[Pledge of Allegiance]
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ARE THERE ANY OFFICIALS HERE BESIDES THE COMMISSIONERS THAT I NEED TO RECOGNIZE?
>> I WANT TO THINK BELIEVE ON OF THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR PROVIDING SECURITY FOR THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM TO MY RIGHT, PETER DAVIS, BO HOWARD, RALPH OKAY FOR.
TO MY LEFT MICHAEL BARRE, JOE M STALLONE, PHIL GARRISON, JIM FOSSETT WHO IS OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE SCHOOL OOL BOARD. I MESS UP SOMEONE'S LAST NAME.
BOTH I'M SORRY I BEG YOUR PARDON. >>> THE CLAY COUNTY COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
MOST OF THE DECISIONS MADE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OR BCC. THE BCC WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY AT THEIR MEETINGS ON MAY 11 OR MAY 25. THE WAY THAT WORKS OUT ON THE AGENDA IS THE FIRST TWO ITEMS WILL BE HEARD IN THREE WEEKS. THE LAST ITEM WILL BE HEARD BOTH TIMES AT THE 11TH AND 25TH. THE ZONING PORTION OF THE BCC MEETING IS HELD AT 5:00 ON THOSE DATES. IF THERE IS AN ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA THAT YOU WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THE COMMENT CARDS WHICH CAN BE FOUND IN THE ENTRY FESTIVAL AND CAN BE FOUND IN THE ENTRYWAY. AT THIS TIME WE REQUEST THAT YOU PUT YOUR CELL PHONES ON SILENT OR VIBRATE. IF YOU NEEDED A CALL DURING THE MEETING PLEASE STEP OUTSIDE. IF YOU NEED TO LEAVE THE MEETING PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY.
[1. Approval of Minutes]
AT THIS POINT WE NEED TO PROCEED TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 6 MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. MOTION? MOTION.>> SECOND. >> EMOTION AND A SECOND. THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.
>> THE MOTION IS CARRIED. >> THE NEXT MOTION IS THE PUBLIC COMMENT ERIOD AT THIS TIME IS THERE ANY MOMENT OF THE PUBLIC THAT CAN COMMENT ON ANY ITEMS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA BUT PERTINENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS BEFORE ME FOR THIS. RIGHT NOW BUT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
IS ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA?
>> SEE NONE WE WILL CLOSE THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT. >> WILL MOVE INTO OUR
[1. Public Hearing to Consider CPA 2021-04 to Amend the Future Land Use Map for 5 acres from AR (Agriculture/Residential) to COM (Commercial)]
SUBSTANTIVE AGENDA. THE FIRST ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CPA 2021 Ã FOUR TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR 5 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURE /RIGHT RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. SENIOR PLANNER N WILL PRESENT THIS ITEM.>> IS FIRST ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER CPA 2020 Ã 04.
IT'S A SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT. I'M NOT SURE WHY WE DON'T HAVE
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THIS. WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT HERE. >> THERE WE GO.
A SMALL-SCALE LAND-USE AMENDMENT FROM AGRICULTURAL DENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
THE PROPERTIES LOCATED IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS PLANNING DISTRICT WHICH IS THE COMMISSION DISTRICT FOR. THE APPLICANT IS NORTHEAST FLORIDA OUTDOOR STORAGE.
THIS WILL BE HEARD AT THE BCC HEARING ON MAY 25. THIS IS A PARCEL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AT THE 5 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED BASICALLY IN THE CORNER OF STATE ROAD 21 AND COUNTY ROAD 315 C. ON THE LEFT AND IS AN EXISTING LAND USE MAP. RED IS COMMERCIAL. THIS SURROUNDS THE COMMERCIAL AND CURRENTLY IS AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL ACROSS LANDING AS THE CAMP LANDING BASE.
ON THE RIGHT IS A ZONING MAP. THE FIRST ONE IS CURRENTLY AT RESIDENTIAL WORDS ADJACENT TO THE BBQ AND BE. WHICH ARE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS. SOUNDING DISTRICTS DEVELOPMENTS ARE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THERE IS A CELL TOWER IN CAMP LANDING IS ACROSS SR 21.
