL LEVELS THROUGH ALL DEPARTMENTS. AND CONTINUE TO ADDRESS RETENTION, NOT ONLY THROUGH PAY, BUT ALSO QUALITY OF LIFE AND THOSE HUMAN FACTORS AND HR FACTORS THAT ARE THERE. 
          NUMBER TWO, WE HAVE QUITE A LONG LIST OF STUDIES, CODES AND PLANS THAT WE HAVE PROCEEDED FORWARD WITH AS BASED UPON LAST YEAR'S INPUT FOR THE BUDGET AND THAT. 
          SO I'LL JUST READ THE SIX THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ONGOING IN SOME SORT OF STAGE HERE, FACILITIES NEED STUDY AND IMPACT FEE STUDY, A TRANSIT STUDY, AS WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. THE SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING STUDY WAS ALSO KIND OF MENTIONED ALSO IN THERE. PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT STUDY. A STORMWATER STUDY. 
          I GOT YOU COVERED THERE, COMMISSIONER RENNINGER, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT BRIEFLY BUT DIDN'T HAVE THE STICKER FOR IT. AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISION AND CONSERVATION PLAN CREATION. THOSE ARE SIX STUDIES, CODES AND PLANS THAT THE STAFF IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND MOVING FORWARD WITH. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ON ONE OF MY STICKIES HERE. THE FINAL THING WAS TO EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY EXECUTE THE BUDGET CIP AND ARPA. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH NOT ONLY TO START US OFF WITH DURING COVID WAS CARES ACT, BUT FOLLOWED SUIT WITH A FIVE-YEAR PLAN WITH CIP AND ARPA FUNDING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT WAS UNPRECEDENTED TO COME UP WITH A COUNTY BUDGET, BASED ON A FIVE-YEAR PLAN ALSO. I HAVE MANY SLIDES TO TALK ABOUT THOSE PROJECTS. I'LL SAVE ACCORDING TO TIME, BUT I DO HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE TO BRING UP SHOULD THE BOARD LIKE TO VIEW THOSE AND TALK THROUGH THOSE. 
          THOSE WERE MY THREE. >> WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. 
          THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE. IT CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE 
          [5.  Discussion / Prioritization / Consensus (A. Lebesch)]
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CLUSTERING, PARTICULARLY AROUND POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, THOUGH, IS THERE ANY THAT WE FEEL LIKE ARE NECESSARY TO MOVE? I THINK I SAW THAT WE MIGHT HAVE BROADBAND IN TWO DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. 
          WE HAVE IT UNDER INFRA INFRASTRUCTURE, UNDER MAJOR PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THAT IS WHERE IT IS. SO CAN WE SPEAK TO THAT IN TERMS OF PLANS EXISTING PLANS? 
          >> I THINK WITH THAT, IT'S ALMOST ONE WHERE WE'RE THINKING OUT OF THE BOX, IT WOULD COVER THOSE TWO MAJOR AREAS PERHAPS. ONE AS THIS DEVELOPS AT ALL LEVELS FOR ACCESS 67 IS THE EXAMPLE, AS COMMISSIONER CONDON BELONGS TO, DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THAT. AND THEN WE LOOK AT IT AS A MAJOR PROJECT, BUT IT IS GOING TO COST QUITE A LOT OF MONEY TO GET US THERE. 
          AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THAT FUNDING THAT IS OUT THERE FOR US TO CAPITALIZE ON IT. 
          >> I THINK IT COULD BE TWO-FOLD, MR. COUNTY MANAGER, BECAUSE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE I THINK IT WAS FIVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF -- SO ONE PART OF IT WAS GETTING ACCESS TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNSERVED OR UNDER-SERVED BUT THEN THERE WAS THAT LAGGING ONE OF REQUIRING IT IN OUR -- THAT WOULD BE UNDER INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRING IT WHEN THEY DIG FOR NEW SUBDIVISIONS REQUIRING THAT THEY LAY THE FIBER FOR THAT. SO IT KIND OF FALLS INTO MULTIPLE -- I THINK COMMISSIONER BOLLA HAS TALKED AT TIMES ABOUT COMPETITION. 
          SO EVEN SOME OF OUR COUNTY THAT HAS GOOD INTERNET SERVICE HAS ONLY ONE OPTION. 
          SO IT KIND OF FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT GOES FURTHER THAN JUST PROVIDING 
          ACCESS TO MY FOCUS IS THE UNSERVED AND UNDER-SERVED. >> YEAH. 
          I WOULD CALL THAT A PIECE OF LOW HANGING FRUIT. I THINK WE'VE GOT AT LEAST THREE OF US INTERESTED IN SEEING THE BROADBAND THING DEVELOPED. 
          IF I'M NOT OFF BASE HERE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL PROBABLY WANT TO 
          WORKSHOP AND COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR IN THE FUTURE. >> I THINK JUST TO POINT OUT, WE HAVE AN RFP OUT. YES, SIR. SO ONCE THE RFP COMES BACK. 
          >> IT'S BACK. >> IT CAME BACK TODAY, AS A MATTER OF FACT. 
          SO BASED UPON THAT, THAT IS PERFECT TIMING ON THAT ONE. SO WE'RE FORTUNATE ON IT. 
          SO LOOKING AHEAD HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, THROUGH THE HOLIDAY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME 
          BACK TO THE BOARD AND BRIEF THAT. >> SORRY. 
          I'VE DONE A FEW MOVING AROUND OVER HERE AS WELL. BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION COMPREHENSIVE ROAD PLAN AND WE'VE GOT OF GOT IN BETWEEN POLICY AND PROCEDURES AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL. SO AGAIN, WE ARE THINKING A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE BOXES WE'VE CREATED. BUT THEY DO CROSS-OVER INTO MULTIPLE AREAS. WE SEEM TO HAVE A LOT STILL HERE UNDER POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, WE'VE GOT THE STUDIES OF CODES AND PLANS, WHICH YOU KNOW, I THINK IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IS GOING TO HELP US IN TERMS OF THE VARIOUS POLICIES AND PROCEDURES I THINK EVERYONE IS DISCUSSING HERE. WE'VE GOT THE LAND CONSERVATION PLAN AS WELL. 
          I'M TRYING TO PUT THESE A LITTLE BIT TOGETHER. ORDINANCES THERE. 
          AND YOU TELL ME IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE THESE ARE ALL LANDING TOGETHER. 
          BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE WHERE WE'RE CLUSTERING AROUND. THOUGHTS? 
          COMMENTS? >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF A LAND INVENTORY. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOGICAL PLACE TO START. FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE. 
          THE OLD CLASSIC CONSULTING THING, WHERE ARE YOU, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO AND HOW DO YOU GET THERE. BUT WHERE WE ARE IS IMPORTANT I THINK. 
          THAT DOESN'T COST A TON OF MONEY TO DO. AT LEAST WE'LL SEE IF IT'S A 
          REAL ISSUE OR NOT. >> ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GO INTO PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE AND PUT IN CLAY COUNTY AND EVERY PIECE OF PROPERTY OWNED SHOWS UP. 
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          IT'S PRETTY EASY TO FIGURE OUT. >> WE MAKE IT. THAT IS WHAT WE DO. 
