Sep 21, 2021 Finance and Audit Meeting Agenda

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

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I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 21, 2021.

IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT? MR. FANNING, NOT. I FELT HONORED BECAUSE IN ALL THE MONTHS I'VE BEEN CHAIRING THIS COMMITTEE I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD ONE SINGLE PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL UNTIL TODAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOOD OR BAD. I THINK IT'S BAD BECAUSE I THINK PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS A HUGE PART OF OUR CAL GOVERNMENT.

AND IF IT'S UP TO ME TO CARRY THAT LOAD WERE IN BAD SHAPE. SO.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON NONETHELESS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MADAM CHAIR. THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT. BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL MR. ÃI WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE TO THE COUNTRY. WHEN I WAS HERE LAST TIME I DIDN'T NECESSARILY REMEMBER. I KNEW THAT BUT I DIDN'T RECALL THAT YOU HAD EXTENSIVE NAVAL CAREER INCLUDING BEING THE COMMANDER OF NAS JACKS. WHEN I THANK YOU FOR THAT SERVICE AND SACRIFICE. I AM FREE TODAY BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO VOLUNTEERED. TO SERVE THIS COUNTRY. TO SWEAT AND BLEED AND CRY FROM TIME TO TIME FOR THIS COUNTRY. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I THANK YOU FOR THOSE 26 YEARS.

BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, SAY THIS. IF YOU BLOW SMOKE AND I DON'T WANT TO TALK LIKE A SAILOR BUT YOU COULD DO THE MATH. IF YOU WANT TO BLOW SMOKE UP MY SKIRT FOR 26 SECONDS IN YOUR SMOKE BLOWER. WHAT YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THIS ASSISTANT ACCOUNTING MANAGERS TAKING EFFECT UNTIL OCTOBER I THINK WAS SMOKE BLOWING.

WANT TO FORGIVE YOU THROUGH THE CHAIR WITHOUT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME OUT.

GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT. IF I'M ASKING QUESTIONS ARE PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW A LOT OF THE ANSWERS. AND STARTING NEW THAT PEOPLE WERE ALREADY USING THE TERM ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER. CHARLIE LATHAM CALLED ME ON A SATURDAY, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT. I'M VERY GRATEFUL.

I ASKED TO THE COUNTY MANAGER. I GOT SHUFFLED DOWN BECAUSE I WANT TO YOU AND SOMEONE I WAS FAMILIAR WITH AND IF I WANTED TO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES I WOULD'VE JUST CALLED OVER THERE. THE COUNTY MANAGER BECAUSE I NOTICED THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS MORE POWER THAN CHARLIE LATHAM.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND YET HOW WE CREATED THESE POSITIONS, DEPUTY COUNTY MANAGER. I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE CHARTER.

I DON'T SEE ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER IN THE CHARTER. NOW MS. GRAHAM HAS A PORTION IN THE CHARTER AS WELL AS ACCOUNTING ATTORNEY AND THERE LANGUAGE THAT OUTLINES ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER. ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. NOW, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IS THE TERM THAT WERE USING IN THE CHARTER. IF HER COMMITMENT THOSE JOB TITLES BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME THAT'S A LARGE PART OF WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER IS JUST A JOB TITLE.

THAT'S AN AMENDMENT TO OUR HOME RULE CHARTER. WHICH IS SACRED.

IT'S IN LINE WITH OUR CONSTITUTION. THIS IS HER COUNTY CONSTITUTION INNOCENCE. AS MUCH AS JOE BIDEN THANKS HE CAN AMEND THE CONSTITUTION WITH THE STROKE OF A PEN, CASE NOT RIGHT. THIS PROCESS AND IT'S BEEN HANDED DOWN OVER TIME AND IT'S BECAUSE OF VETERANS WHO HAVE SERVED AND SACRIFICED THAT HAVE PROTECTED THOSE CONSTITUTIONS IN THIS DOCUMENT AS WELL. I JUST WANT TO SAY, ONCE AGAIN MR. WANAMAKER THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE. WE GET PAST THIS.

I WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU. GIVE ME YOUR CELL PHONE NUMBER AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I'VE HAD FROM THE PREVIOUS 2 OF THE 3 PREVIOUS ACCOUNTING MATTERS AS WELL. AND STEPHANIE, SHE ALWAYS HAD TIME FOR ME.

A LOT OF TIMES IT BE 9:30 AT NIGHT SHE'S ON THE WAY HOME. BUT SHE ALWAYS HAD TIME TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DO WANT TO PAINT THE ANSWER INTO A CORNER.

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COUNTRY. FAITHFULLY. >> THANK YOU MR. FINLEY WE APPRECIATE YOU THIS AFTERNOON. I GOT LITTLE EXTRA TIME I WOULDN'T HAVE ANYONE WORKING

THE CLOCK. >> I WAS WAITING FOR THE REDLINE.

>> I KNEW IT WAS A GOOD A CUT YOU OFF AS APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.

[1.  First Extension and Modification to the Agreement for Medical Director Services with Justin Deaton, M.D. (D. Motes)]

DEATON. CHIEF MOTES. >> THINK ABOUT.

SHE FELT DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. I GOT DOCTOR BENNETT CARE HE CAME AFTER THE PASSING DOCTOR GIANNAS. KINDA FILL THE GAP FIRST FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME. IF ELECTED TO CONTINUE TO RETAIN HIM THROUGH THIS NEXT YEAR. WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT MORE TIME FROM HIM.

REALLY WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2 CONTRACTS ARE WHAT WE HAD WITH DOCTOR GIANNAS BEFORE HIS WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE IN THE FIELD I CONTINUE TO RUN. AND WE NEED HIS SERVICES OUT IN THE FIELD AND TRAINING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. HE IS GOING TO CONTINUE THE OD TO A PROGRAM THAT OPIOID DIVERSION PROGRAM WITH US. COMMUTING HERMISTON. HOPEFULLY GET THROUGH HAVING AN IN-HOUSE PARAMEDIC PROGRAM AND REALLY JUST BRINGS A WHOLE HOST OF THINGS TO THE FLOOR.

MERELY HIS TIME.O HAVE HIM HERE TODAY IF HE COULD ADDRESS Y'ALL FOR A MOMENT AND TALK TO

ABOUT THIS NEXT YEAR'S ACTIVITY FOR CLAY COUNTY. >> GREAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON DOCTOR. >> HI. ALL RIGHT HI, AS CHIEF MOATS MENTIONED DOCTOR JUSTIN DEATON, EMERGENCY MEDICINE PHYSICIAN AT WESTPARK MEDICAL CENTER.'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2016. WAS THERE WHEN THEY STARTED TRAUMA PROGRAM AND THE INCEPTION OF RESIDENCY TRAINING FOR EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS. I DON'T PLAN ON GOING ANYWHERE.

