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>> WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FOR CLAY COUNTY OF DECEMBER SEVENTH.
WE WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
IT SEEMS TO GET LESS PRESS EVERY YEAR BUT IT IS PEARL HARBOR DAY.
[Pledge of Allegiance]
KEEP THAT IN MIND. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG UNITED TATES OF AMERICA AN TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBLT -- LIBERTY AND
JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED I WANT TO INTRODUCE TWO PEOPLE AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK USUALLY I LIKE TO SEE A SHOW OF HANDS WHO HAS ATTENDED ONE OF THESE MEETINGS BEFORE? OKAY, SO NOT EVERYONE. SO EVERYONE IS AWARE WHEN WE COME UP WITH AN AGENDA ITEM WE WILL HAVE A STAFF REPORT ON THE ITEM, WE WILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, THEN I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I ONLY HAVE ONE CARD IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK THEY CAN BUT ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OVER IT'S BACK TO THIS BOARD TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE ARE A BODY THAT RECOMMENDS TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON ITEMS THAT COME BEFORE US.
THOSE ITEMS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MEET ONLY ONCE NEXT MONTH, RIGHT? SO ANYTHING WE LOOK AT TONIGHT WILL BE HEARD BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS NEXT TUESDAY MANY THEIR MEETING STARTS AT 4:00? 4:00. SO, WITH THAT, LET ME MAKE SOME INTRODUCTIONS. I WANT TO START ON MY RIGHT ON THE DAIS. IT'S THE TWO YOUNG LADIES THERE FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE. THEY TAKE OUR MINUTES AND DO OUR RECORD-KEEPING. HANNAH TROWELL AND CHRISTINE BLANCHARD AND NEXT TO HER IS COMMISSIONER PETE DAVIS, THEN COMMISSIONER BO NORTON, MARY, I'M RALPH, WE HAVE MORE -- MICHAEL, NEXT TO HIM BILL GARRISON.
THE TWO GENTLEMEN ON THE END ARE NEW THIS MONTH.
THE FIRST ONE THERE IS LANCE ADDISON.
HE RENTS THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD AT THESE HEARINGS.
AND NEXT TO HIM IS SAM TOZER WHO REPRESENTS CAMP BLANDING IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES FIXING CAMP BLANDING.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STAFFERS HERE TONIGHT.
I'M GOING TO START WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING OR COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR, ED LEHMAN WHO IS JOINING US AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER AN EXTENDED ILLNESS.
AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM BACK.
[APPLAUSE] THEN WE HAVE HERE DOTY SELIG, MIKE BROWN CHIEF OF ZONING AND A COUPLE OF OTHER YOUNG LADIES IN THE CORNER WHO ARE FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT CHRISTIE JOHNSON AND SAMANTHA OLSON AND HIDING FROM ME DEPUTY SHERIFF VAUGHN IS HERE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL SAFE WHILE WE CONDUCT THESE MEETINGS AND OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, COURTNEY GRAHAM, WE ARE ALWAYS GLAD TO HAVE HER AS WELL.
WITH THAT I THINK WE CAN MOVE. KELLY.
I FORGOT ABOUT KELLY. I GOT YOU ON MATERNITY LEAVE ALREADY. KELLY IS OUR, HANDLES ALL THE CLERICAL ISSUES IN THE ZONING DEPARTMENT.
WITH THAT, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ONTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[1. Approval of Minutes]
WE START OUR MEETINGS WITH A FIRST THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, SO I'LL ASK IF ANYBODY HAS ANY CORRECTIONS, IF NOT, A MOTION, PLEASE. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM MR. ANZALONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ACCEPTING THE MINUTES SAY AYE, OPPOSED. THANK YOU.FIRST HEARING IT'S A GENERAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEMS THAT
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MAY BE PERTINENT TO THIS BOARD BUT AREN'T ACTUALLY ITEMS SPECIFICALLY ON THE AGENDA AND I HAVE ONE CARD ON THAT MISSION CONNIE THOMAS. I'LL ASK HER TO COME UP.THING SHE WAINTS TO MAKE A REAL BRIEF PRESENTATION TO US MANY WE WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY BUT WE WILL ASK TO YOU KEEP IT BRIEF. I THINK YOU GAVE EVERYBODY A
I'M CONNIE THOMAS HERE ON BEHALF OF THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO KIND OF INTRODUCE YOU IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD BUILT WE HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR OVER A YEAR NOW WITH 150-200 DIFFERENT RESIDENTS ON THE COLLEGE DRIVE AREA TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IT SENSE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT AREA.
WE'VE BEEN SEEING THIS GREAT SYNERGY HAPPENING ON COLLEGE DRIVE WITH THE A CLINIC, WAY FREE MEDICAL CLINIC, PACE CENTER FOR GIRLS, MERCY'S COURT SERVICES IS THERE.
THERE'S JUST A LOT HAPPENING ON COLLEGE DRIVE AND WE FELT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO BE PROACTIVE RATHER THAN REACTIVE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE AND WE ARE FINDING OUT THE GREAT SNIRJ THAT REGULAR BASIS ABLE TO WORK - TOGETHER AND CASE IN POINT IS PACE CENTER FOR GIRLS DIDN'T AVENUE AMAZE TO GO FOR A WHILE WHERE THEY WERE RENTING AND THE BUILDING WASN'T READY YET SO MERCY TOOK THEM IN TO HAVE OFFICES THERE SO IT'S BEEN WORKING OUT GREAT FOR OUR CITIZENS EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING ON COLLEGE DRIVE. ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE SUE AN ISSUE GUIDE. THAT'S THE ONE WITH PARTICULAR PURCHASE ON THE FRONTS OF IT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE WORKED ON WITH THE SEPTEMBER SINCE THE PASS YEAR WITH THE KEPT RING FOUNDATION THE REVEREND KAUFMAN LIVES IN CLAY COUNTY WITH THE KETTERING FOUNDATION AND WE DO THIS GREAT THING CALLED DELIBERATIVE DIALOGUE WITH THE CITIZENS AND IF YOU HAVEN'T A PART OF ONE OF THOSE DIALOGUES I HIGHLY COURAGE YOU TO COME BE A PART OF ONE IT'S WHAT CITIZENS WANT FOR THE COMMUNITY SO IT'S A GRASS ROOTS UP ITEM.
WE GOT TO POINT WE HAD DRILLED DOWN MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND WAS TIME TO PRESENT IT TO OUR COMMISSIONERS AND WE DID THAT ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND THAT'S THE LIST THAT'S BEFORE YOU, THE REQUEST TO THE COMMISSIONERS AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THEY HAVE GOT ON BOARD WITH US FULLLY AND WE ARE STARTING TO WORK ON MANY OF THESE ITEMS AND IN FACT NEXT WEEK I WAS INFORMED THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WILL BE GIVEN US A PROCLAMATION OF SUPPORT FOR THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE. SO, WHAT I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL BEGIN TO SEE IS YOU'LL BEGIN TO SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME BEFORE YOU ASKING FOR DIFFERENT REQUESTS FOR COLLEGE DRIVE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH HAPPENING ON COLLEGE DRIVE THAT WE WILL HAVE DIFFERENT KIND OF ZONING REQUESTS MAYBE, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT SOME SPECIALIZED THINGS WE MAY NEED FOR NON-PROFITS THAT KIND OF THING.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT'S ALL GOING TO COME UP BUT I JUST CAN IMAGINE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT THAT COMES BEFORE YOU SO I FELT LIKE YOU NEEDED TO BE UP TO DATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING AND IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO AND IF YOU NEED A FORMAL PRESENTATION WE CAN BRING THE TEAM AND WE CAN DO THAT TOO.
SO. >> ANYBODY WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY? IF NOT, WE MAY HAVE YOU LIASE I DON'T SEE CHEREESE, ONE OF ED'S PEOPLE, KELLY.
WE WILL GET YOU ON THE AGENDA. >> OKAY.
[1. Public Hearing to consider CPA 2021-17. (District 1, Comm. Cella) (D. Selig)]
OKAY OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR TONIGHT IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CPA 2021-17 THIS APPLICATION IS A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO THE 2040 FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND MS. SELIG YOU HAVE THIS ONE.>> I DO. THIS TIME WILL BE GOING FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ON NEXT TUESDAY NIGHT, THE 14TH. THE APPLICANT IS THE CLAY COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, PROPERTY INVOLVED IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF COLLEGE DRIVE JUST NORTH OF BRICKYARD ROAD IN THE DOCTORS'S IN RIDGE ROOD PLANNING AREA UNDER DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER CELLA. THE APPLICATION IS FOR THREE PARCELS, THE FULL EXTENT OF TWO PARCELS AN EASTERN 3/4 OF A THIRD PARCEL. THIS TOTALS 1.2 ACRES AND THEY
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REQUEST US TO GO FROM THE CURRENT URBAN CORE USE TO COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE. ON THE RIGHT IS PROBABLY THE BEST VIEW OF THE ACTUAL PARCEL BOWEN LIST.I EVEN HAVE THE POINTER. I'LL -- THE BACK PORTION IS A FULL PARCEL THAT'S CURRENTLY VAGUE CAN'T LAND.
