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          >> SCOMBLCHLT >> GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE TODAY. THIS IS A SPECIAL WORKSHOP THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS HOLDING TODAY. WE WILL NOT BE HOLDING A VOTE. BUT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THE 
          [1.  Discussion of Lake Asbury Master Plan moratorium on any proposed land use amendment or rezoning that increases the allowable residential density]
LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN PROPOSED MORATORIUM AND THE LAND USE AMENDMENT OR REZONING THAT INCREASES THE ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION OF THE MEETING. THAT WILL COME UP FOLLOWING STAFF PRESENTATION AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.  WE DO INVITE YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. 
          IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, PLEASE FILL OUT A CARD LIKE THIS. OR GET A CARD AND BRING IT UP TO THE PODIUM WITH YOU. ONE OF THE STAFF WILL PICK IT UP FOR YOU. 
          AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I HAVE SIX CARDS. AND AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE MORNING, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WILL NOT BE VOTING ON ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE TODAY, THIS MORNING. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON'S BCC MEETING AS WELL, NUMBER 24 ON THE AGENDA FOR THE LATER ON TODAY. 
          SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL MOVE THROUGH TODAY, STAFF HAS GOT PRESENTATIONS, WITH A LOT OF FACTS, FIGURES, AND NUMBERS. AND THEN COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS WILL FOLLOW THAT. SO LET'S GET STARTED. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE IN ATTENDANCE HERE TODAY. AND WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE DISCUSSION OF THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN MORATORIUM ON ANY PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT THAT INCREASES ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. I WILL TURN THINGS OVER TO OUR 
          COUNTY MANAGER HOWARD TO GET US STARTED. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. GOOD MORNING, JUST TO REVIEW AND CATCH EVERYBODY UP ON NOVEMBER 9TH, ON THE BCC MEETING, COMMISSIONER BURKE REQUESTED SUPPORT FOR RESIDENTIAL DENSITY MORATORIUM. TODAY THE SLIDES ARE PUT TOGETHER BY THE STAFF TO HELP MAKE THAT DETERMINATION FOR THE BOARD. OBVIOUSLY RIGHT AFTER THAT, A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM WENT INTO EFFECT THAT EXPIRES LATER TODAY. 
          AS YOU MENTIONED, CHAIRMAN, THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING TO TALK ABOUT THIS MATTER ALSO, AFTER THIS WORKSHOP. FOR THE SLIDES, I WILL KICK THINGS OFF HERE, TALK ABOUT THE NOTICE TO WORKSHOP, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC. WE'LL GO OVER THAT. 
          GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THE LAMP. PLANNING AND ZONING PROCESS, CURRENT PLAN OF PROPOSED COMMUNITIES. MOBILITY FEES. 
          POTENTIAL FUTURE GROWTH, ROADWAY CAPACITIES, BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, SAFETY AND THEN SOME POSSIBLE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WILL BE BRIEF. 
          I'LL KICK THINGS OFF AND THEN FOLLOWED UP BY SHERI AND CHIEF LAUREN WILL COME IN TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO LINK THE DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS FROM THERE. 
          BEFORE I BEGIN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. 
          WE'LL BEGIN ON THE FIRST SLIDE. THE NOTICE TO WORKSHOP WENT OUT. 
          I WANT TO POINT OUT VERY SPECIFICALLY HERE THAT IT'S A MORATORIUM ON ANY PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT TO THE CLAY COUNTY 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT EFFECTIVELY INCREASES THE ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WITHIN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN AREA OR ANY PROPOSED REZONING THAT EFFECTIVELY INCREASES ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES OF ANY PARCEL OF LAND WITHIN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN AREA. ON THIS, HISTORY OF LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. DURING THE EARLY 2000S, REALLY QUITE A BOOM GOING ON WITH FOLKS MOVING IN AND DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON. AND DUE TO THIS ANTICIPATED GROWTH, LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN WAS DISCUSSED. IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS IN THIS SPRAWL AND GROWTH THROUGHOUT THAT CENTRAL PART OF THE AREA OF THE COUNTY. IT LED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN AND WAS VOTED ON NOVEMBER 14TH, 2006, AND IMPLEMENTING LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE PLANNED AREA. 
          THAT PLANNED AREA SPECIFICALLY HAS DIFFERENT NOMENCLATURES ADDRESSED IN THERE. 
          BASICALLY IT'S DENSITY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DENSITY WITHIN PARTICULAR AREAS, I'LL GO OVER THAT IN A SECOND WITH THE MAP, BUT WE CAN REST ASSURED THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS DENSITY PROVIDED WITHIN THE LAMP, IT HAS BEEN FOLLOWED SINCE THEN. 
          ONE EXCEPTION WAS THE HINDLEY VILLAGE CENTER THAT WAS MOVED AND THEN THERE ARE CURRENT ND VILLAGE CENTER COMING UP. THIS GRAPHIC HERE, WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS. AS YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THIS OUTLINES THE BORDER OF THE LAMP. THOSE AREAS HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW ARE A RURAL COMMUNITY. 
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THEIR DENSITY IS ONE TO ONE. THE ORANGE AREAS THERE DEPICTED HERE, AS RURAL FRINGE ARE DENSITIES THREE TO ONE AND THEN THE BROWN AREAS LOCATED INDICATED ON HERE, ARE MPC. 
          OKAY. THOSE DENSITIES ARE FIVE TO ONE. 
          THE PURPLE AREAS ARE AREAS OF VILLAGE CENTERS OR WHERE THE INTENT OF THE COMBINED EFFORT AND PUTTING THIS TOGETHER WAS TO HAVE MIXED USE, HALF COMMERCIAL AREAS AND SO FORTH. 
          THE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE LISTED ON THERE, GREEN IS GREEN, BASICALLY. 
          AND THROUGH THE FINAL NOTE TO PUT THROUGH HERE, THE VISION WAS, AS YOU LOOK AT THE ROADWAYS THROUGH HERE, THAT THE BLUE LINE GOING THROUGH THE CENTER, INITIALLY GOING EAST TO WEST AND THEN FOLLOWING SOUTH IS THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY. ANY OF THOSE DASHED LINES ON THERE ARE FUTURE ROADS THROUGHOUT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD BE PLANNED. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? 
          YES, SIR. >> WHEN YOU SPEAK OF A RATIO, IT'S ONE TO ONE ACRE. 
          ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ONE ACRE? >> THAT IS CORRECT. YELLOW WOULD BE ONE DWELLING UNIT PER ONE ACRE. MAXIMUM INDICATED WAS MPC, FIVE DWELLING UNITS FOR ONE ACRE. 
          I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO SHERIE STEWART. >> GOOD MORNING. 
          WE'LL SKIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE REVIEW. YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THIS. 
          JUST A QUICK REVIEW. ESSENTIALLY ANYBODY CAN ASK FOR ANY LANDOWNER CAN ASK FOR A ZONING OR LAND USE CHANGE. ACCORDING TO THE SIZE OF THAT LOT, LESS THAN 50 ACRES, SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT AND TAKES TYPICALLY, SMALL SCALE CHANGE TAKES TYPICALLY TWO TO 3 MONTHS FROM APPLICATION TO APPROVAL. LARGE SCALE OR ABOVE 50 ACRES TYPICALLY TAKES THREE TO FOUR MONTHS. THOSE HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE. YOU GUYS KNOW THE APPROVAL PROCESS. ESSENTIALLY IF A PLAN IS TURNED INTO US, IT GOES TO OUR STAFF PROCESSES FIRST, STAFF WILL MAKE THEIR APPROVAL. TYPICALLY THAT BOUNCES BACK AND FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT. ACCORDING TO HOW GOOD THEIR PLAN IS AND HOW GOOD THEY KNOW OUR CODE. IT COULD BE A PRETTY QUICK TURN-AROUND. 
          BUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW OUR CODE, IT'S CALLED SUBMITTAL MANAGEMENT, IF WE GO BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES ON GETTING QUESTIONS ANSWERED, IT COULD TAKE UP TO A FEW MONTHS. 
          ONCE STAFF REVIEW IS FINISHED, WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN PLANNING COMMISSION GETS TO MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU GUYS AND THEN IT COMES TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR FINAL APPROVAL OR DISCUSSION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO WHAT YOU HAVE ON THIS SLIDE IS IN LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN, THIS IS OUR CURRENT PLAN AND PROPOSED COMMUNITIES. OKAY. 
          SO THAT IS ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING WE HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE SYSTEM TODAY. 
          YOU SEE THAT IT'S 10,000318 UNITS. WHAT THAT DOES INCLUDE IS SARATOGA SPRINGS AT 4,095. YOU GUYS KNOW WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION WITH THEM. 
          THAT NUMBER POTENTIALLY IS A LITTLE HIGHER. AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, WITH SUSAN AND HER TEAM. THE REST OF THESE ARE IN SOME FORM IN OUR SYSTEM TODAY. THERE IS A FEW OF THEM THAT ARE ALREADY TOTALLY APPROVED AND BUILDING THEM. THERE'S SOME OF THEM THAT ARE IN REVIEW CURRENTLY. 
          THERE ARE SOME THAT HAVE COME TO DRC. SO THEY'RE SOMEWHERE IN OUR 
          PROCESS. >> QUESTION. >> QUESTION, GO AHEAD. 
          >> THE ONE WITH THE LOG CABIN, IS IT ON HEAR? I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THAT. 
          >> IS THE LOG CABIN ON HERE? >> RUSSELL ROAD. >> RUSSELL ROAD. 
          >> I THOUGHT THAT WAS IT. >> MY TEAM IS BEHIND ME, AND THEY ARE THE BEST. 
          SO THEY KNOW ALL OF THE ANSWERS THAT I DON'T KNOW. THEY KNOW ALL OF THE ANSWERS. 
          OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? >> NO, THANK YOU. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. NEXT ONE. SO WE'RE TAKING THOSE NUMBERS FROM THE LAST SLIDE AND KIND OF BREAKING THOSE DOWN FOR YOU ON THIS SLIDE. 
          OF THE 10,013, WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 800 THAT HAVE RECEIVED THEIR CO, 197 AWAITING THEIR COS, THEY'RE IN THE BUILDING PROCESS RIGHT NOW, BETWEEN NOW AND PROBABLY LESS THAN 12 MONTHS. SO PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING IN THEM. 
          THERE'S 360 LOTS AWAITING PERMIT. SO THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO THAT IS UP TO PROBABLY 18 MONTHS AS A BUILD-OUT. 
          AND THEN THERE IS ABOUT 2600 LOTS THAT ARE IN THE PLAT PROCESS. 
          SO YOU KNOW, THAT COULD TAKE FROM ONE YEAR, MAYBE UP TO FOUR YARS IF THEY'RE NOT IN A GREAT 
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HURRY TO HAVE SOMEBODY LIVING . THAT IS WHAT THE TIME FRAMES ARE. 
          IMPACT WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, 4,000 DWELLING UNITS, 1100 RESIDENTS. 
          TO GIVE YOU BALLPARK NUMBERS. >> YOU SAID 11,000. >> I SAID 1100. 
          THAT IS NOT 1100, SIR. IT'S 11,000. THANK YOU. 
          >> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY MISINTERPRETS. >> TROY WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS MIDDLEBURG MATH THE OTHER DAY. MR. ROGERS WAS TOO. DON'T BE KNOCKING THE MIDDLE MIDDLEBURG MATH. THE NEXT ITEM IS MOBILITY FEES. OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, WE'RE LOOKING AT 26 MILLION ON THAT 4,000 HOUSES. OVER BEYOND THOSE FOUR YEARS, YOU'RE LOOKING UP TO 42 MILLION WITH THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM. 
          YOU GOT TO ALSO REMEMBER THERE IS DEVELOPER CREDIT FROM MOBILITY FEE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          SO YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE FIGURES -- THOSE DOLLARS MAY NOT ALL COME IN IF THEY'RE BUILDING ROADS, DOING THINGS WE GIVE THEM MOBILITY FEE CREDIT FOR. 
          GIVE YOU SOME MOBILITY FEE BALLPARK NUMBERS. SO THE NEXT SLIDE ESSENTIALLY SHOWS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST AREAS OF CONCENTRATION IN OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, WHICH IS RURAL COMMUNITIES. SO THAT IS ALL OF THESE AREAS IN YELLOW AND WHAT WE KIND OF TODAY IS KIND OF DID AN SWATH OF WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE IF THEY WERE TOTALLY BUILT OUT WITH POTENTIAL UNITS. SO WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CAVEATS WITH THIS ONE. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S BIG NUMBERS HERE. YOU GUYS HAVE TO REMEMBER, NONE OF THIS CAN OCCUR WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS THAT I TALKED ABOUT ON THREE SLIDES BACK. IN OTHER WORDS, ANYBODY THAT OWNS THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY, IF THEY WANT TO INCREASE THAT DENSITY FROM ANYTHING MORE THAN ONE TO ONE, THE ONE TO ONE RATIO, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS. SO IT HAS TO COME TO STAFF, IT HAS TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THIS CAN'T BE DONE ANY OTHER WAY. 
          I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR. IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS MORE ABOUT 
          THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. SO ALL OF THE AREAS -- >> YOU HAVE NUMBERS THERE, CAN 
          YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE? >> YES, SIR. 
          SO CURRENTLY THOSE AREAS ARE ONE TO ONE. THE LOWER NUMBERS, IF WE BUMP IT TO THREE TO ONE AND THE HIGHER NUMBER IS IF WE BUMP IT FIVE TO ONE. 
          MPC, WHICH IS WHERE A LOT OF OUR GROWTH IS TODAY IN LAKE ASBURY IS FIVE TO ONE IN MANY 
          LOCATIONS. >> NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM COULD OCCUR WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE 
          STAFFING PROCESS? >> EXACTLY, YES, SIR. SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS SLIDE KIND OF REHASHES A LOT OF WHAT WE JUST SAID. THE YELLOW IN THE SLIDE BEFORE IS ALL RURAL COMMUNITY. IT'S ONE TO ONE. TODAY THAT EQUALS FIVE THOUSAND HOMES. IF YOU CHANGED IT TO ANY VERSION OF MPC, IT COULD GO UP TO FIVE TO ONE, WHICH COULD GET YOU TO ALMOST 27,000 DWELLING UNITS. 
          ANOTHER BIG CAVEAT THAT YOU GUYS REALLY GOT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HERE HEARS US IS THE POLICY 1.1.5, WHICH IS ON THIS SLIDE AS WELL. THAT IS THE 2040 COMP PLAN. 
          WE ACTUALLY JUST CHANGED THIS, I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING, OR WITHIN THE LAST MONTH. 
          AND THAT WAS WITH SOME OF THE SARATOGA CHANGES. BUT THIS IS WHAT -- WELL, YOU GUYS ACTUALLY VOTE ON THIS I THINK IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY AS A FINAL. 
          BUT WHEN YOU VOTE ON THAT, ESSENTIALLY, BETWEEN NOW AND 2040, WE CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 24,490 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THIS AREA. SO EVEN THOUGH BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE US, AND THAT NUMBER ABOVE HERE, WHICH THE 26695, WE CAN'T EVEN GET THAT 
          HIGH UNLESS YOU GUYS CHANGE OUR COMP PLAN, IS WHAT THIS SAYS. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT? MY QUESTION IS, DOES THE 2490 IN THE COMP PLAN INCLUDE THE 
          10,000 ALREADY APPROVED? >> IT INCLUDES THOSE AND EVEN BETTER THAN THAT, IT INCLUDES THE NUMBERS WE HAD PRIOR, AND THE REASON WHY THIS CAME BACK TO YOU GUYS FOR AN EDIT, BECAUSE OF ALSO INCLUDES THE SARATOGA SPRINGS ABANDONMENT OF THE DRI AND COMING UP AS A PLANNED COMMUNITY WITH THOSE NEW NUMBERS IN IT. SO THAT IS WHY IT'S GOING IN 
          FOR THE CHANGE. YES, MA'AM. >> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. 
