PROCLAMATIONS/RESOLUTIONS

[17. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to Amend Land Development Code to Add RV and Boat Storage as Conditional Use in Certain Master Plan Districts (PC voted 6-1 to approve) (E. Lehman)]

TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT WE WILL LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION THREE -- 5C, MR. BROWN IS HERE TO HELP US THROUGH. HE WILL GET HIMSELF SET UP ON THE COMPUTER. WE DO HAVE TWO OTHER ITEMS, ALL THREE OF THE ITEMS DO HAVE

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PUBLIC HEARINGS ATTACHED. IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON A SPECIFIC ISSUE, YOU ARE WELCOME

TO DO THAT. >> MIKE BROWN, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC SERVICES.

THE FIRST ITEM IS THE SECOND READING, THIS WILL ALLOW FOR THE INCREASE IN DWELLING UNITS.

THIS IS AN INITIATED PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO THE MAXIMUM SIZE TO INCREASE FROM 1,000 SQUARE FEET TO 250,000 SQUARE FEET. WHAT THE PROPOSED WORDING WOULD SAY IN THE COLD, IT WILL ALLOW THE MAXIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE TO BE NO GREATER THAN 40% OF THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE, TODAY, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS MAXED AT 1,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE REASON IS TO ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR CERTAIN HOUSES THAT ARE LARGER IN SIZE.

TO ALLOW FOR THE INCREASE AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 7-14 RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW A SENSORY DWELLING UNITS TO BE NO MORE THAN 40% OF THE GROSS SQUARE FOOTAGE OR 1200 SQUARE FEET, WHICHEVER IS LESS. ALL OF THE OTHER CONDITIONS FOR DWELLINGS WILL REMAIN THE SAME.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> THIS IS LIKE THE

MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE. >> YES. IT COULD BE ATTACHED OR IT

ALLOWS SOMEONE TO LIVE THERE. >> WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, IT IS 50 SQUARE FEET.

THEY DID BUILD 7-1 IN FAVOR AND THE ONE THAT VOTED AGAINST IT, HE WANTED IT TO BE LARGER AND

FIX. HE WANTED MORE. >> HE WANTED A FIXED RATE RATHER

THAN A PERCENTAGE RATE. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE? YOU CAN STEP FORWARD AND WE WILL GET YOUR CARD AFTER THE FACT. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> MOVED FOR APPROVAL. >> ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0.

[18. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Amendment to Sec. 3-5(c) of the Land Development Code to provide that the floor area of an accessory dwelling unit maybe no greater than 40 percent of the primary building's gross square footage or 1,250 square feet whichever is less. (PC voted 7-1 to approve) (M. Brown)]

THANK YOU MR. BROWN. YOU ARE STAINED WITH US FOR THE NEXT ONE AS WELL.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING OR READING, THIS WILL ALLOW RV AND BOAT STORAGE.

THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THIS WILL INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

THE VILLAGES ZONE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER AND THE MASTER-PLANNED COMMUNITIES.

CURRENTLY THE CODE LIMITS, RV AND BOAT STORAGE, AND THE BRANDON FIELD AS CONDITIONAL USE. IN THE LAKE ASBURY AREA, IT IS LIMITED TO THE ACTIVITY CENTER THE PURPOSE OF THE CHANGE, IS TO ALLOW THE LOCATION OF RV AND BOATS STORAGE, ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY. MR. LEHMAN WENT INTO A LOT OF THE DETAILS UP A LAST-MINUTE, SO I WILL SKIP OVER THOSE UNLESS YOU DESIRE TO HEAR THOSE.

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STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE OF DISTRICTS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT THIS WOULD ALLOW THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO BE FOR MORE CONVENIENCE OF THE RESIDENTS.

THE APPLICANT IS HERE TOO. >> WHEN YOU SAY IT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS,

HOW DO YOU MAKE THE CALL ON THAT? >> THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AS AREAS IDENTIFIED INCLUDING THE MASTER-PLANNED AREAS. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS. CAN HE PUT A STORAGE AREA ON

THOSE? >> WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU IF NEED BE, WE WILL CALL ON THE

APPLICANT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS FRANK MILLER MY ADDRESSES ONE INDEPENDENT DRIVE SUITE 200. I MADE A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF THIS AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. MY ANSWER WOULD BE, THE DISTRICT WOULD PREVENT YOU FROM DOING THAT. THE CODE ALLOWS YOU TO PUT STORAGE FACILITIES FOR THOSE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA AND THE

VILLAGE CENTERS I CAN BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THE WETLANDS SOUND LIKE A GREAT PLACE TO STORE A VOTE. I AM ALL FOR BOAT STORAGE. ANYONE? I WILL GET BACK TO YOU IF SOMEONE AS A QUESTION. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE. SEEING NONE I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> MOVED FOR APPROVAL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? BUT SPOKE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU MR. MILLER YOU WILL

[19. 5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing on a Request to Allow a Medical Marijuana Treatment Center Dispensing Facility Within 500 Feet from a Private School Parcel (Commissioner Bolla's District) (E. Lehman)]

STAY WITH US AS WE HAVE A FINAL REQUEST FOR A MEDICAL MARIJUANA CENTER.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR APPROVAL TO LOCATE A MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSING CENTER WITHIN 500 FEET OF A PRIVATE SCHOOL. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS LOCATED ON LANDING BOULEVARD.

STATE STATUTES, AND WE HAVE THE SAME WORDING IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, BUT THE STATUTE STATES THAT, A MEDICAL MARIJUANA TREATMENT FACILITY MAY NOT BE LOCATED WITHIN 500 FEET OF A REAL PROPERTY WHICH HOUSES A SECONDARY OR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

HERE'S THE CAVEAT, UNLESS THE COUNTY APPROVES THE LOCATION OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AT WHICH THE COUNTY DETERMINES IT PROMOTES THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY AND GENERAL SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY.

THE SUBJECT PARCEL, THE SCHOOL THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE 500 FEET IS A CHRISTIAN HOME ACADEMY. NOTICE WAS PROVIDED TO THE SCHOOL STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED

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ANY RESPONSE FROM THEM TODAY. HERE IS A PICTURE, SHOWING THE PROPOSED TENNANT OUTLINED IN THE BLUE IS THE PROPERTY OF WHICH THE SCHOOL IS LOCATED. IT IS APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED DISTRIBUTION CENTER TO THE PROPERTY LINE. THE SCHOOL IS NOT LOCATED AT THE BACK CLOSE POINT BUT IT IS ON THE PROPERTY YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING WHERE THE SCHOOL IS. THE ACTION FOR THE BOARD TODAY IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE LOCATION OF THIS FACILITY PROMOTES THE HEALTH SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND MEETS THE CRITERIA IN FLORIDA STATUTE 381.98611C FOR LOCATING A MEDICAL MARIJUANA FACILITY WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE REAL PROPERTY WHICH INCLUDES A SCHOOL.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF AT THIS POINT? >> HAVE WE MEASURED FROM THE

PROPOSED MEDICAL MARIJUANA STORED TO THE SCHOOL? >> THAT IS ROUGHLY 600 FEET.

THE ACTUAL PHYSICAL LOCATION IS OVER 500 FEET. BUT THE STATUTE REPRESENTS THE

REAL PROPERTY WHICH INCLUDES THE ENTIRE PARCEL. >> AND THE SCHOOL IS AN

INDEPENDENT FOR-PROFIT SCHOOL? >> THEY ARE A PRIVATE SCHOOL. >> THERE PROBABLY LEASING THAT

BUILDING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO, LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE.

>> GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING AND GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT YOU GUYS FOR THE RECORD AND I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING THE PICTURE.

I WILL PROVIDE TO YOU A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER AND I WILL TALK TO YOU MORE AND GIVE REFERENCE TO THE LOCALE, THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE PLEASE.

FIRST AGAIN, THANK YOU. IN 2016 WE HAD A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHERE BOTH THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS WELL AS IN CLAY COUNTY, VOTED MORE THAN 71%, IN SUPPORTING THE LEGALIZATION OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH CERTAIN DEBILITATING DISEASES. THEY OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED AND WAS BUILT ON THE USE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA WITH ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE BOAT THAT WAS PASSED BY THE VOTERS.

THIS WAS COSPONSORED AND HERE IN CLAY COUNTY HAVE IDENTIFIED APPROXIMATELY FOUR DISPENSARIES.

THEY ARE CONCENTRATED ON THE AREA BETWEEN WELLS ROAD IN KINGSLEY AVENUE.

FLORIDA STATUTE 3,819,611C WHICH WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ALLOWS YOU THE COMMISSIONER TO DETERMINE THE LOCATION. THESE ARE CONCENTRATE ON THE GENERAL AREA FROM THE SITE AND THE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS ARE LIMITED. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO OVERCOME ADDITIONAL BARRIERS PRESCRIBED TO THEM BUT THERE PHYSICIANS. THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT GET IN BETWEEN DOCTORS AND THEIR PATIENTS CARE. THEY SHOULD NOT CREATE ADDITIONAL BARRIERS, SOMETHING THE STATUTE DID NOT DEFINE. WE DEFINED IT FOR WHERE THE

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SCHOOL IS LOCATED. THE SCHOOL IS A PARCEL BUT INCLUDES A CHURCH.

