[CALL TO ORDER]
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>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON WE'RE CALL THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONER WORKSHOP WE WILL NOT TAKE A VOTE ON ANY ISSUE TONIGHT. THIS ALLOWS COMMISSIONERS TO BE ABLE TO TALK IN REGARDS TO REVIEWING THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND WHERE THOSE MONIES MIGHT BE SPENT AND ALSO REVIEW OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION WHICH COMES UP AFTER THAT. SO IF ARE YOU INTERESTED PLEASE DO TURN IN A CARRIED WILL BE GLAD CALL.
[1. Review of American Rescue Plan]
WE HAVE ONE CARD RIGHTS NOW. LET'S GET STARTED WE'LL START WITH REVIEW THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN AND HOWARD WILLYOU HANDLE THAT? >> CHAIRMAN WE'LL HAVE TROY COME UP. AS HE'S GETTING SLIDES READY AND BROUGHT UP ON COMPUTER THE TWO AREAS TO TAKE A LOOK AT ARE INTEREST CHANGED HERE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN TO STATUS OFF AND THEN CIXT P OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT IS TH THERE. AND AS THE PUBLIC KNOWS, JUST SO FOR THEIR EDIFICATION THAT THE BOARD DID APPROVE THE BUDGET MOVING FORWARD CHIN INCLUDED CIP.
THAT CIP WAS BUDGETED OUT AND BALANCED JUST LIKE THE REGULAR BUDGET. HERE TAKING A LOOK AT IT AS WAS BRIEFED DURING BCC IN THE LAST BUDGET MEETING WE WERE COMING TO THE BOARD THIS MONTH HERE IN OCTOBER FOR A VOTE ON OCTOBER 26TH FOR THE CIP FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
USING THE ARP OR AROUNDA AS IT'S CALLED TO INVEST IN FUTURE AND LOOKING AT THAT AND TAILING ALL THE INPUTS FROM THE BOARD TO PUT THEM IN. TROY AND THE TEAM HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB IDENTIFYING THOSE THINGS.
THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY VOTED UPON BY THE BOARD ARE INDICATED AND THE ONE THING WITH ARPA IT'S VERY RESTRICTIVE. THERE'S A LOT OF RULES WITH IT EVEN THOSE IT'S 155 PAYMENTS AS TROY POINTS OUT AND REMIND ME. THERE ARE YOU KNOW CERTAIN THINGS THAT CAN BE USED FOR AND THIS KIND OF AUGMENTS OUR CIP BUDGET IN THE REVENUE STREAMS THAT WE HAVE TO USE TO FUND THOSE PARTICULAR PROJECTS.
SO I THINK WITHOUT FURTHER ADIEU IT'S THERE AND M MR. CHAIRMAN IF YOU LIKE HE WILL START THE BRIEF.
>> GO AHEAD FIRST SLIDE. >> SO ON AUGUST 24TH THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS APPROVED MOVING FORWARD WITH CERTAIN PROJT OUT OF ARP FUNDING AND SO THAT WAS $2 IT MILLION BROAD BAND AND 4.8 JAIL IMPROVEMENTS AND 4.7 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH REP VACATION AND 2 MILLION TO THE COUNTY HEALTHCARE PLAN REIMBURSEMENT.
YOU NOTICE TWO ITEMS ASTERISK THOSE ARE ITEMS IN THE CIP THAT WILL BE MOVED OUT WHEN YOU SEE THE CIP BRIEF.
THAT WAS A TOTAL OF 14.8 MILLION TLAVRMENTSZ HERE'S A LIST OF OTHER PROPOSES PROJECTS WE DISCUSSED USING ARPA FUNDING ON. STORM WATER PROJECTS FOR 6 OF MILLION INDGO BRANCH 3 MILLION AND RESCUE UNITS 6 IN TOTAL FOR 1.8 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE TWO RESCUE UNITS YOU'RE BUYING WITH HHS MONEY THAT WAS AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS LAKE PROJECT BY 200,000 THOSE WERE ALL CURRENTLY CIXT P AND PROPOSAL TO TO MOVE OUT OF CIP AND USE ARPA FUNDING TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS AND THUS FREEING UP CIP FOR OTHER PURPOSES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAD CONSTITUTIONAL REQUESTS AT ABOUT 2 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE FOR THE CHECK OF KOR COURT TO IMPLEMENT WORKDAY.
WE'VE HAD SECURITY CAMERA AND SECURITY ISSUES OVER AT THE COURTHOUSE FOR YEARS. AND ARPA MONEY CAN BE USED FOR THAT. WE WOULD PUT MONEY ASIDE INTO.
THERE IN ADDITION WE BROKE OUT 1.5 MILLION TOWARDS SISH SECURITY. AND ACROSS ALL FIVE CONSTITUTIONALS WE HAD ISSUES YOU KNOW MAKING SURE WE'RE SAFE. WE'RE ALL GETTING ATTACKED CONSTANTLY AND WE'RE ALL DOING THE BEST JOB BUT THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THAT AND PHYSICAL SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS AT ABOUT 500,000 FOR DIFFERENT CAMERAS ON DIFFERENT BUILDINGS SUCH AS THIS FACILITY DOES NOT HAVE EXTERNAL CAMERAS NOW PUTTING THOSE ON THIS BUILDING.
OTHER IMPROVEMENTS TEXT OC AND OTHER FACILITIES THAT YOU HAVE THAT YOU WANT TO PUT THOSE ENHANCEMENTS ON.
PARKIVE PROOMENTMENTS, REPAIRS AT $2 IT MILLION.
COMMUNITY PROGRAMS SHOULDN'T SAY 21 MILLION SHOULD SAY $22 MILLION THAT WAS TYPO IN THE SLIDE.
SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND THEN ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES 1.3 MILLION FOR TOTAL OF 21 MILLION AND YOU COMBINED WITH WHAT YOU APPROVED IT'S 36 MILLION 125 OUT OF POTENTIAL 42.5 MILLION FOR ARPA I'LL STOP THERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS ON AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.
>> 36 MILLION OUT OF HOW MUCH. >> 42.5.
>> THERE'S ROUGHLY 6 MILLION YOU COULD USE FOR OTHER THINGS
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IN THE FRUIT TUVRMENT. >> THE SECURITY CAMERA ENHANCEMENT WAS THOSE BE APPLICABLE TO THE SHERIFF
DEPARTMENT AS WELL. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD WHEREVER YOU WANT ENHANCEMENTS
TO YOUR SECURITY. >> ONE OF THE ISSUES I TALKED TO THE LAST SHERIFF ABOUT WAS THAT ST. JOHN COUNTY WAS AHEAD OF US IN DEPLOYING RECOGNITION FOR LICENSE PLATES IN THE COMMUNITY. AND ■I'M NOT SUREWHERE THE SHERIFF STANDS ON THIS BUT IF THERE WOULD BE MONEY AVAILABLE TO ENHANCE THAT PROGRAM, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD AT LEAST, THAT'S WHY ST. JOHN'S IS LOWER THAT CLAY COUNTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THESE ELECTRONICS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN APPLICATION HERE OR IF WE CAN USE THE MONEY FOR THAT. THIS MIGHT AN OPPORTUNITY.
>> FROM ARPA STANDPOINT I'LL LET THEM ANSWER.
FOR AAR WITH PA MONEY IT HE'S HAS TO BE USED FOR SECURITY OF COUNTY FACILITIES SO WHEREAS WE COULD PUT CAM RADZ AND I'LL GIVE A, FOR INSTANCE, AND IF I SAID THIS PLEASE CORRECT ME WE PUT CAMERAS AT SOLID WASTE RECENTLY AND THOSE WERE AABLE TO CATCH SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DOING AT SOLID WASTE WE HAD THE CAMERAS SHERIFF DEPARTMENT HAS ACCESS TO TWO PART ANSWER MAYBE. MAYBE IF IT'S ON A COUNTY FACILITY PROVIDING A BENEFIT TO THE SCHAEFER THEN MOST
CERTAINLY YOU COULD USE MONEY. >> SHERIFF DID YOU WANT TO
COME UP AND ADDRESS THAT? >> JUST REAL QUICKLY.
>> THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY DOES ALLOW US AN OMNI PRESENCE AND GREATER PRESENCE AND IT'S PART OF OUR STRATEGY THIS YEAR TO CONTINUE TO BUILD OUT THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER WITH IDEALLY AT LEAST 16 TO 18 HOURS OF PEOPLE IN SEAT WHO CAN MONITOR CAMERAS AND LICENSE PLATE READERS.
TO YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER BOLA ANY OPPORTUNITY TO ADD CAMERAS OR LICENSE PLATE READERS I'M IN FAVOR.
>> WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING TROY FOR SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY LIKE LICENSE PLATE READER NOT LOOKING AT ONE OF OUR FACILITIES, THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF CIP RATHER THAT
>> SO YOUR SHEET N OUR BOXES DOESN'T MATCH.
I REALIZE IT'S 100,000 OFF AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLIONS 1 IS 00,000 DOES MATTER.
>> SO THE SHEET THAT WE HAVE IS 3 -- 36,227 440.
>>THON I ROUNDED 4.FOR JAIL AN I DID NOT PUT OUT THE 58425 I DIDN'T BRING IT TO THE EXACT DOLLAR FIGURE I ROUNDED TO NEAREST HUNDRED THOUSAND AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT DIFFERENCE
MAN. >> THAT'S OKAY FROM THE PUBLIC STAND POINT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE FOR
EVERY DOLLAR TO THE TAXPAYERS. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> THANKS. >> JUST TO CLARIFY THERE'S STILL $6 MILLION IN ARPA AVAILABLE.
>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 3 36,125 AND 42.5 I WOULD HAVE TO DO WHATEVER THAT PLUS INTEREST WE EARN ON THE MONEY
SITTING THERE IT'S 42.5 PLUS. >> WE HAVE TWO YEARS TO --
>> YOU HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER OF 202 IT 4 TO EXECUTE WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND IF IT'S INFRASTRUCTURE PROJT YOU HAVE UNTIL 2026 TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
>> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. >> OKAY SO YES HAS TO BE COMMITTED BY 2024 DECEMBER 31 AND YOU CAN USE IT UP THROUGH
26 TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT. >> I'LL MAKE A STATEMENT THAT SOME MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BETTER SECURITY IN THEIR CHAMBERS THAN WE DO. THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
>> I HAD A QUESTION. DID YOU SAY SECURITY HAS TO BE
ON THE THE COUNTY PROPERTY. >> YES.
>> OKAY. >> YOU CANNOT USE FOR SECURITY FOR A PRIVATE ENTITY OR A COMMERCIAL ENTITY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE USED FOR COUNTY PURPOSES.
>> HOW ABOUT ON A STREET CORNER?
>> I WOULD HAVE TO READ THE INTERPRETATIONS ON IT.
>> OKAY. >> COUNTY PROPERTY IS ON THE
STREET CORNER YEAH. >> EVERY STREET CORNER IS
COUNTY PROPERTY. >> NOT SGLEVRING JUST ABOUT.
>> YOU COME SOUTH WE HAVE STRAIGHT CORNERS THAT AREN'T.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL THEM STREET CORNERS THERE'S ROAD
>> KOSH TO GO AROUND IT. >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR MAIN ASKED FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION ABOUT
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THE REMAINDER OF THE ARPA MONEY.TWO THINGS STAND OUT TO ME IS NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE A JAIL CAPACITY ISSUE. AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION BEYOND THE RENOVATIONS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW MOVING FORWARD.
THE OTHER THING, TOO, I WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED IS OUR -- OUR DEPUTIES OUR DISP DISPATCHERS OUR FOLK THAT HAD TO COME INTO WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY DURING COVID I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THERE BE CONSIDERATION FOR COVID PAY OR ADDITIONAL PAY. ARPA DOES ALLOW FOR SOME OF THAT. AND WE -- I'M ASKING ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE FOR THAT TO BE CONSIDERED. WE ESTIMATE IT COULD TO BE JUST OVER $3 MILLION FOR THE HOURKSZ 8 OWE 00 HOURS WORKED DURING THE DECLARED STATE OF EMERGENCY
>> WE PICKED TIME FRAME BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND MARCH OF 2020-2021 THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH SOME TIME THAT CLAY COUNTY FIRE RESCUE WAS GETTING SOME OVER TIME DUE TO STAFFING ISSUES. WE HAD THE SAME ISSUES.
AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK ALL OF OUR ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL THAT WORKED DURING THAT SAME TIME FRAME NOVEMBER TO MARCH AND CAME ONE A FORMULA TO PROVIDE THEM ADDITIONAL PAY
DURING THAT TIME FRAME. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SCHAEFER AT THIS POINT?
>> WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE ANOTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER HERE WUS THE CLERK AND CONTROLLER TARA GREEN.
TARA DID YOU HAVE -- >> YES, THANK MUST CHAIR.
SO, LOOKING AT WHAT'S ALLOCATED FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUEST, I'D LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WAS PRIORITIZED. WE GAVE A LIST QUITE A WHILE AGO GOVERNMENT PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE AND IT WAS AROUND THINGS -- THINGS THAT WE'RE UNFUNDED MANDATED TO DO IN THE COURT SYSTEM DUE TO THE PANDEMIC THE VIRTUAL HEARING ROOMS, ENHANCE PRESIDENTIALS WE NEED ON OUR NETWORKS TO SUPPORT ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT, AND I DON'T, BY LOOKING AT THE NUMBER YOU HAVE ALLOCATED COLLECTIVELY TORE CONSTITUTION ALWAYS I DON'T SEE ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS ON.
THERE I WOULD LIKE TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING HOW THOSE
DID NOT MAKE THE LIST. >> ACTUALLY, IN WHAT WAS YOUR TOTAL NUMBER BECAUSE ALMOST ALL THAT $2 IT MILLION FOR CONSTITUTIONAL REQUESTS AND PROBABLY THREE-QUARTERS OF THAT CYBER SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS WERE STUFF FOR
THE CLERK'S OFFICE. >> AND MAYBE THAT WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND IT IT BET SGLER YES.
>> ON THE CYBER SECURITY END WHICH WAS ONE OF OUR -- WE KIND OF BUILT IT -- WE DETAILED IT A LITTLE MORE.
>> RIGHT. >> THE COURTHOUSE CAMERAS ARE
NOT -- THOSE ARE NOT. >> THEY WERE NOT ON YOUR SGLIS
RIGHT. >> BUT THAT'S ONGOING PROJECT.
OUR OAT TOEAL WHEN WE FIRST SUBMITTED WAS 2.15.
>> I'LL TELL YOU COURTHOUSE CAMERA SECURE I IS 600,000 OF THE 2 MILLION EVEN REST OTHER THAN 40,000 WAS FOR THE THE CLERK'S OFFICE. I JUST PUT CONSTITUTIONALS BECAUSE IT INCLUDES A LITTLE BIT FOR THE CONSTITUTIONALS AND CYBER SECURITY WAS JUROR SWITCHES, OFFICE 36 OF 5 ALL THE ITEMS THAT RICK AND I TALKED ABOUT KIND OF FALLS UNDER THAT CYBER SECURITY STANDPOINT.