I LIKE IT THERE. ANYTHING I CAN DO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY MORE THAN HAPPY TO DEAL. SO I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO OUTLINE IN DETAIL WHAT I PLAN ON THE NEXT 12 MONTHS AS FAR AS ENHANCING THE CARE THAT PATIENTS GET IN PREHOSPITAL IN CLAY COUNTY. WORKING CLOSELY WITH ATTORNEY DIRECTOR AT CLAY COUNTY EMS TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM VERY SIMILAR TO HELPING TRAIN PHYSICIANS TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS.

THE FIRST THING WE WILL DO IN ADDITION TO BEING AVAILABLE 24 HOURS DATE, VIA PHONE CALL FOR QUESTIONS AND THINGS. THERE'S 3 AREAS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS.

THE FIRST THING IS DEVELOPING A VERY DETAILED QI WHICH IS QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROCESS WHERE WE REVIEW CASES ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT'S INTERACTIVE WITH EMS. PERSONNEL, PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CASE AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT HAVE.

THE PAPER THEY GIVE AN IDEA OF REAL-WORLD SCENARIOS AND DECISION-MAKING'S THAT SOMETIMES CAN BE VERY COMPLEX THAT I CAN OFFER SOME OF MY GUIDANCE AS TO HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE CERTAIN SITUATIONS. WE WOULD HAVE THINKING MY MEETINGS WILL BE REVIEW CASES.

THIS NONPUNITIVE. IT'S PURELY EDUCATIONAL. SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M THINKING ABOUT, WHEN I'M TRIAGING A PATIENT AND HOW TO

TAKE CARE OF THEM. THE SECOND PHASE WHICH IS REALLY WHERE THE >>> OF MY TIME WILL BE IS DEVELOPING TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES IN ORANGE PARK AND DELIVERED TO VARIOUS STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. INSTEAD OF HAVING TO RELY ON PARAMEDICS AND EMTS ARE VERY BUSY. TO COME TO ORANGE PARK AT A TIME WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO TO THEM TO BURY STATIONS, DIFFERENT DAYS OF THE WEEK IF I HAVE TO GO AT 7 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT LIKE A GOAL. IF I GO AT 6 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING I CAN GO. THERE'S 5 AREAS I THINK ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT FORM EMS.THOSE ARE STROKE PATIENTS, PATIENTS HAVING STEMI'S WHICH IS THE MEDICAL TERM HAVING A HEART ATTACK. PEDIATRIC PATIENTS, TRAUMA PATIENTS AND THE LAST THING IS TECHNOLOGY. SUCH AS ULTRASOUNDS, TELEMEDICINE, IV PUMPS, NEW PEQUIPMENT IS CHANGING AND COMING OUT. HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE RESOURCES TO BRING THOSE THINGS WITH ME. TRAINING MODELS OF THINGS WE DO WITH PHYSICIANS OFFER THAT TO PARAMEDICS. WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY FOR SOME OF OUR SENIOR RESIDENTS TO READ ALONG WITH EMS AND SHOW THEM HOW TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGIES IN REAL TIME.

IT'S ONE THING IF ALL BEEN IN PLACES WHERE YOU WATCH A VIDEO ON HOW TO DO SOMETHING.

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WITH THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE. IT IS BEEN A LONG TIME MOVING FORWARD AND TRAIN PEOPLE HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT AND SUCH. BEYOND THAT JUST CONTINUING THE GREAT PROGRAMS OF DOCTOR GIANNAS HAD SET FORTH AND EXPANDING THE OPIATE ODT WAY. SO I'VE WORKED WITH GLENN ALREADY QUITE A BIT AND CONTINUING. I THINK IT'S A VERY VALUABLE.

I SEE PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL ALL OF THE TIME. IT'S UNFORTUNATE FOR THOSE PATIENTS. IF WE CAN GIVE THEM SOME RESOURCE AND OUTREACH TO THEM YOU KNOW IF WE CHANGE TO PEOPLE'S LIVES A YEAR THAT'S MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR ME.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING I MENTIONED OR ANYTHING IN GENERAL I'M HAPPY

TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> COMMISSIONER JEREMY

QUESTIONS? >> YEAH. I'VE SPOKEN WITH CHIEF MOATS ABOUT THIS. A FAIRLY WIDE RANGE OF EXPANSION OF F SERVICES COMPARED DOCTOR G WHAT HE PROVIDED. ARE YOU A MEDICAL SERVICE

DIRECTOR IN ANY OTHER COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY? >> YES.

I AM THE ASSISTANT MEDICAL DIRECTOR FOR ORANGE PARK FIRE. NOT A MEDICAL DIRECTOR HAVE ANY TIES TO ANY OTHER COUNTY. ONLY ORANGE PARK FIRE WHICH IS A SINGLE STATION DOWN THE STREET FROM THE HOSPITAL. I WILL BE TAKING VER AS A FULL-TIME MEDICAL DIRECTOR ROLE THERE IN FEBRUARY. NEXT SATURDAY ORANGE PARK AND PLA.

>> YES. DO YOU SEE ANY CONFLICT OR ANY PROBLEM PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO PLAY TO THE NEXT YEAR. PART OF THE DISCUSSION CHIEF MOATS AND I HAVE HAD IS THAT THE INCREASE IN BUDGETING FOR THIS HAS ALLOWED ME TO TAKE ALMOST 3 HOURS A MONTH OR SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 20 TO 30 HOURS A MONTH WITH CLINICAL DUTIES OF THE HOSPITAL. BUT SEVERAL DAYS PER WEEK. TO BE COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT RIGHT NOW ORG 2230 HOURS PER MONTH ON SITE IN THE HOSPITAL TAKING CARE OF PATIENTS IN THE ER WILL BE ABLE TO CUT IT TO 92 200 HOURS THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF THIS MORE TIME COMMUNITY AND AT LEAST ONE DAY A WEEK SOMETIMES TWICE A WEEK BEING IN THE COUNTY.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON.

JEREMY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF MOTES? >> JUST FOR, THIS IS TELEVISED RENT? THE PUBLIC IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN SALARY COMPARED TO WHAT WE WERE PAYING IN THE PAST. I THINK IT'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT

INCREASE IN SERVICES AS WELL. >> IT IS. ABSOLUTELY.

DOCTOR GIANNAS WAS NOT ABLE TO PROVIDE THE INFIELD SUPPORT THAT DOCTOR JUSTIN DEATON WILL PROVIDE. BEVERLY IS THE LION SHARE OF THE DIFFERENCE.

DOCTOR GIANNAS, HE'S GOT BIG SHOES TO FILL WHEN IT COMES TO HIM..

I WILL NEVER SAW HIM SHORT AT ALL. TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE IN THE FIELD WITH THE INDIVIDUALS PROVIDING THE HANDS-ON TRAINING THAT'S WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.

>> THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. >> OKAY.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? >> JUST FOR FURTHER UNDERSTANDING, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR ONE YEAR AND THE INTENTION IS TO REBID THIS OVER THE NEXT YEAR?S

THAT CORRECT? >> AT THIS POINT IT IS FOR ONE YEAR.

WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSIDERING A FULL-TIME MEDICAL DIRECTOR NEXT YEAR.

>> WHAT YOU THINK GOT A DEAL, I CAN GO EITHER WAY. EXPECTING CONSENT WOULD BE FINE

THEN IF SOMEONE POSTED THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WILL DISCUSS IT. >> IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITY. A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN SALARY TOO.

[2.  State Aid to Libraries Grant Application (M. Mosley)]

CONTENT IS FINE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

ITEM NUMBER 2 STATE ANCIENT LIBRARIES GRANT APPLICATION MEGAN?

LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE UP FOR 3 AND 4 OF THE NEXT ITEMS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MEGAN MOSTLY

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THIS IS FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED EACH YEAR FROM THE STATE.

IT HELPS SUPPORT BASIC LIBRARY ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS. THERE ARE NO MATCHING REQUIREMENTS. AND HOW THIS TYPICALLY WORKS IS WHEN THEY RELEASE THE APPLICATION THEY WILL ALSO RELEASE AN INITIAL FUNDING RECOMMENDATION AMOUNT.

SO FOR CLAY COUNTY THIS IS $77,339. ONCE YOU SUBMIT THE APPLICATION THEN YOU'RE ALSO TECHNICALLY SUBMITTING THE FUNDING AGREEMENT AS WELL BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS SET UP THAT IF YOU APPLY, THEY ARE INTENDING YOU PDO NEED THE BASIC ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. THEY WOULD GIVE BACK THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE ADVISED AMOUNT ONCE THEY FINALIZE THE AWARDS. SO THIS HAS AN OCTOBER 1

DEADLINE. THAT WAS LOOKING AT. >> HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO

PREVIOUS YEARS? >> THERE IS USUALLY AN ADJUSTMENT PERIOD.

KAREN IS HERE AS WELL. IT IS USUALLY ADJUSTED DOWN DEPENDING ON THE FORMULA FOR THE YEAR AND THE APPLICANT POOL. SO B& LOOKS GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON KAREN WALKER DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES. LAST YEAR FOR EXAMPLE I BELIEVE THE ESTIMATE WAS 72 WHEN WE CAME TO THE BOARD AND WE ENDED UP WITH 62.

>> OH, OKAY THEY GIVE AN ESTIMATE BASED ON FORMULA THAT THEY GIVE THE WORD BASED ON

ACTUALS. ASK YES. >> LOOKS LIKE WERE STILL GOING

TO GET MORE FUNDING THAN FROM LAST YEAR. >> IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT

[3.  National Leadership Grant for Libraries Application (M. Mosley)]

BECAUSE WERE STARTING AT ESTIMATE THAT TIRE. >> THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO QUESTIONS. >> I WOULD SAY CONSENT.

WITHOUT. ALL RIGHT. AND STAYING WITH LIBRARIES OF

THE NATIONAL LEADERSHIP GRANT FOR APPLICATION. >> THIS IS A FEDERAL GRANT APPLICATION. AGAIN NO MATCHING REQUIREMENTS. AS FOR CAPACITY BUILDING PROJECTS. SO THE LIBRARY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE UPDATING THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN WITH COMMUNITY INPUT AND STAKEHOLDER INVOLVEMENT.HIS WOULD INCLUDE GETTING A CONTRACTOR TO HELP FACILITATE THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND WE CAN ALSO BUILD IN SOME INDIRECT ADMINISTRATIVE COST INTO THIS PROPOSAL AS WELL.

FOR STAFF TIME. THIS APPLICATION IS STRUCTURED INTO 2 PHASES.

SO, PHASE 1 IS BASICALLY MERELY PRESCREENING FOR ELIGIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THE PROJECT ABSTRACT ALLIANCE WITH THE GRANT GOALS. THEN WE WOULD POSSIBLY BE INVITED FOR A PHASE 2 FULL APPLICATION. THAT'S WHAT WOULD REALLY BE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING.

THE FEES DEADLINE IS DUE SEPTEMBER 24. WITH FNA'S APPROVAL WE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT DEADLINE. AGAIN THERE IS NO POTENTIAL TO RECEIVE A FUNDING OFFER WITH PHASE 1. IF THE BCC WOULD HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS WE COULD

CERTAINLY WITHDRAW THE APPLICATION. >> WHEN YOU SAID THAT WE COULD BUILD AND DIRECT STAFF COST IN THEM TO MEET LIBRARY STAFF OR GRANT STAFF OR BOTH?

>> BOTH. IT WOULD BE EVERYTHING FROM TIME SPENT ON PEER IMPAIRMENT IN GETTING THE CONTRACT IN PLACE. LIBRARY STAFF TIME, GRANT STAFF TIME. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE INSTITUTE FOR MUSEUM AND

LIBRARY SERVICES TYPICALLY ALLOWS TO BUILDING 10 PERCENT. >> OKAY.

QUESTIONS? >> DEALS WITH THE SEPTEMBER 24 DEADLINE.

ARE WE WAITING UNTIL SEPTEMBER 21 FOR? >> THIS IS AN AREA SOME GRANT APPLICATIONS OR THERE'S A PHASE 1 AND PHASE 2 I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CLARIFY WITH THE GRANT POLICY AT WHAT POINT IT COMES TO FNA. I DID CONSULT WITH LEGAL AND PURCHASING THE ADVICE WE GO HAD A BRIEF FNA ON THIS PHASE 1 EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOTHING BUT

AN APPLICATION WITH RESULTS FROM THE PHASE 1 SUBMISSION. >> I GUESS IF WE WOULD'VE DONE

THIS A MONTH AGO. >> I UNDERSTAND. YES.

>> OKAY. >> I WOULD AGREE, THANK YOU. QUICKSILVER PHONE IN A LOCAL

[4.  Interlocal Agreement with the City of Keystone Heights for use of the County's Grant Staff (M. Mosley)]

>> GUESS. WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO CITY KEYSTONE HEIGHTS ABOUT PROVIDING MINISTERING OF SUPPORT TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN OF

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THEY WILL STILL BE THE AUTHORIZED SIGNER ON ALL REPORTS AND APPLICATIONS.

>> OKAY, QUESTIONS? >> YOU HAVE SPARE TIME. THAT'S WHAT READING HERE.

NO? >> IN THE AGREEMENT ESTIMATING AVERAGE OF 10 HOURS A WEEK OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL EVER FLOW AS THE PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD. I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THAT IF IT NEEDS CHANGE. THAT'S A STARTING POINT WITH.