THIS WAS MEASURED AND THE FACILITY WOULD BE MORE THAN 600 FEET AWAY.

THE OWNER SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT ON A VACANCY TO OCCUR, OR BE PLACED IN A POSITION OF NEGOTIATING THE READ NEGOTIATING FOR BUILD OUTS DUE TO INTERPRETATION OF WHAT WAS RECEIVED HERE BY STEP. EITHER WAY THE STATUTE WAS MEANT TO PROVIDE YOU, THE FLEXIBILITY TO DETERMINE WHAT PROMOTES PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I KNOW THE BENEFITS OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND HAVING ACCESS TO IT. MY BROTHER IS A VETERAN. HE IS A RETIRED ARMY CAPTAIN.

HE DID A TOUR IN AFGHANISTAN AND WHEN HE RETURNED HE HAD SEVERE PTSD.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT MANY OF THE VETERANS ARE BEING SUBJECTED TO, OPIOIDS, OVER MEDICATION, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE ALMOST LOS& HER. HE WAS SECONDS AWAY FROM BECOMING A STATISTIC THAT MANY OF THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE FIGHTING ARTIST LEE TO REDUCE. BY THE GRACE OF GOD THEY TOLD HIM TO PUT THE GUN DOWN.

THEY RECENTLY RELOCATED TO BENEFIT FROM THE USE OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

THE ONLY MEDICINE HE USES TODAY, IS HIS MEDICAL MARIJUANA AND HAS SINCE RETURNED TO A SENSE OF NORMALITY. IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING TO I AND OUR FAMILY.

HE IS NOT ALONE. I HOPE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE CITIZENS ACCESS TO THEIR

MEDICATION AND THEIR CARE BY APPROVING THIS LOCATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WHICH NUMBER DO YOU KNOW? >> UNIT 14. >> WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

>> IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE READY. >> COMMISSIONER BOLLA.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA OPERATIONS.

I THINK THEY SERVE A LEGITIMATE PURPOSE. WE HAVE FOUR IN THE COUNTY, FROM MY VIEW THIS STUFF IS PRETTY MUCH AVAILABLE. THE PROVISION TO MOVE THESE GREATER THAN 500 FEET FROM SCHOOLSIS THERE FOR A REASON. I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL MAKE MY COMMUNITY OR DISTRICT ANY BETTER. I DO NOT SEE IT AS A POSITIVE STEP. THE PROVISION TO KEEP THEM AWAY FROM SCHOOLS IS THEREFORE A REASON. I SUSPECT WHEN THESE MARIJUANA SHOPS ARE MADE RECREATIONAL THERE WILL BE A BLANKET THING, I WOULD JUST ASSUME WE DON'T HAVE IT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.

THERE ARE OTHER PLACES TO BE USED. IF WERE TALKING MONEY OVER KIDS

I WOULD SIT PUT MY MONEY ON KIDS EVERY DAY. >> THIS IS A HARD ONE.

I'M NOT A MEDICAL DOCTOR BUT I HAVE TO RELY ON THEIR EXPERTISE AND THE TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CONDITIONS. I'M LOOKING AT THE STATUTE AS IT WAS WRITTEN AND WHAT IT WAS WRITTEN FOR. I'M LOOKING AT THIS SITUATION, THE SCHOOL AS LEAST PROBABLY THE BUILDING WE'RE TALKING 600 FEET AND SIX LANE HIGHWAYS THAT SEPARATED.

WE ARE LOOKING AT A LOCATION, THAT IS INVISIBLE TO THE SCHOOL. YOU CANNOT SEE THE SCHOOL FROM THIS LOCATION. I AM NOT, I HAVE MY PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT THIS BUT THEN

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AGAIN, IT IS NOT MY POSITION TO JUDGE HOW MANY IS TOO MANY. I'M ALL FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. IF YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO PLACE A BICYCLE STORE, I DON'T THINK MY VIEWS SHOULD PLAY IN THIS DECISION. THE FACT THAT WE COULD MOVE THIS FACILITY DOWN, IT WOULD BASICALLY BE IN THE SAME PLACE. WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME SITUATION. IT WOULD JUST COST MORE. I DON'T KNOW THE CAUSE.

I AM LEANING TOWARDS, PROVIDING THIS SERVICE TO THE CONSTITUENTS , IT IS UP TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHAT WILL WORK FOR& YOU. LIKE I SAID, OUR LEADERS SAID THIS IS THE WAY WE SHOULD GO AS OPPOSED TO OPIOID TREATMENTS, I WILL JUST HAVE TO GO WITH THIS.

THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER. >> I WOULD JUST SAY, IT IS INTRIGUING THE WAY THE LAWS ARE WRITTEN IN OUR STATE AND COUNTRY THAT TARGET SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES AND NOT INDUSTRIES. I AM THE MOTHER OF A TEENAGE BOY, WHO IS A 22-YEAR-OLD MAN AND AN 18-YEAR-OLD GRADUATED FROM MY SCHOOL AND I WOULD HAVE TO SAY, OF ALL OF THESE VAPOR SHOPS THAT ARE A DIME A DOZEN I WOULD RATHER HAVE A MEDICAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY IN MY HOMETOWN WHICH IS KEYSTONE HEIGHTS BAND 2-3 VAPOR SHOPS THAT WE HAVE NOW I THINK THOSE ARE FAR TOO RISKY FOR THE KIDS. AND WE ALLOW THESE PAIN CLINICS TO POP UP.

WE HAVE ONE THAT IS AN OLD WALGREENS. THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY BUT I KNOW PEOPLE GO THERE AND IT IS LIKE A PILL MILL.

THEY CAN GO IN, THEY WALK IN TO SEE THE DOCTOR AND THEY SAY WHAT KIND OF A PRESCRIPTION DO YOU WANT. THEY DON'T EVEN SAY WHAT IS GOING ON.

I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY HAD ANY FAMILY MEMBERS OR USE MEDICAL MARIJUANA BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TARGET INDIVIDUAL INDUSTRY. I SHOP AT A VEGETABLE MARKET THAT HAS BEEN HEAR FROM MEXICO FOR 20 YEARS. OTHER VEGETABLE MARKET MOVED IN BESIDE A CONVENIENCE STORE AND THEY HAVE SIGNS ON EACH SIDE, EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY IT IRRITATES ME.

EVERY TIME I SEE SOMEONE SANE WONDERFUL NEW PROTISTS GO AND SHOP WITH THEM, I WANT TO RESPOND AND SAY, GO SHOP WITH YOUR HOMETOWN PERSONAL HAS BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS BUT THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE US. IS THAT WHY PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE IN THE BUSINESS OF PICKING AND CHOOSING WHO CAN HAVE BUSINESSES WHERE IF THEY DON'T PROVIDE A RISK TO THE PUBLIC. I HAVE BEEN ON BOTH PROPERTIES, YOU CANNOT SEE ONE FROM THE OTHER. NUMBER TWO, THE CONTROL AROUND THESE DISPENSARY FACILITIES ARE MORE LIKE DOCTORS OFFICES THAN THEY ARE LIKE A STORE THAT YOU CAN GO IN. I KNOW WE ARE PICTURING WHAT WE SEE ON THE NEWS THAT IT IS A FANCY STORE AND IT LOOKS COOL, BUT THEY ARE NOT. THEY ARE STARK, CLEAN FACILITIES. THIS PROPOSAL, I DID A SEARCH ON THIS COMPANY AND THEY ARE OPENING A 500,000 SQUARE-FOOT MANUFACTURING FACILITY RIGHT NEXT DOOR IN PUTNAM COUNTY.

THIS KIND OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROCESSING FACILITIES, WHEN WE HAD THAT SHERIFFS AND EARLIER, THEY ARE THAT SECURE. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT KIND OF A FACILITY BUT ONE WENT INTO QUINCY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TALLAHASSEE, IT HAS CHANGED THE COUNTY.

THEY WERE ONE OF THE POOREST COUNTIES IN THE STATE BUT NOW THEY HAVE 1600 WELL-PAYING JOBS FOR THAT COMMUNITY THAT REALLY DID NOT HAVE A LOT OF HOPE. THEY ARE SEARCHED WHEN THEY COME IN AND WHEN THEY GO OUT. VERY CLEAN OPERATION SPIRIT SO, SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS MAY GO THERE TO WORK AT THE FACILITY. I DON'T THINK THIS HAS THE STIGMA.

