Aug 17, 2021 Finance and Audit Meeting Agenda

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I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING OF AUGUST 17, 2021.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

[1.  Exclusive Agreement for Use of Property Tax Collections to Fund Homestead Exemption Audit Services (C. Grimm)]

FUND HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AUDIT SERVICES. >> AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. EXACTLY WHAT ITS TITLE SAYS. WE DO HAVE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

THIS IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE AUDIT THAT THE BOARD HAD INQUIRED ABOUT AND THAT THE

PROPERTY APPRAISER WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN MOVING FORWARD. >> OKAY.

QUESTIONS? >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD IS THERE ANY PROVISION TO LOOK AT PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT HOMESTEADED AND SHOULD BE HOMESTEADED TO I MEAN, THAT HAS

TO BE A SPECIAL LOOK I THINK. >> YES, SIR. >> HOLD ON.

CAN YOU HEAR, IS THE MIC ON? OKAY THEY CAN HEAR YOU. >> YES, SIR THIS AUDIT ONLY LOOKS AT EXISTING HOMESTEADS. JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CROWDS, THE CLAY COUNTY IS ABOUT 60,016 HOMESTEADS. WITHIN THIS AUDIT WENT TO HIS DISCOVERY AS YOU KNOW THE RFP PROCESS PRESELECTED TRUE ROLE. THEY WILL AUDIT THESE, THE READY TO GO.

I HAD A CONVERSATION JUST A SECOND AGO. THE TAX COLLECTOR AND I SIGNED THE AGREEMENT AND SO HAS TRUE ROLE. I EXPECT THAT BACK TODAY ACTUALLY. THEY WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS. I THINK THEY WILL GET THROUGH THIS FAIRLY QUICK IN THE NEXT 6 MONTHS OR LESS. THEN IT'S TURNED OVER TO US.

I WILL REVIEW WHAT THEY'VE INVESTIGATED. WE FILED LIENS ON THOSE THAT HAVE AN ELIGIBLE EXEMPTIONS. ONCE THE TAXES ARE PAID THEN THE TAX COLLECTOR WOULD WITHHOLD 25 PERCENT OF THOSE FUNDS AND IT WOULD BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE TAX AUTHORITIES. LIKE HE WAS A TAX AUTHORITY I'VE REQUESTED THE AGREEMENT TO BE BACK BY SEPTEMBER 1. SO WE CAN GET MOVING. BUT, AS FAR AS THOSE THAT SHOULD HAVE HOMESTEAD WE DO A COUPLE THINGS. WE DO A WELCOME NEIGHBOR PACKAGED EVERY NEW HOMEOWNER IN THE COUNTY. WE ALSO DO A PROCESS THAT WE DEVELOPED THROUGH THE REALTORS TO WHERE WE MATCH THEIR SALES ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT IS PART OF PROPERTY THAT THE MAILING ADDRESS AND THE PHYSICAL ADDRESS ARE THE SAME.

AND WE SEND THEM A REMINDER, COURTESY CARD THAT SAYS ME KNOWS YOU DON'T HAVE HOMESTEAD.

MAYBE YOU NEED TO APPLY. WE DO WORKSHOPS. WE PUT ADS IN THE NEWSPAPER, ON FACEBOOK. BUT, PLEASE SEND IN INITIAL AND THEN WE SEND A COURTESY REMINDER LATER. WE FIND I THINK I'VE TOLD YOU. THROUGH THE REALTORS IF THEY SENT US A LIST OF THE PROPERTY THEY'VE SOLD IN A PRIOR YEAR. I HAD ONE PARTICULAR FRIEND AND REALTOR THAT HAD SOLD 70 HOMES AND ONLY 14 OF THE 70 HAD PEOPLE FILED HOMESTEAD.

I AGREE. THERE'S AN ISSUE, THERE'S A GAP SOMEWHERE.WERE DOING OUR BEST

TO FIND IT. >> THAT QUESTION COMES FROM A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WHERE HAD A FRIEND WHOSE SON BOUGHT A HOME. IT JUST WASN'T IMPORTANT ENOUGH.