SO, >> AND I MIGHT CALL ON RICK
BECAUSE HE WORKED LIST FOR ME. >> YEAH.
>> BUTFY RECALL CORRECTLY WHAT WE ASKED FOR FOR WORKDAY THAT WAS TO BETTER THE INNER WORKINGS AND PROCESSES BOTH BETWEEN US AND COUNTY WAS 1.35 RIGHT THERE.
SO, YOU ADD $700,000 FOR SECURITY CAMERAS WHICH ARE MORE ON A SECURITY SIDE, NOT A CLERK OFFICE SIDE, IT'S CONFUSING TO ME NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU THREW INTO SISH SECURITY. SO AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING AND WHAT WE'RE NOT GETTING AND HOW ALL
THAT WAS AGAIN PRIORITIZED. >> I CAN BREAKDOWN -- I CAN GIVE YOU A DETAILED LIST BASICALLY BETWEEN THOSE CONSTITUTIONALS, CYBER SECURITY, PHYSICAL SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ASKED FOR.
>> IS BUILT IN. >> I THINK IS BUILT INTO THE NUMBERS BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT TUESDAY WHEN WE HAVE THE VOTE IF REMEMBER RICK AND I CAN STILL DOWN WE CAN ITEMIZE THAT LIST OUT AND PROVIDE IT TO THE BOARD AND YOU AND MAKE SURE
WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT. >> NOTHING DID NOT MAKE THE LIST YOU JUST LISTED IT OUT SEPARATELY.
>>> I TRIED TO GROUP IT TOGETHER.
>> OKAY. >>> BASED ON CRITERIA UNDER
ARPA. >> IF YOU AND RICK CAN HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> NO PROBLEM. >> THANK YOU TARA ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIEMS OF SOME OF THE ITEMS?
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I KNOW WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THESE IN THE PAST AND SOME CHANGED AND MORPHED INTO OTHER LABELED AREAS.>> WE WERE TRYING TO LINE A LOT OF THIS US WITH THE CRITERIA IN ARPA SO IT FALLS INTO THEIR CATEGORIES.
WE'LL MAKE SURE WE BRING THAT FULL DETAILED LIST TO THE
CLERK. >> DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON
SOME OF THESE IN YELLOW? >> OH.
GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY HERE? WELL, THERE'S SOME -- DO YOU WANT ME.
>> YOU ASKED ME THE QUESTION. >> OKAY.
>> THERE'S SOME HERE I HAVE NOT SEEN PERFECT.
SO I -- 2018 SIDEWALK I HAVE NOT SEEP THOSE BEFORE.
>> YOU'RE DOWN IN THE CIP. >> YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL --
HE ASKED ME TO TALK. >> I KNOW, YOU'RE FINE I WANT
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE -- >> ANY IDEA WHAT THE BROAD
BAND PROJECTS ENTAILS YET. >> WE ARE -- WE WROTE THE -- FINISHED RFP AND ARE FINISHING RFP THIS MORNING AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT THAT OUT AND REALLY IT'S COME TELL US WHAT
>> WE DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT SOMEBODY TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO BROAD BAND AND HE SCOPES THERE MAY BE FOUR DIFFERENT PEOPLE WITH FOUR DIFFERENT IDEA HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WE WANT TO GIVE THE COMPETITION A CHANCE TO COME TO THE TABLE AND HERE'S OUR BEST PROPOSAL TO HOW TO DO BROAD BAND I HAVE MY THEORY I DON'T SEA SOMEDAY UP IN THAT ARENA.
>> ARE WE -- WHILE WE'RE TALKINGING ABOUT BROAD BAND ARE WE SEGMENTING THE COUNTY BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF THE THE COUNTY THAT ARE ADEQUATELY SERVED.
OR -- ARE YOU SAYING WOW LIKE PROPOSALS TO COVER THE ENTIRE COUNTY BUT WE'RE FOCUSING ON FOUR PRIMARY AREAS OF THE THE COUNTY. WE BROKE THE COUNTY INTO THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS PROPER, MC EXTRA.
THE TWO OURS DOCUMENT DOWN? AND MIDDLEBERG FROM BLANDING TO CARTER SPENCER. THAT'S DISTRINKTLY ONE AREA THAT HAS ONE WAY TO SERVICE. IT CARTER SUSPENSE TO 301 WHICH PROBABLY HAS A DIFFERENT WAY IT WOULD HAVE TO SH --
>> YOU HAVE LINES AVAILABLE UP FROM YOU 2818 TO CARTER SPENCER. CARTER SPENCER THE REST OF THE WAY YOU DON'T HAVE FINEER IN THE GROUND.
IT'S GIVING THOSE PROVIDERS WHAT MAY WORK IN AREA THREE PROBABLY WON'T WORK IN EAR FOUR.
>> ALL RIGHT. I GUESS THAT'S MY POINT.
IT'S VERY DIVERSE COUNTY IN THAT REGARD.
>> YEAH. WE'RE KIND OF BREAKING AREAS UP AND SAYING GIVE US YOUR BEST IDEA FOR EACH OF THOSE
AREAS. >> I WAS TRYING TO GET AN IDEA HOW YOU ARE APPROACHING THE PROBLEM.
>> UH-HUH. >> WELL, AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF COUNTY, SOUCHBL GREEN COVE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
>> WE CAN HAVE THAT AS A FIFTH AREAER.
>> THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE, YEAH.
>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ARPA RELATED I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYONE SPEAK TOTY FOLGIZING FOR NOT ASKING SOOP TER JUST OCCURRED TO ME. AND I WONDER WHY THEY WERE NOT PART OF THIS IF INDGO BENCH IS.
>> THEY HAVE NOT BEEN VETTED OUT AS A PROJECT AND THEY HAVE SPECIFIC RULES HOW YOU BID IT IT OUT.
IT WAS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND COULDN'T MEET
THE GUIDELINES. >> WE COULD NOT DO THE RESTS OF THE PINE RAGE -- WE HAVE THE MM REPORT AND THE REST THAT IS GOING TO GO OUT FORBID.
>> FT. REST IS GOING OUT FOR A BID, THEN AS LONG AS WE BUT THE CRITERIA WHY THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN PURCHASING AND COUNTY MANAGER TO DETERMINE HOW THAT'S BEING DONE VRPT YES, YOU KORKS IF YOU BID IT OUT, THAT'S WUCHT HE KEEDZ FOR ARP YOU YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE YOU HAVE TO MEET THE GUIDELINES SET AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL SO IF.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ARPA AT
[2. Review of Capital Improvement Plan]
THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT.HEARING NONE WE'LL MOVE TON REVUVT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
. >> SO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN SLIDE ONE WE JUST BROKE DOWN HOW MUCH MONEY WE GENERALLY AGAIN RITE FROM EACH OF THE AREAS.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT ALL TO YOU JUST SHOWING YOU THE DIFFERENT REVENUE SCREAMS COMING IN FOR IMPROVEMENT YOU'RE EACH ONE. EACH OF THESE COME WITH THEIR RULES IF YOU KNOW. WHEN WE TALK CAPITAL CIP EVERYTHING SEEMS TO WANT TO SET ONE SET OF RULES AND WHETHER IT'S
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IMPACT FREE MONEY THAT HAS RULES OR GRANTS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN RULES THERE'S DIFFERENT RULES FOR EACH ONE.BRIEFLY ON THE SECOND OPTION GAS TAX YOU KNOW THE KEY TO REMEMBER ON THAT IS IT HAS TO BE NEAR CIE AND IT HAS TO BE PART OF YOUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND IT CAN'T BE -- SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT CAN'T BE JUST A PROJECT THAT'S ADDED THAT'S YOUR ABOVE THE LINE STUFF.
AND THEN SALES TAX JUST A BRIEF ON THE STATUTE PUBLIC FACILITIES. IT DOES LIST OUT THE TYPES OF FACILITIES YOU CAN USE THE MONEY FOR AND OF COURSE OUR BALLOT LANGUAGE CAN FURTHER RESTRICT THAT BASED ON WHAT WAS ON THE BALLOT AND IF WE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS OVER THE WEEK, NEXT TWO WEEKS, NEXT MORKS YOU KNOW, WE'LL CONTINUE LOOKING AT THE STATUTES AND MAKING SURE WHAT SELL I BELIEVE AND WHAT IS NOT AS FAR AS SALES TAGS I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ON THAT OR NOT.
>> OH, SORRY. >> ASSOCIATION, SORRY.
>> I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OF SALES TAX.
LEGISLATURE JUST PASSED INTERNET SALES TAX ALL THOSE ARE CALCULATED DOR INCLUDED THESE.
>> YES, INTERNET SALES TAXT COUNTY DOES NOT GET A PORTION OF INTERNET SALES TAX IF I'M CORRECT.
>> YES WHERE DOES IT GO TOY FORGET WORKER'S COME -- SGLP
WHERE DOES IT GO. >> WORKER'S COME SGLP STATE
LEVEL. >> THAT'S RIGHTS I DID READ
THAT. >> THE STATE GOT THE BENEFIT NOT THE COUNTY. SO . . .
>> NOW THAT THEY CAN CUT TAXES AGAIN AND GIVE US ANOTHER HOME
STAYED EXEMPTION. >> NEXT SLIDE STARTING DOWN THE PROJECT LIST YELLOW ARE THINGS THAT CHANGED.
AND THERE'S COMMENTS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THE POWERPOINT TO KIND OF TELL WHAT YOU CHANGED AND Y AND THIS IS YOUR CIE OR ABOVE THE LINE.
WE REALIGN THE TIMING FOR COUNTY ROAD 220 OVER THREE YEARS AND ALL THE MONEY WAS IN BASICALLY IN ONE YEAR.
AND THAT'S NOT A PROJECT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN ONE YEAR SO WE MADE IT MORE WITH REALISTIC.
WHICH WILL HELP WITH OUR ESTIMATES OF CASH FLOW.
PRESIDENTIAL AND THEN RITTER ROAD GOT MOVED ABOVE THE LINE BECAUSE ITEMS PACT FEE PROJECT.
>> I JUST WOULD ADD ON BACKUP DOCUMENT LOOKS LIKE THIS BUT TROY HAD TO CUT OUT THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IN ORDER TO FIT IT ON THE SLIDES HERE. SO WHAT THE PUBLIC SEIZE HERE TROY TRUNCATED TO THE RIGHT OF THAT.
>> ON THE SLIDES WE'RE FOCUSING ON ON THE FIVE YEAR OR FIVE YEAR TOTAL NOT SIX THROUGH STEP OR ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS. THANK YOU, SIVRMENT.
>> NEXT IS YOUR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
WE UPDATED THE COST BASED ON PUBLIC WORKS EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT PLAN. TERESA'S TEAM WORKED ON ACTUALLY PUTTING IN NUMBERS FOR EACH YEAR.
IT WAS A MILLION DOLLARS JUST KIND OF STAT NICK.
THERE AND THEN WE AJUST BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS FOSH PHYSICAL
>> NEXT SLIDE. >> PARKS AND RECREATION THIS IS KHAICHKZ FORCE BARKS AND RECREATION.
THAT JUNE PARK PHASE ONE AND OMEGA PARK WERE COMPLETED PROJECTS AND WE MOVED THE NORTH EAST SPORTS COMPLEX AND MOCK SIN SLEW -- WE MOVED NORTHEAST CON NEXT TO 2021-22 ENTIRE FUMDING IS THERE AND MOCK SIN SLEW UP TAKEN WAS IN OYRT SIX AND WE MOVED TO YEAR 24, 25, 25 TA-26 WE PUT MONEY IN FOR OAK LEAF COMMUNITY PHASE PARK TWO STARTING YEAR 24-25 ADDED THREE LIGHTING PROJECTS BETWEEN LAKES LIGHTING PROJECT WALTER OWED THEM OMEGA PARK WHICH WOULD BE ABLE TO BE REPLACE OR INSTALL LIGHTS AT EACH OTHER'S PARKS AND NEPTUNE PARK PHASE TWOY EXPANSION OF THE PARKING AND A STORAGE BUILDING. AND THEN PUT MONEY IN FOR POTENTIAL EXPANSION AND BOAT RAMP IMPROVEMENTS AT THE MAIN
STREET BOAT RAMP. >> ANY QUESTIONS ON PARKS AND RECS THIS HAS A LOT OF STUFF TO CHANGE.
>> WERE REFLECTING FULL AMOUNT OF THE SPORTS COMPLEX EVEN THOUGH WHAT'S NOT ALL COUNTY MONEY.
>> SO WE BRING IN THE REVENUE AT THE TOP AND REFLECT THE ENTIRE EXPENSE OUT. SO YES, MA'AM.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN IS REFLECTED ON THE REVENUE PAGE.
>> YOU CAN SPEAK TO OR -- MAYBE -- KIMBERLY, YES, YOU CAN SPEAK TOY GUESS SHE GOT A HEADS UP I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION BUT SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE EXHIBIT HALL
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REMODEL AND THE LIVESTOCK PAVILION INSFRA STRUCTURE, BUT THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS AND THE FAIRGROUNDS IMPROVEMENTS TO TOTALING LIKE $3.2 MILLION I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO -- THAT'S A LOT OFMONEY. >> ABSOLUTELY SO THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN WAS A PLAN THAT WAS DEVICES IN 2018.
AND IT'S A $22 MILLION PRO PROJECT.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS YOU KNOW TAKEN PIECES OF THAT WITH BOARD APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD AND CHIP AGO WAY AT THAT PLAN.
AND SO THE FIRST PHASE WAS THE KITCHEN ADDITION AT THE EXHIBIT HALL BUILDING. THE BARN SBULD GRANT WE JUST RECEIVED. AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS T THAT. AND THEN WE HAVE SET ASIDE IN CIP NONGO TOWARDS RETROFITTING THE EXHIBIT BUILDING TWO TO MAKE THAT MORE USEABLE SPACE. IT WAS BUILT AS A GREENHOUSE.
BUT NOW IT NEEDS TONIGHT ENTRY WAY TO THE EXHIBIT HALL THAT HAS THE KICHB FACILITIES SO WE'RE RETROFITTING THAT TO MAKE IT MORE USEABLE SPACE. AND THERE'S -- THERE NEEDS TO BE A CONCESSION AREA WHAT KITCHEN/CONCESSION AREA TO SERVE AGRICULTURE AND LIVESTOCK AREA AND WE HAVE ONE ON THE EXHIBIT HALL SIDE AND THE MIDWAY SIDE.
NOW WE NEED THAT -- THOSE SAME TYPES OF FACILITIES ON THE AGRICULTURAL SIDE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE MASTER PLAN WAS CREATING ZONES.
SO WE COULD HAVE SIMULTANEOUS EVENTS HAPPENING.