TAKE THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY, MY HUSBAND AND I USED TO HONE A HOME IN MICHIGAN AND THEY HAD MEDICAL MARIJUANA FACILITIES THERE. I THOUGHT WHO IS HANGING OUT IN

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THE PARKING LOTS. ARE THERE PEOPLE OUT THERE, SOMEONE GOES IN AND PICKS UP THEIR PRESCRIPTION AND THEN THEY COME TO SELL IT, AND THAT WAS NOT GOING ON.

I HAVE NOT SPECIFICALLY VISITED ALL OF THE LOCATIONS BUT I DON'T KNOW, TO THE APPLICANT'S POINT, IF THIS WERE 100 FEET DIFFERENT OR MEASURED DIFFERENTLY, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO COME TO US.

THE FACT THAT THEY DO, SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, LIKE A SLEIGHT OF HAND.

I AM SORRY COMMISSIONER BOLLA, I DON'T THINK IN THIS CASE I WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT FEELING IF IT

WERE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT THAT IS HOW I FEEL TODAY. >> COMMISSIONER BURKE.

>> I WOULD SAY DEALING WITH PATIENTS REGULARLY, I HAVE COURSE SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE HURTING, AND DYING AND SUFFERING, I DEFINITELY SEE A NEED FOR THIS, EVEN IN MY PERSONAL OPINION IT IS NOT SOMETHING I PARTAKEN BUT I DON'T KNOW, IF I WAS IN DEPOSITION.

I AM SURPRISED, THE SCHOOL OF THE CHURCH DID NOT RESPOND. TO ME THAT WOULD SAY, THEY ARE NOT CONCERNED. I DO THINK THAT, THE SCHOOL IS FURTHER AWAY THAN THE 400 FEET, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM. I DID RESEARCH ALSO, A REPTILE COMPANY, THE WAY THEY REPRESENT THEMSELVES. THE SECURITY. I THINK IT WOULD BE A FINE

ESTABLISHMENT FOR OUR COUNTY. >> LET'S JUST MAKE IT CLEAR, AND I AGREE IN REGARDS TO THE INDUSTRY, COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND I WERE ON THE BOARD WHEN WE BROUGHT IT TO THE COUNTY BUT THERE WERE STIPULATIONS ALLOWED UNDER THE STATUTE TO LET US MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OF WHERE THEY WILL BE LOCATED. HENCE, WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DECIDE ON TODAY.

WHEN MEDICAL MARIJUANA CAME I WAS AGAINST IT UNTIL ACTED GO ON A TOUR AND AT A PROCESSING PLANT AND TALK TO THE PATIENTS WHO WERE USING IT. I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR IT, I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME LOCATIONS THAT ARE OPEN FOR THOSE IN CERTAIN AREAS.

MY PROBLEM IS, WE ARE LOOKING TO OVERTURN SOMETHING WHICH I THINK SETS A PRECEDENT IN OTHER CASES WHERE WE MEASURE FROM PARCEL TO PARCEL NOT FRONT DOOR TO FRONT DOOR.

EVEN WHEN I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT HE SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF HOW IT IS MEASURED. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THEY HAVE ANOTHER SITE THAT IS LOCATED IN THIS PLAZA BUT IT MAY BE BIG FOR THEM BUT THEY COULD PROBABLY MAKE A CHANGE THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. MAKING SURE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FITS AND THEY HAVE A SHOPPING PLAZA ON CLEVELAN AVENUE, FURTHER INTO MIDDLEBURG AS YOU MOVE DOWN THE STREET THERE'S ONE ON EVERY BLOCK, WIFE A TARGETED THIS SHOULD CENTER AND CAN'T MOVE IT TO ANOTHER ONE, AND IF THEY MOVE IT TO FAR IT MAY END UP IN YOUR DISTRICT WITH THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I WOULD HOLD THAT, IF THEY PICKED ANOTHER LOCATION, I THINK YOU SAID THEY WOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE THEY COULD OPEN UP LIKE THE OTHER SIX, THAT WE DID EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE THERE UNTIL WE DID RESEARCH.

IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE OUR STATUTES, AND I'M GOING TO STICK BY THAT STATUTE AS BADLY AS I THINK SOME PEOPLE MAY NEED MIRACLE -- MEDICAL MARIJUANA THEY CAN DELIVER IT TO YOU THEY HAVE SIX OTHER LOCATIONS AND MANY OTHER SHOPPING PLAZAS THAT ARE FOR RENT OR FOR LEASE THAT THEY CAN FIND OUTSIDE OF THIS ONE. SO, I WILL HAVE TO SIDE WITH COMMISSIONER BOLLA ON THIS AND NOT BE IN FAVOR. THAT BEING SAID, I AM READY FOR

MOTION. >> LET ME ASK A QUESTION. >> GO AHEAD.

>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH MR. BROWN, YOU MENTIONED THE STATUTE BUT HE SAYS UNLESS YOU

HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING WHAT IS OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. >> I'M SORRY I HAVE TO REPEAT

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IT, I HAD THE RED LIGHT. >> MY QUESTION FOR THOSE ONLINE, COULD YOU PLEASE CLARIFY WHERE THE STATUTE SAYS IT IS LESS THAN 500 FEET UNLESS WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REFERENCES THE STATUTE. >> OKAY.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> EX-ALL. I AM READY FOR A MOTION OR

FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> PUBLIC HEARING. >> HAVE A QUESTION.

>> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE POSITION IS AS FAR AS THESE OTHER PLACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE?

>> I DID THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT IS WHEN JOSH CAME UP. TANTRUM SORRY.

>> CERTAINLY, THERE'S NO OTHER SPACE AVAILABLE OUTSIDE OF THE 500 PLUS DISTANCE.

THE ONLY TWO OR THREE OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE NORTHERN SIDE THERE IS A KARATE SCHOOL THERE AND A HAIR SALON, THOSE ARE ALL OCCUPIED. I WANT TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER POINT, HE MENTIONED THE 500-FOOT DISTANCE. 400-500, WHAT IT DOES STATE, THE STATUTE, THIS IS WHERE I QUESTION YOUR POSITION. IT STATES UNLESS YOU THE BODY DETERMINED THE LOCATION PROMOTES THE PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, EACH OF YOU CANNOT FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT PROMOTES THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE WILL ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

I DO WANT TO BACK TO THAT. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT.

>> MY ANSWER WOULD BE, WE HAVE SIX LOCATIONS ALREADY AND THEY CAN ALSO OFFER DELIVERY AND THEY CAN TAKE IT BY DELIVERY YOUR CLIENT CAN ALSO LOOK FOR A LOCATION WHICH IS EITHER WEST OR EAST OF THAT LOCATION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE HERE.

>> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING IN MY DISTRICT OR WITH MEDICAL MARIJUANA.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING NEXT TO A SCHOOL. YOU PUT A BAR IN THERE TOO

THAT'S TOO CLOSE TO THE SCHOOL. >> I WOULD BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MOVE WE APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. >> I SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY I.

ANY OPPOSED? THE CHAIR VOTES NO, IT CARRIES 3-2.

>> OKAY SO WE ARE DONE WITH THE TIME CERTAIN SO WE CAN GO BACK TO NUMBER 11 WHICH IS THE CARES

[11. CARES Act Update]

ACT UPDATE. >> SO, THESE NUMBERS WILL LOOKS FAMILIAR THE STATE IS IN A LIMBO APPROVING PROJECTS NOTHING HAS CHANGED THE NUMBERS ARE THE SAME AS THEY WERE TWO WEEKS AGO.

THE CARES ACT RENTAL ASSISTANCE. I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE. 400 OF THE APPLICATIONS ARE COMPLETE WHERE THEY SUBMITTED AND MADE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS AS FAR AS SUBMITTING THE DOCUMENTATION. IF WE FUNDED THE MALL WE ARE LOOKING AT 1.7 MILLION SO I STILL THINK THAT IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST MEETING THE TOTAL APPLICATIONS APPROVED, 31 HAVE BEEN TOTALLY APPROVED AND WE HAVE ALLOCATED $82,000.

WE ARE HAVE A LOT OF, THE PROVISIONS FOR LANDLORDS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IF THE LANDLORD DOES NOT RESPOND WE GIVE THEM 14 DAYS. WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED. IN THE REJECTED WE HAVE 161 APPLICATIONS THAT DID NOT LIVE NOT LIVE IN A COMPARABLE COUNTY AND ON THAT NOTE I WILL TURN IT OVER TO VICTORIA, THE VERBIAGE KEEPS CHANGING AND DIFFERENT THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITH THE INTERPRETATIONS. WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE ON THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LONG TERM STAYS

IN VICTORIA NEEDS TO GO OVER THAT WITH YOU GUYS. >> HELLO.

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I AM THE SOCIAL SERVICE MANAGER. SO, ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE RUN INTO WE HAVE A FEW APPLICANTS WHO ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN EXTENDED-STAY HOTELS. SPECIFICALLY ONE THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH, THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THE EVICTION PROCESS BUT THEY ARE BEING TOLD THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 29 DAYS THEY ARE CONSIDERED RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY.

WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE TREASURY ON HOW TO HANDLE TO HANDLE HAT.

ORIGINALLY WE DID NOT SEE THEM AS PERMANENT RESIDENTS OF CLAY COUNTY.

THAT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED, AS LONG AS THEY ARE HERE 29 DAYS THEY ARE CONSIDERED RESIDENTS SO WE ARE PROPOSING, WE HAVE TO HAVE YOU GUYS ADOPT A PROCEDURE OR POLICY TO MOVE FORWARD, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO MEET ALL OF THE SAME PROVISIONS. THEM TO PROVE THAT WITH THEIR DRIVERS LICENSE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING THEY CAN OBTAIN.

THEY, THEY NEED TO HAVE HAD SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION BY THE END OF DAY.

ALL OF THE SAME RULES BUT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THAT WE CAN DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT

THAT. >> RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE ONE CASE. >> NO, WE HAVE ABOUT 15 CURRENTLY. AND UNFORTUNATELY ALL OF THOSE OUR FOCUS ON ONE EXTENDED-STAY.

>> I ONLY KNOW OF ONE FACILITY,. >> THAT FACILITY ITSELF IS VERY AFFECTED BY THIS.

>> THE ONE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ONE ON LANDING. >> IS THIS SOMETHING THEY COULD DO GOING FORWARD, IS THIS 29 DAYS PRIOR TO TODAY BUT THEY CAN ONLY DO IT ONCE, AS PEOPLE BEEN

IN THE EXTENDED-STAY HOTEL FOUR MONTHS? >> AS LONG AS THEY CAN PROVE THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A MINIMUM OF 29 DAYS. SOME HAVE BEEN THERE FOR TEN MONTHS. WE CAN DO PAST DUE AND PAY FOR THE TEN MONTHS.

WE WOULD LOOK AT IT AS A RENTAL PROPERTY JUST AND IN EXTENDED-STAY WE WOULD SLEPT UP DOCUMENTATION FROM THE OWNER OF THE HOTEL AND WE WOULD DO THE SAME VERIFICATION PROCESSES, WE WOULD JUST ACCEPT EXTENDED-STAY RESIDENT AS A TENNANT, ESSENTIALLY.

>> DO THEY HAVE LEASES. WE SAID FOR THE OTHER TENANTS THEY HAD TO HAVE A MONTH TO

MONTH LEASE. >> THEY WILL HAVE A MONTH TO MONTH OR TWO WEEK AGREEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT EXTENDED-STAY WORKS BUT USUALLY THEY PAY EVERY TWO WEEKS.

THEY HAVE A CONTRACT OR A BILL OR STATEMENT AS WELL AS LANDLORD VERIFICATION FORM THAT WORKS

HAND-IN-HAND AS THE LEASE. >> I CERTAINLY WANT TO HELP THE TENNANT AND THE OWNER THAT HAS HAD THESE PEOPLE IN THERE. I DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOOR WHERE SOMEONE CAN COME UP AND SAY, BECAUSE OF COVID MY DAUGHTER MOVED IN THE SHE HAS BEEN HERE FOR 29 DAYS AND I HAVE

NOT BEEN GETTING RENT. >> WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE PROOF OF RESIDENCY.

THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO PROVE A LEASBURG IF SOMEONE WANTS TO HAVE A LEASE BETWEEN THEIR DAUGHTER, WE CAN PROCESS THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE LEGALLY BINDING LEASE.

WE WOULD STILL HOLD THEM TO THE SAME STANDARDS, THE SAME DOCUMENTATION.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TREATING EVERYONE EQUALLY AND HAVE ALL OF THE SAME

DOCUMENTATION. >> MUST BE ABLE TO OBTAIN A FLORIDA'S DRIVER'S LICENSE.

DOES THAT MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE ONE? >> A LOT OF ISSUES WE RUN INTO, THE TENNANT STILL HAVE THEIR OLD DRIVERS LICENSE BECAUSE IT IS A MORE INVOLVED PROCESS TO OBTAIN A CLAY COUNTY DRIVERS LICENSE. THEY HAVE TO PROVE THEY ARE A RESIDENT OF CLAY COUNTY.

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I DO HAVE SOME STATE STATUTES. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW MORE ON THAT.

>> THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE UTILITY BILLS. >> THERE ARE STATE STATUES THAT ALLOWS SOMEONE TO GET A DRIVERS LICENSE BUT YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA.

YOU HAVE TO MEET THE BURDEN THAT THE TAX COLLECTOR PUTS ON TO SAY YOU LIVED THERE.

IF THEY CAN'T DO THAT, WE CANNOT ACCEPT THEM AS A CLAY COUNTY RESIDENT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT MEET THAT LEVEL. THAT IS A PERSPECTIVE PERSON, A PROSPECTIVE RESIDENT AT THAT

POINT WITHOUT THE DRIVERS LICENSE. >> PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STAYING HERE FOR MONTHS, NOT PAYING THE OWNER, AND THE HOTEL OWNER IS BASICALLY LOOKING FOR RELIEF BECAUSE THEY ARE CAUGHT IN A CATCH-22 THEY ARE GOING TO THE JUDGE AND THEY SAY THEY CANNOT BE EVICTED SO YOU HAVE THIS EXTENDED-STAY HOTEL, THE ONE IN PARTICULAR WHO IS STUCK IN LIMBO, THEY CANNOT GET RID OF THE PEOPLE, THEY CANNOT GET ANY MONEY, THEY ARE RESIDENTS THEY DON'T MEET OUR PROGRAM. THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE, CAN THE BOARD LET THIS FIT INTO OUR

PROGRAM. >> AND WE HAVE THE MONEY. >> THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE DATE OF APRIL 30. WE ARE NOT SAYING GO TO CLAY COUNTY AND RENT A HOTEL.

WE WILL PAY THE BILL. >> THE APRIL 30 DEADLINE, WE ARE THREE DAYS AWAY.

IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN HERE, WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN PANDORA'S BOX AND SAY COME SAYING CLAY COUNTY

AND AFTER SIX MONTHS WE WILL PAY YOUR RENT. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION, WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD CREATE CITIZENS BY SHOWING THE LARGESS OF THE TAXPAYER, GIVE ME A PROFILE, OF SOMEONE THAT IS AT AN ACCIDENT THIS DAY FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS, WHERE

THEY EVICTED, HOW DID THEY HAPPEN TO BE HERE. >> FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE APPLICANTS THEY WERE EVICTED FROM THEIR HOME, THEY MOVED FROM ANOTHER STATE AND MOVED TO CLAY COUNTY THEY HAVE LIVED IN THE EXTENDED-STAY FOR TEN MONTHS THEY WERE EVICTED THEY LOST THEIR JOB. I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO ONE EVICTED BECAUSE OF COVID.

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE EVICTION WAS DUE TO COVID. CASE.

THEY MAY HAVE BROKEN THEIR LEASE IN OTHER WAYS. YOU CAN DO IT.

SO, THEY HAD MOVED HERE RENTED THE HOTEL, THEY PAID FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND THEN BECAUSE THEY WERE LIVING OFF WHAT THEY BROUGHT THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB THEY ARE OUT OF MONEY, SO THEY ARE STAYING AT BECAUSE OF THE PROVISIONS PUT INTO PLACE THEY CANNOT BE EVICTED BECAUSE THE JUDGE VIEWS THEM AS RESIDETS AND IF THEY CAN PROVE THEY CAN FILL OUT THE CBC -- CDC AFFIDAVIT SAYING THEY HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY COVID THEY CANNOT BE REMOVED.

THEY ARE STUCK. A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED IN, THEY WERE EITHER HOMELESS, THEY LOST THEIR JOBS, THEY COULD NOT STAY WHERE THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY, THERE WAS A FAMILY SAME WITH FRIENDS AND THEY MOVED, THEN THEY MOVED INTO THE HOTEL BECAUSE THEY NEEDED A

PLACE TO STAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF STORIES. >> IF WE AGREE TO PAY, EVEN SIX

MONTHS BACK, -- 12 MONTHS BACK. >> THEY WON'T BE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION IN 3-4 MONTHS, WE WILL BE PAYING THE HOTEL OWNER BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT MOVING FORWARD TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE AND IF THEY HAVE NO JOB, THEY WON'T ALL OF A SUDDEN COME INTO MONEY TO PAY FOR THEIR FUTURE RENT SO

THEY WILL BE LOOKING TO US AGAIN IN SIX MONTHS. >> THE GOOD THING IS, WE KEEP TRACK, ONCE WE HAVE REACHED THE 12 MONTH THRESHOLD WE CAN'T PAY. I THINK THERE IS A NEED AND THE COUNTY FOR EDUCATION AS FAR AS WHEN PEOPLE GET INTO THESE SITUATIONS HOW CAN WE ASSIST

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THEM TO BETTER THEMSELVES I DO THINK THAT IS A NEED WE COULD LOOK AT FILLING IN SOME WAY BUT REALLY THIS IS TO HELP OUT ONE OF OUR LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS. HE IS REALLY STUCK IN A POSITION THAT HE IS OLD A LOT OF MONEY AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE HIM CLOSES DOORS.