>> IT WILL BE WHEN THEY GET THAT TAX BILL. MAXWELL, SEE IT'S HIDDEN IN THE

MORTGAGE. AND THEY DON'T SEE IT. >> OH, OKAY.

SO THAT I HAVE TO WRITE THE CHECK EVERY NOVEMBER. >> NOW, IT'S ALL PART OF THE MORTGAGE. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE HAVE PROGRAMS FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT NOW WITH THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ALLOWANCES ARE AND I'M HEARING ADEQUATE YOU KNOW

INFORMATION FLOW THAT IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE. >> 2 THINGS WERE ADJUSTED IN THE TOWN OF ORANGE PARK ACTUALLY. TO WHERE WE MAILED A NOTICE FOR A WORKSHOP IN THE UTILITY BILL. TO EVERYBODY THE GUTTER UTILITY BILL BE SAID, HERE'S ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR HOMESTEAD, SENIORS, OR THE EXEMPTIONS.

WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT FOR THAT. SPEAKING THE CITY OF GREENE COVE ABOUT FILLING OUT NOTICES LIKE THAT WITH THE UTILITY BILL. AND ANOTHER THING THE TRIM NOTICES, THE NOTICE OF HER PAST TAX WILL BE METAL FRIDAY. WHEN YOU RECEIVE YOUR SHORT NOTICE THERE'S AN INSERT ON THE BACK THAT INSERT IS A LIST OF ALL THE EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. WE PROBABLY GET AS MUCH THROUGH THAT PROCESS AS A REMINDER WHEN THEY REALIZED THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXEMPTION. WHEN THEY SEE WITH OUR TAXES MIGHT BE WITHOUT IT WE USUALLY GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS FROM NO TOO.

>> YEAH. I'D RECOMMEND CONTENT. >> I AGREE.

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[2.  Notice of Intent and Award of Bid No.20/21-53, Construction of Clay County Gun Range (K. Smith/G. Price)]

>> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. GENE PRICE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES. HERE TO RECOMMEND THE INTENT OF THE WORK BID 20/21 Ã53 THAT CURRENTLY COUNTY GUN RANGE IN THE AMOUNT OF 3,517,003 OR $23. THIS INCLUDED THE BASE BID BID ALTERNATES ONE, 2, AND 3 FOR A COMPLETE PACKAGE. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS

THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. >> QUESTIONS? YOUR MIKE IS OFF.

>> TO HAVE AN BSERVATION AND I THINK MY OBSERVATION IS CORRECT.

3 OF THE 5 BIDS ARE MISCALCULATED? THERE WAS A CORRECTED NUMBER IN RED K. I CAN HEAR. THERE WERE 2 GREAT.

>> THERE WERE 2. YES COMMISSIONER. WANT TO NOT PROVIDE A BID BOND.

OKAY. I JUST FOUND IT AMAZING THAT THEY COULDN'T EVEN ADD UP THE NUMBERS. ONE WAS OFF AT OTHER AND THE OTHER ER ONE WAS OFF SIGNIFICANTLY SO ANYWAY. EAH. I WOULD, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S BEEN IN THE INBOX FOR MANY YEARS WITH MANY DIFFERENT COMMISSIONERS. I THINK WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

I RECOMMEND WE SEND IT TO FULL COMMISSION. >> I AGREE.> HAVE ALTERNATE ONE, 2 AND 3 OTHER FAIRLY EXPENSIVE. THERE'S A REASON WHY WE MADE THEM ALTERNATES. SO AS A BODY MAKE THAT DECISION.

>> I GREE. IF YOU PUT IT ON NSENT ANYWAY WILL PUT IT ON DISCUSSION.

>> THE OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS I THINK THIS IS ONE. WE HAD 57 PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE PRE-BID CONFERENCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO THAT'S ANOTHER POINT OF INTEREST.

THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS. WE HAD 6 BINS, IS THAT WHEN ONCE? 5 AND ONE OF LOW BID. THIS PROJECT WAS ADVERTISED CORRECTLY. IT WAS OF INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY.

THERE WERE BIDDERS AND QUITE HONESTLY THE BIDS WERE FAIRLY CLOSE.

AND THAT ALWAYS MEANS TO ME THE SPECS WERE FAIRLY DIRECT AND DISCRETE.

SO EACH OF THE CONTRACTORS HAD A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THEY WERE BIDDING ON.

YOU KNOW, DIRT AND 2 BY FOURS AND METAL BUILDINGS ARE COSTING THE SAME TO BASICALLY ALL THE BIDDERS. THAT LED ME TO BELIEVE THE SPECS WERE GOOD.

THE BIDDERS WERE BREEDING THE SPECS AND THEY GAVE US GOOD BIDS.

>> I DISAGREE, COMPLETELY. I THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE DO BIDS EVERY DAY.

IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC, IF YOU PUT AN RFP FOR PUBLIC PROJECT THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET. AND WHAT WAS BUDGETED. THERE, COME IN.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. BACK IN A LONG TIME AGO IN THE 90S WHEN MY FIRST JOB OUT OF COLLEGE WAS WITH MARTA. THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY IN ATLANTA.

WE WERE QUASIGOVERNMENTAL. THE BIDS THERE WERE SEALED BIDS AND THEY WERE OPEN AT THE DAY THEY WERE AWARDED. WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY WENT TO THE BUDGET AND THEY BACKED THEIR BID OF THAT. AND SO, AT ANY RATE. WE WILL DISCUSS IT MORE IN DETAIL IN A WEEK COMPARED TO WHERE WE END UP. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SEE THAT WASN'T TO PAINFUL TODAY.

[3.  State Financial Assistance Recipient Agreement #27937 with the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (K. Smith)]

DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

HAPPY TO PRESENT THIS AGREEMENT. HELLO.

GOOD NEWS, GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE STATE HUNDRED 10,000 FOR THE PAUL RYAN HOLD LIVESTOCK PAVILION IMPROVEMENTS IS TO IMPROVE THE ARENA, THE GESTALT AREA, THE BARN AREA.

ALL THESE PERMITS ARE IN LINE WITH THE FAIRGROUNDS MASTER PLAN.

AND THIS WILL BENEFIT OUR USER GROUPS. KIMBERLY MORGAN HAS BEEN INVOLVED AND WERE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD.HIS WAS A GRANT APPLICATION WE SUBMITTED AND WE

PROCEED LINE EYEING FUNDING FROM THE STATE. >> AS PART OF THE 2021 SESSION

CORRECT? >> CORRECT. >> QUESTIONS?

S? >> WE WERE AWARDED 910,000? >> YES.

>> MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING. THE BUDGET SHOWS 256,000 THAT WERE GOING TO SPEND.

DID I MISS SOMETHING? >> WHERE DID YOU SEE THAT? >> THE LAST COUPLE OF PAGES OF

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THE AGREEMENT. >> THE APPLICATION WE SUBMITTED WAS FOR 910 AND THAT'S WHAT WE RECEIVE THE FUNDING FOR. IT'S POSSIBLE THE COUNTY MAY NEED TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING WHICH WE HAVE BEEN IN OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW FOR NEXT YEAR TO COMPLETE THOSE PROJECTS. IT'S NOT A MATCH REQUIREMENT. BUT THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL

IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO. >> LET ME GET TO THE LAST

COUPLE OF PAGES. >> THAT WAS WHERE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHEN

MS. MORGAN WAS TALKING ABOUT THE BARN? >> THAT'S A SIMPLE FORMAT TO SUBMIT BACK TO THE STATE. THOSE ARE ATTACHMENT, ATTACHMENT D IS A SAMPLE FINANCIAL STATEMENT WE HAVE TO SUBMIT BACK WILL BE SEEK REIMBURSEMENT.