THERE'S A TINY SLIVER WHICH IS AN ACCESS EASEMENT AND THE 3/4 PARCEL IS THIS PIECE DOWN HERE. IT'S THAT EASTERN 3/4 OF IT.
THE AREA YOU CAN SEE IN RED IS THE EXISTING ON THE LEFT MAP IS THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE. IT'S COMMERCIAL.
THE BROWN AROUND IT IS THE EXISTING URBAN CORNER.
THE MAP IS THE PROPOSED CHANGE. CAN YOU SEE THE PLANNED CHANGES CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S A GREAT DEALT OF COMMERCIAL ALONG BOTH SIDES OF COLLEGE DRIVE REALLY FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF IT ALMOST CERTAINLY IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS AN EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING LAND USE DESIGNATION. IT'S IN KEEPING WITH THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THERE'S PUBLIC SERVICES AND UTILITIES AVAILABLE, AND THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WON'T PROMOTE URBAN SPRAWL AS IT'S AN INFILL REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CPA 2021-17.
I'LL BACK UP THE SLIDES TO MAKE ONE POINT.
I SHOULD HAVE HAD IT UP THERE. THE PROPERTY OWNER, YOU'RE GOING SEE A COMPANION REZONING NEXT MONTH FOR THESE PARCELS IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER PARCELS THAT THE SAME APPLICANT OWNS SO I'LL JUST POINT THEM OUT NOW SO YOU CAN HAVE THEM IN MIND AS FRAME MUCH REFERENCE. THESE PARCELS BUT ALSO THE ADDITIONAL ACCESS EASEMENT THIS LONG RECTANGULAR PIECE JUST TO THE NORTH AND THEN THERE'S TWO SMALL PARCELS ONE RIGHT UNDER THESE NUMBERS ONE RIGHT HERE ALL OF WHICH ARE THE SAME OWNERSHIP.
THE INTENT MY UNDERSTANDING IS TO PULL THESE ALL TOGETHER MAKE IT ONE LARGE PARCEL UNDER ONE FUTURE LAND USE AND ONE ZONING DISTRICT AND OFFER THIS AS A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY AS AN INFILL PROJECT WITHOUT IT BEING A HODGEPODGE OF SMALL PARCELS.
IT'S MORE ATTRACTIVE UNDER ONE ZONING AND LAND USE.
>> THANK YOU. ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO? IN A MINUTE.
OKAY. DOTY, I DIDN'T SEE ANY PICTURES OF THE SIGNAGE THAT WAS UP AND WHAT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT I'M NOT FACILITY WITH THIS BALBOA LANE BACK HERE.
THAT A DIRT ROAD DO YOU KNOW? >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> SO THE BACK OF THIS IS A DIRT ROAD?
OKAY. >> MR. CHAIRMAN, I DROVE AROUND THAT PARCEL TODAY. AND THAT IS A DIRT ROAD BEHIND THERE BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE WHAT WAS BACK IN THERE, AND IT'S MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL HOUSES BACK IN THERE THAT THIS FRONTS.
I WAS LOOKING FOR A SIGN YOU KNOW THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE POSTED. THERE IS ONE, BUT IT'S OUT ON COLLEGE DRIVE. THERE'S NOT ONE IN THE BACK FACING THE RESIDENTIAL AREA SO I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD WANT THE SIGN FACING THE AREA OR AT LEAST ANOTHER SIGN THAT'S FACING THE AREA WHICH IS GOING TO BE MOST HIM IMPACTING THE RESIDENCES BACK HERE BEHIND THIS DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY AS THEY COME IN LATER ON WITH MORE COMMERCIAL TO THE NORTH OF THIS MOVING ON UP. AND IT IS BALBOA IS A VERY
UNIMPROVED DIRT ROAD. >> OKAY, SO YOU DIDN'T SEE ANY
SIGNS ON BALBOA? >> NO SIGNS BACK THERE.
ONLY ONES OUT THERE ON COLLEGE. >> I'M GOING ASK A QUESTION BEFORE WE GO ON. COURTNEY.
DOES THERE HAVE TO BE SIGNAGE ON THAT ROAD OF BALBOA THAT'S ON --
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>> YES. I DIRECTED THE APPLICANT TO PLACE THE SIGN ON THE EASEMENT AT CORNER OF COLLEGE BECAUSE THAT'S THE PUBLIC ROADWAY. BALBOA YOU SAID THE NAME IS, THAT'S A PRIVATE EASEMENT REALLY FOR THE THREE PARCELS THAT
>> SO, IT DIDN'T SEEM THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO PUT A SIGN DOWN THERE, WHEN THE PUBLIC REALLY WOULDN'T BE AS AWARE.
>> YOU HAD A QUESTION? >> I WENT AND LOOKED AT IT TOO AND I ACTUALLY DIDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT LOOKED TO BE THE ONLY MEANS OF INGRESS TO THOSE PARCELS WHO WOULD HAVE TO GO RIGHT PAST IT IT DIDN'T OCCUR TO ME THERE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU HAD TO DRIVE BY IT.
>> ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO GO HEAD WITH THE HEARING AND ALL. COURTNEY YOU MIGHT WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT AND SEE IF WE WERE OKAY WITH WHAT WE DID IF WE MET THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OR NOT.
OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I KNOW AT LEAST ONE GENTLEMAN WANTED TO SPEAK. COME ON UP TO THE MIC.
>> THE APPLICANT. >> I'M SORRY.
I KIND OF GOT DISTRACTED. >> LSH, JOSH COCKRELL, MANY OF YOU I KNOW, MR. GARRISON ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
WORK WITH HIM IN THE PAST. CLAY COUNTY AUTHORITY SHORTLY BEFORE THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE DRIVE I KNOW CONNIE SPOKE WITH YOU A MOMENT AGO CLAY COUNTY AUTHORITY COMMISSION SUPPORT FACILITATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CLAY COUNTY WE ARE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY IN THE COUNTY SUPPORTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT WE BUILT THE HARBOR INDUSTRIAL PARK IN GREEN COAT TO GIVE YOU THE IDEA AND SPONSORED NUMEROUS BONDS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH FOR DIFFERENT FACILITIES.
OUR BOARD STARTED LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO CLEAN UP COLLEGE DRIVE BEFORE THE INITIATIVE KICKED OFF AND SOME OF THOSE ARE THE SEVERAL PARCELS.
DOTY HAD MENTIONED SEVERAL PARCELS TOTAL 4.72 ACRES ALL HOMES ON THEM GETTING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ON COMMERCIAL LAND USE LAND FRONTING COLLEGE SO HERE WE HAVE INCAPABLE LAND USE WITH HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES SO THE CCCA BOARD STARTED IDENTIFYING THESE PARCELS AN OVERTHE PAST YEAR THROUGHOUT THIS PAST YEAR WE STARTED PURCHASING THEM. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THEM UNDER PERMIT TO BE DEMOLISH. ASKING ABOUT BALBOA AND THE ROAD RIGHT THERE THAT IS A PRIVATE EASEMENT.
WE OWN THOSE PARCELS WHICH THAT EASEMENT ACCESSES.
NO OTHER ACCESS TO THOSE PARCELS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT PARCEL FURTHER BACK OF THAT IS A WOODED A AREA WITH A DILAPIDATED HOME THAT THEY WILL IN HOVER A DECADE AGO. THE PARCELS ON THAT MAP IF YOU PULL IT UP AGAIN DOTY I CAN POINT OUT IF YOU LOOK BEHIND THAT LITTLE PRIVATE EASEMENT LIKE I SAID THERE'S A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS ON THE FRONT END OF THAT.
IT DOES NOT HAVE INGRESS EGRESS FROM THAT EASEMENT.
THE EASEMENT ATTACHES TO ALL THOSE PARCELS GOING BACK SO THE PARCEL BEHIND -- GOT THE POINTER? MIND IF I HOLD THAT? ALL RIGHT.
THE PARCEL RIGHT HERE, WE OWN THAT.
WE OWN THE FULL EASEMENT. WE OWN THIS, THIS, AND THEN THESE RIGHT HERE. SO IT'S A BIG PIECE THERE, 4.72 OR SO ACRES THESE PARCELS UP HERE AND RIGHT HERE ARE ALL COMMERCIAL. THIS BIG ONE HERE HALF OF THAT IS AGRICULTURAL AND THEN WE HAVE THIS BACK HERE, THIS ONE PARCEL HERE IS ACTUALLY DUAL LAND USE AS WELL.
