Nov 04, 2021 BCC Workshop

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> WE'LL CALL THIS SPECIAL BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS WORKSHOP TO ORDER. GOOD AFTERNOON ALL. THIS IS A WORKSHOP SO NO VOTES WILL BE TAKING PLACE BUT TODAY WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE 2022 LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNTY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, I'M GOING TO MOVE PUBLIC COMMENT UP BECAUSE I DO SEE WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATIVES OF MUNICIPALITIES AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM FIRST AS WE HEAR MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT ADD TO OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY LIST. SO, WE'LL DO THAT HERE RIGHT AFTER ROLL CALL

AND RUNDOWN THE AGENDA. >> SO, THIS IS A SPECIAL WORKSHOP, NOVEMBER 4TH, 2021. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT ALL THE COMMISSIONERS ARE IN PLACE AND PRESENT HERE AND LOOKING AT OUR AGENDA, WE'LL BE COVERING JUST A COUPLE OF ITEM, BUT THEY'RE IN DEPTH ITEMS, ONE IS CLAY COUNTY PROPOSED LADIE PROPOSED LEDGE LATE LATETIVE PROCESS.

>> DO YOU WANT TO PREFACE ANYTHING BEFORE WE GET START

SNIDE >> CHAIRMAN, YES, GOOD AFTERNOON AND BOARD. I WILL THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS WE WANTED TO CODIFY AND CAPTURE THE PROCESS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

MUCH OF WHAT WILL BE DISCUSSED TODAY WILL NOT BE NEW. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT IN OTHER WORKSHOPS AND OTHER MEETINGS. WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO SOLIDIFY AND MOVE FORWARD AS MENTIONED A FEW MEETINGS AGO TO GET A PALM CARD OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THE DESIRES ARE IN THE LINE OF APPROPRIATIONS AND POLICY.

BEFORE YOU HAVE A DRAFT CARD, IT DOESN'T SAY DRAFT CARD, IT WAS UP FOR DISCUSSION BUT JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT THE STAFF TOOK LIBERTY TO CREATE AND HOPEFULLY IT PASSES INSPECTION AND APPROVAL. AND IT WAS BASED OFF OF THE NORTH FLORIDA TPOS, MANY OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS HAVE EITHER PREPARED THEIR LISTS OR ARE PREPARING, THE LEAGUE OF CITYS IS ON GOING RIGHT NOW TODAY AND TOMORROW DOWN IN ORLANDO, THAT'S WHERE TWO OF THE MANAGERS ARE RIGHT NOW, THEY COULD NOT ATTEND. I PERSONALLY INVITED ALL OF THEM. IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT LYNN IS HERE FROM KEYSTONE HEIGHTS. AND I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS ON AND MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN TO DISCUSS THE PRIORITIES AND WE WOULD BE BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL AND THAT, IF NEEDED. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TOTALLY NEEDED ON THAT, ABOUT YOU THAT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION ALSO. LOTS OF BACKUP THAT'S THERE ONLINE AGAIN, THERE'S THE CIP, ARPA LIST AND THE GRANT LISTS, ALL OF THIS COMES INTO PLAY AND EVENTUALLY WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE LIST THAT KAREN KEPT AND JUST FOCUS IN ON CIP, ARPA, AND THE GRANTS. THAT WAY, AND AS I WAS JUST TALKING TO, JOE MOBLY IS HERE, AND REPRESENTING US US IN TALLAHASSEE, REALLY, WENT WAY AHEAD TO SAY IF WE HAD A PROJECT OUT THERE THAT THIS MATCHING MONEYS, THOSE USUALLY GET APPROVED, OR THOSE INTEREST SORT. SO WHAT BETTER DOCUMENT SHOULD WE HAVE RATHER THAN A CIP AND USING IT MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, PENDING ANY QUESTIONS.

>> I JUST HAVE ONE ADDITION, THAT'S FACS MEETING THE 17-19TH IN NOVEMBER TO DO THE SAME THING. THE ASSOCIATION IS

MEETING IN SAN DUST TIN. >> I TOO WILL BE THERE. JUST FOR ONE DAY. FOR IT. AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT, YES, SIR.

>> ACTUALLY, I HAVE A ZOOM MEETING WITH ONE OF THE COMMITTEES A WEEK BEFORE THAT SO THAT THOSE THINGS CAN BE IRONED OUT BEFORE EVERYBODY GETS TO THE CONFERENCE.

>> I ATTENDED THE NORTHEAST REGIONAL MEETING THEY HAVE THEIR

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

DISCUSSION. >> SO, WE'LL MOVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS UP TO THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING BECAUSE WE WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM REPRESENTATIVES OF MUNICIPALITIES OR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO MAY WANT TO, AS YOU KNOW, ASK US TO CONSIDER SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT LINED UP TO CONSIDER OR ABOUT TO CONSIDER.

AND SO, WE DO HAVE ONE CARD RIGHT NOW, LYNN FROM THE CITY OF

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FOR A BIT. I CAN DO THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION I'M LYNN AND I WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR PRIORITIES FROM THE CITY AND FROM THE AIRPORT'S PERSPECTIVE. AS MANY OF YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MR. CORNIGAA WATER AND SEWER HAS BEEN A PROPERTY DOWN AT THE AIRPORT. IF WE CAN'T GET TO TOGETHER NOW, WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO WITH THE FUNDING AVAILABLE. THE CITY AND AIRPORT JOINED FORCES FOR A SCOPE AND FEE FOR A FEASIBILITY STUDY. THAT CAME AT THE COST OF $135,000. BETWEEN THE AIRPORT AND THE CITY, WE'RE COVERING THAT COMPLETELY. WHAT YOUR ASK IS SUPPORT IN THE NEXT SESSION FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S GOING TO COME AFTER THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, WE'RE TOLD IT'S A PRICE TAG OF UPWARDS OF $30 MILLION FROM CCUA. ONCE THE STUDY'S COMPLETE WE'LL BE ABLE TO AWNS WHAT THAT MEANS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH CONGRESSWOMAN CAT, AND WE FEEL THAT NOW'S THE TIME. I'M ASKING THE COMMISSION TO PUT SUPPORT BEHIND THIS, IT'S SUPPORT FOR OUR COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR LYNN?

>> I WOULD JUST ADD A COMMENT THAT AT THE REGIONAL COUNTY MEETING, COMMISSIONER RAULS FROM PUTNUM COUNTY MENTIONED THERE'S SMALL RULE AREAS TO FLY IN AND OUT FOR THE UPAND COMING HEMP MARKET AND SPECIFICALLY IN DISCUSSIONS HE'S BEEN IN, THE AIRPORT WAS MENTIONED. SO, IT COULD BE POSSIBLE IF YOU COULD TIE IT TO AGRICULTURE THINGS WE COULD GET FOR SUPPORT TO REALLY

SUPPORT THE AIRPORT. >> ABSOLUTELY. THE PRICE TAG OF WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE ONCE WE GET THE PLAN FOR SHOVELS IN THE GROUND, THAT SEAMS TO BE THE EASIER ASK OF THE TWO. SO, THE CITY AND THE AIRPORT CAME TOGETHER AND DECIDED OUT OF OUR FUNDING AND BUDGETS, WE'RE GOING TO FUND THE ENTIRE FEASIBILITY STUDY SO WE'LL HAVE A SHOVEL-READY PROJEC WHEN THE TIME COMES AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> DOES THE FAA FUND ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE BOUNDARY OF THE

FIELD? >> NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, MOST PFT FUNDING THAT COMES FROM THE FAA TO THE AIRPORT IS SPECIFICALLY INSIDE THE FIELD. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FDOT ABOUT POTENTIALLY FUNDING SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, BUT FAA IS NOT

ONE OF OUR RESOURCES. >> I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO GET COVID FUNDS AS WELL. SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR RULES ARE.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND LYNN, WHAT'S THE TIMING

OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY? >> THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, IF ALL GOES WELL AND EVERYBODY IS SHORT-HANDED, THEY'RE LOOKING AT 60-90 DAYS. SO THE CONTRACT WILL BE SIGNED WITHIN THE NEXT

TWO WEEKS. >> AND AE COME IS DOING IT?

>> YES, SIR. >> MAY I ALSO ADD THAT YOU GET, COMMISSIONER, DO YOU GET CRYSTAL LYNN'S RURAL COUNTY UPDATES?

>> I DON'T. >> IN THOSE HE HAS HAD LANGUAGE IN THERE THE LAST WEEK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT THE STATE HAS RECOGNIZED MORE REVENUES THAN THEY EXPECTED TO RECOGNIZE, AND THEY HAVE FORMS OUT THERE THAT ARE DUE NOVEMBER 17TH FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. AND YOU HAVE TO FILE ONE IN THE SENATE AND ONE IN THE HOUSE, AND I KNOW THAT'S LIKE THE EXTENT OF WHAT I KNOW FROM READING IT, JOE WOULD KNOW WAY MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT, I READ THAT IN THE UPDATE. AND I KNOW, I WOULD THINK WATER AND SEWER WOULD FALL UNDER THAT. THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO CONSIDER. WE COULD FORWARD YOU

THE E-MAIL. >> I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE MORE THING IS THAT THE CITY'S LEGISLATIVE ASK THIS YEAR WE FILED WITH REPRESENTATIVE BOBBY PAIN'S OFFICE HAS BEEN SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WATER AND SEWER STRUCTURE, LIKE I SAID, ONCE WE GET PASS THE FEASIBILITY.