EXPO APPEARED THAT'S A SAMPLE. OKAY. >> SO THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE CHANGING THE BARN ITSELF? OR THIS IS THE BARN

IMPROVEMENTS. >> THIS IS THE BARN IMPROVEMENTS.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE PAVILION. OKAY.

>> AT THE STALLS, THE ARENA. THAT WHOLE AREA. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE ARENA. OKAY. WHICH DO YOU PREFER?

>> I FORGOT WHAT I SAID. I RECOMMEND WE GO TO COMMISSION.

JUST ONCE AGAIN WERE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY. MAKE SURE COMMISSION IS READY

FOR IT. >> STATE MONEY. IT WAS AWARDED TO US IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. THROUGH OUR LOBBYISTS. OKAY.

I'M FINE WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT ITEM NUMBER 4 EXTENSION TO SECOND RENEWAL OF

[4.  Extension to the Second Renewal of Agreement #2016/2017-138 with Eternity Funeral Home and Crematory of Jacksonville, LLC (K. Smith)]

>> YES THIS IS A RENEWAL OF THE RECRUITMENT WE HAVE WITH THE ETERNITY THIS IS FOR UNCLAIMED DESCENDENT DISPOSITION SERVICES. ANOTHER WORD ANTIGEN PROGRAM WE HAVE. THIS IS MANDATED BY FLORIDA STATUTE.

WE'VE BEEN THIS 1617 RECEIVED ONE BID THE FUNERAL HOME HAS KEPT THEIR FEET THE SAME.

WE HAVE TYPICALLY ON AVERAGE ABOUT 60 CASES A YEAR. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WILL BE GOING OVER TO OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES SECTION. WITH THE NEW TRANSITION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS? >> NO JUST A COMMENT.

I THINK I LEARNED TODAY THAT IF ANTIGEN DUVALL COUNTY RESIDENT EXPIRES MCCLAIN COUNTY IT'S

CLAY COUNTY'S EXPENSE. >> CORRECT, YES SIR. IT'S A PLACE OF DEATH.

IF THEY PASS IN CLAY COUNTY THEN THAT'S THE PLACE OF DEATH THAT'S ON THE DEATH CERTIFICATE AND THEN WE ARE RESPONSIBLE. > IF THERE TRANSPORTED TO ORANGE PARK MEDICAL?

>> EXACTLY. THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO LOBBY AND WORK ON.

BY EVERY COUNTY IS FACE WITH IT. WE WILL CONTINUE THOSE

DISCUSSIONS. >> IT'S A QUITE UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE.

HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? >> $1025 PER CASE. FOR THE FUNERAL HOME TO HELP MANAGE THE PROGRAM, DO THE PAPERWORK. THE CREMATION.

FILE FOR DEATH CERTIFICATE. >> I MEAN SO WITH 60,000 A YEAR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT STILL 60,000 BUT, SOMEBODY, THERE'S SOMEBODY'S LOVED ONE.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER FAMILY IS. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD IS

IS THIS THE SAME COST WAS PREVIOUS CONTRACT? >> CORRECT SINCE 16 Ã17.

PRICES REMAIN THE SAME. >> I RECOMMEND CONTAIN. >> WOW.

I AGREE CONSENT. >> MADAM CHAIR COMMISSIONER RENNINGER.

THERE IS QUITE AN EXTENSIVE RESEARCH WITH REGARDS TO THE INDIVIDUAL AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S JUST NOT JUST ANYTHING. WE ARE LOOKING INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO. AS A GROUP. THE STAFF IS.

>> THOSE SERVICES ARE FREE. FORTUNATELY WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.

[5.  AT&T Network Services Agreement (T. Nagle)]

MR. NAGLE. >> YES MA'AM THIS IS AT&T NETWORK SERVICES AGREEMENT.

SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE BROUGHT THE AWARD TO THE BOARD. AND OUR LEGAL TEAM HAS BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING WITH AT&T TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT. SO THIS IS THE AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER AGREEMENT WHICH INCORPORATES THOSE 2 SERVICES. FOR THESE CHANGING SERVICES.