SO THAT -- HAVING SIMILAR FACILITIES ON -- IN DIFFERENT ZONES OR DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE FACILITY IS PART OF THE PLAN. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT 2.5
MILLION IS GOING TOWARDS. >> OKAY.
AND HAVE WE GOTTEN ANY ENLIGHTENMENT ON THEIR $60,000 STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE PAID AA QUARTER OF OR A THIRD OF.
>> SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT THEY HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THE COUNTY MANAGE TO REVIEW THAT.
>> OKAY. >> AND IT'S NOT BEEN OFF OFFICIALLY PUBLICIZED IN TERMS OF FINDINGS.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO IS LET US KNOW WHAT THAT IS PRIOR TO THEM ANNOUNCE WHAT IF ANYTHING THEIR FINDING WERE THROUGH THE STUDY.
>> YEAH AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS THE FIRST DRAFT AND THE FINAL DRAFT OF -- OR THE FINAL PROPERTY STUDY WILL NUMBER DECEMBER. SO THEY'RE WORKING TOWARDS THE
FINAL PRODUCT. >> I GUESS MY CONCERN IS TO ALLOCATE THIS MUCH MONEY TO THE FAIRGROUNDS WITH THEIR I USE THE WORD -- I HATE TO USE THE WORD THREAT BUT THEIR CONVERSATION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THAT STRATEGIC PLAN COULD SAY TO MOVE THE FAIR AWAY FROM OUR FAIRGROUNDS THEN WHY WOULD WE WANT TO PUT 3.2 IT MILLION INTO A FACILITY THAT WAS NOT GOING TO GENERATE THAT KIND OF REVENUE FOR THE COUNTY. SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO GET ON BOARD GUNG-HO WITH THIS.
SO I DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
P I UNDERSTAND THAT CAUTION. I'M SAY THAT.
I THINK THAT'S -- THAT'S Y WISE.
HOWEVER IF WE DON'T SET THE MONEY ASIDE, THEN THERE'S NO TELLING HOW LONG WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE DIRE TO HAVING EFFECTIVE EVENTS IN THE
FUTURE. >> WELL AND THE OTHER STHING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS IN THE STUDY.
>> UH-HUH. >> BUT I WOULD HESITATE TO SAY AND I'VE SAID THIS IN TDC MEETING BUT FT. FAIR BOARD ASSOCIATION DECIDES IT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IN ANOTHER FACILITY TO DO THEIR FAIR NROZ REASON WHY WE COULDN'T PUT OUT RFF FOR SIMILAR ORGANIZATION TO COME INTO THE FAIR GROUND
AND HOLD ANOTHER FAIVRMENT. >> TRUE.
>> SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BUT PUT THE BRAKES ON ANY SURPRISE POSITION OR GUESSING AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THAT
REPORT UNTIL WE GET THAT. >> THOSE WERE THEIR WORDS NOT OURS WHEN THEY CAME TO ASK US FOR THE 25,000 TOWARDS THEIR
>> AND YOU KNOW THOSE MONIES DIDN'T COME OUT OF TDC.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE WHAT THOSE RESULTS ARE AND THEN SO THERE'S NO REASON TO GET TOO FAR AED HEAD OF THAT.
AS KIMLERLY SAID IT'S A PLACE HOLDER.
WE'LL KNOW THAT INFORMATION PRIOR TO GETTING TOGETHER AGAIN. SO IF WE NEED TO OR THINK WE CAN NEED TO WE CAN CHANGE THE TIMING OF THAT.
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>> BUT IT ALSO GIVES US AAN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ASKING FOR ANOTHER GRANT FROM AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THOSE GRANTS AND OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE GROUP IS BEEN REALLY GOOD BECOME ABLE TO GET THINGS THROUGH THE AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT F WE HAVE THE PROJECT THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY APPLY FOR THAT.
IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT THEN IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO DO THAT. SO, I THINK IF WE CAN JUST HOLD ON FOR ANOTHER WEEK OR SO AND SEE WHAT THAT INDICATES AND QUITE HONGTLY I THINK WITH THE MARKET THE WAY IT IS AND WHAT WE PLAN TO IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIND PROPERTY FOR MULTI-SPORTS COMPLEX I THINK IT WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO THINK THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE FUTURE PLAN TO GO AND FIND OTHER PROPERTIES JUST KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESS AND THEY'LL NEED MORE PROPERTY OR AS MUCH PROPERTY AND BUILD THOSE FACILITIES TO HOLD THAT. LET'S HOLD ON FOR A WEEK AND SEE WHAT COMES OF THEIR YOU KNOW THAT FIRST DRAFT SPECIAL.
>> ESPECIALLY IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A COUNTY FAIR IN THE COUNTY.
>> DO WE HAVE A LITTLE CORNER ON THE NAME.
>> WORRY ABOUT THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES YEAH.
>> JIM. >> WE JUST DEDICATED NEPTUNE PARK AND NEPTUNE PARK PHASE II.
I DON'T SEE PHASE THREE, FOUR, FIVE IS THERE AA PHASE THREE,
>> THANK YOU. >> WHILE WE HAVE KIMBERLY ANY QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO DISH WANT TO BRING UP MOCK SIP SLEW IF WE PUT IN OUT YEARS I ASKED IF IT COULDN'T BE MOVED INTO THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE'VE BEEN TRYINGING TO DO THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WE'RE REQUIRED BY THE STATE AS TO THE GRANT THAT ALLOWED US TO PURCHASE THE LAND TO ACTUALLY PUT A CLASSROOM AND SOME KIND OF BOARDWALK OR SOMETHING TO THAT AFFECT. SO I THINK THAT MONEY WILL GET US THROUGH THAT AND SOME POINT YOU KNOW OUR LATE FRIEND JAMES HOUSEHOLDER IS LOOKING TO PUT A TOWER ASSOCIATED AS PART OF THAT TRAINING FACILITY TO CLIMB UP AND BE ABLE TO SEE AND THAT'S NOT PART OF THAT MONIES, BUT WE AT SOME POINT BEFORE THE STATE COMES CALLING NEED TO DO SOMETHINGING TO FULFILL OUR END OF THE BARGAIN SO THAT'S WHY I MOVED IT UP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KIMBERLY WHILE SHE'S HERE I GUESS NOT, THANK YOU.
>>. >> TROY? ANY OTHER QUESTIONSTHON SLIDE IN GENERAL? IF NOT WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WE MOVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY SCHAEFER TRAINING FACILITY OUT TO YEARS FOUR AND FIVE DUE TO CONSTRAINTS EVER THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY.
WE MOVED BURN BUILDING INTO FY 20-22 AND THEN WE MOVED THE FLEMMING ISLAND FIRE STATION UP TO YEAR 3 FOR CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU FOUR FIRE STATIONS IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS THREE TO FOUR YEARS AS FAR AS FIRE STATIONS PLANNING TO BE CUKTD. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PUBLIC
SAFETY SIDE. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
GO AHEAD, JIM. YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
>> WELL THE BURN BUILDING WAS NOT IN THE DRAFT I SAW EARLIER I DON'T THINK. MAYBE I MISSED IT.
>> PROBABLY IN OUTER YEAR. >> IT COULD HAVE BEEN OUTER YEARS BUT IT'S MOVED TO NEXT YEAR.
WHERE IS THE LOCATION GOING TO BE.
>> I'LL DEFER TO. >> THAT WAS THE WORKING WITH CAMP LANDING AND THE ARMY BOARDS APPROVAL.
IT'S JUST OUT THE BACK GATE OF CAMP LANDING THE NAME OF THE ROAD ESCAPES MANY ME LAUREN ALWAYS REMINDS ME.
>> I REMEMBER NOW. >> AND IT'S A GOOD SIZE PEES OF PROPERTY AND THAT. THERE'S STILL MORE TO FOLLOW.
WE HAVE TO HAVE AGREEMENT WITH THEM WE'LL MEET WITH THEM IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS TO MOVE FORWARD ON FT. BOARD'S PLEASURE FT. BOARD DID DOES NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN I CAN CHANGE PLANS HERE. IT WAS GIVE KNITLY A BIG HEAVY LIFT AND A GREAT APPROVAL BY THE ARMY BOARD FOR US TO OBTAIN THAT PROPERTY TICH THE KEY TO THAT PROPERTY VIA SOME OTHER ONES THERE ITS LOCATION TO WATER.
YOU NEED WATT TO FIGHT A FIRE AND IN ORDER TO MAKE THE FIRE YOU NEED GAS. AND TICO GAS LINE IS THERE TO CONNECT TO IT TOO. IT WOULD BE A COMBINED OPERATIONS YOU KNOW AND USE MOST LIKELY STATEWIDE IF NOT NATIONAL GUARD-WISE FOR THOSE TO COME N SO AGAIN ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EXPAND UPON THAT VIA MAYBE SOME FEDERAL OR STATE DOLLARS WITHIN THAT FACILITY.
>> GO WE TRAIN NOW IN THE BURN BUILDING.
>> WHAT'S THAT. >> WE TRAIN REALTIME WHICH WE HAD QUITE A FEW LATELY AND THEN WE ALSO TRAIN WE SCHEDULE
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BURNS FOR THOSE OUT THERE. MOST OFTEN THEY'RE ORLD HOMES OR THINGS LIKE THAT THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TRAINS ON AND WE DON'T GO OUT OF TOWN FOR ANY BURN BUILDINGS DO WE LAUREN IF I REMEMBER RIGHT YEAH SO IT'S ALL LOCALLY WHERE WE CAN CATCH AND ANYONE W WANTING TO GET RID A STRUCTUREON THEIR PERSON. >> I'M LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY KIND OF SITUATION MORE SO THAN I MEAN WE HAVE A
PLACES TO TRAIN RIGHT. >> WE DO BUT --
>> TALK TO ME ABOUT THE NEED. >> AND OBVIOUSLY TO MAKE SURE OUR FIRE FIGHTERS ARE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WHEN IT
COMES TO THE BURN BUILDING. >> ABSOLUTELY.
SO JUST BEYOND THE NORMAL DAILY FIREFIGHTER STUFF WE DO USE ACQUIRED STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
IF THEY MAKE CERTAIN PROVISIONS THEY HAVE TO BE HABITABLE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN IN THEM AND EVEN AT THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SOME OF THE MOST DANGEROUS TRAINING WE DO.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT OR IT'S CONTROLLED AS MUCH AS WE CAN MAKE. IT BURN BUILDINGS STATE OF THE ART YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT YOU CAN STOP IMMEDIATELY IF YOU HAVE A BAD SITUATION. WITH THE PLAN GOING FORWARD BRINGING ON THE AMOUNT OF FIREFIGHTERS WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING ON OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IT WILL BE CRITICAL TO HAVE THAT ON A CONSISTENT BASE TOSS BE ABLE TO TRAIN W ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO ISO THAT IS WHAT REALLY STANDS BETWEEN US AND ISO CLASS ONE. I KNOW THAT THAT IS AGREASEIVE ON MY STANDPOINT. BUT IN ORDER FOR COUNTY TO MAKE IT TO CLASS ONE THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ARE IN THE COUNTRY AND THAT WILL ALLOW US TO GET. THERE AND THAT WOULD MAKE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION FOR PEOPLE'S INSURANCE FIRE INSURANCE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT ARE IN THE AREAS THAT HAD THE HYDRANT. AND IT'S NOT JUST.
>> IT'S NOT JUST USED FOR BURN.
IT'S MULTI-FACETED USAGE OF A BUILDING.
>> SO BY SPENDING A MILLION FIVE NOW WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CAMP LANTIC SITUATION AND WE'RE ABLE TO LOWER CONSTITUENTS INSURANCE RATES POSSIBLY.
>> THAT'S DIRECT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS I WANT TO SAY THE NEXT FISCAL DISH CAN'T REMEMBER TROY WILL TELL ME WE'RE WE LOOKING TOWARDS THE 215 PROPERTY BUT THERE'S NOT WATER UP. THERE THAT WOULD DELAY THE PROJECT TAKEN WAS PUT OUT. NOW WE HAVE TO PLACE IT.
EVERYTHING FITS AND WE CAN PUT IT IN THERE.
WE WOULD BE IN CLOSE DRIVING DISTANCE TO THE 215 PROPERTY WHERE WE HOPE TO PUT THE JOINT TRAINING FACILITY FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDINGS. AND THAT WOULD FIT QUITE
>> I HAVE A COMMENT NOT A QUESTION.
AND POTENTIAL USE BY REGIONAL AGENCIES WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE ACTUAL COST TO COUNTY RESIDENT TO HAVE PUTNAM BURN BUILDING, GUN RANGE AND IT'S GREED THEY'RE BRINGING OWN AMMO AND ALL THAT AND WE HAVE HAZARDOUS WASTE CLEANUP.
IT'S NICE TO SAY, YEAH, WE'LL ACCOMMODATE COME ONE COME ALL.
HOWEVER COME. I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO RESIDENTS TO BUR BURDEN THE COST OF ALL THE CLEANUP AND GAS AND YOU KNOW THAT TYPE THING.
>> MR. CHAIR WE SKIPPE OVER ENVIRONMENTAL.
WAS THERE NOTHING WE WILL NEED TO TALK ABOUT ON THAT OR --
>> ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRIKTD FUND THAT CAN BE USED FOR EVLZ
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I DIDN'T PUT IT IN HERE. IT -- BECAUSE THAT MONEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR STUDY AND -- WE ARE GOING -- STILL DOING THAT.>> AND JUST. >> AND TO ANALYZE BOTH AND GARBAGE YARD WASTE AND REC RECYCLING AND IF CHARLIE IT COMING UP MIGHT AS WELL, WE'RE HERE.
AND WE KIND ANTICIPATED SOME AREAS OF WHERE THOSE EXPENDITURES WOULD BE WITHIN THOSE FOLLOW ON FISCAL YEARS PAST THE STUDY. AND THEN MAYBE CHARLIE, ALSO, CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT RECYCLING TOO.
I KNOW HE SENT AN EMAIL OUT. >> YES, SIR.
AND I'LL ADDRESS THAT FIRST SING BROUGHT IT UP.
THIS IS EVERY 16TH OF MONTH WE CENTS ON AUGUST 16TH.
EVERY 16TH SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WE GET UPDATE FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT. THEY LOST ONE PERSON DURING THEIR RECRUITING EFFORTS DURING THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
WHERE THERE WERE SHORT TWELVE INITIALLY SHORT 13 WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM. WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT WHAT OPTIONS EXISTS FOR US. AND I'VE TALKED TO THE MANAGER ABOUT SOME KIND RADICAL OPTIONS BURN BOXES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE IF WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT OUR OWN SOLUTION WE CAN LOOK AT. BUT THIS SOILED WASTE STUDY SAKE CONDUCTED BY S 22 LI AND KESLER TWO OF THE MOST RESPECTED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY'RE ACTUALLY HELPING US TO LOOK AT HOW BEST TO OUTFIT THE COUNTY TO DEAL WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND CHANGE IF DEMOGRAPHICS.
