Mar 23, 2021 BCC Agenda

[CALL TO ORDER]

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS MEETING.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAND, YOU CAN JOIN IN THE INVOCATION AND THE PLEDGE.

COMMISSIONER BURKE WILL HANDLE THE INVOCATION. >> DEAR LORD, WE ARE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO ASSEMBLE AND THIS PUBLIC PLACE AND DISCUSS MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE. THANK YOU FOR BLESSING OUR COUNTY AND THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN, SAFETY PERSONNEL, ALL OF OUR SAFETY PERSONNEL AND THOSE EMPLOYED IN THE COUNTY. WE ARE BLESSED. WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL BE WITH THOSE WHO ARE SICK OR GRIEVING THE LOSS OF LOVED ONES. THANK YOU THAT WE CAN ENJOY THE COUNTY FAIR THIS YEAR. WE PRAY YOU WATCH OVER THE VISITORS AND THOSE ATTENDING THE COUNTY FAIR. PLEASE WATCH OVER AND KEEP OUR COUNTY AND COUNTRY SAFE AND GUIDE THOSE MAKING DECISIONS. THANK YOU DEAR LORD, IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.

>> AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THE VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH IS COMING UP THIS SATURDAY AND HONOR THE VIETNAM VETERANS AND FAMILIES FOR THEIR SERVICE AND SACRIFICE.

WE DO HAVE A GROUP OF LOCAL VETERANS ATTENDING THE MEETING TODAY.

USUALLY WE HAVE A SOLO VETERAN DURING THE PLEDGE BUT TODAY WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF THEM UP, AND JOIN US IN THE FRONT. DAVID IS HERE.

DAVID IS THE POST COMMANDER FOR 1059 FOR THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA.

WE DO HAVE THE VETERANS HALL OF FAME MEMBER, AND WE HAVE THE COLONEL HERE.

WHO WILL HANDLE, THE LEAD ON THE PLEDGE? WILLOUGHBY YOU, BILL?

>> I WILL TAKE THE LEAD. WHENEVER YOU ARE READY. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> DAVID OR GARY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MENTION WHAT WE ARE DOING ON SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE

MICROPHONE. >> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR ALL OF THE SUPPORT THEY GIVE TO THE VETERANS, ESPECIALLY THE VIETNAM VETERANS. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

TAKE IT THIS COMING, WE WILL HAVE A VIETNAM VETERANS RECOGNITION CEREMONY.

IT WILL BE A NICE EVENT. IT STARTS AT 10:00 A.M. IT WILL BE HELD DOWN AT THE OLD COURTHOUSE AND THE OLD JAIL, RIGHT IN THAT AREA AT THE TAPS MONUMENT.

IF YOU GET A CHANCE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU AT 10:00 P.M. IT WILL BE A VERY NICE CEREMONY.

YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED, SOMETIMES IN TEARS. >> MAKE YOU GARY.

YOU GENTLEMEN WILL STAY WITH US BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU IN A FEW MOMENTS. WE ASK YOU TO DO DOUBLE DUTY TODAY.

HAVE A SEAT, IN A FEW MINUTES WE WILL CALL YOU BACK UP FOR THE PROCLAMATION.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, MARCH 23, 2021.

LET'S LOOK AT THE AGENDA. LET'S TAKE THE ROLL. ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT. ON YOUR AGENDA, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA WE ARE PULLING NUMBER ITEM 16 SO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT. ALSO, WE ARE DEFERRING ITEM NUMBER 26 BUT WE WILL HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING IN REGARD TO THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.

[PET ADOPTIONS]

LET'S GET RIGHT TO WHAT PETS MAY BE AVAILABLE. >> OUR FIRST DOG IS EMMA.

A SPAYED FEMALE, A LAB MIX, 11 MONTHS OLD, SHE WEIGHS 66 POUNDS.

EMMA IS A SWEET GIRL THAT LOVES TO BE AROUND HER PEOPLE. SHE KNOWS BASIC COMMANDS.

SHE LIKES CAR RIDES. WOLFGANG BAKERY AND LONG WALKS. SHE IS A VERY ENERGETIC GIRL SO SHE WILL NEED A LOT OF PLAYTIME. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HER VACCINES AND SHE IS HEART WARM NEGATIVE. THE NEXT DOG IS DIANA. A SPAYED FEMALE MIXED BREED.

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THERE IS NOT MUCH IN LIFE THAT CANCER EXCITED EXCEPT HUNTING LIZARDS.

SHE IS HOUSETRAINED AND THOSE HOUSE COMMANDS. DIANA IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HER VACCINES, MICRO CHIPPED IN HEART WARM NEGATIVE. NEXT WE HAVE TWO SISTERS AND THEY HAVE UNIQUE NAMES, ONE IS JANICE AND THE OTHER IS JOPLIN. SO, BOTH ARE SPAYED FEMALES.

DOMESTIC MEDIUM HAIR. THEY ARE FIVE MONTHS OLD. BOTH CATS ARE SHY GIRLS THAT NEED TO BUILD THEIR CONFIDENCE. THEY WILL DO BEST IN A QUIET HOME THAT UNDERSTANDS THEIR NEEDS. JANICE AND JOPLIN WOULD DO BETTER IF THEY COULD LIVE WITH EACH OTHER. BOTH CATS ARE UP TO DATE ON ALL OF THEIR AGE APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING PLEASE E-MAIL US AT CLAY ADOPTIONS CLICK COUNTY OF .COM. OR YOU CAN CALL US.

CLICK COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES HOLDS A COMMUNITY REBELS -- RABIES CLINIC EVERY FIRST OF THE MONTH. WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERING.

IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE KITTEN GREW, YOU CAN E-MAIL US. THAT IS IT FOR TODAY.

>> THANK YOU, TERESA. AS WE ALWAYS SAY, THE INPUT AT THE ANIMAL CONTROL SHELTER IS BETTER THAN THE OUTPUT. WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FAMILIES THAT WANT TO ADD TO THE FAMILY. SINCE WE BROKE OURSELVES DOWN IN TERMS OF THE PODIUM WE WILL FLIP-FLOP PROCLAMATIONS AND RESOLUTIONS SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR RESOLUTION OR AGENDA.

[1.  Vietnam Veterans Day]

THANK YOU. IT IS HARD TO TELL WITH OUR MASKS, IT IS HARD TO TELL WHO IS OUT THERE. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? COME THIS WAY.

COLONEL COME THIS WAY. HE DOES NOT BITE, SOMETIMES HE JUST NIPS.

>> I WAS A NAVY PILOT, YOU HAVE TO WATCH ME A LITTLE BIT. PRIOR TO 1975, OVER 3 MILLION AMERICANS SERVED OVERSEAS WITH BATTLES AND CONFLICTS THAT CAME TO BE KNOWN AS THE VIETNAM WAR.

WHERE'S THE VIETNAM WAR HAS DEFINED AN ENTIRE GENERATION OF AMERICANS AND WHEREAS 58,000, -- 58,318 GAVE THEIR LIVES IN COMBAT, 300,000 WOUNDED AND MORE STILL MISSING IN ACTION.

WHEREAS THE RECOGNITION OF THE NATIONAL VIETNAM WAR VETERANS DAY ON MARCH 29, THE DAY THE LAST COMBAT TROOPS DEPARTED THE VIETNAM ALLOWS THE NATION TIME TO PAY RESPECT TO THE MEN AND WOMEN HEROES, WHO SERVED DURING THIS DIFFICULT CHAPTER OF OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY.

WHERE'S WE VALUE THEIR CONTINUED SERVICE TO THE VETERANS DAY, AS THEY EMBODIED THE MODEL OF THE VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA WHICH IS NEVER AGAIN, ONE GENERATION OF VETERANS, ABANDON ANOTHER. THEREFORE LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONS, CLICK COUNTY, FLORIDA DO HEREBY SALUTE THE BRAVE VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES FOR THEIR COURAGE, SACRIFICE AND VALOR, AND PROCLAIMED MARCH 29, 2021 IS NATIONAL VIETNAM VETERANS ONE DAY AND CLAY COUNTY. IN DOING SO, PROBABLY PARTNER WITH OUR LOCAL VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA AND HOSTING THE MARCM VETERANS DAY CEREMONY AT THE TAPS MONUMENT TO GIVE PROPER RECOGNITION TO SAY WELCOME HOME TO ALL VIETNAM VETERANS.

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AND BILL HERE, IS OUR POW IN VIETNAM. HOW LONG WILL YOU OVER THERE

SIR? >> IT WAS TEN MONTHS, FIVE DAYS AND 26 MINUTES.

>> NOT THAT YOU WERE COUNTING. >> IT WAS 48 YEARS AGO THIS COMING SUNDAY, THAT I CLIMBED ON THAT FREEDOM AIRPLANE IN THE AIRPORT AND LANDED IN FREE TERRITORY, IN THE PHILIPPINES.

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I SERVED OVER BUT I DID GET OVER THERE. I AM ONE OF YOU AS WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO WE HAVE TO SIGN IT? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I'VE LEARNED FROM, A SOLDIER THAT HAD LOST BOTH OF HIS LEGS, HE ANSWERS THIS WAY, YOU ARE WORTH IT. IT IS NOT THAT WE DON'T SAY THANK YOU BUT YOU ARE WELCOME, BUT WE SAY YOU ARE WORTH IT. IT IS FOR THE FREEDOM THAT WE SERVED.

>> WE ARE ALL CERTAINLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU ALL.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. >> DO YOU WANT TO GET SOME MORE PICTURES? CAN WE GET SOME OF YOU FOLKS, COME ON THIS SIDE. COME OVER HERE WHERE YOU HAVE ROOM. THERE WE GO. THERE YOU GO.

ONCE AGAIN, NO DANCING ALLOWED HERE. MAYBE ON SATURDAY, WE CAN DO SOME DANCING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WELCOME HOME.

>> I WILL SEE YOU ON SATURDAY. >> WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IS OBSERVED.

[2.  Women's History Month]

DO YOU GUYS WANT TO COME DOWN HERE WITH US? LADIES, COME ON DOWN, WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE

PEOPLE WITH YOU. >> CERTAINLY. WE ARE DISTRICT FOUR, WE COME FROM A -- SEVERAL CLUBS AND WE PETITION SEVERAL COUNTIES FOR PROCLAMATIONS, FOR THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE RIGHT FOR WOMEN TO VOTE, THE 19TH AMENDMENT.

AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THIS DONE FOR YEARS. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IT IS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH. IT IS STILL ASTOUNDING, THAT WOMEN COULD NOT VOTE UNTIL 100 YEARS AGO. THE WAY WE DO IT, WE VOTE NOW. IT TOOK A LONG TIME FOR US TO VOTE. THAT WAS THE ORIGIN OF OUR PETITION TO GET PROCLAMATIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE. >> WHEREAS THE FIRST WOMAN SUFFRAGE AMENDMENT WAS INTRODUCED TO CONGRESS AND BUT WAS RATIFIED IN 1920.

WHERE'S THE 19TH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION WAS CERTIFIED ON AUGUST 26, 1920, GUARANTEEING 26 MILLION AMERICAN WOMEN THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND WAS THE CULMINATION OF A DECADES LONG MOVEMENT FOR WOMEN'S SUFFRAGE AT STATE AND NATIONAL LEVELS. AND WHEREAS WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH IS A CELEBRATION OF WOMEN'S ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO HISTORY, CULTURE AND SOCIETY AND HAS BEEN OBSERVED ANNUALLY IN THE MONTH OF MARCH SINCE BEING DECIMATED BY CONGRESS IN 1987. AND WHERE IS THE GENERAL FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS FOUNDED IN 1890, IS INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO

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THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLICK COUNTY, FLORIDA DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MARCY MONTH IN CLAY COUNTY AND IN SO DOING RECOGNIZE THE GENERAL FEDERATION OF WOMEN'S CLUBS UNWAVERING, DEDICATED TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF ALL PEOPLE AND ENCOURAGES CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS TO STUDY, OBSERVE AND CELEBRATE THE VITAL ROLE OF WOMEN IN AMERICAN HISTORY. DULY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY, FLORIDA THIS 23RD DAY OF MARCH 2021.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? ALL IN FAVOR? >> AYE.

>> VERY GOOD. >> WE ARE GOOD. WE WANT TO TAKE SOME PICTURES.

[3.  Water Conservation Month]

>> OUR LAST PROCLAMATION FOR THIS AFTERNOON IS IN OBSERVATION OF WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.

I HAVE ASKED ONE OF OUR OTHER ELECTED BOARDS TO JOIN US AS CLICK COUNTY SOIL AND WATER BOARD, IF THE MEMBERS WOULD CARE TO JOIN US DOWN FRONT, WE WILL GET RISKS -- RICHARD RUSSELL AND

THE TIER TWO INTRODUCE THE REST OF THE BOARD. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE WITH US. GENTLEMEN, I HEARD THERE WAS A THREAT THAT SOMEONE WOULD WEAR SHORTS BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE WORE THEIR LONG PANTS. YOU STOPPED THEM AT THE DOOR.

RICHARD, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THE BOARD? >> WE ARE THE CLAY COUNTY WATER'S BOARD WE ARE VOLUNTEER OFFICIALS AND WE TRY TO TAKE CARE OF CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND HELP HILDRED WITH OUR RESOURCES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE WORK WITH THE STATE AND THE NATIONAL LEVELS -- ON A NATIONAL LEVEL TO DO CONSERVATION NO MATTER WHAT.

NEXT TO ME IS RICHARD DARBY. , TED CLARK, AND WES TAYLOR. THE OTHER GUY HAD IMPORTANT BUSINESS, WHAT IS HIS LAST NAME? I'M KIDDING, MIKE CASSIDY. WE HAVE ANOTHER NAME FOR HIM BUT

I WILL NOT GO INTO THAT. >> ALRIGHT, WHEREAS 90% OF FLORIDA'S DRINKING WATER IS SUPPLIED BY UNDERLYING AQUIFERS AND THAT ECONOMY RELIES ON AN AVAILABLE SUPPLY OF WATER TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT. ALL WATER USERS INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND AGRICULTURAL, INSTITUTIONAL, PRIVATE CITIZENS, AND OTHERS CAN MAKE POSITIVE CONTRIBUTIONS TO REDUCE WATER USE AND PROTECT LORD'S WATER RESOURCES. WHEREAS IN 1937 THE LEGISLATION ENACTED CHAPTER 582, FLORIDA STATUTES, ESTABLISHING A STATE AND LOCAL PARTNERSHIP, WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT SOIL AND WATER RESOURCES AND ASSIST PRIVATE LAND OWNERS, AND WHEREAS THE CLAY SOIL AND WATER DISTRICT WAS FORMED, ON OCTOBER 24, 1929 WITH THE MISSION OF ENSURING A QUALITY AND URBAN ENVIRONMENT FOR PROTECTION, RESTORATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE SOIL, WATER AND NATIONAL RESOURCES. THEREFORE RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR CONSERVATION GROUP CAMPAIGN SUCH AS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH AND WHERE AS THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS DESIGNATED APRIL, TYPICALLY A DRY MONTH WHEN WATER DEMANDS ARE HIGH AS FLORIDA'S WATER CONSERVATION MONTH TO EDUCATE CITIZENS ABOUT HOW THEY CAN SAVE FLORIDA'S PRECIOUS WATER RESOURCES. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, CLAY COUNTY FLORIDA, DO HEREBY COMPLAINT -- PROCLAIM APRIL 21 AS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH AND IN DOING SO SUPPORT THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CLAY SOIL AND WATER

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>> VERY GOOD. GENTLEMEN, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND YOU WORKING WITH US ON WATER CONSERVATION. YOU GUYS SEEM TO HAVE A DECENT MEETING.

I MAY DROP IN ON ONE. >> WE ARE BACK ON TRACK AND WE THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME IN FOR

[PRESENTATIONS]

ECONOMIC PARTNERS. MR. WALLACE, PLEASE COME DOWN. >> GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE.

>> CAN HEAR ME NOW? I WANT TO SAY IT WAS A PLEASURE COMING IN FEBRUARY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT. I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAVE HAD WITH THE REST OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE REFERRED SIX PROJECTS TO THE BOARD. THE FIRST ONE IS PROJECT JUMBO.

IT IS AN AEROSPACE COMPANY TO ESTABLISH A COMPONENT AND MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS.

JJ AND HIS TEAM HAS PROVIDED US WITH INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO THAT PROSPECT AND THIS SITE IS IN CONSIDERATION. T ALSO ON THE SECOND PROJECT, THIS IS A PLASTIC BAG MANUFACTURING, WITH NEW OPERATIONS HERE IN NORTHEAST FLORIDA.

PROVIDED, -- I WILL LET JJ TALK ABOUT THE ASSETS THEY HAVE LOOKED AT AND WHETHER IT FITS.

