Nov 09, 2021 BCC Agenda

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GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO TODAY'S MEETING. WE WILL GET STARTED A MOMENT BUT ON BEHALF OF THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THANK YOU FOR COMING TO THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING. SOME HIGHLIGHTS OF THE POLICY WHICH IS POSTED ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD SPIRIT PLEASE SILENCE OR TURN OF YOUR CELL PHONE SPIRIT FILL OUT A CARD IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD. WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT TEXT AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF THE MEETING. WE ALSO HAVE TIME CERTAIN SAID 5:00 P.M. WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF BY NAME AND YOU CAN ALSO GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS. BEFORE SPEAKING YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. THE LIGHT WILL TURN GREEN AND THEN 15 SECONDS AND THEN READ AT THE THREE MINUTE MARK. PLEASE MAINTAIN A CIVIL TONE. WE WOULD ASK YOU NOT TO APPLAUD OR CAP CALL INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS. WE DO ASK THAT YOU REMOVE YOUR HATS IN THE BOARDROOM.

WE THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS FOR BEING HERE. IT IS A SPECIAL MEANING TODAY BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A VETERANS DAY CEREMONY HONORING OUR 30,000 VETERANS WHO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE APPRECIATE THEM AS WELL. WITH THAT LET'S GET STARTED.

THE IMPLICATION TODAY WILL BE CONDON IF YOU WILL ALL RISE. >> PRAY WITH ME IF YOU WILL.

ALMIGHTY GOD WE THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY. WE ARE THANKFUL FOR LIVING IN THE GREATEST NATION IN THE WORLD AND THE BLESSINGS YOU HAVE BESTOWED UPON US.

WE PLAY YOUR -- WE PRAY THAT YOUR BLESSING IS OVER THE WORK THAT WE DO AND IT WILL BE CIVIL, CORDIAL CIVIL, CORDIAL AND WE WILL KEEP IN MIND, THE WORDS YOU HAVE SET BEFORE US TO GUIDE OUR ACTIONS. AND I THANK YOU FOR OUR VETERANS.

THOSE WHO SERVE AND HAVE HER SERVED AND GIVEN TIME TO PROTECT THE FREEDOMS THAT WE SO GRACIOUSLY ENJOY, AND THOSE WHO GAVE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE. ASK ALL OF THESE THINGS IN YOUR

NAME, AMEN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE MARINE CORPS THEY WILL BE PRESENTING THE COLORS.

SERGEANT MICHAEL ROGERS TO THE PODIUM FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND MS. ROGERS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAND UP, AND READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU AND INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR GROUP HERE. FIRST SERGEANT ROGERS RETIRED AFTER 26 YEARS IN THE ARMY. AFTER THAT HE LED EVERYTHING AND HE WAS TRANSITION TO THE NATIONAL GUARD. HE WAS AT CAMP LANDING IS RECENT WAS TO AFGHANISTAN.

FIRST SERGEANT ROGERS WAS AWARDED 39 DECORATIONS, MEDALS AND BADGES.

ARMY ACHIEVEMENT IN ACCOMMODATION METALS. HE IS A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT WHO GRADUATED FROM MIDDLEBURG HIGH SCHOOL AND A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN CLAY COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY TO HELP US WITH THE PLEDGE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY, WE APPRECIATED. .

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SHE WILL BE SINGING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. SHE WORKS WITH THE OFFICE.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING THE TIME OFF TO COME OVER AND SING. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TOO POST THE COLORS. AT THIS TIME IF YOU ARE NOT A VETERAN PLEASE HAVE A SEAT.

I WANT THE VETERANS TO CONTINUE STANDING. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S GIVE THE VETERANS A BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE. .

CLAY COUNTY AND THIS COUNTRY THAT WE LOVE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

SERGEANT ROBERTS. >> I JUST -- I KNOW IT IS A BUSY SCHEDULE BUT I WANT TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS. I AM SORRY ABOUT MY WRITING SKILLS I DID GRADUATE FROM

MIDDLEBURG. DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST ME. >> GOOD THING THIS IS A SCHOOL

BOARD MEETING. >> THROUGH THE CHAIRMAN, BOARD AND STAFF, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LETTING US STAND IN TO LEAD THE PLEDGE. WE LIVE IN A GREAT COUNTRY, STATE AND COUNTY. WE RECOGNIZE THE VETERANS WHICH WE CONTINUE TO DO.

I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER THE SERVICE THAT MY DAD HAD.

MY WIFE'S DAD WENT TO PEARL HARBOR. I HAD A UNCLE AT 16 AND WENT TO NORMANDIE. BUT COUNTY MEANS A LOT TO THE FAMILY AND TO THE VETERANS THAT ARE HERE. NOW AS A PARENT OF AN AIRMAN, SHE IS IN GERMANY, EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS SNOWBOARDING IN AUSTRIA THIS PAST WEEKEND. GO FIGURE.

THE COUNTY AS SO MUCH TO OFFERS FAR AS MILITARY HISTORY. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DO WHAT YOU DO WHEN NAMING THE PARKS AND DIFFERENT THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THIS PAST SUMMER WAS CHALLENGING

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WHAT YOU DO. >> THANK YOU. >> WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO

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WE DO HAVE A BUSY AGENDA SO WE WILL MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND WE ASK FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

CRITIQUE LET'S GET STARTED WITH THE ROLLCALL. ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE IN

[PET ADOPTIONS]

FOR US. >> OUR FIRST DOG TODAY IS LULU A SPAYED FEMALE, EIGHT WEEKS OLD.

SHE HAS A PLAYFUL PUPPY THAT WILL NEED A LOT OF TRAINING. SHE IS A LARGE BREED SO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN CONSIDERING HER. SHE HAS HAD HER FIRST SET OF VACCINES AND SHE IS MICROCHIP. NEXT WE HAVE A SPAYED FEMALE MIXED BREED EIGHT WEEKS OLD 6 POUNDS. JUST LIKE THE DOG BEFORE HER SHE IS A PLAYFUL PUPPY.

SHE IS A LARGE BREED SO KEEP IN MIND WHEN KEEPING HER AS A FAMILY MEMBER.

SHE STILL NEED VACCINES BUT SHE IS MICROCHIP. SHE HAS ALSO HAD OUR FIRST SET.

OUR FIRST CAT IS FELIX. HE IS EIGHT WEEKS OLD. IS A VERY SWEET BOY THAT WANTS NOTHING MORE THAN LOVE AND AFFECTION. HE WOULD MAKE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO ANY FAMILY AND HE HAS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT. HE IS UP-TO-DATE UP TO DATE ON HIS VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. LASTLY WE HAVE CARLOS WHO IS TEN WEEKS OLD.

IS A SWEET KITTEN WHO LOVES BEING AROUND PEOPLE. IS LOOKING FOR A FAMILY THAT WILL TOLD ON HIM AND SPOIL HIM. HE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HIS VACCINES AND HE IS MICROCHIP.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING PLEASE E-MAIL US AT CLAY COUNTY ADOPTIONS OR YOU CAN CALL US. CLAY COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES OFFERS A CLINIC THE FIRST THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN THE KITCHEN CREW WE ALWAYS NEED FOSTER SPIRIT IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT US. THAT CONCLUDES THE ANIMAL SPIRIT

>> THANK YOU, TERESA. WE WILL HAVE JOHN STEP INTO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE ANIMALS WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF. USUALLY YOU SEE JOHN WHEN A STORM IS ABOUT TO ROLL THROUGH THE COUNTY. BUT IN THIS CASE WE HAVE YOU IN A NEW ROLE, HOW ARE WE DOING.

>> HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE THE LAST UPDATE AND THE NEXT WHEN I WILL TELL YOU 300 PLUS ANIMALS FOUND THEIR FORMER HOME. SO I AM JON WARD DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

A REALLY QUICK ONE THROUGH OF THE NUMBERS. THEN THE PLAN MOVING FORWARD FOR THE BOARD. CURRENTLY WE HAVE 270 ANIMALS THAT ARE ADOPTABLE ANIMALS FROM THE SEIZURE. WE HAVE HAD SOME BABIES BORN THAT CANNOT BE ADOPTED.

THE MOTHER'S. WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF GOATS THAT WERE BORN THE OTHER DAY THAT ADDED TO THE NUMBERS. I THINK IF YOU ADOPT THE MOM YOU HAVE TO TAKE THEM ALL.

WE DO HAVE 270 ANIMALS THAT ARE ADOPTABLE. WE ARE GOING TO BE PLANNING THE EVENT AND AS WE SPEAK EVERYONE WHO REGISTERED SHOULD BE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THEIR E-MAIL.

WE DID A REGISTRATION FROM 8:00 A.M. ON WEDNESDAY MORNING UNTIL 4:00 P.M. ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON. YOU COULD EITHER GO ONLINE TO REGISTER OR YOU COULD CALL IN.

WE HAD THREE PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN. ONE HAD AN E-MAIL THAT WASN'T CORRECT. THE QUESTIONS WERE VETTED ON MONDAY AND IT WAS THE PRIMARY QUESTION, DID YOU SUBMIT AND WIDE. THE PEOPLE WERE TURNED INTO A NUMBER AND I WANT TO THANK THE COUNTY AUDITOR, SHE TOOK THE NUMBERS WITHOUT ANY PERSONAL INFORMATION, SHE RANDOMIZED IT AND WE HAD A TOTAL OF 550 RESTAURANTS -- REGISTRANTS.

WE HAD 200 APPOINTMENTS ON SATURDAY. 120 ON SUNDAY.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE MORE APPOINTMENTS THAN ANIMALS SO HOPEFULLY SOON WE WILL SAY WE

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THAT WILL BE THIS SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. 195 UNFORTUNATELY WILL NOT.

THEY WILL GET AN E-MAIL THAT STATES THANK YOU FOR REGISTERING BUT RIGHT NOW ALL OF THE APPOINTMENTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO WATCH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES OR SHOW UP ON TUESDAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL ANIMALS THAT ARE READY TO BE ADOPTED.

THE APPOINTMENTS AS I STATED WILL BE FOR THIS SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

YOU MUST HAVE A CONFIRMATION E-MAIL OR A WIDGET ON YOUR PHONE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN.

THERE ARE NO WALK UP SPIRIT WE WERE TRYING TO DO IT AS ORGANIZED AS POSSIBLE.

NO ONE ELSE WILL BE ALLOWED TO ENTER THE EVENT THIS WEEKEND. I DO WANT TO SAY THROUGH THE MANAGER AND THE CHAIR, GENERALLY I DEAL WITH EMERGENCY RESPONSE, HURRICANES, TORNADOES, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE A 277 ANIMAL SEIZURE BUT I WILL TELL YOU, YOUR TEAM, ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL, PUBLIC WORKS, VOLUNTEERS, ALL OF THE AGENCIES INVOLVED, DID A PHENOMENAL JOB IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE.

I WILL SAY I AM GETTING CALLS FROM TH STATE AND OTHER AGENCIES BECAUSE TO THEIR RECORD, NO OTHER ANIMAL SEIZURE OF THIS MAGNITUDE HAS BEEN MANAGED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN BY OTHER AGENCIES. WE COULD NOT GO THAT ROUTE.

THEY ARE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND BEING PART OF THAT.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR JOHN AT THIS TIME?

>> GREAT JOB. GREAT JOB BY THE TEAM AS WELL. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TATTOO

THAT COLLECTS. >> NO, SIR. WE JUST TOOK A LOOK AT THE PROCESS. IT HAS BEEN GRUELING AND WITH LONG HOURS.

I WANT TO THANK THE VOLUNTEERS, WITHOUT THEM, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE.

THEY TOOK CARE OF THE ANIMALS, CLEAN CAGES, THIS WEEKEND WAS GREAT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT. >> OKAY, WE WILL MOVE AHEAD TO OUR PROCLAMATION SO IF THE BOARD

COULD JOIN ME DOWN FRONT. >> AS WE KNOW NOVEMBER 11 IS TO COMMEMORATE AND TO REMEMBER AND

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PRIOR TO THAT UNDER VARIOUS NAMES THEN IN 1954 CONGRESS PASSED A LAW AND PRESIDENT EISENHOWER SIGNED IT INTO LAW AND NOW IT IS CELEBRATED ON NOVEMBER 11.

WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE HERE AND WHAT THEY DO IN CLAY COUNTY IF WE COULD GET YOU TO

COME DOWN AND ACCEPT. >> I WOULD LIKE CHRIS AND JESSICA TO COME DOWN AS WELL.

>> LET ME DO THE HONORS AND READ THE PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS IN 1954, PRESIDENT DWIGHT D EISENHOWER CALLED ON ALL AMERICANS TO OBSERVE NOVEMBER 11 AS VETERANS DAY.

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LET US RECONS OR GRADE OURSELVES TO ENDURING PEACE SO THEIR EFFORTS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN VAIN. AS WE CAN NEVER REPAY OUR DEBT OF GRATITUDE TO THOSE OBSERVED OR WHO WERE WOUNDED OR DIED IN BATTLE AND WHEREAS ON VETERANS DAY WE ARE REMINDED OF OUR OBLIGATION TO SERVE OUR VETERANS AS THEY HAVE SERVED US AND TO COMMEMORATE THE LEGACY OF THAT THEY HAVE UPHELD. WHEREAS THE VETERANS COUNCIL OF CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA INC., THE MISSION IS TO UNIFY THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE 30,000 LOCAL VETERANS AND PROVIDE ONE VICE TO THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES THAT DETECT THE WELFARE OF VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN CLAY COUNTY. NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVE THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA, CONFIRMED BY THEIR ACTIONS TODAY THAT THE VETERANS DESERVE TO BE HONORED FOR THEIR SELFLESS ACTIONS AND SERVING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. GOD BLESS THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED AND THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED AND KEEP SAFE THOSE WHO SERVE TODAY. BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IN CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA, SUPPORTS THE INITIATIVES OF THE VETERANS COUNCIL, AND ENCOURAGES ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT THE VETERANS BY DONATING, VOLUNTEERING AND PARTICIPATING IN LOCAL VETERANS ACTIVITIES HONORING HONORING THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE SACRIFICED SO MUCH TO PROTECT OUR GREAT NATION. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS THIS NINTH DAY OF 2021. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I HAVE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THAT IS IT. WILL YOU DO THE HONORS.

>> ON THE PRESIDENT OF THE CLAY COUNTY, VETERANS ASSOCIATION. WE MEET EVERY MONTH AT THE AMERICAN LEGION. EVERY ONE THAT A VETERAN IS WELCOME TO COME.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE HIGH UP. WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS AND PUT IN THEIR INPUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THIS COUNTY. THAT IS OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE.

>> I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WE HAVE A WEBSITE. AND WE ALSO HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE , VETERANS OF CLAY COUNTY. WE DO POST STUFF ON THEIR. AND COME IN OR YOU CAN E-MAIL US AT VETERANS.COUNSEL, IT IS ON THE WEALTH -- WEBSITE. LET US KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN CARE OF SO WE CAN ADD IT TO OUR AGENDA.

THANK YOU. >> JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE VETERANS DAY IS NOVEMBER 11 EVERY DAY AT 11:00 A.M. THERE IS A COMMEMORATION CEREMONY.

HIS. YOU HAVE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY AND QUITE HONESTLY THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE HAS A PARADE THAT IS THE LARGEST IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

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>> BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT PROCLAMATION, I WANT TO BRING OUR BRAND-NEW VETERAN SERVICE

OFFICERS OF. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS.

KEITH BEGAN HIS EMPLOYMENT WITH THE BBC. HIS OFFICES ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

KEITH SERVED IN THE U.S. ARMY, AND HE HAS BEEN SERVING VETERANS FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS.

ALSO WITH THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE MILITARY DEPARTMENT.

HE DOES HAVE ESSENTIALS AND HE'S ALSO A CERTIFIED VETERAN. HE IS A LONGTIME RESIDENT, AND WE CONVINCED HIM TO COME HOME AND HELP THE VETERANS. LET'S GIVE HIM A BIG ROUND OF

APPLAUSE. >> FIRST, AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID I AM IN THE ARMY.

I DID SCORE HIGH ENOUGH TO GO ANSWER I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 23 YEARS.

I CAME TO WORK ON OCTOBER 4 THERE WAS A NEED, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> DO NOT RUN AWAY, WE HAVE TO TAKE PICTURES. >> ALL RIGHT HERE'S THE NEXT

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PROCLAMATION. >> FARM CITY WEEK. IT IS NOVEMBER 17-24, 2021.

IT IS CELEBRATED THE WEEK LEADING BEFORE THANKSGIVING TO RECOGNIZE THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN FARMERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS AND EVERYONE IN BETWEEN WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FOOD SUPPLY. ACCEPTING THIS TODAY, WE DO HAVE OVER COUNTY EXTENSION DIRECTOR.

COME ON UP.

WHEREAS FLORIDA FARMERS AND RANCHERS OUT TO FEED THE WORLD BY PRODUCING NUTRITIOUS FOODS.

TO DO THIS THEY RELY ON ESSENTIAL PARTNERSHIPS TO SUPPLY, SELL AND DELIVER FINISHED PRODUCTS TO CONSUMERS. WHEREAS RURAL AND URBAN COMMUNITIES WORKING TOGETHER HAVE BUILT THE RESOURCES SO THAT THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE STRENGTH OF OUR ECONOMY. WHEREAS DURING NATIONAL FARM CITY WEEK WE RECOGNIZE THIS NETWORK. AGRICULTURE AND RELATED ENTERPRISES EMPLOY MORE THAN 2 MILLION WORKERS INCLUDING FARMERS AND RANCHERS, SHIPPERS, PROCESSORS, RETAILERS, INSPECTORS AND OTHERS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO AN ANNUAL IMPACT OF $146 MILLION TO THE FLORIDA ECONOMY. WHEREAS, THEY PERFORM THEIR DAILY WORK, FARMERS AND RANCHERS PRESERVE AREAS, WILDLIFE HABITAT AND GREEN SPACE BAR CONSUMERS HELP FARM FAMILIES MAINTAIN THEIR SUPERIOR NATIONAL PRACTICES BY PURCHASING FLORIDA'S AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS, AND WHEREAS FARM CITY WEEK ACTIVITY CELEBRATE THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT SUPPORT THE QUALITY OF LIFE WE ALL ENJOY. THIS YEAR AS WE GATHER WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AROUND THE THANKSGIVING TABLE WE COUNT THESE RELATIONSHIPS AMONGST OUR BLESSINGS.

WHEREAS WE COMMEND THE MANY FLORIDIANS WHOSE HARD WORK PROVIDES US WITH FOOD ABUNDANCE AND REFLECT THE TRUE PERIOD OF OUR STATE AND NATION. THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THE

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ANY OPPOSED? CONGRATULATIONS. >> I WILL MAKE IT QUICK.

MANY PROFESSIONS RANK AS IMPORTANT. FIRST RESPONDERS.

MILITARY. OUR DOCTORS. OUR MINISTRY.

BUT THINK ABOUT THE FARMER, HE IS ON THE SAME SHELF. NONE OF THESE OTHER SYSTEMS WORK. LET'S GIVE THANKS TO THE FARMER. ON TOMORROW IT IS THE BIRTHDAY OF THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS. MR. CHAIRMAN YOU DID NOT MENTION THAT. BLOOD, OUR BLOOD ALONG WITH ENEMIES ACROSS THE WORLD.

THE MORE WE HAVE THE LESS WE HAVE SPILLED. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE MARINE

CORPS. >> IS THAT IT? THAT'S IT.

[College Drive Initiative - Connie Thomas]

>> I WANT TO CALL CONNIE THOMPSON. SHE HAS A PRESENTATION FOR THE

BOARD THIS AFTERNOON. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I DON'T KNOW HOW I GO ON AFTER SEEING THAT I JUST WANT TO SAY GO AIR FORCE. I WANT YOU TO TAKE A MOMENT AND ENVISION COLLEGE DRIVE. I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN AND HAVING TRANSPORTATION AND SERVICE ALONG COUNTY DRIVE TO GET PEOPLE TO APPOINTMENTS WHETHER IT IS THE VA CLINIC OR MERCY SUPPORT SERVICES OR MAYBE IT IS TO ATTEND A COLLEGE CLASS.

AND TAKING THAT SAME KIND OF VISION WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN COME DOWN TO PARK FOR AN EVENT. THEN THEY CAN TAKE A SHUTTLE OR GO TO A RESTAURANT AND MAYBE COME BACK AND MAYBE THERE ARE SOME FOOD TRUCKS THAT IS THE VISION THE COMMUNITY SEES.