I BELIEVE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU WITH THE OL SOLID WASTE PORTION CENTRAL NORTH PORTION.
COUNTY THEY WILL RECOMMEND WE SHIFT TO AUTOMATIC SIDE LOADER AND DOWN IN OTHER PARTS OF COUNTY LIKE CLAY HILL AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS WE MAY GO TO A REAR LOAD STAY IN REAR LOAD CONSIDERATION BUT WITH TIPPERS AND THINGS THAT CAN GET DOWN ROADS BETTER THE DIRT ROADS BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
BUT THEIR STUDY BASICALLY WILL DETERMINE WITH YOUR APPROVAL, OF COURSE, WHERE WE GO YEAR BY YEAR TO SET UP THE SOLID WASTE SYSTEM IN OUR COUNTY FOR THE NEXT 10, 15 YEARS.
>> OKAY I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHARLIE.
THERE WERE PHOTOS AND YOU SAW PAPERS WHY DIDN'T THEY GET A BUNCH OF YARD WASTE. THEY WERE NOT THE DRIVERS.
THEY'VE GOTTEN -- >> THEY WORPT KNOW WHERE TO GO. IT WOULD BE TOO HARD TO TRAIN AN ENTIRE FLEET OF TRUCKS TO GET TO TOWN AND CLEAN IT UP.
MER ID YAP HAS THEIR HANDS FULL.
THEY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY TO ENTERSER THE MARKET.
THEY SPENT AA LOT OF MONEY TO GET THE CREWS HERE.
AND I'M CONCERNED THE NUMBERS ARE STILL FOLLOWING.
SO LIKE I SAID, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES PROACTIVELY.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET OUT OF THIS FOR A WHILE.
>> CHARLIE I THINK WASTE MANAGEMENT LOST A NUMBER OF DRIVERS FOR MERIDIAN AND YOU'RE PAYING THEM MUCH MORE
ON AN HOURLY BASIS. >> THEY LOST THREE THREE OF
THE DRIVERS FROM. >> WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH 30 OR LESS THAT'S MORE THAN SO%.
>> WHAT IS THE FREQUENT SIFT RECYCLING LOCATIONS BEING --
>> I CAN SEND YOU THAT IN WRITING MA'AM.
WE POST TODAY ONLINE. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T -- WE GOT UP TURNAL THAT CURVE TRACK IT BUT EACH SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT AND EVERYBODY IS GETTING HIGH TRAFFIC AREAS LIKE LIBRARY AND FLEMMING ISLAND AND THE PARK ARE BEING DUMPED EVERY DAY AND THEN ON THE WEEKEND WE'RE PUTTING TWO BOXES OUT THERE SO CAN HOLD THEM THROUGH. USUALLY, WE'RE REACTING AS BEST WE CAN TO THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE GETTING.
BUT SOMETIMES WE GET INCREASE IN FLOW AND CAN'T PREDICTS.
IT AND GENERALLY SPEAKING I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE STAFF AND WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THE WAY THEY HANDLED.
IT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT BUYING FOUR OF OUR OWN CONTAINERS TO ADD ADDITIONAL CONTAIN TORZ PUT OUT THERE TO CLEANUP THE SPOTS THAT ARE GOING LIKE PLANTATION OAKS IS
GROWING A LITTLE BIT. >> I HAVE A COMPLAINT OVER THE WEEKEND ABOUT SUNRISE PARK AND KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND IT DOES
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LOOK REALLY BAD THERE'S STUFF ALL AROUND.IT AND. >> IF THEY CALL IT INTO US THAT DAY WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY COME DOWN AND CLEANUP THE AREA AND BRING THE RECYCLING BACK AND EMPTY THE RECYCLING AND
CLEANUP THE AREA. >> IT WAS SUNDAY I WAS NOT
BUT I -- I DIDN'T KNOW I SAID I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.
>> SURE. >> MILTON SOMETHING FOR US?
>> YES, COMMISSIONER SO SUNRISE I GOT A CALL ABOUT -- FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CITY OF KEYSTONE ABOUT TK OVERFLOWING AND WE REACHED OUT TO WASTE MANAGEMENT. WE ALSO SENT OTHER STAFF DOWN AND CLEANED UP ALL THE OVERFLOW AND WASTE MANAGEMENT GOT CONTAINERS EMPTIED. I'M WAITING ON A REPLY BACK.
THERE WAS SOME KIND OF HICK-UP THOSE SHOULD ARE BEEN DUMPED PRI. THERE WAS INTERNAL HICK-UP AT WASTE MANAGEMENT WE WERE NOT AWAIVER.
BECAUSE GENERALLY THOSE CONTINUEERS ARE -- HAVE BEEN THAT'S THE FIRST TIME WE HAD THAT OVERFLOW ISSUE AT THE
KEYSTONE LOCATION AND WE'RE -- >> WELL AN INDICATION OF WHAT'S PROBABLY TO COME THE CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS HAS A SEPARATE CONTRACT THAT THAN WE DO RIGHT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT THEY PIGGYBACK ON PART OF OURS AND.
>> RESIDENTIALLY THEY PIGGYBACK ON OUR RESIDENTIAL
>> THE CITY HAS AN EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT FOR COMMERCIAL SERVICES. SO THE DUMPSTERS AND ALL.
>> YES. >> THAT IS TOTALLY SEPARATE
FROM ANYTHING WE HAVE. >> OKAY. SO, THEY -- THEY -- BUT THEIR CONTRACT RESID RESIDENTIAL, THEY EXTEND TODAY FOR ONE YEAR WHILE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ATHEY'RE GOING DO I GUESS THIS IS WHAT THE CITY -- MAYOR TOLD ME. AND SO, THE COMMERCIAL CONTRACTS, WASTE MANAGEMENT WORK NOT EXTEND AT THE CURRENT RATES AND THEY WENT UP QUITE EXPONENTIALLY RATES WENT UP AND SO IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE NOW MAYBE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE TRYING -- THERE'S SOME COMMERCIAL PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND PLACES TO PUT THEIR GARBAGE.
BECAUSE ONE WITH OF THE COMPLAINTS WAS THAT THERE WAS HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE IN THAT RECYCLING CONTAINER.
SO I MEAN, I AM NOT SUGGESTING BUT IT IT WAS NOT -- I GUESS WASTE MANAGE SMENT NOT BEING A VERY GOOD CORPORATE PARTNER FOR THE BUSINESS AND CITY OF KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND THEN NOW THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER PLACES.
>> NOW ONE THING WITH THE RECENT ADDITIONS OF THE FRANCHISE HES THE NEW COMPANIES THAT CAME N. OFF THOSE, TWO OF THEM ARE -- OFFER FRONT LOAD SERVICE WHICH IS GOING TO ADD COMPETITION FOR THAT PARTICULAR SEMINGT AND I'LL MAKE SURE TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE CITY
MANAGER. >> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE
THAT. >> YOU KNOW SO THERE'S A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WILL BE IN THE MARKETPLACE THAT THEY CAN
POTENTIALLY GET BIDS FROM. >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THANKS. >> ALL RIGHT THANK YOU CHAIR SGLAN I MENTIONED THIS AND HEARD WHAT'S GOING ON AND HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO LYNN ABOUT THAT. AND ASK MILTON AND CHARLIE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. COUPLE THINGS, TOO, FIRST ONE S. ILLEGAL ANY ILLEGAL DUMPING WE HAVE DEPUTIES THAT GO OUT AND CHECK ON THESE THINGS. SO I WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT. AND SECOND THING WOULD BE REALLY WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC FOR COMING OUT AND USING THESE FACILITIES. IT IS GREET RECYCLE ■AND HAVE THESE BINS HERE THAT ARE FULL. AND ALL THAT NEEDS TO DO IF THEY'RE OVERFLOWING OR THEY'RE STARTING TO REACH THE PEAK JUST GIVE US A CALL AND WE PUT THE NUMBERS ON IT'S ON OUR WEB SITE AND WE'LL BE OUT IMMEDIATELY WITH OUR OWN STAFF AND ALSO WASTE MANAGEMENT KNOW TOO.
THANKS TO THE PUBLIC ALSO. >> GOOD.
IF WE CAN GO BACK TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
I WAS GOING TO BRING UP BEFORE WE GOT INTO THE BURN BUILDING AND THEN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES IS THAT WE'VE BEINGED FOR SHERIFF TRAINING FACILITY AND OTHER THINGS AND WE HAVE NOT ACCOUNTED THERE AND THERE'S A PLACE HOLDER BUT THERE'S NO DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH IT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE NEED IT OR NOT OR HER BUDGET WORKING WITH IT JAIL EXPANSION STUDY OR ANY MONIES WE SET ASIDE IN THE WAY TO GET TO ENHANCING THE JAIL AFTER YOU KNOW WE'VE GIVEN THEM 4.8 AND WHAT WILL WE DO WHEN WE GET TO THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
DO WE KEEN OTHER FINGERS CROSSED THAT SOMETHING COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR -- WE NEED TO HAVE A THOUGHT PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
>> I THINK IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S DIRECTION WE WOULD FUND THAT OUT OF ARPA BECAUSE ARPA CAN BE USED FOR JAIL STUDIES AND JAIL IMPROVEMENTS AND RATHER THAN USING YOUR MORE CIP WHICH IS MORE FLEXIBLE THAN USING ARPA FUNDS. I WOULD SUGGEST USING ARPA FUNDS FOR JAIL STUDY OR ANY OTHER ITEMS OF THE JAIL AS THE
SHERIFF INDICATED EARLIER. >> SHERIFF IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL
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TO DO A STUDY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TOLD 30 MILLION IS REQUIRED AND WE WERE TOLD MAYBE THE JAIL EXPANSION WOULD BE GOOD FOR FOUR OR FIVE YE YEARS.WHAT'S FACT AND WHAT'S FICTION YOU KNOW.
>> I'LL USE THIS AS REFERENCE AND COPY AND --
>> SCHAEFER YOUR MIC IS NOT ON.
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT THE 4.8 MILLION SHE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE 8 OWE 0 ADDITIONAL BED SPACES RIGHT NOW WE'RE THEY ARE TRENDING OVER 500 DAILY AND THAT IS WITH A LOT OF DISCRETION THAT IS USED ON THE STREET.
AND A JAIL IS CONSIDERED AT CAPACITY WHEN IT'S 80% FULL.
SO EVEN AS SOON AS WE RECOGNIZE THESE 80 BEDS WE ARE PRETTY MUCH AT CAPACITY SOYXT -- YOU KNOW WHATFY CANNOT STATE STRONGLY THIS IS AN URGENT NEED WE HAD THE SOLO GROUP COME IN AND PUT POTENTIAL -- IS SO,000 REVIEW.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF POSSIBILITIES.
EXCUSE ME. AND WE HAVE POTENTIALS ON HERE THAT RANGE FROM MILLION TO 42 IT IT MILLION.
MY STAFF IN DISCUSSING THIS, WE LIKE THE CLOSER TO 10 TO 12 MILLION. IT WOULD ADD ANOTHER 1 OWE 0 BIDS AND THEN WE START THINKING LONG TERM ABOUT THAT PROPERTY OVER OFF 215. SO WE RECOGNIZE 80 BEDS WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO. WE'RE AT CAPACITY AGAIN.
AND WE NEED TO TURN RIGHT AROUND AND PART THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE ABOUT A MODEST EXPANSION IN THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT UNLESS WE CAN GET THE UTILITIES OUT TO 215 KHA I'VE BEEN TOLD IS 2 DO 3 YEARS AWAY.
THAT'S WHERE WE STAND. AND I CAN PASS THIS AROUND.
AND THAT'S THE SOLO GROUP THAT CAME IN AND DID SUPERFICIAL REVIEW OF EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT.
>> WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO DO A REAL PLAN AT SOME POINT.
>> AND THE REASON WE WANTED -- WE WANTED STROLO TO DO THEY'RE THE JAIL BUILDING EXPERTS AND TELL US IS IT REASONABLE TO EVEN CONSIDER BUILDING IN THIS FOOTPRINT OR DO WE NEED TO START OVER. DO WE NEED TO SCRAP THAT AND START OVER WITH A NEW JAIL. AND THEY GAVE US OPTIONS OF BUILDING OUT WITHIN THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT P THEY SAID WELL HERE'S I THINK FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS ON THERE THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT.
SO THE IDEA WAS TO GO WITH THE MOST MODEST KHOPTION IS ADDITIONAL HUNDRED BEDS WITH A WELCOME TERM VISION IF WE GOT THE 100 BEDS THAT SHOULD LAST 7 TO 12 YEARS WE TURN AAROUND AND FOCUSING IN ON THE LONG TERM PLAN FOR THE 2 IT 15 PROPERTY WITH A WORKING PRISON FARM AND IT'S A LONG TERM.
>> SO EVERY ADDITIONAL 5,000 PEOPLE 2349 KOPTSY WE HAVE 15 NEW INMATES. AND BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE FLORIDA MODEL -- IN THE FLORIDA JAIL BEST PRACTICES A JAIL IS CONSIDERED AT CAPACITY AT AROUND 80%.
>> SO BUT INCLUDING THE PRISON FARM HOW LONG DID YOU SAY IT WOULD LAST. WE HAD A NUMBER --
>> IF RERECOGNIZED 1 IS 80 NEW BEDS THE 4.THE MILLION PLUS MOD OINGT BUILD 180 DIVIDED BY 15, HIGH MATH.
112 YEARS. >> AND I THINK YOU SAID EV EVENTUALLY HOPEFULLY WE CAN LOOK FOR FORM LAST AROUND 20.
>> SO IF WE HAD -- IF WE KNEW -- OKAY IF WE KNEW WE HAD TEN YEARS DO THIS NOW AND HAVE TEN YEARS THEN WE PLAN OUT WHAT WE WANT 215 TO LOOK LIKE AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY -- THAT'S PRETTY NICE PROPERTY IN GREEN COVE IN THE FUTURE WE COULDN'T BUILD A NEW JAIL OR PRISON FARM OR REPURPOSE THAT
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PROPERTY FOR ANOTHER COUNTY BUILDING YOU KNOW THERE'S ALL KICHDZ POSSIBILITIES OUT THERE.>> GREAT. >> FOR BASICALLY WE GOT 4.MILLION NOW. FOR ABOUT 10 TO 12 IT MILLION WE CAN GET 100 BEDS THAT CARRY US THR THROUGH.
>> AND HOW MANY STATE INMATES USUALLY DO WE TYPICALLY CARRY DO WE HAVE ANY.
>> AND ANY QUESTIONS THAT FOR THE SHERIFF.
>> I BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE I THOUGHT ONE I KNEW THERE WAS A NUMBER THAT COULD GET US FRIPT RUM SPOT AND I KNOW IF WE DON'T PUT THE MONEY ASIDE WE'RE NOT GOING TO IB ABLE TO
GET TO HE IPT RUNL SPOT. >> WELL I ASKED ABOUT THE IMPACT AND THEY SAID IT STARTED ALREADY OR --
>> IT WILL BE THIS FISCAL Y YEAR.