          >> THIS IS NEW, 2490, NEW, NOT MY HOME, THIS IS EVERYBODY? >> ANYBODY THAT HAS COME IN WITH A LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN, ALL THE NUMBERS WE HAVE IN TODAY, ALL THE WAY TO 2040, 
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          WE'RE KEEPING ACCOUNT OF ALL OF THOSE HOMES COMING IN. >> NEW HOMES SINCE WHEN? 
          >> 2006. >> OKAY. AND WE HAVE A TICKER ON THAT. 
          >> WHAT IS THE COUNT NOW? WHAT IS THE COUNT NOW? >> I HEARD SOMEWHERE AROUND 6,000. AND THEN NOT EVEN CLOSE. BUT WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS IN 
          OUR OFFICE. >> WE HAD THE 10,000-ISH AND WE HAVE 6,000-ISH, WE'RE AT 
          16,000-ISH OF THE 24,000. >> YES, MA'AM. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO 
          ASK AND SEE WHERE WE WERE. >> GOOD QUESTION. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT. SO YEAH, IF WE'VE GOT 6,000, WE'VE GOT 10, YOU'VE GOT ABOUT 8,000 BEFORE YOU GET TO THAT CAP. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU WILL GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE, THERESA, THERE IS NO WAY WE'LL GET TO THE POTENTIAL NUMBERS BECAUSE WE'LL HIT OUR CAP BEFORE THEN. GOOD STUFF. SO I MEAN, WE KNOW THE BOTTOM PART OF THAT. IF YOU HAVE THESE CONTINUED HOUSES TO COME IN, YOU'VE GOT EMERGENCY SERVICES, PUBLIC SAFETY, ROADS, PARKS, EVERYTHING WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY, YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP DEALING WITH THOSE ITEMS IF WE KEEP GROWING. 
          GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, MA'AM. SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF NOT COLORED OR IN WHITE, ARE AREAS THAT ARE REALLY BUILT OUT TODAY, ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING BUILT OUT CURRENTLY. SO THE AREAS OF COLOR ARE THE AREAS WHERE GROWTH CAN OCCUR STILL. BUT A LOT OF THAT WE HAVE THAT ACCOUNTED FOR. YOU KNOW, FOR THE 10,000 THAT WAS IN ONE OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDES. THAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THOSE COLORS. 
          THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A PICTORIAL TO SHOW YOU THE BUILT-OUT AREA AND ANOTHER MAP JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENT COLORS WERE AND WHAT THEY MEAN. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT ROADS. 
          GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. MOST OF YOU GUYS, NOT MOST OF YOU, BUT SOME OF YOU WERE ON HERE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THESE NUMBERS A LOT. AND WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT. SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF THROW SOME STUFF OUT THERE. 
          THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A HARD SLIDE TO FOLLOW. BUT ESSENTIALLY THESE ARE ROADS THAT ARE WITHIN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THE SECOND COLUMN IS THE ROAD CAPACITY. SO THAT IS HOW MUCH VEHICLES CAN GROW ON THAT ROAD. AND THEN AVAILABLE CAPACITY IS THE THIRD ONE. 
          BUT YOU SEE THE TWO ASTERISKS AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IT SHOWS THAT SAND RIDGE AND AT LEAST A PORTION OF RUSSELL ROAD, 209 HAVE ZERO CAPACITY. 
          BUT THAT IS ZERO CAPACITY WITH THE PROJECTED PROJECTS SLATED IN THAT NUMBER. 
          WHEN WE DID THIS STUDY, ED DID A LOT OF THIS BACK IN EARLY 2019, THE BOARD ASKED HIM TO DO A WHITE PAPER ABOUT GROWTH AND THAT KIND OF STUFF IN THAT AREA. 
          WHEN WE DID THAT, THAT IS WHEN WE REALIZED WITH SOME OF THESE NUMBERS THAT SOME OF THESE ROADS ARE ZERO CAPACITY WHEN YOU PUT THE PROJECTED GROWTH IN THERE. 
          THAT IS WHEN WE DECIDED AS A TEAM THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ROADS TODAY. SO THAT IS WHERE THE BONDED ROAD PROJECT CAME ABOUT. 
          SO FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, WHICH IS THE STATUS COLUMN, THOSE ROADS, THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT ROADS WILL BE OPEN BEFORE THAT CAPACITY, AVAILABLE CAPACITY IS OUT OF SPACE. SO SAND RIDGE ROAD BY 2024 WILL BE GOOD TO GO. 209, THE SOUTH SOUTHERN PART OF 209. 
          THE NORTHERN PART OF 209 WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT INTO THE SYSTEM AND GET IT UPGRADED. THE 315B TO 717, IT'S GOT SOME SPACE EVEN WITH THE PROJECTS IN THERE TODAY. BUT THAT IS PART OF THE BONDED ROAD PROJECT. 
          WE DID PUT HINLEY IN HERE BECAUSE THAT WAS ANOTHER EXAMPLE IN THE 2010, 2012 ERA, THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE ROADS GETTING VERY FULL WITH CAPACITY. 
          AND BACK THEN, THE BOARD DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND FOUR LANE THAT ROAD, SO IT'S GOT PLENTY OF AVAILABLE CAPACITY ODAY. YES, SIR. 
          >> YOU'VE GOT 3222. WHAT IS THAT? ANY UNITS ON THAT? 
          >> THAT IS THE CAPACITY THAT THAT ROAD CAN HANDLE. BUT WHAT THEY'VE GOT AVAILABLE 
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          -- >> 3,000 A DAY, AN HOUR, A YEAR? 
          >> AN HOUR. >> AN HOUR. >> OKAY. 
          AND THEN AVAILABILITY IS 939, THAT MEANS TODAY, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE IN ANOTHER 900 
          CARS AN HOUR. >> ON THAT ROAD. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          NOW, IN 2014, SOMETHING WAS COMPLETED? >> THAT IS WHEN THE HINLEY WAS 
          FOUR-LANED. >> IT WAS FOUR-LANED. DO WE HAVE ANY FUTURE PROJECTIONS ON WHERE THAT IS GOING TO GO WITH THESE NEW 10,000 HOUSES IN HERE? 
          >> WE DO HAVE PROJECTIONS THAT KIND OF CAME ALONG WITH THIS DOCUMENT. 
          IF YOU LET ME FINISH THIS, I'LL KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. 
          SO ESSENTIALLY, HINLEY, LOOKING GOOD AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE OF IT BEING COMPLETED TO FOUR LANE. ALSO IN THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT IS THE O YOUR QUESTION, COMMIS BOLA. 
          THOSE ROADS IN THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, SAND RIDGE AND RUSSELL ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE HEAVIEST TRAVELLED ROADS IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA. WHEN WE DO THESE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, YOU CREATE THE THREE LANE FOR THOSE TWO ROADS, THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR IS A BRAND NEW ROAD. IT IS GOING TO RELIEVE A TON OF TRAFFIC IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA. WE HAVE PLANNING STATISTICS TO SHOW THAT. 
          AND WITH THOSE OTHER TWO ROADS, SAND RIDGE AND RUSSELL BEING INCREASED, THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS IS OUR APF AND DASH LINE ROADS, THE ONES THAT WE HAVE LISTED, WE THINK FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THE ONES WE HAVE LISTED ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES. FEED MILL ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS RIGHT THERE, ESSENTIALLY IN THE CENTER OF SAND RIDGE TO 209. 
          IF WE CAN WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE TO GET THAT TO CONNECT TO THE FIRST COAST CONNECTOR, AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, THAT IS GOING TO RELIEVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF SAND RIDGE AND RUSSELL. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A SHORTER BYPASS ESSENTIALLY. 
          SO THAT IS A BIG ONE. VERBENA PARKWAY IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SAND RIDGE, GOING THROUGH VILLAGE PARK SUBDIVISION. AND IF YOU COULD SEE ON SOME OF THESE MAPS, THAT IS PART OF THOSE DASHED LINE ROADS, ESSENTIALLY YOU WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER EAST/WEST ROAD NORTH OF SAND RIDGE GOING FROM HINLEY TO 209. 
          THAT WILL ALSO REDUCE CAPACITY OF THOSE MAIN ARTERIES RIGHT NOW IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA. 
          I MEAN, THOSE DASHED LINE ROADS ARE SUPER IMPORTANT. THAT IS FROM A PLANNING AND ENGINEERING STAFF, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT WITH THOSE POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS COMING IN. IF A DASHED LINE ROAD ON OUR MAP IS GOING THROUGH THEIR 
          PROPERTY. >> HAVE YOU RUN ANY MODELS ON THIS STUFF TO FIGURE OUT WHAT 
          THE NUMBER ACTUALLY IS? THAT IS WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO. >> YES, SIR. 
          SO WE USE THEIR DATA. >> SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL ME HOW MANY CARS PER HOUR WE'RE GOING TO SEE ON EACH ONE OF THESE ROADS IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. 
          WHERE IS THAT NUMBER? >> IT'S IN THE MOBILITY PLAN. >> IN THE MOBILITY PLAN. 
          >> I MEAN, ISN'T THAT RELEVANT TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TODAY? 
          WHY ISN'T IT HERE? >> WELL, WHAT WE WERE TRYING -- GOOD QUESTION. 
          I MEAN, GOOD QUESTION. WE CAN BRING IT TO YOU. >> WE'RE GOING TO GUESS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS AT ALL. >> WE'RE USING THOSE NUMBERS. 
          >> I'M SURE YOU ARE. >> LIKE FEED MILL IS NOT GOING TO BE DONE UNTIL AFTER THE BOND PROJECT IS DONE. THERE IS NO PLAN FOR IT -- THERE IS A PLAN. 
          >> THERE IS PLANS FOR IT. >> NOBODY HAS AGREED TO DO IT. >> ALL OF THOSE DASHED LINE ROADS, ALL OF THOSE ARE ON THE BOOKS. THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA WILL DETERMINE WHEN IT GETS DONE. SO YEAH, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A 
          DATE ON THOSE YET. >> THEY'RE WAITING UNTIL THE EXPRESSWAY COMES IN. 
          FEED MILL IS REALLY NOT EVEN -- SHOULDN'T PERTAIN TO THIS, I DON'T THINK. 
          >> IT DOES PERTAIN TO IT BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL ROADWAY CAPACITY. 
          >> 425? >> IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. YEAH. 
          PARTS OF IT WILL PROBABLY BE BUILT BETWEEN NOW AND 2025. WE MAY NOT HAVE IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH AT THAT POINT IN TIME. BUT YEAH, THERE WILL BE PARTS OF IT BUILT. 
          >> OKAY. >> I THINK THE BIG THING FOR 2025 IS THE FACT THAT YOU'RE 
          GETTING SAND RIDGE AND RUSSELL AT THE THREE LANE. >> I GUESS WE'RE TRYING TO 
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FIGURE OUT, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH ROAD CAPACITY THROUGH TIME AS THESE UNITS BUILD OUT. AND IF THERE IS A NUMBER AVAILABLE TO TELL US WHERE THAT IS, BY GOD, WE NEED TO SEE THAT BEFORE WE OPEN OUR MOUTHS AND MAKE ANY PRONOUNCEMENTS HERE. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO KNOW HOW MUCH WATER IS GOING THROUGH THE PIPE BEFORE I CAN DECIDE I 
          NEED A BIGGER PIPE. >> LET ME WORK ON THAT AND I'LL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS IN A FEW 
          MINUTES. FAIR ENOUGH? >> YEAH. 
          >> NEXT SLIDE. SO YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS MAP A MILLION TIMES. 
          THIS IS OUR BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. YOU WILL SEE THAT MOST OF THEM, ACTUALLY ALL OF THEM ESSENTIALLY ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA EXCEPT FOR THE ONE OUT ON HIGHWAY 218. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ALL OF THESE MUST BE FINISHED BY THE END OF 2024. SO NOTHING EARTH SHATTERING THERE. 
          >> MARCH 2025, IS WHAT THEY SAID, CORRECT? >> MARCH 2025 IS THE ABSOLUTE 
          DEADLINE >> ED IS HERE IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR HIM. 
          NEXT IS I THINK CHIEF MACH. AND I'LL GO DO SOME HOMEWORK FOR YOU. 
          >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO DESCRIBE IT FOR THE PUBLIC. THAT SLIDE. 
          >> YES, SIR. I'LL LET ED. >> OKAY. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. APOLOGIZE FOR THE VOICE. HAY FEVER IS KILLING ME. 
          AS FAR AS THE BRIEFING ON THE BOND TRANSPORTATION ROADS, PROJECT PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT. IN FRONT OF YOU ARE THE ESSENTIALLY THE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PROJECTS, SAND RIDGE, WHICH WE EFFECTIVELY CALL PROJECT NUMBER FOUR AND THEN AS YOU TURN SOUTH ON TO RUSSELL ROAD, THAT IS PROJECT NUMBER THREE. ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, I SHOULD TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY ARE UNDER DESIGN, WELL UNDERWAY. ALL OF THEM ARE -- WE' NOT RUNNING THEM IN TANDEM, EXCUSE ME, THEY'RE ALL RUNNING CONCURRENTLY AT THE SAME TIME FOR DESIGN. 
          THE NEXT ONE, WHICH RUNS AS WELL AS COUNTY ROAD 209, FROM THE NORTH/SOUTH COMPONENT OF RUSSELL ROAD, OUT TO U.S.-17, PROJECT NUMBER TWO. WORKING WAY FROM EAST TO WEST IS PROJECT 6A FROM U.S. 17. ALL THE WAY DOWN COUNTY ROAD 315, AT MARYLAND ROAD, HEADS ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY, WHICH IS PROJECT 6B. 
          AS FAR AS ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ROADS, AGAIN, THEY'RE WELL UNDERWAY FOR DESIGN. 
          OUR INTENT IS TO BE COMPLETED BY THE FALL OF 2024. AND AS COURTNEY HAD MENTIONED, OUR DROP-DEAD DATE WITH THE BOND COVENANTS IS THE SPRING OF 2025. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETIMES WHERE YOU HEAR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO DATES. 
          ANY QUESTIONS IN GENERAL OR SPECIFIC? >> SO IN TIME, THAT IS WHAT, 2 
          AND A HALF YEARS? >> YES, SIR. AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN WELL UNDERWAY ON DESIGN THIS YEAR. VARIOUS PIECES ARE EITHER 30 TO 45 PERCENT UNDERWAY, UNDER 
          DESIGN. >> AND IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THOSE ROADS WILL BE OPEN AND 
          USABLE TO ANYBODY WHO NEEDS TO DRIVE ON THEM, RIGHT? >> THAT IS THE INTENT, YES, 
          SIR. >> OKAY. CONSTRUCTION FOR SOME OF THESE 
          WILL START IN THE SPRING, RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. 
          SOME OF THESE WILL START THIS COMING SPRING TO SUMMER. COUNTY ROAD -- 218 IS NOT ON HERE. BUT TO YOUR QUESTION, THE CONSTRUCTION, THE DESIGN WE SELECTED THE SEMORE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT RISK FOR THE MAJORITY OF THESE ROADS, WHICH ALLOWS US TO DESIGN AND HAVE THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD WORKING AT THE SAME TIME, TO WHERE WE CAN MOVE DIRECTLY FROM DESIGN TO CONSTRUCTION AT THE ACCELERATED 
          RATE, RATHER THAN THE TYPICAL WAY YOU WOULD SEE THINGS DONE. >> BUT THAT GIVES US A FIRM 
          PLANNING HORIZON OF TWO AND A HALF YEARS, PERIOD? >> YES, SIR. 
          THAT IS WHAT THE INTENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS. >> THAT IS A FACT THAT I'M TRYING TO ESTABLISH HERE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ED? 
          >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE COMMENT THAT THIS WAS A PLAN THAT IT DEVELOPED IN 2014, 2015, 2016, 
          INKED IN 2018, THAT IS WHEN THE BONDS WERE ISSUED. >> YES, SIR. 