I HAPPEN TO BE UP HERE BECAUSE, GREG WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US. I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE MORE ABOUT GREG BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I WANT TO MAKE NOTICE OF THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. THIS HAS BEEN A YEAR-LONG PROJECT.

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I SEE THAT SHARE. I ALSO SEE SOME DEDICATED CITIZENS THAT HAVE COME OUT.

WE HAVE HAD A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE PART OF THIS ALONG WITH THE COLLEGE.

IT HAS BEEN A GREAT EFFORT. LET ME GO TO THE NURSE SLIDE. WHERE IS IT.

IT DOESN'T LIKE ME. VARICOSE. ABOUT A YEAR AGO I WAS INTRODUCED TO REVEREND GREG KAUFMAN. HE MOVED HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK BECAUSE, HIS CHILDREN ARE TEACHERS. AND PEOPLE CAP SAYING YOU REALLY NEED TO MEET GREG. FINALLY I DID AND I FOUND OUT HE IS PART OF THE FOUNDATION AND HE DOES RESEARCH TO BRING COMMUNITIES TOGETHER AND IT HAS BEEN DONE FOR DECADES.

I HEARD ABOUT THE DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN JACKSONVILLE. IT WAS EXCITING TO HEAR ABOUT THEM. CHARLES INVENTED THE SELF-STARTER FOR AUTOMOBILES AND HE HAD 200 PATENTS FOR INVENTIONS. HE SAW THE NEED FOR A COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND HE FELT THAT IF WE WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER AND WE HAVE DIALOGUE ABOUT IMPORTANT SUBJECTS WE COULD HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE COULD COME THROUGH AGREEMENT AND MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE DIALOGUE.

GREG HAS VOLUNTEERED HIS TIME, HE HAS COME OUT AND HE HAS WALKED US THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR HIS ASSISTANCE.

WHAT'S NEAT ABOUT THE DIALOGUE AND THIS IS WHAT WE TELL PEOPLE, WE PUT THEM IN GROUPS OF EIGHT.

IT'S TWO HOURS IF NOT MORE OF TIME DISCUSSING IMPORTANT ISSUES.

WE HAVE WHAT TO EXPECT AND WHAT NOT TO EXPECT. WE WANT THEM TO BE CIVIL.

WE APPRECIATE THE NUANCES AND RESPECT FOR AREAS OF AGREEMENT AND DISAGREEMENT SPIRIT -- WE DON'T EXPECT LIVES TO BE CHANGED. WE DON'T EXPECT AN ACTION PLAN.

WE DO NOT EXPECT QUICKCHANGE OR RESOLUTION. DO NOT EXPECT THAT.

IT IS A LOAD OFF WHEN THEY COME. WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND WHAT YOU SEE FOR COLLEGE DRIVE. AS WE GO ALONG YOU WILL SEE THE ISSUE GUIDE.

IN THAT GUIDE, THERE IS EVOLVING WORK. WE CAME UP WITH THREE APPROACHES. IF YOU WOULD GO TO PAGE FOUR, YOU WILL SEE DIFFERENT FORM OUTCOMES. THOSE FOLLOW THE THREE APPROACHES.

WHEN YOU, BEN YOU SAY, IT WILL BE GREAT TO ESTABLISH A SHADOW, THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO THINK ABOUT THE DRAWBACKS, AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT WOULD REQUIRE STAFFING OR INSURANCE OR MAINTENANCE. EACH THING DISCUSSED, YOU HAD THE ROLES AND THE CONS OF EACH ONE AND I WILL ALSO SAVE MANY OF THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY REVEREND KAUFMAN AND THEY HAVE BECOME QUITE SKILLED AT DOING THESE FORMS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THEY CAN BRING A LOT TO CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE OF THAT. ON THE FIRST APPROACH IT CAME UP THE OUTCOME WAS THE DESTINATION. COLLEGE DRIVE CAN BECOME A DESTINATION FOR HIGHER EDUCATION

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THE TWO MOST FREQUENTLY MENTIONED ACTION STEPS WAS TO ATTRACT MORE RESTAURANTS AND IDENTIFY A SPACE AND SCHEDULE REGULAR FOOD TRUCK NIGHTS. SEVERAL PEOPLE SUGGESTED A COLLABORATION WITH RIVER STATE COLLEGE. OTHERS IDENTIFIED BUSINESSES NOT OPEN IN THE EVENING. PEOPLE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ENJOYING FOOD.

PEOPLE WERE ENVISIONING AN ACTIVE EVENING LIFE, AT COLLEGE DRIVE.

WHO APPROACH TO. WEIGHING THE PROS AND CONS AS THAT INVOLVED.

IT CAME DOWN TO PUBLIC EDUCATION. EDUCATING RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS ABOUT HUMAN SERVICES. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP TO ENGAGING CITIZENS AND THINKING ABOUT HOW COLLEGE DRIVE MAY BENEFIT. THERE ARE MANY DISTINCTIVE LOCATIONS WHERE ORGANIZATIONS RESPECT THAT. IN ONE AREA THERE IS A RESOURCE IDENTIFICATION. IT COULD BE A REGION OF DISTINCTION, HOW MIGHT THIS BE TAGGED. THE DELIBERATIVE FORMS SERVED AS ATTENTION TO A BIG ENGAGE GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS AND EDUCATORS AND RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN COLLEGE DRIVE.

AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, MUCH MORE EFFORT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO CONVERSELY ALLOWS A FAIR APPROACH MIGHT RESULT IN LOWER PROPERTY VALUES. NUMBER THREE, WEIGHING THE PROS AND CONS ABOUT THRIVING BUSINESSES. WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS SAFETY AND AESTHETICS. THEY BELIEVE THE ROAD REQUIRES INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, LOW MAINTENANCE AND BIKE LANES AND MANY FELT A MASTER PLAN OR DESIGN PLAN OF SOME KIND WOULD HELP WITH IMPROVEMENTS. MANY FELT THEY MAY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO OVERSEE THE DEVELOPMENT OF COLLEGE DRIVE IN CONSULTATION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS.

A PLAN WOULD ADDRESS AND IMPROVES THE ANESTHETICS AS PART OF THE PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED OUTCOMES. THAT BRINGS US TO, WHAT WAS VERY EXCITING FOR EVERYONE, TO COME TO WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR THIS EVENING, TO TALK ABOUT A REQUEST FROM THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. THESE ARE THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS AND ONCE AGAIN IT IS LISTED UNDER THE THREE TOPICS, DESTINATION REQUESTS HERE ASSIST COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVES TO DETERMINE THE BEST USE ZONING ON COLLEGE DRIVE. LOOKING TO ATTRACT RESTAURANTS, RESTAURANTS AND OTHER BUSINESSES. SUPPORT POSSIBLE TRUCKS WITH PERMITS FOR A SPECIAL EVENT SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.

AND ADVOCATING FOR EFFORTS AND DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE TO SAY, THE COLLEGE AND THRASHER HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THAT AND TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT A FUTURE THERE AND THERE EXPLORATION PAGES AND THE CITIZENS ARE EXCITED ABOUT HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THAT FROM TIME TO TIME ON COLLEGE DRUG. THE SECOND ONE IS PUBLIC EDUCATION REQUESTS.

ONE IS DIRECTING AND DEVELOPING WEBPAGES. NUMBER TWO'S REQUEST THE COUNTY ASSIST WITH PUBLICITY TO INTRODUCE CONCEPT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

YES, ONCE AGAIN I WILL GO BACK TO, I'LL DO WE WANT COLLEGE DRIVE TO BE.

WHAT DO WE WANT IT TO SAY. SAFETY AND AESTHETICS IS ON THE THIRD ONE.

DIRECT STAFF TO COORDINATE SUGGESTIONS WITH COUNTY ROAD ENGINEERS AND FINISHING THE DESIGN WORK PROJECTS THIS IS IN PROCESS OR ABOUT TO BEGIN. APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO BUILD OUT

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THEY HAVE MET WHEN ENGINEERS TO DISCUSS THIS ONCE THEY FOUND OUT ABOUT THE PROPERTY LINES.

NUMBER THREE ENHANCE THE OVERALL LOOK OF THE AREA THROUGH A GENERAL CLEANUP WHICH WILL INCLUDE FREQUENT MAINTENANCE AND PAIN ANY CONCRETE MEDIANS SWEEP UP THE SAND AND DIRT.

ENHANCE THE WALK ABILITY OF THE AREA AND COORDINATE WITH THE TEAM TO APPLY FOR THE FUNDS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE. ON A SIDE NOTE WE HAVE SO MANY WHO LIVE ON COLLEGE DRIVE HERE IN WHEELCHAIRS. PEOPLE WHO WILL BE COMING TO THE VA CLINIC IN WHEELCHAIRS.

IT WOULD BE AWESOME TO HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT DID NOT HAVE THE SENSE AND SOMETHING THAT IS MORE STREAMLINED SO THE WHEELCHAIRS CAN GET UP AND DOWN THE ROAD. THAT IS ANOTHER WAY WE COULD ENVISION HAVING A SHUTTLE SERVICE TO HELP THOSE GET AROUND COLLEGE DRIVE.

NUMBER FOUR'S DIRECT CODE ENFORCEMENT TO STEP UP ENFORCEMENT PERHAPS SUBMITTING THIS ABANDONED GAS STATION FOR STUDY AND CLEANUP. THOSE ARE OUR IMMEDIATE REQUESTS THAT WE ASK OF YOU, AND YOU CAN HELP US GET DOWN THE ROAD. WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO HOP ON ALL OF THIS PARAGRAPH TO SAY, JUST BY BEING TOGETHER OVER THESE PAST FEW MONTHS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY WERE NO LONGER GOING TO BE IN THEIR FACILITY DUE TO THE RUNNERS DOING SOMETHING DIFFERET WITH THE FACILITY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTION FOR CONNIE? I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THEM ON A

REGULAR BASIS SINCE CONNIE ASKED ME LAST DECEMBER. >> IT WAS LATE DECEMBER OR

OCTOBER. >> WHAT IS INTERESTING, I KNOW WE HAVE A GATEWAY TO CLAY INITIATIVES THAT IS MOVING FORWARD, WE DID OUR'S LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

WE DID SEQUESTER RESULTS AND POPPED OUT WHEN WE NEEDED TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE CLAY COUNTY AREA. WEATHER WAS NONPROFIT BUSINESSPEOPLE OR RESIDENTS OR STAKEHOLDERS, TO SEE WHAT MIGHT BE DONE. IT IS IMPORTANT ON THE ROADWAY.

I GOT A GREAT PROMISE AND I THINK YOU CAN SEE THE INTEREST IT HAS GENERATED.

I GAVE THE REQUEST HOWARD PREVIOUS TO THE MEETING. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING ON THEIR THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS AS FAR AS GETTING THE ROAD DONE. CAN COORDINATE WITH GENERAL COUNTY BUSINESS. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

CONNIE, THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING IN. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[00:50:01]

WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER 26BCC MEETING AND THE SPECIAL WORKSHOP FROM OCTOBER 19. CAN I HAVE A MOTION OR A TIME OR AT THE SAME TIME LEX.

>> I WILL MOVE OF THE MINUTES AND BOTH OF THEM IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER -- WILL NOW GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, I HAVE THREE

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

THE FIRST ONE IS FROM DEBORAH, COME ON UP. JAMES YOU ARE ON DECK.

>> THANK YOU MY NAME IS IT ON THE CARD AND MY ADDRESS. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE MAMMOTH ANIMAL LEISURE THEY GATEWAY. ONE WAS TERRIFIC AND ONE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE WONDERFUL. BOTH HAVE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE FUTURES TIED TOGETHER BY CODE ENFORCEMENT. IT IS FUNNY THAT MS. THOMAS MENTION CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. I DO HOWEVER HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THE FUNDING WE LEFT THE COUNTY IN 2010 FOR A JOB OPPORTUNITY AND CAME BACK IN 2015. THE GUTTING OF CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS EVIDENT.

I LOOK AT VACANT BUILDINGS OVERGROWN LANDSCAPE. IF YOU WENT OUT TO STONE HEIGHTS , THOSE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE THE SAME COMPLAINTS. IT DOES NOT TAKE MUCH TO DO WITH CONSISTENCY. YOU JUST NEED THE MONEY AND EVERYONE NEEDS THE MONEY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MONEY SPENT ON THAT SEIZURE, THAT HAD TO HAVE BEEN MAMMOTH.

THE TIME, THE TALENT THE TREASURE, THE GENEROSITY OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF YOU HARNESS THAT WITH THE WELLS WORLD INITIATIVE BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS TO STEP UP AND I SUGGEST ONE THING YOU LOOK AT IS ANONYMITY. IM NOT AFRAID TO MAKE A COMPLAINT BUT I MET -- BUT I LIVED WITH A MAN WHO IS 6'7". AN ELDERLY LADY DOWN THE ROAD WHO HAS SIX CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY SHE WILL NOT MAKE THE COMPLAINT. I AM NOT SAYING COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS, THAT WOULD BE A FIELD DAY BUT WHEN I SUBMIT MY NAME TO YOU FOR THE BOARD IT STAYS WITHIN CODE ENFORCEMENT. YOU HAVE A MESS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, I AM WILLING TO HELP BUT I LOOK AT IT EVERY DAY. YOU CANNOT LEAN ON LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOU CAN COLLABORATIVELY MAKE DECISIONS AND CHANGES TO THE BUDGET THAT WILL HOPEFULLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I THINK I AM OUT OF TIME SO I THANK YOU. I KNOW IT IS A BIG PROBLEM AND HOPEFULLY YOU WILL CONSIDER IT.

>> THANK YOU. VIVIAN AND BILL YOU ARE ON DECK. >> VIVIAN JAMES WOULD SAVE OUR LAKES ORGANIZATION. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS ONE IS BLACK CREEK.

I WAS AT A DISTRICT MEETING AND ARCHIVE AN UPDATE ON BLACK CREEK.

THEY ARE EXPECTING THE PERMIT TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THAT YEAR.

THEY ARE EXPECTING CONTRACTS TO BE DONE IN THE SPRING AND SHOVELS HITTING THE GROUND THIS

[00:55:04]

THE WATER WILL START FLOWING, BROOKLYN WILL START REACTING. I WANT TO SAY, I WILL BE TALKING TO YOU ABOUT WHAT IS NEXT. WHAT IS NEXT IS MAKING SURE ALLIGATOR CREEK IS CLEANED OUT.

THAT IS FROM CAMP LANDING INTO GENEVA SO THE TRAIN WILL BE CLEANED UP AND WITH THAT DONE BUFFALO WILL GO BACK TO ITS NATURAL CONDITION THAT HAS BEEN IMPACTED FOR 40 YEARS.

WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER FOR COMING TO BAT FOR US WITH GETTING FUNDS SET ASIDE FOR THE PROJECTS. WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU FOR COST SHARE. AS A MATTER OF FACT I HAVE A MEETING AND BETSY WILL BE THERE ON THE 15TH TO TALK ABOUT ALLIGATOR CREEK. IT HAS TO HAPPEN NOW BEFORE THE WATER STARTS FLOWING. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET.

IT WAS ACTUALLY WHEN COMMISSIONER STEWART WAS THERE. I ASKED YOU ALL TO SET ASIDE $40,000 PER YEAR AND TO HOLD IT AN SAID AT 200,000. WE NEED THIS MONEY TO GET THE DISTRICT MOVING. THAT HAS BEEN DONE THE CITY SETS ASIDE $10,000 PER YEAR.

WE NOW HAVE A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET BUT WHAT IT SAYS,

YOU HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME. >> COME TO THE PODIUM AND FILL OUT YOUR CARD.

>> I APOLOGIZE. THERE ARE TWO THINGS. I WANT TO SHOUT OUT TO THE VETERANS AND MY FAMILY. EARLIER THIS YEAR I LOST MY FATHER WE DID NOT HAVE THE PROPER FUNERAL HE SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MY GRANDFATHER BURIED AT ARLINGTON. HE SERVED IN THE AIR FORCE AND THEN RETIRED. MY FATHER, HE PASSED AWAY EARLIER THIS YEAR.

HE RETIRED FROM THE NAVY. IT WAS ALSO A COLONEL IN MISSISSIPPI AND EVENTUALLY A CHAPLAIN. MY STEPDAD WHICH I CALL MY DAD, HE SERVED IN THE NAVY.

MY BROTHER. HE SERVED TEN YEARS IN THE MARINES.

TO AFGHANISTAN AND ONE IN IRAQ. LUCKILY HE WAS NOT INJURED. THIS LEADS ME TOO MY NEXT THING.

IN MY FAMILY, THE VETERANS HAVE SERVED THIS COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE DONE IT WELL.

THAT IS WHERE I WANT TO COME INTO PLAY. I WAS NOT IN THE MILITARY BUT I DO WANT TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY. LAST YEAR I TRIED TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY BUT THE VOTERS DID NOT THINK SO BUT THIS YEAR WANT TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, THE COUNTY. I AM RUNNING FOR COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT TWO. TWO WEEKS AGO THERE WAS A MAP PRESENTED, AND I SAW THAT.

THIS WOULD DISTRICT MYSELF OUT. I HAVE BEEN SUBMITTING TO TROY, GOD BLESS HIM BECAUSE HE IS INNOVATIVE WITH E-MAILED AND VARIATIONS OF THE MAP. I WAS NOT AWARE THAT TONIGHT WE WERE VOTING ON THE FINAL MAP. WHAT I AM ASKING FOR IS ANOTHER TWO-WEEK DELAY OR STAY UNTIL TROY AND I CAN LOOK AT THE MAP AND IF TROY SAID THERE IS NO WAY IT WILL WORK THEN I WILL ACCEPT THAT, BUT I CANNOT GO DOWN NOT FIGHTING. AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER, THAT

[01:00:02]

THANK YOU. >> WE WILL GO TO THE TIME CERTAIN SPEAR WE WILL PICK UP THE DISCUSSION THERE. ANYONE ELSE WITH A COMMENT? I SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE

[CONSENT AGENDA]

>> ARE MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. COMMISSIONER RENNINGER MAKES THE MOTION AND COMMISSIONER CONDON SEC. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED IT CARRIES 5-0. IT IS 5:00 P.M. SO WE WILL JUMP FROM WHERE WE ARE ON THE AGENDA,

[20.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider LDC 2021-10, a text amendment to Structural Course Depth ((Sec. 8-11(19)(c)1.b.)) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to approve. (R.Smith)]

THAT WILL COME INTO INTERPRET THAT. >> I HAVE BACK UP TODAY.

THIS IS A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE THAT WE HEARD LAST TUESDAY AND THEY RECOMMENDED WITH A VOTE OF 6-0 IN FAVOR. SOME BACKGROUND IN JUNE 2018 THEY APPROVED AND AMENDMENT BUT DID NOT INCREASE THE DEPTH FOR OTHER ROADS. THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD INCREASE THE DEPTH TO 2 INCHES AND BRING THE POLICY AND ALIGNMENT WITH CURRENT PRACTICE AND STANDARDS. YOU CAN SEE THE POWERPOINT BUT I CAN'T.

THE NEXT LINE. SO, THIS IS THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE OF THE CODE.

UNDER 1B IS WHERE THE CHANGE IS TO 2 INCHES. WE ALSO SPECIFY THIS WILL BE IN TWO INSTEAD OF ONE LIFT. BASICALLY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE IMPROVEMENT.

RICHARD SMITH IS HERE IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING QUESTIONS.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR BETH, IS THIS ENOUGH? IS THIS ENOUGH?

RICHARD. >> RICHARD SMITH. THIS IS FINE.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CUL-DE-SACS AND THE ROADWAYS AND ANY NEW SUBDIVISION STREETS.

THE REASON FOR THE 2 INCHES, THE SPECIFICATIONS DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO PUT LESS THAN 1 INCH BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE STONE. WE WERE GETTING ONE AND A QUARTER OF AN INCH LIFT WHEN IT WAS ALL OVER. DURING THAT TIME YOU HAD A LOT OF TRAFFIC BUILDING THE HOME SPEAR WITH THIS WE ARE EXPECTING 1 INCH AND THEY CAN BUILD THE HOMES AND BUILD THE WINN-DIXIE, FINISH IT THEN PUT THE LAST LIFT DOWN WITH EVERYTHING NEW. SO IT WOULD BE STRUCTURALLY

SUFFICIENT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR RICHARD? >> RICHARD, I HAVE ALWAYS WONDERED IS THERE DIFFERENT GRADES OF ASPHALT. IF THE AGGREGATE IS LARGE AND

I'VE SEEN SOME FINE AGGREGATE. >> WE JUST REBUILD A SECTION OF LONG BAY ROAD.