THIS IS GOOD TO SEE THE COOPERATION WITH GRANTS. FUNDERS LIKE TO SEE BIGGER PROJECTS AND HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT A BIGGER POPULATION. SO IF YOU COULD HELP KEYSTONE,

ORANGE PARK, PETTY FARMS, GREEN COAT THAT'S ALL GOOD. >> ,SURPRISE THERE NOT HERE THIS AFTERNOON. BUT, LYNN PERKOWSKI DID CALL ME A FEW WEEKS AGO AND TOLD ME SHE WAS GOING TO TALK WITH YOU. I DIDN'T KNOW. I'M SURPRISED NOTHING ON HERE.

BUT ANY RATE I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HELP MUNICIPALITIES. BUT WE CAN.

AND CERTAINLY THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE. AFTER CONTRACT OUT IF THEY DO

ANY OF THIS. CONSENT? >> CONSENT.

[5.  Notice of Intent and Award of RFP #20/21-50, Design/Build - Department of Health Building Renovations (K. Thomas / G. Price)]

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 5 NOTICE OF INTENT AND AWARD OF RFP 20 /21 Ã50 DESIGN BUILD DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH BUILDING RENOVATIONS. I KNOW ONE PERSON IN THE GROUP THAT WAS SUPER HAPPY TO HEAR US. SHE SHOULD OF TAKEN IT SHARPIE ENTER ON HER MASK:-) THIS AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON MS. SMITH HOW

ARE YOU. >> GOOD, HOW ARE YOU WERE VERY HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS ITEM.

THIS IS THE BID AWARD OF THAT DESIGN BUILD FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS YOU MENTIONED.

FOR THE NEW CALL CENTER LOCATION. WE RECEIVED 2 BIZ.

WE HAD OVER 8 THAT ATTENDED THE ON-SITE PRE-BID MEETING BUT WILL PROCEED TO BINS.

BUT THEY ALL WAS OUR DESIGN PROFESSIONAL CRITERIA THEY PROVIDED THOSE SERVICES FLOAT A STATUTE RELATED TO DESIGN BUILD. WE HAVE BRIAN SAWYER HERE.

WITHOUT THEY HELPED US PREPARE THE BID PACKAGE FOR THE DESIGN BUILD AND THEY HELPED EVALUATE THE 2 PROPOSALS. SO WE GOT TO REALLY GOOD PROPOSALS.

THE SCORPIO GROUP DID SCORE THE HIGHEST AND THEY WERE THE OVERALL LOW BIDDER.

LOOKING TO AWARD THE BASE BID ALTERNATE TO AN ALTERNATE 3. FOR TOTAL OF $4,035,021 AND WHAT WE ALSO ASK IS WE COULD BRING THE DESIGN BUILD CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD AT THE NEXT MEETING. I WASN'T QUITE PREPARED FOR TODAY'S FINANCE AND AUDIT DIRECTED TO THE BOARD. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE HEATHER EXTREMELY HAPPY. ASK ABOUT ANOTHER:-). WE'VE GOTTEN TO HIM ONE DAY.

QUESTIONS? >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD WAS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN ALTERNATIVE 3. BETWEEN THE 2 BIDDERS. MOST, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M SORRY, THE OTHER THING, THE ALTERNATIVE ONE INTO THE SAME. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

THE WORDS OF THE SAME. SURE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE. >> WILL BRING BRIAN UP BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU THOUGHTS WHAT TOOK US A LITTLE WHILE TO REVIEW THESE BIDS AND BRING IT TO YOU. WE DID REACH BACK OUT TO SCORPION AND HAVE THEM ANSWER AND CLARIFY TO BE SURE THEY UNDERSTOOD THE BID SPECIFICATIONS VERY WELL BECAUSE OF THAT EXACT REASON. THEY PROVIDED US THE ANSWERS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

THAT'S WHY WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE THE RECOMMENDATION. I COULD HAVE BRIAN DISCUSS

THAT. WHAT HIS THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON GOOD AFTERNOON BRIAN TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION CONTINUE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

WE HAD TO MENTION 3 ALTERNATIVES ON THE PROJECT 2 OF WHICH WERE FOR UPGRADED HVAC WILL FILTRATION THE BUILDING TO HELP WITH THE SERVICES PERFORMED THERE.

THE SAME KIND OF REACTION THAT YOU DID ABOUT THE DISCREPANCY THAT WAS THERE.

WE DID WAS REACH BACK ONTO SCORPIOPERFORMANCE AND CONFIRM THAT THEY HAD BASICALLY EVERYTHING COVERED IN THE SCOPE BECAUSE WE ALL PLAYED OR OUTLINED WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE NEXT 3 WERE VERY SPECIFIC. THIS IS WHAT IS MY TAKE OF THIS IS WHAT'S INCLUDED.

WE WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD EVERYTHING THAT WE ANTICIPATED THEY HAD. THEY CONFIRMED AND THEY SAID YES THEY HAVE EVERYTHING

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COVERED THAT'S IN THOSE ALTERNATES. >> WHAT IS IT DIFFERENT BETWEEN ALTERNATIVE ONE ALTERNATIVE TO QUICK FOR BOTH REEF BUILDING 400 FILTRATION.

>> DOCUMENT ONE WAS TO PROVIDE BIPOLAR ORGANIZATION. NOT TO GET TO INTO THE TECHNICAL IT'S BASICALLY A LIGHT FILTERING SYSTEM FOR THE MECHANICAL SYSTEM TO TRY AND

TRAP AND ELIMINATE PARTICLES IF YOU WILL IN THAT AIRSTREAM. >> BIOLOGICS.

>> YES, BASICALLY. OPPORTUNITY WAS TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY THAT BY POLARIZED NATION

TO PROVIDE HEPA FILTRATION SYSTEM ON THAT HVAC SYSTEM. >> OH, OKAY.

THERE'S OR AND AND AND. >> THAT'S WHAT WE HAD EYEBROW RAISE TO.

ONE OF THE NUMBERS SAME IF ONE STATE OR ONE IS AN AND. THAT'S WHY WE WERE TRYING TO BE VERY, VERY CLEAR WITH THEM AND SAY YOU DO REALIZE THAT THIS IS NOT THE SAME EVEN THOUGH THEY

MAY CLOSELY READ THE SAME THING OR NOT. >> AND THE PRICES ARE THE SAME.

>> YES SIR. SO WE HAVE TO GO ON WHAT THEY TELL US I GUESS.

>> THEY UNDERSTAND AND THEY ARE STANDING BY THE PRICE. >> YES.

EXACTLY. IT WAS KIND OF AN EYEBROW RAISING FOR US.

WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THEY ARE ACCURATE IN THEIR PORTRAYAL AND THEY HAVE IT COVERED.

>> I THINK IT'S SCOPE AND THE COMMISSION HAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> I WOULD AGREE. ALSO THE FACT THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO BRING BACK THE AGREEMENT ANYWAY. HE WOULD HAVE TO OF, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO NOT DISCUSS THEM AT THE SAME TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU.