>>> THE EFFECT ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE SHOWS THIS PARCEL LOCATED OUTSIDE OF THE SEWER SERVICE AREA. THERE IS SOLID WASTE CAPACITY. THERE IS NO IT GUIDELINE FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE SO USE THE NEXT COURSE CLOSEST THING. THAT PREDICTS A PEAK OF 30.4.84 PEAK HOUR TRIPS WHICH YOU COULD BASE AT ABOUT 17. STORM WATER MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS. IF THIS WERE DEVELOPED AS AGRICULTURE AND RESIDENTIAL IT WOULD PREVENT DWELLING UNITS PER 10 GROSS ACRES.
A COULD HAVE UP TO ONE DWELLING ACRE SUBJECT TO TRACK SIZE. THAT'S THE MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY. AS COMMERCIAL IT COULD HAVE EVERY SHARE OF.4.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD INCREASE THE DEPTH OF THIS COMMERCIAL PARCEL AT THIS INTERSECTION WHICH IS THE DESIRABLE THING RATHER THAN HAVING STRIP TIE DEVELOPMENT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS COMMERCIAL LAND-USE. LIEUTENANT COLONEL COULD NOT ATTEND TONIGHT'S MEETING. HE SENT AN EMAIL. GOOD AFTERNOON, I HAVE A SCHEDULE CONFLICT AND CANNOT MAKE IT TONIGHT. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE AGENDA ITEMS RELATED TO THE BOAT STORAGE ACROSS THE STREET FROM CBG TC HAVE NO IMPACTS ON OUR OPERATIONS. IN THE EVENT THE BOARD ASKS FOR THE FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD STANDS WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT. WE CAN ENTER THAT INTO THE RECORD.
WE ALSO AS PART OF YOUR MEETING ITEMS WE'VE INCLUDED AS MANY SUPPORT AS WELL AS ONE, THAT WAS KIND OF CONCERNING. THE INTERSECTION AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME SENSE I WILL READ THOSE VERY QUICKLY INTO THE AGENDA FOR THE RECORD.
WE RECEIVED FROM JUSTIN HALL. I'M WRITING TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING OF THE ATTACHED PROPERTY IS A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER WHO CURRENTLY UTILIZES AS WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR THE PROPERTY. I SEE THE BENEFIT AND IT. ALSO WITH THE PIPELINING CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPED LOCAL LIKES AND A BRAND-NEW PARK IN KEYSTONE THE NEED FOR BUSINESS SUCH AS THIS WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY INCREASES. DIANE STANLEY WROTE I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE POSSIBLE REZONING OF COUNTY ROAD 315 NSR 21 FOR THE BUILDING OF STORAGE UNITS.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS REZONING AS OUR COMMUNITY CAN USE ADDITIONAL STORAGE AND THERE AREN'T ANY IN THAT AREA. BARBARA FRANKLIN WROTE HELLO COMMISSIONERS.
I'M A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND CLAY COUNTY.
THEY SEE THE ATTACHED. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A HEARING COMING UP TO REZONE THE PROPERTY PURCHASED.HIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE CORNER OF SR 21 AND COUNTY ROAD 315 C. I AM IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY SO CAN BE UTILIZED AS AN OUTSIDE FACILITY STORAGE UNIT. I INSURE SEVERAL OF THE STORAGE UNITS IN THE KEYSTONE AREA AND THERE CERTAINLY A NEED FOR ANOTHER ONE DUE TO MOST BEING AT FULL CAPACITY.
THE PELLET RIDDLES ARE WELL RESPECTED BUSINESS OWNERS AND MOST CERTAINLY KEEP THE
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PROPERTY SAFE AND WELL-MAINTAINED. THE BACK OF THE PROPERTIES FOR THE STORAGE UNIT WOULD BE SO THERE'S NO VISIBILITY ISSUES COMING ON OR GOING ON 315 C OR 21. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS FEEL FREE TO EMAIL AND CONTACT US. WE WILL ENTER THESE INTO OUR SYSTEM'S RECORD.THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN IS HERE WITH THE BUSINESS. HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS
WELL AS CAM. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS FROM THE
COMMISSION? >> MAN: BETH IS THE OWNER OF THE CORNER PROPERTY.
THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUESTING THIS CHANGE. THIS WOULD MAKE THE ENTIRE
PARCEL PARTIAL. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> I HAVE A SIMILAR QUESTION. IS THAT TWO PARCELS OR ONE PARCEL THAT HAD TWO DIFFERENT
ZONING'S ON IT? >> IT'S ONE PARCEL THAT HAD THREE DIFFERENT ZONING'S IT'S
BB, BB TWO AND IN THIS PIECE. >> SO WE'RE MAKING AN EFFORT TO UNIFY THE PARCEL.