>> HE IS TRULY A VICTIM OF COVID. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

>> EXTENDED-STAY, THAT IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. ISN'T THERE ONE ON WELLS ROAD?

>> THERE ARE TWO OF THEM. >> THEY ARE PROBABLY IN THE SAME SITUATION.

>> I JUST KNOW THE OWNER OF THE ONE ON LANDING AS REACHED OUT. >> MY POINT IS, IF THEY ARE HURTING AS WELL, SIMILARLY TO THIS EXTENDED-STAY, MAYBE WE SHOULD REACH OUT TO HIM OR HER.

THIS IS NOT NEW. IN THE LOWER ECHELON OF HOTELS, YOU WILL FIND PEOPLE LIVING THERE FOR MONTHS, YOU GET ELECTRIC, INTERNET, YOU GET ALL OF THE UTILITIES PROVIDED FOR $49 PER NIGHT. IT COULD BE CHEAPER THAN A RENTAL, YOU SEE PEOPLE LIVING IN

HOTELS. >> UNFORTUNATELY, THAT CAN BE THEIR ONLY OPTION BECAUSE MAYBE THEY DON'T PASS A CREDIT CHECK OR THEY HAVE LOW INCOME APARTMENTS THAT ARE FULL.

UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THAT IS THEIR ONLY OPTION. >> LET'S SAY WE HAVE 15 AND ONE AND 15 IN THE OTHER, WITH A MAXIMUM OF 12 MONTHS, WHAT DOES THAT DUE TO OUR NUMBERS ARE WE STILL IN GOOD SHAPE AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER RESIDENTS?

>> WITH THE APPLICANTS WE HAVE FROM THE EXTENDED-STAY THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE COMPLETED APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE IN A HOLDING PERIOD UNTIL I BROUGHT THIS ISSUE UP.

THEY ARE INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL. >> I THINK WE SHOULD HELP THIS BUSINESS OWNER OUT. HE ALSO DONATES AT LEAST ONE ROOM FOR OPERATION BARNABAS.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE MET THEIR NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BUT OPERATION BARNABAS TAKES FIRST RESPONDERS AND VETERANS OFF OF THE STREETS AND GETS THEM INTO SITUATIONS AND THIS IS HOW THEY DO IT. HE GIVES THEM A SPACE. HE DOES GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T LOVE THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY, ALL WE ARE DOING FOR THE RESIDENT IS CHASING THEM,.

>> THEY PROBABLY HAVE OTHER WAS CHASING THEM AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY, THERE ARE HELP WANTED JOBS EVERYWHERE. I HOPE WHEN YOU DO THIS COUNSELING YOU ENCOURAGE THEM TO

FIND A JOB SOMEWHERE. >> I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE DOING THE COUNSELING WE WILL POINT THEM IN THE DIRECTION OF SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES THAT CAN HELP THEM MOVE FORWARD.

THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO, BY CLEARING THIS AND IF THIS HELPS THEM IN REGARDS TO GETTING OUT OF THE CYCLE, IT IS WORTH THE TAX DOLLARS AND THE PROGRAM DOLLARS THAT WERE SET ASIDE FOR THIS PURPOSE. I'M GETTING THE CONSENSUS, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, WE CAN VOTE ON THAT AT THIS TIME AND GIVE VICTORIA SOME DIRECTION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION WE MAKE THIS OFFER TO EXTENDED-STAY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO THEM AS WELL.

>> I HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT. >> I WILL SECOND THE MOTION. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> WE CONTRACT WITH MERCY SERVICES TO PROVIDE, THESE PEOPLE PROBABLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT SERVICES ARE CLAY COUNTY. WE SHOULD GET THIS WORD TO THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF MERCY COULD PROVIDE A PACKET WITH AN APPROVAL LETTER, THAT MERCY SERVICES MAY BE ABLE TO HELP

THEM. HOW DO YOU GET BACK ON TRACK. >> I WILL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THEM. I WORK WITH THEM AND WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN OFFER.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE BROUGHT UP WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, ARE THE COMMUNITY LIAISON SPIRIT THOSE SPECIFIC POSITIONS, THAT WOULD BE THEIR JOB TO COME ME -- MAKE THESE CONNECTIONS THAT WHEN

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WE RUN INTO THIS WE KNOW WHERE TO POINT THE RESIDENCE TO GET HELP.

>> THEY SHOULD MEET THEM RIGHT THERE AT THE HOTEL. WE NEED TO BRING IT TO THEM TO FIND OUT WHERE WE NEED TO GO, TO GET THEM BACK IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION.

>> I WILL WORK ON THAT. WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT YOU GUYS PUT IN.

I KNOW IT IS NOT EASY. >> I THINK WE ARE WAITING. >> ALRIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND

A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIED 5-0. >> WE MOVED INTO OLD BUSINESS.

[12. Development Agreement between Clay County and Niagara Bottling, LLC and Water-Ade Properties, LLC (Project Belle)]

DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLAY COUNTY AND NIAGARA BOTTLING.

GOOD EVENING. >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU. THIS IS A FOLLOW UP JJ HARRIS WITH THE COUNCIL. THIS IS FOR PROJECT BELL THEY STARTED LOOKING IN OUR AREA IN FEBRUARY. THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A BOTTLE MANUFACTURING FACILITY.

THEY NEEDED CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, LAND AND THROUGH THE DILIGENT WORK OF THE STAFF HERE, THE COUNTY ENGINEERING, PLANNING, BUILDING AND ZONING, OBVIOUSLY YOUR ASSISTANCE GUIDING AND DIRECTING WE WERE ABLE TO LAND PROJECT BELLE. THEY ARE LOOKING AT LARGER FACILITIES, 554,095 SQUARE FEET EXPANDABLE, THE ESTIMATED INITIAL BUILDING WAS UP TO 90 MILLION. THEY WILL START OUT WITH 50 EMPLOYEES, +-PLUS-MINUS-SIGN.

BIKE Q1 22 THEY WILL BE SHIPPING THE FIRST PALLET. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY. THEY BOUGHT 151 ACRES IN THE CHALLENGER CENTER.

THAT WILL BE NORTH OF ATLANTIS DRIVE THAT IS THE PROJECT ROADWAY, COUNTY COUNTY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND YOU GUYS THE INVESTMENT INCLUDES SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TOTALS FOR CLAY ELECTRIC IT WILL DEFINITELY BE A GATEWAY BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE WOULD BE SOME REVISIONS TO COME BUT WE ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED AND WITH THE CORRECTION OF THE TYPE OF.

I WANT TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND CONGRATULATE YOU AND THE COMMISSION AND THE

STAFF,. >> THERE WAS A COMPLEX SENTENCE THAT.

>> OF THE TARGETED INDUSTRIES CAN CHANGE. WHEN WE LOOK AT A CALL BACK IF THEY DON'T MAINTAIN QGI, IT COULD CHANGE NEXT WEEK. I CALLED TALLAHASSEE AND THEY

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PROBABLY WON'T PASS ANYTHING THIS SESSION, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED OF WHAT QTI MEAN SPIRIT. >> THAT IS A GREAT POINT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATES UTI PROGRAM QUALIFIED TARGET INDUSTRIES.

WE HAVE A LOCAL LEVEL HALF-HOUR TARGETED INDUSTRIES. WHAT WE LOOK AT IT WITH YOU PROMOTED AND WE PUT INTO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS, HIGH WAGE JOBS, AVIATION, SUPPORT SERVICES THAT ENGINEERING AND HIGHWAY JOBS. SUBSTANTIAL JOBS.

WHAT WE LOOK AT IS Q TI, IS NOT RETAIL, LOWER IN JOBS, ANYTHING ABOVE $40,000.

WIGGLED BEYOND THAT THAT AND YOU CAN HAVE A LOT OF BASIC JOBS THAT PAY $40,000 BUT WE WANT JOBS THAT PAY $70,080,000. WE WANT JOBS LIKE WHAT PROJECT BELLE WILL OFFER THAT IS ABOVE THE WAGES. WE TALK ABOUT Q TI WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO THINGS, SAME VERNACULAR SAME ACRONYM, BUT IT IS BASICALLY THE TARGET INDUSTRIES THAT WE WANT LOCALLY.

STILL SEPARATE BUT WE CAN DEFINE IT. >> I THINK MY COMMENT APPLIES.

IF WE CHANGE OUR DECISION, I WOULD NOT WANT TO GET MONEY FROM A COMPANY THAT WE AGREED IN 2021

IF WE CHANGE EMERICK UTI,. >> I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A SENTENCE THAT SAYS THE Q TI AS

APPROVED IN THIS DOCUMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> AS WE GO IN, WE HAVE THE POLICY AND WE HAVE THE ECONOMIC POLICY WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN THAT WAY AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE

CONTRACT. WE BELIEVE THAT. >> WE CAN SPELL OUT Q TI AND IT COULD BE VERSION ONE POINT OVER 1.1. WE COULD HAVE IT DEFINED.