WE TOOK DOWN A 4-INCH THIS IS A LARGER STONE THAT YOU SEE ON INTERSTATE 95 AND ROADS LIKE THAT. THEN WE CAME ON TOP OF THAT WITH 2 INCHES OF THE SMOOTH COURSE

THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO ROLLERBLADE ON. >> THAT IS MY QUESTION.

WHEN WE REPAVE THE STREETS, DO WE SPECIFY THE ASPHALT PUT ON THE STREET?

>> SR. WE DID EN LONG BAY. ON THE TYPICAL ONCE WE ARE DOING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, WE USE ONE TYPE AND 209 SOUTH USE A DIFFERENT ONE.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR RICHARD? >> WAS PUT DOWN ORIGINALLY? HOW THICK WAS IT.

[01:05:03]

>> IT WAS A VERY GOOD. WE FAILED THAT PART. >> THERE ARE SOME ODDITIES OUT THERE. I FEEL LIKE, I HAVE ONLY BEEN HERE 13 MONTHS.

WEISE SEEM TO BE EXPERIMENTAL NOT COUNTING THE ONE THEY ARE BUILDING ON THE REAL ONE WHICH IS THE FIRST ONE IN THE NATION. THE EXPERIMENT THEY USED DID NOT WORK.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE ACRONYMS. IT DID NOT WORK FOR THAT TYPE OF SURFACE.

OAK LEAF PROBABLY PART OF THE SAME GENERATION. IT WORKS GREAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO MIAMI AND YOU ARE NOT STOPPING BUT IF YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT AND GOING

HOME WHERE YOU WILL BE IN TRAFFIC IT WON'T WORK. >> WE WILL PUT DOWN, A SUPER

REPAVE THAT IS THE SMALL STONE OR 2-INCH LIVE. >> THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.

>> NOVEMBER 29, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> THE MONDAY AFTER

THANKSGIVING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR BETH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

APPROVE, I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION. >> ARE MOVED FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> HOLD ONTO THAT. >> WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. I DON'T SEE NONE. NOW I WILL TAKE THE MOTION.

>> ONCE AGAIN I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> ONCE AGAIN I WILL ACCEPT YOUR MOTION. COMMISSIONER BOLLA MAKES A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER BURKE SEC. IT CARRIES 5-0. >> NUMBER 21, CONSIDERING LDC

2021 -- 11 TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE ROADWAY REQUIREMENT. >> THIS WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK AND THEY WANT TO APPROVE IT. THIS IS A TRAFFIC OPERATIONS APPLICATION AS WELL. THE BACKGROUND THE BBC APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS TO REQUIRE ROADWAYS TO BE INSTALLED TO THE TOP ELEVATION.

THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD CHANGE THE WORDING IN THAT. THE REQUIREMENT TO BE ROADWAY BASED INSTEAD OF THE SUBGRADE THESE ARE MORE STABILIZE AND BETTERS SUITED FOR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. THE NEXT LINE IT IS THE EXACT LANGUAGE.

YOU CAN SEE THE LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED. THE TERMINOLOGY.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND SMITH IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THE SUBGRADE

TERMINOLOGY. >> ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR BETH? ANYTHING FOR RICHARD? I HEAR NONE, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[21.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to consider LDC 2021-11, a text amendment to the Building Permit Issuance Roadway Requirement ((Sec. 2-13(1)(b)2.c.) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to approve. (R. Smith)]

CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING BRINGING IT BACK I WILL NOW CONSIDER A MOTION.

>> ARE MOVED FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED IT CARRIES 5-0.

[22.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing to consider LDC 2021-08, a text amendment to the Multi-Story Mini-Warehouses in Branan Field Activity Center. (Commission Districts 2,4 and 5, Commissioners Bolla, Condon and Burke, respectively) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to approve. (B. Carson)]

THEY HEARD THIS LAST TUESDAY AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY A VOTE OF 6-0 BUT THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. BACKGROUND OF PURGATION MULTI- WAREHOUSES ARE CONDITIONAL USE IN MANY ZONING DISTRICTS. THEY REQUIRE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR THOSE USES TO INCLUDE LANDSCAPING, SETBACKS AND LIGHTING AND ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS AND ROAD LOCATION.

THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL CONDITIONAL USE AND WAREHOUSES. THE APPLICANT WHICH IS KIMBERLY HORN AS PROVIDED A SUGGESTED CHANGE TO THE CODE WHICH WOULD APPLY TO ONLY THE MANY

[01:10:01]

THEY ARE BOTH DARK PINK AREAS. THIS IS THE DIAGONAL ROAD GOING ACROSS.

THE ROAD GOING STRAIGHT UP. >> THE MAXIMUM SURFACE THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THE CHANGE BE TO 65% IT IS CURRENTLY 55. THE SETBACKS WOULD BE GUIDED BY THE SHOPPING STREET STANDARDS WHICH APPLY AND THEY REQUIRE 81S ANY RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THERE WOULD BE SETBACKS UP 20 FEET.

CURRENTLY IT IS 25 FEET IN THE FRONT AND 20 FEET AND THE REAR. THEY ARE PROPOSING TO KEEP THE SAME STANDARD OF 25 FEET IF IT IS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. THEY ARE PROPOSING THE LOADING

ZONES ARE ON THE SIDE. >> THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD CHANGE THE LANDSCAPING STANDARDS TO APPLY TO USE THESE STANDARDS ALONE. THIS WOULD INCLUDE THE SHOPPING STREET STANDARDS AND THE BUFFER. CURRENTLY THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRES A 50-FOOT BUFFER IN THE FRONT AND 50 FEET AND THE BACK AND BESIDES THESE AREAS HAVE A LOT OF LANDSCAPING WHICH WE ARE NOT AGAINST THAT IS A LITTLE MUCH. THIS WOULD BE WITHIN-AREA.

CURRENTLY THEY WOULD HAVE PUT SETBACK WITH THE LANDSCAPING. >> STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THESE CHANGES AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? >> HOW MUCH HIGHER WILL WE GO. >> THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING TO CHANGE THE HEIGHT. IT WOULD BE THE SAME IN THE CONDITIONAL USE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE 55 FEET. >> I'M LOOKING AT THE SETBACKS. YOU DON'T WANT A HOUSE AGAINST

THIS WITH A 50-FOOT BUILDING. >> THERE'S ONLY 15% IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER WHICH CAN BE HOUSING. IN THAT CASE MULTI FAMILY HOUSING.

THIS IS IN THE HIGHER BUILDINGS. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> THE FRONT WOULD BE 15 AND

THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPE STRIP. >> THE OFFICE BUILDINGS WOULD BE THE SAME. BASICALLY THESE BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.

THEY REQUIRE VERTICAL ELEMENTS AND SPECIFIC STANDARDS AS FAR AS MATERIALS.

THE CHANGE IS 55%. DOES THAT CHANGE THE RUNOFF REQUIREMENTS AND PONDING

REQUIREMENTS? >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE MORE STORMWATER SURFACE AREA.

[01:15:06]

>> ARE YOU ARE SAYING THE RETENTION POND WOULD HAVE TO BE BIGGER?

>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR BETH. LET'S BRING THE APPLICANT DOWN. >> GOOD EVENING MY NAME IS MARK SHELTON. MY ADDRESS IS 12740 GRANT PARKWAY WEST, JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US. WE AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION

OF APPROVAL. >> DID YOU WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN?

>> I WILL ASK YOU THE QUESTION. THIS WILL -- >> DO YOU WANT TO REPEAT THE

QUESTION? THIS IS NOT GETTING ANY HIGHER. >> DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ABOVE LOCATIONS. I KNOW YOU DESCRIBED WHERE THESE COULD BE DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THIS HELP ME TOO UNDERSTAND THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL. ACTIVITY CENTERS ARE INTENDED TO BE IN THE MASTER PLAN THERE ARE PERCENTAGES AND THE LIMITATION IS THERE. THIS IS MORE OF OUR ACTIVITIES RELATED TO OUR JOBS RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL INTENDED FOR THE MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY.

>> THIS IS WHERE THE HOSPITAL IS. THIS IS THE HAMPTON MEN HOTEL WHERE'S THE OTHER ACTIVITY CENTER? THREE CIRCUIT TO GO BACK.

THIS IS THE OTHER PART. THIS IS AT THE TOP. THE SUBDIVISION IS UP THERE.

THERE HAS BEEN NO DEVELOPMENT TO DATE. WE HAVE HAD NO PROPOSALS BUT

NOTHING HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN JUST YET. >> DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE

LANDSCAPING. WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO DOWNSIZE. >> THE ACTIVITY CENTER LEFT OUT SPECIFIC CONDITIONS FOR MINISTORAGE DEVELOPMENT. THOUGH IT DEFAULTS TO THE OLD COLD. WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE IS DEVELOPING TEXT FOR THIS SPECIFIC USE. WE ARE MEETING ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

THIS IS ALL OF THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY WITH WROUGHT IRON FENCING AND OTHER SETBACKS AND ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN FEATURES. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERLAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MARK OR BETH? DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? I SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK

TO THE BOARD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION. >> I MOVED FOR APPROVAL.

I THOUGHT IT WAS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

I HAVE ALREADY MOVED ON TO THE NEXT ONE. I'M JUST TRYING TO MOVE IT

[01:20:04]

[23.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard: Adoption of Resolution approving the issuance by the Housing Finance Authority of Clay County of its Multifamily Housing Revenue Bonds, Series 2021, in the aggregate amount not to exceed $28,500,000 to provide funds to finance the multifamily residential rental housing project for the benefit of Nathan Ridge, Ltd., a Florida limited partnership, or its affiliate. This reflects an increase in the principal amount of the Bonds from $24,000,000 to $28,500,000 (T. Sumner/W. Milford)]

>> HELLO I AM PART OF THE FINANCE AUTHORITY. MR. MILFORD IS HERE HE IS THE BOND COUNSEL FOR THE PROJECT. HE IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THE

RESOLUTION. >> AS TERESA MENTIONED, THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU IS FOR APPROVAL OF THE SAME BOND ISSUE THAT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN MARCH AND INCREASES IN THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. THIS HAS INCREASED FROM 24,000,00228 GOD.

THE SAME MATTER AS BEFORE BUT THE IRS REQUIRES WITHIN INCREASE IT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING THAT HAS OCCURRED AND APPROVAL TO COME BACK BEFORE THE COUNCIL. DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR

ME? >> IS THIS DUE TO MATERIAL COSTS IS THAT THE REASON?

>> THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES. >> THIS IS 20%.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TERESA? THEY ARE JUST LOOKING FOR MORE

MONEY TO FINISH THE PROJECT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> THIS IS PAID OUT OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FUNDS. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO TOO MUCH OF ANYTHING WITH THIS.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? IS THIS A PUBLIC HEARING? I WILL MOVE APPROVAL.

I SECOND. THE MOTION BY COMMISSIONER RENNINGER AND A SECOND BY BURKE.

[24.  5:00 pm or as soon thereafter as can be heard. First Public Hearing to Consider LDC 21-13; Text Amendment to Article III to add solar facility as a permitted use in Agriculture zoning district. Planning Commission Voted 4-2 to approve. (M.Brown)]

THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER LDC TO ADD SOLAR. >> THIS IS A REQUESTED AMENDMENT FOR THE PLAN CODE INITIATED BY THE PLANNING ZONING STAFF, SPECIFICALLY REQUEST TO AMEND SECTION 312 OF THE CODE TO ADD SOLAR FACILITIES IN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT AND REMOVE THE CONDITIONAL THE STATE ADOPTED, THIS SECTION THE PURPOSES TO ENCOURAGE RENEWABLE ENERGY THROUGHOUT THE STATE. IT SET FOR THAT THEY SHOULD BE A PERMITTED USE PRESENTLY LDC ALLOWS FOR EXISTING SOLAR FACILITIES TO CONTINUE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ONLY ALLOWS IT UNDER THE ZONING AS A CONDITIONAL USE TODAY. TO COMPLY THE STAFF IS PROPOSING

[01:25:03]

CARRYING THIS FORWARD FROM WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. THIS WOULD BE SUBSECTION C AND OTHER WORDING THAT PROHIBITS AFTER NOVEMBER 24. THIS WOULD ADD SOLAR FACILITIES IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED SETBACKS.

THIS WOULD REMOVE SOLAR FACILITIES FROM THE CONDITIONAL USES THAT ARE ALLOWED.

THE PURPOSE IS TO BRING THIS AND COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LEGISLATION.

THEY WILL PROPOSE CHANGES ON NOVEMBER 2 AND VOTE 4-2 FOR APPROVAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET

STAFF KNOW. >> THIS IS THE FIRST. >> I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE I KNOW WE HAD TO CHANGE, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO LOOK INTO THE SETBACKS TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN LIGHT OF YESTERDAY'S FIRE THAT DOES COME UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, CAN YOU SEE IF THIS IS ENOUGH BECAUSE YESTERDAY WAS SCARY FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE BESIDE IT. SORT OF FAITHFUL MOVING ELECTRICAL FIRE. COMMENDING THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

>> WE CAN LOOK TO SEE IF WE NEED ANY OTHER CHANGES. >> IF WE CHANGE THE CLOCK DO WE

HAVE TO GO TO -- TWO DIFFERENT HEARINGS. >> THE IMPLICATION IS THAT ANYONE WITH THE ZONING COULD PUT IN A SOLAR FARM WITHOUT TALKING TO US AT ALL.

>> IT IS A DIFFICULT -- >> I SUPPORT SOLAR BUT. >> THAT IS WHERE YOU SOLVE THE BOATS. THEY CHOMPED ON OUR ABILITY TO SEE WHERE IT IS RIGHT OR NOT SO

[01:30:05]

WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON THE OTHER DAY WILL TALK ABOUT IT. THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL EXAMPLE.

>> THERE ARE COUNTIES THAT LOVE THIS. BAKER COUNTY SINGS PRAISES.

BUT BRADFORD COUNTY HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET A SOLAR FACILITY. I THINK WHAT HAPPENED, IN TALLAHASSEE A LOT OF THE SMALLER COUNTIES WERE ELIMINATED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH MAN WAS

TO HAVE ENOUGH. I THINK IT IS 8-9 ACRES. >> USUALLY, ANYWHERE BETWEEN

500-800 ACRES. >> WE TALKED ABOUT SAVING GREEN SPACE.

THERE'S AN UNWRITTEN CAVEAT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PRESERVE FARMING AND THIS TAKES THIS ALL AWAY. WE CANNOT CONTROL WHAT IS HAPPENING.

>> WE HOPE THE LAND OWNERS HOLD ONTO THE LAND SO WE CAN HOLD ONTO THAT.

>> FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT IS PRETTY BIG. >> WE HAVE DEALT WITH, WE HAD --

>> WE CANNOT FORGET, THEY PRODUCE THE PRODUCT FOR OUR CONSUMPTION.

IF WE REDUCE CONSUMPTION, THEY WILL NOT HAVE A NEED FOR IT. THE END RESULT, PEOPLE CAUSE THE PROBLEMS AND THEIR HABITS. FPL IS JUST SERVING THE PUBLIC, JUST AS WE ARE.

>> I ASKED THEM IF THE POWER WAS BEING USED IN CLAY COUNTY AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.

>> WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HIP HEARING AND ANOTHER ONE ON THE 23RD PERIOD.

[25.  5:00 pm or as soon thereafter as can be heard. Public Hearing to Consider Z-21-12: Rezone Single Parcel of Land from RB to AR. (Comm. Burke, District 5) Planning Commission voted 6-0 to approve. (M.Brown)]

>> THE SECOND HEARING WILL BE ON THE 23RD. ONTO NUMBER 25.

>> THIS IS A ZONING REQUEST THE APPLICANT IS CHRISTOPHER HANEY. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON BRICKYARD ROAD. IT IS A ZONING CHANGE FROM THIS TO RESIDENTIAL.

IT IS AN THE PLANNING DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE. THIS WAS VOTED 6-02 RECOMMEND APPROVAL. OF BACKGROUND, THIS IS A 1 ACRE PARCEL.

AS I INDICATED IT HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION. JUST SOME HISTORY, THE PARCEL WAS REZONED IN 2014 SO THEY ARE GOING BACK. THIS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING. IN REVIEWING THE HISTORY, THIS IS ALONG WITH THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON THE DEED WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER. THIS IS 100 FEET WHICH EACH THE REQUIREMENTS. THERE IS A MAP SHOWING THE RVS PARCEL THIS IS TO THE SOUTH.

[01:35:20]

THE APPLICANT AS I INDICATED IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING. THE PROPOSED DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE. IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DESERVE -- CONFIRMED THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING LAND USE. AS I INDICATED THEY INDICATED APPROVAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE.

>> I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT. >> I DID NOT KNOW.

I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY LATER. IT IS GREAT TO KNOW IT HAS ROAD FRONTAGE.

IF YOU GUYS COULD GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT BONUS.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO GO SHOPPING WHEN I GO TO NEW YORK TOMORROW. >> DO YOU LIVE ON THE PROPERTY

NOW? >> I STILL LIVE AROUND THE CORNER.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I GUESS WE ARE GOOD. HANG IN THERE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE A BOTH. WE WILL BRING GET BACK TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE A BOAT OR A MOTION TO APPROVE?

>> THIS IS THE MOTION AND THE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? IT CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU SIR.

[26.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - 2nd/Final Public Hearing to consider adoption of CPA 2021-13, adopting a new element to the 2040 Comprehensive Plan to be known as N. Property Rights Element. (D. Selig)]

>> NUMBER 26. THE 2ND AND FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR ADOPTION OF A NEW

ELEMENT TO THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. >> THIS ITEM HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU BEFORE, IT IS THE SECOND HEARING. IT WAS SENT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY THEY SAID THEY HAD NO OBJECTION. WE BRING IT TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO ADOPT BEHIND TONIGHT. THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF

EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? HURRY NOT BE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 26. DESIGNING -- WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 26. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

[27.  5:00 PM or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing for consideration of a Resolution designating the real property located at 1914 Bryce Landing Way, Middleburg, Florida, Parcel ID Number 05-05-25-009018-000-00, as a Brownfield Area pursuant to Section 376.80(2)(c), Florida Statutes]

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> WE MOVED TO NUMBER 27. THIS ONE HAS BEEN CONTINUED BY THE APPLICANT UNTIL DECEMBER 14. WE WILL CALL FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE WE ADVERTISE IT.

DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? I SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD WE WILL CONTINUE THIS UNTIL DECEMBER 14 AND THEN

[28.  5:00 PM or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing regarding Redistricting]

THIS IS REDISTRICTING. >> BEFORE YOU HAVE THE MAP THAT YOU APPROVED FOR PUBLIC

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>> THIS IS THE SAME ONE THEY ADVERTISE AS THEIR ONE AND ONLY OPTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT MAP CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?

>> WE HAVE 7-8 THAT WE PRESENTED MOST OF YOU HAVE LOOKED AT DIFFERENT VERSIONS.

WE DID MEET AND HAVE ONE WE SHARED LAST WEEK. THERE WERE CONCERNS IT DOES MEET THE 10% RULE BUT THERE ARE CONCERNS. FRIDAY HE SENT ME FOR IDEAS AND TIMING WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO RUN THEM OUT. I WOULD SAY STAFF HAS RAN 78 --

SEVEN OR EIGHT VERSIONS OF THIS ONE HAS THE CONSENSUS. >> THAT WAS THE PURPOSE

ADVERTISED, IF THERE IS A A CHANCE TO DO THAT. >> WORK THIS PROBLEM FOR THE LAST MONTH THAN I HAVE. WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY THAT THE PROPOSAL MAY MEET THE OTHER

REQUIREMENTS, IS IT 10%? >> ALL I CAN SAY, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A SERIES OF MAPS, WE HAVE MET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY ON THOSE OPTIONS. WE CAME UP WITH THE TWO THAT MET THRESHOLD AND THEY WERE BEST PRESENTED. THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE ANOTHER ONE EXIST. THERE ARE LIMITATIONS THAT CAN BE DONE.

>> THE TIMEFRAME IS WE CAN STILL DO A TWO-WEEK CYCLE ON THIS AND STILL MEET OUR OBLIGATION, CORRECT I HAVE TRIED LOOKING AT THE COMMENTS, I SAID IN A CHAIR TRYING TO READ THAT STUFF.

I -- THERE WERE NO OTHER APPS AVAILABLE. I SUSPECT THIS IS THE BEST WE WILL GIVE. THERE WERE 4-5 OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHOSE DISTRICT WILL CHANGE. WE GOT NO COMMENTS FROM THEM. THE ONLY PLACE WE GOT COMMENTS WERE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE FILED FOR CANDIDACY FOR AN OPEN SEAT.