WHEN DOES THAT GO OUT FOR THE IMPACT KAREN.
>> WE HAVE TO DO A STUDY BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT A FEE.
>>. >> I'M SORRY ONE NOVEMBER FOR THAT AND THAT WAS OPERATIONAL IN OPERATIONAL FUNDS.
AND THEN THE RFQ KAREN WILL BACK ME UP ON THIS ONE IS DUE ON MONDAY TO -- DUE BACK US TO FROM THAT THAT WE PUT OUT FROM THE JAIL STUDY CORRECT? WHICH ONE WAS IT?
>> THANK YOU. JAIL RENOVATION.
>> J THAT SHOULD GET US 80 BEDS AGAIN THAT WOULD PUT US 492 PLUS 80 PLUS 570 AND WE'RE ALREADY 500.
>> I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO STEP --
>> THIS IS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE THE PARK STUFF FORMER PARK STUFF WE'RE SPENDING HERE OR SPENDING THERE AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A 20-YEAR PLAN THAT YOU GUYS EITHER WE FUND IT OR YOU FUND IT BUT YOU GUYS BUY INTO IT AND YOU CAN PRESENT IT US TO AND WE CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO DAUGHTER IN CONCRETE CREATE. BUT MAYBE WITH THREE STEPS IN.
IT 10 YEAR, 15 YEAR OR 20 YEAR PLAN.
ABSOLUTELY. >> AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT. I THINK WE NEEDED TO HAVE A PLAN.
I ALSO THINK YOU KNOW WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO SHORE UP THINGS BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE TEN YEAR MARK AND HAVE A PLAN. WE'RE ALREADY BEING TOLD WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A POINT WE'LL BE SENDING PEOPLE OUT AND IT WILL COST US MORE PROVISIONS ALLEY THAN IF WE DIDN'T.
SO I MEAN WE'RE SORT OF YOU KNOW PUTTING THE SAND BAGS.
>> BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL. >> PUTTING SANDBAGS UP AND HOLDING OFF THE RIVER UNTIL HE WE YOU KNOW GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WE'RE CLEAR AND SEE WHAT THE
FUTURE LOOK LIKE SO -- >> I WANT A COMPREHENSIVE P PLAN. WE'VE GOT TO STOP PIECEMEALING THIS THE PURPOSE OF THE STROLO REVIEW WAS JUST TO FOR THE EXPERTS CAN WE BUILD OUT THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT.
IS THAT EVEN REASONABLE. AND DO WE NEED TO START FRESH AND THEY SAID YEAH YOU CAN BUILD OUT THE CURRENT FOOT PRESENT THERE'S POSSIBILITIES HERE.
>>. >> IT'S A SUMMARY I TOOK THE BOOK THEY GAVE US AND SUMMARIZED TO ONE SHEET.
>> DO THEY DO EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OF THE STUDY.
>> DID THEY DO EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
IT WAS MORE OF A VERBAL PRESENTATION.
>> THEY DID A PRESENTATION TO US.
>> COMMISSIONER THERE'S YOUR LIGHT BEDTIME READING SO.
>> YEAH I SAYS ON. >> BIG PRINT SO I'M GOOD WITH
THAT. >> ENGINEERING STUDY COMPLETED AND WAS THAT I THINK THAT THERE IS VALUE IN THAT.
BECAUSE WHEN WE -- WHEN TROY TALKS ABOUT IF CONGRESS EVER PASSES INFRA STRUCKTURE BILL INFRA TRUCK TOUR WOULD BE I THINK JAIL WOULD BE PART OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, BRIMS.
>> AT THIS POINT I TOLD YOU THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE
BILL BUT THEY'LL SINSD MONEY. >> IT'S GOOD WHENEVER IT GETS
PASSED. >>P 00 PAGES IT WILL BED
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SOMEWHERE. >> IT WILL BE INFRASTRUCTURE DEPENDS WHAT THEY OKAY. IF WE'RE READY FOR IT.
>> WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT SHOVEL READY PROJECTS IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO KEEP REPAVING THE SAME ROADS YOU KNOW AND ONCE THEY FINISHED 21 PLEASE IN THE LIFETIME IF THEY CAN PLEASE FINISH THE ROAD IN 2021 IS THEN THEY NEED TO LEAVE IT ALONE AND NOT KEEP REPAVING.
>> AND THEY SAY THERE'S ANOTHER TWO YEARS ON -- RIGHT THERE AT 2 IT 20 AND LANDING AND THAT'S --
>> THEY WERE SERIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT DOUBLE DECK IT AT ONE
>> THAT HELPS US GET TO A POINT WHERE WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE SHORT TIME AND THEN LONG TERM WE CAN FIGURE OUT SOMETHING FURTHER. BUT I THOUGHT WE REALLY NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT THAT SINCE WE HADN'T AND THERE'S REALLY NOTHING HERE THAT INDICATES THAT GIVES US A ROADMAP TO GO
TO WHEREVER WE'RE GOING. >> CHAIRMAN ON THAT POINT IF IT POLICES BOARD I CAN SENSE TO BRING BACK TO TUESDAY WE BRING BACA DOPTION OF ARPA IS THAT SOMETHING YOU WANTS TO SEE US INKLOOUD IS FUNDING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE JAIL STUDY.
>> I WOULD THINK SO. AND AT THE SAME SGLIM USHER THAT.
>> AND FROM WHAT THE SHERIFF IS TELLING US WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO WAIT TO WAIT FOR THE STUDY ITSELF.
I MEAN WE'RE ALREADY SHORT. >> SO I THINK SEPARATE -- YOU HAVE RFP COMING BACK FOR 4.8 OR CONSTRUCTION.
>> THAT WILL LASTS US A FEW YEARS.
>> AND YOU WANT TO SEE ARPA AND THEN AGAIN NOT TO ADD TO KAREN'S PLATE WE CAN DO RFP FOR JAIL STUDY AND HAVE SOMEBODY WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON IN RECOUX DOT STUDY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS HALF TAT THREE YEARS F THAT POLICES THE BOARD WE CAN PUT THE MONEY IN TO DOT STUDY SDMRT OTHER ASPECT WOULD BE DO WE CONTRACT WITH FOLKS THAT HAVE ALREADY DONE GROUND WORK TO DO MORE EXTENSIVE STUDY.
I MEAN IS THAT SOMETHING WE PUT OUT THERE AND JUST START
ALL OVER AGAIN. >> I DON'T KNOW UNDER THE ARPA RULES IF YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT IF YOU USE ARPA FUNDS BECAUSE OF PROCUREMENT RULES.
SO KAREN AN I CAN LOOK AT THAT AND FIND OUT.
IF CONSENSUS IS TO TOAD ARPA BEFORE WE BRING BACK TUESDAY
WE'LL ADD FUNDS FOR THAT. >> I DEFINITELY WOULD THINK
>> COMMISSIONER. >> WELL I'M JUST WE'VE HAD TWO REQUESTS TO LOOK AT FUTURE USE OF RAPA FUNDS SO. WE DIDN'T EVEN DISCUTS FIRST ONE.
>> AROUND WE CAN BRING ADOPTABLE --
>> JIM. >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO WAIT UNTIL END THIS MEETING AAND DETERMINE WHAT IT IS WE WANT
THE STAFF TO LOOK AT. >> INSTEAD OF DOING.
>> IN COMBINATION WITH ALL THE REQUESTS.
WE MAY -- WE HAVE HEARD AND MAY SGLEER YES, SIR.
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PUBLIC SAFETY?
>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE SO. PUBLIC WORKS GHEN SLIDE HAS A LOT OF MOVING PIECES TO.
IT AND WE DID RESTORE BOTH PUT RESURFACING BACK TO FIVE MILLION IN YEARS 2 IT, 3, 4, 5 IN YEARS AND THEN IN YEARS 4 AND 5 TO A MILLION AND WE REMOVED ALL STORM WATER AND
DRAINAGE INTO ARPA. >> AND WE HONESTLY TOOK A DIFFERENT PROJECTS SIMILAR SCOPE, SIZE AND USE THAT DOLLAR FIGURE BECAUSE UNTIL NEARING TEAM J FROM TAYLOR ROAD FURTHER TO SDMREEINGT CORRECT.
>> KINGSKINGSLY LAKE AREA AND FROM THE FLEMMING ISLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO CAMING WATERS DRIVE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN TRY TO ANSWER THEM OR GET
>> JUST DESCRIPTION KINGSLY LAKE PROJ WHAEKT IS THAT.
>> SO COMMISSIONER JET WHEN HE WAS OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND DISTRICT FOUR HAD SIDEWALKS NUT KINGSLY LAKE ON KINGSLY LAKE DRIVE AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN MAINTAINED AND IN THAT TIME PERIOD. AND SO NOW, ROOTS ARE GROWING UP AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT SAFE TO WALK ON AND THEY GO OVER AND
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SO NOW THE RESIDENTS WALK OUT ON THE ROAD TO AVOID THE SIDEWALKS. AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REPAIR THOSE SIDEWALKS. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME LE PAIRS HAVE BEEN DOVRNLT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WILL COST.BUT I ASK FOR IT TO BE NUT THERE.
AND THEN THE COUNTY ROAD 218. SO THE ONE ABOVE IT WHICH SAYS SIDEWALK 218 CLAY HILL TO TAYLOR ROAD THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE LOCAL COMMUNITY I FORGOT THE R GRANT.
>> WE DON'T WANT THEM ROSSING ANY OTHER PLACE ON 218.
SO THEY SAID NO THAT WE COULD NOT.
SO WE HAD TO BUILD WHAT WE H HAD.
BUT THE REST OF IT WOULD ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO HAVE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ALONG 218 WHERE THEY CURRENTLY DON'T NOW IN THE 55 AND 45 MILE AN HOUR ZONES SO THOSE WERE THE TWO I ASKED FOR THERE.
>> AND AND ACTUALLY EXPANSION AND ACTUALLY REPAIR OUT THERE
IS WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING. >> AND IT'S PROBABLYTO BET TO
DIG IT OUTUP AND START. >> AND MAYBE WE WON'T OVER AND SIDEWALK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CALMING WATERS THAT IS IDEAL GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR SAY THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOLS AND STATE HAS DOT GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR THESE TYPE PROEJ EKTS I'LL SAY THAT OUT OF ONE SIDE OF MY MOUTH BUT MY EXPERIENCE FOR THE SCHOOL IT'S A LONG TERM PROCESS.
AND FEIGN THEY APPROVE IT IT MAY BE FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS TO GET THE FUNDING. THEY STACK.
SO WE HAVE A PROJECT IN THE MILL WE, COUNT YES, I I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S SCHOOL SYSTEM OR US, BUT FOR US IT'S A WAY TO FUND SIDEWALKS AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT SAFER OUT OF SCHOOL.
>> AND WHAT IS GENERIC SIDEWALK LINE ITEM COVERING.
>> IS THAT THE YOUR SIDEWALK FUND WHICH I WILL DEFER TO CHERISE'S TEAM THAT IS MONEY PUT IN -- THAT'S THE MONEY PUTS IN THROUGH THE TOP PLAN RIGHT BY DEVELOPERS INTO THE
SIDEWALK FUND. >> DO WE KNOW THE DEVELOPER THAT IS WORKING ON PARCEL AT THE APARTMENTS OFFER RADAR ROAD. HAVE THEY GIVEN US THEIR
$30,000. >> I ININQUIRED ABOUT THAT AND -- I HAVE NOT HEARD --
>> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THAT WHY IS THERE NO FUNDS IN THE YEAR 2, 3, 4, 5. BASICALLY AS FAR AS SIDEWALKS
>> IT'S DEVELOPER DRIVEN SO IF DEVELOPER PUTS THEM IN WE CAN DO PROJECTS AND WE DON'T KNOW IF DEVELOPER WILL PUT THEM IN WE DON'T KNOW IF THE MONEY IS NOT USED.
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON PUBLIC WORKS AT THIS POINT.
>> SO WE REALLY ONLY SPENT 2.3 WITH MILLION ON ROAD SURFACING
LAST YEAR? >> I DON'T KNOW MATH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE SPREADSHEETS YOU HAVE THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT THE ACTUALS THROUGHOUT END OF DECEMBER AND
INTO OCTOBER. >> OKAY SO THE FOUR MILLION.
WE SPENT FOUR MILLION. >> YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO
>> YEAH, 500,000 CARRY OVER. >> AND THAT WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE TRUE UP WHEN WE DOT TRUE UP IN NOVEMBER.
THAT WILL BE REFLECTED AFTER ALL THE INVOICES COME IN FOR LAST YEAR I'M LOOKING AT COMPTROLLERS FRIENDS HERE AFTER THAT IS DONE SO THAT 4.2 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WILL ACTUALLY BECOME CLOSER TO 4 HAD.7 ONCE DO YOU THE CARRY
FORWARD OF 500,000. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND ONE LAST QUESTION STORM WATER STUDY WAS PUT INTO THE ARP.
>>> YES, SIR. >> IS THE LIGHTER PORTION OF
THAT PART OF ARP WITH. >> YEAH YOU CAN PAY FOR IT OUT
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OF ARP. THE STATE ACTUALLY CLAY COUNTY IS THE ONLY COUNTY THAT THE STATE IS ACTUALLY FINISHED LIGHTER FLIGHT ON. SO THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE AT THE STATE LEVEL THROUGH DEM -- DEM WE MAY NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR A LIGHTER FLIGHT BECAUSE THAT IS DONE IN 20 19 AND 2020 WHILE WE HAD CONSTRUCTION SINCE THEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CHANGE LIGHTER ENOUGH TO PAY FOR AN ENTIRE NEW FLIGHT. THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.>> THERE IS NO BAD. >> I'M USED TO THAT'S THE GOOD
NEWS AND THEN. >> THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS WE SAVE THE MONEY AND WON'T HAVE TO PAY FLUORIDEER.
>> ANY OTHER PUBLIC WORKS? WE'LL MOVE ON TO OTHER.
ANY PROJECTS. >> SO OTHER PROJECTS, FUNDING FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT VEHICLES ARE THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTAL BUDGETS SO THEY'RE REMOVED FROM CIXT P.
WE DID PUT A NUMB FOR LAND ACQUISITIONS TAKEN USED TO BE THAT WE PUT ALL THE LAND ACQUISITIONS WITH EACH PRO PROJECT. THAT KIND OF HANDCUFFS YOUR COUNTY DOCUMENTS WORK EFFECTIVELY IF ALL OF A SUDSEN ONE IS TIED TO STATION 22 AND YOU NEED TO BUY LIKE -- WE ALREADY HAVE THAT USING AS AN EXAMPLE THE PROPERTY COMES IN 50,000 HIGH TER HAS TO GO THROUGH BUDGET AMENDMENT AND CIP AMENDMENT AND HAVING LAND ACQUISITION LINE ITEM GIVES YOUR STAFF MORE FLEXIBILITY ON COMP TRORL SIDE IT STILL GETS TIED TO THE PURCHASE AND PART OF THAT OVERALL COST IT JUST GIVES YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY AS A BOARD.