[6.  Extension to Second Renewal of the Uniform Rental and Cleaning Services Agreement #2016/2017-6 with Unifirst Corporation (K. Thomas)]

THOUGHT YOU WERE OUT HERE. >> YES. WE HAVE A COUNTYWIDE UNIFORM POLICY AT THIS BID WE PUT OUT EACH YEAR COVERS THE RENTAL AND THE CLEANING SERVICES FOR OUR UNIFORMS. WE DO HAVE A CURRENT BID OUT RIGHT NOW.

STUPAK OCTOBER 4. IN CASE WE GO WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR WE WANT A LITTLE TIME TO GET THEM ON BOARD AND HAVE THEM COME IN AND MEASURE STAFF AND PREPARED TO PROVIDE THE UNIFORMS AS NEEDED.

WE ASKED FOR A 3 MONTH EXTENSION. >> ARE THERE STILL ONLY 2

PEOPLE IN THE AREA THEY DO THAT? >> WE'VE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME TRYING TO LOCATE POTENTIAL BIDDERS. WE ACTUALLY SEND IT OUT TO ABOUT 5. I THINK THERE'S 2 BIG COMPANIES THAT COMPETE FOR THIS.

>> YA. >> THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF THE PCURRENT PRICE?

>> YES. YES SIR. NO CHANGE.

>> AND ONLY FOR 3 MONTHS. I WOULD SAY CONSENT AND THEN I MENTIONED THE OTHER ONE HE WILL

BRING BACK THAT BID IS BACK. >> ABSOLUTELY. WILL BRING BACK THE WORD

[7.  Construction and Maintenance Agreement with the Florida Department of Transportation-CR220 at the Intersection of Town Center Parkway Improvements and Accompanying Resolution (R. Smith)]

CONTRACT. >> OKAY. YOU'RE OKAY WITH CONSENT?

>> CONSENT. >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 7. CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON COUNTY ROAD 220 AT THE INTERSECTION OF

TOWNCENTER PARKWAY IMPROVEMENTS AND ACCOMPANY RESOLUTION. >> YES.

EXACTLY WHAT YOU SENT. THIS IS A CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THE COUNTY ROAD 220 INTERSECTION PROJECT THAT IS TO BID OUT AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DOT. DIVORCE FOR A COUPLE OF CHANGES FOR BID DOCUMENTS WHICH ARE MAKING AND PLANT IT WILL COME OUT ON SEPTEMBER 30 OR DECEMBER 7. THEY WENT AHEAD AND SENT US THE CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT. THIS IS VERY TYPICAL FOR OUR LAB PROJECTS COULD BECOME THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT AFTER IT'S COMPLETED AND HOW TO MAINTAIN IT. I DIDN'T THINK RICHARD WOULD BE HERE BUT HE MADE IT.

HE CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BUT WERE EXCITED TO GET THIS BID OUT AND HOPEFULLY B& PARTS THIS IS A STANDARD PROCESS LEVEL AGREEMENT.'M GOOD WITH CONSENT.

[8.  FY21/22 Funding Agreement with Urban Jacksonville, Inc. d/b/a Aging True Community Senior Services (V. Hapner)]

[9.  Lease Agreement with Urban Jacksonville, Inc., d/b/a Aging True Community Senior Services (V. Hapner)]

>> I AGREE. THANK YOU. RIGHT ITEM NUMBER 8. FY 21/22 FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH URBAN JACKSONVILLE INCORPORATED DOING BUSINESS AS A CHANGE TO

COMMUNITY SENIOR SERVICES. >> HELLO. VICTORIA R. THIS IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH THE AGING TRUE COMMUNITY SENIOR SERVICES WHICH PROVIDE OUR CHILD YOU'RE ALL WET. I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS I DON'T THINK THERE ARE MANY CHANGES FROM THE PAST AGREEMENT.

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>> QUESTIONS? >> NO, SEE WE LEASE THEM THE FACILITIES THAT THEY OPERATED

OUT OF. >> YES. THAT'S ACTUALLY NUMBER 9.

>> OH YEAH, OKAY. I THINK THIS IS MANDATED BY THE STATE, IT'S A STATE CONTRACT?

HOW DOES THIS ALL WORK? >> A FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT MANDATED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THEN RUN THROUGH THE STATE AND ELDER SOURCE. SO YES.

THE RENT THE FACILITIES, THE 10 FACILITIES WE HAVE OR EXCUSE ME 8 FACILITIES.

>> 4. >> OR WHERE WAS AN 80,000 FROM. IN MY MIND 10,000 PUMP.

>> ONE DOLLAR APIECE. FOR THAT. THERE'S ANOTHER SECTION WHERE WERE TALKING ABOUT LATER. TROY COME ON UP AND HELPING WITHOUT ONE.

AND THEN INSERT. IT'S RUN BY ELDER SOURCE THROUGH THE STATE.

>> ELDER SOURCE AS A CONTRACTOR FOR THE STATE. IS THAT CORRECT?> THAT IS CORRECT. THEY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT COMPANIES TO CHOOSE FROM.

BETTER OUT THERE. BUT, THE ELDER SOURCE IS THE MEAN.

>> THE $80,000 THE COUNTY MANAGER IS REFERRING TO IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDINGS.

WE GIVE AN ALLOWANCE THIS YEAR WERE GOING UP TO AN ALLOWANCE OF $40,000 FOR THE 40 BUILDINGS. IN ADDITION THERE IS OUR CONDITIONER PREPARE THE DISCRETE MAINEDOT INCLUDING THAT INTO THE $80,000 BUDGET ITEM FOR MAINTAINING THE SENIOR ENTERS. THAT'S WHERE THE $80,000 COME FROM.

>> OKAY. >> I GUESS WERE GOING WITH THE QUESTIONING AS WE REALLY DON'T

HAVE MUCH OF A DECISION HERE, RIGHT? >> THE QUESTION WAS ASKED BEFORE. WE WILL DO SOME RESEARCH. VICTORIA WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THE ONLY OTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO BRING THE SERVICE WITHIN HOUSE. LOOKS RIGHT. MICAH SET THE TONE OF AN

OPTION. >> BUT, THERE MAY BE SOME. THERE ARE RELATIVELY NEW.

I THINK IS IT 2018 2019 IS ONLY WENT FROM COUNSEL AGING TO AGING TRUE.

AND THE REASONS WHY THAT HAPPENS. SO, AS ALWAYS, NOTHING IS DEFINITE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE VICTORIA LET US KNOW.

>> I COULDN'T RESOURCE ALTERNATIVES. >> BUT TODAY THIS IS THE ONLY

OPTION. >> AT THIS MINUTE, YES SIR. >> THERE IS A CLAUSE FOR EARLY TERMINATION. ANTON A NUMBER ONE. WE COME TO THAT.

YES SIR. >> IT'S BEEN NO SECRET THAT I'M NOT HAPPY WITH AGING TRUE SERVICES. AND I'M NOT HAPPY BECAUSE CONSTITUENTS ARE NOT HAPPY.