          >> OTHER COMMENTS? OTHER AREAS THAT YOU FEEL LIKE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED A LITTLE 
          FURTHER? >> IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'VE GOT AGREEMENT ON THE CLEAR-CUTTING ISSUE, LANDSCAPING, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE QUANTIFY THAT, IF THAT IS PART OF THE LAND, WHATEVER WE CALLED IT, THE REJIGGERING OF OUR CODES AND STUFF. 
          BUT I SEE THAT AS SOMETHING, I'VE HEARD THREE COMMISSIONERS TALK ABOUT THAT, I THINK. 
          >> ADULT ACTIVITIES FITS INTO A LOT OF CATEGORIES.  RESTAURANTS AND MAKING AREAS REVIVED AND BRINGING IN MORE COMMERCIAL, AS WELL AS THE BOAT RAMP DEAL. I ACTUALLY HAD THAT AS ONE OF MY GOALS, BUT I ERASED IT BECAUSE YOU ALREADY SAID IT. TWO OF Y'ALL ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT. SO HAVING MORE ACTIVITIES FOR ADULTS AND TO BRING MORE PEOPLE YOU KNOW, MAKE PEOPLE HAPPIER AND MORE EXCITED TO BE HERE IN OUR COUNTY. 
          I THINK THREE OF US ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THE SAME THING. >> I'M GOING TO PIPE IN ON THIS SUBJECT. THERE ARE MORE ACTIVITIES IN THE COUNTY THAN WHAT THE COUNTY PROVIDES. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. 
          SHEPHERD CENTER UP IN ORANGE PARK PROVIDES A VIBRANT SENIORS PROGRAM. 
          HAS 70 PEOPLE A WEEK ATTENDING. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY KNOW ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT IS ONE. I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHERS. SO ONCE AGAIN, CATALOGING WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN THE COUNTY FOR CONST CONSTITUENTS. 
          MAKE IT VISIBLE, AVAILABLE. I'M NOT SURE THE COUNTY HAS TO DO, I'M NOT CONVINCED WE NEED 
          TO OPEN A RESTAURANT FOR SENIORS. >> TIME'S UP. 
          >> I FORGOT THE TIMER WAS ON. IT WORKED. I LIKE THAT. 
          CONTINUE. THE TIMER. >> THAT'S OKAY. 
          I'M JUST RANDOM THOUGHTS HERE. NOT SO RANDOM. >> IN REGARDS TO THAT, CALL IT ADULT RECREATION, AS OPPOSED TO ADULT ACTIVITIES, I'M NOT COMPLETELY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PARTICULAR TERM. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK GOVERNMENT DOES BEAR SOME RESPONSIBILITY IN CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT FOR WHAT THOSE BUSINESSES WILL BRING -- I MEAN, SOUTHSIDE, THEY'VE GOT TENSILTOWN. OCCURRED BECAUSE SOMEBODY STARTED A RESTAURANT THERE. THEY PUT THAT TOGETHER AND MARKETED THAT. 
          SO THAT BECAME THAT KIND OF -- I THINK TO SOME EXTENT, I THINK GOVERNMENT DOESN'T CREATE IT. 
          BUT IT DOES FOSTER THE ENVIRONMENT SO THAT IT WELCOMES IT AND ENCOURAGES IT AND SPOTLIGHTS IT SO THAT PEOPLE WILL GO THERE. I MEAN, I KNOW CCDA IS TRYING TO DO THAT ON COLLEGE DRIVE, THEY BOUGHT HALF A DOZEN PARCELS, AND NOW THEY'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT UTILITIES GO IN AND THAT IS SET UP FOR SOMEBODY TO COME AND DO SOMETHING, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE. IT MAY BE WHERE WE ENCOURAGE THROUGH MOBILITY FEES, MAYBE ENCOURAGE A CERTAIN KIND OF BUSINESS THAT WE WANT TO BE HERE, AND NOT SO MUCH ENCOURAGE OTHER BUSINESSES BY NOT SUBSIDIZING AS MUCH AS WE DO AT THE CURRENT TIME. I AGREE WITH YOU, GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL. 
          BUT WE BEAR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT SO THAT THING HAPPENS. 
          BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ON ITS OWN, UNLESS YOU'RE FORTUNATE TO GET A 
          DEVELOPER AND SPENDS HIS OR HER OWN MONEY TO DO THAT. >> CRA PROMOTES THAT SAME 
          CONCEPT. >> SOME AREAS WE'VE GOT TO DEPEND ON YOU KNOW, PRIVATE 
          ENTERPRISE TO DO THAT. >> BUT YOU KNOW, IT BRINGS TO MIND OUR TOURISM DOLLARS YOU KNOW THAT WE -- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I TALK ABOUT TOURISM OUT AND ABOUT. 
          AND PEOPLE SAY WELL, WHAT IS THERE TO DO IN CLAY COUNTY, IF I COME AND USE THE WATERWAYS, USE KAYAK OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS, PEOPLE GET THAT. OR EVENTS THAT IS A SPECIFIC EVENT TO BRING PEOPLE HERE. BUT THEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THERE TO DO AT NIGHT. 
          WHERE IS THERE TO SHOP AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. SO I THINK THAT IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT, MAKE A PLAN TO YOU KNOW, KIND OF FOCUS ON SOME OF THOSE, EVEN IF IT'S MULTIPLE, 
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YOU KNOW, AREAS. AND THEN THE OTHER THOUGHT THAT I HAD, SO I THINK I KIND OF HALF HEARTEDLY JOKED A FEW MEETINGS AGO THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD COME UP WITH A FOCUS PROJECT IN EACH DISTRICT. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT I REALLY MEAN IT JOKINGLY NOW. 
          WE HAVE THE GATEWAY TO CLAY IN COMMISSIONER RENNINGER'S DISTRICT, COLLEGE DRIVE? 
          >> MY DISTRICT NOW. >> THE REDISTRICTING LINES BETWEEN YOUR TWO DISTRICTS, I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH. YOU HAVE THE NOW COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE. 
          IF WE DID GREEN COVE CRA, WE COULD START WITH THREE OR WHATEVER. 
          BUT THEN THE COMMUNITY KNOWS THAT THESE ARE KIND OF WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING FOR RIGHT NOW OR 
          WHATEVER. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD THOUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND CONCENTRATE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          BECAUSE THAT ALSO ALLOWS US THEN TO FOCUS INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER THINGS TO HELP WITH 
          THAT. >> BRINGS US BACK TO THE BASIC PLAN AGAIN, WHERE DO WE WANT THIS STUFF TO HAPPEN. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING IN EVERY DISTRICT. 
          HOWEVER, LET'S GET ONE THAT WORKS SOME PLACE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE GO TO FAR WITH IT. 
          BUT I HEAR O FAR WITH IT. BUT I HEAR YOU. >> THAT TIES IN WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, A PLAN FOR THE COUNTY. WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING WE APPROVED THE MINI STORAGE LOCATION BEHIND THE HAMPTON INN IN MY DISTRICT, BRANNON FIELD, AT THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. THAT IS A COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          THAT IS OUR INTENDED SHOPPING AREA. THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL IN THERE OR MAYBE EVENTUALLY THERE WILL BE MULTIFAMILY SOMETHING. THAT IS THE INTENTION OF THAT. 