THE THIRD PROJECT IS PROJECT STRONG WHICH IS THE MEDICAL DEVICE, REMANUFACTURING LOOKING TO RELOCATE IN CONNECTICUT. I WILL LET JJ TALK ABOUT THAT ONE AS WELL.

AND THE BACK OFFICE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER THAT IS IN THE AREA AS WELL.

TWO PROJECTS, AND HAS BEEN A GOOD DAY. A HOT DAY.

THIS IS A MANUFACTURING OF BUILDING PRODUCTS. JJ HAS SPECIFICS ON THAT.

ONE THAT REALLY CAME IN LAST WEEK, AND IT CAUGHT US BY SURPRISE, WE ARE TRYING TO PLAY HARD FOR THE REGION. WE ARE TRYING TO FIND MOST -- MULTIPLE SITES THAT WILL ALLOW US TO RESPOND. NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE HAVE BEEN BUSY PROVIDING PROJECTS TO

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>> IS THIS AN UNUSUALLY STRONG MARKET OR IS IT NORMAL. PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT OUR REGION. FROM A LABOR FORCE STANDPOINT, IF THEY CAN GET THE LABOR THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. THEY CAN OPERATE HERE CHEAPER THAN OTHER PLACES.

WHEN THEY LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION LOGISTICS FROM A DISTRIBUTION ASPECT, WE CAN REACH 94 MILLION PEOPLE FROM RIGHT HERE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT, DISTRIBUTION FROM AN INTERNATIONAL ASPECT, YOU HAVE THIS CLOSE BY. WHEN YOU HAVE THE FREEWAY, PEOPLE LOOK AT THAT.

WE ARE SEEING GREAT OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE, THE SUPPLY CHAIN IS HERE.

>> MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, WE HAVE THE BELTWAY, WE HAVE EXPANSION, ARE ANY OF THOSE MORE

PROMINENT QUACKS. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT LOGISTICS DISTRIBUTION, ALL OF THAT COMES TOGETHER. THIS IS ALL HEAVY FOR US. THE ABILITY TOO, AND SOME PARTS OF THE REGION, WHERE THIS CROSS, THAT IS A GREAT PLUS FOR US. HAVING THE HEADQUARTERS HERE IS A PLUS. THEN WE TRY TO DO DISTRIBUTION UP AND DOWN THE STATE.

THAT IS A HUGE PLUS FOR US. ALSO THE PORT, THEY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH VOLUSIA COUNTY SO, AGAIN, NOT BEING LANDLOCKED TO ONE OF OUR COMPETITORS TO THE NORTH OF US.

THEY ARE HAVING LABOR DISTRIBUTIONS, THOSE ARE POSITIVE THINGS FOR THE REGION AS A WHOLE. SO, US WORKING TOGETHER, WORKING WITH JJ, WITH THE TEAM, THIS BODES WELL FOR JACKSONVILLE IN THE FUTURE. PEOPLE ARE RECOGNIZING US CONSISTENTLY CONSISTENTLY RING OFF OF THE HOOK.

>> VERY GOOD. >> COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU. SO OF THE 11 PROJECT RESPONSES, WE COULD NOT SUBMIT ON TWO OF THEM. THE LABS ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, THE BUILDING IS THERE BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AVAILABLE.

BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING, SO THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW, THE INVESTMENTS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU ARE CONNECTING AND THE EXPRESSWAY, ALL OF THAT ADDS UP.

WE COME IN, PUSHING THE SHOVEL READY SITES AND MARKING THE EXISTING SITES MAKING GREAT PROGRESS WITH YOUR HELP. EVERYTHING IS MOVING ALONG. YOU WILL SEE SOMETHING MOVING BY THE END OF APRIL. THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS AT 4%. WE CAN SEE IT POCKETED INTO THE BOXES. ALL OF THE REAL ESTATE DATA, IF YOU ARE LISTING YOUR HOUSE IT WILL SELL QUICKLY AND 20% PREMIUM ABOVE THE LIST PRICE. THAT IS PRETTY GOOD FOR THE MARKET. I WILL USE FLEMING ISLAND. THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE IS $340,000 NOW. WHEN YOU SEE THE PACKET OF INFORMATION, YOU HAVE THE LIST THAT IS PRETTY LONG. IT IS IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW. INKS ARE REALLY GOOD IN THE REAL ESTATE MARKET. WHEN YOU BUY A NEW HOUSE, IT IS TYPICALLY CURTAINS AND FURNITURE AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BOUGHT. IT CAN REALLY STIMULATE THE ECONOMY. WHEN YOU GO INTO THE NEW BUILDING, THERE ARE BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED FOR JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. SO, WE ARE UP OVER 76 HOMES OVER LAST YEAR. THINGS ARE STILL GOING GOOD. THE ECONOMY IS STRONG.

THE INVESTMENTS YOU ARE MAKING AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO MAKE WITH THE PARTNERS ONCE WE GET THE MERE BODES WELL FOR THE SUPPORT FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SO THANK YOU.

>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR JJ AT THIS TIME QUACKS. >> THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN TODAY AND WE APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.

[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> WE WILL MOVE AHEAD TO THE APPROVAL OF MEETINGS FROM THE MARCH 9 MEETING.

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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS QUACKS. >> WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY GENTOO. THE MOTION CARRIES.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

>> I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF CARDS. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU FILL THOSE OUT PRIOR TO GETTING TO THE PODIUM TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD. IF YOU NEED THOSE, THEY ARE RIGHT AT THE END OF THE HALLWAY. YOU CAN TURN THEM INTO THE BAILIFF AND SHE WILL PASS THEM ON AND WE WILL CALL YOU UP. FRANK CLARK. GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS FRANK CLARK, I REPRESENT ABOUT CLARK, 75-YEAR-OLD FAMILY-OWNED AND OPERATED BUSINESS.

WE ARE THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF THIS IN FLORIDA. WE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST PROVIDERS OF SERVICES, AND THAT UNITED STATES. MY PURPOSE FOR SPEAKING THIS MORNING, IS TO REQUEST THE BOARD POOL AND ITEM RECOMMENDATION OF AWARD FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND TABLE THIS FOR FURTHER REVIEW, BY THE STAFF AND COMMISSIONERS.

THE BASIS OF MY REQUEST IS THAT OUR PROPOSAL IS $41,352 LOWER AND OVER THE POTENTIAL FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, OUR PROPOSAL WILL SAVE THE COUNTY OVER $200,000. NOT ONLY WAS OUR BASE PROPOSAL SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER, WE ARE ALSO THE LOW BIDDER ON EVERY UNIT SERVICE ITEM SHOULD THE COUNTY NEED ADDITIONAL SERVICES AS WELL. YET, WE WERE ONLY GIVEN 43 OF THE 45-POINT SCORING FOR THIS SECTION, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE LOWER ACROSS THE BOARD.

THE SCORING OF THE RFP IN TOTAL WAS A VIRTUAL TIE, ONLY 1.3. SPREAD BETWEEN BOTH COMPANIES PROPOSALS AND THE TOTAL SCORING. IF WE AWARDED THOSE TWO POINTS, DUE TO THE LOWER PRICING, WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE HIGHEST POINT SCHEDULE. BEFORE AWARDING THE CONTRACT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER, WHICH WILL COST FOR COUNTY TAXPAYERS $200,000 OVER THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT, I WANT TO GET MORE FACTS ON THE LEGITIMACY OF THE 15 POINTS AWARDED TO CONTROL SERVICES FOR A LOCAL BUSINESS PREFERECE. THE LOCAL BUSINESS PREFERENCE IS ONLY POSSIBLE IF THE BUSINESS MAINTAINS A PERMANENT PLACE OF BUSINESS IN AND WITHIN CLAY COUNTY. MOSQUITO CONTROL SERVICES EMPLOYEE SIMPLY USE THE COUNTIES CONTROL BUILDING. THAT CANNOT BE THE PERMANENT PLACE OF BUSINESS BECAUSE IT IS THE COUNTY'S PERMANENT PLACE BUSINESS. WITHOUT THOSE 15 POINTS THAT THEY WERE GIVEN FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE, THE PROPOSAL AND COUNT WOULD BE 13 POINTS BEHIND OUR PROPOSAL. SO, I REQUEST THAT YOU PULLED THAT AGENDA ITEM, TABLE IT, AND HAVE A FURTHER REVIEW, AND CONSIDER AWARDING IT TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.

BOTH COMPANIES ARE QUALITY COMPANIES BUT WE SAVED THE COUNTY OVER $200,000 OVER THE

LIFE OF THE AGREEMENT. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU MR. CLARK, I APPRECIATE IT. THAT IS NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> IT IS IN FINANCE. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD DONE THE FINANCE AUDIT.

ALSO, I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER CARD I HAVE IS FROM JOHN O'CONNOR.

JOHN, WHERE ARE YOU. COME ON DOWN. >> THANK YOU.

JOHN O'CONNOR, SUITE 28. I AM HERE FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO

ANNOUNCE THAT ON APRIL 2, THE THEATER WILL OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. >> VERY GOOD.

>> IT HAS NOT BEEN MADE PUBLIC SO YOU ARE THE FIRST TO HEAR IT. HELP US SELL OUT THE THEATER AND COMPLEMENT AMC ON THEIR EFFORTS. THE SECOND THING, I AM IN THE PROCESS OF PERMITTING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE LISTENING, MY LAST PROJECT ON FLEMING ISLAND.

WE ARE DEVELOPING OUR LAST LOT IT IS A 10,000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING, 5,000 SQUARE FEET.

RETAIL ON THE FIRST LEVEL IN THE SECOND LEVEL IS A 5,000 SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE FOR MYSELF.

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WITH THAT BEING SAID, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU JOHN.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE KNOWS BUT MR. O'CONNOR HELP ME GET INTO BUSINESS YEARS AGO.

NO BANK WOULD TALK TO ME AS A NEWLY GRADUATED STUDENT HE HAS BEEN MY SECOND OR THIRD THAT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I TRULY APPRECIATE YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE TO OUR COUNTY. I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT BE HERE IF IT WERE NOT FOR YOU.

>> JOHN, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB. WE APPRECIATE IT EVERY TIME YOU COME IN. WE APPRECIATE IT AND ALL OF THE SERVICE YOU GAVE TO THE COUNTY

AS WELL. >> JUST LIKE I SAID I HOPE YOU GET OAKLEAF DONE QUICKER THAN 30

YEARS. >> MY PARTNERS HOPE SO TOO. WE WILL MAKE A LOT HAPPEN AND YOU WILL SEE A LOT COMING THIS FOLLOWING YEAR. WE DO HAVE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY GETTING READY TO START& THIS SUMMER. WE ALSO HAVE, 867 TOWNHOME UNIT GETTING READY TO START. A SHOPPING CENTER AND A CAR WASH.

WE ARE BRINGING THOSE ITEMS, IT IS JUST TAKING TIME TO GET STARTED.

WE WILL GET IT DONE. >> YOU ARE DEFINITELY ONE OF THE GOOD GUYS.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. >> THANK YOU JOHN, WE APPRECIATE IT AND THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD

NEWS ON THE THEATER. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE THE DESIRE TO TALK TO THE BOARD DURING OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, IF NOT WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT AND MOVED TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD REVISIT THE MOSQUITO CONTROL CONTRACT THAT MR. CLARK, I APPRECIATE HIM DRIVING APPEARED TODAY AND SPEAKING TO US.

HE PROVIDED THIS AND WE DID NOT HAVE IT IN FINANCE AUDIT LAST TUESDAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL, WITHOUT THE MOSQUITO CONTROL CONTRACT.

>> THAT IS NUMBER TWO IN THE FINANCE. >> CORRECT.

>> WE WILL PULL NUMBER TWO FROM THE FINANCE AND AUDIT AND DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE OTHER ITEMS OR ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DESIRE TO PULL QUACKS.

>> MOVED TO APPROVAL FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCEPT THE MOSQUITO CONTROL.

>> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION CARRIES

[10.  Finance and Audit Committee Minutes March 16, 2021]

5-0. >> LET'S RECAP ON THE SECOND ITEM MOSQUITO CONTROL PROGRAM AND SERVICES OF FLORIDA LLC. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK TO US ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR

ITEM? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS ITEM WAS PRESENTED AT THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE. THIS IS THE CONTRACT FOR MOSQUITO AND CONTROL SERVICES.

WE EXCEEDED OUR TWO ONE-YEAR RENEWAL SO WE PUT THIS BACK OUT TO BID FOR PURCHASING POLICIES.

THIS IS THE RFP SO PRICE WAS NOT THE ONLY FACTOR. THE PROPOSALS EXPERIENCE AND REFERENCES WAS A CRITERIA APPEAR PERSONNEL EXPERIENCE AND TECHNICAL APPROACH, PRICING, AND OF COURSE OUR LOCAL PREFERENCE FOR THE PURCHASING POLICY. WAS CRITERIA USING THE EVALUATION, WE HAVE THREE STAFF MEMBERS EVALUATE THIS WHICH WE NORMALLY DO FOR RFPS THAT WAS

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I DID MISS THE COMMENTS MADE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YEAR AS WELL. MOSQUITO CONTROL SERVICES, LYCÉE FACILITY AT OUR PUBLIC WORKS LOCATION. THEY HAVE LEAST THAT EVER SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE COUNTY. UNDER OUR POLICY, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CLAIM THAT.

THEY DO HAVE STAFF THAT LIVE IN CLAY COUNTY THAT WORK AT THAT LOCATION.

>> SO, THEY ARE IN THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE A PERMANENT LOCATION QUACKS.

>> YES. >> I AM ALL FOR THAT. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS FOR KAREN QUACKS. >> WHERE THEY OFFERED THAT LEASE BECAUSE THEY GOT THE CONTRACT

QUACKS. >> IT WAS PART OF THE BID PACKAGE.

>> WAS A PART OF THE BID PACKAGE THIS TIME QUACKS. >> COMPANIES DO BID TO EXERCISE

THAT OPTION. >> I AM JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL $200,000 THAT IT WILL

COST THE COUNTY OVER FIVE YEARS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. >> TELL ME ABOUT HOW THIS LEASE WORKS QUACKS IF THE OTHER GUY GET THE CONTRACT WILL THEY BE ABLE TO LEASE THE PROPERTY AND

GO IN THERE QUACKS. >> AND UTILIZE THE SPACE QUACKS. >> THAT WAS PART OF THE RFP

QUACKS. >> S. THE PRICE SHEET ALLOWED THEM TO BID ON SERVICES AND A PRICE THAT WOULD OFFSET THEIR FEE FOR THE RENTAL.

>> WHOEVER WON THIS CONTRACT WOULD QUALIFY AS A RESIDENT. >> ONCE WE HAVE BEEN THERE ONE

YEAR. >> IT GIVES THEM AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE WOULD YOU SAY THAT

QUACKS. >> THEY DO GET THE BENEFIT OF THAT.

>> THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF FIRST YEAR END AFTER THAT, -- IS IT MANDATORY QUACKS.

>> WHEN WE STARTED OUTSOURCING THIS, WE HAD THE SPACE. WE WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO BE HERE IN THE COUNTY. THEY DO CUSTOMER SERVICE. THEY TAKE THE CALLS AND ADDRESS

THOSE. >> HAVING A LOCATION HERE IS IMPORTANT.

THAT IS WHY WE OFFER THAT. BOTH COMPANIES ARE GREAT, BUT BOTH THE COMMON AREA.

>> IF IT WAS PART OF THE BID PACKAGE, HE WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

HOW MANY POINTS DID HE GET QUACKS. >> OUR POLICY ALLOWS THEM TO

HAVE FIVE POINTS FOR LOCATION. >> SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE HIGHEST, HAD THEY NOT HAD THE OTHER POINTS. THEY SCORED THE HIGHEST, IN TWO OF THE CATEGORIES FOR LOCAL

PREFERENCE. >> I THINK, AS THE COMMISSIONER INDICATED, THE QUESTION IS, IF IT IS THAT CLOSE, AND CERTAINLY THE CASE GOOD BE MADE, THAT BEING A LOCAL COMPANY, AT SOME POINT IT WOULD BE EQUAL BECAUSE THE OTHER COMPANY SAID THEY WOULD BECOME A LOCAL COMPANY IF THEY GOT THE CONTRACT. SO, THE $41,000 PER YEAR, IS THERE SOMETHING WE ARE MISSING

IN TERMS OF SERVICES IN TERMS OF THE COST QUACKS. >> I WILL LET ANNIE REFER TO

THAT. >> I AM THE EXTENSION DIRECTOR. THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMENTS REGARDING THE DIFFERENCE IN SCORING WAS AROUND CUSTOMER SERVICE.

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WE HAVE CUT DOWN ON THE COMPLAINTS PRIOR TO THAT. ALSO, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION AROUND, MAY BE SOME INFORMATION PROVIDED OUTSIDE OF THE RFP.