>> SO YOU HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH AT&T. YOU NEED TO TELL THEM TO QUIT

KNOCKING KEYSTONE PEOPLE OF THEIR SERVICES. >> YES MA'AM.

>> PLEASE. YES SIR, THE QUESTIONS? >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

>> YES, SIR THIS IS HER NETWORK SERVICES. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST

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COMPLEX CONTRACTS OF MCM ALIVE. >> THIS IS A NETWORK SERVICES WE PROVIDE ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS. FORTYSOMETHING FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

WE ARE MOVING FROM A TRADITIONAL WHERE WE CONTROL MOST OF THE NETWORK.

TUBING SOFTWARE DEFINED. IT'LL BE A JOINT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN US AND AT&T.

SO AS PART OF THE SERVICE IF WE START HAVING OUTAGES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE THEN THEIR STAFF AND THEIR OPERATIONS CENTER WILL LOOK AT IT BEFORE IT EVER GETS TO OPERATIONS.EFORE AGAINST US. AS A STAFF MULTIPLIER AS PART REDUCES OUR COST BY GOING TO

THIS METHOD. >> A REDUCES OUR CAUSE? >> YES SIR.

NOW INSTEAD OF IT BEING DEDICATED FIBER TO US IT'S BASICALLY MORE SHARED FIBER.

IT'S STILL SECURE AND STILL GOING THROUGH OUR SWITCHES AND EVERYTHING.

BUT YES. >> DON'T CHANGE FOR BETTER PRICE.

AT MCRAE PARK STATION THAT'S ALL GONNA SAY. THEY WON'T HOOK YOU BACK UP

AGAIN. I'M GOOD WITH CONTENT. >> YEAH.

RECOMMEND THE SAME. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT. MY HUSBAND HATES IT WHEN I START WITH YOU NEED TO.

[6.  First Extension and Amendment to Broker Services Agreement with Risk Management Associates, Inc. d/b/a Public Risk Insurance Advisors (J. Bethelmy)]

>> DBA PUBLIC RISK INSURANCE ADVISORS. >> JENNIFER BETHELMY, HUMAN RESOURCES. THIS IS FOR THE BROKER SERVICES UPPER PERCENT OUR PROPERTY AND LIABILITY INSURANCES. THE WIDE RANGE OF LIABILITY INSURANCES FOR US.

THIS WAS THIS WAS COMPETITIVELY PROCURED IN 2017/18.

WE HAD A 3 YEAR AGREEMENT WITH 2 ONE-YEAR RENEWALS. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE-YEAR THE FIRST ONE-YEAR RENEWAL. TYPICALLY EACH YEAR OUR BROKER WILL DO A LOT OF BENCHMARKING THROUGHOUT THE MARKET AND THEN PRESENT THE COUNTY WITH THE BEST OPTIONS FOR THE DIFFERENT LINES OF INSURANCE THAT WE NEED. AND WE ARE RE SEEKING THAT FIRST 20 YEAR RENEWAL TO BE BE RENEWAL TO BE APPROVED. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I S THAT I RECEIVED I WILL WANT TO ADDRESS ILL WANT TO ADDRESS IS WHETHER OR NOT WE PARTICIPATE IN THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND IF MIT WHICH IS THE FLORIDA MENISCAL INSURANCE TRUST. THEY ACTUALLY ARE A A COMPETITOR IN THAT ARENA AS AS WELL. THEY WERE WERE NOT PART OF OUR PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY EITHER DID NOT WIN THE THE BID OR MIGHT NOT HAVE PROVIDED A BID TO O THAT.

ALSO FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES THEY DO HAVE SOME INSURANCE PROGRAMS. THEY JUST DON'T HAVE COMPREHENSIVE INSURANCE PROGRAMS LIKE OUR BROKER WOULD GO OUT AND PROCURE FOR US. THEY HAVE LIMITED LIENS. LIMITED TO GENERAL LIABILITY, PUBLIC OFFICIAL LIABILITY AND CYBERSECURITY LIABILITY. HAT'S ALL THAT THEY PROVIDE.