IN 2 OF THESE SENIOR CENTERS ARE IN MY DISTRICT. AND I'VE HAD NOTHING BUT COMPLAINTS SINCE AGING TRUE HAS TAKEN OVER. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHY THE CHANGES FROM COUNSEL AGING WERE MADE. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS. BUT, THIS IS A CHOICE FOR THESE RESIDENTS TO GO THERE AND TO BE TREATED MUCH LIKE CHILDREN IS NOT DESIRABLE WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT PHASE OF YOUR LIFE.

AND MY FRUSTRATIONS HAS BEEN THAT THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE CONSULTING THE COUNTY ON ANY OF OUR POLICIES. THEY'RE JUST DOING THINGS ON THEIR OWN.

YESTERDAY IT WOULD APPEAR BECAUSE MY BUSINESS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS ONE. I SEE EVERY DAY. IT WOULD APPEAR THEY'VE GONE BACK TO TO GO ONLY MEALS. AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

WE GET THE WEEKLY UPDATES ON HELPING MALES THEY SERVE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW.S THERE A PROBLEM? OR, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DID THAT. IT WOULD APPEAR NOW CARS LETTING UP THE LINE UP, THE PARKING LOT IS NOT DESIGNED WELL FOR THEM TO FIND OUT. SO THERE OUT ON THE STREET.N HARM'S WAY AS WELL. THEN THEY GET OUT OF THEIR CARS AND TALK TO EACH OTHER AND YOU KNOW. IF WE CAN'T BE INSIDE BECAUSE WE NEED A SOCIAL DISTANCE THAT WE SHOULD BE OUT OF OUR CARS TALKING TO EACH OTHER. SO, ANYWAY.

>> NEGATIVELY GET YOU AN ANSWER ON WHETHER CHANGES ARE MADE FOR THAT AS WELL.

>> YEAH. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS HOW IT WAS WITH THE OTHERS.

AT ANY RATE. WE PROBABLY, IT WAS EITHER COMMISSIONER: ASKED IF WE HAVE OPTIONS ON THIS.SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD JUST DISCUSS IT ANYWAY.

>> OKAY. MICROSOFT RESEARCH SOME ALTERNATIVES AND GET TO THE

ANSWER TO THE QUESTION YOU HAD. >> ALL RIGHT. WE WILL DO DISCUSSION FOR BOTH 8 AND 9 I GUESS. I GUESS BECAUSE-GOES ALONG WITH P8.

[10.  Insurance Coverage Recommendations from the County's Agent of Record (J. Bethelmy)]

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>> YES-IS A LISTING OF THE PROPERTIES SO THE 2 GO HAND-IN-HAND.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT ITEM NUMBER 10.

INSURANCE COVERAGE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE COUNTY'S AGENT OF RECORD.

BETHANY GRANTS HIGH COMMISSIONS. WERE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR THE PACKAGE FOR THE PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCE. WE HAVE SEVERAL LINES OF INSURANCES THAT WE HAVE GOT QUOTES FOR. AND I CAN READ DOWN COUPLE OF THEM. THE ONE THING I WILL SAY THAT IN YOUR POCKET AT THE TIME WE LOADED THE DOCUMENT WE DID NOT HAVE TO PIECES OF INFORMATION. BUT WE STILL HAVE THOSE TODAY WHICH I WILL TALK ABOUT. IN TERMS OF, WE ARE ASKING FOR PROPERTY INSURANCE.

THE INLAND MARINE GENERAL LIABILITY AUTOMOBILE, CRIME PUBLIC OFFICIALS INSURANCE.

EXCESS WORKER'S COMPENSATION. CYBER LIABILITY AND STORAGE TANK LIABILITY.

IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE INCREASES THAT WE EXPERIENCED. UNDER THE PROPERTY IT WAS THE ACQUISITION OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PROPERTY AND THAT ACCOUNTED FOR $5 MILLION INCREASE. IN TERMS OF THE INLAND MARINE LIABILITY WAS THE PROCUREMENT OF SEVERAL PIECES OF LARGE EQUIPMENT FOR PUBLIC WORKS. SUCH AS A GENERATOR, MOTOR GRADERS, FLOATERS ALSO SOME PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATIONS.

THE 2 PIECES THAT YOU DID NOT IN YOUR PACKET WAS SPECIFIC TO THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS LIABILITY.

THE COST FOR THAT. THIS CURRENT YEAR IS $34,199. AND THAT GOES 237 $770.

WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 10 PERCENT. AND ALSO THE OTHER ITEM WAS CYBER LIABILITY. THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE LEVEL OF COVERAGE THAT WE WILL HAVE AS WELL AS THE PREMIUM. AND CONSIDERING THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ARE IN WE HAVE A LOT OF FREQUENCY AND CYBERCRIME. AND THAT IS WHAT THE COVERS.

IN ADDITION UNDER THE EXCESS WORKER'S COMPENSATION YOU'RE ASKING FOR A ONE-YEAR RENEWAL WHICH IS AT THE SAME LEVEL OF COVERAGE WE HAVE TODAY. IN YOUR PACKET THERE IS A GUARANTEE OF OPTION AS WELL. IT DOES INCREASE OUR COST IN THE FUTURE YEARS.

THIS RECENT WHITE WERE TRYING TO GET JUST ONE YEAR FOR THAT. OVERALL, DIFFERENCE IN THE TOTAL PACKAGE IS 15 PERCENT INCREASE. THERE ARE SOME THAT, IT VARIES

BASED ON THE LEVEL OF COVERAGE THAT WE HAVE. >> ABOUT SURPRISE GIVEN THE NATIONAL CYBER THREATS THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST 6 MONTHS.

PRIMARILY I GUESS ALL OVER THE WORLD.THOSE KINDS OF RATES ARE GOING THE WAY THAT THEY ARE.

THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS ONE IS INTERESTING. ANYWAY.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER? >> YES, I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. I GUESS IT WOULD BE BETTER ADDRESSED BY YOUR WITH BRANDON

BROWN? >> OUR BROKERS HERE. >> I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS DO YOU LOOK AT EXPERIENCE, LOOK IN THE REARVIEW MIRROR AND EXPERIENCE OF THE LAST 2 YEARS OR 3 YEARS OR 5 YEARS, 10 YEARS TO ASSESS WHAT OUR CLAIM HAVE BEEN OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME

OR DO WE JUST LOOK FORWARD? >> UNDERWRITERS WILL TAKE IN ACCOUNT EXPOSURE CHANGES, THE EXCESS INSURANCE COST, LOSS EXPERIENCE OF A GENERAL GROUP AT A LOSS EXPERIENCE OF THE INDIVIDUALS. GENERALLY THEY WOULD USE A 5 YEARS IN ARREARS.

THEN I LOOK FORWARD WOULD BE MITIGATED BY ME UNDER IDEAL CIRCUMSTANCES.