>> VERY GOOD. >> ANYBODY ELSE?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME Z THANKS FOR BEING HERE

TODAY, REAPPRECIATE IT. >> LET'S MOVE AHEAD. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT. IF

[1.  Clay County Proposed Legislative Process]

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET PROCESS. THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE'RE COVERING TODAY BASICALLY HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE CHAIR WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND HOW WE COME UP WITH PRIORITIES FOR THIS SESSION AND SUCCESSIVE SESSIONS FOR BOTH POLICY AND APPROPRIATIONS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE, CONSIDERATIONS FOR APPROVAL AND APPROPRIATION REQUESTS, THE MANAGERS ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT CIP ARPA AND GRANTS AND MAKING DECISIONS THAT MAKE SENSE, TRYING TO FIND ADDITIONAL MATCHING FUNDS AND USING ASKS THAT WE CAN THROUGH OUR LEGISLATURES TO HELP IF AFACILI THE KINDS OF JOBS THAT WE CAN DO COLLABORATIVELY.

>> I CALL THE SESSION SUMMARY, THE BIG LETTER KAREN PUT TOGETHER EVERY YEAR. LAST YEAR, IT WAS 6-8 PAGES, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE. BUT THE INTENT OF THE PROCESS IS TO TAKE THAT PREVIOUS YEAR SUMMARY AND THEN GO AHEAD AND LOOK AND INDICATE HE WINS, LOSSES, AND TPS, OR TEMPORARILY POSTPONED ITEMS FOR EACH OF THE ITEMS ON THAT SESSION'S LIST. THEN, TO TURN AROUND AND COORDINATE RECOMMENDED CHANGES WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND STAFF BASED ON THE PREVIOUS YEAR'S LEGISLATION. CERTAINLY WILL TAKE IN ACT IMPORTANT ISSUES AT THE TIME. IDENTIFY THE TOP 3-5 ISSUES MOST DESIROUS TO THE COUNTY ADD ANOTHER 3-5 ISSUES, IN THE SLANG OF THEY WERE IN THE RACE TUBE BUT DIDN'T MAKE IT UP THE TIER. IDENTIFY 3 TO 5 ALSO RANS AS WELL SO WE HAVE A SHORT LIST FOR THE MOST AGGRESSIVE LOBBYING AND ADVOCATED. AND THEN WE WOULD USE THE NEW SUMMARY AS A BENCH MARK THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL THE ONES, NOT JUST THE TOP WANTS. BUT ALL THE WANTS, THAT WE PRESENT THAT NEW SUMMARY TO THE BOARD FOR CHANGES AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND ULTIMATELY APPROVE THAT SUMMARY. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO GENERATE A PALM CARD THAT BRIEFLY DESCRIBES EACH TOP ISSUES. THE TOP 3-5 ISSUES WILL BE THE PRIORITY AND WILL BE WORKED BY THE LOBBYIST AND THE STAFF LEGISLATIVE COORDINATOR AND INVITING THE BOCC CHAIR TO ATTEND MEETINGS, IN TALLAHASSEE.

THE TOP 3-5 ITEMS ARE THE ONES YOU REALLY NEED TO GET ON THE GROUND AND GET IN FRONT OF PEOPLE AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THIS PROCESS IS DIVIDING THESE LEGISLATIVE WANTS INTO PRIORITIES SO THAT WE'RE BASICALLY PUTTING THAT MUCH MORE EFFORT INTO THE TOP THREE TIER. ALSO, IN THIS MODEL, A LOBBYIST WILL TAKE A MORE ACTIVE ROLE IN WORKING THE ALSO AND AND AWES THE LESSER REQUESTS ON THE SUMMARY BUT DIDN'T MAKE THE TOP THREE OR FIVE, HE OR SHE WOULD KEEP US UPDATED WEEKLY SO WE COULD DISTRIBUTE INFORMATION TO YOU AND THE SELECTIVE STAFF SO WE'RE ALL PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT THE TEND TEN DENTSIES ARE

[2.  Discussion of Clay County's Top Priorities for 2022 Session]

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SUGGESTIONS OR COMMENTS. >> AND SO, CHARLEY, LET ME ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE TIMING. WHAT WOULD THE TIMING BE TO COORDINATE SO THAT WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION MEETING OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THIS WHICH WOULD BE MORE CLOSER TO THE ACTUAL START OF THE SESSION?

>> I THINK CERTAINLY WE'RE OPEN TO SUGGESTION, BUT, WE'RE RIGHT ON LINE WITH ALL THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE MANAGER BROUGHT UP RIGHT NOW AT THIS POINT IN THIS PROCESS. THE FIRST TIME THAT WE MET WITH LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION, WE WERE USING INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM YOU IN THE IMPROMPTU SURVEY, AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, ONCE THE PROCESS ENDS, IT'S JUST LIKE THE BUDGET, IT STARTS RIGHT OVER AGAIN. AND WE NEED TO SUMMARIZE THE LISTS WITH WINS, LOSSES, AND TPS, ADDING AND SUBTRACTING TO IT BASED ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

THE MANAGER ADDITIONAL HELP FOR, WE PUT THAT ON THE PROCESS EARLY SO THAT AS WE WORK IT WE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. SO.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHARLEY ON THE PROCESS OR SUGGESTION

SNUZ >> NO, QUESTION, BUT AAPPLAUD THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A PROCESS. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO CRITIQUE IT, I'M READY TO MOVE FORWARD. Y'ALL KNOW I

LIKE A PROCESS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> THAT YOU CAN. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD

WORK. >> THANK YOU.

>> WE HAD ONE MUNICIPALITY PRESENT TODAY. THERE'S FOUR.

DO WE VACUUM UP THEIR PRIORITIES AND TRY TO SEE WHERE WE GET

LEVERAGE FROM THE BIGGER WE? >> YES, SIR, ACTUALLY, THE MANAGER HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH EACH OF THE RESPECTIVE CITYS IN LEADERSHIP AND INVITING THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. I THINK, DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT, SIR?

>> CHAIRMAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IN THIS AND TAKING A LOOK AT IT, I THINK SHARING OF INFORMATION WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A MONTHLY MEETING THAT ALL THE MANAGERS ATTEND. AND I SUGGESTED JUST THIS WEEK WAS WHY DON'T WE TRY TO CODIFY AND GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A AN EVEN STRONGER VOICE TOGETHER SO, AS WE MOVE FORWARD COMMISSIONER, YES, SIR, I PLAN ON DOING THAT. AND THEN I CAN COME TO THE BOARD AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR'S ARE AND THEIR PRIORITIES. AND THEN, I THINK WHAT'S HARD TO BALANCE OTT OUT HERE IS YOU HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WHICH DID OCCUR A LITTLE EARLY. SO, WE WERE KIND OF IN A HURRY-UP MODE IN THAT.

AND NOW YOU HAVE THESE ASSOCIATIONS MEETING TO RACK AND SACK THERE. SO, IT'S HARD TO JUDGE EXACTLY WHERE THAT SWEET SPOT IS. I WOULD SAY THAT I THINK ANOTHER FACTOR THAT APPLIED FOR US WAS OUR CIP AND RENEWING THE FIVE YEAR CIP PLAN AND ARPA AND OUR NEW GRANTS PROGRAM. I THINK AS WE GET BETTER IN THE PROCESSES AND DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE AND THE FOCUS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE BOARD, I THINK IT WILL BE EASIER TO ADDRESS THE FOLLOW ON SESSION HERE. I THINK FOR THIS ONE, OUR GOAL FOR THIS MEETING HERE AND THIS WORKSHOP WAS REALLY TO GET DOWN TO THE PALM CARD AND TO HAVE THAT READY. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD HAD THEIR VOICE, THAT IT WAS PUT ON THE CARD, THAT IT WAS WHAT WE WANTED TO GO FORWARD WITH FROM CLAY COUNTY. AND I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD WE CAN INCORPORATE THE MUNICIPALITIES, THE OTHER ASSOCIATIONS AND THEIR IDEAS. I THINK ONE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT, SOME OF US TRACK IT, TRACKING THE BILLS. SO, IT'S SO DYNAMIC AND SO CHANGING THAT WHEN A PARTICULAR PRIORITY COMES OUT OR A BILL IS PROPOSED, AND THEN, FOR US TO ENSURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S IN THAT BILL THAT HAS PERHAPS MAJOR EFFECTS TO OUR COUNTY IS ANOTHER ASPECT TO THIS HERE. CHARLEY JUST BRIEFED THE PROCESS TO GET TO THE TOP APPROPRIATIONS AND TOP POLICIES, BUT THERE'S EVEN MORE TO THIS AS

WE PLAY IT OUT AND EXECUTE IT. >> WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM JOE? JUST A MINUTE, SO I'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR HIS THOUGHTS

AS WELL. >> A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL COMMENTS TO THE MANAGER'S, I FIRST REACHED OUT TO THE FAC ABOUT 2 AND-A-HALF MONTHS AGO TO TRY AND GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THEIR INITIATIVES WERE INVOLVED THIS YEAR, AND THEY BASICALLY SAID THEY WERE NOT READY TO PUT IT TOGETHER. SO, THE TIMING IS

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WITH THE FIRST OBJECTIVE. >> OKAY. ANYONE ELSE, THOUGHTS

ON THE PROCESS IN >> OF COURSE, JUST LIKE ALL OF THE PROCESSES YOU PUT IN PLACE, THEY WILL GET FINE TUNED AS WE MOVE ALOPPING AND SEE WHAT WORKS BEST AND WHAT THE IMPACT IS.