THERE WERE REQUESTED MATERIAS AND BACKUP DOCUMENTS FOR WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF THE INFORMATION WAS USED TO INFLUENCE THE SUBMISSION AND

PRICING. >> I GUESS, I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> THE INFORMATION REQUESTED WAS OUR MANY MILES OF STRAIN, THE LEVELS OF PESTICIDE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THE INFORMATION IN THE RFP, KAREN CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS, SHOULD BE THE ONLY INFORMATION UTILIZED TO SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSAL. THE COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION WAS USED TO REALLY SPECIFY IN CLARK'S PROPOSAL THE NUMBER OF MILES THEY WERE SPRAYED AND MORE TO COME UP WITH THEIR PRICING

VERSUS JUST THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE RFP. >> THAT IS NOT TRUE WITH THE CURRENT PROVIDER. THE CURRENT PROVIDER KNOWS HOW MANY MILES -- IT SHOULD BE

PROVIDED TO ALL BIDDERS. >> CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT KAREN QUACKS.

>> THAT IS TRUE, THEY DID REQUEST THREE YEARS OF PRIOR INFORMATION.

>> AGAIN, THE 1-800 NUMBER, THIS COMPANY HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE SAME AS THAT COMPANY, IF THEY WERE TO GET THE BID PACKAGE, I THINK THEY COULD ACCOMMODATE, AND I WOULD ASK, CAN WE ASPECT TO BE PART OF THE CASE IF THEY WILL SAVE THEM MONEY.

>> WE KNOW WHAT ONE COMPANY HAS DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE WORKED FOR US FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. BUT IN TERMS OF CLARK ENVIRONMENTAL, DID WE TALK TO OR GET ANY INDICATION FROM CUSTOMER CUSTOMERS THAT THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER COUNTIES OR

MUNICIPALITIES QUACKS. >> THE REFERENCES COLLECTED BY THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, ALTHOUGH BOTH COMPANIES HAD EXCELLENT REFERENCES, SOME OF THE SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE COMPANIES THAT PROVIDED REFERENCES WERE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OPERATING THEY WERE DOING ONE PIECE OR THE OTHER BUT STILL EXCELLENT REFERENCES FROM BOTH OF THOSE.

BUT NOT NECESSARILY, THAT IS COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. WE COULD NOT SAY THEY DID THE

EXACT PROGRAMS. >> WHEN YOU SAVE ONE CASE OR THE OTHER WHERE THEY NOT DOING BOTH? DID WE GET A FEEL AS TO WHAT THEIR PROGRAM IS. WE KNOW WHAT IT IS WITH.

>> I WOULD SAY BOTH COMPANIES HAD A VERY CLOSE DELIVERABLE AS FAR AS THEIR TECHNICAL APPROACH, THEIR LEVEL OF EXPERTISE. SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS DID COME IN WITH THE COMPARABLE PROJECTS ON THE REFERENCES AT THE CONCERNS AROUND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE, AND HOW THAT WOULD WORK

FOR CLAY COUNTY. >> I KNOW, AND I CAN SPEAK FOR THE COMMISSIONER, WHEN I FIRST STARTED, MOSQUITO CONTROL WAS A MESS. THERE WAS REGULAR COMPLAINTS THAT I WOULD SAY, SINCE WE MADE THE CHANGE, I GAVE VERY LITTLE, IF ANY, MOST CALLS ARE COMPLEMENTARY. THEY COME OUT THEY WATCH OUT FOR THE BEEKEEPERS.

THEY PUT THE LARVA SIDE IN. I THINK THEY HAVE IT UNDER CONTROL.

AND I THINK COMMISSIONER, YOU WOULD AGREE. IN THE YEARS PAST IT HAS BEEN A

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LOT BETTER. >> IT IS FIXED NOW. IT IS A LOT BETTER.

I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RESIDENCY STIPULATION. THAT DOES NOT SOUND FAIR.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN CLAY COUNTY TO SET UP OFFICES, IF IT WAS TRULY SOMEONE THAT WOULD SET UP AN OFFICE AND YOU WOULD CHARGE ME MORE MONEY I WOULD NOT CARE BECAUSE THE MONEY WOULD STAY IN CLAY COUNTY AND WE WOULD HAVE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO YOU.

THE WAY THIS THING IS SET WITH THE LEASE, IT DOESN'T FEEL GOOD. WE ARE GIVING THE OTHER GUYS A BREAK, AND THAT SEEMS LIKE THOSE ARE THE DETERMINING WAY TO GET POINTS.

THE PEOPLE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THEM, BUT THE RULES ARE THE RULES I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AS FAR AS THE RESIDENCE.

THAT IS MY OWN HEALING. >> WHAT IS THE CURRENT CONTRACT EXPIRATION DATE?

>> AT THE END OF THE MONTH, MARCH 31. AND IT IS MOSQUITO SEASON.

>> I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND, THERE SEEMS TO BE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND I WAS GOING TO ASK MAYBE THE COUNTY MANAGER TAKE A LOOK AT EVERYTHING, WHOLE ENCHILADA AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD. HOWEVER THE CONSTANT TRACK

EXPIRES, MARCH 31, THAT IS A PROBLEM. >> I HATE TO GO BACKWARDS IN OUR

PROGRAM. IS THIS A TWO-YEAR DEAL? >> IT IS ONE WEEK.

>> I THINK IT IS AN INITIAL THREE YEAR CONTRACT. >> WE MEET ON THE SIXTH OR THE

13TH, SO IT IS, TO EXPECT. >> IT IS JUST $200,000 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY.

>> I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE LEGAL PROCESS. WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE DATE. THE $200,000 DOES BOTHER ME A LITTLE BIT.

>> IT IS NOT JUST THE RESIDENCY, IT IS THE OTHER COMPANY, THE OTHER BIDDER WAS NOT CONSIDERED, WITH THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION AND THE THINGS LIKE THAT, WITH THE CURRENT

PROVIDER WHO HAS ALL OF IT. >> THEY WERE GIVEN THAT -- >> THEY BOTH HAVE DIED.

THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND I DON'T THINK IT AFFECTED THE SCORING.

>> I MISUNDERSTOOD, I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT AFFECTED THE SCORING.

>> BASICALLY BOTH OF THE CONTRACTS ARE IN THE RFP. >> COURTNEY, WHERE DO WE STAND?

>> WENT KAREN AND I WERE MENTIONING, I KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CONTRACT EXTENSION. BUT YOU COULD MOVE IT TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.

>> I LIKED THE PRESENTATION IDEA. IT GIVES UP THE TO GO BACK AND LOOK T THE INFORMATION, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE 200,000, WE DO HAVE MR. CLARK'S PEOPLE TELL ME THEY WILL HANDLE CUSTOMER SERVICE, WILL THAT BE OUT OF ORLANDO? IF IT IS 1800 I WOULD PREFER A LOCAL NUMBER WHICH WE HAVE NOW, AND WE CAN GET IT TAKEN CARE OF.

I THINK, A PRESENTATION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IF EVERYONE AGREES IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO OTHER DETAILS AND DOING FOR THOSE PEOPLE AND ANSWER QUESTIONS, FACE-TO-FACE AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD

WORK WITH YOU ALL? >> IF I COULD JUST ADD, IT WOULD BE FIVE YEARS IF YOU HAD THE

TWO-YEAR EXTENSION. >> IT IS STILL MORE THAN THE AMOUNT, AND WE WILL GET THE BRIEFS AND ANY OTHER DETAILS THE BOARD DESIRES TO HAVE. THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COULD BE ASKED, IS IT A 1800 NUMBER. HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE WORKING AND LIVING IN CLAY COUNTY. THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, THAT BENEFIT THE ECONOMY.

>> IF EVERYONE AGREES THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE IT. I WILL NOT PUT MR. CLARK ON THE SPOT. I THINK IT WOULD BE UNFAIR FOR THE CURRENT MOSQUITO CONTROL TO

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>> I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE EXTEND THE CURRENT CONTRACT AND THEN ASK BOTH BIDDERS TO

PRESENT AT THE APRIL 13 MEETING. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION, APRIL 15, PULLED UP ANOTHER COMPANY IN TODAY'S IS A LOT TO ASK.

I RECOMMEND WE CHANGE IT UNTIL APRIL 30. >> I AM OKAY WITH THAT.

>> THIS IS NOT JUST MOSQUITOES. THIS IS A HEALTH CONCERN AS WELL.

THAT IS THE ISSUE. NO ONE WILL GET SICK HERE. MOSQUITOES CARRY A LOT OF

ILLNESSES. >> WAS NOW, YOU CAN GO DOWN THE LIST.

>> WE CAN EXTEND THAT THROUGH THE END OF THE MONTH. >> AS LONG AS THEY ARE WILLING

TO, YES. >> HOPEFULLY THEY ARE. I KNOW HOW CHARMING YOU CAN BE.

>> THANK YOU. HOWEVER, HE WILL B ON TASK TO DO THAT. >> A QUICK REMINDER THAT THERE IS THE NO CONTACT RULE IN PLACE. THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN SPEAK TO THEM ARE THE PURCHASING

DEPARTMENT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION OF THE SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE WILL DO OUR PRESENTATIONS AND

ASK QUESTIONS ON APRIL 13. ENKE APPEARED. >> LET ME GET BACK TO THE AGENDA

FOR TODAY. >> IS TIME TO DO THE TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT WE WILL GO TO

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>> WE HAVE ITEM 2324-VOLT -- WE HAVE ITEM 23 AND 24 AND THEY BOTH NEED TO BE VOTED ON SEPARATELY. WE HAVE JENNIFER WHO WILL BE PRESENTING ON HALF OF -- ON

BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER. >> MY NAME IS JENNIFER AND WITH THE FIRM AND I'M ON -- I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF JACKSONVILLE KB HOME. WE FILED FOR PETITION ALONG WITH PREFILED TESTIMONY FROM THREE PEOPLE, THE PETITIONER, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT, DAVID TAYLOR, WILL BE THE DISTRICT AND PROJECT ENGINEER JIM. WHO PROVIDED THE STATEMENT FOR CAUSE PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 190, WHO IS HERE TONIGHT IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY ANCILLARY QUESTIONS THAT WERE NOT ANSWERED. TEACUP WANTED TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

THE PURPOSE IS TO CONSIDER THE ESTABLISHMENT, NOT TO US CONSIDER DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS.

THE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE THOSE POWERS. INTEREST SOLELY WITH THE COUNTY.

THE FIRST LIGHT IS WHAT IS A CDD. A CDD IS A SPECIAL UNIT PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT. THEY ARE CREATED PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 190 WHICH IS WHY WE ARE HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. CDD PROVIDE LONG-TERM, STABLE ENTITY FOR ONGOING AND ENHANCE COMMUNITY SERVICES WITHIN A DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO ADOPT ZONING, LAND USE OR PLANNING IT IS REQUIRED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PLAN IS ALSO SUBJECT TO ALL OF THE SAME TYPES OF GOVERNMENTAL REGULATIONS THAT U.S. COUNTY COMMISSIONERS HAVE BIG IT HAS TO BE PUBLIC MEETINGS DONE IN THE SUNSHINE CONSISTENT WITH PUBLIC RECORDS, AND POSTING BUDGETS THIS TALKS ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS BRICK YOU WILL SEE A MAP OF THE GENERAL LOCATION. IT IS PROPOSED TO BE APPROXIMATELY ONE OF 64 ACRES, LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF RUSSELL ROAD AND SAND ROAD.

IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED TO BE 344 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS. THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS.

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THERE WILL ALSO BE MASTER OF LANDSCAPE AND IMPROVEMENTS AND A MASTER RECREATIONAL IMPROVEMENT, STORMWATER PONDS AND UTILITIES. ADVANTAGES OF THE PROPOSED DISTRICT, FIRST IT IS THE ALTERNATIVE TO BANK FINANCING. AS A UNIT OF GOVERNMENT, JUST LIKE A COUNTY COMMISSION THE DISTRICT HAS ACCESS TO THE TAX-EXEMPT BOND MARKET. WHAT THAT MEANS FOR END-USERS, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REDUCED COST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THE OTHER BENEFIT TO HOMEOWNERS, AND TO THE ALTERNATIVE TO TRADITIONAL BANK FINANCING THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PUBLIC DISPOSERS THAT GO INTO IT RATHER THAN PRIVATE MORTGAGE, NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR.

THE ASSESSMENTS ARE ONGOING AND RESIDENTS ONLY PAID THE ASSESSMENTS FOR THE TIME THEY LIVE IN THEIR HOME. THE OTHER BIG BENEFIT WE SAW DURING THE MARKET DOWNTURN, THE DISTRICT HAS THE ABILITY TO COLLECT ASSESSMENTS ON THE TAX ROLL.

THAT MEANS THE ABILITY TO COLLECT TAXES AND HAVE AN ONGOING REVENUE STREAM RATHER THAN CHASE FOLKS WITH MORTGAGE FORECLOSURES AND THE LIKE, AND IN THE DOWNTURN, THE CDD'S CAME OUT OF THE MARKET BETTER WITH ENHANCED SERVICES, ONGOING LANDSCAPING, AMENITIES STILL RUNNING FOR MUCH EASIER ACCESS TO GET OUT OF THE DOWNTURN. FROM THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTABILITY STANDPOINT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND AN HOA IS THAT RESIDENTS END UP BECOMING THE BOARD MEMBERS. THEY GET TO RUN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.

EVERYTHING IS DONE IN THE SUNSHINE. THERE'S ALSO THE TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS BY PRODUCING BUDGETS FOR REVIEW. IT IS LOOKED AT BY THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND FOLKS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE GETTING INTO WHEN THEY PURCHASE WITH A CDD.

I'VE SPOKEN A LOT ABOUT THE BENEFITS TO HOMEOWNERS ALREADY. A LOT OF IT COMES DOWN TO INCREASE ACCOUNTABILITY AND KNOW WHAT YOU ARE PURCHASING. ONE OF THE BIG BENEFITS IS THE FACT THAT IF I OWN MY HOME FOR THREE YEARS I'M ONLY PAYING FOR THE ENHANCED BENEFIT FOR THREE YEARS WHEN I SELL MY HOME THE PERSON BEHIND ME IS PAYING AND THAT IS BETTER THAN PAYING UP FRONT. BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY. WE ALWAYS LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNTY THE DEBT OF THE DISTRICT CAN NEVER BECOME THE DEBT AND MRE OF THE COUNTY.

IT IS NOT PROVIDED FOR IN FEDERAL OR STATE LAW, THAT IS SOMETHING WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW. THE DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THE DISTRICT IS ONLY THE DEBT OF THE DISTRICT. IT CAN ONLY BE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT.

AGAIN PROTECTIONS FOR THE COUNTY. WE HAVE DISCLOSURES.

THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATIVE COST TO CLAY COUNTY. WE PAY FOR THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PETITION BEFORE YOU AND THE STAFF TIME REVIEW AND ALL OF THE ASSESSMENTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE DISCLOSED IN THE TITLE AND IN THE HOMEOWNERS PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT.

IN SUMMARY I HOPE I HAVE REVIEWED THE BENEFITS. HOPEFULLY THE TESTIMONY ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS IN CHAPTER 190. WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD OF

COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE FOR US. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS? >> DO YOU HAVE ANY LAW OR CASE LAW THAT PERMEATES AS CDD THAT

HAS FAILED, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT DOES FAIL? >> THE DOWNTURN WE SAW SOME FAIL. THERE IS NO PROVISION YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY. I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT HAPPENS AT A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS OR HOA'S, AND THE DOWNTURN PEOPLE NOT PAYING THEIR ASSESSMENT.

YOU HAVE BONDHOLDERS THAT HAD A FINANCIAL STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CAME IN AND CONTINUED TO POUR MONEY INTO THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITIES, AND LANDSCAPING.

RESIDENTS NEVER SAW A DIP IN SERVICE WHEREAS COMMUNITIES THAT WERE RUN BY HOA'S OR DEVELOPERS, YOU LITERALLY SAW THE LIGHTS TURNED OFF I THOUGHT AMENITIES THAT WORD DILAPIDATED, ROADWAYS CAVING IN, STORMWATER PONDS THAT WERE NOT MAINTAINED. WOULD CDD YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE BONDHOLDERS SOLD RECOURSES THE PROPERTY. IF THE PROPERTY FILLS THE ENTIRE PROJECT FAILS. IN TERMS OF FAILURE, I DON'T HAVE A CASE OF FAILURE.