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          >> THE LATTER PART OF 2018, THE EARLY PART OF 2019 IS ACTUALLY WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THE GO AHEAD FROM THE BOND COVENANTS. I BELIEVE IT WAS MARCH OF 2019. YES, SIR. 
          >> JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT THAT THIS GOES BACK A FEW YEARS. 
          >> CORRECT. >> THE PLANNING FOR THIS. >> THE PLANNING, YES, SIR. 
          >> MASTER PLAN. >> YES, SIR. >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR ED AT THIS 
          TIME? >> ONE OTHER ISSUE, I SAW SOMETHING LAST NIGHT WHERE THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO CUT BACK THE GAS TAX. HOW POTENTIALLY IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT OUR ABILITY TO PAY THE BONDS BACK. I KNOW THAT IS DIVERTING THIS A 
          LITTLE BIT. >> WE DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT UNLESS THEY DO SPECIFIC FUNDING FOR A PROJECT IN OUR AREA. BUT I DON'T WANT TO SECOND GUESS THE GOVERNOR, BUT I THINK HE IS SAYING HE IS GOING TO CUT THAT, WHICH IS GOING TOTALITY ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS FOR 6 MONTHS, BECAUSE HE SEES 13 BILLION COMING TO HIM. SO I THINK HE THINKS HE CAN BALANCE THE TWO AND STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO AND PLANNED. YOU MAY HAVE SLOWER ROLL-OUT ON SOME NEW PROJECT, BUT IT 
          DOESN'T AFFECT OUR COLLECTION IN TERMS OF SALES TAX. >> WHAT ARE WE USING THE GAS 
          TAX FOR NOW? >> FOR PUBLIC WORKS. >> PAVING OF ROADWAYS, FOR THAT 
          FUND. >> I GOT A FEELING THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE THE STATE IS GOING TO CUT TAXES, BUT IT'S REALLY US THEY'RE GOING TO CUT. 
          IT'S THE WAY THESE USUALLY GO DOWN. SORRY. 
          >> WHICH BRINGS INTO QUESTION, WHERE DOES THE REVENUE COME TO PAY THESE BONDS? 
          >> COMES FROM SALES TAX, AND JUST TO GIVE KIND OF JUST A BROAD BRUSH OF IT, APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 25 MILLION IS TAKEN IN FROM THOSE TAXES. AND OUR DEBT SERVICE FOR THIS PER YEAR IS $8.4 MILLION. SO THERE IS CAPACITY, SHOULD AN IMPACT TAKE EFFECT, AS COMMISSIONER BOLO POINTS OUT, WE STILL HAVE A CUSHION SO TO SPEAK THERE, IN ORDER TO PAY 
          FOR THESE BONDS. >> WHERE DOES THE MOBILITY FEE GO? 
          >> MOBILITY FEE GOES INTO A PARTICULAR FUND FOR THAT PARTICULAR DISTRICT OR AREA. 
          ONCE WE ACHIEVE AN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BUILD A PARTICULAR ROAD WITHIN THAT AREA OR ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC MOBILITY PROJECT, IT COULD BE A SIDEWALK, IT COULD BE A BUS 
          TRANSPORTATION, IT COULD BE A ROADWAY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. >> IT COULD BE TO BTB, BONDED 
          TRANSPORTATION? >> I GUESS, LEGALLY. >> ONLY IF THE SPECIFIC ROAD IS 
          INCLUDED IN THE MOBILITY FEE. SUCH AS SAND RIDGE >> THESE PROJECTS. 
          >> YES. >> YES. THEY ARE IN IT. 
          >> SO THE MOBILITY FEE IS USED TO PAY THESE. COULD BE USED. 
          COULD BE USED. >> COULD BE. >> YEAH. 
          >> CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE INTENTION OF THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION THAT WHEN THEY -- THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION, WHICH OBVIOUSLY CHAIRMAN SALA AND VICE CHAIR BOLA WERE A PART OF, BUT THE REST OF US WEREN'T, WAS THE INTENTION TO NOT USE MOBILITY FEES. 
          LSO PASSED AT THE SAME TIME TO SUPPORT OTHER ROADS IN THE 
          AREA? >> MA'AM, THE INTENTION TO HAVE THE 129 MILLION BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM IN THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SELECTED, THERE IS SEVEN OF THEM, AS ED HAS MENTIONED HERE, WAS TO INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THOSE FUNDS IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS, AGAIN, WE SWITCHED FROM IMPACT FEES TO MOBILITY FEES, INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THOSE FUNDS TO GET COLLECTED, AS THESE NEW RESIDENTS CAME IN, IT WAS TO OBTAIN BONDS TO BUILD THESE PROJECTS SOONER THAN LATER. WAS REALLY WHAT THE INTENT OF THE BOARD WAS AT THAT TIME. SO WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE ROAD CAPACITY AND GROWTH WITHIN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS. WE FOCUSED ON THE NORTH FLORIDA TPO STUDIES THERE. WE HAD OUTSIDE AGENCIES ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE SUSAN FRAZIER IS BACK THERE A BIT. SHE GAVE HER INPUT INTO IT. BUT WE CAME UP WITH THIS, BOTH THE COUNTY ENGINEER AND MYSELF AT THE TIME, TOOK A LOOK AT CRITICAL AND DEFICIENT ROADWAYS WITHIN THE COUNTY. ONCE WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT, WE DEVELOPED AN OVERARCHING IDEA TO SAY LOOK AT THE FLOW EAST TO WEST AND NORTH TO SOUTH. BASICALLY THAT EAST TO WEST 
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FLOW, AS IT ADDRESSES TRAFFIC FROM THE FIRST COAST EXPRESSWAY AND TO GET RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY QUICKLY THROUGH THE CENTRAL PART OF THE COUNTY. THAT WAS THE OVER-ARCHING KIND 
          OF FEEL AND FLAVOR AT THE TIME. >> IF I COULD JUMP IN. >> YES. 
          >> THE SALES TAX IS MUCH MORE PREDICTABLE REVENUE FLOW. TO PAY BACK THE BOND, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT FOR THE $6,000 OR WHATEVER THE IMPACT FEE WAS TO BE COLLECTED TO A POINT WHERE WE GOT 30 MILLION TO GO OUT AND BUILD A ROAD. 
          WE FIGURED WE WOULD DO IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. COURTNEY WOULD HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY. I DIDN'T THINK IMPACT FEES WERE ABLE TO BE BONDED BECAUSE OF 
          THE UNPREDICTABLE NATURE OF HOW WE WERE TAKING THAT MONEY IN. >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS YOU DON'T KNOW HOW FAST CERTAIN THINGS ARE GOING TO BE BUILT. WITH THE SALES TAX, EVERY TWO MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GET A CHECK FROM TWO MONTHS EARLIER, IN TERMS OF WHATEVER THE REVENUES WERE. DURING THE PANDEMIC, THAT MONEY CONTINUED TO BE COLLECTED. 
          AS OPPOSED TO MAYBE THE IMPACT FEES, WHICH MAY HAVE SLOWED UP AND NOW WE'VE CHANGED OVER TO MOBILITY FEES. SO THE PHILOSOPHY WAS WE NEEDED THE ROADS, WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED THE SPECIFIC ROADS AND WE WENT AND BORROWED AS MUCH MONEY AS WE COULD BECAUSE THE RATE ON THE BONDS WAS SO INEXPENSIVE AND WE COULD START THE PLANNING. 
          THAT IS WHAT WE DID. TWO YEARS AGO, ED STARTED WORKING ON THESE. 
          ONCE WE GOT THE MONIES HOW TO MOVE FORWARD TO GET THE ROADS BUILT. 
          WITH THE MOBILITY FEE, NOW WE CAN USE THOSE MONIES ONCE THEY'RE COLLECTED TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT, WE CAN GO OFF AND WHETHER IT'S A DASHED LINE ROAD HERE OR YOU KNOW, AN EXTENSION OF ANOTHER ROAD SOMEWHERE ELSE, ALL GOING TO BE USED TO INCREASE CAPACITY OF THAT SPECIFIC ROAD, TO BE ELIGIBLE. BUT WE CAN USE IT WHEREVER WE SEE FIT 
          >> BUT IT'S GOING TO BE USED IN THAT DISTRICT. >> RIGHT. 
          >> MOBILITY FEES OF THOSE DISTRICTS HAVE TO GET THE MONEY >> BORDERS OF THE LAKE ASBURY DISTRICT ABOUT THE SAME OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE OR IS IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT? BUT THE MAIN ROADS THAT WERE IN THE MOBILITY FEE PLAN ARE THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. >> THERE ARE LOTS OF ROADS. >> I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF MOBILITY FEES. A STUDY HAD TO BE TAKEN IN, A GROUP CAME IN AND ANALYZED TRIPS. SO TRIPS WOULD BE LIKE ANYONE OF US GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE, WORK, TO TAKE OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THEY GO IN, I CALL THEM THE 100-POUND HEAD PEOPLE, THEY FIGURE THESE THINGS OUT, USE THIS ALGORITHM. 
          ONCE THOSE TRIPS WERE DETERMINED FOR PARTICULAR DISTRICTS AND AREA, WHICH THERE ARE FIVE OF THEM. IF SOMEBODY CAN BRING THEM UP FOR ME. 
          WHAT WE DID WAS WE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS. THERE WERE $450 MILLION OF PROJECTS THAT WENT IN. SO YOU BASICALLY DIVIDED THOSE TRIPS AND THOSE PARTICULAR DISTRICTS WITH THE PROJECTS THERE. AND THAT DETERMINES THAT MOBILITY FEE. AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WILL COME UP, OR IT WAS UP I THINK, YEAH. 
          SHE DID MOBILITY FEES. SO THAT $6,625, UP TO A 25,000 SQUARE FOOT HOME, THAT WAS PART OF WHAT THAT HOME WOULD GENERATE IN TRIPS. WITHIN THIS AREA IS HIGHER THAN OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY, IE, AT THAT LESS TRIPS, LESS ANTICIPATED GROWTH AND TAKEN INTO MOBILITY FEE. HOPEFULLY I KIND OF QUICKLY EXPLAINED THAT SO THAT 
          EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS ABOUT THE MOBILITY FEES. >> IN THE FIVE DISTRICTS, THOSE ROAD PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED. THAT IS WHERE THE MONEY WILL END UP GOING, EVENLY DIVIDED AS TO WHAT ROADS THOSE ARE. THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED. WE SAID LOOK, IDEAL SITUATION, IF WE HAD ALL OF THE ROADS WE NEEDED TO DEAL WITH GROWTH UP TO 2040, HERE IS WHERE THEY OUGHT TO BE, HERE IS HOW MUCH WE ANTICIPATE THEY'RE GOING TO BE COSTING US, SO WE NEED TO COLLECT A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THAT. WITH THE MOBILITY FEE, THERE'S DIFFERENT NUMBERS FOR DIFFERENT AREAS. BECAUSE THERE IS A BIGGER GROWTH AREA. GOING TO NEED SERVICES MORE ROADS, SO THAT IS WHY THE RATE IS HIGHER. THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN IMPACT FEE, WHICH ONLY HAD THE TWO 
          DISTRICTS. >> RIGHT. >> CHAIRMAN TROY BROUGHT THIS 
          UP. >> I JUST WENT TO THE HOME PAGE, TYPED IN MOBILITY FEE ORDINANCE AND SCROLLED DOWN. SO TROY, WOULD YOU MIND HIGHLIGHTING THAT AREA FOR THE 
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COMMISSIONERS, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE DON'T HAVE THE OVERLAY TO 
          SHOW THE LAMP, BUT HE CAN KIND OF SHOW YOU GRAPHICALLY THERE. >> SO THE GREEN COVE SPRINGS AREA, INCLUDED IN THE MOBILITY FEE AREA. IF THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          >> SO INCLUDES GOVERNOR'S PARK? OR NO? >> THE LIGHTER BLUE AREA. 
          >> YEAH, THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. SO SOME PARTS OF THAT MOBILITY FEE FROM LAKE ASBURY WHERE ALL THESE HOMES ARE BEING BUILT WOULD GO TO PROJECTS SOUTH OF 
          THERE. >> AGAIN, YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LIST OF THE MOBILITY FEE ROADS THAT WE IDENTIFIED. SOME OF THOSE ARE BEING BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER, LIKE THE DASH LINE ROAD COMING OFF SPRING BANK, ALL THE WAY TO 17, THAT 
          IS TO BE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER. >> I THINK WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE THAT PART AS WELL. THERE WAS A SLIDE EARLIER ABOUT A $30 MILLION MOBILITY FEE THAT MAY BE PICKED UP BY THE DEVELOPER. JUST EXPLAIN HOW THAT ALL CAME 
          ABOUT AND WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS. >> YES, SIR. 
          WITHIN A PARTICULAR AREA THAT YOU WOULD NEED RIGHT-OF-WAY, STORM DRAINAGE OR A ROAD BUILT, WHEN THE DEVELOPER BUILDS THAT ROAD, OR GIVES THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT DEVELOPER RECEIVES A MOBILITY FEE CREDIT. SO THE ESTIMATE I THINK ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY $30 MILLION IN MOBILITY FEE CREDITS. SO THAT JUST MEANS THAT INSTEAD OF THE COUNTY BUILDING THE ROAD OR THE COUNTY PURCHASING THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, OR DEVELOPING THOSE DRAINAGE PONDS, DRAINAGE SYSTEM, THE DEVELOPER DOES THAT. 
          >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE, RIGHT BEFORE THE YELLOW. >> RIGHT THERE. 
          >> SO IN LIEU OF PAYING MOBILITY FEE, THE DEVELOPER COULD OFFSET THAT FEE WITH 
          PROJECTS? >> THAT'S CORRECT >> THAT SUPPORT THE DEVELOPER? 
          >> SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT, SUPPORTS CAPACITY WITHIN THE AREA, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 
          SUPPORTS DRAINAGE WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, YES, SIR. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THE BONDED ROAD PROJECT? WE'LL SEND ED BACK. THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE IN TERMS OF QUESTIONS ON ROADS RIGHT NOW? >> THANKS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I'M SPEAKING IN THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE NUMBER OF MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, CERTAINLY THE BOARD IN DISCUSSING THE MATTER AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING EXPRESSED CONCERN RELATIVE TO THE TRAVEL AND SAFETY OF THOSE ROADWAYS. 
          WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF REPORTED MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED ON THREE SPECIFIC ROADWAYS IN THE LAMP AREA. WE IDENTIFIED HINLEY, RUSSELL AND SAND RIDGE. SPECIFICALLY WE LOOKED AT THE YEARS, 2018, 2019, AND 2020. 
          AND THEN WE LOOKED AT TREND RELATIVE YEAR-TO-DATE. THIS RELATES TO ANY SINGLE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT, WHETHER IT'S A FENDER BENDER OR A SERIOUS MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT IN THOSE AREAS. TO GET MORE NUANCED ON THAT DATA, WE WENT BACK TO THE FIRE/RESCUE DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS. I HAVE REAL GOOD CONFIDENCE ON THAT. BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE HAVE A RESPONSE, WE GEOCODE THAT LOCATION SO WE KNOW THEY TOOK PLACE RELATIVE TO THESE ROADWAY SEGMENTS. 
          THE SECOND COLUMN REFLECTS THE NUMBER OF MOTOR VEHICLE RESPONSES WE HAD. 
          IT COULD HAVE BEEN A VEHICLE ACCIDENT THAT DID NOT HAVE INJURIES, WE WENT TO ENSURE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS STABILIZED, THINGS WERE TAKEN CARE OF PRIOR TO THE REMOVAL FROM THE ROADWAY. BUT MORE THAN LIKELY IT INVOLVED AN ACCIDENT WITH INJURIES. AND THE THIRD COLUMN REFLECTS THE NUMBER OF TRANSPORTS THAT 
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WE DID FROM THOSE SPECIFIC INCIDENTS IN THE COURSE OF THE RELATIVE YEARS OR YEAR-TO-DATE. 