          LOOKING AT THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, DO WE HAVE THOSE OTHER CENTERS OR DO WE WANT TO DRIVE BACK INTO OUR CITY OR MUNICIPALITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW. IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE, IT FEELS LIKE THERE IS NOT THAT OVERALL PLAN THAT YOU CAN POINT BACK TO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS IS WHERE THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AND THIS IS WHERE THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. SO THEN WE END UP WITH LANDOWNERS WHO HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SELL THEIR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, I JOKED THAT FARMER'S 401(K) IS SELLING THEIR PROPERTY. THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO THAT BUT NOT TO PUT ANYTHING THERE THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE. NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AROUND AND THE NEIGHBORS. 
          >> SHOULD WE TALK A LITTLE ABOUT THE STUDIES PLANNED? >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> YEAH. WHEN I HEAR THESE, I LOOK AT TWO MAJOR ONES, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REVISION AND THE CONSERVATION CODE, THAT IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT AND HAS BEEN PART OF WHAT IS DISCUSSED HERE. ALSO THE FACILITIES NEEDS STUDY AND IMPACT FEES STUDY. ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, BRIEFLY JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE JAIL, BUT FACILITIES IN GENERAL ACROSS THE BOARD AS WE'RE GROWING AND TO TACKLE THOSE. I KNOW, COMMISSIONER BOLLA ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT WITHIN THE OAKLEAF AREA AND HAVING A LIBRARY OR COMMUNITY CENTER UP IN THAT AREA. 
          FACILITIES NEED, IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED BY COMMISSIONER BOLLA ABOUT LIKE HOW WE HAVE A NORTH AND A SOUTH ZONE FOR THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THAT. I THINK REALLY WHAT THOSE TWO STUDIES THERE, ONE IS THE REVISION IN THE PLAN, THE OTHER TWO STUDIES FOR FACILITIES IMPACT, I THINK DURING THIS YEAR WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING ON THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR AND HOPEFULLY COME TO FRUITION OR DIRECTION. THESE ARE NOT EASY MUSCLE MOVERS, AS I SAY, ON BOTH OF THOSE. THE PROJECTION WOULD BE SOME TIME COMPLETION BY THE END OF 2023 FOR BOTH OF THOSE, AS WE LOOK AT IT. 
          SO THAT REALLY KIND OF OPENS THAT UP. OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. 
          I DEFINITELY HAVE BROADBAND IS SOMETHING TO PURSUE FOR 2022 HERE. 
          AND I THINK ALL OF THE PIECES ARE COMING TOGETHER. TROY AND I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE THIS TOO, WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE. IT STARTED WITH CARES, THROUGH THE BUDGETS THAT WE'VE HAD, CIP AND NORMAL BUDGET AND ARPA. WE'RE REALLY SETTING THE STAGE HERE. SOME THINGS THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IS WORK DAY AND OUR BACKBONE FOR US TO DO THINGS MORE EFFICIENTLY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, FROM AN HR STANDPOINT, FINANCE STANDPOINT, FROM A PURCHASING STANDPOINT AND TRACKING, THAT 
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IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY DON'T TALK ABOUT, THE BOARD APPROVED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. AND I THINK WE GO LIVE ON THAT DECEMBER 23RD, I THINK YOU WILL START TO SEE MORE AND MORE BENEFITS OF THAT. SO JUST ANOTHER KIND OF COMMENT. BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE ONES THAT CROSSOVER MULTIPLE AREAS HERE, MAYBE YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE AREAS TO LOOK AT AND WHERE THEY SHARE AND THEY SHARE SYNERGY, NOT ONLY BETWEEN DISTRICTS AND COMMISSIONERS, BUT ALSO FOR US TO EXECUTE AT THE STAFF LEVEL FOR THIS NEXT YEAR. JUST ANOTHER COMMENT ON IT. 
          SO BACK OVER TO YOU, ANNA, WORKING MAGIC OF FINDING THE NEXT ONE WHERE IT KIND OF 
          CROSSES OVER. >> WELL, WE'VE GOT THE BROADBAND THAT CROSSED OVER. 
          LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND PLANNING THAT IS ONE OF THE CROSS-OVER AREAS AS WELL. 
          I CERTAINLY SEE AND THEN WE'VE GOT THE CROSS-OVER, THE ROAD PLAN TRANSPORTATION CROSSING OVER IN THIS SECTION. SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF AREAS THAT ARE CROSSING MULTIPLE ZONES, I GUESS I'LL CALL THEM, THOSE ARE THREE OF THE ONES THAT WE SEE 
          UP THERE. >> THE ONE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT WAS THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT STUDY. WENT OUT LAST WEEK AND TOOK A LOOK AT THE VAN THERE. 
          REALLY NEAT SET-UP. THEY'VE ANALYZED 300 MILES OF OUR ROADWAYS ALREADY. 
          THEY SHOWED THEIR TARGETING TO FINISH OBVIOUSLY BEFORE CHRISTMAS HERE. 
          AND HOPEFULLY BE DONE BY THIS WEEKEND. THAT DATA, IT'S LOTS AND LOTS OF DATA THAT THIS VEHICLE IS COLLECTING ON THE ROADS. I WOULD EXPECT HERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND GIVE YOU THIS TRANSPORTATION TYPE OF PLAN. 
          I THINK IT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE TRANSIT STUDY THAT WE'LL WORK ON WITH JTA. 
          NOT ONLY ARE WE LOOKING AT ROADS, TRANSIT STUDY AND THEN THE FINAL THING WOULD BE A DIRT ROAD PLAN. HOW DO WE MITIGATE, HOW DO WE COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR DIRT ROADS. I THINK THAT ALL KIND OF COMES TOGETHER. 
          JUST TO POINT OUT, ON THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT STUDY, THEY'RE NOT DRIVING OVER DIRT ROADS. BUT I THINK IT CAN DOVE TAIL TOGETHER NICELY. 
          PREPARED SURFACES, UNPREPARED SURFACES, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. 
          IF THAT COULD BE ONE THAT WE COULD TARGET TO COMPLETE IN 2022. 
          >> WHAT ABOUT SET OF ORDINANCES FOR ANIMAL CONTROL. WE HAD A COUPLE OF HITS ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS. DO WE HAVE SOMETHING COOKING ON 
          THAT? >> YES, SIR. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT AND DEVELOPING IT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DEFINITELY TAKEN HITS PERSONNEL WISE WITH ANIMAL SERVICES. WE HAD A BIG HEAVY LIFT WITH THIS ADOPTION. 
          AND THAT. SO YES, SIR. BEEN WORKING WITH COURTNEY ON THAT. WE TOOK A LOOK AT SOME OTHER COUNTIES AND HOW THEY OPERATE AND PERFORM THOSE DUTIES. IT IS DEFINITELY A COMPLICATED AREA TO GET INTO. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE WENT OUT WITH THAT RFP FOR THE TRAP, NEUTER RELEASE. 
          THAT CAME BACK REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON THE PER ANIMAL DOLLAR AMOUNT. 
          THAT WILL COME BACK INTO PLAY HERE THIS SPRING AS THOSE CATS GET ACTIVE. 
          AND SO LOOKING AT THAT, YES, ORDINANCES FOR ANIMAL SERVICES, DEFINITELY A KEY AREA, PUPPY MILL AREA, DANGEROUS DOG, TO ALL OF THOSE, COULD DEFINITELY BE ONE TOO. 
          >> WELL, IT'S CERTAINLY NICE TO SEE THAT WHERE SOME OF THE ALIGNMENTS ARE COMING OUT. 