IT'S COMMERCIAL AND UC-10. THE EASEMENT IS ACTUALLY SPLIT AS WELL, SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS ASSEMBLING ALL THIS TO MAKE ONE BIG PIECE MANY WE ARE GOING CLEARING RASING THE HOMES AN PRIMING IT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH WE WILL COME BACK FOR THE ZONING NEXT MONTH. YOU ASKED ABOUT THE SIGN.
WE FOLLOW STAFF DISCRETION SIGN PLACED HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY ACCESS POINT TO THESE PARCELS MANY ANYBODY DRIVING DOWN THESE EASEMENTS ARE TRESPASSING PRIVATE PROPERTY.
BACK HERE IS A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY TO GET TO HOMES BACK HERE AS
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WELL SO THE SIGN IS PLACED IN THE RIGHT LOCATION.ANY QUESTIONS? >> I GOT ONE QUESTION.
THE HALF PARCEL TO THE NORTH, AS THEY ARE, ARE YOU WITH ME?
YES. >> IS YOUR INTENT TO OBTAIN THAT ALSO AND CONVERT TO IT COMMERCIAL?
>> WHICH HALF PARCEL ARE YOU SPEAKING OF?
THE NUMBERS ARE BLOCKING IT. >> I CAN'T -- IT'S RIGHT IN
THERE. >> WE OWN THIS WHOLE PIECE HERE.
>> OKAY, BUT THIS IS A.R. >> IT'S ADULT ZONE PROPERTY.
>> WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS DUAL ZONE PROPERTY NO NO, WE ALREADY OWN IT THIS IS DUAL ZONED AS WELL.
THIS IS COMMERCIAL HALF OF AT THIS TIME.
OR BACK HALF OF IT IS A.R. >> OKAY RIGHT WHERE MY POINTER IS POINTING YOU INDICATED THAT YOU OWNED THIS PARCEL HERE, AND THIS PARCEL ON THE BACK SIDE OF ITS A.R.
>> IT'S ONE PIECE, SIR. >> I KNOW BUT YOU SAID IT HAD
TWO ZONINGS ON IT. >> IT HAS DUAL ZONINGS.
>> MY ONLY QUESTION IS YOU'RE COMING BACK TO REZONE THAT FROM THE U.C. 10 OR A.R. BACK TO COMMERCIAL?
>> ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU FOR NOW.
WE MAY ASK YOU BACK. [INAUDIBLE]
>> COME ON UP. YOUR NAME, SIR?
>> DEAN KRE LANO DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE PROJECTED CHANGE OF ZONING.
EXACTLY ONE ACRE RIGHT THERE, DIRECTLY BEHIND PACE, RIGHT THERE. THAT'S ME.
YEAH. BUILT MY HOME 20 YEARS AGO, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF CONSTRUCTION THIS MONTH, MOVED IN IN FEBRUARY 20 YEARS AGO. I AGREE THAT THERE'S BEEN A DILAPIDATED 10 YEARS OR SO AGO THAT COLLAPSED.
THE SIGNAGE WAS MY FIRST CONCERN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONNECTION AND YOUR EASEMENT SUGGESTION IS WHEN THE CHURCH WAS BUILT YEARS AGO, BALBOA WAS OFFERED BY THE CHURCH AS AN EASEMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL INCLUDING ME AND NORTH OF ME ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL. MY CONCERN IS WHAT'S GOING UP THERE OR WHAT'S THE INTENT I SEE TO YOU KNOW MAKE IT ALL ONE BIG PIECE WHEN NOBODY WANTED TO OFFER AN EASEMENT SEWER AND WATER FOR PACE CENTER FOR GIRLS, DID I, BECAUSE I'VE GOT A POWER EASEMENT THAT LEFT MEAN UNABLE TO BUILD ANYWAY.
SO, I OFFERED THAT AND MY QUESTION OBVIOUSLY WHEN I SAW THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN ALL OF A SUDDEN I'M OFFERED UP A SEWER AND WATER EASEMENT AND NOW RIGHT IN THE HEART OF RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY EAST OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY I'M DIRECTLY SOUTH, TWO ACRES BEYOND IS MORE RESIDENTIAL, AND BALBOA LANE IS AN EASEMENT, ESTABLISHED EASEMENT FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS NOW. I'VE BEEN THERE 26.
SO, I WAS NOT AWARE UNTIL I CAME BACK WHEN I FOUND THIS IN THE MAIL, BECAUSE THE SIGN IS OUT THERE AT COLLEGE AND NOT CONNECTED TO THIS PIECE AT ALL. EVEN KNOW I GUESS YOU'RE SUGGESTING YOU OWN THAT, AND THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WAS ACQUIRED BY CLAY COUNTY DEVELOPMENT BUT A YEAR AGO, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO WHEN PACE WAS TRYING TO REZONE TO BUILD, I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL, HAD SOME MEDICAL SITUATIONS AND WAS NOT ABLE TO SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THE EASEMENT WAS NOT ALLOWED TO GO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THEIR THREE ACRE PROPERTY, WHICH IS MY EASEMENT TO COLLEGE, MY OFFICIAL EASEMENT ON THE PACE PROPERTY
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OUT TO COLLEGE DRIVE. BUT WHEN THE CHURCH BUILT, THEY AGREED TO ESTABLISH AND LEAVE BALBOA AS AN EASEMENT FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS DOWN BALBOA, SO I GUESS SUDDENLY BALBOA BEING A, YOU KNOW, TO SUGGEST THAT THE ONLY EASEMENT IS FROM COLLEGE IS NOT TRUE. IT'S ESTABLISHED BALBOA -- I'M TRYING TO RECALL WHAT YEAR IT WAS WHEN THE CHURCH WAS BUILT, BUT A DOZEN YEARS AGO, ANYWAY. SO MY CONCERN WAS YOU KNOW LIFT STATION WHAT WAS THE INTENT OR GETTING IN THE MIDST OF THAT RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE IT IS RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST, DIRECTLY SOUTH WHERE I AM.THERE'S A VACANT LOT NEXT TO ME THAT'S SPLIT IN HALF.
ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL HOME. IT'S OUR STREET.
SO, MY CONCERNS ARE AS SUCH, HOWEVER YOU ADDRESS THAT GOING
THANK YOU, SIR. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM.
COME ON UP. >> MY NAME IS DELIA BERANARDINO.
I'M RETIRED. IN 2015 CLOSE TO MY RETIREMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IN FLORIDA, I DECIDED ON BUYING SOME LAND CLOSE TO THE GENTLEMAN HERE WHERE THERE'S CONSTRUCTION I DON'T KNOW FOR DRAINAGE OR WHAT.
BUT AROUND THREE YEARS AGO, I MEAN, WE HAVE BEEN FLOODING IN THE AREA FOR A WHILE. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE THAT THERE'S A DRAINAGE I MEAN LAND BEHIND THE AREAS AND THE PARCELS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, HAS PEOPLE BUILT ON THE FRONT LIKE THE GIRLS BUILDING AND ALL THAT, THEY'RE SINKING US ON THE BACK.
SO, I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S THE PLAN WHAT IS IT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING BY YOUR DIRT ROAD THERE.
>> THAT'S THE WATER -- >> AND I WONDER WHERE IT'S GOING
TO BE. >> MA'AM, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS US. OKAY?
>> OKAY. WHERE THE DRAINAGE AND WHAT I SEE ALL THE PLUMBING AND THE BIG MACHINES, WHERE IS THAT GOING TO END? ANYWAY, YEAH, I HAVEN'T BEEN COMING TO MEETINGS BEFORE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE AREA, BUT YOU KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE WONDERFUL COLLEGE DRIVE, COMMERCIALS. YOU KNOW, THE LANDS ARE GOING HIGHER AND WE HAVE BEEN SEEING BACK THERE.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
GO AHEAD, JOE. COME BACK UP? >> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS THAT THAT EASEMENT OF THAT ROAD, BALBOA, ACTUALLY IS ON YOUR PROPERTY LINE OR DOES IT RUN
THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY? >> IT'S ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE
THE CONCERN I HAVE IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN ACCESS ROAD FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA AN THOSE PARTICULAR THOUGHTS THAT ARE THERE. ALSO A QUESTION IF I MAY I WANT TO DIRECT IT BACK OVER TO DOTY THAT ON PAGE, IT'S NOT ON COLORED ON THIS PARTICULAR SCREEN, BUT THERE'S ALSO BAY VIEW LANE. IS THAT ALSO AN EASEMENT DIRT ROAD? WHAT IS THAT PROPERTY?
IS THAT DEVELOPED IN ANY WAY? >> THAT'S THE ACCESS TO THE
>> COUNTY ROAD ACCESS TO THE CHURCH.
>> IT'S A CHURCH ON THAT, OKAY. SO MY QUESTION JOSH THEN IS IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW ACCESS THERE, POSSIBLY CHANGE OF PROPERTY DESIGNATION LINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT EASEMENT FOR THE
RESIDENTS THAT LIVE BACK THERE? >> I'M CONFUSED AS TO THE QUESTION COMMISSIONER. BALBOA LANE IS A PRIVATE
>> PRIVATE ROADWAY WITH NO INAGREES OR EGRESS TO OUR
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PARCELS IN BACK. >> I THINK WHAT HE'S ASKING IS DOES ANY OF THAT EASEMENT SIT ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S UNDER
>> IT DOES NOT. >> SO IT WOULD HAVE NO EFFECT THEN ON ANYONE HAVING TO USE THAT.