          AND FINALLY, TO GET MORE NUANCED ON TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE ACCIDENTS, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF TRAUMA ALERTS AND/OR TRAUMA REDS, THE MOST SERIOUS TYPE OF PATIENTS THAT WE TRANSPORT. AND TOOK A LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF OCCURRENCES THAT WE HAD RELATIVE TO EACH OF THOSE YEARS AND THE ROADWAY SEGMENTS IN QUESTION. 
          SO WE THINK THAT PRESENTS A FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS THREE YEARS AND YEAR-TO-DATE, DATA RELATIVE TO THIS. I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING THING I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT, TAKE A LOOK AT TOTAL NUMBER OF REPORTED VEHICLE ACCIDENTS. 
          DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE OR DECREASE RELATIVE TO THE DATA POINTS. THEY SEEM TO BE RELATIVELY STABLE YEAR TO YEAR. 
          ONE OF THE MORE INTERESTING FACTS IS THAT WE DO HAVE MORE MOTOR VEHICLE RESPONSES IN THE LAST YEAR THAN THE PREVIOUS YEARS. OR SO IT APPEARS TO BE. 
          BUT I THINK THAT REFLECTS OR GREATER PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND MORE EFFECTIVE TRANSMISSION OF THE DATA BETWEEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ANSWERING POINT AND FIRE/RESCUE DEPARTMENT ANSWERING POINT AND GETTING RESPONSES MORE CORRECTLY TO THOSE ACCIDENTS HOPEFULLY AT A FASTER RATE THAN WE HAD BEFORE. OVERALL, I THINK THIS PRESENTS A RELATIVELY COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THE DATA FOR THOSE THREE ROAD SEGMENTS AND I'LL TAKE ANY 
          QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. >> HOW DO THESE COMPARE TO SOME OTHER PLACE IN CLAY COUNTY? 
          >> WELL, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE -- AGAIN, IT'S PROBABLY AN UNFAIR COMPARISON, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE ROAD SEGMENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WE COULD HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT 218, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER THAN OTHER AREAS. 
          SO I THINK IT'S EASIER TO TAKE A SINGLE ROADWAY SEGMENT AND THEN COMPARE IT RELATIVE TO ANOTHER ONE WITH IT. I DON'T THINK YOU SEE A LOT OF STATISTICAL DIFFERENCE WITH IT. 
          CERTAINLY YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT U.S. 17, THE WHOLE COURSE OF TRANSMITS THE COUNTY, BUT PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO IS TAKE VARIOUS SEGMENTS ON THAT. 
          I THINK THEY ALL STAND ON TO THEMSELVES, IF YOU WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE IF A SPECIFIC 
          SEGMENT AREA HAD A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE >> HOW DO I KNOW IF THIS NUMBER IS WORSE THAN THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF ALL OF THE ROADS IN CLAY 
          IN CLAY COUNTY? >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO MAKE A COMPARISON. I THINK YOU CAN LOOK AT THE TREND LINES WHICH IS WHAT WE ATTEMPTED TO DO HERE. AND THAT PROBABLY GIVES YOU THE BEST PICTURE. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT IF YOU TOOK A LOOK AT BLANDING, FROM KINGSLEY TO THE COUNTY LINE, WE KNOW HAS A VERY HIGH INCIDENTS OF TRAFFIC ACCIDENT DATA FOR THOSE PERIOD. ESPECIALLY MORE RECENTLY WITH PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS. 
          THAT WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT FLAVOR THAN LOOKING AT THIS. >> THIS WOULD BE LESS THAN THE 
          COUNTY AVERAGE? >> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT TO SAY THAT. BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE TO PINPOINT VARIOUS SEGMENTS AND 
          TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. >> PER VEHICLE MILE TRAVELLED. >> YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW. THAT WOULD BE A HARD ANALYSIS TO DO. 
          AND I THINK BASED ON WHAT I SAW THE DIFFICULTY IN LOOKING AT THE REPORTED MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT DATA, BECAUSE THAT IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT DATA POINT, VERSUS THE FIRE/RESCUE DATA POINTS, WE HAD TO COMPARE TO, IT WOULD BE A FAIRLY DIFFICULT THING TO DO. 
          I'M NOT SAYING IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. BUT IT WOULD TAKE A LOT MORE UNLESS THAN WE PERFORMED HERE 
          TO DATE. >> IF I MAY, CHAIRMAN. AND LAUREN, IF I COULD STEP IN FOR A SECOND. WE JUST LOOKED YEAR-OVER-YEAR FOR THESE THREE PARTICULAR ROAD SYSTEMS. I THINK WHAT LAUREN IS TRYING TO GET AT IS WHAT IS THE USE OF THE ROADS OR THE FREQUENCY OF TRIPS. WE KNOW THAT BLANDING, 17, ARE HIGHLY TRAVELLED ROAD SYSTEMS. SO I MEAN, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO COMPARE THESE THREE ROADWAYS, TO 17, FOR EXAMPLE, THROUGH ORANGE PARK OR BLANDING IN THE AREA OF WELLS ROAD AND THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THE OVERALL QUESTION PERHAPS CHIEF MACH COULD ANSWER WOULD BE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE RELATED TO VEHICLE ACCIDENTS COUNTY-WIDE DID YOU SEE THAT YEAR-OVER-YEAR 
          INCREASE, REMAIN THE SEAM? >> WHEN WE'VE COMPARED DATA OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IT ON THE BOARD FLOOR MULTIPLE TIMES, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS COUNTY WIDE. WHETHER THAT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO THESE SEGMENTS I THINK IS A HARDER POINT TO DEFINE AND ENSURE THAT IT WAS RIGHT. I THINK YOU REALLY GO BACK TO LOOKING AT WHAT YOU WOULD SEE 
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HERE, WHERE IF YOU SAY WHAT ARE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENTS THAT WE SAY OCCUR, HOW MANY FIRE/RESCUE RESPONSES DO WE HAVE, WHAT ARE THE NUMBER OF TRANSPORTS, HAVE THOSE PERCENTAGES CHANGED DRASTICALLY, IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA, I WOULD SAY IT HASN'T. 
          WE'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF INCREASE IN OUR RESPONSES TO IT, BUT THE TRANSPORT DATA AND SERIOUS 
          ACCIDENTS APPEARED TO HAVE REMAINED STABLE. >> IF I'VE GOT $130 MILLION TO SPEND, I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE MOST EFFECT OUT OF IT, I'M LOOKING AT THREE ROADS WITH NO COMPARISON HERE. HOW DO I KNOW THIS IS IN MORE NEED OF BEING FIXED THAN SOME OTHER PLACE IN THE COUNTY. I CAN'T TELL THAT FROM LOOKING AT THREE ISOLATED ROADS. 
          THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE I'M GOING HERE. I MEAN, HOW DO I KNOW THAT THIS IS GOOD, BAD OR ANYTHING IF WE'RE NOT COMPARING IT TO AN AVERAGE OF THE COUNTY. 
          MILES TRAVELED, THAT WAY YOU WOULD HAVE A COMMON DENOMINATOR. 
          FIVE MILES ON RUSSELL ROAD WOULD BE COMPARED TO ONE VEHICLE, COMPARED TO LIKE 17 OR SOME OTHER PLACE IN THE COUNTY. I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT THIS NUMBER MEANS. 
          IS IT BAD OR GOOD? I MEAN, IT'S JUST A NUMBER. >> WHAT THE COUNTY MANAGER AND THE CHIEF ARE SAYING ARE THE FACT THAT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THAT. 
          I DON'T THINK YOU CAN COMPARE THE ROADS ONLY IN THE SENSE OF 17 AND BLANDING, WE'VE GOT THOUSANDS PER CARS PER HOUR TRAVELLING. THE MORE INCIDENTS WILL HAPPEN, FACT OF LIFE. I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS LOOK TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT WITH THE ADDED DEVELOPMENT AND CARS ON THE ROAD IN THAT AREA HAS CAUSED INCREASE IN INCIDENTS? 
          >> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HINLEY, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY EXPANDED BY A PREVIOUS BOARD AND OPENED IN 2014, YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO SIGNIFICANT TWO-LANE ROADWAYS THAT HAVE A HIGH CAPACITY OF TRAVEL RATE ON THEM. 
          SO THE QUESTION REALLY CAME BACK TO WHAT ARE WE SEEING FROM A RESPONSE STANDPOINT AND SERIOUS INJURY STANDPOINT RELATIVE TO THOSE SPECIFIC TWO ROADWAYS AND COMPARISON TO THE FOUR-LANE ROADWAY, IN THAT SAME AREA BECAUSE YOUR FOCUS TODAY CORRECTLY IS THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN AREA FOR DETERMINATION OF WHAT ACTION YOU MAY TAKE AT THE SUBSEQUENT 
          MEETING THIS AFTERNOON. >> THE ONLY QUESTION THAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME IS THAT STATISTICALLY, MS. STEWART TALKED ABOUT MIDDLEBURG MATH, I'VE GOT KEYSTONE MATH, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. IT SEEMS STATISTICALLY LIKE WE'VE REACHED THE NUMBERS. 
          IT SEEMS IN 2021, THEY'RE TRENDING UPWARD. >> IT'S TEN MONTHS OF DATA, BECAUSE IT DOES GO TO THE END OF OCTOBER. THAT YOU DO HAVE INCREASES, WHETHER THE LAST TWO MONTHS PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO REALLY GIVE IT A BUMP, I DON'T WANT TO BE PREDICTIVE OF THAT, THE ONE THING, I POINTED IT OUT THAT YOU DO SEE IS THERE ARE MORE FIRE/RESCUE MOTOR VEHICLE RESPONSES DURING THAT PERIOD. COULD THAT RELATE TO THE TREND? POSSIBLY. BUT I DON'T WANT TO BASE THAT OFF TEN MONTHS OF DATA RELATIVE TO THREE OTHER YEARS. Ô> ALSO 2020 IS NOT A TYPICAL YEAR. 
          EVERYBODY WAS LOCKED DOWN AND NOT GOING TO THE OFFICE. >> SO THEN WE NEED TO NOTE HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR DOWN SAND RIDGE IT GOES, THAT WHOLE INTERSECTION, CROSS CREEK, HUGE DEVELOPMENT HAS NO FIRE STATION. WE NEED TO DISCUSS THAT. 
          I MEAN, SHERIFF DEPUTIES CAN'T EVEN STOP PEOPLE ON 209 BECAUSE THERE IS NO ROOM. 
          RESPONSE TIME OF GETTING TO THESE ACCIDENTS. WE DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          BUT I KNOW IT'S GOT TO BE HIGH. WE'RE GETTING FIRE TRUCKS COMING FROM WHEREVER THEY CAN IN THE COUNTY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ONE. THAT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAVELLING THESE ROADS. THAT IS NOT NOTED. 
          BUT IT'S IMPORTANT. >> I THINK WE'VE BEEN CLEAR TO THE BOARD AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT DURING THE WORKSHOPS LEADING UP TO THE BUDGET DETERMINATION, IS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO MOVE THE LAKE ASBURY FIRE STATION AWAY FROM THE LAKE AND PUT IT IN A MORE CENTRALIZED LOCATION. 
          AND HOPEFULLY A LOCATION THAT WILL PLAN FOR THE FUTURE USE OF THE ADDITIONAL ROADWAY NETWORKS THAT WE HOPE TO COME IN TO THE AREA AND DO IT IN A WAY THAT IMPROVES RESPONSE TIME. 
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WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THAT STATION TO HOUSE ADDITIONAL APPARATUS AND PEOPLE TO LEAD TO WHAT WE THINK WILL BE AN INCREASED DEMAND FOR SERVICE. 
          JUST BASED ON THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES THAT WE SAW ON THE PREVIOUS DATA COMING IN. 
          ALL OF THAT IS A GIVEN. IN YOUR CIP PLAN THAT YOU APPROVED MOVING FORWARD. 
          HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS, THAT WILL BE A FRUITION. 
          AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO MERGE THE INCREASING NUMBER OF STAFF AND APPARATUS WITH A HOUSING LOCATION THAT CAN PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE INTO THE AREA. AND ADDITIONALLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER SITES THAT ARE PERIPHERAL REALLY TO LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN, BUT WILL BE PART OF THE DELIVERY OF SERVICES, BOTH PENNY FARMS AND WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH THE DRI MODIFICATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL STATION LOCATION IN THE SARATOGA SPRINGS DEVELOPMENT, NEAR OR ADJACENT TO IT THAT WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER SERVICE POINT TO THAT. 
          SO THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT AS WE INCREASE THE DENSITY IN THIS AREA OF RESIDENCES THAT ARE JUST APPROVED TO DATE THAT YOU JUST SAW, AS WELL AS ANYTHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO IMPROVE SERVICE DELIVERY INTO THOSE AREAS. 
          YOU KNOW, IT SHOULDN'T BE LOST ON ANYBODY THAT WE PROVIDE 12 FIRE STATION SERVICES LOCATION POINTS AND ARE PARTNERS WITH ORANGE PARK TO DELIVER TO 200,000 IN 600 SQUARE MILES. 
          THAT NUMBER HAS TO INCREASE AS TIME GOES ON. ESPECIALLY AREAS LIKE LAKE 
          ASBURY WHERE DENSITY IS INCREASING. >> I WASN'T QUESTIONING THAT. 
          OF COURSE I KNOW ALL OF THAT. HOWEVER, TODAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MORATORIUM AND WE DON'T HAVE A FIRE STATION IN THAT AREA. AND RESPONSE TIMES ARE DEFINITELY HIGH IN OUR AREA. OUR DEPUTIES CAN'T PULL OVER PEOPLE. 
          >> WE AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. >> THAT IS A HUGE PART OF THE MORATORIUM AND SAFETY FOR OUR 
          CITIZENS. >> CHIEF MOATES HIGHLIGHTED IN WHAT HE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. 
          WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE ISO ROADWAY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE FIVE MILES OF DELIVERY OF SERVICES. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASON WHY FUTURE MOVES FROM THAT FIRE STATION INTO A MORE CENTRALIZED DELIVERY LOCATION CAN IMPROVE THAT AND PROVIDE INSURANCE COVERAGE TO AREAS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN TO SOMEBODY WHO COMES IN WITH A NEW RESIDENCE WHERE THEY HAVE A HYDRANT SITTING OUTSIDE THEIR HOME NOW, BUT WOULD BE OUTSIDE THAT FIVE MILES OF TRAVEL AS TO WHY THEY HAVE TO PAY INCREASED RATES FOR SERVICE BASED ON THAT. THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT I'VE SAID TO THE BOARD, I KNOW CHIEF MOATES HAS SAID TO THE BOARD FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. SOMETHING NOW WITH THE CIP THAT 
          WE'RE WORKING TO MODIFY AND CORRECT. >> ANYTHING ELSE? 
          >> I HAVE ONE COMMENT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND ONE CLARIFICATION. 
          TRAUMA ALERT, TRAUMA RED, CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT THAT IS? >> BASED ON A SET OF CRITERIA THAT PARAMEDICS UTILIZE TO DETERMINE THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE PATIENT. 
          THE EASIEST THING IS FOR THE LAYPERSON TO UNDERSTAND, IF A TRAUMA ALERT IS DECLARED, IT'S A SERIOUS INCIDENT. THE TRAUMA RED MEANS THE INDIVIDUAL IS PULSELESS. 
          SO THERE HAS TO BE RESPIRATORY, CIRCULATION EFFORTS PROVIDED TO THAT. 
          IT REALLY REFLECTS A PATIENT IN THE MOST EXTREME SITUATION. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE TRAUMA PROTOCOLS AND THE FACT THAT WE WANT TO DELIVER THAT PERSON TO THE TRAUMA CENTER INSIDE THAT GOLDEN HOUR, THAT IS THE FOCAL POINT FOR THAT AS IT MOVES FORWARD. 