BUT, CERTAINLY, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS, THE PALM CARD, I THINK WORKS PRETTY WELL. IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE COULD GET ON IT AND ALSO KEEPING IT COMPACT. ANYBODY

HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? >> JIM'S GOING TO LOOK FOR A

DOUBLE COMMA SOMEWHERE. >> I SUGGEST WE SHRINK SOME OF THE STUFF IN PRINT, PUT A POLICY THING ON THE BACK. AND WAYNE

HIT YOUR MIC. >> PUT ON THE, MAKE THE TYPE

BIGGER ON THE BACK. >> OKAY.

>> SAME STUFF. >> WE'RE BRAIN STORMING THIS

THING LEFT AND RIGHT. >> I GOT TO GO LIKE THIS TO

FIGURE OUT WHAT IT'S SAYING. >> I THINK THE SIZE OF IT AND WHAT WE DO PUT ON THE FRONT IS UP FOR DISCUSSION. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT COLORS, EARLIER, HOW TO SET IT UP AND THAT, IT'S

ALL UP FOR DISCUSSION. >> WELL, WE ACTUALLY USED THE

TPO AS A MODEL, RIGHT? >> YES.

>> IF I SHALL THEIR'S, THE BACK OF THEIR'S WAS REALLY SMALL IN

TERMS OF THE TYPE. >> I BROUGHT EXTRA COPIES, THAT WAS FROM 2020 WHEN I WAS VICE CHAIR AND CHAIR OF THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE. AND IT WORKED OUT REAL WELL FOR US.

>> AND DEPENDING ON WHEN WE WANT TO PUT IN THERE, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE IS IF WE DO MOVE TO A SUPPORT OR ADVOCATED SUPPORT FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES, WE WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME SQUEEZING ANYMORE IN THERE. SO, THE LAYOUT, CERTAINLY, AGAIN SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN BE TWEAKED AS WE GO ALONG AND DETERMINE WHAT WE HAVE. BUT, YEAH, THE KEY IS TO MAKE SURE YOUR NAME'S ON THE FRONT SO WHEN SOMEBODY'S LOOKING AT IT, THEY KNOW WHOSE ASKING.

>> YES, SIR. >> ANYTHING ELSE FROM CHARLEY?

>> WE'RE GOING TO TALK LATER ABOUT THE CONTENT, RIGHT?

>> YEAH, WE'RE JUST TALKING PROCESS AND HOW THAT ALL WORKS.

>> OKAY. >> I LIKE IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO, CHARLEY YOU READY TO MOVE INTO THE

PRIORITIES? >> NO, JOE'S GOING TO BE COMING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT AFTER I FINISH THIS PART UP.

>> THE CURRENT SESSION PRIORITIES HAVE BEEN BASED OFF OF INPUT THAT IS WE RECEIVE, IF YOU RECALL BACK IN AUGUST, I SENT OUT A QUERY TO EVERYBODY AND IN SEPTEMBER WE HAD A MEETING TO TAKE THOSE AND PUT THINGS TOGETHER. AND WE CAME UP WITH THREE PRIORITIES, NUMBER ONE IS THE JAIL EXPANSION, NUMBER TWO IS THE BROAD BAND INITIATIVES AND NUMBER THREE IS THE SWEAT PROGRAM. SINCE THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION WAS HERE, WE WERE ASKED BY REPRESENTATIVE PAYNE'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE FORMAL WRITTEN REQUEST. WE HAVE SUBMITTED THOSE THREE REQUESTS BASED OFF OF OUR PREAPPROVAL OR PRENUMBERING OF THOSE PRIORITIES, BUT THERE WERE ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION REQUESTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WHICH ALSO RAN IN THE PROCESS.

AND THOSE ARE LISTED ON THE PAGE, COUNTY ROADS, WIDEN HIGHWAYS 16 TO 4 LANES, MAKE OPERATIONAL IMPROCHLTS TO BLANDING AND WE WILLS ROADS. WATER AND DRAINAGE PROJECTS AS IDENTIFIED BY COUNTYWIDE DRAINAGE STUDY AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH GRANT REQUEST AND ASKED FOR ADDITION FUNDING THROUGH THE STATE. SO THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL MONEY AS WELL OF. GREENWAYS AND TRAILS, TO EFFECTILY CONNECT TRAILS FROM CLAY COUNTY TO NEIGHBORING COUNTIES. EXPANDING AND UPGRADING THE BARN AREAS AT THE FAIR GROUNDS. AS FAR AS

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>> FIRST OFF I COMMEND CHARLEY AND THE TEAM, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PATH GOING FORWARD TO UTILIZE EVERY YEAR. ONE THING THAT DOES MAKE IT DIFFICULT, IS OBVIOUSLY, ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, THEY MOVED SESSION IN THE EVEN YEARS TO JANUARY TO MARCH AND CONTINUED WITH THAT KIND OF MARCH TO MAY TIME FRAME IN THE ODD YEARS. SO, A THIS TIME, WE'RE CRUNCHED IN, YOU KNOW, 14 MONTHS OF WORK INTO 10 BECAUSE OF THAT FACTOR.

SO, BUT, REALLY GOOD JOB IN MY OPINION, ON THE FRAMEWORK FOR IT. I WOULD MAKE A COUPLE RECOMMENDATIONS, IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE. I MIGHT USE BULLETS RATHER THAN NUMBERS FOR THOSE, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MARRY UP OUR PRIORITIES WITH THE DELEGATION'S PRIORITIES. FOR EXAMPLE, IF I'M REPRESENTSIVE GARSON, GREENWAYS ARE HUGELY IMPORTANT FOR ME, I DON'T WANT HIM THINKING THAT'S OUR 5TH OR FOURTH PRIORITY.

MOVE THAT WAY UP, THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.

>> I LIKE THAT. WE HAVE DONE THAT ON THE CARD ITSELF.

>> SO, I THINK THAT'S GOOD. LET ME SEE IF I CAN READ MY WRITING HERE. AS FAR AS THE ISSUE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK NEEDS STATEWIDE SUPPORT. THAT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT WITH A REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE THAT'S FEE AND TAXING FIRST. THAT ONE IS SOMETHING, I THINK WE REALLY NEED A GROUND SWELL OF SUPPORT FOR FOR THE OTHER COUNTIES TO GET ON BOARD WITH. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY CAME OUT OF THEIR COMMITING, WITH THAT ON THEIR LIST, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US. AND I WAS GOING TO MENTION TO KEYSTONE, I WAS AT CECIL WHERE THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED A JOB GROWTH GRANT FUN. THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK KEYSTONE SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT. THEY'LL TAP OUT AT $6 MILLION, BUT IF YOU COULD PIECE IT TOGETHER WITH OTHERS, THAT'S ONE THAT THE GOVERNOR CAN DO ON IT'S OWN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS AND IT COULD BE A MULTI-YEAR TYPE THING, BUT CERTAINLY WORTH EXPLORING, I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT AS WELL.

AND I HEARD SOMETHING IN WEEK IN TALLAHASSEE, I NEVER HEARD IN MY CAREER, I HEARD AN APPROPRIATIONS CHAIR PERSON SAY

WE'RE FLUSHED WITH CASH. >> WHAT WAS HIS NUMBER?

>> YEAH, WHICH I'M LIKE, NO PRESSURE ON ME, NOW, RIGHT?

>> IN THE BILLIONS, RIGHT? I MEAN IT WAS --

>> THE REVENUES THEY ANNOUNCED WERE SEVERAL BILLION DOLLARS HIGHER. I KNOW THEY WILL STASH SOME AWAY, AND I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY MONEY AND WE SHOULD CERTAINLY TRY TO BE AMBITIOUS AND I THINK OUR LEGISLATURES WILL BE. SO, THOSE ARE REALLY MY COMMENTS ON DE PRODUCT AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROCESS, AND I WISH IT WERE A LITTLE EASIER TO PIN DOWN THE TIMELINES, THEY USED TO GIVE US DEADLINES ON THOSE, AND THIS YEAR THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN US DEADLINES, I WOULD LIKE TO GET THEM IN AS SOON AS WE CAN AND TODAY'S MEETING WOULD ADVANCE

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>> WHAT'S YOUR SUGGESTION ON TIMING, OBVIOUSLY, THE STATE DELEGATION MEETING USUALLY HAPPENS PRETTY EARLY IN THE PROCESS, SHOULD WE AIM TO BE IN THIS KIND OF MODE TO GET THIS TO THEM AT THAT TIME, OR ARE WE GOING IN WITH A ROUGH DRAFT AND FINE TUNE AND GET SOMETHING TO THEM CLOSER TO SESSION?