          AND CERTAINLY WE KNEW WALKING AWAY FROM THIS TODAY THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE PERFECT ALIGNMENT. 
          BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE STAFF TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE AREAS OF EMPHASIS COULD BE AND HOW THEY ALIGN WITH SOME OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS AND PLANS AND STUDIES ALREADY IN PLACE. 
          AND PERHAPS BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN YOU KNOW JUST AS A REPORT OUT IN A FUTURE MEETING. CHAIRMAN BOLLA, IS THERE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? 
          >>THE CHAIRMAN:  WELL, I THINK IT WAS VALUABLE IN THE PERSPECTIVE JUST TO FIND OUT WHAT MY FELLOW WIZARDS ARE THINKING. WE CAN'T JUST SIT DOWN OVER A CUP OF COFFEE AND TALK ABOUT WHERE WE THINK THE COUNTY OUGHT TO GO. 
          THIS KIND OF STUFF IS VALUABLE TO TRY AND GUESS WHAT IS POSSIBLE AND WHAT IS NOT. 
          WE'RE NOT ALL GOING TO GET WHAT WE THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          BUT IF WE CAN GET TWO OR THREE OF US LINING UP IN THE SAME DIRECTION, THAT CERTAINLY 
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HELPS. AND I LIKE PLANNING. YOU ALL KNOW THAT. 
          AND IF WE HAD AT LEAST AIM, WE'RE LIKELY TO HIT THE TARGET. SO THAT IS WHERE I'M COMING FROM. I THINK THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THING LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING WE COULD PROBABLY GET OUR ARMS AROUND AT SOME POINT. IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF MONEY. 
          NONE OF THESE THINGS ON HERE ARE BIG DOLLAR THINGS EXCEPT MAYBE THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE. 
          BROADBAND. I'M MORE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AT THIS POINT. THERE IS MONEY AVAILABLE ALL OVER THE PLACE, IT APPEARS FOR BROADBAND IN THE FUTURE. IF THE COUNTY CAN FORGE A WAY FORWARD THAT WE LIKE AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THIS STUFF. I PROPOSE OUR NEXT STEP ON THE BROADBAND WOULD BE TO HAVE ANOTHER WORKSHOP WHERE TROY CAN TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING 
          WITH EVERYTHING. HE IS NOT SAYING NO. >> WE HAVE AN RFP. 
          >> NOT YET. >> SO WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE, CHAIRMAN, LIKE JANUARY 14TH, WE SHOULD BE PREPARED, RIGHT? BY JANUARY 14TH? OR NO? OKAY. COME ON UP. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE UP HERE 
          ANYHOW. >> NOT TO GET TOO DEEP INTO IT, WE OPENED THE BIDS TODAY, ESTABLISHED OUR COMMITTEE. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE ON JANUARY 7TH, I THINK IS THE DATE WE SAID. SO I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE READY TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD UNTIL THE END OF JANUARY WITH A RECOMMENDATION. SO I WOULD THINK END OF JANUARY, FIRST PART OF FEBRUARY, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, AS IN ANY EVALUATION, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE THE DISCRETION TO HAVE PRESENTATION FROM THOSE AFTER WE DO THE HE 
          AND SEE WHAT THE PLANS LOOK LIKE. >> MY ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO COME UP WITH A PLAN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR AS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO GET THIS STUFF IMPLEMENTED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I LIKE TO SEE PLANS, BUT THEY DON'T DO ANYBODY ANY GOOD IF THEY'RE THROWN ON A SHELF SOMEWHERE. 
          >> THIS GIVES YOU A PLAN FORWARD BASED ON US DOING AN RFP THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO COME AND GIVE US THEIR IDEAS ON HOW TO DO IT. STAFF WILL EVALUATE THOSE, COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN I THINK BY FEBRUARY, YOU'LL HAVE A -- THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION ON ANY OF THOSE PALATABLE AND WHAT DOES THAT FUNDING LOOK LIKE. 
          IS IT A PRIVATE-PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP OR SOME OTHER METHODOOGY. 
          I THINK YOU WILL HAVE A PLAN IN FEBRUARY. >> ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE ON WHICH DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO? 
          >> YES, SIR. >> THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING TO HEAR. 
          >> YEAH. I THINK, I MEAN, MAYBE I WASN'T CLEAR ON WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE HAPPEN. IF HE IS PRESENTING THIS IN FEBRUARY, I WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE INTERNET IN MARCH. I MEAN, I CAN'T DO THE -- I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY -- YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME A WARM FUZZY TROY, WHEN YOU SAID LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY. 
          WE HAVE KIDS WHO CAN'T DO HOMEWORK. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WORK FROM HOME. I MEAN, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT. 
          YOU AND I HAVE HAD ENOUGH CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT. I WANT US TO DO DUE DILIGENCE ON THE BIDS THAT CAME BACK. BUT THE INTENTION WAS AS SOON AS -- WHEN THEY SENT OUT THE RFP, DON'T FORGET THEY BROKE IT UP INTO FIVE DIVISIONS, VIRGINIA VILLAGE IN COMMISSIONER BURKE'S DISTRICT. MCCRAY, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, MIDDLEBURG AND CLAY HILL BEYOND 
          CARTER SPENCER. >> LET KAREN AND I GO BACK AND TALK ABOUT DATES AND SEE IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN SPEED THAT UP, AT LEAST GET IT TO THE BOARD EARLIER IN 
          JANUARY. >> AND COME WITH A RECOMMENDED ACTION PLAN THAT WE COULD 
          APPROVE. >> THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN, COME WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          >> QUITE HONESTLY BE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS, BASED AGAIN AS THE FIVE DISTRICTS THAT THEY 
          DIVIDED US INTO. >> I WANT TO INTERJECT SOMETHING HERE. 
          IN ORDER TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION, YOU NEED INFORMATION. YOU NEED FACTS. 
          AND I'M AT A LOSS FOR THE NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE THROUGH THE FCC, I'M AT A LOSS WITH THE STATE PERSPECTIVE THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE, FAC, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I FEAR IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND SOME COUNTY MONEY AND IT'S NOT SYNCRONIZED WITH THE EFFORTS ONGOING. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A WHITE PAPER WHAT WE ARE DOING IS IN CONCERT WITH THE OTHER EFFORTS 
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ONGOING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACCESS 67 IS DOING. 
          MAYBE I DON'T READ ENOUGH, BUT I DO READ ENOUGH, MAYBE NOT THAT PARTICULAR THING. 
          >> THE SHIP SAILED. SO WE VOTED ON THIS IN SEPTEMBER WITH ARPA MONEY. 
          WE SET ASIDE ARPA MONEY. THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL. THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF STUDIES DONE, BUT NOBODY IS IMPLEMENTING ANYTHING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, KIDS CAN'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK, PEOPLE CAN'T WORK FROM HOME. THEY'RE ARGUING OVER WHETHER YOU SHOULD HAVE 100 UP, 25 DOWN. AM I GETTING THAT RIGHT? OR 75 UP GOOD ENOUGH. 