          CLEARLY SOME OF THESE TRAUMA ALERTS WILL DEVELOP EITHER ON SEEN OR LATER INTO FATALITIES. 
          WE DON'T CORRELATE THAT DATA BACK. FOR US ON THE FIRE/RESCUE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, THE TRAUMA ALERTS AND REDS ARE THE BEST WAY TO CLARIFY A VERY SERIOUS PATIENT. 
          >> THE OTHER THING I'VE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT YOU KNOW, THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PLAN, THAT WAS CAPACITY DETERMINED. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SAFETY. 
          THIS SLIDE IS SAFETY ORIENTED. AND TO IDENTIFY TRENDS AND I'LL TELL YOU TO LOOK AT RUSSELL ROAD AND LOOK AT ORANGE PARK, WE HAVE 80,000 CARS GOING THROUGH ORANGE PARK EVERY SINGLE DAY. IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO COMPARE THE TWO. 
          TOTALLY TWO DIFFERENT ANIMALS. >> I'M NOT SURE I COULD CORRELATE THAT DATA. 
          >> THAT WOULD BE HARD TO DO. THIS GIVES US A TREND OF SAFETY ON THESE ROADS, AS WE PERCEIVE 
          FROM 2018 TO 2021 >> YES, SIR. THAT WAS THE INTENT. 
          >> THEY LOOK KIND OF COMPARABLE. OTHER THAN THE ANOMALY WITH COORDINATION BETWEEN FIRE/RESCUE AND CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE POSSIBLY IN 
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          2021. >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR CHIEF ON THIS? 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> I THINK MY JOB IS TO TURN IT 
          BACK OVER TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. >> OKAY. 
          I WAS -- IF SOMEBODY COULD CHECK TROY, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND TO SEE WHERE SHERIE IS. 
          >> IN THE MEANTIME, SO JUST IN REVIEW, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE HISTORY, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE PLANNED COMMUNITIES AND THE CURRENT ONES AND THE PROPOSED THROUGHOUT THE LAMP. 
          WE ADDRESSED SOME AREAS OF FUNDING THAT WOULD PAY FOR THESE ROAD SYSTEMS AND CAPACITIES. AND WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLE FUTURE GROWTH HERE AND THEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT SAFETY-WISE AND SUMMARIZED THAT. I JUST WANTED TO NOTE I WAS VERY HAPPY THAT THE STAFF WAS ABLE TO PUT THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER SO QUICKLY. 
          I FELT CONFIDENT THAT WE JUST WANTED TO BRIEF THE FACTS TO THE BOARD. 
          AND HERE IS WHERE WE STAND. AND COMMISSIONER BOLO, WE'LL GET YOU THE OTHER CAPACITY NUMBERS FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL FOUR DASHED LINE ROADS. THOSE DASHED LINE ROADS DO COME INTO PLAY WHEN IT COMES INTO POSSIBLE CONSIDERATIONS. I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THAT THERE IS ONLY THREE. BUT TALKIN WITH THE STAFF AND DEVELOPING THESE. 
          SO REALLY THE FIRST ONE HERE, JUST TO COINCIDE WITH WHY WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP AND THE PUBLIC HEARING LATER ON, WOULD BE TO IMPLEMENT A LIMITED MORATORIUM ON APPLICATIONS FOR ANY LAND USE AMENDMENTS THAT EFFECTIVELY INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES WITHIN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. TO ALLOW US TO ALLOW FOR INFRASTRUCTURE MATURITY, AND THE EVALUATION OF POSSIBLE CHANGES ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. THOSE WOULD BE IDEAS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BEFORE AND DISCUSSIONS WITH LOT SIZE, CONSERVATION PLAN AND SUCH FOR LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. 
          A SECOND POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION WOULD JUST BE TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. YOU COULD ALMOST SAY THAT REALLY THAT COOPERATION BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE GOVERNMENT HAS WORKED OUT PRETTY GOOD. 
          THEY DEVELOPED THE CHART, THE MAP, WE FOLLOWED THOSE DENSITY RESTRICTIONS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR CLASSIFICATIONS AND THE MOVE FORWARD. I THINK AS YOU LOOK AT THAT, AND THE PRESSURES INCREASE, AS YOU KNOW, DEMAND FOR HOMES, THE MOVEMENT HERE AND THAT, WE COULD STILL WITHIN THE SYSTEMS AS SHERIE BRIEFED ON THE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH. 
          THERE ARE OTHER NUANCES THAT WILL PROBABLY COME UP THROUGH THAT AND OTHER WAYS THAT WE COULD HANDLE THAT. AND BRINGING THE FINAL PRODUCT TO THE BOARD. 
          THE THIRD ONE WOULD BE TO FOCUS AND TO ATTEMPT TO INCREASE THAT CAPACITY EVEN MORE. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE TO USE ALLOWABLE MOBILITY OR IMPACT FEES ON THOSE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN ROADWAYS. THOSE FOUR AT THE END, DASHED LINE ROADS. 
          WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT, AND ED IS AVAILABLE TO SPEED UP THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU THAT ED HAS DONE YOEMAN'S WORK TO TRY TO GET THESE PROJECTS TO COME TO FRUITION SOONER. THESE PROJECTED TIMELINES TO COMPLETE BY THE END OF 2024, AT A WORST CASE SCENARIO IS THERE. IS THAT CORRECT, ED? I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DISCUSSION CAME UP. WE'RE MOVING NICELY AND WE'RE ON GLIDE SLOPE WITH THESE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS. SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET DOCUMENTS HERE TO HELP US OUT FOR THE DASHED LINE ROADS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME ON THAT 
          AND POSSIBLE CONSIDERATIONS? >> NOT JUST THIS SECOND. WE'RE WAITING ON THE HAND-OUT. 
          AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF THAT PROMPTS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS >> IT LOOKS LIKE TROY IS 
          HANDING OUT THE MOBILITY ROADS HERE. >> WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GETTING CURRENTLY, IS THE ROADWAY SYSTEMS -- LET ME TURN TO THE RIGHT PAGE. 
          THAT WERE IN OUR MOBILITY FEE STUDY. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER BOLA, THE SPECIFIC CAPACITY NUMBERS, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON GETTING FOR YOU. 
          WE CAN HAVE BEFORE THE FOUR O'CLOCK MEETING. ESSENTIALLY OR CONSULTANT DID USE THE TPO'S LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS THAT MODEL. 
          THAT CONSULTANT HAS THAT RAW DATA. SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING 
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THAT FOR YOU GUYS BEFORE THE FOUR O'CLOCK. BUT THEY TOOK THAT DATA FROM THE TPO, TO COME UP WITH THIS LIST THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE. SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THIS LIST IS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE I THINK EVERY ROAD, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I THINK EVERY ROAD THAT WE'VE GOTTEN A BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, BUT WE HAVE OUTLYING ROADS, BUT WE HAVE MANY OF THOSE DASHED LINE ROADS ARE ON THIS LIST AS WELL. 
          >> THERE IS NO CAPACITY ON THESE, RIGHT? >> NO, SIR. 
          WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT DATA. >> WE'VE ESTABLISHED THE FACT THAT THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE READY IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS WHAT IS THE CAPACITY GOING TO BE ON THE ROADWAYS? AND THAT WILL BE IN LINE WITH THE 10,000 HOUSES WHICH ARE GOING TO GENERATE SO MANY TRIPS. RIGHT? SO THEN BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH COMPARED TO THE ROADWAYS AND SEE IF WE ENOUGH CAPACITY. OR CLOSE TO IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT IS FOR ME, THAT IS KIND OF AN IMPORTANT DATA POINT. 
          >> PROJECTION OF 10,000 IS OUT FOUR YEARS, RIGHT? ISN'T THAT TRUE? 
          >> WELL, I MEAN IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS, TAKE A SNAPSHOT AND FIND OUT WHERE WE'RE AT. 
          >> AND THEN IF WE'RE AT CAPACITY IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THERE IS NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THIS, GOING OUT FURTHER THAN THAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT? >> BEFORE WE ASK THE RESIDENTS, PATIENTLY WAITING TO HAVE THEIR COMMENT HERE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO INFORMATION THAT WE 
          RECEIVED? >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. LEGALITY OF THE MORATORIUM? 
          >> SO THE TITLE THAT IS PROPOSED FOR THE MORATORIUM THAT IS PART OF THE BACK-UP, WE'VE LOOKED AT WITH PLANNING AND BECAUSE OF ITS LIMITED DURATION, VERY SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHY AND IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY VESTED RIGHTS, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S FINE. 
          >> DURATION IS THROUGH? >> SO WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE BACK-UP IS THROUGH DECEMBER OF 
          2022. >> WHERE DID THAT NUMBER COME FROM? 
          >> SO WE JUST BACKED IT UP. AND SHERIE CAN KIND OF HELP ME WITH THIS. 
          WE LOOKED AT ONE OF THOSE SLIDES WHERE YOU HAVE THE TIMING FOR WHAT IT TAKES, HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU UNTIL ACTUALLY A CO IS ISSUED. WE LOOKED AT THE TIME FRAME OF MARCH 2025, WHEN THOSE THREE ROADS WILL BE COMPLETED AND WE WORKED BACKWARDS. 
          SO THE THOUGHT WAS IF YOU CAME IN IN THAT PROCESS IN JANUARY OF 2023, THAT THE ROADS WOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE FIRST CO IS ISSUED THAT THEN PUTS A CAR ON THE ROAD. 
          >> I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THE SAFETY DATA SQUARED AWAY BY THIS AFTERNOON. 
          I WON'T ASK FOR THAT. ANYTHING ELSE? >> LET'S GET SOME FOLKS UP 
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HERE. I DO HAVE SIX CARDS IN TOTAL AT THIS POINT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. BUT WE DO ASK THAT YOU FILL OUT A CARD, BRING IT WITH YOU AND THEN HAND IT OFF TO STAFF WHEN YOU DO THAT. JOE WIGGINS. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON, JOE WIGGINS, I'VE BEEN IN CLAY COUNTY FOR 45 YEARS. 
          I'M COMING TO YOU AS A LONG-TIME RESIDENT AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF THE BUILDING INDUSTRY, WITH I WHICH IS A LEADING EMPLOYER HERE. MORATORIUM IS AN EMOTIONAL REACTION. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF APPROVED RESIDENTIAL UNITS, SO A MORATORIUM WILL NOT DECREASE THE TRAFFIC. YOU CAN'T SHUT DOWN WHAT HAS 
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BEEN APPROVED. THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS WHO WANT TO CHANGE THEIR LAND USE. WORK WITH THEM TO HELP SHAPE THE GROWTH. 
          BLANKET ORDER WOULD ONLY REMOVE PROPERTY OWNER RIGHTS. AT A TIME WHEN OUR GOVERNOR HAS WORKED HARD TO KEEP BUSINESSES OPERATING AND FLORIDA A FREE STATE, THIS IS NOT IN OUR BEST INTEREST. LET'S LOOK AT WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELLING AND WHY THEY'RE TRAVELLING THERE. SOME LANDOWNERS MAY HAVE SUGGESTIONS AND THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH COUNTY STAFF TO RELIEVE TRAFFIC ISSUES, ESPECIALLY AT TIGHT INTERSECTIONS. WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HELP SHAPE TRAFFIC PATTERNS BY IDENTIFYING NEEDING SUCH AS FUTURE EMPLOYMENT AREAS, GROCERY STORES, EVERYTHING WE NEED FOR DAILY LIFE. IN AN ATTEMPT TO PLAN FOR COMMUNITY NEEDS, THE COUNTY GIVES US BLANKET LAND USE FOR CERTAIN PARCELS. 
          HAVE WE ASKED WHAT THE OWNER WANTS TO DO WITH IT? WE SHOULD BE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE. CLAY COUNTY HAS MANY GROWING QUALITIES. 
          I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS. THE KEY TO OUR SUCCESS AS A COUNTY IS TO SHARE INFORMATION. BECAUSE OF THIS NATURAL GROWTH PATTERN, AND OUR NEW OUTER BELT WAY, CLAY COUNTY IS EXPERIENCING GROWTH RATE UNLIKE WE'VE SEEN. 
          SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO ADDRESS IT. YOU TOOK A PROACTIVE POSITION ON ROADS AND APPROVED A BOND PROGRAM TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC PATTERNS. 
          LET'S CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AND LET'S LOOK AT HOW WE SHOULD FACE OUR FUTURE GROWTH ISSUES. 
          LET'S USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER AND SHAPE IT IN SUCH A WAY TO BENEFIT ALL 
          RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. 
          MR. CLENSMAN, IF YOU WOULD. AND ON DECK, DOUG MILLER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THIS IS A MEETING THAT IS WAY LONG OVERDUE. I'M REALLY GLAD THAT AFTER MY CONSTANT CRITICISMS AND COMPLAINTS FOR THE PAST EIGHT YEARS THAT WE ARE FINALLY HAVING IT. THE BIGGEST THREAT THAT THIS COUNTY HAS IS THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUILDING ASSOCIATION. THESE PEOPLE ARE OUT FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY, THAT IS GREED. ACCORDING FROM WHAT I SEE, GREED IS THE MOST OF THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS. WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE NOW IS A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM TO TRY TO CATCH UP. I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO CATCH UP. 
          TRYING TO MOVE PEOPLE FROM POINT A TO POINT B IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE. JUST TRYING TO GET OUT OF MY DEVELOPMENT ON TO 220 OR HINLEY ROAD IS GETTING INCREASINGLY HARD TO DO. AND INCREASINGLY DANGEROUS. 
          SPEED LIMITS IN THE COUNTY APPARENTLY ARE JUST SUGGESTIONS. 
          WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS NOT ONLY A MORATORIUM ON WHAT IS GOING ON, THIS MORATORIUM IS REALLY ONLY TO CAP THE INCREASE IN ZONING CHANGES AND I DON'T THINK THAT IS A BAD THING. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY HERE THAT IS AGAINST THIS RECKLESS OUT OF CONTROL GROWTH ATTEND THE NEXT CHARTER COMMISSION MEETING. WITH THE CHARTER, WE CAN CODIFY SOME THINGS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN CLAY COUNTY. IF WE COULD CODIFY WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SALE SALARIES ARE GOING TO BE, THEN WE CAN CODIFY HAVING A ONE TO ONE RATIO IN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THIS SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP TO THE COUNTY CHARTER, WHICH THE NEXT MEETING IS DECEMBER 2ND. AT LEAST PUT THE BUG IN THEIR EAR. 
          THE LAST CHARTER COMMISSION WE HAD WAS A COMPLETE DISASTER. I'M HOPING FOR BETTER THIS TIME AROUND. ADDING TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS TO THESE ROADS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR TRAVELLING IS JUST EXACERBATING ALL OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE NOW. WE ARE NOT GOING TO IMPROVE IT WITHOUT SLOWING THIS DOWN. 
          TWO WAYS TO DO THAT IS TO EXPAND THE ROADS, BUT GIVEN PAST PERFORMANCE, AS SOON AS THOSE ROAD EXPANSIONS ARE DONE, THEY'RE OBSOLETE. ABSOLUTELY. 
          WE'RE GOING TO STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS. I WOULD HOPE THAT -- I'M SORRY. 
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I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN GET THIS UNDER CONTROL. BUT THIS TEMPORARY MORATORIUM IS NOT A BAD THING. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS LONG PAST DUE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR 
          TIME AND I REALLY APPRECIATE WE MAKING THIS AN ISSUE TODAY. >> THANK YOU. 
          MR. MILLER. AND ON DECK IS LAURA BAVLES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DOUG MILLER. 
          WITH ENGLAND THIMS AND MILLER, PLANNERS AND ENGINEERS, REPRESENT MULTIPLE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE PLANNING AREA. I'M NOT HERE REPRESENTING ANY INDIVIDUAL ONE TODAY. BUT I AM HERE AS A PLANNER. SO WE HAVE WORKED IN CLAY COUNTY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS. PROUD TO HAVE WORKED HERE FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS. 