TALKING ABOUT CERTAIN LOSS CONTROL MEASURES, SAFETY MEASURES OF THE COUNTY IS

TAKING THE MAIN CHANGE THE TREND OF LOSSES IN THE FUTURE. >> YEAH.

SO, WHEN I LOOK BACK 5 YEARS THEY LOOK BACK AT THE GROUP ARE THEY LOOK BACK AT THE

INDIVIDUAL? >> IT'S INTERESTING. PROPERTY IS VERY COLD.

BECAUSE THE CATASTROPHIC NATURE OF SUDDEN LOSSES ESPECIALLY IN FLORIDA AND OTHER COASTAL AREAS IN THE UNITED STATES. YOUR INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCE WITH HURRICANES DOES NOT CREATE A LOSS FACTOR WHICH IS APPLIED TO YOUR PROPERTY. PROPERTY RATES ARE BASED ON LOSSES FOR THE WHOLE ENTIRE NATION AND WORLD QUITE HONESTLY.

WORKER'S COMPENSATION IS VERY SPECIFIC TO YOUR COUNTY. CYBER RIGHT NOW AS SOMEONE

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>> OKAY. DEDUCTIBLE. ANOTHER POSSIBLE PART OF THOUSAND DOLLAR DEDUCTIBLE. NOW WE HAVE 25,000. COMMISSION 3 YEARS AGO, 5 YEARS AGO THOUGHT 100,000 WAS APPROPRIATE. IS IT TODAY WHAT YOUR

RECOMMENDATION GIVEN BY COUNTY. >> OF HOW THE FORTUNE OF MANAGING RISK MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WITH 3 DIFFERENT RISK MANAGERS FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. I CAN TELL YOU SOME OF THE BODIES ARE BURIED AT SOME OF THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT WENT INTO HOW THE PROGRAM HAS MORPHED. THOUSAND DOLLAR DEDUCTIBLE WAS RELATIVELY FORTH FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE OF SOME VERY BAD LOSS EXPERIENCE. THINGS WERE OUT OF CONTROL.

THAT DEDUCTIBLE WAS IMPOSED SO AS RAISE 200,000. WE GOT AGGRESSIVE CLAIMS MANAGEMENT WE STARTED A SIDEBAR PROGRAM. WE DID SOME INSPECTIONS.

AND WE KIND OF RIGHT SIZE THE SHIP. WHEN THAT LOSS EXPERIENCE GOT VERY GOOD I WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THE SAME RATE UNDER $25,000 DEDUCTIBLE.

SO IT WASN'T SO MUCH OF THE HUNDRED THOUSAND WAS DESIRABLE OF THE WORK WAS ACTUALLY THE NORM AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT BACK DOWN TO 25 WITHOUT ANY RATE INCREASE.

>> THE STATE MANDATE NAMED STORM DAMAGE DEDUCTIBLES 2 PERCENT AFTER PROVIDED BY 2 PERCENT. CAN WE REQUEST 3 PERCENT TO 5 PERCENT, 10 PERCENT?

>> PROBABLY WOULD NOT 10. INLAND COUNTIES CAN GENERATE WHEN THERE ARE 2 AND 3 PERCENT.

PRIVATE CONSIDER PUNITIVE. MOST ENTITIES AND AGAIN ALL I DO IS PUBLIC ENTITY INSURANCE I HAVE 26 YEARS. I'VE WORKED A TON OF HURRICANE CLAIMS AND CASHLESS BIG ISSUE.

IF YOU GO FROM A 2 PERCENT WIND DEDUCTIBLE TO A 3 TOWNSITE ONE PERCENT BUT IT'S A 50 PERCENT INCREASE. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DEDUCTIBLE.

2 PERCENT DEDUCTIBLE IS APPLIED EACH LOCATION THAT HAS A LOSS TOTAL INSURED VALUE.

THE DEDUCTIBLE FOR THIS BUT IT WOULD BE QUITE A NORM IS QUITE HONESTLY.

YOU'RE REALLY COMING IN FIRST POINT OF INSURANCE IS FEMA. FOR THESE KIND OF LARGE DISASTERS. THE WAY PREFERRED PROGRAM WORKS IS AN INSURANCE TRUST.

THE INSURANCE MARKETPLACE IS DOMINATED BY INSURANCE POOLS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

3 FM IT AND YOU'VE GOT PAGE IN WHICH AGGRESSIVE AND WITH A LONG TIME, SMALL ONE, PRM.

WITHIN THOSE PROGRAMS THE REASON WHY THEY'RE SO FINANCIALLY STABLE AND THEY CAN OFFER MUCH BETTER GRADES, COMMERCIAL ROLE FOR PUBLICATION AGENCIES.

IS THAT THEY PULL ALL OF THE RISK THAT THEY GO BY THESE GIANT AMOUNTS OF INSURANCE.

IT'S DIFFICULT WITHIN THESE PROGRAMS TO CHANGE THE DEDUCTIBLES THAT ARE ARCTIC NEGOTIATE THE COMMERCIAL WORLD. IF WE WERE, AND I HAD A LOT OF LARGE INSURANCES, TALLAHASSEE, FOR DON'T ON THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEN THOSE STRUCTURES BECAUSE THEY ARE TO LARGE TO BE IN A POOL WE DO NEGOTIATE THOSE 2, THREES AND FIVES.

YOUR QUESTION IS RELATIVE TO RISK MANAGEMENT AND GET A COST OF RISK THAT'S BALANCED.

PERHAPS RELATIVELY TIED BECAUSE WERE IN A POOL. NOW ONE OF $0.27 RATE WHICH IS VERY DESIRABLE QUITE HONESTLY. I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY KNOW OF ANY OTHER ENTITY THAT'S QUITE THAT LOW. THAT'S A RATE PER HUNDRED DOLLARS OF PROPERTY.

AND JENNIFERTO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF BENCHMARKING. PROBABLY ONE OF THE RATES ARE NEGOTIATING FOR MY CLIENTS ARE EFFECTIVE AND ARE BETTER THAN AVERAGE.

I COULD TELL YOU YOURS MUCH BETTER THAN AVERAGE. SO IT'S A BLESSING TO BE IN A POOL RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE OF THE VOLATILITY OF THE MARKET.

IT ALSO GIVES US I GUESS YOU WERE OPTIONS. BUT, AGAIN WHAT WE BE TRYING TO DO IF WE WERE IN A COMMERCIAL WAS TO TAKE A $0.40 RATE MAYBE GET IT DOWN TO 38.

IT'S NOT A TRADE-OFF THAT WOULD BE COST-EFFECTIVE IN MY OPINION.

>> UNFAMILIAR WITH EFREN AFANTE. DO YOU SHOP WITH FM IT?

>> THEY SELL DIRECT. DO BENCHMARK ALL OF THEIR RENEWALS.