          OR LITERALLY THEY'RE ARGUING OVER THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK THE LATEST PROPOSAL I SAW FOR THE STATE AND ACCESS 67 IS TRYING TO FIGHT IT. I THINK MAYBE THEY'RE MAKING HEADWAY WITH SOME OF OUR STATE SENATORS BUT NOW THEY ARE WANTING TO DO A MAPPING STUDY TO SHOW EXACTLY WHAT AREAS ARE UNSERVED OR UNDER-SERVED. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN WAIT FOR THAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR LOCAL CITIZENS AND WE CAN DO SOMETHING AND GET IT DONE AND THEY CAN ALL STILL TALK ABOUT 
          IT. >> AGREE WITH YOU. WE CAN'T WAIT. 
          BUT I STILL WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING AND HOW IT COULD FIT, DOES IT FIT, DOESN'T FIT IN THE BROADER PERSPECTIVE OF IMPLEMENTATION OF BROADBAND THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES. YOU KNOW, WHO IS IT EISENHOWER -- WHO DID ELECTRIFICATION? HE HAD A BIG NATIONAL PLAN EXECUTED. I DON'T SEE THE NATIONAL GOVERNMENT DOING THIS OR HAVING THE SAME TYPE SUCCESS WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          SO THIS IS KIND OF A BAND-AID TO GET THROUGH NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. 
          100 DOWN, 25 UP OR WHATEVER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MINIMAL. 
          WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IN ORANGE PARK, YOU CAN GET GIGABYTE. 
          NOT 100 DOWN. >> THIS TECHNOLOGY CHANGES SO FAST IN TWO TO THREE YEARS, ANY DECISION WE MAKE WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE OBSOLETE. SO I'M MORE WITH BETSEY. 
          LET'S -- WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION. >> NO, WE DON'T. 
          >> IT'S AN EXECUTIVE DECISION. THAT IS WHY THEY PAY US THE BIG BUCKS HERE. 
          I MEAN, AT SOME POINT YOU GOT TO TAKE WHAT YOU GOT AND RUN WITH IT. 
          >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THERE IS INFORMATION OUT THERE. 
          I DON'T HAVE IT. POINT ME IN THE DIRECTION WHERE WE CAN GET IT SO WE CAN MAKE 
          DECENT DECISIONS. >> WE'VE MADE THAT DECISION WHEN WE PUT MONIES ASIDE. 
          I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT FLAGLER COUNTY DID IN TERMS OF THEIR DEAL WITH CHARTER CABLE, THEY SPLIT THE COST 50/50 AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE CABLE RUN AND SERVICE SOME TIME THIS YEAR FOR THEIR FOLKS. SO I THINK WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE DOWN THE ROAD, IF PEOPLE START THROWING ENOUGH MONEY AT IT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT OR BOTH, WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, WE WILL BE BETTER SUITED. ALREADY HAVE OUR FEET ON THE 
          GROUND. >> THAT IS WHY WE'VE GOT TO GET OUR STAFF BEST RECOMMENDATION 
          AND CLOSE OUR EYES AND JUMP. >> I THINK WE'VE CERTAINLY ESTABLISHED THIS IS A PRIORITY 
          OF THE BOARD. >> AND ONE COMMENT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY, HOW RAPIDLY IT IS CHANGING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE JUST NOT GOING TO WAIT. 
          THAT IS THE DIRECTION THE BOARD HAS GIVEN US, THE STAFF AND WE'RE FORGING FORWARD WITH IT. 
          SO I WANT TO MAKE ALL ASSURANCES. IT WOULD BE LIKE WAITING AND I HAVE A FEW ANALOGIES ON IT. IF YOUR AUTOMOBILE HAD AN 8-TRACK TAPE ON IT AND YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE CASSETTE PLAYER. PERHAPS HOW ABOUT THIS, CD AND YOU'RE SITTING THERE WAITING  . AND OH, HOW ABOUT BY THE WAY NOW YOU JUST GOT SPOTIFY. 
          SO YOU DON'T EVEN NEED THE CD OR ANYTHING. SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS TECHNOLOGY RAPIDLY CHANGE WITH THE NUMBER OF SATELLITES THAT ARE GOING TO GO UP. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT WAITING. WE'RE GOING TO INSTALL IT AND WE'LL PIVOT FORWARD FROM THERE. 
          GOT THAT ONE. AND JUST TO HELP OUT, I THE BIG ONES THAT I STARTED, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND CONSERVATION PLAN, TRANSPORTATION MASTER PLAN, ANIMAL SERVICES ORDINANCES TO COINCIDE. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BIG ONES THAT I'VE JOTTED DOWN AND LOOKING FOR SYNERGY, IF YOU HAVE IT CHAIRMAN OR ANYONE ELSE ON THAT. AND WHAT I DO, IF IT'S OKAY, WITH THE BOARD, ON JANUARY 14TH, COME BACK AND BRIEF YOU ALL, KIND OF OUR WAY AHEAD AND OUR PLAN TO EXECUTE THESE MOVING FORWARD. BUT IF THERE IS SOMETHING MORE TO ADD, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY OTHER IDEAS OUT THERE. LIKE THE GREEN COVE CRA. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE THE NORMAL DECISIONS TO BE MADE FROM THE BOARD, TO GATHER DATA, TO GET THE INFORMATION FROM 
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STEVE KENNEDY AND HIS STAFF AND THAT MOVING FORWARD. THERE IS A BUNCH OF OTHERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. BOAT RAMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE DAILY ACTIVITY, PERHAPS WE CAN PUT THOSE IN SOMEHOW, SOMEWHERE. EVERYTHING IS GOING TO NEED SOME SORT OF FUNDING, AS 
          POINTED OUT BY THE CHAIRMAN. DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. >> MAYBE LIKE IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, EDUCATE US MORE ON THE CRA AND WHAT THAT INVOLVES, WHAT OUR COMMITMENT LEVEL IS. 
          >> YES, MA'AM. I'LL WORK HAND IN HAND WITH STEVE. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF EXAMPLES OUT THERE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THEM. 
          WE MET WITH STEVE AND HIS STAFF A FEW TIMES ALREADY. KIND OF THE WAY AHEAD AND ONES THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THAT AND WHAT THEIR RETURN ON INVESTMENT WAS AND WHAT WE WOULD BE ANTICIPATING BY MOVING FORWARD IF THE BOARD SO CHOOSES ON THAT. 
          >> YEAH, THEY DID. >> THERE WILL BE MORE TO FOLLOW. 
          >> MY BUSINESS IS THE ONE IN KEYSTONE. CITY MANAGER BRICKHOUSE, HE TEXTED ME. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE. 
          I WILL READ THAT. >> ANYTHING MORE, CHAIRMAN? >>THE CHAIRMAN:  WELL, THE ROAD PROJECTS, THE WAY I SEE THIS GOING FORWARD IS WE'VE GOT -- WE'RE COLLECTING THE DATA NOW. 
          AT SOME POINT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PUT THAT INTO A PLAN, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. 
          >> >> YES, SIR. >> WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE 
          DIRT ROADS. >> LET ME GET WITH THERESA AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          YOU HAD MENTIONED POSSIBLY BRINGING A CONSULTANT ON TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, AND TAKE A 
          LOOK AT HOW WE CAN FUND THAT. >> THAT WOULD GIVE US A PLAN FOR THE ROADS AND AT LEAST 
          GOING FORWARD, FOR THE NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? >> OH, YES, SIR. 
          OUT OF THIS STUDY THAT WE HAVE FOR THE PAVEMENT SURVEY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET -- YEAH. 
          WE WERE TARGETING END OF JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIME FRAME THERE TO BRING BACK THE DATA. 