>> I THINK SIMILAR TO WHAT WE GAVE THEM THIS YEAR, I KNOW IT SEEMED KIND OF RUSHED, BUT YOU THREW IT OUT THERE AND HEARD THEIR FEEDBACK THAT DAY AND THEN TAYLOR IT FROM THAT, SO, WHETHER INTENTIONAL OR NOT, IT KIND OF WORKED THIS YEAR, DOING IT THAT WAY. AND OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE MORE TIME NEXT YEAR WITH SESSION BEING LATER. BUT, OBVIOUSLY, THE YEAR AFTER THAT WE'LL NEED TO MOVE QUICKER WITH THE SESSION BEING IN JANUARY.

>> AND WHAT'S YOUR FEELING IN TERMS OF MENTIONS OR PROVIDING SUPPORT THROUGH OUR REQUEST FOR THE VARIOUS MUNICIPALITY'S REQUESTS, LIKE IN THIS CASE WITH KEYSTONE AND THEIR AIRPORT

UTILITIES REQUEST. >> I THINK THEY WOULD NEED TO GET THOSE FORMS FILED ON THEIR OWN SINCE THEY'RE THE RECIPIENTS OF THE FUNDS. BUT HAVE NO ISSUE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE TRYING TO PUSH THOSE THROUGH THE APPROPRIATIONS PROCESS IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR DESIRE IS WE WOULD LOVE TO HELP.

>> YEAH, WE WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AS THE MUNICIPALITIES WITH THESE PROJECTS AND IN SOME CASES WE MAY BE ABLE TO TEAM UP ON THOSE, BUT IS THAT GOING TO MUDDY THE WATER IF WE?

>> TO ME, THAT'S LIKE, COMMISSIONER BOLLA SAID, HOW MUCH ROOM DO YOU HAVE? IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF YOU CAN, I WOULD TO SHOW THE SOLIDARITY AND SUPPORT.

>> IN THIS CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND COMMISSION HAS DEFINITELY BEEN MORE COLLEGIAL THAN A LOT OF OTHERS I'VE SEEN AROUND THE STATE, YOUR NOT SNIPING AT EACH OTHER, A LOT OF THE TIMES, SOMETIMES THE CIRCULAR FIRING SQUADS CAN GET

MESSY. >> WEIGH IN IF YOU WILL ON POLICY IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S VALUABLE FOR US TO PUSH AHEAD

WITH AT THE SAME TIME? >> WELL, ABSOLUTELY AS FAR AS YOUR NORMAL ITEMS OF THE UNFUNDED MANDATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'LL SEE A BILL POP OUT THAT WILL JUST I DON'T KNOW, REARRANGE THE ENTIRE JUVENILE JUSTICE FUNDING SYSTEM, THAT'S HAPPENED, AS YOU KNOW. SO, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THOSE THINGS. FROM A PROACTIVE STAND .I DO THING THAT THE VAB ITEM IS WORTH PURSUING, BUT IT'S A REALLY HEAVY LIFT ON

OUR OWN. >> AND I KNOW TRACY'S LOBBY GROUP ADDRESSED THIS SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. I WAS SURPRISED HE DIDN'T MENTION IT WHEN IT GOT UP TO THE DELEGATION MEETING.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY MORE IMPORTANT FOR THEM THAN IT IS FOR US, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

>> AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROPERTY APPRAISAL TYPE BILLS FLOATING AROUND. SO THERE MAY BE SOMETHING TO ATTACH TO, OR

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> I ALWAYS LIKE TO PUT SOMETHING IN THAT THEY CAN DO WITHOUT SPENDING A TON OF MONEY.

THE MONEY MAY GET GOBBLED UP SOMEHOW, AND MAY BE THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT ELSE CAN I DO FOR YOU, AND WE GO, IT'S A POLICY

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>> IT HAS TO BE TREATED AS A MATTER OF FAIRNESS, I THINK.

BECAUSE THEY'RE EXTREMELY FEE AND TAX ADVERSE. AND I'VE SEEN CAMPAIGN MAILERS WHERE THEY'VE CALLED VERY MINOR THINGS TAXES OR FEES, AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THESE GUYS GET A LITTLE GUN SHY.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO SLOW DOWN THE AVEALANCHE HERE. I WOULD B OPEN TO REWORDING THAT SO THAT IT DOESN'T SAY FEE. BUT, THE PROBLEM IS THE CORPORATE ENTITIES ARE KILLING US WITH THE VOLUMES, AND THEY DO IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COST THEM ANYTHING, I

WOULD DO THE SAME THING. >> IT MAY BE A SOLUTION WHERE THEY COULD PUT SOMETHING INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT IF THEY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THOSE WERED ADJUSTED

DOWNWARD. >> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALL THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL, FRANKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROPERTY APPRAISER WHOSE BEEN ON TOP OF IT.

>> SO, THAT MAY BE AN OPTION TO LOOK AT THAT WERE THE LEGISLATURE DOES NOT NECESSARILY INCREASE THE FILING FEE BUT REQUIRE SOME AMOUNT TO BE PHOT INTO ESCROW IF YOUR GOING TO CHALLENGE AND IF YOU ARE UNSUCCESSFUL. BECAUSE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKS AT LOSER PAY TYPE THINGS WITH THE COURT SYSTEM THIS YEAR THAT, DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP TOO MUCH.

>> THE TRIAL LAWYERS NEED TO GET UNDER CONTROL.

>> THERE'S STARTING TO BE A BUZZ ABOUT IT FOR SURE.

>> IT'S KILLING SMALL BUSINESSES WITH WORKER'S COMP

RATES. >> DIDN'T THEY TAKE ADDITIONAL SALES TAX MONEY TO PUT TOWARDS THE UNEMPLOYMENT, OR THE

COMPENSATION POOL? >> YES. THEY DID HAVE THAT FIXED IN THE LEGISLATION AND WE WEREN'T SURE OF THAT UNTIL WE

GOT CLARIFICATION. >> MR. CHAIR, THE CLERK HAD A

SUGGESTION ON VAB. >> SO, IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF. WE HAVE A PRETTY STRONG LEGISLATIVE ARM WITH THE FLORIDA CLERK OF COURTS AND COMPTROLLERS, AND FOR SOMETHING LIKE VAB, IT MAY NOT BE THIS YEAR, SOMETIMES IT'S A THREE-YEAR PROCESS. IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF FOR OTHER ASSOCIATIONS TO SUPPORT OR EVEN CO-PARTNER ON INITIATIVES LIKE THAT THAT EFFECT BOTH. SO, I WOULD JUST INVITE AND JOE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR ASSOCIATION.

WE WORK WITH FARENTINO TO PUT THAT ON THE CLERKS PRIORITY LIST FOR UPCOMING YEARS, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU COULD GET THAT ASSOCIATION BEHIND IT AS WELL.

>> AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND IS THAT WE LOOK TO A BIGGER SCOPE, SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE A HEAVY LIFT, NOT ONLY WITH THE CLERKS BUT THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS, IF WE COULD GET THEM TO ADOPT THAT AS A POLICY RECOMMENDATION, THEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN JUST LITTLE OLE CLAY COUNTY, NOW YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PARTIES LOBBYING FOR IT AND YOU GET A BETTER SHOT OF

THEM LISTENING TO THAT. >> WHEN A BILL'S HEARD IN COMMITTEE, YOU HAVE A PROFORM AND AN ANTIFORM, AND THE MORE YOU CAN HAVE ON YOUR SIDE OF THAT LEDGER, THE BETTER IT IS.

SO, MOST GROUPS SIMPLY JUST GO WAIVE THE SUPPORT, ACTUALLY WAIVING YOUR TIME WAIVING OUR TIME AND SUPPORT OF IT IS

HELPFUL. >> HAS THIS EVER COME UP

BEFORE? THE VAB? >> NEVER ON MY RADAR UNTIL

COMMISSIONER BOLLA. >> I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE IT'S

BEEN 40 YEARS. >> JOE, WHAT OTHER FLAVORS OF THE MONTH SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT HERE, IT'S OBVIOUSLY EASIER TO GO WITH THE WIND HERE, SO TELL US WHAT WE SHOULD BE

LOOKING AT? >> ABSOLUTELY, THE HOUSE HAS TRADITIONALLY BEEN TOPPED DOWN. INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS HAVE A LITTLE LESS INFLUENCE THAN THEY DO IN THE SENATE. BUT THAT'S HAPPENING NOW IN THE SENATE AS WELL, IT'S BEEN VERY TOP DOWN IN THIS CURRENT SENATE PRESIDENT'S TIME. SO, WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT THE TOP-DOWN APPROACH, YOU START ASKING WHAT ARE THE LEADER'S NEXT STEPS? SENATE PRESIDENT SIMPSON IS RUNNING FOR AD COMMISSIONER, SO, I EXPECT HE'S GOING TO PUTTING FORTH ITEMS TO BOLSTER, SOME PRO-FARMER OR PROAGRICULTURE THINGS OUT OF HIM THIS YEAR, AND WITH REPRESENTATIVE SPROUSE, THE

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>> JAIL? >> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT. SO, I'M VERY CURIOUS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS IS IN MAJOR TROUBLE WITH STAFFING AND PAY, AND IT'S A MESS. AND I KNOW THAT HE CLOSED A NUMBER OF FACILITIES, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR PLACES TO USE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE JAIL EXPANSION WHETHER WE SHOULD USE THAT WORD, WE HAVE A JAIL PROBLEM, THEY HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS PROBLEM, WILL THEY LOOK MORE FOR COUNTIES TO BE HELPFUL IN SOLVING THEIR ISSUING OR ARE THEY GOING TO THROW A LOT OF EXTRA MONEY AT THEIR PRISONS?