>> I THINK THAT IS AN EASY FIX. I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT HE IS HERE, IT MEANT THEM BEFORE. IS ON THE QUIET SIDE IS NOT A PR GUY, HE LIKES TO GO UNDER THE RADAR. HE HAS A GOOD-LOOKING MONTH SO I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DOESN'T WANT

TO BE IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA BUT I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE HIM. >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

THERE IS NO BIGGER PROPONENT OF MANUFACTURING THAN I ■AM, BUT, WHERE IT HAS GOTTEN OUT, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION FOR THE PUBLIC SPECIFICALLY THEY HAVE ALL FOUR LINES RIGHT HERE. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A MINOR AMOUNT OF THE CUP.

>> LESS THAN IF WE ADDED ANOTHER 1,000 HOMES FOR THE SUBDIVISION. >> THE THING ABOUT THIS COMPANY I ALSO LIKE, THEY ARE PROACTIE WITH RECYCLING, CONSERVATION, AND THEY ARE VERY ADVANCED IN THEIR MANUFACTURING. I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY FROM EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD, THEY LEAD THE WAY IN RECYCLING, SUSTAINABILITY, AND THEY WILL BE A GOOD PARTNER AND ALL OF THE EFFORTS WE PURSUE. THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE DISTRICT'S PLAN AND ENVIRONMENTAL SAFETY. THEY BOUGHT 150 ACRES. THEY WILL USE 46 IN THE PLAN PROCESS. THEY ARE BUILDING A BUFFER AND THEY ARE GOOD STEWARDS.

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AND THE CITIZENS ARE CONCERNED THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE TO WORSENING THAT.

I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY, IS THAT THIS IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE NESTLÉ BOTTLING PLANT THAT MADE NATIONAL NEWS WHERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY PUMPING SPRINGWATER AND

BOBBLING IT AND SETTLING IT. >> CAN WE CLARIFY, THERE ARE THREE REVISIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE. I BELIEVE TALKING TO THEIR REPRESENTATIVES THEY HAVE TO RUN IT BACK THROUGH THEIR LEGAL DO YOU WANT US TO BRING IT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU OR MAKE THOSE

REVISIONS AND IF IT IS OKAY TO HAVE THE COMMISSIONERS SIGN IT. >> THEY HAVE ALREADY SIGNED THE

DOCUMENT, SO LET'S JUST SIGN IT AND SEND IT BACK TO THEM. >> SO, WE HAVE THAT STRAIGHT WITH OUR MOTION AND OVER SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0.

>> HE IS A SHY GUY. HE JUST GETS THINGS DONE. >> SO WE MOVED TO NUMBER 13

[13. Approval of Revisions to Clay County Board of County Commissioners' Standing Rules]

WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF REVISIONS TO CLAY COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS STANDING RULES

THAT WOULD BE UNDER NUMBER 13. >> SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS DOCUMENT.

I SPOKE TO A RESIDENT FOR OVER AN HOUR ABOUT THIS SO I THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION. SO, ONE CONCERN IS, WHERE WILL THESE BE LOCATED.

WILL THEY BE ON OUR WEBSITE OR PART OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE RIGHT NOW IS NOT ON OUR WEBSITE. I DID ASK, MS. GRAHAM ABOUT THAT AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS, I WORKED CODE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED FROM THIS. THE COUNTY MANAGER HAS THE SON IS TO DO LIST. THERE IS AN APPRECIATION FOR, IT COULD BE FOUND FOR THE PUBLIC.

THEY CAN MAKE APPOINTMENTS AND LOOK AT IT. I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG IT IS.

THEY CAN GET ACCESS BUT IT IS NOT AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. ARE THESE STANDING RULES, IF WE

PASS THEM TODAY WILL THEY WAIT FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE. >> I WOULD SAY, THEY COULD BE

MOVED. >> WHEN THEY WERE ADOPTED, THE BOARD DID NOT MAKE THEM PART OF

THE CODE SO THAT WOULD BE A DECISION YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE. >> WE WILL PUBLISH THOSE AND PRESENT THOSE AS QUICKLY AS WE CORRECT ANY CHANGES AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE.

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>> ON PARAGRAPH 1.103, WHEN WE SAY WE WILL NOT VOTE ON ANY ACTION, SOMETIMES WE WILL GIVE CONSENSUS WHICH COULD BE CONSIDERED A FORMAL ACTION, SHOULD WE CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE

MORE? >> WE SOMETIMES GIVE DIRECTIONS ON THE ANIMAL SERVICE WORKSHOP.

>> THAT WAS FOR PREPARATION OF INFORMATION TO BE USED AT THE NEXT MEETING.

WE CAN CLARIFY SPECIFICALLY, CERTAIN KIND OF DIRECTION. THE WORKSHOP IS SO WE CAN FORMULATE AN OPINION AND GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF SO THEY CAN BRING GET BACK TO US.

I GUESS WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH WHATEVER THE LANGUAGE WILL BE.

THE INTENT IS TO LET THEM KNOW THERE IS NO BOARD DECISION MADE. >> ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I THOUGHT WAS REASONABLE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE EMERGENCY READINGS WE SAY THEY WILL BE POSTED THE WAY WE POST OUR REGULAR MEETINGS. BUT WHAT IF WE DON'T HAVE, WHEN BOTH MATTHEW AND IRMA CAME THROUGH WE HAD WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES, WHAT IF SOMEONE CAN'T UPDATE THE WEBSITE, WE DON'T ADDRESS HOW WE WOULD COMMUNICATE TO POST THAT TO THE PUBLIC.

I AM NOT SURE THE SCHOOL BOARD USES THIS. I THINK THAT WAS BACK IN HORSE AND BUGGY DAYS WHEN EVERYONE LIVED WITHIN THE COURTHOUSE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE WOULD SEE

THAT. >> IS OUR ELECTRONIC SIGN ON? >> IF WE LOSE INTERNET AND POWER, THAT IS PROBABLY THE BEST THING WE CAN DO, PUT IT ON THE COURTHOUSE DOOR.

THIS WILL STAY ON WITH THE GENERATOR. >> YOU HAVE TO ACCESS THE BOARD TO A COMPUTER. MAYBE WE COULD POSTED ON THE OTHER DOORS.

>> BEAR WITH ME, ONE QUESTION WAS ABOUT SETTING THE AGENDA WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THEY SAID THEY MAY PUT THIS ON THE MEETING. THE BOARD CHAIR MAY MAKE ADDITIONS AND THAT'S FINE BECAUSE SPECIAL MEETINGS AND EMERGENCY MEETINGS MAY ONLY BE CALLED BY THE BOARD CHAIR IN MATTERS THAT ARE COMMITTED TO THE ITEMS CONTAINED IN THE NOTICE OF THE MEETING, THE AGENDA SHALL BE SET BY THE BOARD CHAIR.

, LATER IN THE DOCUMENT, WE SAY, ON THE BACK PAGE RULE, 1.117 IN THE EVENT IN THE OF

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JACKSONVILLE, THEIR CHAIR MAKES THE DECISION. THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT I

HAD AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE VALUABLE TO CONSIDER. >> GETTING BACK TO YOUR NOTIFICATION I THINK THAT WAS THE MOST DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH.

IF IT WAS THAT BAD IN TERMS OF CONDITIONS, TRYING TO GET WORD TO THE INDIVIDUAL FIRE STATIONS IN A TIMELY FASHION I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS PEOPLE CAN HAVE ACCESS OR NO, MOST

LIKELY THEY WON'T KNOW UNTIL AFTER THE FACT. >> THANKFULLY, WE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEM ADDRESSING THIS HERE. IN OTHER COUNTIES, THEY HAVE HAD THINGS COME ABOUT WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THAT PERSON FROM THEIR SEAT OR TAKE POWERS AWAY.

FOR INSTANCE, I WILL USE YOU AS THE EXAMPLE MIKE BECAUSE YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF ONLY THE CHAIR CAN CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING AND YOU END UP WITH THE FRIENDS NEXT-DOOR, WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WILL DO. OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE PROVISIONS THAT THE COUNTY MANAGER WOULD PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING, BUT I JUST THINK, IT IS IMPORTANT, THAT THESE THINGS MATTER.

>> NO QUESTION. IT HAS BEEN DONE AS IT HAS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND THIS IS THE THIRD TIME THAT INFORMATION HAS BEEN FLOWING BACK AND FORTH IN THE STANDING RULES.

I THINK, THAT'S A HEALTHY THING BECAUSE WE WANT THESE TO BE LONG LIVING IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY

TO STAND UP OVER TIME. >> I THINK THAT IS WHY I WAS ADAMANT ABOUT INSERTING ROBERTS RULES. THAT MODEL HAS BEEN TESTED SINCE 1860.

THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING THAT HAS COME UP IN A PUBLIC MEETING THAT CAN'T BE RESOLVED.

LET ME JUST ADD, THE COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT AND IT STRUCK ME AS WEIRD BUT THE COUNTY MANAGER SHALL SET THE AGENDA. THE CHAIR SETS THE AGENDA.

THE CHAIR APPROVES, IN ORANGE PARK WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL, THE MAYOR SET THE AGENDA.

THE COUNTY MANAGER MAY RECOMMEND GETTING OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS BUT THE CHAIR SETS THE AGENDA AND RUNS THE MEETING. WHEN YOU SAY SET THE AGENDA, THAT IS THE PERSON THAT SETS THE

AGENDA. >> ORIGINALLY IT SAID SHALL PREPARE THE AGENDA.

>> WE DID CHANGE IT LAST TIME. I DON'T KNOW HOW. >> I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK TO PREPARE THE AGENDA, AND MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORDING TO REFLECT THE BOARD

SHARE AND FINALIZE THE AGENDA. >> HOW DO WE GET THROUGH THE ISSUE OF SUNSHINE.

IF I CALL YOU UP AND SAY I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THIS. >> THAT IS WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO

THROUGH THE COUNTY MANAGER. >> IF YOU SET THE AGENDA ALL OF THE TIME,.

>> HE CAN PREPARE IT, THEN HE CAN SURE THAT WITH ME AFTER IT HAS BEEN PUT ON THE AGENDA.

ANY COMMISSIONER CAN PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA. >> I THINK WE OUGHT TO KEEP IT

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THAT WAY. >> THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WAS ATTENDED -- INTENDED.

I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> I WANT TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE WORDING IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AND THE SECOND, THE WORD SET WAS USED TO BE LESS OF A PREPARE.

LET ME EXPLAIN. IN THE SECOND PARAGRAPH, WHEN THE AGENDA HAS BEEN SAID, IT IS IN PRODUCTION IT IS BEING PRODUCED. THE COUNTY MANAGER SHALL CAUSE THE SAME TO BE PREPARED AND POSTED. THERE WAS A REASON TO USE THE WORD SET. IT WAS STRONG LANGUAGE IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH TO SAY I SHALL PREPARE THE AGENDA, THAT WAS OUT OF BOUNDS. IT WAS SETTING THE AGENDA.

I AM SETTING THE DATE AND THE TIME, I AM GATHERING INFORMATION FROM THE BOARD MEMBERS IF THEY WANT SOMETHING PUT ON THE AGENDA. AND THEN IT DOES SAY, THE CHAIR MAY MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS AND THE OTHER THINGS. THE WORD SET WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE IT WAS LESS OF WHAT THE WORD PREPARED MEANT. HOPEFULLY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE IT. IF YOU FELT PREPARED WAS APPROPRIATE, TO ME, IT WAS LIKE I'M TELLING YOU WHAT SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA AND THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. SET O ME IT SEEMS LIKE A STRONGER WORD THAN PREPARE.

I DO THAT IN THE REVERSE. IF YOU ARE SETTING IN YOUR PUTTING IT IN PLACE.

IF YOU'RE PREPARING IT YOU ARE GETTING THINGS READY. IF YOU REFER TO ROBERTS RULE, THEY HAVE VERBIAGE THAT HAS BEEN TESTED. YOU MENTIONED THE RULES MANY TIMES AND I CAN UNDERSTAND, IF YOUR BYLAWS PROVIDE THE AUTHORITY THESE ARE BINDING AND WE DON'T HAVE FLEXIBILITY ON SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO, WHICH IS MORE COLLEGIAL THAN WHAT ROBERTS RULES ALLOW. I WOULD HATE TO SEE US GO TO SOMETHING SO FORMALIZE SO IF COMMISSIONER PITCHER TO SPEAK AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DIG THROUGH THE BOOK.

>> I THINK IF YOU SAY GUIDED BY, I THOUGHT THE WORDING WAS GOOD. >> THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE. WE FUDGE A LITTLE BIT OF THE RULES INTO OUR OWN WAY OF MANAGING THE BOARD, CERTAINLY WE BORROWED SOME OF THE TENANTS BUT WHETHER WE NEED TO ADOPT THE FULL SCOPE OF THOSE, CERTAINLY IN 2007 WHEN THEY DID THE RULES THEY DIDN'T DO THAT AND THE BOARD HAS OPERATED 14 YEARS WITHOUT IT AND WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THROUGH SOME PRETTY TOUGH

SCRAPES. >> I WOULD SAY GUIDELINES A SET OF RULES.

>> AS YOU STATED, I THINK THAT IS ADEQUATE. YOU DON'T SAY WE STRICTLY

FOLLOWED ROBERTS RULES OF ORDER. >> WE'RE OKAY. >> I DON'T KNOW WHO WROTE IT BUT

I THOUGHT IT WAS WELL-WRITTEN. >> IT IS REDUNDANT THE LAST SENTENCE IS THE SENTENCE WE USE AT THE BEGINNING. WE PROBABLY NEED TO STRIKE WHERE IT SAYS NO ACTION.

WHERE IS IT. I'M LOSING MY PLACE. SO MANY REDLINES.

THEY ARE DESIGNED TO FACILITATE TO CONSTRUCT COUNTY BUSINESS. THAT IS WHAT WE USE.

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>> WE JUST NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP A LITTLE BIT I HOPE EVERYONE SEES THAT WE ARE COMING TO A POINT, THAT THESE CAN STAND THE TEST OF TIME. WE HAVE NOT HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING, WHERE WE HAVE HAD TO DELVE INTO THAT. IN THE FUTURE YOU DON'T KNOW, CONSEQUENTLY, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THOSE, I HAVE NO QUALMS ABOUT THE FACT THAT ONCE WE COME UP WITH THE FINAL VERSION WE CAN PUT THEM ON THE WEBSITE AND PUT UP A LINK, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE NEED AND CERTAINLY PUBLISH THOSE, SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE, WE ARE CLOSING IN ON 14

YEARS. >> THE NEXT BOARD CAN DO WHAT THEY LIKE.

>> I DO WANT TO CLOSE THE LOOP ON PUBLIC ACCESS. WE DON'T USE MUNI CODE.

>> MUNI CODE IS FOR ORDINANCES. >> THAT DOES NOT COVER -- >> BEFORE WE MOVEON, WE DO NEED SOME HELP FROM WITH RESPECT TO THE EMERGENCY MEETINGS, WILL YOU GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHERE

YOU WANTED POSTED,. >> WELL I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE SEEING WHAT -- WOULD YOU SAY.

>> ANY GOVERNMENT OR COUNTY BUILDING -- THE PROBLEM IS NO ONE WILL BE WORKING IN THOSE BUILDINGS. MAYBE THEY CAN HELP US COME UP WITH THE WAY TO GET THAT

INFORMATION TO A SPECIFIC LOCATION, FIREHOUSES ARE GOOD. >> I MENTIONED THE FIRE STATION IS A POSSIBILITY BECAUSE IN A HURRICANE EMERGENCY I THINK THEY WOULD BE WORKING IF IT'S SAFE TO BE THERE. IF NOT I UNDERSTAND THAT. I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET IT OUT, HAVING THE SITUATION A LITTLE MORE AVAILABLE.

>> IT CURRENTLY READS THAT, CALLING A MEETING THAT IS REASONABLY AVAILABLE.

IS IT SOMETHING YOU WANT EVERY TIME AN EMERGENCY MEETING IS CALLED OR DO YOU WANTED ONLY IF

THERE IS NO POWER. >> I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE IT. I THINK WE MAY HAVE OTHER EMERGENCY MEETINGS THAT WE MAY NEED TO CALL THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH NATURAL

DISASTERS. >> THEN THE WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA ARE THE MOST CURRENT WAY TO GET THAT OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO LOCK US IN BUT I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE

THE AND BEAUTY OF IT AS WELL PICK. >> CAN WE PUT IN A SECTION THAT INDICATES ANY NATURAL DISASTER, WHERE NORMAL COMMUNICATIONS ARE NOT AVAILABLE --

>> I THINK THE COURTHOUSE DOOR IS AS GOOD AS ANYTHING. IF WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CANNOT GET THE WORD OUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT WORKING AND GET EMERGENCY FUNDING AUTHORIZED AND LET THE PUBLIC KNOW. WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KNOW BUT THE ABSOLUTE FALLBACK HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE COURTHOUSE DOOR.

THAT WILL GET US OFF OF THE HOOK AND KEEP THE GOVERNMENT WORKING WHEN IT IS THAT BAD.

>> I DON'T WANT US TO JUST GET WHY, WHERE WILL THEY FLOOD? >> WE CAN'T GET THE LIGHTS ON

ANYWHERE AND WE HAVE TO GET EMERGENCY STUFF GOING. >> IF WE FLOOD WHICH COULD HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE RIVER, IF YOU HAD A HURRICANE COMMAND, YOU MAY MOVE THE EMERGENCY MEETING.