ONE OF THE BEAUTIES OF THE PUBLIC RECORDSLAW. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IMPOSING SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER RENEWAL RATE CHANGES THAT I'VE SEEN AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO NEGOTIATE. APPLE PUTNAM'S EXAMPLE, YOUR NEIGHBOR.

THEY'VE GONE UP 16 PERCENT, 13 PERCENT. THEY ARE PAYING CLOSE TO $0.50 PER HUNDRED RIGHT NOW. THERE ALMOST DOUBLE WHERE YOU ARE.

SO I FELT REALLY COMFORTABLE AND I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS TAKEN QUOTES FOR THEM THE PAST.

[00:45:06]

IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW. >> WHAT IS BUSINESS INCOME IF INSURANCE FOR BUSINESS INCOME.

LAST TIME I CHECKED THEM OUT OF BUSINESS. >> SO THAT INSURANCE WHICH IS

PROVIDED NO CONSEQUENCE HONESTLY. >> AS PART OF A PACKAGE.

>> YES EXACTLY RIGHT. IT'S THROWN IN THERE. IT'S FOR THE LOSS OF NET INCOME. IF WE WERE TO HAVE A CATASTROPHIC EVENT OR A FIRE FOR THAT MATTER WE WERE UNABLE TO COLLECT OR CHARGE FOR SERVICES.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THERE'S VERY LITTLE ENTERPRISE PROFIT BE MADE AT THE COUNTY'S LEVEL. BUT, LET'S SAY WE LOST OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS THE FIRE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO CHARGE A FEE TO RENT THEM. SO WE COULD FILE A CLAIM GET THAT INCOME LOSS. IT'S NOT A MAJOR EXPOSURE OF THE COUNTY.

ALONG THE SAME LINES IT'S TIME DEVELOPMENT COVERAGE. THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE WHICH IS REALLY WHERE YOUR EXPOSURE IS. COUNTIES OF PUBLIC ENTITIES CANNOT BE DOWN FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME IF AT ALL. SO THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE PAYS TO GET YOU BACK UP AND RUNNING, RENT SPACE, EXPEDITE REPAIRS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT LIMIT WE DO HAVE INCREASE OF $10 MILLION PER OCCURRENCE. SO THEY WILL BOTH GO HAND-IN-HAND.

IF YOU'RE A MANUFACTURER YOU BE WORRIED ABOUT LOSS INCOME. HERE REALLY NOT.

>> LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS NEVER SEEN SOCIAL ENGINEERING INSURANCE.

EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME. WHAT IS IT. >> 5 YEARS AGO THERE WAS NO

SUCH THING. >> THAT'S WHY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT.

>> I LEARNED MORE ABOUT CURRENT ALASKA 2 YEARS AND EVER WANTED TO.

MY HEAD IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE WITH ALL OF THESE NEW RISKS. IS ALSO KNOWN AS FALSE IMPERSONATION. SO, THE COUNTY COULD GET AN EMAIL FROM SOMEONE PRETENDING TO BE A VENDOR OR EVEN AN EMPLOYEE AND SAY HEY, I HAVE A NEW ACCOUNT LIKE YOU TO REDIRECT MY PAYCHECKS TO THE BANK OF RUSSIA AS OPPOSED TO WELLS FARGO.

AND PLATE WITH A OH, OKAY WE WILL CENTER MANY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

WHICH IS BEEN SOCIALLY ENGINEERED. AND IT HAPPENS.

I'VE HAD SOME HUGE LOSSES. >> OF RALEIGH. >> EARLY ON.

I THINK EMPLOYEE IS A LOT MORE AWARE OF THESE KIND OF THINGS. PROMISE WAS TO CLICK ON STUFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS PUT ON SOMETHING THAT HE GOT A GOOD REMEDIAL TRAINING.

THAT'S ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T CLICK ON SOMETHING A SECOND TIME.

>> PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ORANGE PARK FLORIDA PUBLIC 5 YEARS AGO, 8 YEARS AGO.

LABOR DAY WEEKEND FRIDAY AFTERNOON. STAFF GOT A PHONE CALL FROM A REVOCABLE WITH YOUR ACCOUNT COULD YOU LOGIN FOR US AND LET US LOOK AT YOUR ACCOUNT.

PRESENTED LOGIN AND IMMEDIATELY $250,000 WAS REMOVED FROM OUR ACCOUNT.

EMMA GOT BACK QUICKLY. IT CAN HAPPEN.>> I THINK CYBERCRIME IS ONE OF THE LARGEST EXPOSURES PUBLIC ENTITIES FACE TODAY. IT IS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE.

IT CHANGES SO RAPIDLY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT HURRICANES BUT ABOUT HER CANCER RELATIVELY PREDICTABLE RANK WHEN COMPARED TO CYBERCRIME WHICH YOU JUST GAVE AN INSTANCE OF AN IT COULD HAPPEN SO QUICKLY. BUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AT RISK IS IN OUR BEST.

FOR GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES. IT'S REALLY THE NEWEST RISK THAT NEEDS ADDRESSING WITH THE

UTMOST ATTENTION. >> I'M DONE. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US

YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> I'M SORRY THE QUESTIONS CAME FAST.AUL DAWSON, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT WITH PUBLIC RISK AND SERVICE ADVISORS AND WERE DIVISION RUNAROUND.

>> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS.

I'M FLYING TO PUT IT ON CONSENT. >> I'M FINE WITH CONSENT.

>> IF SOMEONE WANTS T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THEY CAN WATCH THE F IN A MEETING AND THEN PULL IT IF THEY WANT. I'M FINE. THANK YOU.

[11.  Directed Payment Program Letter of Agreement with the State of Florida, Agency for Health Care Administration (C. Grimm)]

FLORIDA AGENCY FOR HEALTHCARE MINISTRATION. >> THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU APPROVED AT THE BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK.

IT'S JUST THE AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE THAT ONCE WE RECEIVE THE PAYMENTS FROM THE HOSPITAL

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> OKAY. QUESTIONS? CONSENT.

THANK YOU. MR. COUNTY MANAGER. >> OTHER THAN JUST A WONDERFUL EVENT ON FRIDAY MARY ELLEN OF THE MOODY AVENUE DEDICATION WAS JUST WONDERFUL.

AND THEN LEADING INTO THE WEEKEND AND FOR THE POW MIA FLAG.

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ANYBODY VISITING CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION EARLIER TODAY WITH JANE. I DON'T SEE JANE. THERE HE IS.

GETTING HER OWN FLYING OUT HERE FOR THE ADMIN BUILDING AND OTHER LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. I'LL BE BRINGING UP TO THE BOARD LOOKING FOR APPROVAL.

OTHER THAN THAT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU. RIVER UNDERSHERIFF THIS AFTERNOON.

DOES HE HAVE ANYTHING? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> ARE YOU UNDERCOVER?

>> THE MASK IS OFF, NEVER UNDERCOVER. >> WHATEVER CLERK OF THE

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