          AND THEN A PROPOSAL BY THE STAFF ON HOW WE WOULD USE THOSE MONIES THAT ARE BUDGETED IN 
          THIS YEAR'S BUDGET. >> DO WE HAVE ANY ONGOING STUDIES TO ADDRESS THE DIRT 
          ROADS YET >> WE DO NOT. >> I SEE THAT FALLING TOGETHER IN A TWO-TIER KIND OF THING. WHICH ROADS DO WE LOOK AT AND THEN THE OTHER TIER WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE DONE ANY RESEARCH ON DIFFERENT TYPES OF QUOTE PAVING THAT IS NOT QUITE PAVING. THAT WOULD ADDRESS THAT PIECE. SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A WORKSHOP ON THE RESULT OF THE PAVING DATA COLLECTION WE'RE DOING NOW AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO TURN THAT INTO SOMETHING WE CAN EXECUTE ON IN TERMS OF WHAT IS YOUR PLAN OR SUGGESTED PLAN GOING FORWARD FOR THE YEAR AND MAYBE FOR A FIVE-YEAR PAVING PROGRAM. 
          >> YES, SIR. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  I WOULD LIKE TO BE IN A POSITION IN TEN YEARS TO SAY ALL WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS WHAT BROKE LAST YEAR. 
          BUT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THERE UNLESS WE DO SOMETHING ELSE HERE. 
          >> BOTH NASSAU AND ST. JOHNS DID A 10-YEAR PLAN. I GUESS THEIR COMMISSIONS COMMITTED TO WHATEVER THEY AGREED TO WITHIN THOSE TEN YEARS. 
          MAYBE WE WANT TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID. I HAVE NOT DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH INTO THOSE. I JUST KNOW BOTH OF THEM DID IT. 
          >> LET'S DO THAT. WHAT ELSE DO WE GOT IN HERE? RECREATION PLAN. 
          I GUESS THE TWO I GOT POPPED OUT WERE THE BROADBAND AND TRANSPORTATION. 
          WHAT WOULD BE NEXT? >> THE OTHER TWO THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IS THE LAND USE 
          AND THEN THE ANIMAL SERVICES POLICIES. >> ANIMAL SERVICES, I THINK WE NEED A BASKET OF ORDINANCES THAT WILL ADDRESS THAT. MY IDEA WAS TO TRY TO FARM THIS OUT TO A THIRD PARTY AND GET OUT OF THIS BUSINESS. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANY WILL TO DO THAT. IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE IN THE ANIMAL ADOPTION BUSINESS. 
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          >> I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, CHAIRMAN, IF WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THERE IS NOBODY BIG ENOUGH OR BRAVE ENOUGH TO TAKE OVER FROM THE COUNTY. 
          AND WE END UP WITH THE BOTTOM LINE RESPONSIBILITY ACCORDING TO STATE STATUTE I THINK. 
          AND THAT WE'RE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE ANYWAY. IF THEY DROP THE BALL, WE'RE 
          GOING TO HAVE TO BE THERE TO PICK IT UP. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  THE ISSUE WAS LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED IT WE WEREN'T IN A POSITION TO GUARANTEE ANY PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO FUND IT AT A CERTAIN LEVEL. THAT WAS THE REAL THING THAT BROKE IT. I SUSPECT IF WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPEND TWO MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AT IT, AND HOPE THAT WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY, WE CAN PROBABLY FIND 
          SOMEBODY THAT WOULD STEP UP. >> I DON'T KNOW. I THINK YOU WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO FIND SOME OF THOSE SMALLER OPERATIONS TO DO THAT. AND THEN YOU'RE STILL ON THE HOOK TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS DONE. I THINK THAT IS REALLY PART OF THE PROBLEM. YOU CAN SPEND THE TWO MILLION BY GIVING IT TO ANOTHER ORGANIZATION, BUT THEN IF THEY FAIL, FALTER, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING MONEY ON TOP OF THAT. BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF IT. 
          >>THE CHAIRMAN:  WE'LL PUT THAT DOWN AS A DUMB IDEA. >> I DON'T THINK IT'S A DUMB IDEA. TROY AND I MET WITH THE FOLKS FROM THE SAFE SHELTER AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE NEW FACILITY, WHEN THE RUBBER MET THE ROAD, THEY HAD TO COME UP WITH SPECIFICS, THEY WEREN'T BIG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          IT MAY COME ABOUT WHERE IT MAY BE A LITTLE HYBRID COULD POSSIBLY WORK AT SOME POINT DOWN THE LINE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ANYBODY BIG ENOUGH OR BRAVE ENOUGH AS I SAID BEFORE TO TAKE THAT ON. DEFINITELY ON THE ORDINANCES, I THINK WE DESPERATELY NEED IT. 
          >> HOW FAST COULD WE GET THOSE? >> I THINK COURTNEY HAS BEEN WORKING ON THOSE FOR A WHILE 
          NOW. >> YEARS. >> WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON WITH TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM THAT IS IMPORTANT TO FACILITATE THAT. WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE OUR 
          NEEDS. >> I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT MAYBE ADOPTING WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTIES ARE, I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYBE WE DON'T WANT TO SHUT DOWN ALL OF THE PET STORES. MY SON WAS IN THE ONE IN ORANGE PARK MALL, HE WAS TOLD IF YOU DON'T BUY THIS DOG TODAY, IT'S GOING TO A KILL SHELTER TOMORROW. 
          HE CALLS ME, I NEED $900 TO BUY THIS DOG. YEAH, RIGHT. 
          THAT IS AN UNSAVORY BUSINESS PRACTICE. THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER RENNINGER WAS TALKING ABOUT, MAYBE BUSINESS LICENSE OR SOMETHING. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHO THESE PUPPY MILLS ARE. ESPECIALLY NOW THAT YOU CAN RUN WITH THE STATE LAW CHANGING WHERE YOU CAN RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR HOME, IT BECOMES EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. SO I THINK SOME OF THESE CROSSOVER YOU KNOW, THAT THE ANIMAL ORDINANCES KIND OF GO WITH THE BUSINESS PRACTICES AND THE LICENSING AND POSSIBLY LICENSING. YOU DIDN'T MENTION LICENSING, BUT I DID. 
          ADD ON TO YOU KNOW, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. YOU MENTIONED UNSAVORY BUSINESS PRACTICES. THE OTHER THING, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT I REALLY THINK MAYBE DIDN'T GET HIGHLIGHTED, I SAW NODS AROUND US, BUT MAYBE THAT COMMISSIONER CELLA PRESENTED, I THINK YOU CALLED IT CLEAN OF CLAY. I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRASH ON THE SIDES OF THE ROAD. PEOPLE NOT CARING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEN THE BIGGER ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT TRASH AND RECYCLING AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY REALLY ISN'T WORKING FOR ANYBODY. AND SO I THINK THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE A PRIORITY IN 2022, WHETHER WE WANT IT TO BE OR NOT. 
          I MEAN, CERTAINLY I'M NOT INTERESTED IN GOING AND TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL. BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE MOST FUN TOPIC FOR US TO TACKLE. 
          BUT IT MATTERS A LOT TO OUR CITIZENS. >> IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. 
          MORE IMPORTANT AS WE GO ALONG. I KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT. 
          I BELIEVE IN 2023. DON'T WE NEED A NEW CONTRACT ANYWAY. 