I THINK IT WOULD BE OKAY, YOU WOULD NOT POSTED ON THE COURTHOUSE DOOR, NO ONE WILL BE THERE BECAUSE IT IS FLOODED. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE PROVISION FOR THE ABILITY TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. I THINK THESE AREAS ARE FAR WORSE OFF IN MATTHEW AND IRMA THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY.

THAT IS MY ONLY REASON FOR DOING THAT. I THINK THE LEGISLATION PUT THE REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC NOTICE, NOT JUST TO CHECK A BOX BUT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW SOMETHING

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WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. >> I THINK MAYBE JUST A SIMPLE STATEMENT, THE NOTIFICATION BEING THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION AND THIS WILL COVER SITUATIONS I THINK ON BOTH OF THOSE, IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO USE, DETROIT MENTIONED THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS WE CAN PUSH OUT INFORMATION THERE ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO USE THE AMERICAN BROADCAST SYSTEM.

WE ARE TRYING TO THINK OF EVERY SITUATION OUT THERE. I THINK IF WE USE THE BEST SYSTEM AVAILABLE WE CAN USE THAT , BUT AT A MINIMUM, THE MINIMUM WOULD BE A PRINTED COPY OF NOTIFICATIONS. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WOULD BE, WITH THE PUBLIC REALLY GO TO THE FIRE STATION OR NOT. WE COULD ADD THAT IF WE FELT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO GO THERE.

I THINK ON THAT, THAT THROUGH SOME OTHER CURVEBALLS OUT THERE. >> MY ONLY THING WAS, IT WAS NOT A SENSIBLE. THAT INCLUDES THE PERSON THAT PUT IT ON THERE.

SO, THE DANGER IS, IF THE ONLY REASON WE POST FOR AN EMERGENCY MEETING, WE HAVE TO DEEM IT IS AN EMERGENCY, AND IF WE GET THERE AND WE HAVEN'T DID THAT ANY ACTION WE TAKE WOULD BE ILLEGAL. DIRECTED BE WITH RESCUE SERVICES OR TREE HOLDERS OR ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE DIRECTOR DOES SO WELL IN THOSE SITUATIONS. THAT COULD BE ILLEGAL.

I WAS NOT TRYING TO COVER EVERYTHING OUT THERE, I WASN'T TRYING TO BE CHICKEN LITTLE, THE

SKY IS FALLING, WE ARE JUST AMBIGUOUS WITH THAT. >> I THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT LITTLE MORE AND COME UP WITH A SOLID GAME PLAN. I TEND TO AGREE, DEPENDING ON HOW WE ARE GAME PLANNING, WHEN THE GOVERNOR CALLED THE EXECUTIVE ORDER IN TERMS OF GETTING TOGETHER, AT THAT POINT, ALL OF THE FACILITIES WERE OPERATING AND WE WERE ABLE TO USE OTHER WAYS TO GET HOLD OF PEOPLE. WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE WORST OF THE WORST IN TERMS OF A NATURAL DISASTER. AT THAT POINT IN TIME WE WOULD BE FORTUNATE TO GET NOTICES OUT BEFORE WE FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET TOGETHER AND MEET.

>> CELL PHONES TOO. >> AND WITH THE SIZE OF OUR COUNTY, IT COULD BE A SITUATION

WHERE WE ONLY ADDRESS ONE PART OF THE COUNTY. >> AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN GIVE YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN FEED SOME INFORMATION MAYBE WE

CAN GET THE CHIEF INVOLVED AND WHAT PROBLEMS WOULD RESOLVE. >> IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, GET

WITH ME ON THE INCONSISTENCY. >> OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON. >> WERE NOT VOTING ON IT AT THIS

POINT, SO WE WILL MOVE ON. >> YOU CAN SPEAK ON IT AT THE NEXT SESSION.

OUR POLICY DOES NOT LET YOU TALK ON EACH ITEM ESPECIALLY WE ARE NOT VOTING.

WE WILL GO THROUGH HALF-DOZEN MORE THAN YOU CAN COVER ANY TOPICS.

>> WHY DOES IT HAVE AN ITEM NUMBER? >> AS YOU JUST SAW, UNDER THE

SOCIETY -- TIME CERTAIN IS THEY ALL HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> NUMBER CARD THAT I FEEL

ABOUT, NUMBER 13, I WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT. >> IN CASE YOU WERE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS UNDER TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT YOU WOULD PUT YOUR ITEM

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NUMBER. >> SO I DON'T GET TO SPEAK ON THIS?

>> NO, I DON'T DO THAT. >> IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU COMMENT

ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED. >> WE WILL MOVE ON. >> NUMBER 14,.

[14. Approval of Sole Source Purchase – Upgrade of Flush Valves to Existing High Security Stainless Steel Toilets and Replacement of Showerheads at the Jail]

>> I DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE. >> WE DO HAVE STAFF WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO PURCHASE UPGRADES TO THE SYSTEM OVER AT THE JAIL.

AS YOU RECALL, THEY CURRENTLY USE THE PRODUCTS AND THE SYSTEM, THIS IS THE INSTALLER FOR THE PRODUCT. THAT IS WHY WE ARE BRINGING THIS TO YOU.

NONE OF US ARE FANS OF THE PURCHASES, SO I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN WHAT BROUGHT US HERE TODAY. WE DID FOLLOW THE COUNTY POLICY AND STATE STATUTE AS FAR AS PURCHASING ANY REQUESTS ON OUR WEBSITE IT HAS TO BE POSTED FOR SEVEN DAYS SO THAT EXPIRES TODAY AT 10:00 A.M. THE REQUEST DID INCLUDE SOME ELECTRICAL WORK, THAT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THE FINANCE AND AUDIT MEETING. THIS IS $28,000 OF THE PROJECT, STRAPPED REQUESTED THIS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE PURCHASE BECAUSE OF COORDINATION TO USE, WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS, WE DO HAVE SOME EXPERTS HERE TO ANSWER

QUESTIONS. >> I AM THE CHIEF OF SERVICES. >> WHAT IS THE HIGH-SECURITY

FIXTURE CRACKS. >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THE SYSTEM PROVIDES, THIS IS LESS MOVING PARTS, LESS THAT CAN BE SABOTAGED BY AN INMATE. IT ALSO HAS THE ABILITY, WHICH WE DO HAVE IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN'T CONTROL THE WATER FLOW FROM THE CENTRAL LOCATION.

IF THEN INMATE IS TRYING TO FLOOD A CELLBLOCK, WE CAN REMOTELY SHUT THE WATER OFF AND

CONTROL THE WATER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> VERY EXPENSIVE VALVES, $2,500 APIECE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN, AND YOU HAVE DONE IT BEFORE, WE BACKTRACKED

TELL ME WHAT YOU WANT TO DO THAT. >> I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE, THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE INSTALLATION OF THE VALVES. WHAT I DISCOVERED, WHEN WE HAD THE 39 TOILETS INSTALLED WE WERE UNDER A TIME CRUNCH. WE HAD THE CARE ZACK MONEY WHERE TO SPEND. WE GOT THAT DONE. IT WAS DONE RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS. ON JANUARY 4, MY VERY FIRST DAY AS THE FACILITIES CHIEF I WALKED IN THE BUILDING TO FIND THE SUITES FLOODED, ONE OF THE VAULTS -- VALVES FLOODED THIS SUITE AND IT WAS ALSO DUE TO AN INMATE CONTINUING THE PUSHING THE BUTTON EVERY CHANCE HE GOT.

AT THE TIME WE DID NOT HAVE IT SET UP WHERE YOU COULD REMOTELY, WE HAVE TO GO INTO THE PIPE TO SHUT IT OFF. WE HAD TO SET UP WHERE YOU COULD ONLY FLUSH A FEW TIMES BUT OVER THE WEEKEND THEY DID IT A FEW TIMES, WE DON'T KNOW WHO IT WAS. THE PLUMBER DID AN ADEQUATE JOB,

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NOTHING AGAINST HIM, BUT THESE TOILETS ARE DIFFERENT THAN REGULAR BUILDING SPIRIT THE TOILETS ARE ON ONE SIDE OF THE WALL THE PICTURES ON THE OTHER. WE WENT WHERE THEY WERE DOING THE PROPOSAL FOR THIS PROJECT AND THEY IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED THE ISSUE AND PROVIDED THE PARTS FREE OF CHARGE. WE ALSO WANTED TO GO WITH THEM BECAUSE THEY PROVIDED A ONE YEAR WARRANTY FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES WRONG WITH THE INSULATION AND THEY EXTEND THE WARRANTY SO WE GET ANOTHER YEAR OF WARRANTY ON THE PRODUCT. WHAT THAT WILL DO, THEY WILL WORK WITH THE FOLKS THIS IS NOT CARES MONEY THIS IS COMING OUT OF OUR BUDGET.