>> NO. >> AS AN EASEMENT FOR INGRESS AN
EGRESS? >> NO, AN POINT REAL QUICK I
WANT TO POINT. >> IT'S HEARTED TO TELL THE WAY
THESE MAPS ARE LAID OUT. >> YES.
IT WOULD BE EASIER. THE ZONING WITNESS AS WELL YOU COULD PROBABLY SEE BETTER BUT I DON'T WANT TO POINT THIS OUT TO YOU GUYS. SO AGAIN, WE OWN EVEN THIS EASEMENT THAT WE GAIN ACCESS TO IS ASSEMBLED IN ONE BIG PIECE MANY AGAIN WE ARE RIGHT HERE AND WE DROP DOWN AND WE GET ALL THIS. RIGHT? NOW, WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THIS PIECE HERE WE TRIED TO ACQUIRE.
THIS PIECE, THIS PIECE, AND THEN THESE TWO HOUSES, SO IT'S A HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE.
THIS ONE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 5 YEARS.
ALL THESE 4 PIECES HERE THIS IS COMMERCIAL ALREADY, GIVE YOU AN IDEA. THEY'VE BEEN HOMESTEADED.
THIS ONE IS VACANT. HOME ASSISTED COMMERCIAL, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT'S COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW OR RESIDENTIAL AND THESE TWO BACK HERE ARE REST COMFORTABLE BUT OUGHT FOUR OF THESE ARE FAMILY. THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO SELL THESE FOUR PARCELS AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES FOR THE LAST THREE FOUR YEARS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA SO I UNDERSTAND THE GENTLEMAN'S CONCERN BUT PEOPLE RELY ON BALBOA BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO SELL OUTLAW ALL THIS AS COMMERCIAL ALREADY AND BEING A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD I'M SURE THEY ALL TALK SO IF WE COULD HAVE PURCHASED THAT WE WOULD HAVE BUT WE HAVE SPENT 1.2 MILLION OF OUR FUNDS TO TRY TO REDEVELOP THIS TO CATS LIES THIS BRING COLLEGE DRIVE ATTENTION MOUNTAINOUS AS A GOVERNMENT AGENCY WHICH WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS BUT WE ARE HAVING TO TAKE CHALLENGE PROPERTY LIKE THIS AND PUT THEM BACK ON THE TAX ROLLS SO WE ARE SPURRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THIS THIS
AREA TO REDEVELOP COLLEGE. >> SO I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THAT EASEMENT ROAD.
IT DOES SEEMING TO THROUGH TWO MORE A.R. LOTS.
>> THIS ROAD RIGHT HERE. >> NORTH AN EAST.
>> THIS SPLIT MR. COMMISSIONER, THESE SPLITS THIS, LOT HERE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS. IT'S ALL WOODED BUT THIS LOT HERE AND THIS LOT AND THESE TWO LOTS HERE ALONG WITH THESE, UTILIZE BALBOA SO BALBOA SPLITS. THESE ARE ACTUAL ACTUAL
HOMESTEAD PARCELS HERE. >> AND THOSE PEOPLE USE BALBOA.
>> BALBOA PRIVATE DRIVEWAY YES. >> SO MY QUESTION IS THAT WILL
NOT CUT THEM OFF? >> IT WILL NOT CHANGE
WHATSOEVER. >> THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.
>> ANYONE ELSE? QUESTION? OKAY, THANK YOU. WELL, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL -- I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
AND KEEP IN MIND EVERYBODY THAT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE LAND CHANGE, NOT THE ZONING. JUST BASICALLY ON PAGE 5 THAT MAP IS TURNED THAT SITE RED AND ZONING WILL COME LATER.
>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. >> ALL RIGHT, I HAVE A --
>> A SECOND. >> SECOND FROM MR. GARRISON A MOTION FROM MR. ANZALONE TO RECOMMEND THE STAFF REPORT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE ALL IN FAVOR STATE AYE. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON.
[2. Public Hearing to consider PUD-2021-07. (District 1, Comm. Cella)(M.Brown)]
ITEM NUMBER 2, PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A PUD 2021 DIFFICULT 07 REZONING 18.28 ACRES FROM PS-1 TO PUD.>> CHAIRMAN, PUD 2021-07 WILL BE HEARD AS YOU INDICATED EARLIER BY THE COUNTY COMMISSION NEXT TUESDAY, DECEMBER 14TH.
YES. ON THE APPLICANT IS AGAPE LIGHTHOUSE, INC., AGENT IS MR. CURTIS HART.
THE PARCEL IS LOCATED AT 2713 COUNTY ROAD 220.
IT'S IN COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 5 AND THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE ZONING ON A SINGLE PARCEL FROM PRIVATE SERVICE PS-1 TO
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DEVELOPMENT TO SINGLE FAMILY 50 UNIT DEVELOPMENT.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON COUNTY ROAD 220 APPROXIMATELY 1.6 MILES EAST O HENLEY AND HALF MILE WEST OF COLLEGE.
THERE WOULD BE 18.28 ACRES APPROXIMATELY 6.75 WILL BE WETLANDS. SO THE NET UP LAND ACREAGE IS 12.07 ACRES MANY PRESENTLY, THE PARCEL CONTAINS A VACANT CHURCH BUILDING, AND JUST A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY IN 18998 THE PARCEL WAS REZONED FROM A-R. TO PS-1 AND THE PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE URBAN CORRESPOND UC-10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
HERE IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE OUTLINE OF THE PROJECT, THE SOUTHERN PORTION IS THE ACRES THAT FALLS INTO THE WETLANDS CATEGORY. SURROUNDING ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE AROUND THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE CROSS COUNTY ROAD 220 IS AGRICULTURAL-RESIDENTIAL.
WITH URBAN CORE. EAST IS SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH R.V. ZONING AND URBAN CORE 10, WEST YOU HAVE A.R., AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL AND TO THE SOUTH, BRANDON FIELD PUD WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
FUTURE LAND USE AROUND ALL THE AREA IS URBAN CORE 10.
AS INDICATED, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN INCLUDES A 50 UNIT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE LOT AND BUILDING REQUIREMENTS PROPOSED IN THE PUD INCLUDE LOT WIDTH OF 45 FEET, MINIMUM LOT DEPTH OF 115 FEET, MINIMUM LOT AREA FOR ALL THE PARCELS IS 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE IS 75 PERCENT AND MINIMUM LIVING AREA OF 1250 SQUARE FEET. HERE IS A SITE PLAN OF THE DEVELOPMENT PARCEL PORTION OF THE PARCEL AS PROPOSED.
JUST FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 39-F OF THE COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ZONING IS CONSISTENT AND ALLOWED IN THE U.C. 10 LAND USE CATEGORY. THE U.C. 10 LAND USE CATEGORY ALLOWS FOR DENSITY UNIT MINIMUM 2 UNITS PER NET ACHE TORE MAXIMUM 10 PER NET ACRE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS JUST OVER 4 UNITS PER NET ACRE. SO, IT FITS WITHIN THE RANGE FOR THE UC-10 LAND USE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AN FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE AND PUD ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CAPABLE WITH SURROUNDING USES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF PUD 2021-07 AS SHOWN IN THE ATTACHED WRITTEN DESCRIPTION AND SITE PLAN.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.
>> IF I MAY MR. CHAIR. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THAT BECAUSE I WAS DOING MY HOME WORK.
WE ARE PS-1 AND GOING FROM PUD AND GOING CURRENTLY ZONED 10
UNITS. >> PRESENTLY IT'S ZONED PS-1
PUBLIC SERVICE. >> BUT ALLOWS UP TO 10 UNITS PER
ACHOR? >> THE FUTURE LAND USE IS UC-10
WHICH DOES ALLOW. >> THE APPLICANT IS LUKING FOR 4 UNITS PER ACHOR. HIS PLAN RESULTS IN THAT WHEN
YOU SUBTRACT OUT THE WETLANDS. >> YOU'VE GOT 12 ACRES.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I
UNDERSTOOD THAT. >> IS THAT IT?
>> YES, SIR. >> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. IS THE APPLICANT HERE?
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, CURTIS HART. [INAUDIBLE]
>> DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S ON. YEAH.
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I'M BASHFUL. CURTIS HART, 8051 TERRA LANE, JACKSONVILLE, FLA H FLORIDA. MR. CHAIRMAN I'D APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD FLIP UP THAT SITE PLAN.THAT'S PRIMARILY WHAT I'M GOING TO.
THIS IS FOR SINGLE PARCEL LAND . . . OF UP LANDS.