THERE IS ONE CD THAT FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY WHERE THEY ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH BANKRUPTCY

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>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> ALL RIGHTS. JENNIFER, WE WILL GO THROUGH PUBLIC HEARING. IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WE WILL REACH OUT TO

YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? IT IS SPECIFICALLY, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CDD DISTRICT AND THE ANNABELLE ISLAND DISTRICT. I SEE NONE I HEAR NONE AND I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION COLLECT IF NOT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

I MOVED TO APPROVE THE REQUEST. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND? >> I HAVE OF MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, IT CARRIES 5-0 WE

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DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? >> NOTHING FURTHER UNLESS YOU

HAVE QUESTIONS. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? EITHER FOR STAFF OR ATTORNEY BELINSKY. IF NOT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IT IS NOW OPEN ON ITEM NUMBER 24.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ON THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE? IF NOT, WE WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD THE BOARD. DO WE HAVE A MOTION?

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. >> TURN YOUR MICROPHONE ON. >> THERE IS A CUT OUT IN THIS LAND MAP. YOUR DECLARATION IS THAT ALL OF THE PARTIES ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS IN THE CUTOUT.

>> IT IS ON RUSSELL ROAD. >> SO, THAT IS JUST A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS STUFF ALONG RUSSELL?

>> I'M SORRY, I CANNOT SEE IT. >> THAT IS RUSSELL ROAD. THAT PIECE.

>> THAT WAS THE LAND OWNER WHO WAS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T WANT TO SELL.

I THINK THERE'S A HOUSE OR TWO OF THE PROPERTIES. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE THE

RESIDENCE PROPERTIES. >> I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER I MISSED IT.

HOW MANY HOMES YOU EXPECT TO BUILD ON THERE. THERE IS NO ACCESS THERE, I

DON'T THINK. >> ARE YOU TALKING WITHIN THIS WALL?

>> THAT FINGER THAT GOES DOWN, I DO NOT SEE ANY STORM ACCOMMODATIONS.

>> THERE IS A STORM WATER POND, I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS VISIBLE ON THIS MAP.

>> IN ADDITION TO THE PONDS, IS THERE ANY OTHER DRAINAGE ACCOMMODATION.

>> ARGUED TALKING ABOUT THE ROADWAY ITSELF? >> THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE ARE PONDS ALL ALONG THE ROAD. THERE ARE PIPES.

THE PONDS WILL DISCHARGE TO THIS FLOW WAY. THERE IS A SYSTEM.

THE POND IS DESIGNED TO MIMIC PRE-DEVELOP MEANT AND CONTROL. >> THERE IS A REFERENCE TO THIS

AREA. >> IF YOU LOOK ON THE MAP, THERE IS A LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THE UPPER HALF OF IT. I BELIEVE THAT IS A FUTURE MASTER-PLANNED ROADWAY.

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>> IT IS NOT ANNOTATED. I AM GUESSING. I DON'T LIKE TO GUESS.

>> THAT IS WHERE THAT IS. WE ARE BUILDING HALF OF IT AND DEDICATING THE REST TO THE

COUNTY. >> THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS, IT IS

CUSTOMARY FOR THE PLANNER TO THINK ONE THING. >> I'M NOT ONE 100% SURE.

>> IS THAT OUR STANDARD QUIRKS 24 FEET WITH MIAMI CURB SIDEWALKS?

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND

PERIOD ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> THE ROADWAYS USED TO BE 20 FEET. WE CHANGED IT SO YOU COULD HAVE A PARKED CAR ON BOTH SIDES.

>> IT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. >> WE DID NOT HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD.

>> I THOUGHT WE HAD A MOTION, I APOLOGIZE. I AM FLEXIBLE.

SO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ONCE AGAIN ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE, THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

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>> LET'S GO TO ITEM NUMBER 25 WHICH IS THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE TRANSMITTAL OF AMENDMENT TO THE U LAND USE POLICY. -- FLORIDA LAND USE POLICY.

>> THERE ARE TWO CHANGES THE FIRST ONE IS POLICY ONE POINT FOR POINT AID IN ADDRESSES THE TERM INSTITUTIONAL SO VIEW BETWEEN COMMERIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL YOU ARE DESIGNATED AS INFILL. INSTITUTION WOULD BE A HEAVY USE.

THE SECOND IS A LITTLE MORE OF AN EXPLANATION. THE WAY THE POLICY IS WRITTEN, WE ARE TRYING TO EXEMPT EXISTING PARCELS WHICH WERE MORE LAND USES.

AGAIN, WHAT THIS SAYS, YOU CAN EXPAND YOUR COMMERCIAL DEPOT WITHIN A STRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT WHAT WE HAVE IS, WHAT SHOWS ON THE NEXT PAGE, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL LAND USE IN THESE PARCELS AND IT IS A SCREWY POLICY FOR THOSE PARCELS THAT HAVE TWO LANE USE.

THEY ARE NOT COMMENT. WE HAVE SEEN OTHER PROPOSALS WHERE THIS IS A PROBLEM BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO LET THEM UNIFY THE PROPOSAL. IF I COULD GO TO THE LAST SLIDE.

THE LANGUAGE SIMPLY SAYS, SINGLE PARCELS AND ONE THAT IS COMMERCIAL.

WHAT WE ARE SAYING, IF YOU HAVE TEN -- TRACK TO LAND USES YOU CAN UNIFY IT.

IT JUST CLEANS UP THE POLICY. WITH THAT, THE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

>> QUESTIONS? >> NON. ED, STAND BY, WE WILL DO PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN FOR ITEM NUMBER 25.

IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. I SEE NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE

PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> I MOVE APPROVAL.

THERE IS A PARCEL IN MY DISTRICT RIGHT NOW THAT HAS THREE DIFFERENT DESIGNATIONS AND IT

MAKES NO SENSE. I WOULD MOVE WE APPROVE THIS. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> WE DO HAVE A SECOND PERIOD ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? IN THAT CASE, WOULD THAT TAKE

CARE OF THE ISSUE. >> THEY STILL HAVE TO GET A PLAN.

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>> RIGHT NOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PURSUE IT, BASED ON THE WEIGHT THE POLICY WAS WRITTEN. SO, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.

>> DO THEY HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE LEFT? >> WE WILL CALL THE VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE IT CARRIES 5-0. >> THE EXISTING SITE IS HERE.

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>> WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> APRIL 27 I'M SORRY.

GOOD CATCH. LET'S OPEN THE HEARING. WE HAVE NO ACTION ON THIS BUT WE

CAN HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ABOUT IT. >> IT IS NIGHTTIME THERE WE ARE

NOT SEEN ANYTHING. >> THERE WE GO PICK. WE HAVE IT ON ALL OF THE MONITORS. NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN TODAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

UNLESS SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ABOUT IT, WE WOULD DEFINITELY LISTEN.

THIS ITEM WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL APRIL 27. >> YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SINCE THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT I GOT QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK BECAUSE THEY DID NOT COME TODAY.

>> I GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON IT TOO. SO, THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE.

I MEAN, 8400 HOMES. NO ONE KNOWS WHO WILL LIVE THERE.

THIS IS NOT ON ANYONE'S RADAR. INFRASTRUCTURE IS A REAL CONCERN.

IT CAME UP OUT OF THE BLUE. NOISE IS A CONCERN. THIS IS PROBABLY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. IT IS IN THEIR FLIGHT PATTERN. IT'S NOT JUST THE PRACTICE

ACTIVITIES. >> FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE A MEETING ON FRIDAY.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS. CAMP LANDING IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE AND WE ARE STILL TRYING TO WORK OUT WITH THE DEVELOPER.

>> I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR

QUESTIONS. >> DOES CAMP LANDING HAVE A CODE FOR THE FIELD?

>> THE CONCERNED WITH THE PARCEL IS, THEY HAVE TWO LINES FOR NOISE.

ONE IS THE OUTER ONE. ONE IS THE 200-POUND ORDINANCE. THAT IS THE BONE OF CONTENTION, WE HAVE NARROWED WITHIN THE LINE IN THE DEVELOPMENT THERE. OUTSIDE OF THE LINE, THE SECOND LINE IS THE 200 POUNDS ORDINANCE AND WE CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE APPLICANT WITH THESE CONCERNS. WE THINK WE HAVE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT IS TEMPORARY TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. WE DO HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM AND THE DEVELOPER ON FRIDAY.

BUT AGAIN, OTHER CONCERNS SUCH AS THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT I CALLED THAT THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT CONTINUED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH WE DID HEAR IT WASN'T ON THE RADAR. THIS WAS IN 2005. THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN CALLED THE BLACK DR I IT WAS KIND OF OUT THERE OBVIOUSLY THE MARKET WENT SOUTH IN THE LATE 2,000 AND THEY SAT ON IT IS COMING BACK REPACKAGE. THERE ARE NO MORE BECAUSE THE

PLANNING COMMITTEE LAND USE. >> CONSIDERABLY MORE HOMES. >> HE HAS MORE HOMES THAN WERE

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PROPOSED BEFORE. >> SO, WHEN IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE EARLY 2,000'S, WAS THE LAND

USE CHANGE BACK? >> IT WAS NEVER APPROVED. IT WAS NEVER APPROVED BY THE COUNTY. IT WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF REVIEW AND THEN THE MARKET WENT SOUTH.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> THIS IS THE SECOND READING FOR THE AMPHITHEATER IN THE BSC

[27.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to Amend the Land Development Code to Add Amphitheaters as a Permitted Use in BSC Zoning (PC voted 5-1 to approve) (District 3, Commissioner Renninger) (E. Lehman)]

THEY WANT UP AMPHITHEATER IN THE MALL. THEY WANT TO BE ADDED TO BSC ZONING. IT REQUIRES A MASTER PLAN. THIS PROPOSED CHANGE SINCE THE APPLICANT REPRESENTS THE AMPHITHEATER, CAN BE CHANGED IF THE BOARD ALLOWS FOR THAT EMPATHY. THERE IS THE SITE, WE NOTICE IT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MALL IN THE GRASSY AREA. THE CLOSEST, RESIDENTIAL'S ARE THESE APARTMENTS.

THE APPLICANT STATED THEY WILL FACE BOTH SOUND AWAY FROM THE APARTMENTS AND HERE IS A RENDITION OF THE AMPHITHEATER. AGAIN STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS A PERMITTED USE IN BSC ZONING THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED 5-1 TO RCOMMEND APPROVAL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? I KNOW WE DISCUSSED A LOT ABOUT IT LAST TIME.

NO QUESTION AT THIS TIME. WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THE AMPHITHEATER AT THE ORANGE PARK MALL THIS TIME? DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE

BOARD? >> MY QUESTION IS WHAT ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW, HOW MUCH WILL THAT

INCREASE? >> IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED. THERE WILL BE ENOUGH SEATS THAT IT WILL BE SMALL, ATTRACTIVE MALL PATRONS, THERE WILL BE CONCERTS THERE, BUT IT IS NOT

ANTICIPATED BIG TRAFFIC GENERATOR. >> WHAT KIND OF ATTENDANCE?

>> I CANNOT SAY. >> UNFORTUNATELY -- >> IT IS OPEN-AIR SO THERE WOULD NOT BE A MAXIMUM, ONLY THE PEOPLE CAN FIT IN THERE. THEIR BIGGEST, WHAT THEY SAID THEIR BIGGEST DRAW IS THE FREEDOM FUN FEST WHICH THEY ALREADY DO AT THE MALL.

THIS IS JUST A PLACE TO ACCOMMODATE IT. THEY DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY

INCREASE FROM THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> THEY HAVE DONE THAT FOR 25 YEARS. AT THIS POINT, NO PROBLEMS THAT WE KNOW OF LOOKING BACK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. THIS MOVES IT AND PUTS IT INTO A MORE PERMANENT FACILITY THAN WHAT THEY USUALLY PUT UP. IT FACES THE OPPOSITE WAY, ACTUALLY FACED TOWARDS THE APARTMENTS. THIS WILL FACE A WAY. THE CONCERTS, WILL BE THAT BIG WON AND THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER BIG WON BUT MOST OF THE EVENTS WILL BE LOCAL COMMUNITY EVENTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE QUESTIONS? WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.

I WILL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> I SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0.

>> I BELIEVE THAT COMPLETES THE TIME CERTAIN'S SO WE WILL GO BACK TO THE SPECIFICS OF THE AGENDA AND GO TO ITEM NUMBER 11 WHICH IS THE UPDATE FROM AGING TRUE.

[11.  Aging True Update - Teresa Barton]

TERESA BARTON, PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. AS YOU KNOW, I AM TERRY BARTON, I AM THE CEO OF AGING TRUE. I BROUGHT ALONG WITH ME SOMEONE WHO IS THE -- SHEET OPERATES THE CENTER FOR US. WE ARE, THIS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGING YEAR FOR US AND FOR EVERYONE. WE HAVE CONTINUED TO PROVIDE MEALS THROUGH THE SENIOR SITTER -- RACKS CENTER OPERATIONS AND LIMITED SERVICES. WE WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER ON A PLAN PHASED IN BASIS TO OPERATE THE SENIOR CENTERS AGAIN AND EVENTUALLY BACK TO FULL

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WE HAVE 650 COUNTY PARTICIPANTS REGISTERED TO THE VARIOUS CENTERS.

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, INVITE THEM TO COME IF THEY WOULD CHOOSE TO FOR A HOT LUNCH AT THE CENTER AND SOCIALIZATION ON A LIMITED BASIS, OBSERVING ALL OF THE COVID REQUIREMENTS, SOCIAL DISTANCING, WEARING A FACE COVERING. WE HAVE ALREADY SET UP THE HAND SANITIZING STATIONS. IT WOULD BE ON A REGISTER, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PREREGISTER SO WE KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE TO EXPECT ON A DAILY BASIS. NO SENIOR WILL BE COMING MORE THAN TWO DAYS PER WEEK TO BEGIN WITH. WE WOULD LIKE TO ATTEMPT THAT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE FIFTH OF APRIL. IF THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO

CONSIDER THAT. ARE THERE QUESTIONS? >> SO, I PROBABLY HAVE THE LARGEST IN MY DISTRICT, KEYSTONE HEIGHTS AND IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY BUSINESS.

I WATCH THEM LINEUP FROM -- MY WINDOW. MY QUESTION IS, WHY SO LOW OF A CAPACITY. THEY ARE DYING TO GET BACK TOGETHER.

>> WELL, WE WANT TO SEE WHAT THE DEMAND IS. WE WANT TO SEND OUT TO EVERY REGISTERED PARTICIPANT, THE INVITATION AND SEE THE DEMAND. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN BEGIN TO.

BUT WE HAVE TO RESPECT, WE ARE NOT ASKING PEOPLE TO DISCLOSE THEIR STATUS WHETHER THEY ARE VACCINATED OR NOT. IN THE BEGINNING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROPERLY SOCIAL DISTANCING. WE DID TALK ABOUT HAVING A DAY, OR A WEEK WHERE WE WOULD CALL IT VACCINATION DAY. IF YOU HAVE YOUR CARD, THAT YOU HAVE BEEN FULLY VACCINATED, YOU CAN COME AND WE CAN HAVE BIGGER PARTICIPATION ON THAT DAY. MAYBE UP TO 40 PEOPLE THAT COULD COME ON THAT ONE DAY IF THEY ARE VACCINATED. I DON'T WANT TO BE IN CONFLICT WITH HR PPA OR REQUIRING PEOPLE TO DISCLOSE THEIR STATUS. WE COULD HAVE ONE DAY FOR THE VACCINATED PARTICIPANTS. I WILL TELL YOU AS WE KNOW, THE GRAB AND GO MEALS HAVE BEEN POPULAR. THERE ARE A LOT OF SENIORS WHO REALLY LIKED THAT IDEA.

WE WILL NOT DO A WAY WITH THAT. WE ANTICIPATE FOR MAYBE AS LONG AS ANOTHER YEAR, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPTION OF TAKING THEIR FOOD HOME AND OR HAVING IT IN THE CENTER.

WE WANT TO PHASE AND THE OTHERS. WE DON'T WANT TO JUST DO THE FEEDING.

WE WANT THEM TO HELP US FIGURE OUT WHICH ACTIVITY THEY WANT TO START AND WHAT BASIS.

WE ARE DOING THAT AS WELL. >> I HAVE NOT SEEN THIS REACTIVATION PLAN AND I AM OKAY WITH 20%. I AM MORE CONCERNED ABOUT ONE 100% AND WHAT DATE IS THAT.

I AM NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FEEDING PART. THE SOCIALIZATION IS EVEN MORE

IMPORTANT. >> I AGREE. >> IT DEPENDS A LOT ON HOW THE STATISTICS GO AND HOW WELL PEOPLE, IF WE ARE AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE ARE NOW WITH GETTING VACCINATION OUT. I WOULD ANTICIPATE BY LATE SUMMER WE CAN BEGIN TO INVITE PEOPLE BACK. BUT, THAT IS ALL CONTINGENT ON CDC AND WHAT HAPPENS NATIONALLY AND WHERE WE ARE AT. WE ARE IN A MINI SPIKE RIGHT NOW, AND WE ARE SORT OF DANCING AROUND. I AM HOPEFUL THAT, IT IS TEMPORARY.