MY CONCERN IS TWOFOLD. NUMBER ONE, WE WOULD BE OPENED UP FOR ACCUSATIONS OF GERRYMANDERING IF WE CHANGE OUR MAPS TO REACH THE REQUEST OF THE FEW CITIZENS.

THE COMMENTS WERE 4-5. I READ THE MALL AND I RESPONDED TO THE E-MAILS.

THEY SEEM TO BE CENTERED AROUND SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND SCHOOLS ZONE REDISTRICTING.

WHEN I RESPONDED TO THE RESIDENCE ALL BUT ONE OF THEM WAS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THE VOTING DISTRICTS. THE OTHERS WERE CONFUSING IT WITH SIMILAR REZONING OCCURRING

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I JUST KNOW IF YOU GAVE THE PUBLIC AND HE'S PART OF THAT HE SHOULD HAVE THE CHANCE.

THAT'S WHAT WE SAID LAST TIME IF YOU HAVE IDEAS PRESENTED. HE HAS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN SAY NO. >> I DISAGREE WITH THAT. I DISAGREE STRONGLY.

WE SET UP THE TIMEFRAME. I KNOW BILL VERY WELL. I THINK HE WOULD MAKE A GREAT CANDIDATE. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, EVEN BEFORE WE GOT HERE BECAUSE OF HIS SITUATION, WE TOOK A SITUATION AND READ PLATE IS SUGGESTION WITH MEETING THE OTHER REQUIREMENT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE HAVE LAID OUT THE TIMEFRAME AND NOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW SOMEONE WILL STEP FORWARD AND SAY I CAME UP WITH THEM MAP BUT

WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. >> I HAVE LOST HALF OF MY DISTRICT.

>> I DON'T KNOW THE REASON THEY HAVE NOT MET. >> WE MET ON MONDAY WE WENT THROUGH PERMUTATIONS OF THE MAP. THE BILL CENTERED AROUND HIS PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT THAT DOES IN TERMS OF THE REST OF DISTRICT TWO AND IF IT IMPACTS DISTRICT THREE OR FOUR.

WE HAVE 218,000 PEOPLE 245 PEOPLE, WE HAVE 218,000 PEOPLE WAITING FOR OUR DECISION AND ONE PERSON UNHAPPY. I UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS UNHAPPY. I EMPATHIZE WITH THE SITUATION BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE GONE THROUGH DIFFERENT DIVERSIONS OF THE MAP, AND NONE

OF THOSE WERE CLOSE. >> WE WERE ABLE TO PASS SOMETHING THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO AND THAT IS TO COME TO A CONSENSUS THAT WAS MORE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT TO THE VOTERS. I THINK WE HAVE BEEN COLLEGIAL. I TO SYMPATHIZE.

>> HE IS NOT THE ONLY CANDIDATE. WE HAVE ANOTHER CANDIDATE AND YOU HEARD FROM HER.

WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM HER. I ANSWERED THE E-MAILS PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

I KNOW THEY ARE TIRED OF HEARING FROM US ABOUT THE SITUATION. I AM HOPING THEY WILL GET INTO THE RIGHT REDISTRICTING. BUT YES, WE DO HAVE TEN ELECTED OFFICIALS WORKING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE THE SAME DISTRICT SENT THE SAME NUMBER OF DISTRICTS. THERE'S A LOT LESS CONFUSION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY THAT IS AS MUCH AS YOU CAN HAVE AS FAR AS THE SAME NUMBERS. IT WASN'T 2010 OR 2000 WHEN THEY WERE SPLIT. THIS IS TRULY, A TERRIFIC SIGN TO SHOW HOW THEY HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO MOVE FORWARD. I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE A BAD SIGNAL TO THE SCHOOL BOARD BASED ON THE FACT THEY WERE FEELING LIKE THEY WERE DOUBLECROSSED THE LAST TIME.

THEN THE SCHOOL BOARD WENT AHEAD WITH THEIR OWN DISTRICT. WE LAID OUT THE PROCESS LONG

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LIKE TO SPEAK,. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY WHETHER YOU VOTE TO STAY OR NOT. THE SECOND THING IS, I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER MAPS OTHER THAN THE ONE PUBLISHED TWO WEEKS AGO. I KNOW HOW I HAVE BEEN CALLED ABOUT DIFFERENT MAPS BUT I DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, TWO WEEKS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GO THROUGH AND REDO THE NUMBERS OR LOOK AT THE POPULATION AND SO FORTH. AS I HAVE SAID EARLIER TODAY, I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH TROY.

HE HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO'S SPEAK ON THE REDISTRICTING?

WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> I MOVE WE APPROVED THIS AS APPROVED. WE ADVERTISED TWO MAPS TWO WEEKS AGO.

I MOVE WE APPROVED THE ONE ADVERTISED. >> I SECOND THE MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? ALL RIGHT, I HEAR NONWAIVABLE CALL TO QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED?

IT CARRIES 5-0. >> THANK YOU. THAT WILL BE, WHAT WE WILL TALK

ABOUT THE 23RD. >> IT WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

WE WILL WORK ON THOSE AND GET THOSE DRAFTED UP FOR REVIEW. CHANGE WE HAVE JUST APPROVED THE CHANGE. AND THEN TO MAKE IT OFFICIALLY LEGAL YOU HAVE TO ADOPT THE

LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS. >> WE ARE DONE WITH OUR TIME CERTAIN SPIRITS WE HAVE A

[11.  Progress Report on the Bonded Transportation Program (C. Campos)]

EDIT IS ON THE INJURED RESERVE LIST. CARLOS,.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM ONE OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS I AM SUBSTITUTING FOR ED TODAY.

I AM HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON THE PROGRESS THE TEAM IS MADE. A COUPLE OF HIGHLIGHTS.

I CONTINUE THE DESIGN AND INPUT FROM THE CONTRACTOR. FOR THIS PACKAGE THIS WAS COMPLETED AND ADVERTISED ON OCTOBER 21. FOR PROJECT NUMBER ONE, ACCORDING TO DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD, THE TEAM IS DEVELOPING A PLAN TO MANAGE, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCT DUE TO AVAILABLE FUNDING. ONE 100%.

FOR THESE PROJECTS JACOBSON SUBMITTED AND THE TEAM IS REVIEWING THE PLANS OR PROJECTS NUMBER TWO AND FIVE. FOR NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE RECEIVED 30% PLANS WITH THIS UNDER

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NINE FIRMS SHOWED UP. WE ANTICIPATED AT LEAST SIX. THE TEAM CONTINUES TO MEET AND WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST METHODS TO WORK TOGETHER ON CONSTRUCTION AND WATER TREATMENT OPPORTUNITIES. THE TEAM ALSO CONTINUES TO REDEFINE OUR FINANCIAL FORECASTS AS THE COUNTY RECEIVES PRICING ESTIMATES.

AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION PRICING VARIABLES AND CHANGES IN COMMODITIES.

SEEK WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE NEXT MONTH. WE EXPECT TO RECEIVED DESIGN PROJECTS. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE DESIGNERS AND CONTRACTORS. THAT IS OUR UPDATE. THIS WAS UPDATED ON A MONTHLY

BASIS THANK YOU AND WE WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS

FOR CARLOS? >> ARE YOU SEEING THE COSTS GO UP?

>> WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE AND WE ARE TRYING TO LEVERAGE THE MOBILITY FEE CREDITS.

WE ARE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN THE ALLOCATED BUDGET. WE HAVE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN

INVESTIGATING ON. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATED. GOOD JOB. >>

[12.  Update from Investment Committee and approval of Resolution amending the Board's Investment Policy]

>> THERE'S ONE BASEBALL FAN OUT THERE. >> WE WILL MOVE TO NUMBER 12,

CALLING ON THE COUNTY CLERK TO UPDATE US AND. >> JUST A LITTLE BACKGRUND TO REMIND EVERYONE, FIRST OF ALL BEFORE I DO THAT I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE AND THANK AMY THE FINANCE OFFICER FOR HER HARD WORK DOING RESEARCH FOR THE COMMITTEE SO WE COULD COME FORWARD WITH RECOMMENDATIONS. SHE DID ANALYSIS AND DATA GATHERING SO THANK YOU.

>> BACK -- JUST A QUICK UPDATE. BACK IN OCTOBER 20, WHEN THE DUTIES ROLLED OVER TO MY SIDE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALIZE WE HAVE A LOT OF CASH WHICH IS GOOD.

WE IMMEDIATELY ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE OUR CASH NEEDS AND THIS IS WHERE THE BIRTH OF THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE CAME ABOUT THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE, AND I HAVE A PRESENTATION SOMEWHERE. IM TAKING A WAY THAT IF ANYTHING GOES AWAY WITH THE INVESTMENT

POLICY, AMY IS TO BE BLAMED. >> ACTUALLY IT BELONGS TO THE BOARD.

>> I RETRACT THAT STATEMENT. >> WHILE HE IS PULLING IT UP, THE THREE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD AND TO REVIEW WHAT THE COMPETITORS -- COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF AND WE WILL NEED APPROVAL THROUGH RESOLUTION OF THE UPDATED INVESTMENT POLICY WHICH IS NOT REALLY SUBSTANTIAL THEY ARE REALLY MORE MECHANICAL.

JUST TO REFLECT THE CHANGES THAT TOOK PLACE. JUST TO RECAP THE PURPOSE WAS TO PROVIDE AN OVERALL DIRECTION OF THE INVESTMENT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CURRENT

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NEED CASHMERE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT WAS A CREEK CRITERIA. >> A RECAP OF THE MEETINGS, WE HAVE OF VIEW. THE CURRENT ONE THE BOARD PASSED, I THINK WHEN THE BOND PROJECT TOOK OFF, THOSE CHANGES, LIKE I SAID WERE MINOR. THE ROLE OF THE CLERK AND COME CONTROLLER, WE ADDED THE ROLE OF THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE AND WE ALSO ADDED A TIMELINE THAT IF WE HAVE INVESTMENTS AND THEY FALL BEHIND, WE WOULD BRING IT BACK IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE TO ADDRESS AND THE TIMELINE WAS THREE MONTHS OF DECREASED EARNINGS.

WE HAVE ALSO, AND THIS IS WHERE AMY DID A LOT OF WORK. WE REVIEWED CASH FLOWS FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEARS TO GET WHAT WE NEED FOR AN OPERATING ACCOUNT. THE NET OUTFLOWS PRIMARILY IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR END THE NEW COMING IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. WE ALSO IN THE ANALYSIS LOOKED AT THE MONTH IN WHICH WE HAD ANY NATURAL DISASTERS LIKE A HURRICANE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE INCREASED EXPENSES THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE. WE ALSO REVIEWED AVERAGE RETURNS, WE REVIEWED AVERAGE RETURNS ON EACH OF THE INVESTMENTS AND OVERALL INVESTMENTS AND WE DISCUSSED AND RECOMMENDED ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS.

SO BASICALLY AFTER THE INITIAL REVIEW OF CASH FLOW OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, THERE WAS A LOT OF CASH WE COULD TAKE AND PUT INTO AS YOU CAN SEE, 107 MILLION, THIS IS THE POOL THAT WE HAVE AND IT IS PERFORMING FAIRLY WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE FLORIDA SAFE WITH 33 MILLION AND WITH THE BOND PROJECTS, THAT IS THE ONE THAT CARLOS ALLUDED TO.

WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE A RETURN ON THAT AS WELL. AS YOU CAN SEE I JUST WANT TO NOTE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES, IF YOU LOOK AT THE GREENLINE YOU WILL SEE THE MAXIMUM PER INVESTMENT POLICY, IT IS AT 80% AND THE OTHERS, IF IN THEIR GREEN IS THE ACTUAL CURRENT AMOUNT, WE ARE WELL WITHIN OUR INVESTMENT POLICY SO THAT GIVES US ROOM TO SEE WHERE WE WANT TO PUT THE CASH. GOING INTO, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT ON THE WELLS FARGO ACCOUNT, AT THE TIME WE DID THIS THE CASH IN THE ACCOUNT, IT IS PROBABLY HIGHER WAS 117.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HOWARD ASKED IS, LET'S LOOK AT THE NET EARNINGS, BY INVESTMENT FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR END THAT IS A GOOD PRACTICE TO HAVE. WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THIS GRAPH IS THAT FLORIDA PRIME IS ON AN AVERAGE BASIS OUTPERFORMING FLORIDA SAFE AS ONE OF THE POOLS WE USE FOR INVESTMENT. THOSE BASIS POINTS ARE, WHAT SHE HAS PROVIDED IS AN AVERAGE HIGH AND LOW BECAUSE THEY DO MOVE AROUND A LOT. JUST TO WRAP UP, WHAT WE WANTED

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WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THE EXCESS CASH FROM THE WELLS FARGO OPERATING ACCOUNT AND MOVE $50 MILLION, SO THAT WOULD BE A NEW POOL THAT WE WOULD INVEST IN AND MOVE THE REMAINDER -- AMY WHEE WAS IT DID YOU GET A NEW NUMBER? AROUND 20 MILLION EXCESS INTO THE FLORIDA PRIME. WITH THA SAID, THAT WILL PUT UPSET 30% WELL WITHIN THE POLICY AND ONCE WE MOVED UP 25 MILLION PLUS 533 MILLION IT WILL BE AROUND 42.5%.

WE ARE STILL IN THE POLICY THERE. IT WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE A NEW INVESTMENT AT HIGHER EARNINGS AND WE WILL MONITOR THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

IT SHOULD YIELD AN ADDITIONAL $100,000 IN EARNINGS. WITH THAT WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE EXCESS CASH AS THE TAXES COME IN. ANY MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE, MOVE THEM INTO THE FLORIDA PRIME AND ASSUME THEY ARE THE PERFORMERS WITH THE RETURN.

LONGER TERM WE NEED TO COMPLETE A CASH FORECAST FOR THE LATTER INVESTMENTS GENERATING BETTER RETURN SO WE PROTECT THE PRINCIPAL, AND WE WILL BE USING THE CIP AND THE MOVEMENT PROJECTS, IF THEY MOVE UP OR SPEED UP OR SLOW DOWN THAT WILL AFFECTED AND SO BEING IN COMMUNICATION WITH THAT IS CRITICAL. WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY

QUESTIONS. >> THAT SOUNDS GREAT. >> HOW LIQUID IS FLORIDA PRIME

AND FLORIDA STATE? >> LATER IN THE DAY, NEXT MORNING, THEY ARE VERY LIQUID.

>> QUESTIONING. >> BACK WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, ONE OF THE FLORIDA FUNDS WENT BANKRUPT AND THEY HAD TO TIE UP THE MONEY AND WE FINALLY GOT IT AFTER A YEAR.

IS THIS THE SAME TYPE OF A FUND? >> NO, I LOOKED AT THE MARKET VALUE OF THE FUNDS AND THEY ARE

HEALTHY. >> HOW FAR BACK DID YOU GO? >> I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR YOU WENT

BACK -- >> 2005. >> I LOOKED AT THIS YEAR'S MARKET VALUE AND SOME ARE IN THE BILLIONS OR THE THREE DIGIT MILLIONS PREPARE VERY HEALTHY.

AMY DID THE IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS. >> ONE OF THE THINGS YOU LOOK AT IS THE RATING.

ALL OF THE FUNDS OPERATED BY SNP. FOR EXAMPLE AND I AM ASSUMING WHEN THE BOARD SAID 80% OF THE INVESTMENT COULD GO INTO THE SBA WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE MOST OF OUR MONEY, THAT IS A AAA RATED INVESTMENT. THE TOP OF THE SNP GUIDELINES.

IM AWARE OF THE POOL THAT DID HAVE THE ISSUES, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE UNDERLINING INVESTMENTS AND THEY WERE IN THE SECURITIES WHICH YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO IN ON THE WEBSITES AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE INVESTING IN. AS TARA SAID, WE ARE INVESTED VERY LIQUID WE CAN GET OUR MONEY SAME DAY OR THE NEXT DAY IF WE MISS THE AFTERNOON CUT OFF.

BUT AS WE GET BETTER AT FORECASTING, WE WILL SPEND TIME LOOKING AT IT, THAT IS WHERE YOU GET INTO MORE RISK IF YOU NEED THE FUNDS BEFORE YOUR INVESTMENTS MATURE.

THE FIRST THING WE LOOK AT IS THE SAFETY OF OUR PRINCIPAL. WE WILL GIVE UP SOME YIELD.

>> IT WAS UNHEARD OF WHEN THIS HAPPENED. THE SECOND THING IS, YOU MAY

MENTION IF WEIGHT LOSS MONEY THREE TIMES IN A ROW -- >> THREE CONSECUTIVE MONTHS OF

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SOME MAY HAVE LOWER FEEDS AND LOWER RETURNS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF VARIABLES YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT. OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING THE BEST RETURN AND IF WE SEE A DECREASE IN THE ACTUAL INVESTMENT, AFTER THREE MONTHS WE WOULD PUT IT BACK IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE AND TALK ABOUT TO MEET NEED TO MOVE THAT -- WITH THE CASH SOMEONE ELSE.

>> WITH THE LAST CHANGE, WHAT THE BOARD THEN AGREED TO AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS, THE MEASUREMENT WAS CHANGED TO THE SNB RATED INDEX GOVERNMENT 30 DAY NET OF FEES.

BUT LONG STATEMENT IS IT IS A PUBLISHED INDEX THAT THEY RECOMMENDED.

IF YOUR FUND FALLS BELOW THAT LEVEL OF EARNINGS, YOU OUGHT TO LOOK AT THAT RETURN.

WE AS A COMMITTEE SAID, LET'S TALK ABOUT A TIMEFRAME. THE ONLY THING WE SUGGESTED WAS THE CURRENT POLICY THE BOARD ADOPTED TO SAY, IRFAN INVESTMENT INVESTMENT TOOL FALLS BELOW THAT MEASUREMENT, THREE MONTHS IN A ROW, LET'S LOOK AT THE UNDERLINING STATISTICS.

IS IT SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT TO MOVE THE INVESTMENT OUT OF THE FUN.

>> IF IT FALLS BELOW THE GUIDELINE FOR THREE MONTHS IN A ROW.

SOMEONE WILL LOOK AT THAT. >> IM MONITORING IT REAL TIME. >> WE WILL RECOMMEND.

>> IF I CANNOT SEE IT I AM NOT ON THE HOOK SO WHO'S ON THE HOOK.

I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE AND WE WILL MEET.

THE BOARD WILL GET A MONTHLY REPORT. EVERY QUARTER THE BOARD WE WILL BE REPORTING AND I WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE GOING FORWARD. YOU WILL BE JUST AS

KNOWLEDGEABLE AS THE REST OF US. >> I JUST WANT TO KNOW, WHO HAS THE BALL FOR THIS.

IT IS A CHECK AND BALANCE KIND OF THING. >> I DID CHECK THE WEBSITE.

ONE IS AAA, AAA AND AAA F. JUST FOR THE BOARDS KNOWLEDGE, THESE ANNUAL RETURNS THAT ARE LISTED, I THINK FLORIDA PRIME WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. THE NUMBERS UP THERE ARE

AVERAGES AND THE LAST FISCAL YEAR,. >> THIS WILL BE MEASURED AGAINST THE BENCHMARK OF ALL FUNDS. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS INVESTING IN VERY SAFE INVESTMENTS AND WE ARE GETTING LIQUIDITY SO WE CAN GET IT BACK WHENEVER WE NEEDED. YOU WILL NOT GET IN TODAY'S MARKET, A VERY GOOD RETURN. AS WE PUSH IT OUT, WE HAVE ROUGHLY $380 MILLION IN THE BANK. WE WILL NOT NEED THAT IN SIX MONTHS.

BUT WHAT WILL WE NEED. AS WE PUT THIS INTO VERY SAFE TREASURES THIS IS NOTHING YOU

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INVESTMENT RISK. >> I MENTIONED IT BEFORE BUT WITH LIQUIDITY AND FAST REACTION. THE RUSSIANS REALIZE THAT TO. THEY CAN GET REAL SMART.

WE GOT IT BACK BUT WHEN $25 MILLION LEISURE ACCOUNT AND YOU DON'T KNOW IT WENT, WHOEVER

HAS THAT MAGIC BUTTON NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THIS IS WHY WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS LOOKING AT IT. AND RIGHT FROM THE START THERE WAS A DETERMINATION WE COULD MAKE MORE MONEY WITH OUR MONEY AND KEEP IT SAFE.