WE ARE ABOUT 1.6 MILES EAST OF HENLEY.
WE ARE ACTUALLY KATY CORNER ACROSS ONE OF MY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS CALLED LAUREL OAKS THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO DOCTORS INLET ELEMENTARY. IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THE SAME RICHMOND AMERICAN HOLTZ AN WE SELL THE SAME HOMES THE AVERAGE HOMES IN THAT SUBDIVISION I CALL THIS I CALLED THE SALES AGENT BY I CAME AND HE INDICATED THE AVERAGE HOME IT WAS SELLING FOR $350,000 IN THAT SUBDIVISION SO IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR US. I WOULD LIKE TO PICK UP THIS PIECE AN DEVELOP MAGRUDER WE ARE ALLOWED UNDER THE LAND USE TEN UNITS PER ACRE. THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY FOR DEVELOPMENT. WE ABUT THE GLAID SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST SO THE REASON I DID A PUD IS SO THAT I COULD SHOW THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS THE IMPACT I'M GOING TO HAVE ON THEM AND THE MOST MOST DOESN'T ABUTTING PROPERTY IS THE GLADES SO I DESIGNED THE SUBDIVISION SO WOULD IT IMPACT THE GLADES THE LEAST AN THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE PUD.
SO I TOOK THOSE THREE LOTS TO THE EAST THERE AND BACKED THEM UP TO THE GLADES LOTS AND THERE'S THREE LOTS THAT WE BACK UP TO ON THE GLADES. THEN I PUT THE POND NEXT TO THE GLADES AND THEN I PUT THE PUMP STATION, THAT PUMP STATION THERE BACKS UP TO THEIR PUMP STATION. SO, I'M TRYING TO DO THE LEAST IMPACT AND I LEFT SOME MORE BUFFERS NEXT TO THE GLAID.
SO MY THOUGHT ON THE DESIGN WAS TO IMPACT THE GLADES THE LEAST AND BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE LOOKING OUT THERE.
THEY'RE USED TO LOOKING AT THAT CHURCH.
THERE'S A CLOSED CHURCH THERE. THEY'RE USED TO LOOKING AT THAT THE I WANTED TO HAVE SOME BUFFERS MANY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WE HAVE A 20 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND BUFFER AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY THEY EVER A 20-FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT BUFFER SO IT GETS A LOT OF DISTANCE BETWEEN THE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE AND OUR HOMES SO THAT WAS MY INTENT ON THIS DESIGN AND THAT'SY WENT TO A PUD RATHER THAN TRYING TO DO STRAIGHT ZONING.
WE ESSENTIALLY DUPLICATED DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE TREATMENT IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE WORKED WELL WITH THE DOCTORS INLET SCHOOL THERE REDID SOME OF THEIR PLAYGROUND THERE PROVIDED A CONNECTION BETWEEN THE SCHOOLS SO IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE ARE DOING DRIVE INTO THE LAUREL OAKS ACROSS KATY CORNER ACROSS THE STREET.
TO THE WEST OF ME IS ON AREAS. IT'S ZONED FOR, IT'S GOT RESIDENTS ON IT. 220 IS FOUR LANE.
WE WILL BE USING RICHMOND AMERICAN AND REMIND YOU WE ARE IN THE URBAN CORE AREA AND I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY THAT YOU DEVELOP THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE YOU PUT THIS TYPE OF DENSITY AND TRY TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE RULES MANY BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MY BACKGROUND I'VE DONE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, LINDA LAKES YOU MAY KNOW IN CLAY COUNTY, OLD JENNINGS, IT'S A PRIVATE GATETH COMMUNITY. I JUST FINISHED CAMERON OAKS ON KENDALLWOOD SO I'M DOING A LARGE DEVELOPMENT ON ANNA BELL ISLAND.
>> MR. HART THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS IT THE WALL THAT HAS COD DALE OR [INAUDIBLE]
DRIVERS? >> MR. CODDALE OWNS THE
PROPERTY. >> THIS IS THE ONE WITH THE
40-FOOT WIDE LOTS. >> YES, THESE ARE 45.
>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> DON'T HAVE MR. CHAIR ANY QUESTIONS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT I JUST WANTED TO STATE I'M I'VE KNOWN THE APPLICANT FOR 20 YEARS AND WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH A GOOD DEVELOPER HERE IN CLAY COUNTY SO WITH THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
>> I DO HAVE A COUPLE MR. HART. SO, THE MINIMUM LOT DEPTH THIS
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WOULD BE 115 FEET. >> YES, SIR.
>> IF I FIGURE THE SET BACK CORRECTLY IT MEANS IT LEAVES YOU ABOUT 90 FEET OF BUILDING FRONT TO BACK.
>> YES. >> AND THE SITE SETBACKS 5 AND 5 SO CAN YOU BUILD A 35 FOOT WIDE 90 FOOT DEEP HOUSE.
>> YES. >> HOW MUCH DISTANCE, WILL THIS
INCLUDE SIDEWALKS? >> OH, SURE.
>> HOW MUCH ROOM IS THERE FROM THE SIDEWALK TO THE GARAGE
DOORS? >> THE SIDEWALK IS ON CITY PROPERTY SO THAT THE GARAGE DOOR ITSELF WILL BE 20 FEET BUT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT THIS WAY, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE HERE CAN BE 15 FEET BUT THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE HAS TO BE 20 FEET IN ORDER TO FIT TWO CARS SIDE BY SIDE AN NOT GO
THAT WAS KIND OF THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING.
>> YEAH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU'RE NOT PARKING YOUR CAR
OVER THAT SIDE. >> I HAVE A PICKUP TRUCK.
MIKE HAS ONE. WE GOT TO MEASURE THEM.
THEY'RE 20 FEET BUMPER TO BUMPER SO UNLESS SOMEBODY'S PULLING UP AND TOUCHING THEIR GARAGE DOOR WITH THEIR TRUCK WHICH THEY DON'T DO, THEY'RE HANGING OUGHT OVER THE SIDEWALK AND BLOCKING THE A PLENTY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IF THERE'S A TRAILER HITCH THERE'S A SAFETY HAZARD ON THAT SIDEWALK.
THE EAST DRIVE WAYS HAVE GOT TO BE DEEPER THAN 20 FEET.
I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT COMMENT. YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S AN ISSUE FOR ME THAT WE ARE LETTING THESE DRIVEWAYS BEE THAT SHORT, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE NOBODY PARKS IN THEIR GARAGE HARDLY. THERE'S THREE CARS.
THERE'S TWO IF YOU'RE LUCKY, THESE ARE DOUBLE WIDE DRIVEWAYS.
ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE OUT ON THE STREET SOME WHERE WHICH IS A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT OTHER DIVISION WHICH IS SINGLE CAR GARAGES WHERE THEY'VE GOT CARS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
ALL RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SSSEE THAT MORE ABOUT 25 FEET.
>> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I KNOW MR. BRAY USED TO DRIVE A BIG HUGE TRUCK. I DRIVE A BIG TAHOE AND BELIEVE IT OR HAD NOT THEY'RE SHORTER THAN 20 FEET.
>> I HAVE AN F-150 STANDARD BED STAN $CAB IT'S 20 FEET.
>> YOU PUT THE SHIN KILLER ON THE BACK.
>> THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME IS KIDS RIDING DOWN THE SIDEWALK THAT THING STICKING OUT IN THE SIDEWALK NEXT THING YOU KNOW WE GOT KIDS HURT. YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD A NICE A PLENTY BUT YOU'RE CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO DO
STUPID THINGS. >> AND I HEAR YOU AND I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE POINT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, LAST HEARING I WAS ON CAMERON OAKS ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO YOU BROUGHT
UP THE EXACT SAME POINT. >> I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS AND AS WE GO TO NARROWER LOTS, I THINK THAT AS A PLANNING ORGANIZATION WE GOT TO START RETHINKING HOW WE ARE
>> IF IT MEANS PUTTING ANGLED PARKING OUT THERE BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE STREET WE GOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU GET ON THOSE 40-FOOT LOTS WITH THREE CARS AND THERE ARE JUST CARS ALL
>> THAT'S ALL. APPRECIATE THE ANSWERS.
>> I WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
>> THANK YOU. >> I'LL DO IT BEFORE THE COUNTY
>> I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS.
DOES ANYBODY HERE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? YES, SIR. HOWEVER DOES, COME ON UP.
WE NEED A NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
>> SHEILA RYAN, 3120 LEGACY FARM ROAD.