          LAMPA, WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT WILL NOT ACHIEVE ITS FULL DENSITY. THIS FULL GROWTH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND ENTITLEMENTS. THERE ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE WETLANDS THAN IS SHOWN IN THE PLAN. THERE IS NOT ENOUGH UPLANDS TO REACH ITS FULL ENTITLED DENSITY. SO SECONDLY, LAMPA IS A 50,000 FOOT LOOK AT A PLAN, THE SECTOR PLAN AND INVARIABLY, WHEN YOU GO TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR PLAN A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IS COLORED ON THE MAP DOESN'T QUITE FIT WHAT IS COLORED ON THE LAND. A PERFECT EXAMPLE IS, IF YOU LOOK, EVERY ACTIVITY CENTER IS A CIRCLE. WELL, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 40 YEARS, WE DON'T BUILD A LOT OF ROUND PROJECTS. SO YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT. YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT AROUND. 
          THAT MEANS DENSITIES HAVE TO MOVE AROUND. THE GROSS RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN THE LAMPA PLAN I DON'T THINK WILL BE EXCEEDED. BUT IT DOES NEED THE FLEXIBILITY TO MOVE THE DENSITIES FROM PARCEL TO PARCEL AND TRADE THEM AROUND SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE AND MAKES SENSE FROM THE COUNTY, GOOD PLANNING AND IS GOOD COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WHICH I THINK IS WHAT WE ALL WANT. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO BASE ANY MORE MORATORIUM ON A PARTICULAR PARCEL DENSITY. 
          SECONDLY, I THINK YOUR STAFF IS A LITTLE OPTIMISTIC ON THE TIME IT TAKES TO GO FROM A ZONING APPLICATION FILED TO A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. WE DO THIS EVERY DAY. 
          IT TAKES ABOUT 18 MONTHS FROM THE TIME YOU FILE AN APPLICATION TO THE TIME YOU HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF YOUR ENGINEERING, ALL OF THE SITE PLANNINGS DONE. 
          RIGHT NOW THE CORPS OF ENGINEER PERMITTING FOR WETLAND IMPACTS IS 12, 18 MONTHS, SINCE IT'S BEEN -- OR LONGER. SO IT'S ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO BREAK GROUND. 
          AND THEN TYPICALLY IT'S ABOUT 12 MONTHS OF CONSTRUCTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY PRODUCT, YOU ARE THEN BUILDING MODELS AND THEN THE MODELS CREATE A SALE. AND THEN IT TAKES ABOUT ANOTHER FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS TO BUILD THE HOUSE. IT'S THREE YEARS. IT'S THREE YEARS. 
          THE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION NETWORK WILL LOOK DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT THREE YEARS FROM NOW. 
          ALONG WITH THAT, PLEASE DON'T DELAY THE PROCESS BECAUSE MANY OF THE PROCESSES INCLUDE BUILDING THESE 30 MILLION ROADS THAT BENEFIT NOT JUST SOME DEVELOPER BUILDING THAT ROAD, BUT THE COUNTY RESIDENTS AS A WHOLE WILL USE THOSE SAME ROADS. 
          SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO RETHINK THIS. I DON'T THINK IT WILL ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. I THINK IT WILL BE THE OPPOSITE. I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY MAKE CLAY COUNTY WHAT IT WAS ENVISIONED TO BE, BUT STOPPING THE PROCESS IS NOT THE WAY TO GET THERE. 
          SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. MILLER. MATT HANZNEK, YOU'RE ON DECK. 
          >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M LAURA, INTERIM PRESIDENT FOR CLAY COUNTY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. I LOVE CLAY COUNTY. THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE THAN CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA. THIS IS MY HOME. I ALSO JUST MOVED FROM ONE ACRE 
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TO SIX ACRES BECAUSE I WAS FEELING SQUOOSHED. SO I UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYONE IS FEELING FROM THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. MY CAUTION TODAY IS TO BE MINDFUL OF YOUR MESSAGING AND INTENTIONAL WITH YOUR ACTIONS IN REGARD TO THE BRANDING FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AS YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPER, MY JOB IS TO DO MARKETING AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT OF CLAY COUNTY TO RECRUIT QUALITY, HIGH WAGE, SUSTAINABLE BUSINESSES INTO OUR COMMUNIY TO OFFSET THESE RESIDENTIAL COSTS AND PROVIDE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY LOCALLY. I BELIEVE IN THE VALUE OF THIS WORK AND THE BENEFIT TO EVERYONE. I WANT TO PROTECT THIS COMMUNITY. THIS COMMUNITY IS MY PRODUCT. PRIOR TO 2017, FLORIDA AND TEXAS WERE THE HOTTEST MARKETS FOR BUSINESS RECRUITMENT. CONSTANTLY BATTLING BACK AND FORTH FOR POSITION. 2017 COMES, AND OUR LEGISLATURE SLASHED FUNDING FOR ENTERPRISE FLORIDA, OUR STATE'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION. FRAGMENT OF WHAT IT WAS AND BARELY REMAINED. 2020, THE QUALIFIED TARGET INDUSTRY WAS SLASHED. 
          EVERY INDUSTRY NEWSPAPER BLASTED FLORIDA IS CLOSED FOR BUSINESS. 
          FLORIDA WASN'T CLOSED FOR BUSINESS. FLORIDA IS STILL AN INCREDIBLE PLACE TO HAVE A BUSINESS. BUT THE MESSAGING TO INDUSTRY PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE TO MAKE RAPID EVALUATIONS WAS THAT FLORIDA IS WOBBLY. THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO GO ON. THEY STARTED SKIPPING FLORIDA. THOSE DECISIONS KILLED OUR DEAL PIPELINE. ONE IN FOUR BUSINESSES ARE CURRENTLY CONSIDERING RELOCATING THEIR OPERATIONS RIGHT NOW. IT'S A WINDOW. 
          THIS IS NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER. WE'RE ALL IN THE THICK OF IT. 
          RESOURCES ARE STRETCHED. EMOTIONS ARE HIGH. WE'RE ALL RUNNING ON SHOE STRING MARGINS, BUT YOU HAVE TO CONTROL THE MESSAGING. THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW IS TO PUT UP A BRICK WALL THAT IS GOING TO KILL OUR DEAL PIPELINE BECAUSE YOU SEND THE MESSAGE THAT CLAY COUNTY IS ANTI-GROWTH. AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, WORKFORCE AND THE HUMAN CAPITAL IS THE NUMBER ONE FACTOR FOR LOCATION DECISIONS. 
          NUMBER TWO IS BUILDING SITES. BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT WORKSHOP WE NEED TO HAVE. 
          THE RESIDENTS ARE MARKETABLE. FLORIDA IS GAINING 1,000 NEW RESIDENTS EVERY DAY. 
          THEY'RE GIVING US THE LOOK BY THE SITE SELECTORS, THOSE SITE SELECTORS ARE LIKE DEER IN THE TREELINE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT WE DO BEFORE THEY COME IN TO EXPLORE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THEY DO DATA ANALYSIS TO NARROW THEIR FUNNEL AND THEN THEY WATCH US. 
          THEY'RE WATCHING US TO SEE HOW OUR LEADERSHIP HANDLES THE PRESSURE OF THIS GROWTH. 
          THEY'RE WATCHING TO SEE HOW WE MANAGE AND RESPOND TO IT. MY CAUTION IS THAT IF YOU BLOCK GROWTH, THE BAD STRATEGIC MESSAGING WILL TAKE YEARS TO OVERCOME DUE TO MISINFORMATION AND REPRESENTATIONS REPUTATIONS. WE'RE DIGGING OUR WAY BACK OUT. 
          FLORIDA REMAINS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS COMPETITIVE FOR RECRUITMENT THAN IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. SO MY MESSAGING TODAY IS TO BE MINDFUL OF THE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE AND CONTROL THE BRANDING AND NARRATIVE FOR CLAY COUNTY. 
          CLAY COUNTY IS NOT ANTI-GROWTH. PLEASE DON'T LIMIT OR STOP ANYTHING. 
          BUT RATHER THE MESSAGING NEEDS TO BE ABOUT WORKING FOR IMPROVEMENT, LONG-TERM MANAGED AND SUSTAINABLE GROWTH SO THAT THE BUSINESSES WE RECRUIT TO OUR PRO BUSINESS COMMUNITY WILL CONTINUE TO THRIVE FOR MANY GENERATIONS. THANK YOU. 
          >> MATT. YOU DECIDED NOT TO. OKAY. 
          THERESA SANDAI. . I HOPE I PRONOUNCED THAT RIGHT. 
          AND MARK WONTAGE. THERE YOU ARE. YOU'RE ON DECK. 
          >> >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CHIEF ABOUT HIS NUMBERS. 
          DOES THAT INCLUDE THE INTERSECTION AT 220 AND HINLEY? YOU DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          I BELIEVE WE HAVE A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN IS BEING PRESENTED THERE. 
          MY NAME IS THERESA >> CALM DOWN. JUST CAN YOU PULL A MICROPHONE 
          DOWN A LITTLE BIT. THERE YOU GO. >> I HAVE A LOUD VOICE. 
          I HAVE ONE OF THOSE VOICES. IT OFFENDS SOME PEOPLE, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. 
          THAT'S WHY I LEFT MY MASK ON I'VE BEEN HERE A FEW TIMES. SOME OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH 
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ME. I NEVER MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS MYSELF ONLINE. 
          WHICH IS WHY I ASKED THIS QUESTION ABOUT THE 220 AND HINLEY. 
          FOR FIVE DAYS, AFTER NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS WITH REPRESENTATIVES AND APPEARING ON TV, THESE SAFETY ISSUES CAUSED BY RAPID GROWTH AND INCOMPETENT AUTHORITIES STILL EXIST. IF I WERE TO DESCRIBE THE SCENARIO WITH SOMEBODY WHO WAS INTERESTED IN REGULATIONS AND THEIR PURPOSE, I WOULD DESCRIBE IT THIS WAY. 
          AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT WAS MINIMAL. NO ONE WAS TRAVERSING OUR STREET THAT WASN'T MEANT TO BE THERE. IT IS ATTACHED TO A SCHOOL. 
          APPROXIMATELY TEN YEARS AFTER LIVING THERE, THE LANDING WAS BUILT WITH AN EXTENSION TO 209:I WAS209 I WAS AI WAS A SINGLE 209.I WAS A SINGL I WAS A SINGLE MOM. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING BACK MY LIFE. 
          I DON'T FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO COME BACK HERE. THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS FOR THE CHILDREN TO GET TO SCHOOL. MY GRANDSON CAME AND WENT TO SCHOOL. 
          I HAVE DOGS. THIS IS IN MY FACE NOW. SO THE NEIGHBORS ON THE TRAIL, THERE IS OTHER KIDS, THEY HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO SCHOOL TO GET TO SCHOOL. 
          IF THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC PREVENTING NEIGHBORS FROM WALKING THEIR SCHOOL CHILDREN TO SCHOOL ISN'T ENOUGH, THE PRO AVOID A TRAFFIC LIGHT TO REQUIRE FOUR CYCLES TO GET THROUGH TO THE HOMES THAT ARE PRESENTLY SITUATED. THE STANDARDS NOW ARE 20 FOOT WIDE FOR REGULAR ROADS. THE STANDARD BACK THEN WAS 24 FOOT WIDE. 
          OUR ROAD IS 22 FOOT. AT LEAST SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE DONE. 
          THE ONLY THING WE'VE GOTTEN IS A LITTLE SIGN RIGHT AT THE LITTLE WAREHOUSES THERE SAYING NO THROUGH TRAFFIC. OKAY. WHY DO WE HAVE 20 FOOT REGULATIONS. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE 200 AND SOME ODD CARS GOING THROUGH THERE? WE HAVE AN INTERSECTION FOR SOME REASON RADAR ROAD BECAME A PRIORITY INSTEAD OF THE INTERSECTION AT 220. AND THEN IT POSED EVEN MORE OF A PROBLEM. I WAS HOPEFUL. I WAS HOPEFUL BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE PLANS TO BE FIXED AND THEN IT GOT SCRUBBED. IT WASN'T A PRIORITY ANYMORE. 
          GROWTH IS A PROBLEM. THANK YOU KRISTEN. I HAVE A COUPLE OF MORE THINGS. 
          I AM HOPEFUL THE DIRECTION. KRISTEN BURKE, YOU KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY. 
          I RESPECT YOU. YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. AND KRISTEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YOU DID GET BACK TO ME. BUT I KIND OF TOOK IT OUT ON YOU. 
          I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS A LOT OF YEARS. >> THERESA. 
          >> I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF WHAT THESE CHILDREN AND THE RESIDENTS OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING THROUGH, DUE TO THE GROWTH AND NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING BUT GIVE ME A LITTLE SIGN. THINK ABOUT THE KIDS. BE PROACTIVE. 
          >> THANK YOU. MARK, IF YOU WOULD. AND CAROL, YOU'RE ON DECK. 
          >> 242 PUSH COURT, GREEN COVE SPRINGS. I BELIEVE THAT THIS MORATORIUM IS A WELL THOUGHT-OUT IDEA. FOR A LOT OF THE REASONS EXPRESSED PRO AND CON. 
          THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT DOESN'T MATCH UP WITH THE PRACTICALITY. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, THE VILLAGE CENTERS ARE NOT ACCURATELY REPRESENTED ON THE MAPS REPRESENTED. THE HINLEY ROAD, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS DESIGNATED ON THE MAP. CIRCLES ARE NOT GOOD FOR BUILDING SITES, UNLESS YOU'RE BUILDING AN EPCOT. SO THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CAUGHT UP. 
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IN TERMS OF DATA INFORMATION, AND WHAT IS A PRACTICAL APPROACH. 
          SEVERAL OF THE RECENT ZONING CHANGES, IT CONTAINED WITHIN A SPECIFIC ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. 
          THERE WERE BLANKET CHANGES. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT REQUIRES A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ANNOUNCEMENT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT. 
          BUT THESE THINGS SEEM TO BE HIDDEN AND UNDERSTANDING THE OUTCOME OF THOSE TYPE OF DECISIONS REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. SO THIS TYPE OF MORATORIUM I THINK IS RESPONSIBLE WAY TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE, YOU CANNOT MAKE A REASONABLE DATA DRIVEN DECISION ON THE SPUR OF THE MOMENT, EVEN IF YOU HAVE A MONTH TO THINK ABOUT IT. BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH INFORMATION. EVEN THE STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO PULL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER FOR YOU. ON TOP OF THAT, WITH THE GROWTH, YOU HAVE WITH ADDITIONAL GROWTH, CHANGING, ALLOWING MORE GROWTH, THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW THAT OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE. ANYBODY THAT HAS LIVED IN FLORIDA FOR THE LAST 60 YEARS UNDERSTANDS THAT FLORIDA IS GROWING, DIFFERENT RATES, AND WE ACCEPT THAT. 
          WE KNOW THAT IS PART OF LIFE. BUT IT'S UP TO YOU AND US TO BE ABLE TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS, ISE DECISIONS THAT   BENEFICIAL IN THE LONG-RUN. 
          THERE IS TOO MANY UNKNOWNS. YOU'VE EXPRESSED THAT VERY WELL. 
          IN THE PAST, I THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, COMMISSIONER CONLEY, YOU MENTIONED THE PROJECT PRIORITY LIST. WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ON FOR FIVE OR TEN YEARS AND KEEP GETTING PUSHED DOWN BECAUSE OF OTHER PRIORITIES. 
          DENSITY ISSUES. BEING ABLE TO MOVE YOUR ARMS WITHOUT WHACKING YOUR NEIGHBOR IN THE HEAD. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT. 