>> IT WILL STILL HAVE TO BUT IT WILL HAVE ONE LAND-USE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS. WE WILL START WITH THE APPLICANT, NORTHEAST FLORIDA OUTDOOR STORAGE. MISTER PERITO?
IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> MAN: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LISTENING. MY NAME IS JOHN PERITO. WE LIVE IN KEYSTONE HEIGHTS.
THE ADDRESS IS 6779 CRYSTAL LAKE ROAD. KEYSTONE HEIGHTS.
32656. AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I DON'T HAVE A STRONG UNDERSTANDING WHAT MY RESPONSIBILITY IS HERE THIS EVENING.
WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I THINK THAT ASKING FOR THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD ALLOW US A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING SPECIAL AND A POSITIVE AFFIRMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. THAT IS OUR GOAL.
>> CAN ASK ONE QUESTION? I'M NOT EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AS FAR AS THE DISTANCE. HOW FAR IS THAT FROM THE MAIN PART OF KEYSTONE?
>> DOES DISTANCE I BELIEVE WAS AROUND 10 MILES. IT'S A JAUNT FOR SURE.
>> AND JUST TRYING TO PLACE IT PHYSICALLY. >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, NOW WE WILL GO INTO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
. I AM NOT HOLDING ANY CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? SEEING THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? >> MAN: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
>> I WILL SECOND THAT. THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? ANY POST? THE MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
[2. Public Hearing to Consider Rezoning Application Z-21-01 AR to BB-2]
THE RELATED ZONING CHANGE. PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REZONING APPLICATIONS E- 21 Ã 01 AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL OR TO BB TWO. IS CARSON?>> THANK YOU MADAM. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER IS THE 2101 A COMPANION ZONING APPLICATION TO CPA 2021 Ã04 THAT YOU JUST HEARD.
THE APPLICANT IS NORTHEAST FLORIDA OUTDOOR STORAGE. THIS WILL BE HEARD AT THE LAST MEETING OF THE MONTH FOR THE BCC ON MAY 25. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL TO BB TO COMMUNITY BUSINESS DISTRICTS.THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 5 ACRES. APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A CHANGE IN ZONING TO DEVELOP THIS PORTION AS RV AND BOAT STORAGE. SURROUNDING ZONING'S AS NORTH AND EAST. THEY ARE SOUTH AND WEST AND A RBV AND BB TWO.
AND ACROSS THE LANDING IS. THREE. WE SENT AERIAL PHOTO OF THE SITE AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF LANDSCAPING OUT THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE CELL TOWER IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTHEAST OF IT.
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THE PHOTO ACROSS FROM THE CAMP LANDING SITE. STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND HAS DETERMINED THE REQUEST WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS AMENDED THROUGH CPA 2021 IF ADOPTED AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS.STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF 21 Ã01. >> ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS
FROM THE COMMISSION? >> DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO HIS PRIOR
COMMENTS? >> MISTER PERITO IS ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE ZONING COMMISSION? I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE DEAL.
>> THINK YOU. >> WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AGAIN I HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON THIS BEFORE WE GO TO THE COMMISSION DISCUSSION? SEEING THEN WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT TO THE APPLICANT. THIS IS RIGHT NEXT TO CAMP LANDING AND WE HAVE BEEN REALLY TRYING TO KEEP THE SKY OUT THERE AS DARK AS POSSIBLE.
KEEP THAT IN MIND AS HE PUT THE LIGHTING AND FOR THIS LOCATION. WITH THAT I WILL MOVE THE STAFF
REPORT. >> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A
SECOND THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE.
[3. Public Hearing to Consider a Land Development Code Change to the Conditional Use Requirements for RV and Boat Storage]
>> MOTION CARRIES THANK YOU. >> OUR FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENTS FOR RV AND BOAT
STORAGE. MISTER CARSON HAS THIS ONE. >> THIS IS THE AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE ADDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENTS FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE WHICH IS ARTICLE 3 SECTION 3 ÃFIVE BA. THE APPLICANT IS FRANK MILLER. THIS WILL BE HEARD AT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER MEETINGS ON THE 11TH AS WELL AS THE 25TH.