HIS NEIGHBOR. SO, MY CONCERN IS 220 IS ONLY PARTIALLY FOUR LANED. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE ALL THE WAY TO BLANDING WHEN EAGLE HARBOR WENT IN AND IT SOMETIME HASN'T CAUGHT WITH THAT SO THERE'S A BOTTLENECK EVERY DAY TRYING TO GET OVER THE LITTLE BRIDGE AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIGH DENSITY BUNCH OF CARS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALL GO RIGHT WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY AND SO THAT'S ONE CONCERN. THE OTHER CONCERN IS, HIVE BEEN A PART OF THE RYAN FAMILY THAT OWNED THAT WHOLE PIECE, EVEN
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THAT PIECE ORIGINALLY. WE'VE WATCHED PEOPLE COME IN AND BUILD AND DROWNED US MUCH LIKE THE LADY SAID BEFORE.AND IT'S FEARFUL TO THINK SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COME IN JACK THEIR LAND UP, GUESS WHAT WE GET? YEAH. WE WERE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO GIVE THE COUNTY A LITTLE YOOECHLT. NOW IT'S A HUGE DITCH.
THEY HAVE NEVER TOOK CARE OF IT UNTIL ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CAME OUT AND DID A WONDERFUL JOB ONE DAY AND GUESS WHAT.
GLEN LAUREL WAS GOING IN AND THEY NEEDED TO PUT WATER OUT THERE. SO THEN WE HAVE CONTENDED WITH NOW EVER SINCE THAT WATER COMING SUCH A FLOOD DOWN THAT DRIVE DOWN THAT DITCH, TREES FALL, THE WATER RESULTS THEM OUT, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO HIT A CAR OR PERSON.
CUTS ACROSS OUR LAND AND THEN GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO HIS EDGE NOW, WHERE CHAT COULDN'T EVEN CROSS ANYMORE SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT THAT ON THAT SIDE. IF WE'VE GOT IT COMING ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE EITHER BUT WE ARE NOT GOING, YOU KNOW. IT'S OUR HOME.
SO THOSE ARE TWO BIG CONCERNS THAT I HAVE FOR THAT.
>> OKAY. >> AND I'M TRYING TO THINK IF THERE'S ONE MORE. BUT I'LL STOP FOR ME.
AND NORMALLY I DON'T COMMENT BECAUSE IT IS JUST PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT THE ROAD 220 IS CURRENTLY UNDER BOND, RIGHT? TO REBUILD THAT BRIDGE HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
[INAUDIBLE] >> THAT'S GOING TO GO FIXED.
>> GAOEF A PROJECTION OF ONE DAY WHEN?
>> I THINK IT'S WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS [INAUDIBLE]
>> IT DOESN'T HELP THE FLOOD WE GET.
>> IT WILL HELP THE ROAD. SOMEONE ELSE SAID THEY WANTED TO COME UP BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANY CARDS HERE.
>> ALBERT HENRY, 1788 EMERALD LANE.
I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPOSAL.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHY I OWE POST. THIS I MOVED TO MY PRESENT LOCATION 33 YEARS AGO IN 1988 AND AT THAT TIME I BELIEVED CLAY COUNTY WAS THE BEST KEPT SECRET IN FLORIDA.
SINCE THEN DEVELOPERS HAVE RUN AMUCK AND HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY ALTERED THE CHARACTER OF CLAY COUNTY.
OUR PROPERTY ABUTTED SOME WETLANDS WHICH COULD NEVER BE DEVELOPED UNTIL THEY COULD BE DEVELOPED.
APPARENTLY IT TOOK SOME MONEY GIVEN TO THE RIGHT LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT AND SUDDENLY THEY COULD BE DEVELOPED.
THEY WERE FILLED IN AND PUD, LOOKS LIKE 6-8 UNITS PER ACRE WAS BUILT THERE. I PUT UP AN 8 FOOT FENCE BUT THAT DIDN'T DETER PEOPLE THROWING TRASH OVER IT.
I COULD COLLECT BOXES OF BEER BOTTLES AND WINE BOTTLES THAT PEOPLE HAVE THROWN OVER THE FENCE.
KIDS COME OVER THE FENCE AND GET INTO THE CARS AND STEAL.
THE NOISE IS TERRIFIC. ONE OF MY SO-CALLED NEIGHBORS PLAYS LOUD MUSIC EVERY SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND SNOOUND ALL DAY SO THAT I HAD TO CALL THE SHERIFF. THEN 220 WAS WIDENED AND ISLAND WAS PLACED BETWEEN THE EAST AN WEST LANES SO THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY AND GO EAST AND AS THE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED AND INCREASED IT TAKES LITERALLY 5 MINUTES TO GO EAST BECAUSE I HAVE TO TURN WEST AND MAKE A U-TURN AND WAIT FOR THE TRAFFIC TO CLEAR AGAIN TO TURN. SO, THIS PLANNED UNIT COULD ULTIMATELY END UP WITH 10 HOUSES PER ACRE.
EVERYONE OF THOSE HOUSES WILL HAVE TWO CARS OR ONE CAR AND A MOTORCYCLE. SO THERE COULD BE 200 MORE CARS GOING DOWN 220. SO, ZONING RULES WERE MADE TO PROTECT PROPERTY OWNERS FROM UNREASONABLE DEVELOPMENT AND I
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THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. IT'S CHANGING THE ZONE TO PUD IS NOT GOING TO BENEFIT ANYBODY BUT THE DEVELOPER.MY SNAIM IS JAMES BUTLER. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT I LIVE AT 3116 LEGACY FARM ROAD USED TO [INAUDIBLE] AND THERE WAS A PART OF THE LAND WAS PURCHASED AND BUILT SO THEN IT BECAME LEGACY FARM. WE TRIED TO GET IT NAMED AFTER RYAN PATRIARCH THAT DIDN'T WORK. MR. RYAN IS MY MOTHER IN LAW.
SHE LIVES IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR. YOUNG MANNED HER IS NICOLAS HUFF. NICK IS MARRIED TO MY DAUGHTER AND THEY CURRENTLY RESIDE IN WHAT WE CALLED POPPI'S HOUSE, SO MR. GLENN WOOTEN RYAN DIED LAST YEAR 98 NOT COVID.
HE WAS HERE FOREVER. MY WIFE CONDITIONAL KIM JONG-IL WAS RAISED ON THAT LAND. I'M THE GUY THAT MARRIED INTO THE FAMILY. I WORK FOR THE NAVY.
RETIRED FROM THE NAVY RESERVE. I WAS NAVY LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I ALSO WORKED ON [INAUDIBLE] I'VE SEEN A LOT OF THIS BLOW UP.
THE DEVELOPMENT IS COOL IN A A LOT OF WAYS BUT WHEN I MARRIED INTO THIS FAMILY THIS FARM IS A TREASURE.
IT'S NICE AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THE GOOD LORD HAS SMILED ON US BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN PLANS TEND TO GO HERE OR MOVE HERE WERE CHANGED WHEN THE DAUGHTER AND THE SON-IN-LAW WANT TO MOVE ONTO THE FAMILY FARM. SO I'LL LET HIM SPEAK FOR HIMSELF. I KNOW HE'S TALKED ABOUT PLANS FOR AGRICULTURE, HE'S HAD PLANS FOR FARM ANIMALS BECAUSE THEY LIVE IN JACKSONVILLE TO COME OUT HERE KEEP THIS IN THE FAMILY.
OUR CONCERN A LOT OF IT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS DEVELOPMENT, DRAINAGE IS TERRIBLE.
I MEAN THIS PLACE LIKE THEY TALK ABOUT, THE GLADES BUILT UP, CAME IN BUILT A WALL LOOKS LIKE A MOAT LIKE THEY BUILT A WALL GOING TO A SHOOTING RANGE COVERED IN DIRT.
OKAY. YOU GOT DRAINAGE COMING BACK IN.
GLADES AIN'T THAT BAD BUT THEY JUST PUT A NURSING HOMING OR A MENTAL WHAT DO THEY CALL IT ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY IS GOING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IN ONE OF THE RECTANGLES 220 SEA WHEN THEY DID THAT IT SHOVRS MORE WATER BACK SO THOUSAND WE'VE GOT A SWAMP BACK THERE EXTENDING BEYOND OUR HOUSES SO YOU LOCK AT ANGORA BAY THEY'RE DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY HERE EVERYBODY WANTS TO MOVE TO FLORIDA BUT WHEN THEY BY A SLIVER SHAPED IN AN ODD SHAPE AND BILLED AS MANY HOUSES AS THEY CAN IF YOU LOOK AT SALVATION ARMY IF YOU THROW A HIT YOU'LL HIT MISS RYANS HOUSE. OUR CONCERN IS YOU TAKE A PROPERTY LIKE THAT YOU MAKE VALID POINTS YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT UNTIL YOU SEE HOW CONGESTED THIS IS GOING TO BE SO IF WE START PUTTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THAT MANY HOUSES RIGHT OFF OF 220 I'M CONCERNED WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE RIGHT ON THE TOP OF THAT AREA THERE IS THAT DRAINAGE THAT IS NOT ADEQUATE. OKAY.