>> SO, PRESIDENT SIMPSON FEELS THAT THERE ARE SAVINGS TO BE HAD. HE THINKS WE ARE INEFFICIENT AND LESS THAN A MONTH AGO WE HAD A PRETTY BLISTERING PRESS ON THAT. HE HAD IT LAST YEAR TO CLOSE A COUPLE. IT ULTIMATELY DIDN'T PASS, BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT TO COME BACK. THAT'S INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT POSSIBLE PARTNERSHIPS, I DIDN'T CONSIDER

THAT. >> HE WANTS TO COMMISSIONER OF AGRICULTURE, MOST OF YOUR AG COMMUNITIES ARE YOUR SMALL RURAL AREAS WHERE THEY'RE PROPPED UP AND SUPPORTED WITH THEIR JAIL.

BAKER COUNTY, BRADFORD COUNTY, UNION COUNTY, COLUMBIA, DIXIE, BY DOING THAT HE'S HURTING AGRICULTURUAL COMMUNITIES,

THAT' INTERESTING TO ME. >> IT IS, LET ME SEND YOU WHAT HE SAID, IT KIND OF MAKES RIGHT, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THAT'S A CORE CONSTITUENTS GROUP. WE FOUND OUT WITH SOMEONE WITHOUT AN AG BACKGROUND IN THE POSITION. THAT'S THE BREAD AND

BUTTER. >> ON THE AGRICULTURE SIDE WOULD HE BE OPEN TO, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO AND MAY BE TAKE THE FAIR GROUNDS AND PARKS ONE, AND LEAVE IN THE MOCCASIN SLEW. WE ASKED FOR MONEY FOR THE FAIR GROUNDS OVER THE YEARS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT MORE OF OUR MORE TRADITION AGRICULTURE. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LEGISLATURE DO IS TO REWARD TRADITION FARMERS, WHETHER TREE, CATTLE, DIARY, FOOD FARMERS, EVEN THE NEW MEDICAL MARIJUANA FARMERS, THE HEMP STUFF. BUT WHAT THEY SEEM TO BE REWARDING ARE THESE CRAZY AGRICULTURE TOURISM THINGS AND THE SOLAR.

AND I KNOW FPNL HAS A HUGE LOBBY AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO COME AFTER ME, BUT THAT'S HURTING AND TAKING UP GREEN SPACE THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED. THERE WAS A PIECE ON THE NATIONAL NEWS THIS MORNING ABOUT CHINA, THE NEXT COLD WAR COULD BE WITH CHINA AND THE FIRST THEY THINK THAT COMES TO MIND TO ME, IS SO MUCH OF OUR FOOD SOURCE COME FROM CHINA, A LOT OF AMERICANS DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE FOOD COMES FROM, THEY THINK THE GROCERY STORE, SO, IF WE COULD REWARD MORE FRATAL FARMING, FRESH FROM FLORIDA, AGRICULTURUAL THINGS AGRICULTURAL BASED. AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT I HEARD ABOUT IN THE AG. SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. WE ACTUALLY CANNOT IMPORT FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FROM SOUTH AMERICA DIRECTLY TO FLORIDA. THERE'S A FEDERAL RULE BLOCKING THAT. SO, WE'RE GETTING THE SAME FRUIT FROM BRAZIL, BUT IT'S GOING THROUGH PHILADELPHIA AND THEN TO FLORIDA, SO, I COULD SEE FLORIDA MAKING CHANGES IN THAT AREA TO TRY AND OPEN UP THE STATE A LITTLE BIT FOR FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT NEAR SHORING NEAR OR ON-SHORE MANUFACTURING. WE REPRESENT A SHIPPING GROUPED OR A SHIPPING INDUSTRY, WE MET WITH THE GOVERNOR YESTERDAY AND HE IS 100% COMMITTED TO MANUFACTURING, PRODUCING, IN FLORIDA OR IN CLOSER PLACES LIKE CENTRAL AMERICA. SO, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF WE DON'T SEE A BILL ON THAT THIS YEAR. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DIRECT FUNDING TO FARMERS AND THINGS

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FARMING OR AGRICULTURE. >> OR EVEN JUST MORE FRIENDLY.

YOU KNOW, NOT AS MUCH SUPPORT FOR THE JUST, YEAH, YOU COULD PUT SOLAR ANYWHERE KIND OF THING, WHICH I KNOW WHERE THAT COMES FROM, BUT IT'S DISHEARTENING TO THE FARMERS OF FAMILY FARMS, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONS OF FARMING.

>> SO, THERE'LL PROBABLY BE AN AGRICULTURAL BILL, SO IF THERE ARE THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE IN THAT OR AMEND TO IT,

I'M ALL EARS. >> I DIDN'T MEAN TO DERAIL YOU.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SPEAKER'S PRIORITIES.

>> JUST JUMPING ON WHAT I SAID BEFORE, HIS FATHER WAS A COP, HE WAS A FORMER PROSECUTOR, HE'S LIKELY RUNNING FOR STATE ATTORNEY IN THAT AREA, SO, I WOULD THINK ANYTHING FOR THE PRO-POLICE OFFICER, POSSIBLY A ONE TIME MONEY TO HELP WITH SALARIES OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DID WITH TEACHERS LAST YEAR. IPGD SEE THAT HAPPENING THIS YEAR, I THINK THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR HIM. LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, TAKING WHAT THE COVERAGE GIVES YOU, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF THERE'S FUNDING THAT COMES ALONG FROM HIS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM,

AMBITIONS. >> WELL, WE DID TALK TO THE SHERIFF WHEN SHE WAS HERE, IN REGARDS TO MAY BE, AND I KNOW SHE'S TALKED TO REPRESENTATIVE GARRISON, WITH REGARDS TO COMING UP WITH MONEYS. THAT WOULD BE ON A STATE LEVEL RATHER THAN JUST ONE COUNTY LEVEL, BUT MAY BE THAT'S A WAY WE COULD UTILIZE HIS INTERET IN TERMING OF COMING UP WITH MONEY FOR ALL COUNTIES, JUST THE WAY THEY DID WITH THE TEACHER'S SALARIES.

THE QUESTION WOULD BE CONTINUING THE LEGACY COST AND WHETHER THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO PICK THOSE UP OR AT SOME POINT, 3-5 YEARS DOWN THE LINE AND TURN IT OVER AND SAY NOW IT'S YOUR'S, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT PUTS US IN A WORSE SITUATION THAN WHEN WE STARTED.

>> BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

>> EXACTLY. >> BUT IT'S CERTAINLY OF INTEREST TO US, WE WANT TO KEEP A STRONG POLICE FORCE AND PRESENCE. AND IF WE HAVE SOMETHING OF INTEREST DERIVE FUNDS FROM FOR A PROJECT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT COMES TO MIND OTHER THAN EXPANDING THE JAIL. I WOULD DUCKTAIL WITH PRESIDENT SIMPSON HE IS CLOSING THE PRISONS OR WHATEVER HE'S GOING TO DO.

EVERYBODY WORKS THEIR MAGIC IN THE END TO GET WHAT THEY NEED

THOUGHT BUDGET. >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR JOE AT

THIS POINT, QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> GO AHEAD. >> SO, ON OUR LITTLE CARD, I THINK CHARLEY HAS ONE BESIDE YOU, WE TALK ABOUT APPROPRIATE TECTI HOME RULE AND THE LEGISLATION ON THE BROWNFIELD PFAS BILLS IMPACTS. DOES THAT MATTER TO TAKE UP THE SPACE TO COME UP THERE. THEY KNOW HOW WE DON'T LIKE THEM TO COME AFTER

HOME RULE AND THEY DON'T CARE. >> I MIGHT SUGGEST, ON THIS, PRETTY BIG, PROTECT HOME RULE, THAT MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE

I THINK THEY NEED TO HEAR THAT. >> YOU DO?

>> MAY BE AS PART OF THE LOGO, LIKE DON'T TREAD ON US.

>> THE ALLIGATOR. >> HOME RULE OR DIE.

>> LET'S STAY AWAY FROM THAT ONE.

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>> THE EXPANSION OF HOME BUSINESS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THEM NOT REALLY CARING ABOUT HOME RULE. WHEN THEY AUTHORIZED HOME BUSINESSES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS THAT THEY AUTHORIZED IN

CLAY COUNTY. YOU KNOW. >> THAT WAS WRONG.

>> AND, I THINK QUITE HONESTLY, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T OCCUR TO THEM THAT THERE'S, WHAT'S PERCEIVED ON THIS END IS

STEPPING ON HOME RULE, RIGHT? >> SURE.

>> AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO CONTINUE EVEN IF WE DON'T BE FORCEFUL ABOUT IT, IT'S STILL THERE. WE SORT

OF MADE THAT IMPRESSION. >> IT'S FUNNY HOW MANY OF THEM CAME FROM OUR SEATS AND THEY FORGET.

>> YEP. CONVERSATION WITH A COUPLE OF THEM WHEN THEY TRIED TO DO ANOTHER HOMESTEAD EXCEPTIONS I WAS LIKE, GREAT, YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO CUT TAXES AGAIN ON OUR BACK.