I FEEL LIKE WITH COVID IT IS ONE STEP FORWARD AND ONE STEP BACK. WE ARE AS ANXIOUS AS WE COULD

POSSIBLY BE, TO REALLY GET SENIORS BACK AND ENGAGED AGAIN. >> HAPPILY FIGURED OUT THE

TRANSPORTATION ISSUE? HOW DO WE GET THEM IN? >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE -- THE GOOD NEWS IS, WE DID NOT SPEND A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS LAST YEAR.

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THE CENTER, AT LEAST THROUGH THE END OF THIS BUDGET CYCLE. >> ARE THE BUS ROUTES STOPPING AT THE CENTER NOW? SO THAT WE HAVE THE SAME CAPABILITIES WE HAD BEFORE WAX.

>> THEY ARE NOT DOING DOOR TO DOOR. THAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST ISSUE.

A LOT OF THE SENIORS CANNOT GET TO THE DESIGNATED BUS STOPS. >> PICKUPS.

>> YOU ARE HELPING TO PROVIDE OUR TRANSPORTATION FOR COVID VACCINES.

THEY HAVE TO REGISTER FOR THAT, THEN YOU MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THEM PRIVATELY?

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> YES, WE ARE DOING THAT. >> I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER, I AM A PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TYPE OF GIRL, I FEEL LIKE THEY WILL COME, IF

THAT IS -- >> THEY COME FOR THE MEALS. >> I KNOW.

THEY ARE OUTSIDE TALKING TO EACH OTHER, INTERACTING CLOSE TOGETHER.

IT IS A MATTER IF THEY ARE INSIDE OR STANDING OUTSIDE IN THE STREET WHERE THEY COULD GET

HIT BY A CAR. >> UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE THIS LOVELY CENTER.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM BE PART OF IT. >> MR. CHAIR.

>> IN THE -- IT IS REALLY IN THE DETAIL. THE PLAN WAS SIMPLE, PUT UP 20%.

OPERATE FROM 9-1:00 P.M. BY APPOINTMENT ONLY. AN INSURED THERE WAS TWO DAYS PER WEEK, I WAS SENIORS, OF OUR COMMUNITY, COULD GO AND MINGLE. I, LIKE ANYONE, EVERYONE IS CRAVING HUMAN CONTACT OUT THERE. IT IS MORE THAN JUST GETTING A MEAL.

IT IS THE OPPORTUNITIES AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY HAVE. WE COULDN'T EVEN, WHEN WE BRAINSTORMED THIS WE COULD NOT COME UP WHEN WE WOULD GET TO ONE 100%.

WE WERE JUST TRYING TO START THIS OFF. I ASKED TERRY TO COME BRIEFED THE BOARD TO MAKE SURE YOU FELT COMFORTABLE THAT WE HAD A CONSENSUS THAT IT WAS OKAY TO DO THIS. WE ALSO DID INCLUDE HEATHER IN OUR CONVERSATIONS.

I DO NOT WANT TO STEAL HEATHER'S THUNDER BUT WE ARE 60% FOR AGES 65 AND OLDER.

WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE METRICS WITH REGARD TO HOSPITLIZATIONS, THE POSITIVITY RATE.

THERE IS A SLIGHT INCREASE IN POSITIVITY, THIS WILL COME UP IN HEATHER'S BRIEFING RIGHT HERE.

WE DID TRY TO BREATHE IT AND BASE IT ON DATA. THE DATA THAT WE HAD TO HELP OUT THE COMMUNITY. AS WE PROGRESS WITH THIS MY INTENTION WOULD BE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD TO INCREASE IT AT A HIGHER AMOUNT FROM 20% IN ANY CHANGES FROM THERE.

BUT REALLY, THERE WERE NO DETAILS ON IT. >> LET ME, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL CHANGE ANYTHING THAT I COULD PLAN.

THERE IS NO NEW VIRUS FEAR THERE ARE VARIANTS OUT THERE BUT NO NEW CHELATION FOR THOSE.

I DO NOT SEE WHY WE COULD NOT COME UP WITH A MORE DETAILED PLAN TO COME BACK TO NORMALCY.

WE CAN CHANGE A PLAN. I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE A PLAN TO GET BACK TO OPERATION INSIDE OF THE ADULT, ADULT CENTERS AND GET BACK TO NORMALCY. I DO NOT SEE WHAT WE ARE WAITING

FOR. WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? >> MAKING SURE WE CAN MAINTAIN

-- >> EVERY BUSINESS ON THIS PLANET IS ACCOMMODATING.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. >> THINK ABOUT IT AS A RESTAURANT.

>> YOU CAN DO THAT. I THINK THERE COULD BE A BETTER PLAN THAN 20%.

TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS MY OPINION. >> NONE OF US ARE EXPERTS HERE SITTING ON THIS PANEL IN TERMS OF COVID. I THINK HEATHER HAS HAD HER INPUT. SHE IS OKAY WITH THIS. I DON'T THINK IT IS A PROBLEM FOR US TO DIP OUR TOES IN THE WATER AND MOVE ALONG SLOWLY BUT SURELY AND THEN WRAP IT UP.

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I THINK WE ALL AGREED THAT WE NEED TO START. >> I THINK 20% ARE LOW.

RESTAURANTS ARE AT 50%. A RESTAURANT EVEN LIMITED. RESTAURANTS ARE NOT EVEN LIMITED. IF WE TAKE FOR-5 MONTHS, WE ARE TAKING AWAY, SHE SAID IT IS

THROUGH AUGUST, MAYBE BY LATE SUMMER. >> DEPENDING ON WHAT IS HAPPENING. (OFF MICROPHONE).

BEAUFORT. >> IT WILL BE HARD FOR US TO RESTART AGAIN.

THIS IS WHY WE WANT TO HAVE A PHASED REPROACH TO REOPENING. >> WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR.

60% OF THE POPULATION OF SENIORS, THE PEOPLE WHO WILL USE THE FACILITY ART VACCINATED.

EVERYONE AT THIS POINT THAT IS A SENIOR WANTS TO GET VACCINATED AND IS VACCINATED.

WE WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT GET VACCINATED AT SOME POINT AND THAT IS PRIMARILY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK WE SHOULD RAMP UP FAST.

>> AGAIN, IT IS UP TO HEATHER. >> IF WE ARE DIRECTED TO DO THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO OPEN THE CENTER.

IF THERE IS A POSITIVE, WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE IT DOWN, KEEP IT CLOSE IT CLOSE.

>> WE WILL HAVE THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE DO. THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE GETTING

VACCINATED HAVE DONE IT. >> BUT OUR CHANCES WILL INCREASE THE MORE PEOPLE WE HAVE AT ONE TIME THE MORE LIKELIHOOD WE WILL HAVE A POSITIVE AND WE WILL HAVE TO CLOSE.

>> KNOWING THAT, IF THE COMMISSION IS WILLING TO GIVE US THE GO-AHEAD TO OPEN AT ONE 100% TOMORROW I AM WILLING TO DO THAT. I JUST NEED YOUR SUPPORT.

>> WHAT DOES OUR EXPERT HAVE TO SAY. >> WE DID HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. I WILL LOOK AT THE SCIENCE AND THE DATA.

THE GOAL WITH VACCINATIONS IS NEVER TO GET 20 CASES. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

THE VACCINES WE HAVE ARE ONLY 95% EFFECTIVE, PFIZER OR MODERNA AND THE LESS THAT'S RIGHT AND LEFT FOR THE OTHERS. COVID IS HERE TO STAY. WE WILL HAVE CASES.

WHAT WE ARE HOPING WITH THE VACCINE AND WHAT HAS BEEN PROVEN WITH THE RESEARCH IS IT REDUCES THE DEATH RATE AND MORTALITY RATE, SEVERE ILLNESS MEANING ICUS.

SO, COVID IS HERE TO STAY. I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF APPROACHES WE CAN TAKE.

ONE IS STARTING AT 20% AND GIVING THEM A BILL FOR THAT. MY OPINION IS, IT IS JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR IT. HAVING THAT APPROACH WITH THE DINING PART, IF THEY ARE SITTING DOWN AND EATING THEY DO NOT HAVE A MASK ON IT ALL. WE ARE AT 62% AS OF THIS MORNING FOR 65 AND OLDER. WE ARE TRUDGING ALONG TO GET THE NUMBER WHERE WE NEED IT TO BE.

SO, AGAIN, COVID, I THINK PEOPLE THINK THERE IS A MAGIC DATE WE WILL NOT HAVE IT ANYMORE.

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AROUND FOR YEARS. COVID IS HERE TO STAY. >> I GUESS, WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TOO, IS THE DAY IT IS TREATED LIKE THE FLU WHICH HAS A HIGHER DEATH RATE THAN COVID.

>> IT IS MORE COMMUTABLE THAN THE FLU. TO GIVE YOU THE COMMUNAL BILL IT HE AND THE REPRODUCTIVE RATE. THE FLU IS 1-1, IF I GET THE FLU I WILL GIVE IT TO ONE OF THE PERSON. IF I GET COVID I WILL GIVE IT TO THREE OR MORE PEOPLE, IT IS MORE

CONTAGIOUS. >> FOR YEARS AND FOREVER, MOST PEOPLE WILL NOT WEAR A MASKS AND STAY FAR APART WE ARE HUMANS AND WE INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER. I WATCH THESE PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY, WHEN I SIT AT MY DESK, THEY ARE INTERACTING WITH EACH OTHER.

THEY ARE ALSO TAKING THEIR MEALS FROM US IN GOING TO OTHER PLACES.

THERE ARE TWO OTHER SENIOR CITIZEN PLACES THAT HAVE OPENED IN MY AREA.

>> AGAIN, I DO NOT MAKE POLICY DECISIONS I AM HERE TO PROVIDE THE SCIENCE.

I AM SAYING COVID IS HERE TO STAY. WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET TO 0.

WE WILL NEVER BE AT 20% OR ONE 100% FOR ME TOO SAY YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A COVID CASE IN ANY PATIENT OR RESIDENT TO COME TO THE SENIOR CENTER. I CAN PROVIDE THAT DATA TO YOU.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR LIABILITY IS OR THE RESPONSIBILITY.

BUT I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, I WAS IN FAVOR WITH THE COMMISSIONER.

>> I WANT TO MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT. I HEARD 20% ON APRIL 5.

MAYBE HIGHER AT THE END OF THE SUMMER AND AT THE END OF THE WEEK.

I WOULD SEE -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORE ROBUST PLAN FOR REACTIVATION OF THE SENIOR CENTERS AND CENTER. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT IN PRINT. I KNOW YOU DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OF THE ELEMENTS THAT GO INTO THE EQUATION. WE WILL DEAL WITH THEM WHEN WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM. BUT GIVEN THE SCIENCE. GIVEN THE TASK.

GIVEN THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON THESE ELDERLY PEOPLE, I THINK, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A MORE ROBUST

PLAN, MAYBE 20% AND WE WILL PLAY IT BY EAR FROM THERE. >> WE CAN PROJECT ONE 100% BY

MAY 1. >> WITH THE SCIENCE, WITH ALL OF THE THINGS OUR BRAINS HAVE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN AND I CAN BROADCAST IT TO MY CONSTITUENTS INSTEAD OF

SAYING, IT COULD BE. >> AND IF YOU HAVE ONE CASE, WILL THAT NECESSARILY SHUCKED

THE PROGRAM DOWN? >> IT WILL SHUT THE CENTER DOWN. >> WHY?

>> THE PROTOCOL SAY YOU -- WHEN YOU HAVE A POSITIVE, YOU HAVE TO GO IN AND DO THE CLEANING AGAIN.

>> WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE A POSITIVE GOING FORWARD. >> WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE STATE GUIDELINES WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN. IT SAYS IF YOU HAVE A POSITIVE

-- IF YOU TELL ME TOO OPEN TOMORROW? >> WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR

GUIDELINES, DIFFERENT FROM HER? >> THE GUIDELINES WE HAVE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STATEWIDE BUT

THEY COME FROM CDC, AND WHO EVER IS IN CHARGE. >> MAYBE THAT IS WHERE WE SHOULD

LOOK, WHERE THE GUIDELINES COME FROM. >> THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.

(OFF MICROPHONE). >> I HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY OTHER DIRECTIVE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER. I AM HAPPY, AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS COMMISSION, IF YOU CHOOSE

FOR US TO OPEN THE CENTERS TOMORROW, I AM HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> I THINK YOU'RE CONFUSING SOMETHING. WE ARE NOT TELLING YOU ANYTHING. WE ARE ASKING FOR A PLAN.

I DON'T HAVE A PLAN. I JUST WANT TO PLAN. >> WE CAN DO THAT.

>> AT THIS POINT, SHE IS COMING BACK WITH THE PLAN AND WE CANNOT SEE IT UNTIL APRIL 13, SHE WILL

BE DELAYED EIGHT DAYS FROM OPENING AT 20%. >> THE POINT WAS SO THEY COULD ADVERTISE IT WILL BE OPEN AND FOR THIS TO START FROM THE BEGINNING.

>> MAY I SUGGEST WE LET THEM OPEN WITH 20% AND THEN CHECK IN WITH US ON THE 13TH FOR A

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WITH? >> IF WE WAIT FOR A PLAN, WE ARE NOT GOING TO OPEN UNTIL THE

13TH. >> EVERYONE AGREES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM OPEN APRIL 5 AND LET THEM GO AHEAD WITH THEIR 20% THEN EIGHT DAYS LATER MEET AND DISCUSS THE PLAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLAN BEFORE THAT, SO WE CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION AND GO FORWARD.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK WITH EVERYONE HAS FAR AS FOLLOWING SCIENCE PROTOCOLS.

(OFF MICROPHONE). >> WE WERE PLANNING, AND THE PLAN YOU HAD NOT SEEN, ONE THING WE WILL INSIST FOR THE PEOPLE COMING IS THAT THEY DO A TEMPERATURE CHECK.

I AM ONLY POINTING THIS OUT BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE ISSUES, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW OUR PLAN IS THAT IF SOMEONE HAS A TEMPERATURE OF OVER 100, THEY WILL BE SENT HOME, THEY CANNOT

PARTICIATE. THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD BE

AN ISSUE, IF IT IS PART OF THE PLAN. >> IT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT I WAS THINKING. THERE ARE PLENTY OF PRECAUTIONS YOU CAN TAKE.

YOU CAN POST THE SIGNS AT MULTIPLE BUSINESSES. YOU SEE THEM EVERYWHERE.

IF YOU FEEL SICK, TEMPERATURE CHECK, WHATEVER IT IS, TO MAKE YOU AND THE STAFF FEEL BETTER.

YOU CAN DO IT THAT WAY. >> OKAY. >> IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT?

>> I THINK GOING FORWARD, THIS WILL BE A MAJOR ISSUE, HOW WE OPEN.

I GUESS I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS, IT IS NEVER GOING AWAY.

WE JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT, AND AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID, I WILL NOT WEAR A MASK FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. IF YOU GET HIT BY A METEORITE, YOU WILL BE DEAD TOO.

>> YOU MADE JUST BE THE FIRST ONE. >> YOU ARE ON THE CUTTING EDGE.

>> WE ARE THE TEST CASE. >> WE HAVE TO FACE THIS WITH OUR POLICE.

CAP EVERY BUSINESS HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WILL OPEN AGAIN. >> WE HAVE NEVER HAD A MASK MANDATE IN CLAY COUNTY. WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, WE HAVE HAD FAIRLY LOW HOSPITALIZATION RATES AND DEATH RATES. SO TO PUT UNDUE EXPECTATIONS ON OUR SENIORS, IF THERE IS A REASON TO, THAT IS FINE, BUT FLORIDA HAS ACTED DIFFERENTLY, AND OUR RATES ARE NOT TREMENDOUSLY DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER STATE.

THAT IS WHERE I TEND TO -- >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF OFFERING VACCINATIONS AT AT THE SINNERS THEY ARE COMING IN. IF WE GET EVERYONE VACCINATED, WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.

>> THAT'S THE OTHER THING. ONCE THEY ARE THERE, STAFF CAN TALK TO THEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO PURSUE THAT, TO GET A VACCINE. 1062% IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH.

>> THAT IS TRUE. >> WE OFFER VACCINATION APPOINTMENTS TO ALL OF OUR CLIENTS. WE CALLED THEM WEEKLY AND ASK THEM IF THEY ARE INTERESTED.

IF SO, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER TO HAVE APPOINTMENTS SCHEDULED.

WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR THEM AS WELL. THAT IS AN ONGOING EFFORT OF OUR TEAM. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT OFFER VACCINES AT OUR CENTER BUT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BECOME A VACCINATION SITE IF YOU APPOINT US.