THE OTHER QUESTION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANY REBATE PROGRAMS THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR THE PROPERTY INSURANCES. AND TYPICALLY THOSE, THEY DON'T REALLY EXIST ANYMORE.

THEY WERE SOMETHING THAT OCCURRED MANY YEARS AGO. IN SPEAKING WITH OUR BROKER THAT IS NOT A PRACTICE CURRENTLY. BASED ON HIS EXPERIENCE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES TEND TO FRONT LOAD THE PREMIUMS. SO THEY CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH A REBATE. IT IS BIT OF A SCHEME I GUESS. SO THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE

QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> YEAH.

THE FM IT CERTAINLY CAME FROM BEING. IF MIT IS AN INSURED FOR 400 TOWNS AND CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY ARE NOT A BROKER.

THEY ARE A INSURANCE PROVIDER. I'M NOT SURE WE HAVE THE EXACT UNDERSTANDING.

I UNDERSTAND THIS TO BE THE BROKER. THIS IS THE GUY THAT GOES OUT OR GATHER GOES OUT AND LOOKS FOR INSURANCE COVERAGE FROM DIFFERENT OMPANIES.

ND THE FLORIDA MUTUAL INSURANCE RUST. ENTITIES TO SELL LIFE INSURANCE. I UNDERSTAND ALL THE FRONT LOAD AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THAT'S BASED, THE REBATES ARE BASED ON EXPERIENCE DURING THAT YEAR.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY IN CURRENT CANE, THE TREE FOR HER CANE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE IS NOT A FOR-PROFIT COMPANY. AS A NONPROFIT COMPANY.

THE MEMBERS GET A REBATE. THIS MORNING AWAY. I STILL.

>> SO THEY ARE A COMPETITOR TO PRIYA WHICH IS WHO WE HAVE OUR BROKER SERVICES WITH.

THEY WOULD PROVIDE A BID TO ANYBODY WHO WAS ASKING FOR A PROPOSAL.

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>> FOR INSURANCE? NOT FOR BROKER RIGHT? I DON'T THINK THERE BROKER.

>> THERE NOT A BROKER. YOU KINDA GET WHAT YOU GET WITH THEM.

THEY WILL OFFER YOU INSURANCE WHICH IS WHAT THE BROKER WOULD GO OUT AND TO THE BENCHMARKING.

ET ALL THE DIFFERENT QUOTES AND PRESENT US WITH THE SELECTION.

>> I GUESS MY QUESTION, DOES THIS BROKER LOOK AT THE MUTUAL INSURANCE TRUST THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT SERVE CITIES AND COUNTIES OR DO THEY GO TO STATE FARM OR PROGRESSIVE?

LIKE THE COMMERCIAL, FOR PROFIT COMPANIES? >> I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK IF THEY GO DIRECTLY TO THEM. AND IN SPEAKING WITH HIM I DON'T GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY GO TO THEM BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THEIR COMPETITORS. THEY ARE PROVIDING LINES OF INSURANCE COVERAGE TO TOWNS AND CITIES AND DIFFERENT ENTITIES. YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR CURRENT BROKER DOES IS GO OUT TO THE VARIOUS COUNTY. THEY REPRESENT A LOT OF COUNTIES AND CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO AS A RESULT OF THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO LOTS OF THE BENCHMARKING DATA. IF THEY'VE DONE A BID FOR ANOTHER COUNTY THEY WILL LOOK TO SEE WHAT IS THE BEST RACING THAT THEY'VE DONE AND THEN TRYING TO AGGRESSIVELY PURSUE BETTER PRICING FOR THE BEST PRICE FOR THEIR CLIENTS.

>> THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I HAVE IS ON A CONDO BOARD AND RELATED TO INSURANCE AND BROKERAGE THAT KIND OF STUFF. WE HAD A BROKER THAT PURCHASED WINDOW INSURANCE FOR 22 STORY CONDO. AND FOR 10 YEARS WE NEVER HAD A CLAIM AGAINST INSURANCE.

SO, WE LOOKED AT OUR HIGH INCREASE THIS YEAR THE BROKER SAID, GOTTA THINK ABOUT GETTING RID OF WINDOW INSURANCE. AND AFTER 10 YEARS OF NO CLAIMS, WHY DID SHE RECOMMEND THE 6 YEARS AGO OR 8 YEARS AGO? MY POINT IS BROKER, I'M NOT SURE THEY ALWAYS AROUND THE A GAME. BECAUSE DON'T FORGET THEY GET A COMMISSION FOR EVERY DOLLAR OF

INSURANCE THEY SELL. >> SURE. >> AFTER KIND OF OVERSEE THE BROKER AS WELL AS THE INSURER. ANYWAY. ENOUGH OF THAT OF THE POLITICAL

COMMENTS. >> IS THE RESERVE WE USE A BROKERAGE SERVICE IS TO KIND OF BUNDLE ALL THE DIFFERENT INSURANCES INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL AND GOING OUT FOR EACH ONE?

>> THAT'S THEIR JOB. THEY GO UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THEY SECURE THE PRICES. WERE NOT DOING, STAFF IS NOT DOING THAT HERE.

THEY ARE THE ONES GOING OUT TO DO THE SHOPPING AROUND AND COME BACK WITH THE OPTIONS.

WE DO PERIODIC CLAIMS REVIEWS EACH YEAR. LEGAL HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE CLAIMS REVIEWS. WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT PROGRAMS OR OTHER THINGS THAT WE MAY HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE AS A RESULT OF THOSE CLAIMS REVIEWS. THEY DO SERVE AS A GOOD RESOURCE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT EASILY COMES TO MIND WAS WHEN WE WERE DOING THE CARES ACT PROGRAMS AND ALSO WHEN WE WERE PROCURING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDINGS. WE USE THEM A LOT FOR TO BOUNCE BACK CERTAIN QUESTIONS SO I APPROACH THEM TO FIND OUT HOW WOULD YOU DO THIS, SO THEY ARE GOOD RESOURCE BASED ON VARIOUS

EXPERIENCE AS WELL. >> OF THE OTHER BENEFIT TO A BROKER IS SOME OF THESE LARGE PARCELS OF AN SURE ABILITY WON'T BE TAKEN BY A SINGLE INSURER.

THEY DON'T WANT THE EXPOSURE FOR THE WHOLE ENCHILADA. SO THIS BROKER HAS TO LAYER THE COVERAGE WITH MAYBE 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT CARRIERS TO GET THE PROPER COVERAGE THAT WE MAY NEED. THAT'S ANOTHER BENEFIT OF USING A BROKER.

OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO DO THAT AND IT'S A TOUGH JOB. >> HOW MUCH DOES THIS COST

ANNUALLY FOR THE PUBLIC? >> IN TERMS OF COMMISSIONS THAT THEY WOULD GET.

IN 2021 FISCAL YEAR 2021. THEY WOULD RECEIVE $96,000 IN COMMISSIONS.

THE PREVIOUS YEAR 19AND 20 THEY RECEIVED $89,000 IN COMMISSIONS.

AND THAT WAS BASED ON AN INCREASED VOLUME OF INSURANCE AT THE LAST TIME FOR THE 20 12 FOR THE 19/20 WE ADDED FIRE STATION IN E. SO THAT REFLECTED IN THE 2021

THAT WAS SOME OF THE INCREASED VALUES. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. >> IS AN EXTENSION SO I RECOMMEND CONSENT.