THERE ARE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUIRED. RV AND BOAT SURGE WAS APPROVED AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER WITHIN THE VILLAGE ZONE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AT THE BRANDON FIELD MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY AT THE BOARD'S APRIL 27 MEETING.
THIS WAS TO BE INCLUDED WITH THAT CHANGE. DETROIT ADVERTISING GLITCH WE ARE HAVING TEAR THEM SEPARATELY. THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE CONDITION THAT IS REQUIRED FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE. THE APPLICANT AS RECOMMENDING A CHANGE TO INCLUDE A MINIMUM SIZE OF 3 ACRES. THERE IS ALSO A REQUIREMENT FOR IT TO BE LOCATED ON A MAJOR COLLECTOR OR ABOVE. THE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN ADDED SO WITHIN THESE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ESSENTIALLY WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN THERE COULD BE AN EXCEPTION THAT IT'S IN A ROADWAY WITHIN THE ZONES. THE CURRENT CONNECTS DIRECTOR TO A MINOR DIRECT ACCESS. THEY'RE STILL ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT ALLOWED.
THERE WERE NO CHANGES TO ITEM 2. ITEM 3, AT LEAST 20% OF THE SITE SHALL BE AN OPEN SPACE AND THIS POLICIES TRYING TO CLARIFY WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT OPEN SPACE.
SETBACKS AND WHAT LINES WITH EXISTING VEGETATION AREAS. THEY WOULD ACHIEVE THAT 20%.
ITEM 4 IS BEING MODIFIED TO SPECIFY THE TYPE OF PAVEMENT THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED.
ADDED ENGINEERS. IS TO CLARIFY THE LOCATION OF THE OPAQUE WALL.
ALONG THE PUBLIC ROADWAY THE OPAQUE WILL BE REQUIRED AS WELL AS TO DECIDE WHERE THE VISIBLE'S FROM THE ROADWAY. IT WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY OR WHERE IT'S ADJACENT TO WETLANDS. OR PART OF AN CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
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THERE IS A PARCEL OF A LESSER ONLY PROTECTING THAT PARCEL. THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU WANT TO READ IT FURTHER. THE APPLICANT MISTER MILLER ISHERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
CLARIFICATION? >> I HAVE ONE. PLATTED OPEN SPACE? THAT WOULD BE SPACE PROVIDED FOR PUBLIC USE LIKE A PARK OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE IS
THAT WHAT THAT MEANS IT WOULD. >> MY QUESTION IS DO ANY OF THESE PARCELS THAT ARE BEING
DESIGNATED TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS? >> THAT COULD POTENTIALLY.
ABOUT THE FOURTH LINE OF UNDERLINES TOOK ABOUT A SITE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY HAVING A LESS INTENSE USE. THAT'S WHEN THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD COME INTO PLAY AND THAT'S
WHEN THE OPAQUE WOULD BE REQUIRED. >> OTHER QUESTIONS FOR
CLARIFICATION? >> SEEING NONE WE WILL PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
APPLICANT TO SPEAK. FRANK MILLER? >> MAN: GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU. MY NAME IS FRANK MILLER MY ADDRESS IS ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE SUITE 2300 IN JACKSONVILLE. THE ZIP CODE IS 33202.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS BUT THE GOAL HERE IS TO ACTUALLY REFINE SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ALREADY EXISTED AND TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE OTHERS.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> RALPH?
>> MISTER MILLER, THE ONLY THING I'M LOOKING AT THIS WORDING IS THE ONE THING THAT CAUGHT MY EYES TO PLANT AN OPEN SPACE. WE DON'T REQUIRE A WALL OR ANY BUFFERING IF IT'S PLANTED OPEN SPACE. I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF PLACES THAT THE PUBLIC USES. THERE'S NO BUFFER. THAT'S WHAT I WAS QUESTIONING.
I WOULD RESPOND THIS WAY. FIRST, THE SITE HAS TO HAVE OFFENSE.
THAT'S BASIC. THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT NEEDS A WALL OR FENCE.