>> MAY I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT I'M PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT ANTIVACCINE MANDATES. I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF MANDATES AT ALL

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THAT WOULD BE WELCOMED? >> I THINK THAT THE LEADERSHIP WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AND CERTAINLY YOUR DELEGATION WOULD

LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU ON THAT. >> SET IT UP AS A RESOLUTION.

>> >> JUST THIS AFTERNOON, THE GOVERNOR HAD ANOTHER PRESS CONFERENCE FILING ANOTHER SUIT AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT FROM THE ISSUE WITH OSHA THAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING. THE LEGISLATIVE LEADERS WERE A LITTLE TEPID, I WOULD SAY IN THE RESPONSE, BECAUSE IT'S MORE IN THE PROOF'S IN THE PUDDING, SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT PEN TO PAPER AND WRITE THIS LEGISLATION THIS WEEK.

>> THERE'S A FINE LINE BETWEEN, I'M NOT ANTI-VACCINE.

>> I'M ANTI -- >> MANDATE?

>> TREADING OUR YOUR PERSONAL RIGHTS.

>> SO, THERE'S NO OTHER VACCINE THAT ANY OF US ARE REQUIRED TO GET TO WORK IN AMERICA. PERIOD. AT ALL. YOU KNOW, EVEN HOSPITALS WITH FLU VACCINES. MY SISTER-IN-LAW'S A NURSE AND SHE COULD CHOOSE TO WEAR A MASK ALL OF FLU SEASON INSTEAD OF GETTING HER FLU VACCINE. I UNDERSTAND THE MILITARY IS DIFFERENT.

>> THEY DIDN'T ASK ME. I DON'T KNOW WHY.

>> THAT'S NOT QUITE TRUE, MY WIFE WORKED AT ASCENSION HOSPITAL FOR 35 YEARS BOTH IN CONNECTICUT AND FLORIDA AND IT WAS PUT TO HER THAT SHE NEEDED A FLU SHOT EVERY YEAR.

>> SHE WAS REQUIRED TO GET IT? >> YES.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> ALTHOUGH I AGREE WITH YOU IN TERMS OF THE MANDATE AND I KNOW THE GOVERNOR IS STRONGLY ON THIS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUSH THE LEGISLATURE TO COME THROUGH ON. BUT, I THINK IT'S A VERY EMOTIONAL ISSUE AND DIVISIVE ISSUE AT THIS POINT IN TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THINK OPPOSITE OF YOU AND WE'RE REPRESENTING EVERYBODY. SO, I WOULD HATE TO STEP INTO AN AREA THAT CAUSES US TO OF UNDUE ANXIETY BECAUSE WE TAKE THAT STANCE. I WILL THINK WE WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS OUT OF THE SPECIAL SESSION AND WE COULD CERTAINLY DISCUSS IT AGAIN BECAUSE THEY MAY TAKE THE ONNUS OFF OF US. THEY MAY. BECAUSE OF THAT EMOTIONAL ASPECT OF THAT.

>> YEAH, AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD ADVICE. AND ALSO, I THINK, COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW THEM VERY WELL, OUR LOCAL DELEGATION. LETTING THEM KNOW YOUR POSITION, IT CARRIES A LOT

OF WEIGHT. >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AND I WOULD

RECOMMEND DOING THAT. >> I'VE BEEN ASKED BY SOME BOCC EMPLOYEES, I WON'T SAY WHERE THEY WORK, BUT I'VE BEEN ASKED, YOU KNOW, WOULD I SUPPORT THAT. AND I WOULDN'T FROM OUR OWN EMPLOYEE'S STANDPOINT, BUT THAT'S JUST ME. JUST ONE

PERSON. AND THANKS FOR THAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR JOE IN TERMS OF SPECIFICS AS FAR AS ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE WORTH

WHILE? >> I THINK WE'LL DO A WEEKLY REPORT RATHER THAN INDIVIDUAL BILLS, AND WE'LL FILL IN QUESTIONS AS A RESULT OF THOSE. ANY BILLS THAT WE'RE TRACKING WE'LL GET OUT A REPORT ON USUALLY, SOMETIME DURING THE WEEKEND, HONESTLY, BUT WE'LL GET SOMETHING OUT WEEKLY TO YOU FOR EVERYONE TO LOOK AT, REACT TO, AND LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING I'VE MISSED OR SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT EXTRA EMPHASIS ON. BUT IN THE PAST WE FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUAL THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO PASS OR DEFEAT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, WE'LL SEND A RECAP WEEKLY AND GO FROM THERE. AND I THINK,

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>> I WAS JUST GOING IT ASK YOU FOR A REPORT TO KEEP US IN THE LOOP BECAUSE IT'S A FAST-MOVING TRAIN.

>> WITH OUR CLIENTS, SOME PREFER THAT SOME DON'T AND WE'LL DO IT THIS YEAR AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT AND GO FROM THERE.

>> CAN I MENTION TO THE LOBBY TOOLS PROGRAM THAT SENDS THOSE OUT IN BLASTS, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON I'LL GET

THAT OUT TO YOU AS WELL. >> I HAVE TWO THOUGHTS, ONE WOULD BE POLICY. IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY YEAR, TDC IS UNDER FIRE BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE MONEY ESPECIALLY FROM THE COUNTY'S SOUTH OF US, BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO TO LET OUR FOLKS KNOW OVER THE YEARS THAT WE SHOULD KEEP THAT TDC MONEY TO WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO WHICH IS TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE IN FLORIDA.

DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE WISE FOR US TO INCLUDE THAT UNDER

POLICY. >> THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA BECAUSE THAT FIGHT IS NOT GOING AWAY. I THINK WITH THE CURRENT SPEAKER AND THE NEXT SPEAKER, CHAIRMAN RENNER WHO IS FROM OUR AREA, HE'S BIG ON THOSE THINGS, SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP FIGHTING THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING ANNUAL FOR THE NEXT

THREE YEARS. >> AND IT SEEMS LIKE A

NORTH-SOUTH KIND OF THING. >> IT GOES BACK TO HOME RULE AGAIN, RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU GET TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT WITH YOUR DOLLARS. SO, I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY INCLUDE THAT.

>> OKAY. >> AND THE ONLY OTHER ONE THAT I HAD WAS WE TOOK CARE'S ACT MONEY AND PURCHASED BUILDINGS TO PUT UP A BRAND NEW HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS REALLY THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE STATE, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE CLAY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, IT'S THE FLORIDA HEALTH DEPARTMENT AT CLAY COUNTY. AND SO, WE HAVE TAKEN THE CARES ACT MONEY AND ADDITIONAL MONEYS OUT OF ARPA AND OUR OWN CIP TO RENOVATE THOSE BUILDINGS TO READY THEM FOR HEATHER AND HER STAFF, AND IT MAY BE A TOUCHY THING BUT HOW DO WE GO ABOUT LETTING THEM KNOW THIS IS REALLY A STATE FUNCTION.

AND WE DON'T MIND DOING IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE SURE HOUR PEOPLE ARE TAKEN CARE OF. ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD TO OPEN UP THE FAIR GROUNDS TO HAVE APPROPRIATE SPACE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO GIVE PEOPLE INOCULATIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THAT?

>> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE WATCHED FOR 7-8 YEARS, AND I THINK I'VE SEEN ONE OR TWO WHERE THEY'VE HELPED ONE OF THE 67 COUNTS. THEME ISSUE A PRIORITY LIST, AND I THINK CLAY.

>> WE GOT AS HIGH AS FOUR AND THEN SLID BACK DOWN.

>> AND THAT LIST COMES OUT AND IT'S REALLY, THANK YOU FOR THE LIST. I THINK, ASKING IS NOT AN ISSUE, WE CERTAINLY CAN. AND TRUTHFULLY, THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT ONE OF OUR DELEGATION MEMBERS WILL HAVE TO TAKE ON AND TRY AND FIGHT THAT BATTLE TO SEE IF THEY CAN DO THAT. AND I CAN SEE WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO OPEN PANDORA'S BOX. BUT, IT'S SOMETHING THAT

-- >> IT STILL DOESN'T FLY EVEN WITH THE CHAIRS IN BOTH THE HOUSE AND SENATE.

>> I'M NOT SURE WHETHER IT'S WORTH IT, YOU KNOW, DO YOU WANT TO STICK YOUR FINGER IN SOMEBODY'S EYE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ASKED WHETHER OFFICIALLY OR DURING CLAY DAY AND HOLD A SANDWICH BACK FROM THEM. TRY

AND STARVE THEM INTO SUBMISSION. >> I REMEMBER TALKING TO SENATOR BRADLEY AND CHAIRMAN CUMMINGS, THAT IT WAS SOMETHING, THAT I GOT TO TELL, SO MANY PEOPLE NO ON THIS, IT'S KIND OF

HARD FOR ME TO DO MY OWN. >> AND OF COURSE, WE'RE LOOKING AT MUCH MORE MONEY AT THAT POINT, IT WAS LIKE BUILDING FROM SCRATCH, SO THIS WAS 12-$14 MILLION, IT'S CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

>> WE HAVE A GOOD STORY TO TELL, TOO, YOU GUYS HAD A SMART, CREATIVE SOLUTION TO THAT THAT YOU DID IN THE LAST YEAR. SO, I

THINK IT'S WORTH TALKING TO. >> JUST FORGE AHEAD AND FORGET

ABOUT IT AS SPILLED MILK. >> IT'S DONE.