          SO WE'RE DRAWING CLOSE ON THE END OF A CONTRACT YEAR ANYWAY. MIGHT AS WELL GET A HEAD START ON THAT. I THINK THERE IS A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          IF YOU SUBSCRIBE TO WHAT THE SHERIFF CALLS THE BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY, PILE OF RUBBISH 
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ON THE ROAD, SOMEBODY RENOVATED A BATHROOM SOMEWHERE, THEY LEAVE IT ALL ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, WHICH HAPPENED A NUMBER OF TIMES IN MY DISTRICT, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN PLACE TO GO AFTER THAT PERSON, HOW DO WE DO IT. WE DO HAVE SOME. 
          BUT I THINK THAT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE THAT I WON'T SAY WHERE, BUT I WENT BY A LOCAL SHOPPING PLAZA AND THEY HAD THEIR DUMPSTER OUT THERE AND IT WAS OVERFLOWED SO BADLY OTHER PEOPLE THOUGHT THEY COULD BRING MATTRESSES AND HOUSEHOLD FURNITURE AND LEAVE IT THERE BECAUSE IT WAS OVERFLOWED. I THINK ALL OF THOSE THINGS THEY SORT OF ADD UP AS TO PEOPLE TAKE PRIDE IN WHERE THEY ARE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THROW LITTER OUT, THEY WON'T DO THAT. 
          >> IS IT GOING TO GET WORSE WITH THE RISING COST OF COMMERCIAL DUMPSTERS GOING UP? I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD THAT RECENTLY. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE FOLLOWED CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, FACE THAT, THEN ARE WE GOING TO HAVE BUSINESSES NOT GOING TO HAVE DUMPSTERS OR OVERFLOWING BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY TO HAVE IT HAULED 
          AS MUCH. >> EVEN THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT PUT THE COLLECTING BINS, THEY INVITE YOU TO DROP THINGS OFF. THOSE GET OUT OF HAND IN A HURRY AS WELL. 
          PEOPLE LEAVE THEIR GARBAGE THERE. THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS WELL. RIGHT NOW THERE IS NO ORDINANCE OR ANYTHING THAT CONTROLS WHO CAN PUT A BIN OUT THERE AND WHO CAN'T. WHAT HAPPENS IF IT BECOMES OVERFLOWED. AND USUALLY THAT HAPPENS ON A PARCEL THAT THE BUSINESS IS OUT OF BUSINESS. SO THERE IS REALLY NOBODY THERE TO MONITOR THAT. 
          SO I THINK THAT IS A REAL IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT WHOLE GARBAGE AND MAINSTREAM WASTE AND UNIVERSAL COLLECTION. AS WE INCREASE POPULATION, DIFFERENT THINGS, ALWAYS HAS AN 
          IMPACT SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE. >> WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AS A PROJECT GOING FORWARD?   MULTIPLE COMPONENTS TO THAT. YOU HAVE GOT THE PROFESSIONAL SIDE, WHICH IS THE NEW CONTRACT. THEN YOU'VE GOT PUBLIC WORKS, PEOPLE ARE LEAVING NEEDLES AND MASKS. HOW DO WE WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT. 
          CERTAINLY WE NEED TO MAKE A STRONGER PUSH, ESPECIALLY YOU KNOW, IT RELATES TO COMMERCIAL DUMPING OR EVEN PRIVATE DUMPING. LANDSCAPERS DROPPING STUFF. 
          >> A SERIES OF ORDINANCES? >> GOOD QUESTION. I WOULD WANT TO SIT WITH CHARLIE AND MILTON FROM ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES TO HAVE INPUT ON THAT. 
          >> IF THEY DO A WORKSHOP, THEY'RE HERE, COME UP WITH IDEAS OF THINGS WE CAN ACTUALLY 
          DO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THAT IS WHERE I'M KIND OF -- >> YEAH. 
          THERE ARE RECENT EXAMPLES OF THAT. PASCO COUNTY I THINK DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT. CITRUS COUNTY, THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS DID VIDEOS ABOUT ANTI-LITTERING, THE YOUNGER KIDS DID POSTERS, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          >> WE DO IN FACT HAVE CONSULTANTS CONDUCTING A STUDY NOW TO PROVIDE US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMPLETED IN APRIL. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE A VERY THOROUGH STUDY COMPLETED. CONSIDERING EVERYTHING FROM WHETHER OR NOT TO BREAK THE COUNTY INTO PIECES SO THAT WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT LEVEL OF SERVICES IN DIFFERENT PIECES. BUT WE'LL KEEP YOU APPRISED AS THAT CONTINUES. 
          BUT WE'RE GOING FULL BLAST. >> SO YOU WILL BE READY IN APRIL? 
          >> THE REPORT WILL BE READY IN APRIL. WE WILL BE READY SHORTLY AFTER 
          THAT. >> MR. CHAIR, IS THAT HOW YOU'LL BUILD THE RFP, FROM THAT 
          STUDY? >> YES, MA'AM. WE'VE GOT TWO OF THE BEST CONSULTANTS IN THE STATE. ONE IS AN ENGINEER, ONE IS AN OPERATIONS CONSULTANT. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED ANOTHER ROSE MARY HILL, ALL OF THAT WILRWILL BE ROSE MARY HILL, AL RWILL BE OSE MARY HILL, ALL OF RWILL BE ADDRESSED. 
          >>THE CHAIRMAN:  MAY 1ST. TRYING TO NAIL YOU DOWN HERE. >> WE'LL GET AN ESTIMATE FROM THEM IN APRIL. I HAVE ASKED THEM TO BUMP IT UP IF THEY CAN. 
          SO WE'LL KEEP YOU POSTED AS SOON AS THE STUDY COMES IN AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO 
          ANALYZE THE STUDY. >> BUT THEY'RE ONLY LOOKING AT THE COMMERCIAL PIECE OF THIS PROBLEM. WE HAVE A SMALLER PIECE, YOU KNOW, LITTER, JUST TRASH ALONG 
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          THE ROADWAYS THAT ISN'T BEING PICKED UP. >> DOESN'T THE SHERIFF HAVE 
          ENVIRONMENTAL? >> WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO SHERIFF DEPUTIES ASSIGNED TO OUR 
          DEPARTMENT. >> I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO THEY HAVE TOOLS IN TERMS OF 
          ORDINANCES OR TEETH IN THOSE ORDINANCES? >> YES, SIR. 
          I I BELIEVE SO. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL CONTAINERS, UNFORTUNATELY, THE CONTAINER WHEN YOU PURCHASE A CONTAINER, LEASE A CONTAINER, FOUR YARD OR EIGHT YARD, THAT IS BASICALLY ALL YOU'RE PAYING FOR. SO WHEN THINGS GET STACKED OUTSIDE OF THE CAN, TYPICALLY THEY DON'T GET PICKED UP BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR THAT. AND YOU HAVEN'T PAID FOR THE SERVICE FOR THE GARBAGE MAN TO STAND THERE AND THROW THEM BACK IN THE CAN AND DUMP IT AGAIN. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THE HAULERS HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR CITIZENS TO MAKE SURE THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR THAT AMOUNT OF WASTE AND THAT YOU CAN'T JUST PILE A WHOLE BUNCH. 
          EVERYBODY PUTS TEN YARDS OF WASTE ON THE FLOOR. BUT PART OF THE STUDY ALSO IS WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD LOOK AT COMMERCIAL BEING A FRANCHISE MARKET AS WELL. 
          OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE A MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO MANAGE A FRANCHISE THAN THEY WOULD RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT THE INDEPENDENT NON-EXCLUSIVE FRANCHISE HAULERS. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AS AN OPTION AS WELL. >> CHARLIE, IF SOMEBODY OWNS A PRIVATE STORE PLAZA, THEY'VE GOT A CONTAINER OUT THERE AND SOMEBODY COMES AND DUMPS IT. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CALL THE COUNTY AND TALK TO SOMEBODY FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING AT THAT POINT, IF THEY DUMP IT OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY USUALLY COLLECT FROM THEIR TENANTS OR 
          WHATEVER IN THAT DUMPSTER? >> YES, SIR. WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THE DIFFERENT HAULERS. MOST OF THEM HAVE LOCKING DEVICES ON THE CONTAINERS. 
          >> THIS IS USUALLY NOT PILED UP IN THE CONTAINER, USUALLY PILED UP OUTSIDE OF THE CONTAINER. 
          >> TWO-FOLD PROBLEM, THE FACT THAT ADJOINING BUSINESSES ARE PIGGY BACKING INTO SOMEBODY'S CONTAINER SERVICE THAT THEY HAVEN'T PAID FOR. AND ALSO, THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT FROM THE CITIZENS THAT BECAUSE I BOUGHT THIS CONTAINER, I EXPECT ALL OF 
          THAT GARBAGE TO BE CLEANED UP. IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. >> I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE GOT WITH THAT ONE. I'M LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPLEMENT IT. 
          >> I THINK AS CHARLIE INDICATED, HE'S GOT FUNDING THAT WILL HELP US IN TERMS OF UNIVERSAL COLLECTION. THE OTHER THINGS COULD BE HANDLED THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND TRY TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP PREVENT SOME OF THAT. MORE BENEFIT WHEN INCENTIVIZE RATHER THAN PUNISHED. 
          >> WHY DON'T WE SUM UP HERE, YOU GOT ANYTHING TO ADD, KRISTEN? 
          >> I ACTUALLY DO. PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT BEING A POLITICIAN, I SAY I'M NOT A POLITICIAN. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT THE FEDERAL AND THE STATE LEVELS, THERE IS A LOT OF TALK IN POLITICS. AND LIKE WE'RE GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD. BUT THEY YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT. 
          I WANTED TO TELL THE CITIZENS, WE HAVE A STAFF, COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT ARE READY TO GET SOMETHING DONE. AND I CAN'T SPEAK ON PAST COMMISSIONERS, BUT THE GROUP THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THE STAFF, I JUST PEOPLE CALL, IF YOU HAVE ISSUES, CALL. 
          WE'RE READY TO GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT IT. I THINK THAT DEFINITELY CAN BE SEEN HERE. AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. EXCITED TO BE WORKING WITH THE 
          GROUP THAT WE HAVE. >> I THINK IT'S IMPRESSIVE THAT ALL FIVE OF US KIND OF CAME UP WITH ALL OF THE SAME THEMES AND LOOKS LIKE THAT WE'RE IN LOCK STEP. 
          SO I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS TOGETHER. BECAUSE I THINK WE NEEDED TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THE SUNSHINE, SO THEN WE CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS FOR PRIORITIES 
          AND GOING FORWARD. AND YOU KNOW, I LOVE A PLAN. >> WELL, I JUST WANT TO -- ONE OF THE AREAS WE DID NOT ADDRESS IN THERE, THERE ARE SOME STICKIES UP THERE THAT WE HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO. BUT I THINK THEY ARE WORTHY OF ADDRESSING. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD EXAMPLE. SPECIAL EVENTS PERMITS. I BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE IT'S A SEVERE NEED. IT WOULD BE NICE TO CHRONICLE THOSE AS BEING IN WORK, SO THAT 
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THEY DIDN'T GO UNNOTICED. THEY ARE IMPORTANT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS. 
          IMPORTANT TO THE SAFE AND EFFICIENT AND ORDERLY CONDUCT OF BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO THEY'RE WORTHY OF COMMENTS. I GUESS THAT IS MY COMMENT. >> MY FETHANK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR THOUGHTS AND WHERE THEY CAN SEE THE COUNTY GOING. 
          WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS MAYBE HAVE HOWARD AND HIS STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT OUR STICKY NOTES AND COALESCING THOSE INTO GROUP AREAS. MAYBE THAT IS THE NEXT WORKSHOP THAT WE HAVE AND WE'VE GOT OTHER THINGS I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ON A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK YOU NEED TO SIT AND SEE THOSE THINGS CONNECTED AND BE 
          ABLE TO MELD THEM IN. >> GOOD IDEA. COUNTY MANAGER. 
          >> I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT. I MEAN, APPRECIATE THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, COMING TOGETHER. I WANT TO THANK DR. LEBESCH FOR MODERATING. 
          THIS IS A GREAT START TO 2022 AS WE MOVE FORWARD. ALONG WITH OTHER HABITS FOR SUCCESS, AS WE MOVE INTO THIS NEW YEAR. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS INTERACTION WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE ALSO OUT IN THE AUDIENCE HERE THAT I THINK THERE IS MORE TO FOLLOW WITH THAT, CONNECTIONS ALONG CCUA. I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF NOTES DOWN. 
          A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON. I THINK THE GOAL THAT YOU WANTED TO GET TO, CHAIRMAN, WERE SOME BIG THREE TO BIG FIVE, I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK JANUARY 14TH AND BRIEF YOU ON THOSE. AND THEN I'LL TAKE ON BOARD WHAT COMMISSIONER CELLA RECOMMENDED, FOLLOW-UP WORKSHOPS, BUSINESS LICENSE, ANIMAL LICENSE OR THOSE. THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THAT KIND OF DON'T HAVE AN IMPACT PRIORITY YET. BUT NOW THAT YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT THESE IN THE SUNSHINE, THE STAFF KNOWS TO BE FULLY FASCINATED, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THESE ITEMS. SO I THINK THAT HAS BEEN MY MANTRA SINCE ON BOARD. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO 2022 AND EXECUTING THE PLAN THAT WE'VE SET UP AND TAKING THESE 
          SUGGESTIONS ON BOARD AND PRIORITIES. >> I JUST WOULD ADD IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS MORNING. LOTS OF GREAT CONVERSATION ABOUT YOU KNOW, ABOUT THIS WONDERFUL COUNTY THAT WE LIVE IN. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >>THE CHAIRMAN:  I WANT TO THANK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS 
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FOR THEIR TIME. I THINK THE PUBLIC SEES THAT WE RECOGNIZE THERE ARE SOME ISSUES TO BE ADDRESSED IN CLAY COUNTY, WE'RE WORKING ON A LOT OF THEM ALREADY. 
          BUT THIS HAS BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US ALL TO SIT AND DISCUSS WHERE WE THINK THE COUNTY NEEDS TO HEAD. AND HOPEFULLY OUR -- MOST OF OUR STAFF IS SITTING OUT HERE. 
          THEY KNOW OUR HEARTS NOW AND WHERE WE THINK THINGS NEED TO GO. 
          I DON'T GET EVERYTHING I WON'T AND EVERYBODY ELSE WON'T EITHER. 
          BUT IF A COUPLE OF US AGREE THIS IS AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO MOVE ON, WE'LL MOVE THERE. 
          THANK YO
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