THE QUESTION NEEDS TO BE OPAQUE OR NOT. IT'S BASED ON OUR ADDITIONS THAT PROVIDES THE OBESITY OR OPACITY HOWEVER YOU PRONOUNCE IT SO THAT IT ISN'T REQUIRED ALONG THE BOUNDARY ADJACENT TO THE PLATTED OPEN CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
THAT PRESERVE VEGETATION IS SUFFICIENT TO SCREEN THE SITE AND VIEW ACROSS SUCH AREAS.
>> YOU THINK THERE WOULD BE VEGETATION FAIR? >> IF YOU ARE ADJACENT TO A PARK AND THERE WAS EITHER A WETLANDS BETWEEN THE PARK AND THIS SITE OR IF THERE WAS TREES IN THE OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE PARK AND THE SITE THAN THE DEVELOPER WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT
THE OBESITY REQUIREMENTS. >> THERE WAS STILL THE OFFENSE THERE AND THERE WOULD BE SOME
KIND OF VEGETATION TO HELP BLOCK THE VIEW. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> HAVE ONE QUESTION MISTER MILLER. IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU WANT
TO LEASE 3 ACRES? IS IT SOMETHING GOING ON HERE? >> THE THOUGHT WAS AND BLOCKERS I GUESS IS THE UGLY. HATE TO KEEP BEATING ON THEM. THE THOUGHT WAS SOMEONE WHO HAD A PARCEL THAT HAD A COUPLE OF ACRES OR EVEN AN ACRE THAT THEY MIGHT TRY TO PUT AN RV AND BOAT FACILITY STORAGE ON IT. DOING IT KIND OF HALFWAY BECAUSE THE COST, YOU CAN SPEND $250,000 PER ACRE TO DEVELOP THESE THINGS WHEN HE PUT THE PAVING AND LANDSCAPING.
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IT WAS BASICALLY TO NOT JUST HAVE MOM-AND-POP THE SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY FOR RV AND BOATSTORAGE FACILITIES. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO THAT. THIS DEVELOPMENT BEING A CONDITIONAL USE WOULD HAVE TO BUY PROVIDE DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO THE COUNTY'S OFFICE.
WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT THEIR SITES, THEIR FENCING LANDSCAPING AND LIGHTING.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE THROWN. IT DOES REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT
PLANS TO BE SUBMITTED. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION?
>> LAST MONTH I WAS PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE WHO OPPOSED THIS. FOR THE REASON I STATED.
I'M NOT OPPOSED TO IT BUT I WANTED TO SEE A MAP OF AREAS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING THIS IN.
THAT WAS PART OF MY DISCUSSION. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE IS SEEN ANY HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHERE THESE PROPOSED SITES ARE?
>> I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A COPY FOR INSTANCE. IN THE LAKE ASBURY PLAN I THINK THERE IS SIX, 78 VILLAGE CENTERS LOCATED ON THE MAP.T WOULD BE WITHIN THOSE AREAS ON THE MAP. YOU SEE THE PINKISH AROUND CIRCLES.
THOSE OF THE VILLAGE CENTERS. >> COULD THAT BE MADE ANY BIGGER A CHANCE? AND SO BEFORE OUR PROPOSED CHANGE THE RV AND BOAT STORAGE WAS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE ACTIVITY CENTER. WHICH IS A AND NOT MISTAKEN THE DARK PURPLE ARE PURPLEISH.
WHAT THIS ACCOMPLISHES IS THAT ALLOWS FOR RV AND BOAT STORAGE THAT IS NOW REFINED IN ITS REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE PROVISIONS TO BE LOCATED CLOSER TO NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THOSE PINK COLOR ZONES AND THE GAS MONEY. THE BRANDON FIELD AREAS MORE DIFFICULT TO SHOW BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE COUNTY ADAPTED THE PLAN.
THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS LOCATED AND THERE IS A VERY SLIGHT DIFFERENCE IN THE COLORING.
THERE ARE COMMUNITY CENTERS THAT I BELIEVE ARE IN THE RIGHT TOP WITHIN THAT WHOLE MASTER PLAN AREA. AND THEN THE OTHER COLOR THAT'S RUNNING ALONG THE FIRST CLOSE EXPRESSWAYS ACTIVITY. BEFORE PROPOSED CHANGE WITHIN THE ACTIVITY CENTER COULD YOU PLACE AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE FACILITY. WITH THIS CHANGE YOU CAN PUT IT ALONG TO 20 IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS. WITHIN THE BROWN AREA WHICH ARE MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY UNDER THE BRANDON FIELD PLAN WITHIN THOSE AREAS THESE THREE VILLAGES ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THOSE OF THE MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT AREAS WITHIN MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITY BUT THEY ARE NOT SPECIFIED ON THE MAP. WHOEVER COMES AND DEVELOPS IT WILL HAVE TO DEVELOP AND LOCATE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS AND VILLAGE STONES. I HOPE THAT HELPS TO EXPLAIN
IT. >> AND JASON SESSIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS.