OF COURSE WE CANNOT BUY LAND WITHOUT IT COME TOGETHER BOARD ANYWAY. IT COMES TO THE BOARD.
IT GIVES STAFF MORE FLEXIBILITY AND THE BOARD MORE FLEXIBILITY WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A BUNCH AFTER JUSTMENT IF PRICE OF PROPERTY COMES UP OR DOWN BASED WHOON YOU WERE REQUIRING.
>>. >> THAT'S WHERE WE MOVE THE MONEY FOR BUYING FIRE STATION PROPERTY TAINZ PURCHASE OF PARCEL FROM MUN IS PL PARKING WE PUTS IT ALL IN THAT LINE ITEM.
>> WE DID HAVE MULTI-AGENCY STORAGE WAREHOUSE.
THE LANDS ACQUISITION TUMMY SPOKE ABOUT.
AND WE HAD FUND FOG SPACE NEED STUTDY ONE OF THE THINGS TO THE SAME POINT AS JAIL WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH SPACE TO WE NEED FOR COUNTY TO GROXT OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS ARE GROWING AND COUNTING BBC GROWING WE HAVE TO LEASE SPACE ON COLLEGE DRIVE IN CAULKING TO COUNTY MANAGER WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD STUDY WHAT'S THE TEN YEAR, 15 YEAR PLAN FOR BROMING OF CLAY COUNTY NEW ADMINISTRATION BUILDING OR NEW BUILDING DEVELOPMENT BUILDING OR WHAT'S THE FOCUS FOR THAT EP AND THEN ALSO PUT IN MONEY NOR TRANSIT STUD YIVRMENT WE KEEP TALKING MASS TRANSIT COMMISSIONER TO YOUR POINT THIS WILL ALLOW US TO SAY WHAT WILL WORK AND NOT WORK IN CLAY COUNTY AND HAVE STB STUDY IT SO WE KNOW IF WE DO MASS TRANSIT WE'RE DOING IT THE RIGHTS SGLAIXT I BELIEVE JTA HAS ALREADY DONE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
>> BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT YOU CAN TALK TO JTA.
>> OR JPO. >> PART OF STUDY IN PAYING FOR PART OF. IT AND THEY REFERRED ME TO JTA SO I WENT TO JTA AND THEY HAD THEIR PEOPLE LOOK AT IT AND THEY GAVE PROPOSAL TWO YEARS AGO WE DID NOTHING WITH.
IT SO YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW IF ANOTHER STUDY IS APPROPRIATE.
WE EITHER HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO GO OR NOT.
>> AND THEN LIKE THE CHAL CHALLENGER LIBRARY I SAW I SAW KENT HER AT LUNCH TODAY HE'S NEGOTIATING NOW TO SELL THE REST OF THE PROPERTY SIX THE DEAL THERE IS HE'LL GIVE US
THREE AIRNGERS. >> IF WE CAN COMMIT TO DOING SOMETHING WE IT HE'LL GIVE IT TO US GRATIS.
AT SOME POINT HE HAS THIS KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT USING THE MROPTTY FOR EITHER A LIBRARY OR SOME KIND OTHER FACILITY.
AND IF -- IF WE DON'T TWOORNGTS HE'LL SELL.
IT AND THERE'S AS MUCH AS FIVE ACRES AVAILABLE HE WOULD LOOK TO US TO BUY SOME OF THAT I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT BUT FREE IT FREE IF WE DECIDE WE WANT TO TAKE.
IT I SAID I WOULD BRING THIS UP VRP I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE BOARD FEELS ABOUT. IT IS IT ENOUGH TO MAKE US COMMIT TO SAY WE'LL BUILD SOMETHING THERE IN THREE YEARS WHICH WE HAVE A PLACE OVER THERE.
>> I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. THAT WAS KIND OF IMPOTENCE FOR THE WHOLE NEED SPACE STUDY WE HAVE THAT ONE AS YOU KNOW OTHER DEVELOPERS ARE RESERVED PROPERTY FOR OTHER BUILDINGS SUCH AS LIBRARIES AND CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES AND OTHER THINGS AND THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT ORDER AND IS THE
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COUNTY GOING TO BUILD SIM MORE LIBRARIES, PROBABLY NOT.SO THEN IT'S DOING THE SPACE NEED STUDY TO CIRCUMSTANCE OKAY, HOW MANY MORE LIBRARIES DO WE NEED AS AN EXAMPLE.
WHERE WOULD THEY BE AT. SKIMLERLY IS OVER TAKING A PARK STUDY TO FIGURE OUT PARKS OF THE FUTURE AND FIGURE UT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE. THESE THINGS TIE TOGETHER INTO WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF CLAY COUNTY DO WE NEED THREE MORE BUILD ORGANIZES ONE AND SHOULD IT BE 100,000 SQUARE FOOT AND BE ONE HUGE LIBRARY AS AN EXAMPLE.
>> THAT WAS KIND OF IDEA OF PUTTING THAT SPACE NEED STUDY
INTO THE CIXT P BUDGET. >> I MEAN YEAH IF HE'S GOING GIVE THE COUNTY PROPERTY I THINK WE SMU LOOK INTO IT AND MAKE A PROPOSAL AND FIVE ISER THAN THREE.
> >> FIVE IS BETTER THAN THREE.
IF WE DON'T OPEN UP NEGOTIATIONS AND DECIDE SOMETHING FIRM HERE HE'LL SET PROPERTY.
>> COUNTY MANAGER HAS DIRECTION.
>> AND IF REST OF BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO PURSUE IT TO THAT POINT THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS LET'S DO THAT FT. ANSWER IS NO FINE. BUT WE AT LEAST MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION NOT TO TAKE THE FREE LANE.
>> I THINK COUNTY MANAGER GETS ON THE PHONE AND FINDS OUT SPECIFICS AND NAIL THEM DOWN. LET HOWARD WORK HIS SHAR ENTERED PEP SILL AND SEE WHAT KENT IS OFFERING AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION FROM THAT POINT.
RIGHT NOW IT'S YOUR CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE -- >> HE ALSO SENT US AN EMAIL SOME WRITE SAW. I THINK HE SENT IT TO YOU.
>> YES, SIR. >> AND AMERICAN YOU'RE THE BOARD WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. IT AND THEN WHAT WOULD WE REALLY TRULY PUT THERE.
>> THERE'S PROMTY IN OTHER LOCATIONS AND THE SHERIFF AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS ALSO AND MOVING ALONG FORD AND AHEAD AND WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS LOTS OF GREAT THINGS AHEAD OF US IT'S A GREAT POSITION TO BE N ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE GIVING US LAND. I'LL TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO HERE.
>> WE TALKED ABOUT A LIBRARY NEWSPAPER THERE WE HAVE THOSE PEOPLE IN OAKLY THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO IT BECAUSE THE JACKSONVILLE NEW LIBRARY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THEY CHARM HIM LIKE 400 BUCKS A YEAR OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS IT'S A BIG NUMBER TO USE IT. AND WE'VE GOT THE MIDDLEBURG LIBRARY WHICH IS KIND OF OVER CAPACITY IF YOU WILL AND WE CAN POSSIBLY CONSOLIDATE THOSE TWO AND MAKE A REAL GOOD ONE AND WHEN I TALK LIBRARY I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A PLACE TOSS STORE BOOKS I'M TALKING ABOUT A PUBLIC MEETING ROOM AND STUFF LIKE THAT COMPUTER ACCESS.
>>. >> WE HAVE HAVE MANY JAMES ALL
OVER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON CIP
FOR TROY AT THIS TIME? >> ALL RIGHT.
SO LIST GO BACK TO, IF WE CAN. >> ONE MORE SLIDE.
>> THIS WOULD BE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THAT DIDN'T -- I WOULD SAY CIP THROUGH FIVE YEARS IT'S VERY TIGHT. YOU'RE CARRY FORWARD YEAR FIVE TO SIX IS ABOUT $2 IT MILLION. REALLY IT COMES DOWN IF YOU WANT TO PUT AA PROJECTS IN CIP YOU HAVE TO SET A PROJECTS OUT. BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU WANT A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM TO WORK IN CASE YOU HAVE COSTS CHANGES TO THOSE PROJECTS. HERE'S SOME OF THE PROJECTS MENTIONED THAT WE DON'T HAVE IN THERE.
FOR MOST REPARKS REPUBLICAN REMEMBER RELATED ARMSTRONG PARTICIPATING LOT 600,000 AND -- AND BOAT RAMP POTENTIAL HENRY ROAD AND WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT THAT COST.
ANIMAL SERVICES ONCE WE MOVE OFF THE PROPERTY THERE'S THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE STATE IS PUTTING IN KAYAK LAUNCH THERE'S TALK OF PUTTING THAT INTO PARKING AND FACILITY AND PICKLE BALL COURT I MOW WAS MENTIONED AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSON OF SANDRIDGE FOUR WAY IPT CIRCUMSTANCE WITH COUNTY ROAD 209 B THOSE ARE PROJECTS NOT INCLUDED IN CIXT P. JUST FROM A TRYING TO BALANCE A FIVE YEAR CIP AND BOARD'S DISCRETION IN YOU CAN GIFTS DIRECTION ON IF ONE OF THESE NEEDS TO BE IN THERE WE ASK WHAT ARE WE MOVING OUT IN EXCHANGE ABECAUSE WE REALLY DO NEED TO BALANCE WITH THE FIVE YEARS.
>> HOW MUCH IS A PICKLE BALL COURT COST.
>> I'LL DEFER TO THE FACILITIES OR PARKS PEOPLE.
>> DEPEND. >> WHETHER YOU'RE TRAN TRANSITIONING TENNIS COURTS OR STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
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>> THIS IS STARTING FROM SCRATCH BECAUSE THE PIECE OF PROPERTY USED TO HAVE A TENNIS COURT TORN UP IS MY
>> GOOD AFTERNOON THE QUOTES I RECEIVED FOR PICKLE BALL QUOTES RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 12 RESURFACING AND 120 TO DEMOLISH. BUILD ONE FROM SCRATCH I HAVE NOT GOTTEN FIGURES LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING AT REMODELING SO. ONES WE HAD CURRENTLY.
CHARLIE AND I WE DID A DROP BY TODAY AND LOOKED AT THE SITE.
THERE IS POTENTIAL TO ADD PICKLE BALL COURTS IF WE TAKE DOWN SOME OF THE TREES AND BRUSH THAT IS ON THE SITE THAT IS CURRENTLY OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION THAT UTILIZES THE FACILITY. SO I CAN GET THOSE FIGURES TO YOU. I WILL SAY THERE'S A GROUP THAT HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THAT WANTS TO START GETTING DONATIONS AND TROY SAID THAT THE COUNTY WILL WRITE A POLICY AS FAR AS THEM BEING ABLE TO DONATE TO COUNTY PROPERTY AND THESE PICKLE BALL PEOPLE ARE YOU KNOW THEY'RE READY AND WILLING. AND I MEAN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE TO CLEAR THE LAND FOR US.
I MEAN, ALL KINDS OF DONA DONATIONS.
SO, I MEAN IT MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE TO COME OUT OF THAT BIG
>> IF WE CAN GET ALL THAT TO WORK.
>> AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO FOR ADULTS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY PAYING THE TAXES.
>> YES. >> AND THEY DON'T WAIT.
THEY'RE NOT PATIENT PEOPLE. THEY DON'T WAIT.
>> THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. >> THEY DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH TIME LEFT.
RETIREMENT MONTHS SO. >> THAT'S RIGHTS.
>> LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL IS A TRAIN.
>> I'M NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT WITH A TEN FOOT POLE.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO GET THOSE FOLKS TOGETHER WITH OUR
RECREATION. >> WE HAVE WE'VE BEEN.
>> AND QUITE HONESTLY IF THEY WANT TO GO OFF AND GET THAT DONE AND DONATE THE FINISHED PRODUCT TO THE COUNTY THAT'S
NOT A BAD THING EITHER SO. >> UH-HUH YEAH.
>> WE CAN EVEN NAME IT FOR THEM.
>> SO ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WITH THAT THERE'S OVERFLOW PARKING FOR THE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T CAUSE ISSUES WITH THE PARKING FOR THEIR YOUTH BASEBALL F WE CAN MAKE IT WORK AND ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE HEY
WE'RE ALL FOR IT. >> THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT AND TAKING PICTURES EVERY DAY AND SAYING THEY'RE NOT USING THAT PARKING LOT FOR PARKING AND SENDING ME PICTURES.
SGL IT'S SO FUNNY. >> YEAH I HAVE PICTURES I GET PICTURES EVERY NIGHT. YEAH.
>> OF EMPTY PARKING SHOTS. THEY SAID THEY'RE NOT USING
>> OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO HASH THAT OUT NOW OR BRING THOSE CIP ADDITIONAL PROJECTS BACK TO YOU AS SUGGESTIONS FOR TUE TUESDAY.
>> I THINK IT'S WHATEVER THE BOARD'S PLEASURE IS.
>> BETWEEN NOW AND TUESDAY. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO OF COURSE WE HAVE TO PUBLISH AGENDA THURSDAY.
>> THURSDAY. >> SO REALLY WE'RE ON TIGHT TIME FRAME IF YOU WANT TO ADOPT THE CIP NEXT TUESDAY AND ARP PLAN NEXT TUESDAY SO THAT WE HAVE DIRECTION ON THE PROJECTS. SO IT'S UP TO YOU.
DISCRETION OF THE BOARD ON BOTH ARP AND CIXT P.
>> JIM YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE IN TERMS OF ARP YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THAT WERE YOU MENTIONING YOU MENTIONED WE HAD NOT DISCUSSED WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE JAIL THE JAIL STUDY.
>> WELL THE FUNDING FOR THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS I MEAN THAT GOES BEYOND EMS, SHERIFF OFFICE AND COUNTY EMPLOYEES AS WELL. SO THERE NEEDS TO BE EQUITABLE DISPURSEMENT IF SO DESIRED IT NEEDS TO BE EQUITABLE I THINK
NOT JUST 3 MILLION. >> IT'S ESSENTIAL WORKERS THAT WOULD EXTEND THE WAY THAT THE BILL ARE WRITTEN THAT COULD EVEN EXTEND PAST COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT.
THAT WOW AND AS I EXPRESSED TO YOU CHAIRMAN SXTS ELLA YOU HAVE PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS THAT REACHED OUT ASKING IF THE COUNTY IS GOING TO GIVE ESSENTIAL PAY TO PRIVATE INDUSTRY MEDICAL WORKS AND PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND SUCH SO
. . . >> REGARDING THE SANDRIDGE FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION 209 B WHY IS THAT NOT PART OF BONDED
PROGRAM. >> I'LL DEFER TO RICHARD I THINK THIS IS A NEW PROJECT THAT HAS COME UP RECENTLY.