          STORMWATER RUNOFF. COMMISSIONER BURKE, THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE ALL BEEN TALKING THE RIGHT TALK. YOU'VE BEEN ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. AND THIS IS A STEP THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR YOU TO GET SOME PROPER ANSWERS TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS. BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. BUT IF YOU'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS WITH CONSIDERED, TAKING A CONSIDERED PROCESS, USING THE DATA AND UNDERSTANDING THE CONSEQUENCES, WE'RE GOING TO BE BETTER FOR THAT. SO I APPRECIATE YOU CONSIDERING THIS. AND I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. CAROL. 
          CAROL IS THE LAST CARD I HAVE. IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE THAT IS INTERESTED IN SPEAKING. 
          I'LL TAKE YOU IN ORDER AS WE MOVE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M CAROL, 148 WESLEY ROAD. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MEETING THAT YOU'VE HAD TODAY. 
          IT HIGHLIGHTED THINGS TO THINK ABOUT AND HOPEFULLY WORK ON AND BECOME A BETTER CLAY COUNTY. 
          OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD. I HOPE TO LIVE THE REST OF MY LIFE HERE AT THE SAME QUALITY. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH. BUT WHAT I AM OPPOSED TO, IS OVERLOOKING THE HERE AND NOW. BY THAT I MEAN TO MAKE US HAPPIER AS HUMAN BEINGS, AND KEEP OUR QUALITY OF LIFE THE SAME, WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THE THINGS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US TODAY AS WELL AS THAT WHICH IS IN THE FUTURE. I'M TALKING ABOUT ROAD CONDITIONS. NOT ASKING FOR MORE ROADS. I'M ASKING FOR THE ONES THAT WE HAVE TO BE BETTER CARED FOR. WE HAVE SO MANY TRUCKS AND SO ON GOING BACK AND FORTH, OUR ROADS ARE WEARING THIN. THE POTHOLES ARE OUTRAGEOUS. MOST OF OUR AREAS DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS, MAKING IT DANGEROUS FOR KIDS WALKING. I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HINLEY, WHICH MEANS THAT I HAVE TO FACE THE WRONG DIRECTION TRAFFIC TO GET ON THE ROAD. 
          I NEED MORE TRAFFIC SIGNALS TO ALLOW FOR BETTER FLOW OF TRAFFIC. 
          I NEED SPEED CONTROL. IT'S LIKE A RACETRACK OUT THERE. 
          AND I DO MEAN FROM MIDNIGHT TO MIDNIGHT. AS FAR AS THE COMPARISON OF THE ACCIDENTS WHICH OCCURRED ON HINLEY AND SAND RIDGE AND RUSSELL ROAD, THE ONE THING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN THERE AND WASN'T WAS WHAT HAS OCCURRED ON 209. 
          BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET REALLY FRUSTRATED WITH SAND RIDGE, YOU GO TO 209. 
          WHAT HAPPENS ON 209? HOW MANY ACCIDENTS HAVE RESULTED IN FATALITIES HAVE WE HAD IN THE LAST NINE MONTHS? THAT IS A BIG ISSUE. ANOTHER BOTTLENECK, IF YOU 
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WILL, CAUSES EVERY ONE OF US A HEADACHE, EVERY SINGLE DAY, TWICE A DAY, THAT IS FROM NIGHT BOX ROAD TO HINLEY. ANY MORNING AT SIX O'CLOCK, ANY EVENING STARTING AT FOUR O'CLOCK, YOU WILL SEE US ALL STACKED UP THERE AT $4 A GALLON, TRYING TO GET THROUGH A STOPLIGHT. WHY DID WE NOT MAKE IT AT LEAST THREE LANES THERE. 
          IF I HAVE MISSED IT, I'M SORRY. SO YES, I WANT TO SEE US CONTINUE TO GROW. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO SEE US TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE. BECAUSE IF WE LOSE FAITH IN OUR OWN SELF, THEN WE WILL NOT GROW 
          IN BUSINESS AND/OR RESIDENCE. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          SO LET'S MOVE TO FOLKS THAT HAVE CARDS THAT HAVEN'T SPOKEN YET. 
          WE'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT THERE. THEN WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ROW >> I'M ANN TURNER, I LIVE ON LAKE ASBURY DRIVE. I'VE BEEN THERE 48 YEARS. WE'VE WATCHED ALL OF THIS COME ABOUT. AND IT'S VERY SAD. AND I HOPE THAT Y'ALL WILL SEE 
          IT. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, HONEY. 
          I HOPE Y'ALL WILL SEE IT TO PROTECT US AND NOT ALLOW ANY MORE ALLOWABLE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. IT'S ENOUGH. 
          IT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH. WE ARE JUST -- AND THE TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE TO GET OUT ON -- I LIVE OFF OF LAKE ASBURY DRIVE. THERE IS NOT A LIGHT THERE. AND THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD. A NEW DEVELOPMENT. IT'S TERRIBLE TO TRY AND GET OUT THERE WITHOUT THE LIGHT. WITHOUT TAKING YOUR LIFE IN YOUR OWN HANDS. 
          THE ROADS ARE NOT CAPABLE. WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND THE TWO LOVELY PEOPLE SAID, I SUPPORT ONE MILLION PERCENT. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH. 
          TAKE CARE OF US AT LAKE ASBURY PLEASE. >> THANK YOU. 
          CAN YOU GET HER A CARD? >> I HAVE IT FILLED OUT. >> I APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> AS I WAS WATCHING THE LAST CLAY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING, IN CLOSING COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER BURKE EXPRESSED HER CONCERNS SURROUNDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS OCCURRING IN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. SHE ASKED FOR HELP FOR HER DISTRICT. THIS REQUEST IS SIMPLY A MORATORIUM TO SLOW DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN HER DISTRICT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS TAKING PLACE. 
          SHE ACTUALLY EXPRESSED CONCERNS FOR HER RESIDENTS WITHIN HER DISTRICT. 
          THIS REQUEST FROM COMMISSIONER BURKE HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CONCERN WHICH CONVERSATIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE COURSE OF THESE BOARD MEETINGS. IN JANUARY 26, 2021, WHEN THE CONSIDERATION OF THE MOBILITY 9FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT FOR BRADLEY CREEK WAS PRESENTED IN FRONT OF YOUR BOARD, COMMISSIONER BURKE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO BRING UP THE CONCERNS OF INFRASTRUCTURE, STATING THAT IT WAS HER NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT FROM HER RESIDENTS IN HER DISTRICT. COMMISSIONER BOLA, WAS THE NEXT TO FOLLOW UP. 
          WANTING TO SEE A DISCUSSION TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE TAKING A VOTE. 
          HE WANTED TO TAKE A STAND. WE HAVE PLENTY OF LAND BUT WE NOW ARE RUNNING OUT OF PLANS FOR BUILDING OUR ROADS. FOLLOWING UP WAS COMMISSIONER RINIGER SHOWED CONCERNS FOR A $9 MILLION PRICE TAG ON THE ROADS AND WANTING TO KNOW HOW THAT PRICE CAME TO ME. 
          COMMISSIONER CONDON SHOWED CONCERNS SPEAKING OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN HER DISTRICTS FOR 20 YEARS AND STILL HAVING DIRT ROADS AND POTHOLES, SHOWING CONCERNS FOR SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. REFERENCING CREDITS WITH NO EXPIRATION DATES. COMMISSIONER SOLA SAID IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE INFRASTRUCTURE WHEN IT WAS NEEDED ORIGINALLY INSTEAD OF ALWAYS CHASING IT DOWN FROM BEHIND. 
          I STAND HERE TODAY BEFORE YOU, IT HAS COME TO NO SURPRISE TO ANY OF US TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE STAND AND I DON'T THINK THAT HEARING THE DEVELOPERS, CONSULTANTS, BUILDERS ARE GOING TO BE HAPPY WITH THIS VOTE SAYING YES 
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TODAY. BUT AS A CITIZEN OF CLAY COUNTY FOR 40 YEARS, MY POINT IS I'M BRINGING THIS DATE OF JANUARY 26, 2021, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL INJURIES IN OUR DEVELOPMENT IN THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. WHICH HAS INCLUDED OUR LATEST DEATH ON OCTOBER 12, 2021, SHE WAS A 50-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO DIED AT THE CORNER OF RUSSELL ROAD AND HANDS DRIVE. OUT OF RESPECT FOR HER FAMILY, I WILL NOT MENTION HER NAME. 
          THIS MORATORIUM IS DESPERATELY NEEDED. I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY AND ASKING YOU TO PLEASE VOTE YES. 
          THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. YES, SIR. 
          I DON'T HAVE YOUR NAME. 4220 RACETRACK ROAD, ST. JOHNS FLORIDA. 
          I'M A REPRESENTATIVE FOR BOTH THE NORTHEAST FLORIDA BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS DR HORTON. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALLOW THE CONSTITUENTS, THAT BOTH LIVE AND ALSO WORK HERE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK. 
          SO I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. ONE THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT FIRST WAS PART OF MY JOB IS FINDING NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO GO AND DEVELOP AND BUILD HOUSES ON. 
          I WORK WITH YOUR STAFF EVERY DAY. THEY ARE EXTREMELY COMPETENT. 
          THEY DO A GREAT JOB HERE. I THINK THAT ALLOWING THEM TO BE THE ONES TO HELP GUIDE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU GUYS HAVE STAFF AT YOUR BACK TO HELP WITH SOME OF THESE DECISIONS RATHER THAN JUST A MANDATE FOR A MORATORIUM. WITH THAT SAID, I DO WANT TO REITERATE A POINT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER, THE COMP PLAN ALREADY HAS A CAP FOR LAKE ASBURY FOR THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS TO BE BUILT BEFORE 2040. AND WHILE I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS ENOUGH UNITS, IT IS AT LEAST A CAP CURRENTLY. WE'LL DO 2,000 PERMITS IN CLAY COUNTY ALONE. 75 PERCENT WILL BE IN LAKE ASBURY ITSELF. 
          THAT IS WHAT THE COUNTY CAN SUPPORT. THAT IS WHY PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE. MR. MILLER COMMENTED ON THE TIMELINE TO GET THE PROJECT APPROVED FROM THE INCEPTION TO THE FIRST CO, THAT TIMELINE IS 100 PERCENT ACCURATE.  IT'S TAKING ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO GET A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT APPROVED. BOTH THROUGH THE STATE AS WELL AS THROUGH THE REGULATORY PERMITTING PROCESS. AND STOPPING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AT ONE POINT IS REALLY GOING TO CREATE A BOTTLENECK FOR THE COUNTY. 
          THAT BOTTLENECK IS WHAT I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT BECAUSE IT CREATES AN AFFORDABILITY ISSUE. 
          AN AFFORDABILITY IS A VERY BIG PROBLEM IN THE COUNTY. THE MEDIAN SALES PRICE IS ABOUT $325,000, IN CLAY COUNTY. UP 30 PERCENT, YEAR-OVER-YEAR. THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN ACTUALLY LIVE AND STAY HERE IN THE COUNTY RATHER THAN COMMUTING OUT OF THE COUNTY. AFFORDABILITY ASPECT BY CREATING A BOTTLENECK IS A CHALLENGE. IF YOU ALLOW MORE UNITS TO BE PUT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, IT FIRST OFF PRESERVES THE ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE YOU'RE DEVELOPING LESS PROPERTY BUT ALSO YOU'RE ALLOWING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO BE CHEAPER BOTH FOR THE DEVELOPER AS WELL AS FOR THE COUNTY. 
          LESS ROADWAYS, LESS WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAINTAIN AS WELL. 
          >> CAN SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD CLEARLY ARTICULATE THE MORATORIUM LANGUAGE PROPOSED? I'M CONFUSED. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF I COULD GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE EXACT LANGUAGE IS PROPOSED. THANKS. 
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          >> INCREASED DENSITY. >> HAPPY TO FOLLOW A BUILDER. MICHELLE NEWELL, I'M COMING TO YOU MORE FROM A LAYMAN'S TERM. I DON'T THINK THE DEVELOPERS LOOK AT WHAT US RESIDENTS REALLY WANT. I'VE LIVED IN LAKE ASBURY FOR TEN YEARS. 
          MY HUSBAND GREW UP THERE AND WENT TO MIDDLEBURG. SO HE DOES DO MIDDLEBURG MATH. 
          I CAN TELL YOU AFTER LIVING IN LAKE ASBURY, WE GET NOTES IN OUR MAILBOXES WEEKLY. 
          THESE NOTES COME FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THEY'RE HANDWRITTEN NOTES. IN ADDITION TO LETTERS, POSTCARDS, ET CETERA THAT WE RECEIVE FROM REAL ESTATE AGENTS, WANTING TO BUY OUR HOMES. 
          EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU KIND OF GET LET ME CALL ONE OF THESE HANDWRITTEN NOTES. 
          YOU CALL THEM UP AND YOU ASK THEM, WHY ARE YOU INTERESTED IN BUYING MY HOUSE? BECAUSE WHEN WE MOVED HERE, THE ONLY THING WE COULD FIND WAS A HOUSE ON LESS THAN A THIRD OF AN ACRE. WE BOUGHT IN ONE OF THESE SMALLER NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS CARS PARKED ON THE STREET. 
          WE CAN'T HOST OUR CHILD'S FIVE-YEAR-OLD BIRTHDAY PARTY WITHOUT CARS BEING EVERYWHERE. 
          OUR KIDS CANNOT WALK SAFELY DOWN THE STREET. HOWEVER, THEY CAN'T WALK ON THE SIDEWALKS BECAUSE CARS ARE BLOCKING ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS. SO IT'S INTERESTING TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUY THESE HOUSES. THEY WANT A HOUSE ON AN ACRE LOTS. TO HEAR THE DEVELOPER SAY MORE HOUSES PER ACRE, THAT IS NOT WHAT MANY PEOPLE WANT. SO WE'VE GOT TO PLAY A LITTLE CATCH-UP. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE MONEY, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT IN AN EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE TO NOT CAUSE INJURIES. WE NEED A TEMPORARY CATCH-UP 
          TIME. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. JIMMY WEEKS. 
          THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, Y'ALL ARE DOING A GOOD JOB. 
          WELCOME ALL YOU NEW COMMISSIONERS. Y'ALL HAVE A TOUGH TASK. 
          SEVERAL OF YOU THAT WERE CANDIDATES CAME TO ME AND ASKED FOR SUPPORT AND YOU'LL REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU. BEING A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IS NOT AN EASY TASK. 
          BUT YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO DO THAT AND WE APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. I CAME TODAY TO TAKE NOTES. 
          BUT AS I'VE SAT AND LOOKED AROUND AND HEARD A LOT OF DEVELOPERS SPEAK, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE PUBLIC REALLY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW, HAVE PRIVY TO THIS TODAY OTHER THAN ON FACEBOOK, I BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONER BURKE DOES NEED SUPPORT FOR WHAT SHE IS TRYING TO DO. 
          HERE IS A SITUATION. I'VE GOT 42 YEARS OF GOVERNMENT, 18 YEARS OF THAT 
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WAS ENGINEERING AND ROADS. SO I KNOW ALL THE ROAD SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTY. 
          BECAUSE I LIVED OUT ON SAND RIDGE ON ROBBIE LEE LANE, HALFWAY UP SAND RIDGE, I WATCHED DRIVING TO WORK FOR 42 YEARS AT THE COURTHOUSE, I WATCHED THE TRAFFIC FLOWS OUT IN THAT COMMUNITY. I'VE SEEN IT ALL HAPPEN. SO I FELT REALLY BAD WHEN WE DID THE BOND ISSUE A FEW YEARS BACK. THREE OF Y'ALL HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THE CIRCUMSTANCE WAS WE TOOK $29 MILLION AND WE DIVIED IT UP ON FIVE, SIX PROJECTS AROUND THE COUNTY. I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE Y'ALL CONSIDERED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU'RE SPLITTING UP JUST TO GIVE PIECES TO 209 AND TO SAND RIDGE. SO WHAT IT DID, WHAT IT DID FOR SAND RIDGE AND 209, IT'S JUST A PATCH PROCESS. BECAUSE YOU'RE BUILDING THREE LANE ROADS. 