THAT IS THE WHOLE PREMISE. TO ADD TO WHATEVER MONEY THE COUNTY HAS AVAILABLE AT THE BENEFIT OF THE TAXPAYER AND KEEP THE NEST EGG SAY. THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> AMY SECURED MY PAYCHECK. THESE NUMBERS WE NEED TO APPROVE

THE RESOLUTION. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I MOVE WE APPROVE THE

RESOLUTION. >> SECOND. >> ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPALS IT CARRIES 5-0. NUMBER 13, REQUESTS BY BFC

[13.  Request by BFC Partnership, Limited, to amend the reverter clause included in the QuitClaim Deed from the County to BFC Partnership, Limited for the Blanding Blvd/Jennings Road Ponds]

>> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS FRANK MILLER IN NOVEMBER OF 2019, THE COUNTY COMPLETED A TRANSACTION WITH BMC PARTNERSHIPS ON A PARCEL OF PROPERTY AT THE INTERSECTION OF BLANDING BOULEVARD AND OLD JENNINGS ROAD, RELATED TO THE STORM WATER DRAINAGE PONDS LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME OWN. THE ARRANGEMENT WAS, FROM BFC STANDPOINT, THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM AND PROTECT YOU AGAINST AGAINST ANY CLAIMS. THERE WERE TWO CONDITIONS TO A REVERTER CLAUSE THE REVERTER SAID SHOULD LEAD TO THINGS NOT HAPPEN, THEN THIS PROPERTY WILL REVERT BACK TO THE COUNTY. THE FIRST WAS THE PROPERTY, ALONG WITH OTHER PROPERTY BE CONVEYED TO A PARTICULAR COMPANY THAT WAS AND CONTRACT WITH BFC AT THAT TIME TO PURCHASE THE WHOLE THING. IT WAS A CONDITION THAT IT OHCHR BY DECEMBER 31 OF THIS YEAR. THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT FIRE EXERCISE A RIGHT TO TERMINATE SO THAT CONTRACT IS DEAD. THAT BUYER HAS GONE AWAY, THAT CONDITION COULD NOT EVER BE SATISFIED. THE SECOND CONDITION WAS BY JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN MOVED TO ANOTHER LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY, AND MDOT WOULD BLESS THAT AND WOULD AGREE TO RELEASE THE COUNTY FROM ANY RESPONSIBILITY.

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THAT MAY BE CONFUSING, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SIMPLE BUT I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

>> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. MILLER THIS TIME? >> ANY DISCUSSION?

>> WHAT DOES THIS DO FOR THE COUNTY OR TO THE COUNTY? >> AS LONG AS BFC WILL MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY AND DOT IS HAPPY WITH IT, WE ARE FINE. AND IF NOT, THEN THE DOT COMES DOWN ON US, AND WE HAVE RECENTLY BEEN OUT THERE BUT WE DID HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THEY WILL

UNDERSTAND THE BETTER IDEA OF MAINTENANCE. >> BASICALLY IT SAVES US THE

COST OF MAINTAINING PONDS. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING. GO AHEAD.

>> WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DENY IT? >> THEN WE GET THE PROPERTY BACK.

PONDS. >> THEN WE GET TO TAKE CARE OF IT, CORRECT?

>> GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER. >> YOU SAID WE WENT OUT BECAUSE --

>> IT WAS OVERGROWN, IS THAT NOT FROM MAINTENANCE. >> THAT IS A REQUIREMENT, YES.

>> WE TOOK CARE OF IT AND THEY HAD A MISUNDERSTANDING, THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF IT.

>> WE WILL FIGURE THAT OUT BUT I WILL.OUT -- >> THERE IS BECAUSE YOUR

OBLIGATION IS TO MAINTAIN THE POND. >> IN THE AREA SURROUNDING IT.

NOW IT IS YOUR PROPERTY. >> THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING FROM BFC IT WAS THE WATER OF THE POND THEY WERE POSSIBLE FOR I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, THE BFC DID NOT

FEEL THEY WERE DOING WITH THEY WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO. >> AS A PROPERTY OWNER, WE HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION. WE PROPERLY MAINTAIN OUR PROPERTY AND THAT WAS OUR ISSUE.

>> IS NOT STRAIGHTENED OUT NOW? HAVE YOU AGREED ON WHAT CONSTITUTES MAINTENANCE OF EIGHT

DOT POND? >> I THINK SO. >> I CANNOT TELL YOU THAT I DO.

MY CLIENT, AND I. REPORTER: THE FDO T WAS TO MAINTAIN THE POND.

IF THE COUNTY WANTS BFC TO MAINTAIN THE GROUND AROUND THE POND, I AM SURE WE CAN DO THAT.

>> IS IT IN OUR CONTRACT? >> WE CONTINUED THAT YES THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT.

>> WE CAN CLARIFY THAT. >> I AM COUNTING MY FINGERS HERE.

>> HOW MANY OTHER PONDS THOSE NANCY OWN? >> JUST THESE TWO.

>> I DON'T UNDERSTAND, DO THEY HAVE FOUNTAINS IN THEM? >> NO.

>> SO -- WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE WATER IF YOU DON'T HAVE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) THIS WOULD -- I AM CONFUSED AS TO WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD TO DO THAT DID

NOT INCLUDE THE OUTSIDE. >> IS MAINTAINING THE WEEDS AND THE POND, LG IT IS CLEARING THE POND, AND IT IS BASICALLY LIKE DOCTORS. THEY MAINTAIN THE PONDS.

THAT IS WHAT THE BFC HAS PAID THEM TO DO FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

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>> SO THIS AGREEMENT GOES THROUGH JUNE 24. IT STOPS JUNE FIRST OF 2024.

DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO 0 AND GET A CLAUSE HERE? NOT THAT WE DON'T TRUST YOU.

>> I AM GETTING THE IMPRESSION YOU DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO COMMIT HERE.

COMMISSIONER. >> WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF YOU KEEPING THE PROPERTY? I KNOW IF SOMEONE CAME IN TO PUT A RACE TRACK ON THERE AND YOU DENIED IT, WHY DO YOU NEED IT,

WHAT HE WANTED FOR? >> I WISH I HAD A MAP, IT IS -- I KNOW WHERE IT IS.

>> OR A RETAIL SITE THAT IS AN IMPORTANT SITE ON THE WHOLE 30 ACRES THERE.

AND BFC'S APPROACH WAS TO MAKE IT A VIABLE RETAIL PARCEL, WE WOULD MOVE THE PONDS TO THE BACK AT THE FRONTAGE WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER, THAT IS THE PLAN.

WHETHER OR NOT A DEVELOPER WILL BE THE PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY OR THERE WILL BE ANOTHER USER UNDER THE ACTIVITY ZONE CATEGORY OF THE PLAN, WE DO NOT KNOW AT THIS POINT.

>> WHAT WAS RACETRACK DENIED, WE HAVE TO CROSS OVER TO GET GAS RIGHT THERE WHAT WAS THAT DENIED

>> I DO NOT KNOW. >> OKAY. >> I THINK THE PERSON WHO WAS

GOING TO BUILD IT PULLED OUT OF THE DEAL. >> I KNOW WE DID NOT SELL IT TO

THEM. >> I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROPERTY IS SITTING THERE

AND WILL THEY DO ANYTHING WITH IT? >> I THINK THEY HAVE SOME

DEVELOPMENT ISSUES. >> I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT BUT I THINK ME AND COMMISSIONER BOLLA WERE THE ONLY ONES ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME.

I THINK A BARBECUE RESTAURANT AND SOMETHING ELSE WAS GOING TO GO IN THAT LOCATION.

BFC WAS ALSO INTERESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND I AM NOT SURE, IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.

THEY WERE ABLE -- THEY HAD TO MOVE FORWARD. I ALWAYS THOUGHT, THE AS I COUNTY IF IT IS OVER LAND, WE ARE PAYING LIMITED MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE PONDS AND IF IT

GETS OLD, WE GET NOTHING OUT OF THE DEAL. >> ORIGINALLY, WE WERE DOING A

FAVOR. >> THE RACETRACK WAS OFFERING 15,000.

WE WENT TO THE OTHER DEAL. I AM NOT SURE WHETHER THIS IS A BENEFICIAL MOVE FOR THE COUNTY OR NOT. THE LIKE DOCTORS CHARGED 50-$60 PER MONTH.

WE ARE GETTING $700 PER YEAR FOR A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY. I WAS UNCLEAR AS TO WHETHER THE PROPERTY WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL IN OUR HANDS OR IN SOMEONE ELSE'S.

AT THE TIME THE BOARD DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS DEAL, WITH A DIFFERENT CUSTOMER FROM BFC WHO WOULD BE PUTTING IN A GROCERY STORE THAT FELL THROUGH AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.

>> JUST LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GENERATE TAX REVENUE, SOMETHING WE DIDN'T HAVE.

THAT WAS THE COUNTY'S PUSH, DO WE WANT TO TAKE IT BACK AND MAINTAIN IT, WHAT IS THE FUTURE?

WE HAVE MORE PROPERTY THAN WE KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH. >> IT IS A TWO-YEAR CLAUSE.

>> DO WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THE CONTRACT IS THERE ANY TIME PRESSURE TO GET THIS DONE

TODAY? >> WE CAN WORK ON LANGUAGE AND BRING IT BACK.

>> PUT SOMETHING INILL MAINTAIN, AND THEN WE ARE COOL. I THINK.

>> I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. BFC WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH

THAT KNOWING WITH THE TO DO OR NOT DO. >> THAT IS FINE.

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>> THEN WE CAN TALK AGAIN. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS.

>> LET'S JUST GIVE STAFF DIRECTION. IF EVERYONE IS ON BOARD, JUST

[14.  Lien Reduction]

[15.  Lien Reduction]

>> NUMBER 14, LIEN REDUCTION. HERE IS THE QUEEN OF LIEN REDUCTION.

>> BOOK QUEEN OF LIEN REDUCTIONS. THAT IS A NEW ONE.

BY THE WAY THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, THE ATLANTA BRAVES WERE IN A GAME.

BUT THEY BROUGHT IT HOME. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. SO, I ACTUALLY HAVE ITEMS 14 AND 15 WHICH I KNOW WE HAVE TO VOTE ON SEPARATELY BUT I WILL TALK ABOUT THEM TOGETHER.

BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME PROPERTY FOR TWO DIFFERENT CASES.

ESSENTIALLY, MR. ROBERT ROSE IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND HE IS HERE TONIGHT.

I THINK HE IS HERE WITH MS. VANESSA. SO IS HIS CARETAKER/ROOMMATE.

THEY ARE HERE. I WILL JUST TELL YOU A STORY. THEY REACHED OUT TO US IN JANUARY ASKING ABOUT OUR AMNESTY -- AMNESTY LETTERS WE SENT OUT. THE PROGRAM CLOSE AND WE SAID YOUR NEXT OPTION IS TO DO A LIEN REDUCTION APPLICATION. THEY DID THE APPLICATION FOR BOTH OF THE CASES. YOU DO HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, PART OF WHAT THEY FILLED OUT WAS THE FACT THEY HAD THE ISSUES FIXED FOR OVER TEN YEARS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS THAT ONCE THEY CLEANED IT UP THEY HAD TO LET US KNOW SO WE COULD CHECK IT OUT.

SO, ONCE THEY REALIZED THAT, THEY DID THIS APPLICATION. THE STAFF WENT OUT THERE TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THE PROPERTY WAS IN COMPLIANCE AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE HERE TODAY.

THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, YOU CAN SEE SHE RECOMMEND REDUCING THIS 20 BASED ON THE FACT OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS VALUED AT. THEY UNDERSTOOD THE PROCESS OF DID NOT RELIES HE HAD TO CALL STAFF. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME, I AM HERE AND THEY ARE HERE.

>> WHY IS IT TO CASES? >> THEY WERE FOUR DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO GREAT QUESTION. IF WE GET INFORMATION OR A COMPLAINT ABOUT A CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE IF WE HAVE IT ON THE SAME ITEM WE DON'T START A NEW CASE.

BUT IF IT'S DIFFERENT WHEN WE START A NEW CASE. >> ARE WE INCLINED TO BELIEVE IT

WAS CLEANED UP? >> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS CLEANED UP TODAY.

>> WHILE HE IS HERE WE CAN ASK HIM. >> MR. ROSE, COME ON DOWN AND

TALK WITH US. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

>> 4332 CRINKLES. CRINKLED. >> YOU SAID YOU CLEANED IT UP

TEN YEARS AGO? >> WHAT WAS WRONG WITH IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

TANGIBLES GARBAGE AND A FEW THINGS LIKE THAT I GOT RID OF IT ALL.

>> YOU DID THAT YOURSELF? SANCHEZ. POLE AND STRUCTURE WITH MISSING WINDOWS, DID YOU -- I PUT A NEW POLL UP I DID ALL OF THAT AND I PUT THE POWER BACK UP.

WHEN IT WAS ALL FIXED EVERYTHING WAS DONE. >> WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR POLE

WAS NOT A STORM? >> IT JUST GOT ROTTEN AND FELL OVER.

>> I HAD TO GO GET A NEW WON AND FIX IT BACK UP. >> OKAY.

>> I AM JUST CURIOUS WHEN YOU'RE POLE FALLS OVER LIKE THAT DO THEY CUT OFF YOUR POWER?

>> I WAS WITHOUT POWER FOR FOUR MONTHS. >> I HAVE IT ALL FIXED NOW.

>> OKAY. >> HELP US WITH THE EXPLANATION. >> SHE HAD MORE DETAILS.

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>> >> COME CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE.

>> THE NEXT DAY THEY TURNED IT ON. >> SO THEY JUST HAD OUT THE ONE

DAY BUT YOU HAD TO GET IT FIXED. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER, DO YOU LIVE ON

THE PROPERTY NOW? >> I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 35 YEARS.

>> I AM QUESTIONING, WE SEND OUT NOTICES AND YOU ARE IN VIOLATION.

>> I'M NOT -- >> ANY DISCUSSION. >> THE SECOND ONE IS.

>> >> >> WE WANT TO DO THAT IN JUNE OR

JULY,. >> THIS ADDS UP TO SOME REAL MONEY.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> THANK YOU.

[16.  Foreclosure extension approval]

AFTER SOME DISCUSSIONS, WE KNOW THEY GOT TO DEMO THE HOUSE ON SITE.

AND SOME LANDSCAPE TYPE WORK AS WELL. SHE IS HERE TONIGHT.

YOU CAN SEE THE LETTER AND THE PACKET. IT WILL TAKE MORE MONEY THAT THEY CAN DO THEY ARE NOW ASKING FOR A SIX-MONTH EXTENSION. SHE'S HERE TONIGHT AND IF YOU

HAVE QUESTIONS LET US KNOW. >> DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT?

>> I DO NOT RIGHT NOW. >> WHY DON'T YOU COME UP TO THE MICROHONE AND THANK YOU FOR

BEING SO PATIENT. >> SO, WHO IS LIVING IN THE HOUSE.

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>> NOLAN PRIOR SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME SOMEONE LIVED THERE. >> PROBABLY BEFORE 2015.

IT WAS MY FATHER'S PROPERTY, AND AT THAT TIME WE WERE TRANSITIONING INTO A NURSING HOME DUE TO HEALTH. ONCE HE VACATED, WE HAD HIM IN A NURSING HOME, WE WOULD GO CHECK

ON THE PROPERTY BUT NO ONE ACTUALLY LIVED IN IT. >> OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS VERSUS WHAT

IT WOULD COST YOU TO CLEAN OUT. >> THE QUOTE WE GOT WAS TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY AND COMPLETELY DEMO THE HOUSE WAS 24,000. SPEAKING WITH A REALTOR, THEY GAVE ME SOME COMPARABLE PRICES

OF 75 POWERFUL -- 75-$100,000. >> THOUGH IT IS WORTH IT TO YOU TO CLEAN IT UP?

>> INDEPENDENCE. YES AND NO. WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CLEAN IT UP HERE WE COULD SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BUT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CLEAN IT UP THAT

THOROUGHLY. >> LET ME ASK THE ATTORNEY A QUESTION.

HOW DOES THE FORECLOSING WORK. WE FORECLOSE AND THEN, DO WE RETURN THE REMAINDER OF THE

MONEY TO THE ORIGINAL OWNER AFTER THE LIENS ARE SATISFIED? >> IF THERE WERE EIGHT SURPLUS AFTER THE FORECLOSURE SALE, DEPENDING ON WHAT OTHER CLAIMS THEY COULD MAKE A CLAIM FOR THAT. THAT WOULD BE DONE THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

>> YOU MAY BE BETTER OFF LETTING US FORECLOSE THE PLACE AND TAKE WHAT IS LEFT.

WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY MONEY. >> IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE SOMEONE INTERESTED WITHOUT

IT BEING CLEANED UP. >> CORRECT. BEFORE WE RECEIVE THE NOTICE WE SPOKE TO A LADY THAT WAS INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY AND THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER WE RECEIVED A NOTICE AND SHE STILL UNDERSTOOD BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON

WITH THE LOAN SO WE PUT THAT ON HOLD UNTIL WE GET IT SETTLED. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, WE GO THROUGH FORECLOSURE WE FORECLOSE ON THE PROPERTY DON'T WE HAVE TO TAKE

THE STEPS TO CLEAN THE PROPERTY UP AS THE NEW OWNER? >> OR QUICKLY SELL IT AS IS.

>> IF WE EXTEND THE FORECLOSURE, THE LIEN DOES NOT GO AWAY, SO SHE HAS A BUYER FOR IT AS IS, AND THAT CLOSING, SHE COULD THEN SATISFIED THE LIEN AND WE CAN ALL JUST MOVE ON AND THE NEW

BUYER CAN TAKE ON THE 24,000-DOLLAR COST. >> AND THE BUYER COULD GO

THROUGH OUR OTHER LIEN REDUCTION PROCESS. >> HOW MUCH IS THE LIEN?

>> AS OF TODAY $112,000. >> SHE WILL NOT MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO SATISFY THE LIEN.

>> SO IF WE PASS THIS, IF YOU PASS IT FOR SIX MONTHS IT WOULD GIVE THEM LIBERTY TO LOOK AT A

FEW THINGS. >> SOMEBODY WILL COME BACK AT US FOR ABOUT LIEN REDUCTION.

>> BE IT HER OR A PROSPECTIVE BUYER. >> AT THE END OF THE DAY THE INTENTION IS TO GET THE PROPERTY CLEANED OUT. THIS IS A NICE STREET AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR A WHILE. BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING IF YOU GUYS WERE CHECKING ON THE HOUSE, I SYMPATHIZE YOUR FATHER IN A NURSING HOME.

YOU ARE DEALING WITH EMOTIONAL ISSUES AND HAVING TO LET GO OF THAT RELATIONSHIP AND I CANNOT IMAGINE WHAT THAT FEELS LIKE BUT IF SOMEONE WAS CHECKING ON IT YOU WOULD HOPE IT WOULD NOT BE IN SUCH DISRESPECT OR BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WASN'T IN GREAT SHAPE WHEN HE WAS LIVING THERE.

>> NO, THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT IN 1974. IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST HOUSES ON THAT STREET AND MIGHT THAT WAS EIGHT DY I PERSON. AND I THINK YOU COULD BUILD IT UP SO MUCH AND HE WAS GOING TO FINISH THE REST AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN BUT, HE HAD BEEN THERE EVER SINCE AND THAT IS WHERE WE GREW UP, OUR HANDPRINTS ARE WHERE THEY PAVED THE ROAD.

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>> WHO LIVES NEXT DOOR? >> MY SISTER LIVES NEXT DOOR. >> THERE IS SOMEONE THERE.

>> AT THE TIME SHE WAS THERE BUT NOT REGULARLY BECAUSE SHE WAS HAVING HER HOUSE FIXED UP.

>> MAYBE I AM MIXING THIS CASE WITH ANOTHER ONE PUT WHEN WERE YOU APPRISED OF THE SITUATION QUICKSAND WHEN DID I BECOME AWARE OF IT? OCTOBER 11TH WHEN WE RECEIVE

THE LETTER. >> JUST THIS OCTOBER. >> THE BROTHER SAID HE DID NOT

RECEIVE THE LETTERS. >> GLENN COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.

HE IS WATCHING LIVE FROM TENNESSEE. >> WILL WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TODAY. I MOVE APPROVAL TO EXTENDED TO ALLOW AND HOPEFULLY SELL IT

WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIMEFRAME. >> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPALS? IT CARRIES 5-0.

MISS STEWART YOU CAN FIND ANOTHER ONE TO PURSUE. >> HAVE A HAVE A LIST.