ONE THING WE'RE DOING IS MAKING SURE WE EDUCATE OUR CLIENTS ON THE IMPORTANCE OF RECEIVING THE VACCINE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT BEYOND OPENING AS WELL.

>> MAYBE WE JUST NEED INCENTIVE. KRISPY KREME IS GIVING OUT FREE CHICKEN DINNERS.

>> WHERE THERE IS FOOD, THEY WILL COME. >> THERE YOU GO.

>> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE TRANSPORTATION AND FOR CALLING THEM, AND DIRECTOR WARD HAS KEPT ME UP TODAY, I HAVE HAD PRESIDENT SAY, THEY DID NOT KNOW WHERE TO GO AND HE HAS CORRECTED

THAT INFORMATION, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. >> SO, WE HAVE OUR PLAN TO GET STARTED ON APRIL 5. WE WILL LOOK FOR A WRITTEN PLAN BEFORE THAT.

THEN WE WILL BE BACK TOGETHER ON THE 13TH TO SEE WHERE WE GO. >> YOU WILL ALSO HAVE AN IDEA OF

WHAT TO TELL US AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >> MAYBE YOU CAN INTERVIEW YOUR

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FOLKS. ANYONE WHO WANTS A VACCINATION. >> ABSOLUTELY.

WE ARE THERE. >> THANK YOU. >> NUMBER 12, THE PUBLIC HEALTH

[12.  Public Health Department Building Update (G. Price)]

DEPARTMENT BUILDING UPDATE. >> FELLOW I AM JEAN PRICE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES.

I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH BUILDINGS. >> THESE ARE THE SLIDES YOU SAW BEFORE SO IT'S NOTHING NEW TO YOU. EVERYTHING REMAINS THE SAME PARAGRAPH TO DEPARTMENT HELP BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED AS WELL AS A PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING THAT WILL BE A COMBINED COMMUNICATION CENTER. RIGHT HERE, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW, FLEMING ISLAND LIBRARY. THE BUILDING WE PURCHASED WAS GOING TO BE THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH BUILDING AND BUILDING 500 WILL BE THE COMBINED COMMUNICATION CENTER.

RIGHT HERE, IS THE ESTIMATED TIMELINE WITH A RED LINE INDICATED FOR THE PROGRESS AND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. THE CRITERIA PACKAGE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH BUILDING SPIRIT ONE CONTINUING SERVICE CONTRACTS ARE WORKING THAT PACKAGE.

IT WILL BE WITH US ON APRIL 26 AND WE WILL START WORKING THE PROCUREMENT PACKAGE.

THE OTHER THING WE'RE WORKING WITH, MISSED ONE AND SEEM TRYING TO LEVY GRANTS OUT THERE TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COST WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. ALSO WORKED WITH HEATHER AND HER PERSONNEL, EITHER IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO SEE WHAT THE BUILDING 500 LAYOUT LOOKS LIKE FOR FOR TEMPORARY OCCUPANCY UNTIL SHE TRANSFERS OVER. ANY QUESTIONS, THAT IS ALL I

HAVE FOR THIS UPDATE. >> QUESTIONS? >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PHRASE THIS, ARE THEY DOING ENHANCED LANDSCAPING BETWEEN THE LIBRARY FACILITY AND THIS ONE?

TRYING TO MAKE A CAMPUS OUT OF THE WHOLE THING? >> THAT IS NOT IN OUR CURRENT

PLAN BUT WE WILL LOOK INTO IT. >> WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL CHUNK OF PROPERTY OVER THERE.

MAYBE WE CAN MAKE IT MORE INVITING, SOME GRAVEL ROAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> CRITERIA PACKAGE FOR BUILDING 500 AS WELL? >> I THINK WE WILL PROBABLY DO A DIFFERENT ROUTE BECAUSE VIA SPECIALTY EQUIPMENT, AND POSSIBLY THE ENGINEERING PLAN TO GET THAT AND PUT IT OUT FOR A BID WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WE ARE LOOKING TO DO A

PACKAGE TO REDUCE THE TIME. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS EUGENE? >> THE DENTAL, HAS THAT BEEN

DECIDED? >> COVID UPDATE PART TWO. >> JUST TO TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE

[13.  COVID Update]

SOME PEOPLE WON'T GET VACCINTED BUT EVEN WITH THAT IT IS NOT ONE 100%.

WE CALLED THIS BREAKTHROUGH CASES, WE HAVE HAD THREE OF THOSE SO FAR, THE DEFINITION ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH RELATED TO THOSE CASES IS ONCE SOMEONE HAS BEEN VACCINATED BY THE SECOND DOSE, AT LEAST 14 DAYS POST THAT AND THEY ARE ABLE TO TEST POSITIVE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE CASES INDIVIDUALLY. WE HAVE ONE THAT FELL OUT OF THAT DEFINITION BECAUSE THEY WERE WITHIN THE 14 DAYS. THE OTHER TWO, WHICH IS UNIQUE AND WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS, THEY BOTH TESTED POSITIVE WITH ANTIGEN TEST. THAT IS THE RAPID TEST AND IT HAS A MUCH HIGHER LIKELIHOOD TO GIVE YOU A FALSE POSITIVE. WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT AND RESEARCHING THAT DATA AS IT COMES THROUGH. THE STATE IS ALREADY TRACKING THOSE CASES. EVEN SO, THE DATA WITH THE CASES WITH PFIZER AND MODERNA SHELLS 94% EFFECTIVE RATE. IT IS NOT ONE 100%. AS WE LOOK AT THE VACCINATIONS WE WILL DELIVER 63,000 DOSES IN CLAY COUNTY. 30,000 OF THOSE HAVE COME OUT OF THAT POD IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH. A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK HAS

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50-54 WERE AT 15%. THE QUESTION WOULD BE, HOW DID YOU GET IN THOSE GROUPS.

SOME OF THOSE WOULD'VE BEEN HEALTHCARE WORKERS OR FIREFIGHTERS OR THOSE WHO FELL INTO THOSE GROUPINGS. WE DO HAVE A PLAN FOR HOMEBOUND AND LONG-TERM CARE.

THERE HAS BEEN A GAP WITH LONG-TERM CARE FACILITY RESIDENTS, CVS, WALGREENS DID COME IN TO DO THE MATH FASCINATION AT THE BEGINNING IN JANUARY AND FINISHED UP THROUGH THIS TIME FRAME. WE DO KNOW THERE WERE PEOPLE, WHO MAY HAVE REFUSED AT THAT TIME WHEN THEY CAME IN AND WERE NOT ABLE TO GET VACCINATED OR NEW RESIDENTS.

WE ARE TRYING TO, WE CALL THOSE FACILITIES EACH WEEK. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE COVID STARTED AND CHECK ON ANY STATUS OR ISSUES WITH STAFFING. WE ARE NOT ASKING THEM IF THEY CAN START CREATING A LIST FOR US AND WHEN THEY GET ENOUGH FOR PFIZER OR MODERNA, WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND DO THE VACCINATIONS AND KNOW WHEN WE CAN REPEAT THEM SO WE CAN CAPTURE THOSE AND GET OUR NUMBERS. WE WILL WORK WITH THE HOME HEALTH AGENCIES TO IDENTIFY THOSE WHO ARE HOMEBOUND AND THEN WE WILL REACH OUT FOR THE ONES ON MEALS ON WHEELS BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONES PROBABLY MORE HOMEBOUND THAN THE ONES THAT COME TO THE SENIOR CITIZENS.

THAT'S THE UPDATE AND I WILL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> 62% IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH.

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WITH THE SALES REPRESENTATIVE TO TOUCH THEM SEMINARY TIMES BEFORE THEY BUY NEW CARS. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TOUCH THE ELDERLY.

THEY ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE. WHAT I FEAR, THEY ARE THE MOST VULNERABLE AND 62%, YOU GET DOWN TO THE AGE BRACKETS LESS VULNERABLE, AND YOU WILL SEE NUMBERS THAT DON'T EVEN REACH 62%. I SEE A TIME WHEN WE WILL BE SWIMMING, AND NOT HAVE THE PARTICIPATION WE WANT FROM THE PUBLIC. I THINK, I LOOK AT PSA'S TRYING TO CONVINCE THE ELDERLY PEOPLE LIKE ME, PEOPLE OVER 65, THAT THEY SHOULD GET VACCINATED AND IT IS A TOUGH SELL FOR SOME PEOPLE, I GUESS, DO WE HAVE ANY PLAN FOR PSA, TO GET VACCINATED

TODAY, TO STAY SAFE. >> WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

DON AND I AM THE GROUP WERE BRAINSTORMING AND I SPOKE WITH THE STATE ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING. WE ARE GETTING INTO THE SWIMMING AND VACCINE SITUATION.

SO THOSE 50 AND OLDER, WE CAN SEE YOU AND GET YOU VACCINATED. JOHN WILL TALK ABOUT A FEW ISSUES WITH TRANSPORTATION, WE WILL ALSO GO READ SOME DISADVANTAGED AREAS, SOME OF THOSE AREAS TO REACH THE INDIVIDUALS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, THE STATE IS LOOKING AT THAT AND HOW WE WILL REACH THE TARGETED EFFORTS.

WHEN YOU DO MATH FASCINATION'S AND PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, AT THE BEGINNING IT IS ALWAYS A HIGH DEMAND AND SUPPLY. NOW WE HAVE ENOUGH SUPPLY, THAT WE WILL HAVE TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO THE INDIVIDUALS AND FIND THEM. WE WILL EVENTUALLY BE OUT OF THE POD BUSINESS BUT WE WILL HAVE A NEW IMMUNIZATION BUSINESS. WE MAY HAVE TO DO THE VACCINATION CLINICS AND THOSE THINGS. LOGISTICALLY, THAT IS SO MUCH MORE CHALLENGING AT THE BEGINNING WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

EVERY TIME YOU SET UP, YOU KNOW YOU WILL HAVE PROCESS INEFFICIENCIES.

I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR, WE ARE STARTING TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO MOVE FROM SITTING AND WAITING TO GETTING PEOPLE TO COME TO US AND HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT CHANGE FOR PART OF WHAT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE, WE GOT MODERNA, THAT WAS THE ONLY THING WE HAD.

THEN WE HAD PFIZER. WE HAVE GOTTEN A SMALL AMOUNT OF THINGS AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN WANTING TO WAIT FOR THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON VACCINE. IT IS ONE-SHOT.

AND NUMBER TWO, IT WAS CREATED ON THE HISTORICAL WAY OF HOW WE MAKE VACCINES WHICH IS NOT LIKE THE NEW ONE WHERE PEOPLE THINK IT MESSES WITH YOUR DNA. ONCE WE CAN PROVIDE THE VACCINE

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I HAVE, THE DOCTOR ON STAFF WHO IS A PHD EXPLAIN THE TECHNOLOGY. PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN BELIEF.

UNFORTUNATELY THIS VACCINATION HAS BEEN POLITICIZED. IT IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE SCIENCE FAIR IT IS ABOUT WHAT ADMINISTRATION CREATED IT AND DELIVERED IT.

IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY. WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

I WILL HEAR -- HAVE JOHN TALK ABOUT THE TWO OTHER THINGS. >> I THINK WE HAVE A GAP IN THE TWO AREAS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. WE HAVE A LARGER NUMBER OF 65 AND OLDER.

TO GET ON A BUS AND RIDE 30 MINUTES, THEN BACK, CAN BE TAXING.

THEY DON'T WANT TO GO 45 MINUTES TO THE DOCTOR. I THINK YOU MAY HAVE SOME THAT ARE WAITING AND WE KEPT TELLING THEM CVS AND WALGREENS WAS COMING.

BUT NEITHER HAVE IT. OUR CVS HAS SO MANY ISSUES. THEY ARE TAKING 4-5 DAYS TO FILL

PRESCRIPTIONS. >> WE HAVE REALLOCATED ALMOST 5,000 DOSES BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT GETTING A PUSH ALLOCATION. WE'VE MADE THAT A PUSH. THAT IS PART OF THE PROGRAM.

WE REALLOCATED TO THEM WE HAVE DONE THAT TWICE. THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY AND JOHN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. WE ARE MAKING A POINT WHERE WE WILL HAVE TO COME.

THE PROBLEM IS YOU ARE IN THE PARKING LOT, YOU HAVE WEATHER, THEN YOU TAKE THE STAFF AND YOU

SPLIT IT, BUT WE ARE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. >> IS THERE A WAY TO WORK WITH A WALGREENS THAT IS NOT A PROVIDER FROM THE FEDERAL PROGRAM THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO PROVIDE IT.

I KNOW THE DOCTOR HAS TALKED ABOUT CHALLENGES WITH STORAGE IN THE COLD AND THAT SORT OF THING.

>> TYPICALLY, WALGREENS, PUBLIX THEY ONLY WANT THE MODERNA BECAUSE IT IS FROZEN.

IT DOES NOT COME ULTRACOLD. WE HAVE PFIZER AND IT IS ULTRACOLD.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE PRIVATE PROVIDERS, WE CALLED THEM AND SAID HOW MANY DOSES DO YOU WANT, THAT YOU CAN PUT INTO SOMEONE'S ARM IN FIVE DAYS, SO THEY GAVE US THAT NUMBER WE WOULD HAVE TO SWITCH BACK AROUND AND THREE WEEKS LATER WE CAN DELIVER THE SECOND DOSES.

SO, IN ORDER FOR ME TOO TAKE MY VACCINE, THE FEDERAL VACCINE AND GIVE IT TO A PROVIDER, THEY HAVE TO SIGN THE COVID ENROLLMENT PAPERWORK. I CANNOT JUST GIVE IT TO WAYNE AND HE'S AN MD, BUT I CANNOT GIVE HIM THE VACCINE WITHOUT HIM SIGNING THE PAPERWORK.

>> I THINK, I WILL ASSIST YOU IN YOUR ISSUES. TWO THINGS WE ARE WORKING ON.

WE ARE PARTNERING WITH TWO DIFFERENT AGENCIES BEARS ONE, WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A CALL AND SAY WE HAD CONCERNS ON BOOKS AND TRANSPORTATION SO WE PARTNERED WITH AN AGENCY AND WE WERE WORKING ON PICKING THEM UP AND DELIVERING THEM TO THE SITE AND RETURNING THEM BACK, KIND OF LIKE AN UBER. WE ARE WORKING ON AN MOU WITH A COMPANY, THEY WILL COME IN AND HAD THEIR STEAM WILL REALLOCATE THIS ONE IS OFF OF GROVE STREET. THEN DOWN AT FIRE STATION 24.

WE WILL SET UP APPOINTMENT FACE BUT IT WILL GO TO CHALLENGE COMMUNITIES AND WE WILL SEE HOW THAT WORKS. HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE THAT GOING INTO-3 WEEKS.

WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. >> ONCE WE GET THIS READY TO GO YOU CAN DO A PRESS RELEASE. REALLY GET THE WORD OUT. THIS IS WHERE THE ONES THAT ARE

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>> I DO HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT FOR THE JOHNSON & JOHNSON AND WE ARE DOING THOSE FOR THE LONG-TERM CARE FACILITIES. IT IS CHALLENGING TO DO IT. THE THEY WILL BE OUT OF THE COMMUNITY BUT RIGHT NOW ALL I HAVE IS PFIZER WHICH IS THE HEART STORED ONE AND A SMALL AMOUNT FOR J&J AND WE WANT TO DO THE SPECIAL CASES SO WE CAN GET THEM VACCINATED.

IT IS VERY LOGISTICALLY CHALLENGED. >> THE YOUNGER POPULATION WILL

NOT BE. >> SCHOOLTEACHERS AND NOW THOSE OVER 50.

>> THE GOAL IS FOR US TO EVENTUALLY BE OUT OF THE POT BUSINESS.

HOPEFULLY THE ARMOR SIRS WILL BE DO THAT. YOUR DOCTORS OFFICES THAT DO COVID ENROLLMENT WE CAN SEE IF ANY OF THEM WANT TO BE IN THAT GAME.

WE HAVE ABOUT 20 PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. EVENTUALLY, WE WILL DO IT AT THE NEW BUILDING LOCATION, AND THAT WILL BE THE NEW NORM. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO. WE DON'T HAVE TO RUN LARGE-SCALE PODS.