>> IT'S SALT NOW. >> YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. SHOWING WHERE THE ROCKS ARE SO I CAN WALK AN WATER TOO, YOU KNOW.

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>> TO YOUR POINT, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, I GOT A CALL AT 11:00 P.M., SAYING, I NEED A FORM FOR THIS, IT WAS FOR THE FAIR GROUNDS APPROPRIATIONS, SUBMIT A FORM I HAVE MONEY. IT WAS KIND OF REVERSED, SO THAT CAN HAPPEN TOO, AND WE'LL BE READY WITH YOUR HANDS OPEN IF THEY DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> ANOTHER POLICY IS I WONDER IF YOU HEARD ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT. I THINK THAT HAS TO PLAGUE MORE COUNTIES THAN JUST CLAY IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. THE STATEWIDE LEGISLATION THAT TIES OUR HANDS WITH WHAT WE CAN DO IN CODE ENFORCEMENT CASES OR WHAT WE CAN NOT DO. FOR INSTANCE, IF A HOME IS HOMESTEADED, WE CAN'T FORECLOSE ON IT. WE HAVE PROPERTIES WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF LIENS AND NOTHING CAN BE DONE AND THE NEIGHBORS JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. SO, I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A STATEWIDE ASK TOO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S EVER BEEN ANY APPETITE FOR ANYTHING THERE

OR NOT. >> I HONESTLY HAVE NOT HEARD THAT ISSUE COME UP AT THE STATE LEVEL ANYWAY. I THINK IT'S ANOTHER GOOD ONE, THAT SHOULD BE ON THEIR RADAR FOR SURE. I WASN'T EVEN FAMILIAR WITH THAT WHEN YOU SAID IT. THAT DOES SOUND LIKE SOMETHING THAT HAS STATEWIDE IMPLICATIONS.

>> THAT'S ACTUALLY IS A GOOD ONE FOR THE COMMITTEE I SERVE ON, THE HEALTH SAFETY AND JUSTICE COMMITTEE. IT'S TOO LATE TO SUBMIT IT THIS YEAR, BUT WE'LL KEEP IT IN MIND. IT WILL BE WHITTLED DOWN TO THREE AND THAT'S THE THREE THAT PRESENT AT

CONFERENCE. >> I THINK THE SOLUTION MIGHT REVOLVE AROUND THE DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY. BECAUSE A LOT OF THE CODE VIOLATIONS ARE PERSONAL PROPERTY, CARS, BOATS, LYING IN THE FRONT YARD. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE PUT A LIEN AGAINST THE BOAT AND TAKE POSSESSION OF A BOTH. OF COURSE, WHO WANTS A BOAT, BUT IT

HAS TIED OUR HANDS TREMENDOUSLY. >> I WANT A BOAT, BY THE WAY.

>>. THERE WAS A GREAT BIG ONE LEFT ON, I THINK IT WAS, A ROAD IN KEYSTONE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, BECAUSE NOBODY WOULD GO GET IT, LIKE REAL BIG, LIKE BELONGS IN THE

ST. JOHN'S RIVER. >> HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM?

>> I'M DONE. I LEARNED MY LESSONS. ANYTHING ELSE FOR JOE

AT THIS TIME? >> I KNOW YOU'RE STICKING AROUND A BIT LONGER AS WE TALK ABOU ABOUT THE SPECIFICS. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE TEAM

WORKING ON THIS. >> CHARLEY, DO YOU HAVE

ANYTHING TO WRAP UP WITH? >> NO, SIR, I THINK WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A GENERIC REQUEST TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND CERTAINLY AT THE NEXT MEETING WHEN IT'S A VOTING MEETING WE CAN DEAL WITH SPECIFICS. BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO GET THIS DONE EARLY SO THAT WE COULD GET WORKING EARLY.

>> SO, HOW ARE YOU THINKING OF LOOKING AT THIS IN TERMS OF -- WAIT UNTIL HE'S DONE WITH THE ATTORNEY.

>> ESSENTIALLY, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR US TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING IN TERMS OF ANY CHANGES TO WHAT WE HAVE

HERE? >> YES, SIR. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK LOOKING AT THIS, I'VE TAKEN A BUNCH OF NOTES AND I CAN SUMMARIZE WHAT I'VE HEARD, SO, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE LEFT HERE, 9, NOVEMBER, THE AGENDA'S OUT, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE I CAN'T BRING IT UP DURING MY COMMENTS OR COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS TO ADDRESS THIS. I WOULD SEEK APRPROVAL FOR THE 23D OF NOVEMBER. IT GIVES TIME TO ORGANIZE THIS A BIT BETTER AND I HAVE QUICK SUGGESTIONS AND LOOK FOR CONSENSUS. AND WE'LL GO FORWARD WITH IT AND HAVE IT AND BE ABLE TO PRODUCE IT IT IN TIME WE'LL HAVE THE WHOLE MONTH OF DECEMBER TO GET THEM PRINTED AND PRODUCE THEM. WE'LL TALK ABOUT

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AND THEN, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING, PRIMARY SECONDARY, JUST HAVE APPROPRIATIONS, POLICY, OBVIOUSLY, LARGER FONT. I HEARD THAT LOUD AND CLEAR, AND IT WILL GIVE US ROOM TO ADD MORE. I WOULD ASK, MAY BE, JUST, THE FRONT IS THE FRONT, IF WE WANTED TO TRY AND INCORPORATE THE MUNICIPALITIES I COULD TRY AND DO THAT THIS YEAR AND IF YOU COULD GIVE ME A BYE ON THAT, I COULD DO IT NEXT YEAR I THINK IT WILL BE EASIER TO DO. HIGH/LOW PRIORITY, I TALKED ABOUT THAT. VAB. I LOOKED AT THE VAB, IT WILL BE AT DISCUSSION BUT ADDRESS INCREASED VOLUMES OF APPLICATIONS. MAY BE IT MORE GENERIC WHERE IT DOESN'T FORCE A FEE OR SOME SORT OF POSSIBILITY OF ADDRESSING A TAX.

COMMISSIONER CONDON, AGRICULTURE, BREAKOUT AGRICULTURE, AND PERHAPS FOCUS ON SUSTAINABILITY BY PROVIDING SUPPORT TO LOCAL FARMERS AND PRODUCTION, THAT MAY BE ONE AND I'LL HAVE THAT ON THERE AND THAT COULD BE UP FOR A VOTE AND DISCUSSION. THAT WAY, I'VE BROKEN OUT THAT PART. TOURISM DOLLARS, I'LL TRY AND DEVELOP A COMMENT ON THAT. AND THE FINAL ONE WAS CODE ENFORCEMENT. IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD WE'LL TRY TO ADD THAT ONE TO POLICY IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD. CLERK SUPPORT ON THAT, I'LL WORK WITH THE CLERK OFFLINE AND OBVIOUSLY WITH JOE EARN THAT TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT ON MULTIPLE PATHWAYS. AND GOING TO DESTIN AND MAKE SURE WE CARRY THE WATER ON THAT ESPECIALLY FOR THE VAB. AND THEN, I THINK LET ME MAKE SURE, I HAD SOME OTHER NOTES HERE. AND THEN THE COMMITMENT.

I'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AND ASK CHARLEY TO PROVIDE YOU WHAT KIND EVER AREAS OR DOCUMENTS THAT CAN BE SENT TO YOU DIRECTLY TO YOUR E-MAIL DIRECTLY FROM THE TOOL SO YOU'LL KNOW WHATEVER THAT TOPIC MAY BE WE CAN PROBABLY SET THAT UP OR CHARLEY WILL DO THAT MANUALLY AND SEND IT. AND TO HEAR FROM SUNSHINE, CHARLEY WILL SEND TO THE BOARD. PENDING THAT, THAT'S HOW I SUMMARIZED EVERYTHING THAT I HEARD THAT WAS DISCUSSED. IF I MISSED SOMETHING, I'M READY TO TAKE NOTES.

>> GO AHEAD, JOE. >> ONE SUGGESTION, GO A LITTLE

TALLER. >> MORE HIKE A POLITICAL.

>> AND IF WE PUT CLAY COUNTY, CHAMPION OF HOME RULE.

>> YES, SIR. >> WE COULD PUT THAT RIGHT ON

THE FRONT. >> MY VOTE WOULD BE WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE STUFF ON HERE. WHEN YOU'RE SITTING DOWN TALKING TO A REPRESENTATIVE, YOU GOT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND HE'S GOING TO TUNE OUT ON YOU, YOU HAVE THE FIRST THREE THINGS,

THAT'S ALL HE'S GOING TO HEAR. >> BUT HE MAY TAKE IT BACK AND

READ IT OR HAVE STAFF READ IT. >> THE TWO I WOULD MOVE IS PROTECT HOME RULE AND THE LEGISLATIVE PORTION THERE, MONITOR, SO, I WILL FREE SOME UP.