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT THE PROPERTIES CLEANED UP. >> CAN I TAKE 2 MINUTES.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY, ONE OF THE TOPICS YOU DISCUSSED IS WHAT DOES THE DISTRICT LIST LOOK LIKE AND WHAT PROPERTIES CAN WE FORECLOSE. WHEN WE DISCUSSED THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO AND TODAY WE STARTED MEETING WITH SOME OF YOU GUYS AND PRESENTED WITH YOU A LIST. BUT ESSENTIALLY, BY TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK EACH OF YOU WILL HAVE IN YOUR HANDS YOUR DISTRICT LIST WHICH SHOWS THE HOUSES WE CAN GO AFTER FOR FORECLOSURE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. WE DO HAVE A WORKING LIST, AND IT PROBABLY, AT SOME POINT AND TIME WHEN WE GET THESE THREE UNDER OUR BELT, I WOULD SUGGEST WE DO FIVE AT A TIME AND ONE FROM EACH DISTRICT. THINK ABOUT THAT AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION

SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH. >> WHILE WE ARE ON THIS, THE LADY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW,

WHERE ARE WE AS FAR AS CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WHAT DO WE NEED? >> WE GOOD.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE SPOKEN ABOUT, THE FLORIDA STATUTES NOW SAY ALL CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE'S NAME ON THEM. WE CANNOT DO ANONYMOUS.

MIGHT STAFF DOES OF GREAT JOB KEEPING UP WITH THE CASES. TO BE HONEST WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE STAFF AT THIS POINT. WE WANT GOOD USE OF THE COUNTY MONEY AND I THINK THEY ARE A GREAT USE. I THINK THEY ARE THRIFTY, OCD, CALLED THEM WHAT YOU WANT BUT THEY ARE GOOD AT DOING THEIR JOB. WE ARE DOWN ONE STAFF MEMBER NOW BECAUSE WE DID HAVE ONE MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTY OFFICE WHICH IS FINE.

IN THE PROCESS OF INTERVIEWING FOR THAT WE DID ONE INTERVIEW TODAY AND WE WILL HAVE ONE MORE TOMORROW. WE WILL BE BACK UP TO FULL STAFF.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON, WE ARE WORKING TO CHANGE THE CODE THAT WE GO BY.

RIGHT NOW WE GO BY THE STANDARD HOUSING CODE. ONCE WE GET THE LATEST AND GREATEST COLD, I WON'T BE ABLE TO QUOTE YOU WHAT IT IS CALLED POPE ONCE WE GET THAT WHICH SHOULD BE OUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU TO CHANGE THE CODE BECAUSE THE STANDARD HOUSING CODE IS DATED AND THIS ONE WILL BE FRESH AND WILL HELP US AS SOON AS WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN WE CAN DO MORE WORK ON THAT. BUT, REMEMBER IN SPEAKING WITH ONE OF YOU GUYS TODAY, AND SHOWING YOU THE LIST, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THE CASES ON THE LIST BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER DEPENDING ON WHICH COUNTY AUDITOR YOU HAVE GOTTEN INFORMATION FROM WE CLOSE 90% OF THE CASES WITHIN SIX MONTHS. ON AN AVERAGE BASIS WE WILL OPEN

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>> LET'S TALK ABOUT PROACTIVELY FINDING ISSUES TO GO AFTER. WE HAVE THIS COLLEGE AVENUE INITIATIVE. WHAT WOULD PREVENT THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER FROM GOING ALONG WITH ONE OF YOUR INSPECTORS AND LOOKING AT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE FIXED IN SIGNING

THE COMPLAINT? >> NOTHING. YOU GUYS CAN TURN THEM INTO ME

ON A DAILY BASIS. >> NOT THAT IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BUT WHEN I GET A CALL FROM A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION SAYING I HAVE A PROBLEM I WOULD USUALLY LOOK AT IT AND SIGN A COMPLAINT OR CALL IT IN. OR I WOULD TRY TO GET THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO SIGN IT OFF. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PREVENT, THE PURPOSE OF NOT HAVING ROVING INSPECTORS IS OBVIOUS. THE OTHER ISSUE IS, SOMETIMES IN THE OLD DAYS THIS USED TO TURN INTO THE HATFIELDS AND THE MCCOYS. ONE WOULD WRITE AGAINST THE OTHER AND WE WOULD WRITE THESE WITHOUT VERIFYING. I THINK IF WE COME UP WITH A WAY TO PROACTIVELY LOOK AT THE STUFF WE USED TO HAVE A BIG ENOUGH OF THE STAFF, IF SOMEONE ELSE IS OUT THERE INVESTIGATING AND LOOKING AT IT QUICKLY AND DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT IT IS AN ISSUE I THINK WE COULD MAKE A LOT OF PROGRESS. DO WE HAVE SOMEONE TRAINED THAT CAN GO, BECAUSE I CAN'T LOOK AT SOMETHING AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

>> YES. >> BUT IF AN INSPECTOR SAYING THIS IS A VIOLATION OF THE CODE,

I COULD WRITE IT DOWN. >> YOU COULD USURER : POSTERIOR -- YOU COULD USE A CODE ENFORCER. THE THIRD OFFICER WHICH IS A POSITION WE ARE RETIRING DOES MORE SPECIFIC THINGS WHEN YOU TURN IN THE GAS STATIONS THAT COULD.

BUT ESSENTIALLY TONYA GEORGE DOES MOST OF THE DISTRICTS AND STACY ALSTON AND THERE IS GRAY AND THE MIDDLE. BUT I CAN GIVE YOU WHO YOUR PERSON IS.

WE CAN TAKE BOAT LIST AND YOU CAN GO DOWN THERE ONE BY ONE. >> THOSE ARE THE LISTS THAT --

I'M TALKING ABOUT NEW ONES. >> I OPERATE IN THAT SIMILAR FASHION.

IF I SEE SOMETHING, OR IF I GET A CALL FROM A RESIDENT I WILL CHECK IT OUT.

IF I THINK SOMETHING SHOULD BE LOOK AT AND IF IT IS SOMETHING THEY THINK NEEDS TO BE WRITTEN

UP I PUT MY NAME ON IT. THAT'S EASY ENOUGH. >> A WALL STREET ISSUE AS WELL.

>> WE HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED ON SOME BUSINESSES. AND FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE THE OFFICER THAT DOES MOST OF THE CASES DOES SOMETHING WE DID NOT DO UNTIL WE GOT THAT PERSON ON BOARD WHICH WE HAD NOT DONE IN A LONG TIME. WITH THE NEW OFFICER, AND SHE PROBABLY STARTED A YEAR AGO. TYPICALLY IN A SIX MONTH. SHE WILL PICK UP --

>> DO WE FIND THEM FOR THAT QUICK. >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT DOING. I WILL ALSO SAY FROM A PUBLIC WORKS PERSPECTIVE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH THE GUYS IF THERE'S A SIGN IN YOUR WAY, PICK IT UP.

I WILL WATCH HIM DO THAT. I WAS DRIVING BY AND THEY WERE PICKING UP TO MOVE AND I WATCHED HIM PICK UP SOME. I THINK WE ARE DOING BETTER AT THAT.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO BETTER. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

[17.  Road Naming - Goose Creek]

[02:55:04]

>> THANK YOU. >> ONTO NUMBER 17. ROAD NAMING IN THE GOOSE CREEK

SUBDIVISION. A MAN WITH MANY NAMES HIMSELF. >> THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT REQUEST THE COUNTY ORDINANCE SAYS A ROAD CANNOT BE NAMED AFTER A FULL PERSON YOU CAN NAME IT TROY BUT NOT TROY NAGEL. WHAT WE HAVE IS A REQUEST TO RENAME TWO ROADS THE FIRST ONE IS CAROLINA ROSE AND THE SECOND WOULD BE ( INDISCERNIBLE ) BOTH ARE 1ST AND MIDDLE NAMES NOT LAST NAMES. THE REASON THE ORDINANCES IN PLACE TO PREVENT YOU FROM NAMING A ROAD AND SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT A ROAD NAMED AFTER LATER ON.

WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS OR NOT.

>> SO, ARE WE GOING TO NAME THIS -- ARE THEY PUBLIC ROADS QUICKSAND THEY ARE PART OF THE SUBDIVISION. THERE WON'T BE ANY COST TO THE COUNTY.

IT IS JUST A WAIVER OF THE ORDINANCE AND IT HAS TO COME TO THE BOARD TO SAY YOU WILL NAME

IT AFTER THE PERSON. >> AND THEIR PAY FOR THE SIGNS QUICKSAND AND THEY WILL DO IT A SECOND TIME WHEN PEOPLE STEAL THE SIGNS TO PUT IN THEIR ROOMS QUICKSAND I DON'T KNOW IF THE SUBDIVISION IS UNDER COUNTY MAINTENANCE OR NOT, IF IT IS IT IS ONLY THE COUNTY WHO REPLACES

THE ROADSIDES. WE ADD THE ISSUE. >> A BOY STOLE IT FOR ME AS HE

TRIED TO WIN MY HEART. >> >> WE ARE NAMING AND AFTER SOMEONE SO YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR THOSE ISSUES. I CAN TELL YOU THIS IS THE FIRST

TIME I HAVE HAD TO DO THIS. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER BURKE MADE FOR APPROVAL. AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT END UP IN

COMMISSIONER CONDON'S FAMILY ROOM. >> I AM SHOCKED THEY CARED

ENOUGH TO WRITE A LETTER BUT NOT SURE WHAT. >> IF THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS SUCH A BIG DEAL, WHO KNOWS. ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED IT CARRIES 5-0. OUR APOLOGIES TO THE TOWN OF OKLAHOMA.

>> I DID NOT TAKE IT BUT IT WAS BLUE, IF THAT MATTERS. I THINK IT DOES.

[18.  Agreement with Applied Research Associates Regarding the Clay County Pavement Assessment Project (K. Smith)]

>> NUMBER 18. AGREEMENT WITH APPLIED RESEARCH ASSOCIATES REGARDING THE CLAY

COUNTY PAVEMENT ASSESSMENT PROJECT. >> GOOD EVENING TO RESORT GARDNER DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. AN EXCITING DAY FOR US.

KAREN ASKED ME TOO TAKE THIS ONE BUT SHE IS HERE TO HELP IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.

THIS IS AN AGREEMENT WITH THE APPLIED RESEARCH ASSOCIATES. WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE PLIGHT RESEARCH ASSOCIATES REGARDING DUCK LAKE COUNTY ASSESSMENT PROJECT IN THE LUMP SUM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $189,000. THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT IS ONE YEAR BUT WE EXPECT THE REPORT TO BE AVAILABLE FEBRUARY OR MARCH START IS WHAT YOU SEE THE DATE OF APRIL 1, 2022. PHASE WON OF THIS WILL PROVIDE DATA FOR AN OBJECTIVE FOR DETERMINING MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS. THEN WHEN WE MOVE INTO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IT WILL PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THE PERFORMANCE AS WELL AS THE ABILITY TO PALLIATE

[03:00:08]

THE MANAGEMENT PLAN WILL ALSO ALLOW US FOR CONTINUOUS MONITORING WILL HELP US ESTABLISH A RATE OF DETERIORATION. PRIOR WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE PREVIOUS THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT SAMPLING UNITS AND THAT IS DRIVEN BY A 95% CONFIDENCE. AS YOU SEE IN THE PACKET THEY WILL FOLLOW THE STANDARDS USED AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND THE DISTRESS RATINGS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR FOR US TO USE WITH A REPORT TO THE BOARD IN LATE FEBRUARY OR MARCH.

THE INFORMATION WILL CONTAIN INFORMATION ON DISTRESS, ALLIGATOR CRACKING, ALL TYPES OF CHARACTERISTICS RELATED TO PAVEMENT. WE WILL SURVEY THE GOOD AS WELL AS THE BAD ON ALL PAVED ROADS. THIS WILL BE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO MAKE DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS INTO THE SIDE OUR BUDGETING NEEDS. THAT IS A QUICK OVERVIEW.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? >> WHO OWNS THE DATA WHEN THEY

ARE DONE? >> THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE OURS. THERE WILL BE DISCUSSIONS ON WHERE IT RESIDES IN THE CLOUD WHICH WE DEFERRED TO THE IT PEOPLE FOR GUIDANCE.

>> THAT IS A BIG NUMBER, I WAS SURPRISED. THE $109,000 I ASSUME IT'S THE

BULK IS COLLECTING THE DATA. >> ABRUPTLY COMES OUT TO $157 PER MILE.

THE PROPOSAL SHOWS FOR 850 MILES WHICH WAS HIGHER THAN THE MILEAGE WE HAD AT THE TIME WE PUT THE REQUEST OUT BUT WE WANTED TO BE CONSERVATIVE SO WE COULD TAKE IN ANY ADDITIONAL ROADS. AS YOU KNOW MOST OF THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS DO NOT BECOME ROADWAYS. ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE CAUSES RELATED RELATED TO THE INITIAL DATA GATHERING. AND THEN, A QUARTER OF THE COST WILL BE TO MOVE INTO THE MANAGEMENT PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL DECIDE IS DO WE CONTINUE A PARTNERSHIP OR DO WE BRING THE PROJECT AND HOUSE AND RELY ON THEM IN THE FUTURE FOR UPGRADES.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING IT IN-HOUSE IF WE CHOOSE. >> THAT WOULD BE A STAFFING DECISION NEXT YEAR, AS WE SEE WHERE THE TEAM SITS IN TERMS OF STAFFING.

AND THEN AS WE GO IN THE FUTURE MY GOAL WOULD BE TO BUILD THAT EXPERTISE INTERNALLY.

NOT ONLY IS IT THE DATA WE ARE GETTING BUT THE MEDIAL ACTIONS. THE GOAL IS TO DEVELOP IT IN-HOUSE WHERE WE CAN RELY ON OUR OWN FOLKS TO MAKE THE DECISIONS.

I THINK IF IT PROVIDES CONSISTENCY WE WILL DECIDE WHAT OUR FREQUENCY IS IN TERMS OF KEEPING THIS. THIS REALLY SHOULD NOT BE ONE AND DONE.

IT WILL ESTABLISH A GREAT FOUNDATION BUT WE NEED TO MAKE A SMART DECISION ON HOW OFTEN WE MAINTAIN IT. ONE OF THE REASONS WE PICKED IT IS, THEY TOOK CARE OF THE ROADWAYS FOR YEARS. THEY ARE ALREADY SAMPLING ROLES FOR APP..

THEY HAVE BEEN IN OUR COUNTY. THEY KNOW WHAT F.IS DOING. WE WILL ALSO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE

THE RESOURCE AS WE MOVE INTO MANAGEMENT. >> AS FAR AS THE ONGOING

MAINTENANCE, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? >> WORKED WITH TROY FOR THE MICRO PAVER. IT IS A PRETTY STANDARD FORMAT. IN OUR INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WE HAD A CALL WITH THE FIRM. WE TOLD THEM, WE DO NOT WANT SOMETHING CRAZY, WE JUST WANT THE DATA. WE JUST PICKED THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD AND THE SOFTWARE THAT WILL NOT COST YOU MONEY. IT IS CLOUD -BASED SO WE DON'T HAVE THE DATA STORAGE NEED NOT

[03:05:02]

I'VE WORKED WITH PROGRAM AND THE ONES WE USE AT THE STATE LEVEL AND IT IS EXPENSIVE.

EVERY YEAR YOU HAVE TO TRAVEL SOMEWHERE AND LEARN THE UPGRADES.

IT IS A BUSINESS. BUT THIS FITS OUR NEEDS AND IT WILL ALLOW US TO MAKE THE DECISIONS BECAUSE THAT IS BEEN A STRUGGLE FOR ME. THIS IS UNBIASED TOO.

IT WILL HAVE A LOT OF THE BELLS AND WHISTLES YOU CAN PULL UP PICTURES.

IT WILL BE A NICE RESOURCE FOR US. FROM WHAT THEY SHOWED US VERY EASY TO USE BECAUSE I CAN USE A COMPUTER BUT WHEN IT GETS INTERESTING IT BECOMES A

CHALLENGE. >> WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE DATA STAYING FRESH.

MAYBE WE COULD SKIP A YEAR. WHAT IS THE PROGRESSION? >> I THINK THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS WILL COME IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY. IT IS A 0-100 RATING SYSTEM.

TYPICALLY YOU ARE LOOKING AT 70- ABOVE. OUR GOAL WOULD BE 70 OR ABOVE.

THIS WILL DRIVE A LOT OF OUR DECISIONS. IT WILL ALSO DRIVE THE FREQUENCY. UNTIL WE START TO FIX THEM THERE'S NO SENSE WRITING THEM.

THE KEY WILL BE IS IF THEY ARE SO BAD THEY ARE IN A REHABILITATION PHASE INSTEAD OF

RESURFACING. >> DO THEY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TYPE OF ROAD

AS OPPOSED TO A CUL-DE-SAC? >> THAT GOES INTO THE SECOND PHASE.

THIS GIVES YOU A NUMBER. IT GIVES YOU A DISTRESS NUMBER. AS YOU TAKE THAT YOU MOVE INTO A MANAGEMENT PLAN. ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MAY FIND IS FRICTION.

THERE'S THE NEXT STEP THAT GOES INTO THE PLAN. THE PLAN WE WOULD DEEP UP EACH YEAR. THERE'S ALSO ASSUMPTIONS IN TERMS OF DETERIORATION.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT EVERY YEAR, BUT EVERY SO OFTEN THEY MAY LOOK AT THAT.

>> ELDERLY DO THAT. THE PAST WEEK OR SO THERE WERE -- THIS IS THE OLDEST WAY YOU TAKE JANE UP -- DATA. WE DO HAVE TRAFFIC DATA BUT I WOULD IMAGINE AS WE GET THIS INFORMATION THERE WILL BE MORE DATA WE WANT TO GET. THIS WILL HELP YOU MAKE

DECISIONS AND WHAT GOES INTO YOUR PROGRAM. >> THE AGREEMENT CALLS FOR A SURVEY BUT THE ATTACHMENT CALLS FOR. AS PART OF THE COST I WOULD EXPECT, I CHECKED IT A FEW WEEKS AGO. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHEN THE

ROADS COME INTO PLAY THAT IS WHEN WE WOULD GO UP IN MILEAGE. >> I WOULD HOPE THOSE ARE IN

GOOD SHAPE. >> THIS IS A PLAN. IM HOPING AS WE GO DOWN THE ROAD

[03:10:08]

THIS HAS TO BECOME PART OF OUR ULTIMATE PROGRAM. >> HERE IS THE DATA.

WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. WHAT WE HAVE HAD HAS BEEN SUBJECTIVE.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS FOR YOU TO COUNT VOLUME. I GOT A CALL YESTERDAY FROM A WOMAN WHO SAID 1,000 CARS USER ROAD AS A CUT THROUGH. SHE SAID USE THIS AS A CUT THROUGH FROM STATE ROAD 21, INSTEAD OF GOING UP TO COUNTY ROAD 352.

THE ROAD IS BAD ENOUGH AND NOW YOU CAN ONLY HAVE CARGO ONE WAY. IT IS IN BAD SHAPE.

IT SOUNDS HUMOROUS, YOU TRY LIVING IN THIS. I UNDERSTAND WHY.

IF YOU GO UP THEY HAVE A LOT OF SNAKES AND THEY HAVE TO GET RID OF THAT.

>> THEY HAD IT BEFORE AND IT WAS SO BAD THEY CLOSED THE BOOK. I THINK WE WILL FIND --

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE. FOR ME THIS GIVES US A DATA DRIVEN DECISION. OF THE DID IT THE WAY THEY DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

IT WAS A NICE CHANGE TO GO TO AN AUTOMATED DATA COLLECTION. IT ALSO ALLOWED US TO MAKE LESS POLITICAL DECISIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE STORY IT WILL PREVENT -- PRESENT AND SAYING IT WILL GIVE US A DECISION ON WHAT WE TRULY NEED. THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. IF IT IS A TEN YEAR, 12 YEAR PLAN.

WHATEVER DATA WE CAP WILL HELP US DECIDE. I THINK IT WILL BE IMPORTANT, NOT ONLY IS IT IMPORTANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES BUT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING DOING WE NEED TO DO

PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. >> HOW SOON DO WE GET REAL DATA. >> THERE IS A SCHEDULE THAT FALLS UNDER THE SURVEYS OF THE ROAD. WE WILL HAVE, AND WE WILL BE IN

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ARGUE AND FEEL COMFORTABLE. >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION NANOSECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED TO CARRIES. >> THIS IS NUMBER 18 AGREEMENT

[19.  Approval of Advance Payment for the Purchase of Two Ambulances (K. Smith)]

THIS IS APPROVAL FOR VANCE PAYMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF TWO AMBULANCES.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I AM PREPARED I HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WITH THE SALES RESIDENT. THESE WERE BUILT AS ORDERED. IT WILL BE 2022 ON EITHER ONE.