SO, CONGESTION, MY GOD LIKE I SAID GOING DOWN TO HENLEY IS TERRIBLE BECAUSE MS. RYAN'S MOTHER LIVES IN LAKE ASBURY AND HAS LIVED THERE 30-40 YEARS AN TRYING TO GET TO HENLEY IS ROUGH BECAUSE OF BOTTLENECK AND WATCHING THE SCHOOL AND I WORK AT NS JACKS I BETTER GET UP EARLY TO GET THERE ON TIME.
SO THAT'S THE CONCERN I SEE WITH THAT.
BUT WE PLANNED TO DEVELOP THE FARM, DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, AND THE ISSUE ALSO BECOMES TRESPASSING.
LIKE THE OTHER GENTLEMAN MENTIONED A WHILE AGO HE MENTIONED TRESPASSING. WHAT WE HAVE HAD IS ANGORA BAY, WE HUNT THE PROPERTY, WE HUNT. DEER HUNTERS IN SEASON, TURKEYS EVERYWHERE, IT'S REALLY NICE AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE KIDS COME OVER THE FENCE AND YOU CATCH THEM ON GAME CAMERAS, PRETTY NICE BEAR THE OTHER DAY, A BLACK BEAR COME THROUGH THE PROPERTY BUT YOU'LL CATCH KIDS OUT THERE AND THEY'LL STEAL THE GAME CAMERA OR GET ON THE PROPERTY. THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE PROBLEMS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN BECAUSE WE HUNT AND I'M FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT. NOT REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO TRESPASSING BECAUSE IT'S PITCH DARK OUT THERE AND I'M NOT
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MAKING ANY KIND OF BOLD THREATS. LIKE HE IS MENTIONED PEOPLE ARE BREAKING INTO CARS. IT'S NOT A FUN THING.I DON'T LEAVE A WEAPON IN A CAR. BUT IF I WALK AT NIGHT BETWEEN MY HOME AND MISS RYAN'S HOME AND I ENCOUNTER PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO MEET SOMEBODY I'M NOT REAL HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
IT'S JUST A CONCERN. I WANT TO BRING THAT UP BECAUSE BEING LAW ENFORCEMENT I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A THREATENING. THERE'S NO CASTLE DOCTRINE I'M TALKING ABOUT BUT IF YOU MEET SOMEBODY ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE YOU HAVE TO CONFRONT THEM, HOW ARE YOU DOING? WHY ARE YOU HERE? THAT'S BEEN A KERNLT WE HAVEN'T HAD IT HAPPEN LATELY BUT IF YOU GO TO THAT PROPERTY AND PUT HOUSES IN YOU BETTER PUT A WALL THERE. THAT WENT LANDS IS NICE FOR HUNTING. WE'VE GOT STANDS BACK THERE.
IT'S A NICE AREA AND THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S A PRIVILEGE TO LIVE ON A PROPERTY LIKE THAT AND I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. SO WE OPPOSE IT NOT PERSONALLY IT'S NOTHING AGAINST HIM BOUGHT IT'S WHAT WE HAVE SEEN THAT AREA GET SLAMMED FULL AND IT'S JUST GOING TO OVERFLOW AND I THINK
HEIGHTS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.
COME ON UP. I'VE BEEN LENIENT ON THE TIME.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THREE MINUTES.
I'M ASKING DON'T REPEAT STUFF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.
>> MY NAME IS NICK HUFF, 3160 LEGACY FARM ROAD.
LIVE ACCORDING TO THAT MAP EAST IF YOU'RE FACING IT FROM COLLEGE. MAYBE A LITTLE REPET TIFR BY MY CONCERN IS OF COURSE WITH THE WATER.
IT'S ALREADY VERY WET OUT THERE. YOU KIND OF SINK IN THE IT RAINS A LITTLE BUILT. DRAINAGE GETS WORSE.
IF IT GETS WITS IT'S GOING GET RID OF THE PURPOSE OF THE LAND TO BEGIN WITH. CAN'T REALLY PLANT CROPS HAVE ANIMALS OUT THERE IF IT'S TOO WET AND THEY'RE SINKING IN BREAKING ANKLES CROPS WON'T GROW BECAUSE IT'S TOO WET.
I'M ALSO CONCERNED OF COURSE LIKE THAT OTHER GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE PEOPLE THROWING TRASH OVER THE BACK NOT KNOWING WHAT'S BACK THERE AND OF COURSE, NOISE. LOTS OF NOISE ISN'T GOOD FOR FARM ANIMALS. I CAN SPOOK THEM, CAUSE THEM TO RUN GO OVER FENDS BREAK THROUGH FENCES AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL I
HAD TO ADD. >> AND SIR, YOU HAD --
>> YES, MY NAME IS JEFF CLINE. I LIVE IN THE GLAID SUBDIVISION.
I WAS WONDERING. >> COULD WE GET YOUR ADDRESS?
>> 1738 REDWOOD LANE, MIDDLEBURG.
>> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE GOING TO BE A BARRIER BETWEEN THE TWO SUBDIVISIONS A WALL OR ANYTHING?
>> WELL THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE DEVELOPER.
YOU'D WANT TO ASK THIS GENTLEMAN.
WE COULDN'T ANSWER THAT COULD YOU DO THAT AFTER THIS HEARING
IF YOU LIKE. >> I GUESS THE OTHER THING WAS, ARE THEY GOING TO BE TWO STORY HOUSES LIKE IN THE OTHER DOWN BY
THE SCHOOL? >> AGAIN, THAT'S -- SEE IF IT'S IN THE PUD. THOSE ARE REALLY QUESTIONS YOU PROBABLY WANT TO ASK THIS GENTLEMAN HERE AFTER THE
>> I WAS LOOKING AT FLOODING WITH THE RETENTION PONDS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR LINE. THAT WAS GOING TO AFFECT THE BACK YARDS. IT REALLY ISN'T GOING AFFECT ME PERSONALLY BUT THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE SUBDIVISION.
>> I GUESS THAT'S IT FOR NOW. >> OKAY.
THANK YOU. I REMIND EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE, THE BOARD WILL HEAR THIS AGAIN NEXT WEEK.
SO, YOU CAN AGAIN MAKE YOUR ARGUMENTS TO THEM NEXT TUESDAY.
THEY'LL BE HEARING THIS. YES, SIR.
MAKE IT QUICK, PLEASE. >> SORRY.
JUST ONE MORE THING. >> YOU SAID NEXT WEEK BEGINNING IT STARTED AT 4 P.M. BUT THE NOTICE WE GOT SAYS 5 P.M.
>> ANY TIME CERTAIN? >> EITHER TIME CERTAIN.
>> IT WILL BE AT 5:00. [INAUDIBLE]
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>> THEY CAN'T TAKE THESE ITEMS UP UNTIL AT LEAD 5:00.
I'M GOING CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.
>> MR. CHAIR IF I MAY. >> YES, SIR.
>> I WOULD WITH YOUR APPROVAL I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND MAYBE ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF THE FOLKS IF THAT'S OKAY.
>> THAT'S FINE WITH ME. >> THANK YOU MR. BRAY.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE FOR JUST A SECOND.
MOST PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT DRAINAGE AND I WOULD TOO IF SOMEBODY WAS DEVELOPING NEXT TO ME BUT ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO ANALYZE THE SITE BEFORE WE DEVELOP IT AND WE'VE DETERMINED WHAT WATER IS DOING BEFORE WE DEVELOP IT.
THAT'S CALLED PRE-DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WE CANNOT IMPACT ANYTHING THAT'S NOT CURRENT BY BEING IMPACTED, MORE THAN IT DID BEFORE WE DEVELOPED SO IT'S PRE- AND POST.
IT CAN'T EXCEED THAT SO WE NEVER CAN INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE ARE ALLOWING TO GO OFF OUR PROPERTY AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE RETENTION POND IS TO HOLD THAT WATER UNTIL IT CAN DISCHARGE AT THAT RATE. AND THAT'S BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE THE LATE 80. IT'S WATER MANAGEMENT RULES WE HAVE TO BE PERMITTED. NOW, THERE'S A LARGE DITCH BEHIND THE GLADES PROPERTY AND WE ARE ALLOWED A 20 FOOT EASEMENT PART OF THAT SAME WATERWAY ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY AND THEN ON THE WEST PROPERTY WHICH IS WHERE I ASSUME THESE PEOPLE LIVE, THERE'S A LARGE DITCH THAT SITS ON OUR PROPERTY THAT WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE AND KEEP THE LOTS OFF IT AND MAINTAIN IT ONCE WE DEVELOP WE WILL MAINTAIN THAT DITCH WHICH IT TAKES THEIR WATER AS WELL AS OUR WATER AND SENDS IT TO A LARGE POND TO THE SOUTH. SO, THE WATER ITSELF, THE MOVEMENT OF THE WATER WILL IMPROVE BY EVERYTHING THESE RETENTION PONDS. WE WILL FENCE ON BOTH SIDES, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH COMMIT TO GO THAT.
THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO SO WE WILL HAVE A FENCE BETWEEN THE GLADES AND A FENCE BETWEEN THESE FOLKS TO THE WEST. SO, WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT AFRAID OF THAT. THAT WAS THE TWO PRIMARY SUBJECTS AND THERE WILL BE, TODAY I'D SAY TEN YEARS AGO MOST HOMES ABOUT 10 PERCENT OF ALL HOMES WERE TWO STORY.
TODAY IT SEEMS MORE LIKE 50 PERCENT.
DON'T KNOW WHAT STATISTICS ARE. MR. BOURRÉ YOU MAY KNOW.
I WOULD THINK OVER HALF THESE HOMES BUILT PEOPLE THEY WANT TWO STORY HOMES. NOW THEY'RE ADDING OFFICES DUE TO A LOT OF THIS COVID STUFF THEY'RE ADDING OFFICES AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO JUST I ANTICIPATE A LOT OF TWO STORY HOMES AND THAT'S ABOUT ALL THAT I CAN RESPOND TO UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A
>> JUST ONE QUESTION. I'M ASSUMING THE PUMP STATION IS
DRAINING TO. >> NO, THE PUMP STATION IS FOR
>> SO IT TIES INTO A SEWER LINE. ACTUALLY, WHAT I'M -- CCUA I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DEAL WITH THEM, CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY IS ASKING ME TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE PUMP STATION OF THE GLADES OFFLINE. IT'S VERY OLD AND THEY WANT TO TAKE IT OFFLINE. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE ALL OF THE SEWER OUGHT OF THE GLADES AND I'M GOING TO BUILD A BRAND NEW PUMP STATION AN TAKE THE GLADES AND MY SUBDIVISION AND IT'S PRETTY THINKING AHEAD FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME BECAUSE THEY GET RID OF A PUMP STATION THAT WAY AND PICK UP A NEW ONE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO MAINTENANCE ON TOLD ONE BUT THE LIFT STATION IS STRICTLY TO HANDLE THE SEWAGE.
>> SO I'M GOING TO STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT.
>> SURE. >> BECAUSE I HAVE RETENTION PONDS ON MY PROPERTY DO. THE RETENTION PONDS DRAIN
>> WHEN THEY'RE BUILT TO CAPACITY?
>> YES THEY DOCUMENT THEY DRAIN INTO, THEY PIPE IT WHERE THE WATER IS GOING NOW IS WHERE WE HAVE TO DISCHARGE THE PUMP, THE WATER COMING OUT OF THE POND WHEN THEY FILL UP.
NOW, THEIR DESIGN MORE WHAT'S KNOWN AS A 25 YEAR STORM, THEY SHOULD NOT BE POPPING OFF AND FLOWING OUT THEY WOULD ONLY POP OFF FLOW OUT WHEN WE HAD THOSE, AND WE GET ONE OR TWO A YEAR.
>> YES. >> WHERE IT FILLS UP THERE.
IS A POP OFF ON BOTH OF THESE. THESE TWO PONDS ARE CONNECTED AND THEY POP OFF INTO THE SOUTH INTO THAT BEEN LARGE WET LAND.
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>> PART OF THE PROPERTY YOU'RE NOT GEFRLING.
>> EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S A GREAT AREA TO FLOW THE
WATER IN. >> THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.
THANK YOU. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS WELL
BUT I DID EVERYONE OTHER ONE. >> SURE.
>> THE DRAINAGE DITCH THAT'S ON THE TOP OF THAT PICTURE.
>> THE WEST SIDE. >> WHEN YOU PUT UP YOUR FENCE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT ON YOUR SIDE OF THE DITCH OR ON THE
PROPERTY LINE? >> WELL, MY DESIRE IS TO PUT IT ON THE PROPERTY LINE SO I CAN MAINTAIN THAT DITCH.
SEE, IF I PUT THE FENCE ON THIS SIDE, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN I DECIDE WE WILL TURN THAT DITCH, WE WILL MAINTAIN IT AND GET IT READY MAKE SURE THERE'S NO BLOCKAGE IN IT AND THEN WE KEEP MAINTENANCE ON IT SO I DESIRE AND WHAT I WOULD DO IF WATER IS FLOWING, I HAVEN'T DONE THESE WATER STUDIES BUT I THINK WATER IS FLOWING FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST INTO THIS PROPERTY.
AND WE WOULD RAISE THAT FENCE SLIGHTLY TO MAKE SURE IN HIGH RAIN EVENTS THAT WATER FLOWS UNDER THAT FENCE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BLOCK THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF LEAVING THAT DITCH THERE IS TO TAKE THAT WATER AND YEAH I WOULD WANT TO PUT IT ON
THE PROPERTY LINE. >> BECAUSE THE OTHER THING AND IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT BUT I'VE RUN INTO STORIES OF IT. PEOPLE THAT OWN THOSE LOTS DON'T LIKE THAT DITCH IN THEIR BACKYARD.
NEXT THING YOU KNOW THEY'RE FILLING IT IN.
>> RIGHT. >> IS THE HOA EMPOWERED TO KEEP
THE DITCH OPEN? >> ABSOLUTELY.
I WILL PUT IN THEY WON'T OWN AT THIS TIME.
HOA WILL OWN MAGRUDER IF YOU PUT IT IN THE LOST THE HOMEOWNERS, ALL OF US ARE HOMEOWNERS BUT THEY WON'T MAINTAIN IT.
THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT MAINTAIN IT.
YOU HAVE TO PUT IT IN A BODY THAT WILL MAINTAIN IT.
>> OKAY. >> OTHERWISE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW
IT WOULDN'T BE WORKING. >> I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD.
ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO OPEN
IT UP FOR A MOTION. >> I'LL MOTION.
>> I'LL SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. LET'S SEE MR. NORTON AND MR. BOURRÉ. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT BEFORE I TAKE THE VOTE. YOU GUYS KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THESE NARROW LOTS AND I DON'T -- I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BUT ONLY BECAUSE MR. HART IS TELLING ME HE'S GOING TO LOOK AT THAT 20 FOOT FOR THE GARAGE. IF WE ADDRESS -- THE NARROW LOTS LEAD TO PROBLEMS WITH TOO MANY CARS.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE. I THINK YOU CAN PUT HOUSES ON THERE A LOT. IN FACT I BELIEVE MR. GARRISON SHOWED US SOMETHING ONE TIME BUT THOSE HOUSES HAD REAR LOADED GARAGES WITH ALLEY WAYS WHICH IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.
SO, I KNOW WE ONLY REQUIRE YOU TO PLAN FOR TWO CARS BUT I BET THE AVERAGE IS MORE LIKE TWO AND A HALF DPIND ONG THE AGE OF THE KIDS IN THERE. RIGHT? SO AS SOON AS THEY'RE OLD ENOUGH FOR A CAR THERE'S A THIRD CAR IN THAT DRIVEWAY. SO WITH THAT I'LL TAKE THE VOTE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION STATE AYE.
DONE WITH THAT ONE. THANK YOU.
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NEXT ITEM. OLD BUSINESS NEW BUSINESS.I DON'T SEE CHEREESE. ED, ANYTHING OLD OR NEW BUSINESS? OKAY.
>> WE HAVE UPCOMING VACANCIES. >> WANT TO TURN ON THE MIC?
>> HELLO. YES, WE HAVE SOME UPCOMING VACANCIES FOR PLANNING COMMISSION SO IF YOU GUYS WANT TO RENEW YOUR TERMS, PLEASE TURN IN YOUR APPLICATIONS.
I HAVE COMMISSIONER BRAY, COMMISSIONER NORTON COMMISSIONER
GARRISON AND COMMISSIONER DAVIS. >> 4 AND 3 NEXT TIME IS THE WAY
IT WORKS. >> RESUBMIT THOSE APPLICATIONS,
IS EMAIL ADEQUATE. >> YEAH, THERE'S A LINK ONLINE AND I CAN FORWARD THEM. [INAUDIBLE]
>> I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE JANUARY MEETING.
I WILL DOUBLE CHECK. FOR THE BOARD TOO.
>> THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IT IN DECEMBER MANY THEY NEVER DO.
TYPICALLY THEY DO IT IN JANUARY, AND WHICH IS WHY WE WILL DO OUR RE-ORG IN FEBRUARY BECAUSE BY THEN WE SHOULD KNOW WHO IS ON
THE BOARD WHO IS NOT. >> I CAN CONFIRM THAT IN EMAIL.
ANYTHING ELSE COME FROM THE DEPARTMENT?
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OKAY. WE HAVE ONE LAST PUBLIC HEARING.CONNIE YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? IF WANT TO TAKE A COUPLE OF
>> OKAY. I JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY GOOD HOLIDAYS THROUGH THE CHRISTMAS PERIOD HERE, AND THE OTHER HOLIDAYS THAT MAY BE GOING ON.
I THINK WE WILL BE BACK JANUARY 4TH WILL BE OUR NEXT MEETING IN THE NEW YEAR. SO WITH THAT I WOULD SAY EVERYBODY HAVE GOOD HOLIDAYS INTO MERRY
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