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I OWN THREE RV AND BOAT STORAGE YARDS IN THE METROPOLITAN AREA. TWO IN ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND ONE ANNUALLY. IT'S A POPULARITY OF 800% IN LAST 10 YEARS.YOUR GOAL OVER THE KEEPING NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT HAVING THEM IN THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE PEOPLES ACTUALLY PARKED THEIR CARS IN THE GARAGE. WHEN YOU LOCATE THESE FAR FROM PEOPLE'S HOMES THEY BRING THEM UP AND BRING THEM HOME AND THEY SENT HOME FOR A WEEK.
IF YOU PUT THEM ADJACENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO AND DO THE THINGS THEY NEED TO ON THE VEHICLE AND COME HOME. ONE THING THAT FRANK MENTIONED THAT MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITIES AS THEY ONLY ALLOW THE MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITIES AND IT'S ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY. I'M ALSO REALISTIC FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL VIABILITY WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL
COMMUNITY. >> MY QUESTION AND CONCERN WAS THE AESTHETICS OF IT.
PUTTING IT INTO THESE AREAS WHERE HOMES ARE NOT BECOMING DEVELOPED.
WILL IT IMPACT THE VALUE OF THOSE PROPERTIES? THAT WAS REALLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN AND NOT KNOWING WHERE SPECIFICALLY THESE THINGS ARE GOING WITH ROADWAYS.
IT JUST MADE IT A LITTLE CONFUSING FOR ME. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM POP UP AND NOT LOOK AESTHETICALLY CORRECT FOR THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
>> YOU LOOK THROUGH THE VILLAGE CENTER THEY ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED PURPOSELY FOR COMMERCIAL USE TO SUPPORT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY ARE IN THE PROPER LOCATIONS GOING THROUGH THEY ARE HAVING THE WALLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I CAN SHOW YOU EXAMPLES OF PLACES THAT WE OWN THAT KEEP THE BUFFERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. DO THEY WORK FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND TO PEOPLE RESPONDING SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES YOU SENT QUESTION I GUESS.
WITH THE GROWTH IN POPULARITY IT'S ALMOST A NECESSITY. >> THANK YOU ASK MISTER MILLER MIGHT ANSWER THIS YOU MIGHT MISS FROM SESSION 1. YOU JUST SAID THAT THESE PEOPLE THAT
LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THAT RELATES TO THE ALLOWABLE USE TODAY WITHIN THE MULTI-MASTER-PLANNED DESIGNATION. THE CHALLENGE WITH THE LETTER YOU BUILD A 200 UNIT PARCEL WITH 300 HOMES IN IT. YOU WANT TO BUILD A FACILITY THERE FOR THOSE RESIDENTS. NUMBER ONE IT'S REALLY INSIDE THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
NUMBER TWO, YOU ARE THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY. YOU CAN USE THAT STORAGE.
FOR THAT REASON NOT KNOWING THE USERS WITHIN THE CITY AND THAT'S WHERE THE VILLAGE ARE
THERE. >> THAT'S JUST CLARIFYING. >> THIS IS AN ARREST NOT RESTRICTED TO ANY PARTICULAR PEOPLE IF THEY WANT TO BE VACANT BUT THEY'RE BOTH THEIR.
>> YES. >> THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE DO HAVE ONE CARD FROM APRIL STONE.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS AGENDA ITEM?
>> WE WILL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. ANY DISCUSSION BY THE
COMMISSION? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING I SAID LAST MONTH ABOUT THIS. I KNOW THAT MISTER END ZONE HAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUT OVER THE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD AND I'M ACTUALLY GLAD TO SEE THIS. I HAVE OFTEN COMMENTED ON ABOUT WHEN WE SEE DEVELOPMENTS GO IN AND THERE'S NOWHERE FOR PEOPLE TO PUT THEIR BOATS AND RVS. THEN TO PUTTING THEM BASICALLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I DON'T LIVE IN ONE OF THESE COMMUNITIES.
IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT IT'S CLOSE TO THE PEOPLE'S HOME. WITH THAT IT'S LIKE TO MOVE THE
STAFF REPORT. >> I WILL SECOND. >> I WILL FORWARD IT, AND IF I MAY. I AGREE WITH ROB 100%. THESE COMMUNITIES DO PROVIDE SOME BOYS. ALONG WITH JOE'S CONCERN IT'S MOSTLY AROUND AN OPAQUE WALL
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THAT IS 6 FEET. I AM 6 FEET.THAT DOESN'T HIDE MUCH OF A BOAT THAT'S ON A TRAILER. MY QUESTION IS WAS THAT REALLY THE EFFECT IF THEY PUT THIS FACILITY NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREA? MY BACKYARD BACKS UP TO A BOAT AND RV STORAGE AREA. YOU'RE NOT ACCOMPLISHING MUCH WITH THE 6 FOOT FENCE.THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. >> OTHER COMMENTS? >> MY QUESTION IS WHAT WOULD YOU THINK WOULD BE A REASONABLE AMOUNT? YOU GO OVER 8 FEET AND IT GETS REALLY EXPENSIVE. HIS ACADEMIC A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT?
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. MY FIRST CONCERN IS ABOUT THE FAMILY THAT INVESTS MONEY WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THEIR SAVINGS VERSUS THE INVESTMENT OF A BOAT OR RV STORAGE.
THEY PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO IT BUT WHY SHOULD WE ALLOW AN RV AND BOAT STORAGE AREA TO JEOPARDIZE AN INVESTMENT OF SOME HOMEOWNER AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE YARD.
WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT BOTH OF THEM. AS FAR AS HEIGHT, I DON'T HAVE A CLUE. ESPECIALLY FOR TALKING SAILBOATS.
YOU HAVE 40 FOOT WALL. THIS CABIN CRUISER THAT COULD BE UP TO 15 FEET IN THE AIR.
>> BETH PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT RIGHT. DO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT
SAYS YOU CAN HAVE AN 8 FOOT FENCE IN THE COUNTY? >> AHEAD AND ISSUE IN MY
NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS RECENTLY. >> AT THE SUMMIT AT 8 FOOT AND
RESIDENTIAL AREAS. >> THESE RESIDENTIAL RESIDENTS WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A 25 TYPE BUFFER WHICH INCLUDES ALONG WITH THE FUNDS BEING OPAQUE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TREEPLANTING AS WELL WHICH WOULD ALSO HELP TO WHICH WOULD SHIELD FROM A HIGHER LEVEL.
YOUR BOAT THAT PROVIDES ANY. >> THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE FENCE?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> FURTHER DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS?
>> SEEING THEN I WILL CALL THE QUESTION ON FAVOR SAY AYE. >> SAME SIGN? THE MOTION CARRIES. WE MOVE INTO OLD BUSINESS AND NEW BUSINESS.
IS THERE ANY ALTERNATE BASIS THAT THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO CONSIDER?
[Public Comment]
>> IF NOT WE WILL GO TO OUR FINAL PUBLIC COMMENT. .
I WILL OPEN THAT AND WE DO HAVE MISSED APRIL STONE IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR RESIDENCE OR ADDRESS. YOUR PHYSICAL ADDRESS AND YOU
HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE YOUR MMENTS. >> WOMAN: MY NAME IS APRIL STONE I LIVE AT 3334 SAND RIDGE ROAD. MY COMMENT ISN'T IN PARTICULAR TO MY PEACE BUT TO THE PIECES. YOU HAVE A VILLAGE CENTERS IN OUR CIRCLES OR SEMI CIRCLES OR HALF CIRCLES. THEY LOOK LIKE PAC-MAN'S IN SOME PLACES.
MANY OF OUR LANDS ARE SPLIT. THEY ARE HALF BISECTED BY THESE USAGE ZONES.
MY REQUEST WAS SIMPLY THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER UNIFYING THESE PARCELS BY EXTENDING THE PC USAGE TO THE LOT LINES. RATHER THAN THE SEMI CIRCLES THAT WAS NOT IN ONE PARTICULAR
PIECE BUT JUST MOST OF THEM. THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. >> I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION. THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THE NEXT MEETING IS ON JUNE 1.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.