SO,. >> I WANTED TO BE SURE WE WERE NOT BUYING SOMETHING LEFT OVER

ON THEIR LOT. >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND SOMETHING I'VE MISSED BEFORE.

>> THEY ARE BUILT TO ORDER SO THEY WILL BE BRAND-NEW. THEY DO NOT HAVE SURPLUS.

THAT IS WHY I SAID IT COULD EVEN BE A CHASITY BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THIS.

WE ARE LOOKING UP PREVIOUS REQUESTS. WE ARE SOMETIMES 18-24 MONTH BUILDUP. THIS IS BECAUSE OF INFRASTRUCTURE DELAYS.

I WILL TAKE DELIVERY ON THIS. IT CAN BE UP TO 18 MONTHS. DEPENDING ON GENERAL MOTORS AND HOW SOON THEY PRODUCE IT. THAT IS A 1% RETURN ON THE MONEY.

BUT IF WE DON'T GET IN LINE. WHAT ARE WE MAKING IN THE FUNDS. >> IF WE DON'T GET IN LINE WE

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>> IT IS PROPERLY SHIPPED FROM CHINA. >> ME TOO HAVE A MOTION

NANOSECOND. >> I WAS THINKING HE WOULD JUMP IN AND SECOND.

THIS WAS AFTER THE MOTION. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED TO CARRIES 5-0. WE CONTINUE TO MOVE THROUGH THE AGENDA.

[CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS]

I WILL YOU HAVE FORECLOSURE RATES AND WHAT YOU SAW WITH THE MORATORIUM AND THEY STARTED THOSE BACKUP. I KNOW THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE MONEY IS GOING TO EXPIRE AND WE

HAVE NOT COME CLOSE TO USING IT. >> WE HAVE FOUR YEARS. THESE ARE NOT CLAY COUNTY RULES

BUT I WONDERED IF THERE WAS -- >> I DON'T HAVE NUMBERS BUT I CAN BRING YOU TRENDS TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE VOLUME IS GOING. I CAN TELL YOU THE JUDGE DOES A THOROUGH JOB EXPLAINING TO INDIVIDUALS WHO FIND THEMSELVES IN FORECLOSURE THE RESOURCES. SO WHETHER OR NOT THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I WILL PULL SOME TRENDS, WE DO HAVE FORECLOSURE SALES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY PICKED UP. >> THAT IS RENTAL ASSISTANCE MONEY. I DO GET THAT. I CAN PULL EVICTIONS AS WELL.

>> WE SENT SOMEONE OVER THERE WHEN HE'S DOING THE HEARINGS. HE GIVES THE OPTION OF TALKING TO THE STAFF BEFORE THEY GET EVICTED. THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND ON THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE THEY DID EXTEND, AND AS THE CHAIRMAN ALLUDED TO, PHASE TWO IS THROUGH 2024. I WILL SAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ASKING, ONE OF THE COUNTIES TO DO AN IMPROVEMENT PLAN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SEE A SPEND RATE.

WE DID SUBMIT OUR RECOMMENDATION OF HOW WE CAN IMPROVE REACHING OTHER CMMUNITIES AND CULTURAL AREAS THAT MAY NOT SPEAK ENGLIS SO THE TEAM IS WORKING ON HOW TO GET OUT THERE AND TRYING TO DIG IN DEEPER AND WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES TO TALK ABOUT

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TO SEE THE FORECLOSURE RATES. I AM NOT SURE HOW BIG OF AN ELEPHANT WE HAVE.

IS IT DRAMATICALLY BIGGER THAN BEFORE COVID-19. >> WHICH YOU LIKE TO SEE

EVICTIONS OR BOTH. >> THEN WE CAN SEE IF THERE IS AN INCREASE DUE TO COVID-19 HER AT SOME POINT, THIS THING SHOULD NORMALIZE ITSELF AND WE ARE TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT MAY

OR MAY NOT BE A PROBLEM. >> ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, THE FEDS >> THE OTHER PIECES, CLAY COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH AVAILABLE RENTAL UNITS. THE FACT THAT WE ARE IN A DEFICIT IS THE REASON PEOPLE CAN CHARGE WHAT THEY ARE CHARGING AND IF EVERYONE IS PAIN AND NO ONE IS LEAVING, WE HAVE THE STABILIZATION PROGRAM WE ARE PUTTING THEM IN HOTELS AND THEN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. IT IS A MULTITUDE OF PROBLEMS AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE TALKING TO PARTNERS TO SAY WE HAVE IDEAS, CAN SOMEONE HELP US WITH THE IDEAS WE HAVE LOCALLY.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE CLERK AND CONTROLLER CRACKS. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU 213. YOU YOU ARE LOOKING SHARP TODAY. COMMISSIONER OR AUDITOR ANYTHING TODAY, COUNTY MANAGER. WE HAD BITS THAT WENT OUT TO TWO COMPANIES THAT CAME OUT.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

I DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT WHICH EQUATED TO, THEY CAME AT 3 MILLION. THE BID WAS 4 MILLION WITH THAT CREEP AND COST WITH MATERIAL AND LABORS IT WAS PUSHING THEIR BID TO JUST OVER $4.4 MILLION. WHATEVER I'M BRINGING TO THE BOARD TODAY, I WOULD LIKE TO REBID OUT AND I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT THE ONLY CONSTRAINT, THE ONLY ITEM SHE BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION WAS WHAT SHE SAID IN HER BUDGET WERE THE MATERIALS TO ST WILL WORK TOGETHER ON ADJUSTING THIS OR SEE IF SHE BUYS IT WITHIN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. I BELIEVE THE DATE WAS 278 DAYS TO BUILD OUT, IT WOULD PUSH US

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THAT WAS A BIT MUCH. I WOULD LIKE TO REBID THAT. I WANT TO REJECT BOTH THE BIDS

AND MOVE FORWARD. >> THE NEXT ONE. WE HAD A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC, WE HAD A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY WORKSHOP. AND ALSO WORKING ON MAKING THE SUBMISSIONS IN THE SYSTEM TO PUT THOSE IN, WE WILL BRING THAT TO THE BOARD.

I WILL ADD, I KNOW THE CHAIRMAN SENT AND E-MAIL OUT TO SEE IF WE COULD ADD AN ITEM TO THE CARD BASED ON THE TDC FUNDS AND NOW THE LEGISLATIVE BILLS ARE BEING DISCUSSED.

IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER IDEAS OR ITEMS PUT ON LET US KNOW AND WE WILL PUT THAT THROUGH.

>> THE LAST I HAD ATTENDED A WORKSHOP PUT ON BY THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT CALLED

THE CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION WORKSHOP. >> THIS COULD ASSIST THE STUDENTS AND KEEP THEM HERE WITHIN THE BUSINESSES. SO MORE TO FOLLOW ON THAT.

PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY

[LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATION]

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

THE BOARD WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. >> I WILL START WITH COMING TO THE BOARD TODAY, I NEED, MY DISTRICT NEEDS SOMETHING, WE NEED HELP.

THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND UNDER REVIEW. MEANWHILE WE HAVE TWO MAJOR ROADS WHERE EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET OUT OF THE AREA. TWO MAIN ROADS IN THE BOND TRANSPORTATION. THIS IN TURN THREATENS THE SAFETY OF THE MASTER-PLANNED AREA. THE PROGRAM ADDRESSES SOME ISSUES BY ENHANCING ROADWAYS TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW AND THEY ARE TO BE COMPLETED BY THEN WE HAVE THE FIRST CONNECTOR.

I'M ASKING THE BOARD TO PROPOSED INCREASES THE MASTER-PLANNEDELY- AREAS.

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THIS IN MY OPINION, I AM ASKED OVER -- WHY WE ALLOW THIS. WHY DO WE ALLOW THE HOMES TO COME IN AND THE TREES TO BE TORN DOWN. IT HAS HAPPENED WITHIN THE PAST YEAR AND THE PEOPLE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS WAS APPROVED YEARS AGO BUT IT DOES NOT MATTER. PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED AND THE DEPUTIES DO NOT HAVE ROOM TO PULL OVER CITIZENS BREAKING THE LAW AND CAUSING ACCIDENTS. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. THIS IS WHERE THE ROAD HAVE TO BE COMPLETED.

THE PEOPLE AND NOW WE ARE FACED WITH A MAJOR PROBLEM FOR OUR CITIZENS.

I AM ASKING THE BOARD TO IMPOSE THIS A MORATORIUM. >> THEY ARE VESTED SO WE HAVE THOSE APPROVED AND FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY COURTNEY THEY WON'T BE AFFECTED.

>> I KNOW WHEN WE WERE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD WE ASKED FOR AND A MORATORIUM.

I THINK IT CAN BE DONE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

I THINK GROWTH IS OUT OF CONTROL. WE HAVE NOT COME UP WITH A MECHANISM TO SLOW IT DOWN I HAVE SUPPORTED THESE TO SLOW IT DOWN. THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMPONENT OF THE IMPACT THESE. IT DOES NOT SEEM TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I LIKE SEEING TREES AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY LEFT. WHAT IMPACT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE COMING. I KNOW A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE APPROVED IN 25. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE.

I KNOW THEY HAVE THE BONING AND THEY ARE APPROVED. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LAND IS LEFT. I WILL TAKE A STAND AND SAY THEY ARE COMING WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT AND WE ARE READY. WE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER AS FAR AS THAT.

I DO HEAR RUMORS OF OTHER PROPERTIES OF BEING BOUGHT. JUST HAVING ANOTHER PROPERTY I CAN IMAGINE. WHERE WILL THEY GO. WHAT ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE DID NOT MAKE A DECISION ON THE ZONING.

THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, ARE THOSE STILL ON THE TABLE. WITH THOSE SLOW DOWN AS WELL.

IF THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A RESIDENTIAL DENSITY, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO THE PROBLEM IS

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BUSINESSES DO NOT ACCEPT ANY FURTHER APPLICATIONS. WHAT IS IN PROGRESS.

HOW MUCH IS IN PROGRESS? THAT HAS NOT BEEN GRANTED. PART OF IT IS COMING UP.

YOU HAVE SARATOGA SPRINGS YOU SENT ME A LIST OF WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.

AND WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS TO COME. WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT'S LEFT.

SO THIS COULD MAKE AN IMPACT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA IN A POSITIVE WAY.

>> IT COULD DEFINITELY HELP TO STAGNATE THE QUICKNESS THAT IT IS HAPPENING.

I THINK THE POINT IS TO ALLOW THE ROADS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE BUILT.

I DON'T THINK WHOEVER WAS ON THE STAFF, I DON'T THINK ANYONE ENVISIONED, WE PROBABLY DID NOT ENVISION TEN YEARS AGO, BUT GROWTH WOULD COME TO VISIT SUCH A RAPID STAGE.

EVERY DAY WE ARE CRAMMED WITH STUFF WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF. LAKE AS BARRY IS A BIG PART OF IT. THEY CAME IN LIKE GANGBUSTERS. I DON'T THINK ANYONE ANTICIPATED THE SUCCESSION OF PROPERTIES COMING IN AT THAT RATE. I DO A LOT OF SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS. I DID WANT LAST NIGHT. TO BE HONEST THAT IS THE NUMBER

ONE COMPLAINT, WHY DIDN'T ANYONE PLAN FOR THIS. >> AND, I THINK THIS WITHIN THE 5:00 O'CLOCK HOUR WORKDAY TALK ABOUT, IT'S ON AT THE GYM. THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH AND TALKING ABOUT THE TREES THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO LAY WATER AND SEWER LINES.

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PROTECTING THE OAK TREES AND THEY USED ALACHUA COUNTY AS AN EXAMPLE. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS TO PROTECT THE TREES SO YOU DON'T

GET THE CLEAR-CUT LAND. IT MAY HELP A LITTLE BIT. >> WHAT WE HAVE IN THE COLD, PROPERTY OWNERS CAN GET POINTS TO KEEPING THE BIG TREES. MOST OF THEM IF THEY ARE NOT FROM HERE THEY WILL NOT CARE. THEY WILL CHOP EVERYTHING DOWN AND COME IN AND PLANT THE TREES.

>> WE DO HAVE THEM REQUIRED. THEY TO HAVE TO PUT STUFF IN THERE.

BUT THE GUY SAID, THEY PUT IN TREES AND THEN THEY START TO DIE.

IN SOME AREAS THEY DO. WE CAN DEFINITELY WHY WHICH YOU THINK ABOUT SLOWING THIS DOWN.

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VACATION. >> YOU CAN'T PAUSE WITHOUT CAN WE PAUSE TO HAVE A WE SPOKE TO TAFT STAFF BUT THIS IS THE FIRST WE HEAR OF THIS. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE.

SO WE NEED TO IMMEDIATELY SCHEDULE THIS. >> I WOULD ASK FOR YOU TO GO OUT

THERE AND DRIVE THE ROADS TO SEE. >> WE SHOULD MAKE A MOTION RIGHT

NOW. >> WHAT IS THE MOTION. >> A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF TO PAUSE ACCEPTING ANY APPLICATIONS WHETHER LAND-USE OR REZONING AND INCREASING THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PREPARING A MORATORIUM AFTER THE WORKSHOP.

>> WHAT IS THE PROCESS, YOU CANNOT TELL US. >> I HAVE ALREADY APPLIED.

THIS WOULD NOT AFFECTED. >> I THINK YOU LTD TO THE MASTER-PLANNED PROPERTIES.

AND TRYING TO UPPING THE AMOUNT OF TREES THEY PUT IN AND GOING AWAY FROM THE 40-FOOT LOTS.

YOUR DENSITY CANNOT BE MET ANYWHERE I'M SHOCKED THAT WE HAVE NOT GONE TO A POINT WHERE WE ADOPTED THAT. ONE WAY IS TO SAY YOU CAN ONLY BUILD CERTAIN SIZE HOUSES.

I AM A PROPONENT OF BUILDING APARTMENT BUILDINGS. THAT IS A DIFFERENT THING.

DENSITY, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE IT BUILT RIGHT IT IS OKAY. OUR PROBLEM IS WE ARE SPREAD EVERYWHERE. THE ONLY THING WE THINK ABOUT IS A ONE-STORY HOUSE.

IF WE GO IN THE AIR AND SAY THIS IS DOWNTOWN ORANGE PARK, WE CAN PUT IT INTO A PLACE THE LAST

MEETING, I WAS IN FAVOR OF IT. >> BUILDERS WILL COME IN AND BUILD REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO.

IF IT IS NOT MORE OF A GLOBAL LOOK YOU WON'T GET THE EFFECT YOU WANT BECAUSE THEY WILL SHIP

THEIR ATTENTION TO OTHER PROPERTIES. >> THE REASON YOU CAN'T DO IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A STUDY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS SHE HAS REASON AND IT WILL NOT.

>> THIS IS THE MOST CONGESTED. WHAT OTHER PROOF DO WE NEED. >> I AGREE.

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WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE WILL NOT SOLVE IT TONIGHT. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> WHAT DID SHE SAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE APPROVED. WE ARE ASKING THEM TO NOT ACCEPT ANY MORE IN THE LAKE AS BARRY PASTOR PLAN UNTIL WE DECIDE WHAT WE REALLY WANTED.

>> >> THE IF THEY HAVE INCREASED IT.

WHERE WE HAVE SEEN, WHERE IT IS PROPERTY LIKE A CLAMP. AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO

RESIDENTIAL, BAY IF WE HAD ANOTHER, IT WOULD BE THAT WAY. >> AT WHAT POINT, ED HAS TAUGHT ME A FEW THINGS. ONE OF THE BIGGEST DEFINITIONS THAT HE HAS TAUGHT ME IS INCOMPATIBILITY. AT WHAT POINT DOES THIS BECOME INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE COUNTY. NO ONE WHO PASSED THAT IN 1990 WOULD HAVE SAID THIS IS WHAT WE INTEND. THIS IS BASED ON WHAT IS AROUND IT.

IT IS MORE LOOKING AT CHANGING SOMETHING FROM SOMETHING THAT IS I'M TRYING TO THINK OF ANOTHER EXAMPLE BUT THEN THERE IS NO OTHER ONE AROUND. THIS MADE SENSE.

AND THE SIMPLE WAY, AND THIS IS WHAT WE TELL CITIZENS. WE TELL THEM TO LOOK AT THE COLORS ON THE MAP. TO USE THAT EXAMPLE IF THEY WANT TO SAY THIS IS GREEN.

THIS WILL TELL YOU IT WON'T BE A COMPATIBLE OPTION. OUR MAPS DESIGNATE THAT.

THIS ONE HAD THE ONLY PINK AND IT WAS GREEN AROUND IT. SO THAT WAS COMPATIBLE.

>> I DON'T MIND A CAUSE BUT I QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THESE WILL BE BUILT.

I WILL ASK BUS STAFF, THROUGH THIS WILL NOT BE COMPATIBLE THIS IS 5,000 HOMES RIGHT HERE.

IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE THEM, THE QUESTION WAS, IN GENERAL WHAT WAS THE TIMING.

THIS WAS A TWO-MINUTE STUDY. I LIVE HERE. TRAFFIC IS EVERYWHERE I UNDERSTAND THAT AND CLEARCUTTING AS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THAT IS ANOTHER THIS IS WHERE

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IT REALLY IS. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELVES, WHO WOULD BUY A HOUSE HERE.

>> I HAD A FRIEND OF OURS WHO SAID EVERY TACKY PAST WAS HARDLY ANY.

BARREL MOVING HERE. AS FAST AS THEY CAN FIND A HOUSE.

PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK. I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION AND A MOTION.

I WILL GO ALONG WITH IT. TO DERIVE SOME FACTS AND LOOK AT THIS, HAVING THIS, NOT EXACTLY,

IT IS HAPPY TO PAY. SO, THAT IS YOUR JOB. >> I ALSO THINK, WE ALSO HAVE TO

HAVE THIS WILL THIS IS MARCH OF 2025. >> BY THAT TIME THE BELTWAY WILL BE FINISHED. WE HAD A SECOND. WHO HAD THE SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED IT CARRIES 5-0. ANYTHING ELSE COMMISSIONER?

>> YOU HEARD IT TONIGHT FROM THE PODIUM. THERE IS A PROBLEM.

IT IS CODE ENFORCEMENT AND CRIME. WE HAD AN ARMED ROBBERY AND WE HAD A BOMB. ON SUNDAY WE HAD AN EVENT AT THE MALL WHICH PROMPTED E-MAILS SUCH AS THIS AND THIS IS A REPRESENTATIVE OF NOISE COMPLAINTS.

WE HAVE PHONE CALLS. WE HAVE PROBLEMS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT.

THIS WILL IDENTIFY THE PROBLEMS AND REMEDY THE PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO MOVE FAST.

ONE PROBLEM IS, WITH THE NOISE AND THE NUISANCES THAT TAKE PLACE.

WE HAVE NOTHING TO COMBAT THAT. YOU CANNOT, WITH THE NOISE, THIS IS DEPENDENT ON YOUR DISTANCE FROM THE SOUND. THE HUMIDITY IN THE AIR. THE AIR CURRENT AND DIRECTIONS.

WE CAN'T, THE EVENT WAS NOT SANCTIONED. IT WAS A PRIVATE EVENT.

WE HAD NO CONTROL BUT THE RESIDENCE ARE SUFFERING FROM THESE ANOMALIES.

I AM TELLING YOU WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND WE NEED TO DO IT FAST.

I DO NOT COME COMPLAINING. I COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AS WELL.

THE SOLUTION IS CALLED A NUISANCE ABATEMENT PROCESS, WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT ORANGE PARK DID. WE REMEDY A HOTEL BUT IT IS A PROBLEM.

IT WAS THROUGH A TOOL AS SUCH THAT WE DON'T HAVE. I AM LOOKING AT THE TOOL FOR PROBLEMATIC PROPERTIES AND IT MAY BE RELEVANT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND PROPERTIES THAT WE CANNOT REMEDY BECAUSE OF HOMESTEAD. LET ME JUST SAY, THIS ORDINANCE

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WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT OF PROBLEMATIC PROPERTY, WHETHER IT BE NOISE OR WHATEVER EMANATING FROM THE PROPERTY THAT IS IMPENDING ON MY WELFARE. THERE MAY BE AN OPTION TO USE THIS TOOL TO LOOK AT WAYS TO GET THE PROPERTY OWNER AND COMPLIANCE.

WHAT I AM ASKING THE BOARD TO TWO, DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT BUT NUISANCE ABATEMENT ORDINANCE AS A REMEDY FOR THE PROBLEMS WE ARE HAVING. THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE PROBLEM.