[COUNTY MANAGER]

>> I WOULD AGREE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

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MR. COUNTY MANAGER.OUR OUT. >> MADAM CHAIR. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONER RENNINGER. JUSTIN SIDE NOTE ON WHAT THE SPIKE F COVID HERE AND HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THOSE TO GET THEIR VACCINATIONS OUT THERE. FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT I FEEL THAT HELPED ME OUT ON PHAVING A VACCINATION. MY MIDDLE DAUGHTER WHO WAS RESISTANT TO GET A VACCINATION RECEIVED ONE YESTERDAY FROM THEIR RIGHT.

IT WAS VERY PLEASANT EXPERIENCE. THE NURSES THERE WERE FANTASTIC. AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO SHE WAS.

SHE JUST WALKED IN AND WAS ABLE TO GET A VACCINATION. I KNOW WE TRIED TO PERSONALLY TO GET A VACCINATION AT CVS AND WALGREENS. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO TRY TO DO THAT. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT STANDING BY AND READY TO GO WITH HER NURSES THERE. SO, DOES THE MAIN THING. THINK WERE ALSO FORTUNATE.

ANOTHER COMMUNITY BEING PREPARED FOR FRED AND GRACE COMING THROUGH.

THERE ARE MORE STORMS TO FOLLOW. SO IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO BE READY FOR THE STORMS.ERE FORTUNATE THERE WAS A HIGH AUTHOR THAT ENDED UP PUSHING IT TOWARDS BOTH OF THEM TOWARDS THE WEST AND THAT. FINALLY JUST WITH THE KIDS THAT ARE OUT THERE THE BUS STOPS ON SCHOOL AND SAFETY. STUFF IMPORTANT HERE LOCALLY AND ALSO SENDING KIDS TO COLLEGE IS ALL WITHIN HER WHEELHOUSE AND ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ONGOING. PENDING ANY QUESTION THAT'S REALLY ALL HEALTH.

>> STUPID QUESTIONS? >> NO. >> THE ONLY OTHER THING I LIKE TO ADD IS THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES IN FIRE WATCH. NO POLITICAL STATEMENT HERE.

WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT FOUGHT OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS IN AFGHANISTAN.

IF YOU KNOW A VETERAN WHO WAS HAVING A DIFFICULT WEEK. PLEASE UTILIZE THOSE SERVICES.

FIRE WATCH IS A GREAT TOOL FOR THOSE THAT INTERVENTION FOR SOMEONE WHO REALLY NEEDS IT.

>> JUST TO FALL ON THAT COMMENT. FIRE WATCH IS GOING THROUGH TRANSITION AS WE SPEAK. IT STARTED OUT AS A LOCAL NORTHEAST FLORIDA ENTITY.

BUT, THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA I THINK IT'S ALREADY INKED THE CONTRACT TO BE A FLORIDA PROVIDER OF THE SAME SERVICES. AND TO BE QUITE HONESTLY WITH ROLE EVENTS WITH AFGHANISTAN AND YOU HAVE A FRIEND OR RELATIVE THAT WAS LOST OVER THERE OR MULTI-HANDICAPPED, THEY COULD BE GOING THROUGH SOME.

I KNOW IT WOULD AFFECT ME TREMENDOUSLY. AFTER 20 YEAR FIGHT FOR AFGHANISTAN'S FREEDOM. AND THEN WITHIN DAYS IT REVERTED RIGHT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS 27 YEARS AGO. MAYBE EVEN WORSE. I'M A LITTLE DISTANT HEARTED WITHOUT ISSUE. I DON'T PLAY IN THAT ARENA ANYMORE.

IT DOESN'T SPEAK HIGHLY OF OUR US SUPPORT OF OUR ALLIES IN THE REGION AND SPREAD DEMOCRACY TO

THE WORLD. THAT'S ONLY COMMENT I HAVE. >> WELL, COMMISSIONER BURKE AND I ATTENDED A DEPLOYMENT SATURDAY FOR ONE OF HER VERY OWN UNITS AND ACCOUNT BLENDING.

THAT WAS ON THEIR WAY THERE. SO, OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS OF RELATIVES ARE THERE.

SO PLEASE KEEP THEM IN YOUR PRAYERS. BARRING EVERYTHING ELSE WE WILL

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