>> YEAH. MR. SMITH CLAY COUNTY ENERGY
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NEARING DEPARTMENT THIS IS EXCEPTION OF SAND JUDGE RIDGE ROAD TO THE EAST TO ELIMINATE THE OFFSET INTERSECTION YOU HAVE WITH COUNTY ROAD 209 B. THEY'RE ABOUT 540 FEET ABART AND THE REASON IT DIDN'T COME UP EARLIER IS WE DIDN'T CONTROL THE LAND. WE NOW HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS MAINTAINING IT TO GET CONTROL OF ALL THE PROPERTY AND I GAVE A PRICE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND WE ALSO HAVE RIGHTS OF ACQUISITION IN THAT AS W WELL.IT WAS ELIMINATE THE 209 B THE ABILITY FOR 209 B PEOPLE TO TURN LEFT WHERE IT PRESENTLY IS AND ROUTE THEM TO A WHAT'S AN EXISTING STOPLIGHT AT SAND RIDGE AND 209 RUSTLE ROAD AND SAND RICH.
>> DOES THAT MEET THE DEF INFORMATION THE WHAT THE BONDED IS SUPPOSED TO BE I GUESS I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN PAY FOR THAT WITH THE EXTRA MONEY THAT IS GOING TO BE -- BECAUSE ED TOLD US THERE WILL BE EXTRA MONEY.
>> I DON'T THINK HE PUT THIS QUITE THOSE WAYS.
>>. >> THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE BASED ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH COST OF MATERIALS IN TERMS TRYING TO GET WHAT THEY'RE SCHEDULED TO GET DONE.
BUT HE DIDN'T SAY THEY WOULD BE KEEPING TRACK OF ANY SAVINGS AS WE WENT ALONG. BUT I THINK THE PROBLEM IS BOND USED ON SPECIFIC PROJECT.
>> AND THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WOULD BE THE TIMING IN OTHER WORDS THIS IS THE LAND IS NOT AVAILABLE.
TODAY IT'S OWNED BY FIVE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO THAT'S THE ISSUE. >> IT'S A WAITING CAME GAME.
IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO WAIT UNTIL THEN IT'S A PRETTY -- ONE OF YOU GUYS TRAVELS THAT DAILY AND IT'S NOT.
>> IT'S A DEATH TRAP. >> IT'S NOT THE MOST SAFE.
IT'S VERY DANGEROUS. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER WITH 500 WHAT I FORGET NUMBER.
PROBABLY AROUND 3,000 MORE HOMES COMING IN W THAT MANY ADDITIONAL TRPDZ A DAY IT'S A LOT.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WHETHER IT'S THIS REALIGNMENT OR SOME SORT OF AN ADVANCED SIGNAL THERE TO WHERE WE HAVE TWO SIGNALS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER. NOT TO MENTION THE POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT WILL COME WITH THAT CURRENTLY ZONED VILLAGE CENTER AREA.
>>. >> TO COMPLIMENT WHAT COMMISSIONER IS STATING HERE I'M LOOKING AT 740,000 IN INTEREST FROM THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROJECT AND WE HAVE CONTINGENCY FUNDS IN ALL THE PROJECTS RIGHT.
>> SGLIINGT SO THERE'S 700,000 HERE WE COULD USE TO MEET THE INTENT OF THE BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM SO WHY CAN'T -- I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD AND IF YOU LISTEN TO RICHARD CLOSELY WAS THAT THAT PROPERTY IS NOT BEING READY TO BE DONE WITH ANYTHING.
>> I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS AVAILABLE.
>> NO IT'S OPENED BY FIVE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS NOW
AT LEAST. >> AND WE WOULD WRITE OUT THE ACQUISITION. IT'S A TIMING ISSUE.
IF IT WERE DECEMBER OF 2024 AND HAD FOUR MONTHS LEFT TRANSPORTATION PROJECT WE WERE CONFIDENT YEAH WE'RE GOING TO START GETTING A LOT OF NEW PROJECTS TO YOU GUYS YOU KNOW AND THIS WOULD -- THAT WOULD BE IT THAT'S THE QUESTION IS
WHEN. >> RICHARD, THAT'S NOT REALLY TRUE ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
I THOUGHT JOE AND THEN THE ONE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE -- I THOUGHT TWO. JOE OWNS THE TWO NOW.
AND THEN THERE'S JUST TWO I THOUGHT.
TWO. >> WELL THERE'S TWO LONG PING PIECES ONE ADJACENT TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND ONE NEXT TO. IT ONE OR BOTH OF THOSE
THERE'S TWO PARCEL THERE'S. >> RIGHT.
>> AND I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS TO GET.
>> JUST THE ONE. >> IF IT'S ONE IF IT'S TWO IT'S NOT NEWSPAPER ARE YOU CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF
>> YOU MAY BE RIGHT THERE'S ANOTHER PAR SHELL HOME STAYEDED AND I THINK THE OTHERS ARE RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT WANT TO GET BUFFER OFF OF HIM AND NEW ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO HIM WHERE HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE NOW.
WE'LL SEE. BUT THAT'S THE IDEA.
JUST WE DON'T I CAN'T TELL YOU TODAY WE'LL BUILD THIS ROAD.
AND HERE'S HOW MUCH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WILL COST.
WE DON'T KNOW. WE -- THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE.
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>> BUT THERE'S MONEY THAT COULD COME.
>> THERE IS MONEY. >> AND THE BOTTOM -- FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S PRETTY -- IT'S PRETTY LIBERAL ONCE WE HAVE MONEY OTHER THAN THE FACT WE HAVE TO SPEND IT.
>> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN. THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT HAS TO BE TRANSPORTATION RELATED.
>> CORRECT. >> IT'S NOT THAT LIBERAL AND THEN THE TIMING ISSUE COMES INTO PLAY BECAUSE THEY'RE TAX EXEMPT MUNICIPAL BOND AND WE HAVE THAT TIMELINE AS RICHARD SAID HERE. WHAT WE CAN DO IS AND SAID NOT HERE RIGHT NOW EITHER AND TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
IT IT'S AN AREA THAT HAS DYNAMICS.
>> IN THE BOARD DWIVZ DIRECTION WE CAN START TALK TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT THE COST OF GOODS ARE GOING UP. WERE LOOKING GOOD, OR LOOKING OKAY. WHEN IT COMES TO THESE PROJECTS AND ROADS, REALLY IT HAS GOT THIS TEED UP NICELY. WE NEED TO GET THIS ASPHALT ON THE ROAD QUICKLY. JUST INFLATION WILL KILL THAT PART OF MONEY THAT IS THERE. THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING. IT WAS GREAT ON THE INTEREST EARNED AND AMY AND HER TEAM WORKING OUT. THERE WILL BE MORE TO FILE FROM THE INVESTMENT COMMITTEE AS WE BRING UP TO THE BOARD. IF YOU LET US WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION WE CAN PROPOSE THIS AND SEE WHERE THS DEVELOPED AND WE WON'T OPEN UP THE COMPS WITH HIM. OPEN UP COMPS WITH KIM AND THEN COMPS WITH JOE IF THE BOARD PLEASES AND WE CAN GO
FORWARD FROM THERE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM. I THINK $1 MILLION MIGHT BE A LITTLE OPTIMISTIC TERMS OF DOING ENGINEERING, CONSTRUCTION AND RIGHT-OF-WAY.
>> IS 850 FEET ABOUT 1 1/4 ACRES OF RUNAWAY. THAT'S ABOUT $750 PER LINEAR FOOT ROAD.
CURB AND GUTTER, 2 LANES. BIKE LANES AND THE PONDS. WERE REALLY WANTING TO DO THIS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT SO THE PONDS CAN BE PART OF WHATEVER DEVELOPS IN THAT AREA. MAYBE A SHARED JUICE UPON THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE MAINTENANCE WITH IT OR REALLY EARLY. THIS IS ONLY A COUPLE OF DAYS OLD. NOT EVEN WEEKS YET. IT IS A VERY GOOD PERMANENT SOLUTION TO WHAT COULD BE, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOME SORT OF SOLUTION THERE. WHETHER IT'S A DUAL LIGHTS.
TRYING TO FIND WORDS CLOSE. EVEN MILWAUKEE, IS CLOSER THAN MILWAUKEE AND KINGSLEY ON 17.
COMMISSIONER VINEGAR MARIE GO THROUGH EVERY DAY. IT'S REALLY CLOSE. IT TAKES A LOT OF COORDINATION AND WILL CREATE A LOT OF BACKUP IS A PERMANENT FIX.
>> YEAH, THIS IS VERY SCARY. SERIOUSLY. >> THANK YOU RICHARD.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON ANY ADDITIONAL
PROJECTS? >> I THINK AT THIS POINT THERE'S JUST DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL ARPA PROJECTS OR ANYTHING YOU WANT US TO MOVE IN OR OUT OF
THE CIP OR JUST. >> GEL STUDY WOULD BE NUMBER ONE.
>> I THINK SOME TOO. >> SECOND ONE WOULD BE PICKLE BALL COURTS IF YOU CAN SQUEEZE
HIM IN THERE SOMEHOW. >> THE BATHROOM HAS BEEN ASKED FOR QUITE A WHILE FROM, GUESS WHO? THE PICKLE BALL PEOPLE. SO, THERE'S ONLY A BATHROOM IT'S LIKE QUITE A WAYS FOR
THEM. >> THE ARMSTRONG PARKING LOT IS AT THE BEST WE COULD DO IN TERMS OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE TO TAKE THAT FENCING OUT. COMBINE WAS USED TO BE REDWOOD IS NOW A PARKING NOT. BOTH ARE PAVED ALREADY.
>> SO WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE FACILITIES TEAM BEFORE JUST TO FINALIZE ALL OF THE
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PLANS FOR THAT PROJECTS. WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE. THERE SOME DRAINAGE PROJECT THAT NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT. SO IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE YOU KNOW, TAKE UP THE CONCRETE FACTS THERE APPEARED TO COUPLE THE FENCE THAT'S THERE AND REPAY. THERE SOME DRAINAGE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE. SO THAT'S AS GOOD NUMBER AS WE COULD GET.>> OKAY. >> THE MAN OF THE HOUR WALKS IN. [LAUGHTER]
>> HI GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, DEAN CLAY COUNTY FACILITIES PREVENT NUMBER 6000 IS ROCK ESTIMATE. THERE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE IN PLACE. WE OBTAINED DRAINAGE HAS TO BE TIED INTO ST. JOHN'S WATER MAINEDOT THERE'S A CME A WHILE BACK BY
THE APARTMENTS THAT HAS TO BE FACTORED IN WITH THAT NUMBER. >> WHAT WAS THAT?
>> THERE'S A BLOCK WALL THAT 30S TO BE A DECISION POINT. WILL BE CONTINUED OUT AMONG THE OTHER WEIGHT WITH THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS OR FENCE, CHAIN-LINK OR WHAT NOT. TO MEET A LOT OF THIS REQUIREMENTS OR WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE PROJECT TO BE THE KIND OF ESTIMATED ON THE HIGHER END. DO WE NEED TO PUT MORE LIGHTING IN THEIR AS WE EXTEND THAT PARKING LOT PROJECT? IF YOU'RE OUT THERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST MOVING OUT FENCE AND ADDING SOME PARKING LOTS. RIGHT ACROSS THAT FENCE THERE IS ACTUALLY A DITCH FOR DRAINAGE THAT GOES OUT TO THE MAIN ROAD. WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT COVERING THAT UP. MOVE THE DRAINAGE AND WORKING WITH ENGINEERING AND WHAT WE WANT THAT PARKING LOT TO BE? RIGHT NOW THEY'VE GOT CONCRETE. MAYBE WE'LL DO ASPHALT AND THAT'S WHY WERE GOING ON THE
HIGHER END. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ASK YES, SIR.
>> CHAIRMAN, I THINK THERE WAS A MENTION OF A SIDEWALK PROJECT ALONG OLD CLARK ROAD THAT CAME UP RECENTLY IN CONVERSATION ALSO THAT I DID NOT PUT ON THE SLIDE.
>> SO ANOTHER HUNDRED 40,000? >> IN TERMS OF MINE, I CAN'T MOVE ON ANY KIND OF BONUS PROGRAM UNTIL I SEE ALL THE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF WHO IS ELIGIBLE AND I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER VINEGAR, WE CAN'T DO FOR ONE THAN FOR ANYBODY. EAT UP MORE OF OUR ARPA MONEY WHICH WE MIGHT HAVE AVAILABLE THIS POINT SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER NOT READY TO MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AT THIS POINT.
>> WE COULD DIRECT STOP TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND BRING IT BACK SO WE COULD DO THAT.
>> DO WE HAVE TO DECIDE RIGHT NOW ON HOW TO SPEND ALL OF THESE FUNDS? IT'S A LOT TO TAKE IN. THOSE MOVING PIECES. LAST WEEK AT THE GUN RANGE WORKSHOP WE HEARD SOME NUMBERS AND WERE TRYING TO COMBINE ALL OF THIS STUFF. TRY TO CONSIDER EVERYONE'S NEEDS AND THEIR
ALL-IMPORTANT. >> I THINK THE FACTOR OF THE ARPA PLAN IS IF THE DECISION OF THE BOARD IS TO NOT USE THE ARPA MONEY OR TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAN THAT OF EXTERIOR CIP. WHILE YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON EVERYTHING THERE ARE SOME KEY PROJECTS IN ARPA ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT MOVED MONEY AT THE CIP BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE ARPA FOR OTHER ITEMS YOUR DRAINAGE PRODUCTS FOR EXAMPLE. THE PUBLIC WANT TO MOVE BACK INTO CIP. PIPE WILL BE THE DRAINAGE PROJECTS TO CIP THAT MEANS 7 TO $8 MILLION OF OTHER
PROJECTS HAVE TO LEAVE CIP. >> I GET THAT. ALL THE ARPA MONEY IS NOT ENCUMBERED OR IDENTIFIED. OR EARMARKED IS A BETTER WORK. EARMARKED IS THE RIGHT WORD.
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>> I WOULD NOT SUGGEST GOING ALL THE WAY TO EARMARKING THE FULL 42 BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE NEXT 2 YEARS WILL HOLD. >> I WOULD GO ALONG WITH COMMISSIONER MINIATURE AND HONORING THE SHERIFF'S REQUEST WE LOOK INTO WHAT THAT WILL BE.
WE HAVE A ROUGH NUMBER ON HER SIGN. IN TERMS OF PULLING IT ALL TOGETHER FOR ALL CONSIDERED ESSENTIAL PERSONNEL EVERYBODY WE HAVE TO HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THAT ENTAILS. I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT STAFF TO AT LEAST LOOK INTO THAT AND SEE WHERE THAT LEADS US. IT COULD LEAD US IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN DO THAT BASED ON WHAT WE PARTY GONE. KATHY ESQUIVEL UNTIL WE
KNOW WHAT THAT IS. EVERYONE ABOARD LOOKING AT THAT? >> I'M KIND OF NEUTRAL NOT.