ALL I CAN SAY TO MY CONSTITUENTS IS I AM SORRY. BUT IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

THEY COULD NOT SLEEP AT NIGHT. THEY COULD NOT ENJOY THEIR SUNDAY DINNER, IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IT I WILL GIVE YOU THEIR PHONE NUMBERS. I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING

AND THIS IS MY RECOMMENDATION. >> I KNOW WE HAD TO CALL ON DOGS BARKING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE MORE THAN THAT. >> DOGS BARKING, IT DEPENDS ON A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS. THE OTHER FACTOR IS THE MEASURING, AND THEY ARE EXPENSIVE AND IN ORDER FOR THIS DATA TO BE RELEVANT IN COURT IT HAS TO BE COLLABORATED AND THAT IS EXPENSIVE. AND THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND THE CARS WITH NO MUFFLERS.

YOU CANNOT IDENTIFY THE SOUND, BUT THIS ORDINANCE, MAY BE ABLE TO REMEDY SOME OF THE SITUATIONS BECAUSE IT IMPINGES ON THE WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS. I MAY CONSIDER THAT BUT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, I KNOW THERE WAS WORK DONE IN 2015 OR 2010. BUT THE COUNTY WAS UPDATED.

AND A LARGE RESPECT WAS BECAUSE OF THE ACTIVITIES GOING ON IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS.

THAT WAS NOT THE ONLY REASON. THAT LEADS TO MY SECOND POINT. PER GROUP GROUP THAT IS SHAKING PEOPLE'S WINDOWS SO THEY CAN'T HAVE SUNDAY DINNER BUT NEXT TIME HE COMES IN FRONT OF US AND ONCE A GRANT FOR WHAT EVER, HE HAS TO ANSWER TO THAT I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE TRYING TO STAY IN BUSINESS BUT I READ THE REPORT THAT SAID HE WILL NOTE HE WILL NOT APPROVE THEM AGAIN AND THIS WILL HELP US OTHER THAN PUTTING ANOTHER ORDINANCE IN PLACE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN FORCE AND I'M NOT SAYING I AM OBJECTING TO IT, I AM SAYING WE DON'T ALWAYS NEED ANOTHER ORDINANCE, SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO ENFORCE THE ONES WE HAVE.

THIS ONE SHUT DOWN THE HOTEL. IT WAS STRICTLY, WE DESIGNED IT FOR THAT HOTEL.

AND WE HAD NO TOOLS. RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY HAS NO TOOLS.

WHAT HAPPENED THERE. I THINK, IF I RECALL, YOU COULDN'T SERVE ALCOHOL AFTER

10:00 P.M. >> >> I KNOW THIS MAY NOT HANDLE

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>> THE OTHER THINK WE TALKED ABOUT, WE TALKED ABOUT SLEEP WHEN THEY ADAM PROBLEM WITH A FERRET AT THE MALL AND WE WENT TO A MEETING AND SOME OF THE CORPORATE PEOPLE CAME IN.

WE TALKED ABOUT GOING TO A SPECIAL EVENT. EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE ONE, I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING MORE LIKE WHAT WAS DONE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

WE HAVE A SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THEY EVALUATE AND THEY PUT UP A TENT.

ONCE IT IS THEIR IT CAN BE SHUT DOWN BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE HERE. THAT IS THE QUESTION.

DO THEY HAVE ENOUGH POLICE. WHAT ARE THE STIPULATIONS. I THINK THAT ASKED TO GO IN CONJUNCTION. WE CAN SEE IT IN MORE DIFFERENT PLACES.

THIS IS ONE CONCERN, INTO DIFFERENT AREAS WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CAPACITY.

IF YOU HAVE, THERE IS A WILDLIFE RESCUE CENTER AND THEY DO A TURKEY SOMETHING THEY DO AN EVENT AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME OUT, LIKE 8-900 PEOPLE DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD TO FROLIC WITH THE BARN ANIMALS. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. THE POINT IS THEY NEVER LEFT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE NO OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NO. THEY DON'T HAVE A SAFETY PLAN.

OUR SPECIAL EVENT IS NOT RELATED. I THINK WE NEED TO EMBELLISH THE PROCESS AS WELL. THAT GIVES PERMISSION TO CONDUCT THE EVENT, IF THEY FOLLOW THE RULES. IF THEY DON'T, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED.

KIMBERLY WITH TOURISM, AND MYSELF AND COURTNEY A LOT OF US HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT CREATING A NEW PERMIT THAT WOULD MEET THE STANDARDS. WE DID THAT CIRCA 2010 WE WERE TRYING TO CREATE AN EVENT PERMIT AND IT DID LIVE. BUT THE GOOD THING IS WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT OUT TO MAKE IT WORK, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SAFETY AND THE POLICE. WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE EVENTS THAT ARE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.

THAT HAS TO BE A PIECE THAT'S NOT THERE TODAY. BARN WEDDINGS ARE A GOOD

EXAMPLE. >> WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD BEFORE.

>> THEY ARE GOING ON WHETHER THEY ARE PERMITTED OR NOT. WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A FOOD TRUCK EVENT AT ST. JOHN'S USING THEIR PARKING LOT AND SOME OF THEIR PARKING AREA, BUT THAT COULD POP UP LIKE THE GREEN COVE EVENT. ARE WE READY TO HANDLE THAT, THAT IS WHY WE NEED A SPECIAL EVENT THAT TALKS ABOUT THIS AND I THINK THE COUNTY MANAGER AT IT

NARROWED DOWN. ANYTHING ELSE. >> ANYTHING ELSE VETERANS DAY IS

COMING UP. >> A NUMBER OF EVENTS IN THE COUNTY.

THE ONLY ONE THAT STARTS AT 10:00 P.M. IS IN GREEN COKE. >> THEY ARE SAYING THAT IS THE

PREEVENT. >> CAMP LANDING IS WORLD WAR II I DON'T WANT BECAUSE OF RON

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>> IT MAY BE WHAT THEY ARE CHARGING. >> THAT IS HOW THEY WILL SOLVE

THE CORN SHORTAGE -- COIN SHORTAGE. >> I APPLAUD THE COMMISSIONERS COURAGE BRING THING THIS OUT. WE HAVE BEEN DANCING AROUND THIS FOR YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE ANSWER BUT I WOULD NOT MIND TRYING.

I THINK IT IS WORTH WHILE. THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER.

THIS IS, THIS, WE DID NOT APPROVE THIS. >> MY QUESTION IS, THERE IS A LOT ON HERE AND A LOT OF STAFF TIME. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO IT. MISS THOMAS SPOKE ABOUT MANY MEETINGS THEY HAVE I HOPE I WAS GOING TO ASK, COULD WE, MAY BE COOK THE COUNTY MANAGER COME BACK AND SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PLANNING AND TOURISM TO PUTTING A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN THE INTERSECTION THAT WE HAD NOT PLANNED FOR. NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC WORKS STAFF WE DON'T DO THAT ANYWHERE ELSE AND YOU CAN CALL ME CHICKEN BUT IT WASN'T THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

AND I DO SUPPORT THAT AND I THINK IT CAN BE GREAT FOR THE CITIZENS IT IS NOT ASSESSABLE FOR MY END OF THE COUNTY. I KNOW WE HAVE THE LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THE VA.

I KNOW THEY ARE TRYING TO BE MORE ASSESSABLE BUT IF WE SWEEP UP SAND AND PAINT MEDIUMS AND CLEAN SIDEWALKS AND THE DIRT, WE ARE OPENING PANDORA'S BOX FOR PUBLIC WORKS MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE. I GUESS THAT IS MY CONCERN WITH PUTTING THIS ON.

THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS WHERE THEY HAVE A DEDICATED PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. THIS JUST OCCURRED TO ME.

MY FINAL COMMENT WAS, WE CAN A LOT OF COMMENTS, I KNOW WE APPROVE THE MONEY FOR THE STUDY AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL COME BACK WITH ANYTHING. IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE SOME POTENTIAL SITES WITH THESE GAS STATIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE BRINGING UP.

THEY ARE VERY INTRIGUING BECAUSE THERE WAS A STORAGE TANK CLEANUP REQUIREMENT THAT OCCURRED IN THE MID- 90S WHERE FEW CLOSE A GAS STATION YOU HAD TO CLOSE IT AND CLEAN IT.

THEN WE HAVE THE OTHER COMPANY THAT WANTS US TO RETROACTIVELY SAY THEIR AREA MAY HAVE BROWNFIELD. WE CAN APPROVE THEM GETTING FUNDING EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE NOT BROWNFIELD BUT THEY WANT THE ADDITIONAL. THERE'S A LOT OF TALK BUT NO ONE HAS ANY ANSWERS FOR US. IF THERE ARE RISKS WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITIZENS IF NOT THEY KEEP COMING UP ON PAPER AND STUFF LIKE THIS. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THAT. THOSE WHEREBY COMMENTS AND THOUGHTS.

>> YOU BRING THIS UP. ARMS LOOKING AT A STONE WATER PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BEFORE THEY EVER STARTED WORK CLEANUP THE ROADS THEY WERE GOING TO USE. THERE ARE SEVEN POINTS THAT ARE

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WOULD LOOK INTO IT AND LET ME KNOW. >> I HAVE A MEETING AND YOU KNOW

WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT. THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO. >> I WAS GOING TO GET US BACK TO THE COLLEGE DRIVE INITIATIVE. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE ITEMS ARE THINGS THAT ARE DONE IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS. WHEN THE GRASS CUTTING FOLKS GO OUT WHY DON'T THEY DO A BETTER JOB. REALISTICALLY, WHY CAN'T THEY DO A BETTER JOB WHEREVER THEY GO.

WE HAVE A NEW MACHINE AND A NEW DEVICE THAT SPRAYS WEEDKILLER SO IT CAN BE UTILIZED ON THE ROADS EVERYWHERE. GRASSES BETWEEN THE CONCRETE AND THE ASPHALT AND IT CAN BE SPRAYED AND KILLED OFF. THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. THERE IS A LOT OF INVESTMENT.

IT IS DONE EVERY DAY AND CAN BE DONE IN THE COURSE OF DOING BUSINESS WITHOUT SPENDING EXTRA TIME THAT IS NOTHING MORE THAN MAKING SURE THE TEAM KNOWS ABOUT IT AND PLANS FOR IT AHEAD OF TIME. IT CERTAINLY BETTER TO DO IT SO WE CAN HONOR THE COLLEGE'S REQUEST FOR HELP IN THE INTERSECTION. YOU TALK ABOUT SAFETY, THAT IS A BIG SAFETY PROBLEM THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE DEPUTIES THERE AND IF IT'S NOT A BIG EVENT I CHALLENGE YOU TO DEAL WITH TAKING THE TURN. THAT IS MINIMAL THE TRAFFIC LIGHT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL COME ABOUT WE HAVE FOUND THE MONEY TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. IF IT IS SAFETY ORIENTED AND SOMETHING WORTH IT I THINK WE COULD FIND THE MONEY FOR THAT. THERE ARE A BUNCH OF PLACES I COULD WALK DOWN THE STREET BUT IT MADE BE EASIER TO HAVE COLD ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WITH ME RATHER THAN ME WRITING IT UP AND SENDING IT TO THEM AND SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT BROWNFIELD. LET'S GO AFTER. IF WE GO AFTER IT AND IT REQUIRES CLEANUP WE GO AFTER THE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT OR WE GET IT DONE.

I DO NOT SEE A BIG INVESTMENT DOLLAR WISE ON ANY OF THESE. WERE NOT ASKING FOR EVERYTHING TO BE DONE BUT WHEN WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED HELP WE ARE LOOKING FOR ASSISTANCE.

WE HAVE GONE AHEAD AND IDENTIFIED ITEMS ON COLLEGE DRIVE AND WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THE GATEWAY TO CALAIS. WE ARE JUST LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR AND WE CAN IDENTIFY PROBLEMS AND GET THE RESIDENCE, WHETHER BUSINESS OR NONPROFIT RELATED OR RESIDENCE TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMS WITH THE STREETS THEY LIVE ON. IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 15-20,000 CARDS PER DATE THAT DRIVE THE ROAD. I DON'T SEE IT AS A BIG ASK OTHER THAN THE INTERSECTION AND THE LIGHT. IF THEY ARE DOING A RRR PROJECT

IS IT LESS EXPENSIVE TO INVOLVE THIS. >> WE ARE DOING IT BUT WE HAVE ALSO TOLD ST. JOHN YOU HAVE SKIN IN THIS GAME. WE WILL GET THE FOURTH LEG PAID

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IT CERTAINLY A PROJECT THAT IS WORTH PLANNING FOR AND AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAKE IT BUT THE OTHER DEFENSE, I FORETOLD THE PROCESS.

PERMITTING AND PUBLICITY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA WHICH WE WOULD DO ANYWAY.

WE DO THAT FOR OUR OWN PEOPLE AND ALL KINDS OF EVENTS. >> I YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THE BOARD APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO WORK ON THAT. IF YOU WANT THE COUNTY MANAGER TO VET THOSE THINGS AND INDICATE THE COST I WOULD SAY I WANT THE ROAD TO COME BACK.

FAIR IS FAIR. >> I READ THAT, AND I READ THE BURBAGE AND THE ONLY THING THAT JUMPED OUT WAS THE INTERSECTION. THE REST OF THE STUFF WE ARE ASKING THE STAFF TO DO THEIR JOB. MAYBE WE ARE ASKING FOR SPECIAL EMPHASIS BUT, WHEN I WOULD ASK FOR CLIPPINGS, THE COUNTY MANAGER WOULD TELL ME, WE TOO ADEQUATE BUT NOT NICE.

THE DEAL IS IF WE DO WITH THEIR SPECIAL WE HAVE TO DO IT EVERYWHERE SPECIAL.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO DO. , WE WOULD NEED PERMISSION FOR

THEM TO DO IT. >> THAT IS PREFERABLE. AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK, WE

WENT THROUGH THIS DEBATE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS. >> I THINK IT IS TIME WE START

DOING NICE. >> I WILL TELL YOU I HAD A SPECIFIC ROAD THAT A RESIDENT CALLED ON TO MOLD THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO KEEP SNAKES DOWN NEAR A CAMP.

I ASKED THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WHAT WAS REASONABLE TO EXPECT AND THEIR ANSWER WAS TWICE PER YEAR. TWICE PER YEAR IN FLORIDA WHERE THE GRAPH AND THE BRAIN ARE FREQUENT ALL SUMMER. THAT IS THE PANDORA'S BOX I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I AM NOT FIGHTING THIS. WHAT I DON'T HAVE, AND WHAT I DID NOT REALIZE, I READ HER REPORT. I DID NOT REALIZE UNTIL SHE CALLED ME AT 10:00 A.M. THAT SHE WAS ASKING US TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. WHAT I DON'T HAVE IS FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO GO BACK AND SAY DO WE HAVE THE STAFF TO SUPPORT THIS.

ONCE WE BOAT TO APPROVE THIS LIST WE HAVE APPROVED A. I THINK OF THINGS LIKE, I NOTE THE DIRECT TOURISM DEPARTMENT AND I KNOW THEY PROVIDE THAT ALREADY IN CERTAIN WAYS AND THEY HAVE GRANTS. BUT IS IT SPECIFICALLY TO WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED FOR.

I WOULD SAY STAFF WORKS FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER. ANYWAY THAT WAS ALL I WAS ASKING. I AM NOT ANTI- DOING THESE THINGS BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE THINGS WE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET AND I AGREE, GOOD ENOUGH HAS SEEMED TO BE THE STANDARD

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AND THAT IS HOW WE ARE STAFFED. >> WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT GET BETTER AND WE WANT TO GET TO THE NEXT LEVEL. AS FAR AS THE GATEWAY PROJECT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN EXECUTE ON. WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN THAT FAR YET BUT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO GO. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PUBLIC NEED AND YOU HAVE MURDERS AND ARMED

ROBBERIES, I KNOW WHERE MY PRIORITIES WILL BE. >> WE ARE NOT STOPPING THOSE THINGS, WE ARE CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT PROMOTES IT. AND CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT DOES NOT PROMOTE THESE. JUST LIKE THE BROKEN WINDOW IT INVITES CRIMINAL ACTIVITY RIGHT NOW. WE NEED A STRATEGY TO CHANGE THAT.

WHAT THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW BUT IT IS SERIOUS. >> BUT IF WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF COLLEGE DRIVE, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. THIS WAS -- AND I HEARD HER SAY THIS IS A 5-10 YEAR PLAN. I DID NOT LOOK AT THIS. I DID NOT SAY TOMORROW I WILL STREET SWEEP THE AREA WHICH BY THE WAY WE HAVE TO DO THE RRR. WE CAN HELP OUT IN DIFFERENT AREAS WHERE IT IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED. I THINK I CAN COME BACK AND GIVE A TIMELINE WHICH WOULD HELP THE BOARD AGREED WITH THE COMMISSIONERS.

IT IS WITHIN OUR BUDGET. SO TERESA AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

WE HAVE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT IMPROVING GUTTERS GETTING THE DIRT.

AND SHE SLOWLY ROSE THE BAR. BUT I CAN'T DO IT INSTANT PAIN EASILY.

I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY AND SECURITY, THAT IS HOW I WILL TAKE THIS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES AHEAD, AND ON COLLEGE DRIVE, THIS IS DANGEROUS. I THINK IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, I WILL FOCUS ON THE RRR, THE INTERSECTION, AND I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE ONE MORE THAT WAS EASY. OBVIOUSLY THEY WILL HELP OUT WHERE THEY CAN FOR THIS.

I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND GIVE YOU A BETTER TIMELINE. I TOOK THIS AS THESE WERE THE MAJOR AREAS THEY WANTED TO ADDRESS AND I CAN GIVE A BRIEF TO THE BOARD ON HOW TO MAKE A

DECISION. >> GROWTH WORKSHOP. IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT, IT IS NEXT WEEK I NOTE THE COMMISSIONERS ARE OUT OF TOWN. IF IT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WENT TWO FOR TWO WEEKS, IF HE NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH TWO WEEKS, THERE WAS LEEWAY TO GO WITH THE OTHER ONE. I WOULD ASK FROM THE BOARD, ON THAT WORKSHOP FOR THE ZONING WITHIN LAKE ASBERRY. HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE YOU TO GET SETBACKS.

THAT WAS THE OTHER LIMITING FACTOR. ADDRESS CURRENTLY WHAT IS APPROVED WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AND THAT WOULD BE A GAS OR RUMORS LIKE A POTENTIAL PLAN AREA. ANA.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND ACCESS THAT TO MOVE FORWARD.

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>> THIS IS PRETTY IMPORTANT. WHAT ELSE IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THIS HAS BEEN DONE BUT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST COULD WE DO IT TOMORROW AT 3:00 P.M. BEFORE THE MEETING ON THE 23RD. IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO

SPEAK THAT IS THE ONLY THING, I DON'T KNOW. >> SHORT-CIRCUITS AND YOU ARE UNDER THE GUN FOR TIME STRENGTHS UNLESS SHE WANTED TO DO IT EARLIER I WOULD SAY THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER LOOK THROUGH THIS. HE CAN GET EVERYONE'S INPUT AND

COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS. >> THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER.

AS LONG AS WE SET THE RULES, THAT'S OKAY. BY DOING THIS, WERE WAITING ON HIM MORTGAGE. WE ARE HOLDING ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WILL BE A

BIG DEAL. >> I DON'T WANT TO INVADE ON YOUR TIME TO DO YOUR OTHER JOB BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO THE LUNCH ON THE 22ND, MAYBE LATER THAT AFTERNOON, IT MIGHT BE BEFORE

PEOPLE LEAVE TOWN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE. >> I THINK IT IS BEST FOR HIM TO TOUCH BASE AND WE CAN PICK FROM THERE. THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN -- I'M

AVAILABLE. >> COUNTY MANAGER YOU WILL COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

>> IF THERE'S FLEXIBILITY, I CAN LOOK AT THE 23RD. I WOULD SAY MAYBE THERE WOULD BE A MORNING SESSION AND THEN WE COULD BREAK. IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE I CAN MOVE

AHEAD WITHOUT. >> THERE IS A EATING ON THE 16TH BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I

WOULD HAVE THE DATA PUT TOGETHER. >> YOU MAY NEED MORE THAN ONE

MEETING. >> MAYBE ANOTHER RENEWAL. WE HAVE ONE IN DECEMBER

TARGETING THE MORNING OF THE 23RD FOR THE WORKSHOP. >> THANK YOU STAFF, I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU'RE DOING. WE APPRECIATE YOU HANGING IN THERE.

THANK YOU

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.