          I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU ENGINEER TO TALK TO ME TODAY AFTERWARDS AND EXPLAIN MY TAKE ON WHAT A THREE-LANE ROAD IS, BASICALLY A ONE LANE ROAD EACH WAY WITH A MEDIAN IN THE MIDDLE AND TURN LANES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. IT'S NOT LIKE HINLEY ROAD WHERE YOU HAVE FOUR LANES FLOWING AND YOU COULD HAVE ALL OF THIS CAPACITY. THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM IN TWO YEARS, THREE YEARS AND FIVE YEARS. YOUR STAFF HAVE GIVEN YOU A LOT OF GOOD FIGURES TODAY ON WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO BUILD THESE INTERACTING ROADS. 
          YOU KNOW, THE 1 COAST ROAD THAT IS GOING TO COME ACROSS ALL OF THE FEED MILL ROAD. 
          RIGHT ACROSS FROM MY HOME. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING IN TWO, THREE, FIVE YEARS, THE PROBLEM FOR TRAFFIC IS NOW. COMMISSIONER BURKE AND PROBABLY OTHER STAFF MEMBERS SIT LIKE I DO ON 209 ALL THE WAY BACK A MILE AND A HALF NOW TO TURN ON TO SAND RIDGE ROAD. 
          EVEN WHEN THE TRAFFIC LIGHT WAS THERE, IT WAS BACK A MILE PLUS. SOMETIMES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT. FOLKS, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS, THAT IS GOING TO GET WORSE IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF BUILDING CONTINUING THE PACE THAT IT'S AT. 
          THE BOTTLENECK THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT IS NOT THE BOTTLENECK THAT YOU'RE HAVING NOW AND GOING TO HAVE. IT'S GOING TO CREATE MORE PROBLEMS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SO I AM ASKING YOU COMMISSIONERS, TO GATHER MORE INPUT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED YOU AND DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND DO WHAT IS FAIR. 
          YOU KNOW, I WISH I COULD SAY TODAY THAT THE MORATORIUM IS THE FINAL THING, BECAUSE THERE IS SO MANY PROBABLY HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY PROJECTED AND PASSED. 
          THIS MORATORIUM IS GOING TO BE FOR DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WE NEED HELP OUT THERE. 
          I'M THE GUY HALFWAY DOWN THAT HAS BLACK COWS UP NEAR THE ROAD. 
          ALL MY COUSINS AND FRIENDS AND FAMILY, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. 
          MY FAMILY, MY CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN ARE LIVING THERE. AND WE WANT TO STAY THERE. 
          BUT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY SOON. WE WAIT NOW FOR A LONG PERIOD BEFORE WE CAN GET ON THE ROAD. 
          YOU SHOWED SOMETHING A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT WAS A POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION. 
          NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE. NUMBER TWO WAS CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN. THAT WON'T WORK. 
          NUMBER ONE IS CONSIDERATION. EVEN IF YOU USED THE MONEY FOR MOBILITY, GOOD QUESTION, TOWARD THE BOND ISSUE, Y'ALL REALLY NEED TO RE-LOOK AT SAND RIDGE AND 209 BEFORE YOU GO IN THERE AND DO SOMETHING THAT IS ONLY A BAND-AID APPROACH. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO YOU LATER ON ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU. >> AND THEN CHAD WEEKS. ANYONE ELSE WITH A CARD? 
          OKAY. >> PRETTY MUCH WHAT HE SAID IS REALLY GOOD. 
          I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO MY DAD. I'VE LIVED IN LAKE ASBURY MY WHOLE LIFE. I'VE SEEN THE TRAFFIC. I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH. 
          I'M NOT ANTI-GROWTH. EVEN THOUGH I LIVED HERE LONG-TERM. 
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I'M NOT ANTI-GROWTH. JUST ANTI-UNCONTROLLED UNMITIGATED GROWTH. 
          AND SO JUST THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT, JUST WITH 209 PUTTING UP THE RED LIGHT AND THEN TAKING IT DOWN AND JUST THE SIMPLE PROJECT OF ADDING A TURN LANE ON 209, THE SOUTH PART OF 209, YOU CAN SEE WHAT A PROBLEM EXISTS, JUST ADDING A TURN LANE, WHAT THAT CAN DO. 
          JUST IN THE LAST MONTH I'VE WENT TO PICK UP MY KIDS, IN FLEMING ISLAND AND DRIVE THEM HOME. THAT IS JUST A FEW AFTERNOONS. MY WIFE NORMALLY DOES THAT EVERY DAY. BUT SEVERAL TIMES I'M COMING HOME AROUND 3:30, AND I'M COMING OVER PETERS CREEK, A MILE AND A HALF TO GET TO SAND RIDGE, IT TAKES ME 30 MINUTES JUST TO MOVE THROUGH THAT TRAFFIC. AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO ADD A TURN LANE. NOW, FAST FORWARD TO A YEAR LATER, WHEN WE START TO ACTUALLY TRY TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE BONDED PLANS FOR ROADS WE'RE GOING TO DO CONSTRUCTION ON OR IMPROVEMENTS. YOU KNOW, THAT IS IF EVERYTHING GOES PERFECTLY, WHICH WE KNOW HOW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS GO. THEY SELDOM DO. I BUILT A HOUSE, SO I KNOW FULL WELL, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES OVERPROMISE AND UNDER-DELIVER ON THEIR TIMETABLES. 
          NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES. SO IMAGINE POPULATION CONTINUALLY RISING TO THE POINT AND THEN WE'RE NOT BUILDING A TURN LANE, WE'RE DOING CONSTRUCTION ON AN ENTIRE ROAD THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE DEPENDING ON. AND IT'S GOING TO BE INSANE. 
          GOING TO BE ROUGH. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. I SUPPORT YOU, KRISTEN, FOR YOUR MORATORIUM AND PUSHING THAT. SO I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER 
          THOSE THINGS. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? 
          YES, MA'AM. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS ASHLEY STOCKTON. FIRST, I WANTED TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK. 
          THE MORATORIUM, IS IT APPLICABLE TO THE EXISTING PLANNED COMMUNITIES THAT WERE LISTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION? IT IS NOT. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING. 
          I LIKE MANY RESIDENTS HERE, HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. I WAS RAISED ON SAND RIDGE ROAD. MY MOMMA WAS RAISED ON SAND RIDGE ROAD. 
          MY GRANDPARENTS ARE IN THEIR 90S. AND THEY LIVE THERE STILL. 
          MY DREAM WAS TO BE ABLE TO RAISE MY DAUGHTER IN A RURAL COMMUNITY AND BE RAISED THE WAY THAT I WAS. AROUND A BUNCH OF COWS, AROUND A BUNCH OF ROOM. 
          THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS NOW. THERE ARE POCKETS THAT EXIST NOW THAT I LIVE ON ONE, MY FAMILY LIVES ON ONE, THAT STILL LOOKS LIKE THAT. BUT THE REALITY IS, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO CLAY COUNTY AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING TO LIVE RIGHT THERE IN THAT CENTRAL AREA OF LAKE ASBURY. I'M A REALTOR, FULL DISCLOSURE, I DON'T MAKE A DOLLAR OFF ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION. IT DOESN'T BENEFIT ME AT ALL. 
          TO BE ABLE TO STAND HERE AND SUPPORT NEW DEVELOPMENT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT LOOKING AT THE MARKET, LAST WEEK NEW CONSTRUCTION IN CLAY COUNTY, ROSE $7 A SQUARE FOOT. 
          AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THAT IS BECAUSE THERE IS A DEMAND. 
          IF YOU START TO LIMIT THE AVAILABLE INVENTORY, YOU START TO RAISE THE DEMAND. 
          WHEN YOU START TO RAISE THE DEMAND, YOU START TO RAISE THE COST. 
          WHEN YOU START TO RAISE THE COST OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU START TO RAISE THE COST OF RESALE AND EXISTING HOMES. THAT MEANS WE'RE PRICING PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING TO THE COUNTY BUT ALSO PEOPLE LIVING IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW OUT OF BEING ABLE TO AFFORD HOMES IN THIS OUNTY. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS, IT SCARES ME. I WANT MY DAUGHTER TO GROW UP ON ACREAGE, WITH COWS. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WILL BE ABLE TO GROW UP AND AFFORD A HOME IN THIS COUNTY. SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 
          I SUPPORT DR. KRISTEN. I DO THINK SHE HAS HER CONSTITUENTS BEST INTEREST AT HEART. I WANT YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER ALL OF THE FACTORS AT PLAY, ALL OF 
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THE CONSEQUENCES WITH PASSING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE? NO.  ALL RIGHT. 
          SO LET'S BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. OBVIOUSLY, AS WE MENTIONED RIGHT AT THE TOP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE VOTING ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE HERE, WE DO HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON'S BCC MEETING. AT THAT TIME WE WILL DISCUSS IT AGAIN. AND I THINK WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME AS WELL, DON'T WE? WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME AS WELL. 
          SO YOU'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO COME BACK AND SEE OUR SMILING FACES AGAIN AND TALK TO US AGAIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE. OR JUST WATCH IT ON TV. WHATEVER THE CASE IS, YOU REGISTERED YOUR VOICE AND WE HEARD YOU. ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AT THIS TIME? COMMISSIONER, SINCE IT WAS YOUR PROPOSAL, I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THE FLOOR THERE. 
          >> OKAY. I TOO LOVE CLAY COUNTY. AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING HERE KNOW WHY I LOVE IT AND WHY ALL OF YOU HERE LOVE IT. 
          WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE HAVE UNDERGONE ANTI-GROWTH IS NOT ANYONE CAN SAY WE HAVE REPRESENTED THEN OR NOW. THIS IS THE CENTER OF OUR COUNTY. 
          LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN AREA. AND I CAN AGREE THE LAMPA HAS WORKED UNTIL NOW. 
          BECAUSE THE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ACRES THAT HAVE BEEN STRIPPED TREES IN THE PAST ONE AND A HALF YEARS, WE ARE LEFT NOW WITH ACREAGE THAT THE MAJORITY OF IT IS ONE TO ONE ACREAGE. ALL OF THE REST OF IT WILL BE DEVELOPED. 
          YES, IT WORKED BECAUSE THE ACREAGE, DENSITY THREE TO FIVE. WHAT DEVELOPER WOULDN'T LOVE THAT. ONE TO ONE IS WHAT WE HAVE LEFT. 
          I AGREE, WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS WITH OUR MESSAGING. RIGHT NOW THAT MESSAGE IS THAT WE ARE LISTENING TO OUR CITIZENS. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ELECTED TO DO. WE ARE ELECTED TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE. 
          WE ARE NOT DOING THAT. MR. MILLER, CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU LIVE? OKAY. THE OTHER GENTLEMAN LIVES IN ST. JOHNS COUNTY. 
          I MEAN, HAVE YOU EVER DRIVEN OUR ROADS? I MEAN, PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE SPEAKING OUT, THAT DON'T LIVE THERE, I'M SORRY, YOU HAVE NO CLUE. 
          WE ARE FACED WITH MAJOR DIFFICULTIES OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          JUST LIKE CHAD WEEKS JUST SAID, WE CAN'T GET HOME NOW, WITH A TURNING LANE PUT IN. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          ALL AT ONE TIME. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? I CAN GUARANTEE YOU I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE AN HOUR TO GET TO MY DAUGHTER'S SOCCER GAME, TO GET HER TO PRACTICE ON TIME. 
          I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD STOP DEVELOPMENT. IT'S NOT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. OVER 10,000 HOMES. SERIOUSLY. 
          THERE IS PLENTY OF HOMES FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO. AND BY THE WAY, THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP, THAT REPRESENTS A DEVELOPER I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THE NAME IS ANOTHER PROBLEM WE HAVE, THESE HOMES THROWN UP, I HAVE PATIENTS THAT HAVE GIVEN ME LISTS AND LISTS OF MALFUNCTIONS WITH THEIR HOMES. THEY'RE HAVING TO USE THEIR WARRANTY AND HAVEN'T EVEN LIVED IN THEIR HOME AND THE DEVELOPER WON'T CALL THEM BACK. I MEAN, THAT IS A PROBLEM TOO. 
          DO WE WANT THIS FOR OUR COUNTY? BUT YET, WE DON'T HAVE A SAY BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. COMMISSIONERS IN THE PAST. I MEAN, THEY APPROVED IT. 
          I KNOW IN MY HEART THEY COULD NEVER HAVE THOUGHT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR AREA WOULD HAVE HAPPENED ALL AT ONCE LIKE IT IS. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO STOP DEVELOPMENT. I'M ASKING TO HALT IT TEMPORARILY, IT'S A YEAR. 
          COME ON. IT'S A YEAR. SO WE CAN TAKE A BREATHER AND CATCH UP. SO THE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE CAN CATCH UP. 
          WE HAVE TO ALLOW THAT. THE MORATORIUM DOES NOT CHANGE THE LAMPA DENSITIES. 
          IT IS STICKING TO IT. EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT STICKING TO IT. 
          STICKING TO THE DENSITIES ALREADY BEEN APPROVED YEARS AGO. 
          THE MORATORIUM DOES NOT STOP GROWTH. IT KEEPS FROM INCREASING THE DENSITY AND THE NUMBERS OF HOMES GOING TO BE PROPOSED OR ASKED TO BE APPROVED OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. I'M ASKING FOR US TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. 
          LET'S ALLOW THE CITIZENS TO REALIZE THEY HAVE BEEN HEARD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE YEAR. 
          BY THE WAY, THANK GOD THE STAFF DID AGREE, FINALLY IN 2014 TO SAY THAT ROADS TO COME. 
          BECAUSE WHAT IN THE WORLD WOULD WE HAVE DONE NOW IF THAT HAD NOT HAPPENED. 
          THANK YOU, STAFF. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. 
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          ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? >> I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT EVERYBODY FOR EXPRESSING YOUR OPINIONS, AS JIMMY WEEKS CHRONICLED HERE, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. 
          I COMPLIMENT THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION BACK IN 2018, WHICH THEY DID LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE. AND THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. 
          AND YEAH, WE PUT A CIRCLE ON A MAP, YOU KNOW, BACK IN 2018 OR 2006, WHAT EXACTLY DID THAT MEAN. WELL, I THINK THE COMMISSIONERS KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. 
          IN THAT AREA CERTAIN THINGS WERE GOING TO HAPPEN. THEY COULDN'T DEFINE THAT CIRCLE WITH EXACT BOUNDARIES OF PROPERTY LINES AND ALL OF THAT STUFF. 
          ANYWAY, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT EVERYBODY FOR BRINGING YOUR OPINIONS TO OUR ATTENTION AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL SEE WHAT THE DECISION IS THIS AFTERNOON. 
          OR THIS EVENING, I GUESS. >> AGAIN, WE'LL BE TAKING THIS UP, ANOTHER DISCUSSION. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY MORE IN ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. IN SOME CASES, GETTING NEW INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO ROADS. THANKS TO COMMISSIONER BOLA'S QUESTIONS ON THAT. SEE IF THAT IMPACTS ANYBODY'S DECISIONS. 
          IT'S BEEN SAID NUMEROUS TIMES ON THAT SIDE OF THE AISLE, NUMEROUS TIMES BEHIND HERE, THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT AN EASY DECISION TO COME BY. WEIGHING ALL OF THE FACTORS AND I KNOW EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAS PUT IN TIME AND EFFORT IN LOOKING AT THIS FROM ANY NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO COME UP WITH THE DECISION THEY THINK IS BEST FOR OUR COUNTY AS A WHOLE AND EACH OF YOU AS INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS HERE. 
          SO IF THERE IS ANYBODY ELSE, THAT HASN'T SPOKEN TODAY THAT NEEDS TO, WE CAN HEAR IT AT THIS TIME. OTHERWISE, IF THERE IS NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OR INFORMATION NEEDED BY ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, WE'LL ADJOURN THIS MEETING AND GET BACK TOGETHER IN TWO HOURS AND 50 MINUTES. THIS
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