>> THE OTHER ONE THAT OCCURRED TO ME IS THAT THE WATER DRAINAGE

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>> I THINK ONE OR TWO PROJECTS IS WHAT I WOULD DO THERE RATHER

THAN THE BROAD CATEGORY. >> THAT'S GREAT, THE SEPTIC TO

SEWER. >> YES, SIR.

>> DO WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE JAIL EXPANSION YET?

>> WE HAVE THE KAREN, DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE RFP THAT'S

COME OUT? >> AND WE HAVE THE STUDY THAT'S A $10 MILLION DEAL AND WE KNOW THE STUDY'S GOING TO SAY THAT'S

WHAT WE GOT TO DO? >> MOST LIKELY, YES, SIR.

>> YEAH, WE RECEIVED THREE PROPOSALS FROM FAIRMS TO DO THE DESIPS FOR ADDITIONAL BEDS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. THREE PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED, WE HAVE A COMMITTEE OF FIVE, THREE OF OUR OWN STAFF MEMBERS AND TWO FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ARE REVIEWING THOSE AND WE MEET NEXT WEEK TO SCORE AND REVIEW THOSE. WE WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IN THE LAST

BOARD MEETING IN NOVEMBER. >> IMPLEMENT OUR PLAN.

>> AND BUILD IT OUT FOR $10 MILLION. I THINK, CHARLEY, THAT'S ONE OF THE FORMS WE SUBMITTED TO PAYING ALREADY.

WE'RE KIND OF ASKING FOR $10 MILLION ON THAT. A LOT OF TIMES, WE MIGHT END UP WITH $1 MILLION OR $2 MILLION, WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO TURN IT AWAY.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, WE'RE READY TO GO, AND WE HAVE A PLAN

WE JUST NEED THE MONEY. >> SO, AGAIN, WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO WAS FOR THE ARCHITECT FIRM TO COME IN AND EXPAND THE JAIL FOR THE EXTRA 46 BEDS.

>> $4.8 MILLION? >> RIGHT.

>> THANKS KAREN. >> AND THEN WE'LL DO THE STUDY

FOR THE FULL EXPANSION. >> THAT'S UPCOMING.

>> SO WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER.

>> BUT THAT'S THE $10 MILLION NUMBER. WE HAVE THE 4.8

COVERED, RIGHT? >> YEAH.

>> AND THE $10 MILLION CAME FROM THE STROLO COMPANY?

>> AND THAT WAS KIND OF TOUCHY. >> IT'S A WAG.

>> YES, SIR. >> SO, WE WERE GOING TO DO A

STUDY WITH ARPA FUNDS FOR THAT. >> THAT WILL BE FORTH COMING.

>> GOT IT. >> AND THEN THE BROAD BAND INITIATIVE, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO ASK FOR?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE GOING TO DO, I JUST THINK TALKING ABOUT BROAD BAND INITIATIVES ARE IMPORTANT TO US, THEY FUNDED THAT STUDY. THEY LIKE STUDIES. AND, WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL, THEY'RE ALL MOVING SO SLOW, BROAD BAND ISSUES ARE GOING TO BE SOLVED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT WHAT TO SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR, BUT, I THINK THAT'S THE POINT OF THE ACCESS TO 67.

>> SO, WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN RFP ON THE STREETS, I'M GOING TO BE VAGUE ON MY COMMENTS. WHEN THE RFP COMES BACK, IT IDENTIFYING FIBERS IN THE COUNTY AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY TELL US HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS IN THESE AREAS. TO THE COMMISSIONERS POINT, I THINK AT THAT POINT, NOW, YOU'VE PUT MONEY BEHIND IT AND IT WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE STATE AND SAY, HEY, WE HAVE A PLAN. WE KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND HERE'S HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS. NOW YOU HAVE A DOLLAR FIGURE, AN AREA, AND SHOVEL-READY.

>> EXACTLY. >> AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE

HEADING. >> AND I DO EXPECT THAT'S AN AREA WHERE WE COULD UTILIZE OUR MOST RECENT MEMBERSHIP INTO THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. BECAUSE THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL HAS BROAD BAND AS AN INITIATIVE AND COMMISSIONER HARVEY FROM PUTNUM COUNT CHAIRS ACCESS 67. I THINK IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE REAL MEASURES THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH OUR SOUTHWEST WITH BRADFORD, SOUTHEAST IN PUTNUM,

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DISTRICT OF HAVING THOSE ISSUES. >> EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BUT IT'S NOT A ONE SOLUTION SOLVE THE PROBLEM SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE AT A LOCAL LEVEL SAYING HERE'S WHERE WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM HERE VERSUS, WE'RE GOING TO RUN WIRE THROUGHOUT THE IT ENTIRE STATE. THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

>> WE HAVE THIS NUMBER TWO ON OUR PRIMARY APPROPRIATIONS LIST AND WE COULDN'T DO THIS FOR TWO YEARS YET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW

WHAT IT IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO. >> WHEN'S THE RFP COMING BACK?

>> IN 30 DAYS. >> IN 30 DAYS, WE'RE BRINGING TO THE BOARD, HERE'S YOUR SOLUTIONS WITH HOW TO SOLVE THESE AREAS. I THINK WITH YOUR LEGISLATIVE SESSION COMING UP, THE TIMING WILL NOT BE OFF TO SAY, HERE'S THE ANSWER.

>> WILL WE BE READY TO ROLL IT THAT OUT AND SPEND THE MONEY AT THAT POINT WITH ALL THE OTHER GROUPS THAT HAVEN'T DECIDED WHAT THE SOLUTION IS ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THE LEAP?

>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD GAVE US THE GREEN LIGHT TO

DO. >> I MEAN, WE PUT MONEY AWAY FROM ARPA TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND IF IT WORKS, PRIOR TO GOING INTO THE SILENT PERIOD WITH THE RFP, I TALKED TO ONE DIGITAL PROVIDER THAT WAS WILLING TO COME IN WITH MONEYS. SO, I THINK, THE ANSWER IS YES. IF WE THINK IT WORKS, IF TROY AND HIS PEOPLE THINK IT WORKS THEN WE MOVE FORWARD AND IT MAY ONLY BE IN ONE AREA BUT AT LEAST IT'S ONE MORE AREA THAT WOULD HAVE

BROAD BAND. >> IF WE IDENTIFY THE PROJECT, WE CAN ASK FOR FUNDS FOR IT. SO, IF IT ENDS UP CLAY HILL IS THE MORE FEASIBLE TO GO. I THINK THE MORE SPECIFIC WE CAN GET, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THE NEBULOUS BROAD BAND. THERE ARE SOME OF THESE LARGE COMPANIES, COMCAST, ATT THAT ARE LOBBYING AGAINST THE LOCALLY FOCUSED SOLUTIONS THAT AREN'T SCALEABLE FOR LARGER AREAS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL. LOOK, THEY GAVE, COMMISSIONER RENNINGER, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THAT COMPANY THEY GAVE ALL THOSE

CONTRACTS TO THAT'S BANKRUPT? >> WINSTREAM.

>> BUT, YOU KNOW, AND IN THOSE SAME GRANTS, THEY GAVE THOSE TO WINSTREAM AND SOME TO THE SPACE LINK, ELON MUSK DEAL OR WHATEVER, BUT THEY HAVE 20 YEARS TO DO IT, THEY HAVE 10 YEARS TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND 10 YEARS TO IMPLEMENT IT. I'M THINKING, BETA DAYS AND LOOK WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH STREAMING, I MEAN, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'LL BE DOING. IT WILL PROBABLY BE A SCAN OF SOME SORT.

>> I JUST THREW THE REST OF MY FLOPPY DISKS AWAY.

>> DID YOU PUT THEM IN A MUSEUM?

>> THE PROGRAM, I ASSUME, $250,000, WHAT IS THAT FOR, IS THAT GOING TO KEEP THE THING GOING?

>> THAT TAKES US BACK TO THE PREVIOUSLY YEAR. THEY WENT FROM

250 TO 135. >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, BUT I THOUGHT THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS FROM OH ONE OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THEY ASKED FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE

TOLD WAS NECESSARY. >> SO, WHAT KEIND OF HAPPENED WITH THAT, FIRST OFF THE 250 WAS IN THIN AIR. MY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING IT'S BASICRY HOWEVER MUCH FUNDING YOU HAVE, THE MORE

KITS YOU CON SSERVE. >> REPRESENTATIVE GARRISON

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[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

>> I KNEW THERE WAS A STORY, I DIDN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS.

>> THAT WAS IT. >> ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE?

>> CLARK GREEN DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING.

>> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS?

>> ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT'S HERE. UNLESS ONE OF THE STAFF WANT TO JUMP UP AND TEST THE WATT ERIN THE POOL, SEEING NONE, COUNTY MANAGER DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY BEFORE CLOSE?

>> AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND APPRECIATE THE INPUT FOR THIS AND WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS AND I WANT TO THANK JOE AND THE STAFF FOR BEING HERE AND ALL THE HARD WORK THEY PUT IN TO GET THIS DONE. WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD AND BRING IT TO THE NEXT TWO BOARDS.

>> YOU'RE ALL HEADED TO THE CONFERENCE ON THE 17TH AND 18TH, SO, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE IDENTIFY THAT WE'RE STRONGLY BEHIND, WE CAN MANEUVER TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.

>> YES, SIR. >> VERY GOOD.

>> THANK YOU ALL,

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