>> AND THEN WE AGREED ON THE GEL QUITE. >> I THINK THE GEL STUDY, I MEANT FAVOR OF THAT. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PUT THAT IN THERE.
>> IT'S LIKE THE ROADS THINK WERE DOING. WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN AND BE ABLE TO IT. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HOLLAND. WHERE TO GO FOR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
>> I WAS AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT ABOUT THE HARVARD ROAD SIDEWALK. HOWEVER THAT'S NOT UNTIL 24 TO 25. MAYBE WE HAD A LOOK AT THAT. IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS A REAL PROBLEM IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOOK AT IT, FOR TO PUT IT IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
>> ARE LOOKING FOR SOME RELIEF FOR PEOPLE NOT TO WALK THE ROAD ON OLD PARMA ROAD TO GET TO THE
SIDEWALK ON 220 THEN THEY COULD TAKE THEM TO SCHOOL. >> KIDS ARE WORKING TO LIKE
WALKING FROM THE STREET TO THE SIDEWALK. >> ANYTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT? WE HAVE SOME HOMEWORK TO DO AND CERTAINLY WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF AND THERE'S THINGS THAT WE THINK CAN BE MOVED AND OUT. WE MADE SOME DECISIONS ON A COUPLE OF THINGS. THERE'S MORE THINGS THAT ARE BEING HELD UP IN LITTLE MUSICAL ACCOMPANIMENT THAT GOES WITH THAT WOMAN THAT WANTS TO ADD MUSIC TO OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
>> THAT WOULD BE NICE. >> MR. CHAIRMAN MAY GIVE LITTLE MORE GUIDANCE ON THIS. AGAIN THERE WAS A PURPOSE TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE WITH ARPA FUNDS. FUNDAMENTALLY WE LOOK BACK TO GIVE SOME SORT OF HAZARDOUS, I LOOK AT IT AS HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY. IN THE NAVY ARE RETURNING RECEIVE HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY FOR THAT. THE SHERIFF ALLUDED TO FIRE RESCUE RECEIVING OVERTIME WHEN THERE IS A CRITICAL NEED TO ANSWER CALLS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE THAT IF WE DIDN'T ANSWER THOSE CALLS WE DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT WE WOULD AMENDED AWAY IN REGARDS TO THE PANDEMIC AND OUT. THAT WAS KIND THAT WAS WORKED EXTRA THAT WOULD BE OVERTIME LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THAT BECAUSE IT WAS IN A DIRE NEED. OPEN THIS UP AND YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITIES OF THESE MONIES ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS THAT WORK DURING THE PANDEMIC. WELL, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THE SHERIFF HAS NARROWED IT DOWN FROM NOVEMBER TO MARCH TIMEFRAME. REALLY AND TRULY ONCE HE OPENED THE DOOR ON THIS THING HOSPITALS, NURSES, DOCTORS, ANYONE THAT PROVIDED CRITICAL CARE SERVICE DURING THE PANDEMIC COULD REQUEST THOSE MONIES AND OUT THERE FOR THAT ESSENTIAL WORKER PAY. WE HAVE NURSES, WE ARE TESTING SITES WE HAD AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THAT WAS HERE. IT'S REALLY AN AREA THAT WHEN TROY AND I TALKED ABOUT ARPA IN THE BEGINNING WE JUST STAYED AWAY FROM IT BECAUSE THE FUNDS ARE LIMITED. 42 AND HALF MILLION. WE REALLY JUST FOCUSING ON PROJECTS AND THINGS TO INVEST IN THE FUTURE. AGAIN, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BUT IT WILL START TO OPEN UP A LOT OF MONEY AND EXPENDITURES THAT WERE THERE.
WE STILL PROVIDED SERVICES ACROSS THE BOARD THERE WAS A PERIOD WHEN THE ENTIRE NATION STOOD STILL FOR THE STANDDOWN AND OUT. THEN STARTED TO OPEN BACK UP. SO WE'VE GOT PUBLIC WORKS, CRITICAL, ESSENTIAL TO KEEP THE ROADS GOING. SIGNALS FOR THAT. FACILITIES ACROSS
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THE BOARD. THERE WAS A LOT TO ENCOMPASS IN THIS. IT MAY SEEM TRIVIAL IN THE BEGINNING BUT IT IS A LOT TO THINK ABOUT AND TO COMPENSATE INDIVIDUALS APPROPRIATELY AND THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. AGAIN THE SHERIFF SHOULD DOLLAR AMOUNT OF LIKE 5 DOLLARS PER HOUR. IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT'S 5 DOLLARS AND IS $3 MILLION. ON THAT. YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WE HAVE AND WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL TO COMPENSATE ESSENTIAL WORKERS. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. WE WILL TRYING TO PREPARE A BRIEF FOR THAT AND THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS. ON THE 26TH GIVE YOU AN IDEA. AND WHEN TROY LOOKED AT THIS WITH THE STAFF AND EARLY IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT HE MADE SURE NOT TO SPEND ALL OF THOSE MONIES. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS. THERE COULD BE ANOTHER VARIANT OUT THERE. WE COULD BE HIT ECONOMICALLY IN SOME WAY.SEE THE CHALLENGES WITH LABOR. WE SEE THE CHALLENGES AND EXPENSE OF INFLATION AND RESOURCES. THERE IS A LOT AHEAD OF US AND A LOT OF UNKNOWNS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO BRIEF THE BOARD ON THAT. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. WE WILL HAVE SOME DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IS THERE. I THINK IT'S MORE THAN JUST A DOLLAR AMOUNT IS WHAT I WANTED TO BRIEF AND GET TO YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE IF TROY, I HAVE GEL STUDY AND THE OLD HARD ROAD SIDEWALK. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT PICKLE BALL WHERE WE CAN FIT IT IN. RUNNING VAN ZANDT BATHROOM. WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THE ARMSTRONG PARKING LOT. THAT IS A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW AND THE CHALLENGER CENTER. YES SIR. I WILL CALL BOTH CAN AND JOE ABOUT THESE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS HERE ON OUT. IT IS BALANCED RIGHT NOW. WE WILL GO BACK AND TAKE THE INPUTS FROM WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE BOARD TODAY AND THEN WE WILL COME
BACK TO THE BOARD ON THE 26TH FOR THE DECISION ON THEM. DID I MISS SOMETHING TROY? >>
CLIENT RIGID DRAINAGE. >> PINE RIDGE DRAINAGE WAS THE OTHER. YES MA'AM.
>> IT'S 1,000,000 1/2. >> ON THE PINE RIDGE DRAINAGE IT WOUL BE THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S BASICALLY A SQUARE. WRONGLY FOCUSED ON THE UPPER CORNER OF THAT AND I THINK IT WAS 580,000 TO JUST REPAIR THAT CORNER. THE OTHER ESTIMATED COST LEAVES ABOUT ANOTHER I THINK IT'S APPROXIMATELY 900,000 CASES THERE APPEARED THAT COULD BE OFFSET BY ARPA FUNDS ON THAT. SO AGAIN WE CAN PROGRAM THAT IN AND MAKE SURE WE PUT THAT IN.
WHAT ELSE DID I MISS TROY? >> I'VE ASKED THE BOARD OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS IF THERE ARE THINGS I HATE TO BE THE GUY THAT SAYS THIS. IF THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO ADD WE ALSO NEED THOSE OFFSETS. RIGHT NOW $2 MILLION ISSUE TOTAL GIVE AND TAKE YOU KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO GO LESS THAN THAT BECAUSE AGAIN IF WE GO LESS THAN THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR EMERGENCIES OR OTHER STUFF AND CAPITAL IF WE GO UNDER THAT $2 MILLION BASICALLY RESERVE.
>> SANTA HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD TO US THIS YEAR. >> THE OTHER THING WE DID TALK ABOUT WHICH WAS ON YOUR ORIGINAL SLIDE WERE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AND HOW THAT BREAKS DOWN HOW WE WERE MAKING DETERMINATIONS WITH THOSE DOLLARS. I THINK TOTAL 2
MILLION OVER THE NEXT WHAT, SEVERAL YEARS. >> YES SIR. THERE IS $2 MILLION FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS WE SET ASIDE AND SOME OTHER THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS FUNDING SMALL BUSINESS SPCA. COMMUNITY EFFORTS SUCH AS POTENTIALLY HELPING OUT THINGS LIKE FREE CLINIC WITH CONSTRUCTION OR OF THEIR NEW FACILITY. CLAY BEHAVIORAL.
THEY HAVE FACILITY ISSUES. THEN THERE WAS ALSO THE REQUEST ABOUT MOBILITY FEE OFFSETS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. BEING INCLUDED IN THAT OTHER COUNTY. OTHER COUNTIES DO THAT AND ARPA FUNDS TO ALLOW FOR THIS KIND OF OFFSETS FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO IT WOULD BE THE DEPRESSION OF THE BOARD IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE THE 2 MILLION IN THERE. IF YOU WANT DIFFERENT AMOUNTS AT SOME POINT WE WOULD ASK FOR GUIDANCE FOR THE BOARD HOW YOU WANT TO SPEND $2 MILLION OVER
THE NEXT 3 AND A HALF YEARS. >> SBC IS VIABLE TO ALL COUNTY SMALL BUSINESSES. IT'S OPEN TO ALL COUNTY SMALL BUSINESSES. WITHIN THE MOBILITY OFFSET FULLY ON BOARD WITH BOTH OF THOSE. THE OTHERS I THINK WE NEED SOME KIND OF PROCESS TO APPLY OR PRESENT TO THE BOARD
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OR SOMETHING KIND OF LIKE KIND OF LIKE WHAT WAS DONE WITH CARES ACT BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE INVOLVED. I THINK AFTER THE FACT THAT ONE FELT A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE.>> I THINK IF THE BOARD'S PLEASURE IS TO DO COMMUNITY PROGRAM LIKE THAT THEN IF YOU GIVE US THE DIRECTION YOU CAN STIR US TO WHERE YOU WANT US TO GO WE COULD BRING THOSE PROGRAM
GUIDELINES BACK TO YOU. >> I AGREE. SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY VALUABLE FOR OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. ANY BUSINESS I TALKED TO THAT IS GONE TO THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN VERY HIGH ON WHAT IT'S DONE FOR THEIR BUSINESS. THAT'S MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE $2 MILLION.
DID WE LOCK THAT IN ALREADY FOR CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS IN TERMS OF B.
>> WE DID IT WILL BE DID CARES. THAT'S EXPIRING. WE GOT A PROPOSAL FROM THEM. WE WORK ON AGREEMENT THAT IF WE APPROVE THE MONEY THROUGH OUR BUT WE WOULD BRING YOU THAT AGREEMENT FOR ANOTHER GO FROM NOW THROUGH 2024 WITH ARPA FUNDING. THERE WOULD BE OUR REQUEST IF THE BOARD SUPPORTS THE EVEN JUST THAT PIECE OF IT WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A GET THAT AGREEMENT DONE SO WE CAN CONTINUE THAT SERVICE. IF THE BOARD'S DISCRETION OR DIRECTION IS TO DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH A $2 MILLION COME BACK WITH A PROGRAM WE CAN BRING THAT UP
HOWEVER IF THE BOARD SEES FIT. >> OKAY. ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS AT THIS POINT OR COMMENTS ON THE COMMUNITY PROGRAMS? HEARING NONE, IF YOU DO I WOULD SUGGEST TALK TO TROY DIRECTLY AND WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR US TO GIVE YOU DIRECTION FOR AT LEAST TO BEGIN THIS TERM TERMS OF SOME KIND OF SCORING OR PROCESS? WHAT WE DO WITH OUR TDC GRANTS, THERE'S A FORMULA THERE'S A PROCESS IN WHICH SOMEBODY COMES TO THE BOARD LOOKING FOR MONIES FOR A
PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH BEFORE? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
WE COULD TO THIS HERE OR OFF-LINE. INDIVIDUALLY. SOME DIRECTION, TO WANT THIS MANY FOCUSED MORE TO HELP YOUR HEALTH TYPE ORGANIZATIONS? WE FREE, CLAY BEHAVIORAL APPEARED TO WANT THEM ANYMORE TO GO TOWARDS SMALL BUSINESSES AND DO SMALL BUSINESS TYPE GRANTS AGAIN? DO YOU WANT THIS WANTING TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION? THEN YOU HAVE THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING QUESTION OUT THERE TOO. ANY DIRECTION WE CAN GET WILL GO, VICTORIOUS TEAM IS GOOD TO PULL TOGETHER SCORING CRITERIA THAT OTHER COUNTIES HAVE USED AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO SAY WERE GOING TO START GIVING THEM AN OUT TOMORROW. I THINK IT'S A LONG-TERM HOW DO YOU WANT TO BETTER THE COMMUNITY.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST SOME SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW THAT WOULD BE. WHETHER IT'S THIS MONEY OR MONEY IN THE FUTURE. IT'S NOT WASTED TIME AND ENERGY AND EFFORT TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. THEN MAKE A DETERMINATION WHETHER WE THINK THERE ARE OTHER THINGS NEED TO BE PLUGGED IN AS A COMPONENT TO MAKE THAT DECISION ULTIMATELY. WHETHER IT'S THIS MONEY OR
MONEY IN THE FUTURE. >> WE WILL BRING SOMETHING BACK IN A COUPLE MONTHS TO WITH THE SCORING CRITERIA. I THINK VICTORIA IS WORKING ON THE NONPROFIT GRANTS FOR NEXT YEAR
WE WILL INCORPORATED ALL BRING BACK TO YOU. >> YES, IT COULD BE SIMILAR.
>> ESPECIALLY NO STATUTE OFTEN. IF WORK DRIVEN BY STATUTE TO ASSIST ORGANIZATIONS TO MEET
NEEDS THAT CERTAINLY WILL PERCOLATE TO THE TOP. >> OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE?
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>> AS WE GO TO PUBLIC, WE HAVE ONE CARD IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO THE BOARD, PLEASE, THIS IS YOUR TIME TO DO IT. WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARENTS. MR.
MOORE, STEVE MOORE? >> MR. CHAIRMAN THIS IS BEEN A PRETTY LONG MEETING. I'M NOT
GOING TO MAKE YOU STICK AROUND. >> WE NEED THE OVERTIME. COME
ON. >> YOU LISTEN TO US. WE SENT HER THE WHOLE TIME.
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>> ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, MR. CONNICK MANAGER TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? COURTNEY JUST
WHISPERED IN HER EAR. >> NOTE WAS A MEETING HAD A 5 O'CLOCK THAT'S BEEN WAITING.
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WE WILL GET THIS TOGETHER. TROY WILL PUT SOME GREAT PEN TO PAPER* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.