WE JUST HAPPEN TO BE THE ONLY GAME RIGHT NOW. >> YOU JUST SAID BEAR RUN, WILL

THAT BE MOVED TO THE OTHER FACILITY? >> IT WILL MOVE IN 400 WHEN THAT

BUILDING IS DONE AND RENOVATED. >> EVENTUALLY, THE SECOND QUESTION, WILL ANY DOCTOR'S

OFFICE BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER THIS VACCINE, LAISSEZ NEXT YEAR? >> YES, WE HAVE DOCTORS OFFICES

DOING IT RIGHT NOW. >> SO YOU GET WHATEVER IT IS. >> DO THEY RECEIVE FEDERAL VACCINE COLLECTS THERE IS AN AGREEMENT WHERE YOU MANAGE THE STORAGE AND HANDLING OF IT.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO SIGN THE COVID ENROLLMENT PAPERWORK. WE GET A NORMAL VACCINE AND THEN

WE ALSO HAVE TO SIGN A COVID PAPERWORK. >> A REGULAR DOCTOR COULD CHARGE

WHATEVER IT COSTS. >> IF I GET A FEDERAL VACCINE, WE COULD ADMINISTER IT.

IT IS LIKE $10 OR $12. IF YOU RECEIVED THE VACCINE, THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR THE

VACCINE ITSELF. >> IF I GET A TETANUS SHOT, PART OF MY PHYSICAL, I PAY FOR THAT.

EVENTUALLY, IS THAT WHERE THIS MODEL WILL GO COLLECTS. >> THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF WAYS. EACH DOCTOR'S OFFICE, IT DEPENDS IF THEY ARE FEDERALLY ENROLLED OR IF THEY ARE BUYING IT AND PURCHASING IT THEMSELVES. THAT WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE.

IF THEY COME TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE UNINSURED THEY WILL GET IT FOR FREE. WE ARE NOT CURRENTLY BILLING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION FEE BECAUSE WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC. IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY GET THE VACCINE.

IF THEY GET IT FROM THE FEDS THEY CAN BUILD THE CUSTOMER THE ADMINISTRATION FEE.

IF THEY PURCHASE THE VACCINE, THEN THEY CAN CHARGE FOR THE COST AND THE ADMINISTRATION FEE.

>> DID YOU PROMULGATE YOUR WEEKLY DASHBOARD REPORT. >> I SENT IT YESTERDAY.

>> I TOOK A WEEK OFF BUT I DID SEND IT YESTERDAY. DID YOU GET IT?

>> IN ADDITION TO THE LOGISTICS I THINK WE HAVE A MESSAGING PROBLEM.

I DON'T KNOW WE AS A COUNTY CAN DO ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THAT. WHAT WE NEED TO DO, GET ANNALISA OR KIMBERLY OUT OF TOURISM AND SOME SOCIAL MEDIA PEOPLE, TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO IN TERMS OF BUTCHERING THAT YOU GET THE MESSAGE TO A CERTAIN POINT. AS YOU GET THE YOUNGER GROUPS, YOU WILL HAVE LESS AND LESS. IT WILL BE MORE THAN US BEING ABLE TO PUMP OUT THAT YOU NEED

TO GET THE VACCINE, WHETHER KRISPY KREME DOUGHNUTS,. >> THAT WAS A JOKE, FUNNEL CAKE AT THE FAIR. WE WILL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT WITH THE MOVIES OPENING UP.

MAYBE WE WILL DO PSA'S ON THAT. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

WE DID DO IT WITH THE HEPATITIS OUTBREAK. WE HAD FOOD VOUCHERS, WE WILL GET TO A POINT WHERE WE NEED TO, INCENTIVIZE THE IMMUNIZATION CAMPAIGN.

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>> IT WILL HAVE TO BE ABOVE AND BEYOND TO CUT THROUGH THE MESSAGES PEOPLE GET.

>> PUT TOSHA ON SENIOR DAY. FREE INOCULATION. GET INTO THE FAIR FREE.

YOU GET A FREE ANYWAY. >> TOUGH -- TOSHA CAN DO A LOT OUT THERE.

>> MAY BE PONY RIDES. >> ONE ADDITIONAL THING TO TELL YOUR CONSTITUENTS, WE STILL HAVE PLENTY OF APPOINTMENTS AVAILABLE. WE ARE PROBABLY FILLING TWO THIRDS ON A DAILY BASIS. YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS

OR TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGES THEY CAN CALL US. >> THANK YOU.

IT IS GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK HEATHER. >> LET'S MOVE AHEAD TWO NUMBER

[14.  CARES Act Update]

PRESENTATION. >> I AM THE CARE ZACH DEMONSTRATED.

ONE WE DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE CARE ZACK MONEY, IT HAS ALL BEEN SPENT AS ALLOCATED BY THE BOARD.

WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, YES, YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND MONEY ON THINGS LIKE VACCINATION PROMOTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE YOU WILL SEE AS HELPING YOU GET THROUGH THE VACCINES OR PUSH THEM OUT OR PROMOTE THEM. I AM STARTING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE SINCE IT IS CLEAR THERE ARE TWO PROGRAMS. TAKE CARE ZACH, DOES THAT ANSWER

YOUR QUESTION COLLECTS. >> WE CAN START AND ADD CAMPAIGN.

>> ANYTHING YOU DO, PROMOTING VACCINES IS ALSO A STAFFORD ACT, SO, YOU WOULD GET THE MONEY AND

ASKED THE GOVERNMENT TO PAY YOU BACK THROUGH THE VACCINE. >> RADIO AND TELEVISION, THEY DO

IT RIGHT. >> I THINK YOU HAVE SOME FUNDING OPTIONS TO GET THE MONEY

REIMBURSED BACK TO THE COUNTY. >> CARE ZACH THE MONEY IS $38 MILLION.

FUNDING WAS RECEIVED ON THE 17TH. THEY APPROVED THE UPFRONT MONEY COMING INTO THE COUNTY. $21 MILLION WAS TO BE REIMBURSED BASED ON EXPENSIVE WE HAVE HAD.

THEY HAVE APPROVED 91%, YOU HAVE RECEIVED $18.8 MILLION OF THAT MONEY OR IT WILL BE IN THE BANK ACCOUNT TOMORROW. SO, THAT IS THE CARES ACT UPDATE.

ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE AHEAD COLLECTS CARE ZACH RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE WE WERE AT THAT NUMBER LAST TIME. >> 80%, THEY HAVE SLOWED DOWN ON VALIDATING, THEY ARE FOCUSING MORE ON GETTING THE MONEY THAT'S RANKED MONEY OUT OF THEIR BANK

ACCOUNTS AS THEY HAVE A DEADLINE. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS THE

ADMINISTRATING VALIDATING THIS? >> IS -- WE DO HAVE A FEW PURCHASES OUT THERE THAT WE ARE FINALIZING. WE DID HAVE AN EXTENSION THAT ALLOWED US TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE PURCHASES THAT WE HAD THAT DID NOT GET COMPLETED BY JANUARY.

INSTEAD OF US ASKING YOU FOR MONEY FOR THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO USE THE CARES ACT MONEY.

THERE IS NO ISSUES ON OUR SIDE, IT IS REALLY WAITING FOR THE STATE TO FINALIZE.

THEY WERE MOVING PAYROLL THROUGH ABOUT ONCE PER WEEK, I HAVE HAD PAYROLL SITTING IN THERE SINCE JANUARY 4, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN AROUND TO VALIDATING IT YET. IT IS JUST BOGGING THE SYSTEM

DOWN. >> WHEN WILL WE KNOW, THAT WE ARE NO LONGER SUBJECT TO AUDIT COLLECTS IS THERE A POINT QUICKSAND YOU ARE ALWAYS SUBJECT TO AUDIT.

>> WHATEVER YOUR FINANCIAL TEAM WOULD TELL YOU. HOWEVER, THE CONFIDENCE LEVEL OF US MEETING THE STATE GUIDELINES, HAS TO BE DONE BY THE END OF JUNE.

THAT IS THE CARES ACT EXTENSION. BY THE END OF JUNE, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ONE 100% CLOSED OUT.

THAT IS THE POINT WHERE -- THAT IS THE POINT WHERE YOU CAN SAY WE DON'T HAVE TO RETURN ANY

MONEY. >> THE NEXT THING WOULD BE THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE UPDATES.

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THE TOTAL NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS RECEIVED AS OF 3:00 P.M. WAS FOR 38.

THAT MEANS THEY STARTED THE APPLICATION PROCESS. THIS IS A VERY INVOLVED APPLICATION. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THE SO FAR, 84 PEOPLE MADE IT THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS. THEY PROCESSED NINE OF THE APPLICATIONS AND COMPLETED THEM WHICH MEANS THAT SO MANY THEY PROCESS BY 3:00 P.M. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING

DOCUMENTS AND GETTING THINGS UPLOADED. >> TOTAL FUNDS REQUESTED, IT WOULD BE $624,000, RIGHT NOW WE ARE LIMITED TO THREE MONTHS. IF YOU PAY THEM EVERYTHING THEY ASKED FOR, WHETHER EIGHT OR SIX MONTHS PAST DUE, IT WOULD BE $624,000 OUT OF YOUR $6.6 MILLION. SO, I JUST PROVIDED THAT NUMBER TO GIVE YOU GUIDANCE ON WHERE WE ARE SITTING RIGHT NOW. IF YOU TIMES THAT BY FIVE YOU'RE LOOKING AT $3 MILLION IN WHAT

PEOPLE WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR. >> THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL TWO DAYS AGO, I THINK IT WAS 20-50% OF THE LANDLORDS ELIGIBLE TO GET THIS MONEY, ARE WE RUNNING --

>> WE DON'T KNOW THAT. AND I THINK VICTORIA CAN SPEAK BETTER TO THAT.

>> HELLO, WHAT WE ARE FINDING OUT WITH THE LANDLORD AND TENNANT'S WORKING TOGETHER IS A LOT OF PERSONAL INFORMATION. THE LANDLORD STONE JUST WANT TO HAND IT OVER TO THE TENANTS SO THEY DO HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD HAVE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ARE RUNNING INTO IT A LITTLE BIT. THEY NEED TO RECEIVE THOSE PERSONALLY INSTEAD OF THOSE TURNING THEM OVER TO THE TENANTS.

>> WHAT KIND OF STRINGS ARE ATTACHED TO THE LANDLORD'S PARTICIPATION?

>> I DON'T KNOW THEY NEED. >> BASICALLY THE STRENGTHS ARE ON THE TENNANT SIDE.

IF WE CAN MAKE CONTACT, IT HAS TO GO TO THE LANDMARK AND THAT PRESENT -- PREVENTS THE PERSON FROM SAYING THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME EIGHT MONTHS OF RENT. THE MONEY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE LANDLORD. I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY OTHERS WHO ARE OPENING THEMSELVES UP FOR AUDIT BECAUSE YOU ARE RECEIVING FEDERAL FUNDING.

WITH THAT COMES THE 5-7 YEARS TO AUDIBILITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE RECEIVED FEDERAL MONEY.

>> IF THE EARLY NUMBERS HOLD, YOU PROBABLY GOT $3 MILLION. OF THE 438 APPLICATIONS, WHEN

DID THEY COME IN COLLECTS WHERE THEY EVENLY SPLIT COLLECTS. >> I THINK WE HAD 300 COME IN.

THEY PROBABLY DWINDLED. >> THEY SEEM TO TRICKLE IN. IT IS A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION THEY HAVE TO COLLECT. WE HAVE BEEN TAKING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND REITERATING WHAT THEY NEED TO GET IN AND WALKING PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS. THIS HAS DOUBLED TODAY.

>> COMMISSIONER BURKE? >> I BROUGHT THIS UP WHEN WE FIRST MET.

WHAT I ASKED BEFORE, I KNOW WE ALLOWED PEOPLE THREE MONTHS BEHIND OR TIME TO APPLY, MY REQUEST WAS THAT WHATEVER YOUR BELIEF IS, PAYING RENT, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE SAID THEY WILL PAY RENT NO MATTER WHAT AND THEY WILL SUFFER BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.

ONE PERSON IN PARTICULAR, A VERY HARD WORKER, BUT DID SUFFER LAST YEAR, WAS ABLE TO SHOW THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF WE CAN OPEN IT UP TO PEOPLE WHO WERE ABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT OR DID WHATEVER THEY COULD TO PAY IT. A SINGLE MOM. BUT YET THEY SUFFERED IN OTHER

WAYS, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THAT SAME POSITION. >> I WAS GOING TO SAVE THE

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WE DID HAVE QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS WHO SAID, I DON'T WANT TO BE BEHIND ON MY RENT, SO I TOOK CASH ADVANCES OR I DID NOT PAY OTHER BILLS BECAUSE I WOULD NOT BE BEHIND ON MY RENT.

WE DID SEE THAT, 25% OF THE PEOPLE ATTENDED THE MEETING AND WE SAW THAT.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS PREVALENT IN THE APPLICATION. THEY HAVE TO SHOW THEY HAD A

LOSS OF INCOME OR DECREASE IN INCOME. >> THEY WOULD ONLY BE ELIGIBLE FOR THREE MONTHS. THAT WOULD BE THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CHANGE OR ADD THAT AS A PROVISION OR ADD MORE MONTHS BACK OVERWEIGHT 30 DAYS.

I THINK IT IS UP TO THE BOARD'S DESIRE ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED.

>> CAN YOU GIVE ME MORE IDEAS, IF WE WILL PAY SOMEONE IN ADVANCE, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO

PROVE, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO PROVE? >> THEY HAVE TO APPROVE THEY ARE NOT BEHIND AND THEY HAVE HAD SOME SITE OF -- SOME SORT OF IMPACT DUE TO TRAFFIC FATE -- DUE TO COVID-19. THEY HAVE TO FALL INTO THE ELVES VISIBILITY THRESHOLD.

>> THAT GOES RIGHT TO THE RENTER AND IT WOULD GO TO THE LANDLORD STILL.

>> THE PROVISION IS, THE MONEY WOULD GO TO THE LANDLORD AS AN ADVANCE FORWARD TO-3 MONTHS.

>> THERE ARE PROVISIONS FOR THE LANDLORD THAT CAN'T DEMAND THAT, DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I AM TRYING

TO SAY? >> WE ARE REQUIRED TO SAVE THE MONEY HAS BEEN APPLIED TO THE TENANTS ACCOUNT. I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM.

THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF IT WAS GIVEN TO THE TENNANT. >> THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, OR

38, APPLICANT'S OR LANDLORDS WAS IT? >> THERE WAS A COMBINATION OF BOTH. SOME HAVE 2-3 PEOPLE PAST DUE AND THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THREE APPLICATIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED. 438 IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF TENANTS WHETHER APPLIED FOR BY THE TENNANT OR THE LANDLORD. ACTIVE APPLICATIONS. > AND IS THE LANDLORD TRYING TO

GET -- >> IF YOU ARE RENTING OUT A HOUSE BECAUSE YOU ARE A LANDLORD, WE HAVE TO REPORT THAT TO OUR FRIENDS SO THEY CAN DO YOUR 1099.

YOUR PERSONAL TRAINING OF THE HOUSE HAVE TO HAVE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY ON FILE.

>> THAT IS PART OF IT. THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT WANT TO GIVE OUT THEIR SOCIAL

SECURITY NUMBER TO SOMEONE WHO IS A TENNANT. >> I WILL SAY THE LANDLORDS WHO HAVE CONTACTED US OR THE TENETS OF SIN MIGHT LANDLORD IS NOT WILLING TO GIVE ME THIS INFORMATION. WE RECEIVED FIVE CALLS TODAY AND FOR DOCUMENTS.

THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE SENDING IT TO US AND OUR TEAM IS WELL PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE

LANDLORDS IN THAT MATTER. >> THE BOTTOM LINE, BASED ON THE INITIAL DEMAND IN TERMS OF THE MONEY, IF WE DECIDE TO GO TO THE THREE MONTH ADVANCE FOR THOSE WHO FOUND A WAY TO PAY THEIR RENT IN THE PAST BUT WERE DAMAGED AND WE COULD SEE A BREATHER HERE WITH THE RENT, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE ENOUGH TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ONES THAT WE HAVE.

>> I THINK WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTION ON PAIN, YOUR PAST DUE HAS TO BE CAUGHT UP. YOU WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING AND SAY WE WILL PAY UP TO SIX MONTHS. OR UP TO SIX MONTHS IN ARREARS BECAUSE IF SOMEONE IS FOUR MONTHS PAST DUE, OR TWO MONTHS PAST DUE, WE WOULD PAID THEM THE TWO MONTHS BACK, WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE CAUGHT UP. WE JUST NEEDED TO KNOW YOUR

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UNTIL DECEMBER. UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE A SIMILAR AMOUNT OF MONEY COMING IN FOR A SECOND WAVE OF ASSISTANCE THAT WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE NEXT

CALENDAR YEARS. >> HOW DOES EVERYONE ELSE FEEL? >> REFRESH ME.

I'LL BE GOING THE FULL AMOUNTS TO THOSE WERE WE PUTTING LIMITS ON IT?

>> UTILITIES AND RENT IS THE ONLY RESTRICTION WE PUT ON IT AT THIS POINT.

>> I FEEL MAKES. WE DID NOT HAVE A LOT, WE JUST CAST THE NET, WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WE WOULD GET. WE'VE ONLY BEEN TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR TWO FULL DAYS.

WE SAID 30 DAYS, AND WE WOULD REVIEW IT. I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THAT. SEE WHAT WE GET AFTER THE 30 DAYS.

I AM SURE THERE ARE A FEW RESIDENTS, -- >> WE HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGING EVERYONE WHO THINK THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY. SO, IF THE DECISION IS MADE IN THE 30 DAYS OR WHENEVER YOU MAKE THE CHANGES WE WILL HAVE THE APPLICATION IN-HOUSE ALREADY.

>> THE ONLY REASON I SAY WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT, IT IS A SMALL NUMBER THERE WERE 50 PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP, AND 25% WERE IN THE SITUATION WHERE THEY COULD USE THE HELPING HAND? I AM GOOD EITHER WAY, I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT ASPECT WHICH WE HAD NOT CONSIDERED

PRIOR. >> WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT MEETING. >> WE TWO WEEKS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF TOTAL APPLICATIONS. YOU HAVE A BETTER HANDLE ON HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD NEED MORE, THREE MONTHS MORE, OR REVERSE IN TERMS OF MORTGAGES PAST DUE OR

THOSE PEOPLE STEP FORWARD AND SAY I COVERED MYSELF HERE. >> AT THAT POINT YOU WILL BE CLOSE TO YOUR 30 DAYS. IT WILL BE THREE WEEKS OUT, IF I'M CORRECT.

TWENTY-ONE DAYS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY DONE. YOU WILL BE RIGHT AT THE 21 DAY MARK SO AT THE END OF 30 DAYS WE WILL EXTEND THE PROGRAM, AND YOU WOULD BE EATING BOTH SIDES OF

IT. >> SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY UP RIGHT --, OF THESE WL

HAVE ALREADY APPLIED. GREAT JOB. >> WE'RE GOING TO NUMBER 18, OLD

[15.  Approval of an amendment to Clay County Public School Concurrency Proportionate Share Mitigation Agreement between Clay County, the School Board of Clay County and Bradley Creek Holdings, LLC (Clay County Agreement/Contract #2019/2020-134)]

PROPORTIONATE SHARE OF MITIGATION AGREEMENT. >> THIS IS IN CONNECTION WITH AN AGREEMENT THE BOARD OF A IN MAY 2020. IN CONNECTION WITH THE AGREEMENT, THERE WAS AN ERROR ON THE ATTACHMENT A WHICH WAS THE PROPERTY DESCRIPTION AND THEY ARE MOVING THROUGH WITH A DESCRIPTION AS WELL AS WITH US TO CORRECT THE PROPERTY

DESCRIPTION. >> SO IT INCLUDED AN ADDITIONAL PARCEL THEY DID NOT WANT AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT OR THEY DID NOT INTEND FOR IT TO BE PART OF THE AGREEMENT.

>> IF THEY DID NOT INTEND FOR IT, I WAS NOT ON THE COMMISSION, DID THE COMMISSION AND SCHOOL

BOARD INTEND FOR IT TO BE PART OF THE AGREEMENT? >> NO.

>> IT WAS NOT PART OF THE CONCURRENCY AGREEMENT. >> AND THE SCHOOL BOARDS ALREADY

APPROVE THE AMENDMENT. >> SUSAN, DO YOU KNOW WHO CAUGHT THE ERRO COLLECTS.

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>> I AM ASSUMING THE PROPERTY OWNER CAUGHT IT. THEY WOULD HAVE DONE IT.

>> THIS IS IN JACKSONVILLE AND I AM REPRESENTING THE PARTY THAT WAS PART OF THE AGREEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE COUNTY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARCEL, AND PARCEL C THAT IS ONLY HALF OF THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION. IT WAS AN ERROR THAT IT WAS IN THERE. IT WASN'T A COMPLETE DESCRIPTION IT WAS JUST CAUSING CONFUSION.

WHEN THE TITLE WAS BEING PREPARED, THE TITLE COMPANY FELT IT WOULD CREATE FUTURE CONFUSION. THERE WAS NO CONFUSION ON THE SCHOOL BOARD BY THE TITLE COMPANY SAID, PEOPLE LOOKING AT THIS DOWN THE LINE MAY CAUSE YOU SOME DIFFICULTIES, SO IT IS

EASIEST TO JUST DELETE IT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION COLLECTS.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY TRAMP -- ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION CARRIES. >>

[17.  Notice of Intent and Award of Bid #20/21-23, Right-of-Way and Stormwater Pond Mowing and Accompanying Agreement with BrightView Landscape Services, Inc. (T. Gardner/M. Todd)]

>> THIS IS PART OF OUR GOAL TO& OUTSOURCE POTIONS THROUGH THE PUBLIC SERVICE DEPARTMENTS.

EIGHT CYCLES OF MOEN -- MOWING THIS IS A NEW COMPANY TO THE COUNTY.

WE DID A REFERENCE CHECK AND DID ASKED FOR INFORMATION AS FAR AS THEIR MANPOWER AND THE ABILITY TO TAKE OVER THE CONTRACT. STAFF WAS HAPPY. LAST YEAR WE PAID $184,000 TO JND MAINTENANCE, WE LOOK AT THIS AS BEING RIGHT IN LINE WITH WHAT WE PAID IN THE PAST.

THERE WAS SOME ALTERNATE ITEMS PART OF WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT INCLUDED THE ABILITY TO ADD SOME EXTRA CYCLES TO THE LOCATION. WE KNOW YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT DID YOU HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE FIRST BETTER IN THE SECOND BIDDER?

>> THE BID WAS ABOUT 50%. THAT WAS A CONCERN TO ME, WHEN YOU HAVE A DELTA IN THE BIDS,

WHAT WAS THE REASON. >> SO THIS WAS LOWER ON THE DEBRIS REMOVAL.

THIS WAS WHERE THEY WERE LOW ON, MAYBE THEY HAVE A GOOD WAY OF PICKING UP LITTER, OTHER THAN THAT, THE PRICES DID NOT SEEM MUCH LOWER, IT WAS JUST THAT ONE AREA, THEY WERE JUST HIGHER ON

THE POND. >> THIS WAS $180? >> IF WE DO THE SERVICES IT

WOULD BE ABOUT $180,000. >> THAT IS WHAT IS NICE ABOUT THIS BID.

IF THEY DON'T NEED TO DO EDGING, WE DO NOT REQUIRE THEM TO GO OUT AND DO THE EDGING.

MAYBE IT IS NOT NEEDED. WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FOR SERVICE THAT IS NOT NEEDED.

>> 184 IS IN LINE WITH WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY PAYING. THERE WERE THREE COMPANIES THAT PUT IN A BID. OTHERS WERE SIMILAR AND THIS ONE WAS HALF.

>>) IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNIT PRICES, THE ONLY BIG DIFFERENCE WAS THE LINE ITEM.

>> THE OTHER ISSUE, I THINK THE CURRENT PROVIDER HAD, THE BID 180,000 LAST YEAR.

360 THIS YEAR. >> THEY FIGURED OUT THEY COULD NOT MAKE ANY MONEY ON WHAT THEY

WERE DOING. THESE GUYS DO NOT KNOW IT YET. >>

>> WE ASKED HIM DIRECTLY, WHAT IS YOUR MANPOWER FOR THIS LOCATION AND THEY DID PROVIDE US

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WE DO HAVE IT IN THE CONTRACT IF THEY CAN'T PERFORM. >> IT TAKES A WILD TO BUILD YOUR CONTRACTORS UP. WE ARE TRYING TO GET A STABLE OF CONTRACTORS.

EVENTUALLY, IN TEN YEARS WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE USED TO DOING THE WORK AND THE PRICES WILL STABILIZE. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE JUST DOING A START UP ON SOME OF THIS STUFF.

KEEP TRYING. WE WILL HAVE SOME FAILURES ALONG THE WAY BUT KEEP MOVING.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KAREN AT THIS TIME COLLECTS. >> I AM LOOKING FOR A MOTION OR

MORE DISCOVERY? >> ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED IT PASSES 5-0.

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>> WE WILL MOVE ALONG. >> THIS ITEM REQUEST A TRANSFER FROM THE FUND RESERVES FOR FIRE STATION REMEDIATION. THE GENERAL FUND RESERVES ARE CURRENTLY AT $3.4 MILLION IN THE FIRE FUND RESERVES ARE CURRENTLY AT $619,000. THE CHIEF IS HERE TO EXPLAIN

WHAT IS GOING ON. >> AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO GET CORRECTED. WE ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT PROBLEM BECAUSE THIS IS A TWO-PHASE THING. ONE IS A REQUEST FOR MOVING THE FUNDS, SO WE CAN REPLENISH FUNDS WE HAVE SPENT ON THESE AREAS THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE.

THE REPAIR FUNDS THAT ARE GOING FORWARD. THAT IS THE FIRST PART.

THE SECOND PART IS A WAIVER OF THE PERSONAL POLICY THAT ALLOWS THE COUNTY MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS TO REPAIR THOSE FACILITIES, AND WE DID PUT A CAP IN THE AGREEMENT.

IN THE AGREEMENT, WE GOT OUR FIRST ESTIMATE AND IT CAME IN HIGHER THAN WHAT WE EXPECTED AND OUR HOPE IS IT WILL COME IN LOWER AND WE WILL SCRUTINIZE BILLS AS THEY COME IN.

VISITORS TO REPAIR THE STATION SPIRIT RIGHT NOW NOW THEY ARE AND RENTAL FACILITIES OUTSIDE OF

THE BUILDINGS AND THIS IS TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS. >> ANY QUESTIONS?

>> HOW MUCH HIGHER? >> WITH THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT TO ANY OF YOU. I CAN TELL YOU, WE ALLOCATED $100,000 FOR JUST THE REPAIR SIDE. I WILL ALWAYS BE SHOCKED TO SEE SOMETHING COME BACK HIGHER THAN THAT. THE INITIAL ESTIMATE WAS $151,000. WE WILL GO BACK TO SCRUTINIZE THAT AND GET IT LOWER.

AT THE POINT WE DO THAT, WE HAVE TO PULL THE TRIGGER ON THE PROCESS TO GET THE FACILITIES

REPAIRED. >> SO WE GAVE YOU A CAP, I HOPE IT DOES NOT GO ABOVE THAT.

THE CURRENT MOVEMENT OF THOSE FUNDS IS BASED ON THE CURRENT MOVEMENT.

>> WHY DO WE NEED TO CIRCUMVENT THE REGULAR PROCESS? > SPEED TO GET THE PROJECT

DONE. >> IT STARTED ON SEPTEMBER 2. WE ARE EATING UP RENTAL MONEY AND THE RENTAL FACILITIES WE HAVE OUT THERE. WE HAVE HAD FIREMEN DISPLACED

AND WE WANT TO KEEP FURTHER DAMAGE FROM THE STATIONS. >> HOW MUCH TIME WILL BE GAINED

BY NOT USING THE POLICY? >> THAT WILL PROBABLY BE A PURCHASING QUESTION.

I HAVE TO LET HER SPEAK TO THAT. >> WHEN I START SEEING THINGS THAT ARE 50% OFF, MY ANTENNA

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GO AHEAD. >> SO, THE REQUESTERS IS TO WIPE THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND WAIVE THE POLICY AS IT RELATES TO THE COUNTY MANAGER'S TIME AND AGREEMENTS.

NOT ALL DESIGNS ARE BACK YET. TO HELP EXPEDITE THIS AS ONE STATION DESIGN IS COMPLETE THEN STAFF WOULD REACH OUT, TO TRY TO GET VERBAL QUOTES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION VERSUS THE FORMAL

BID PROCESS. THAT NORMALLY TAKES 30 DAYS. >> THIS IS NOT JUST A CARTE BLANCHE THAT WE WILL TAKE WHATEVER ESTIMATE COMES TO US. THIS GIVES THE COUNTY MANAGER THE ABILITY TO PROVE IT AND WE CAN GET THE BEST PRICE WE CAN GET TO EXPEDITE THE REPAIR.

>> WE ARE NOT GOING OUT FOR BIDS? >> NO.

>> EVEN THOUGH THE ESTIMATE IS 50% OFF. >> THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS HE WAS GOING. IT WASN'T JUST CALLING THE PERSON DOWN THE STREET.

>> ONE OF THE FIRST STATIONS WE LOOKED AT, TEAMING WITH A CONTRACTOR, A NATIONAL CONTRACT LIKE THE STATE CONTRACT. IN IT, THE CONTRACT WHERE THEY HAVE SET PRICES.

WE DID USE THEM FOR A COUPLE OF OUR CARES ACT PROJECTS. I KNOW THAT IS ONE OF THE QUOTES THEY WERE WAITING TO GET BACK AND CONSIDER. THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE PURCHASING POLICY. I THINK OUR CONCERN IS, WE WANT TO SEE HOW MANY LOCAL CONTRACTORS OR NORTHEAST FLORIDA CONTRACTORS OR HOW MANY CONTRACTORS THEY HAVE.

THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY NEED A WAIVER OF THE POLICY, WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT FIRST.

BUT AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE WORKLOAD, THE OTHER THREE STATIONS THAT COME ALONG, THAT

CONTRACT MAY NOT WORK FOR THEIR STATIONS. >> I THINK IT IS REALLY A TIMING ISSUE. TRYING TO GET THE BEST CALLS FOR YOU AND ALLOWING THE MANAGER TO APPROVE THE COST AND PULLING THE TRIGGER TO GET IT DONE RATHER THAN RUNNING BACK THROUGH

FINANCING AND THE BOARD. >> HOW FAST ARE YOU LOOKING TO GET QUOTES?

>> HE IS GETTING THEM AS QUICKLY AS HE GETS THE ESTIMATES IN. RIGHT NOW HE IS TRYING TO GET ONE OF THE ESTIMATES DOWN, ONE OF THE FIRST ONES CAME UP AND HE WANTS TO SCRUTINIZE AND GET SOME QUESTIONS AND GET IT DOWN TO WHERE HE BELIEVES IT SHOULD BE. THIS IS MR. PRICE, I AM TALKING

ABOUT. >> THIS STARTED IN SEPTEMBER? >> YES.

>> AND I WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY. >> WHEN YOU HAVE THE DAMAGE THAT WILL CONTINUE IN THE STATIONS, WE ARE COMING UP ON THE SUMMER MONTHS. THAT IS WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEMS BEFORE. BASICALLY IT STARTED RAINING IN THE STATIONS AND SWEATING.

WE WANT TO GET IT DONE BEFORE THE SUMMER. >> I DON'T THINK ANY OF US APPEAR WANT TO SEE FIREFIGHTERS, HAVE TO PUT UP WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TO PUT UP WITH AT THIS POINT AND TIME REPAIRS. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T KNOW IF I AM TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH, SIGNING OFF ON WHAT I JUST HEARD. IF IT WERE THE REVERSE YOU WOULD PROBABLY SAY THE SAME THING. THAT IS WHY I ASKED, HOW FAST CAN WE GET QUOTES IN.

IT MAY TAKE ONE WEEK OR THREE WEEKS AND THEN WE MEET AGAIN. WE CAN LOOK AT THE QUOTES AND MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHETHER WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD THAT FAST ANYWAY. YOU ARE STILL SCRUTINIZING AND ASKING FOR QUOTES.

I MEAN,, WE ARE APPROPRIATING $650,000? >> THAT MONEY IF YOU LOOK ON THE BACK OF THE DOCUMENTATION IT SHOWS YOU THE LINE ITEMS. MUCH OF THAT MONEY MINUS THE $100,000 FOR STATION, $400,000 IS GOING BACK TO WHERE WE SPENT ON OUR CURRENT FUNDS THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED FOR THE RENTALS AND REPAIR WORK WE HAVE ALREADY DONE.

BUT $100,000 PER STATION WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO WAIVE, WITH A CAP OF 150,000, WE ARE ONLY ASKING YOU TO WAIVE THAT PIECE OF IT TO DO THE REPAIRS TO THE FACILITIES.

THE TOTAL COST IS NOT $650,000, THAT IS JUST THE TOTAL MOVE. >> IT IS $400,000 ROUGHLY?

>> $150,000 BEING THE CAP. >> $100,000 HERE, $100,000 THERE.

>> IT IS A LOT OF MONEY BUT NOT MILLIONS, BUT THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER WAS TO GET THIS

PROJECT DONE, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO. >> I WOULD PREFER, IN THE FUTURE

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NOW WE ARE RUNNING INTO THE RAIN SEASON, AND YOU ARE TELLING US WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY.

>> AGAIN, I WILL NOT STAND UP. MAKE EXCUSES. >> CHEWING ON YOU WILL NOT --

>> KNOWING THE TIMEFRAME, WE WOULD HAVE NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD STILL BE DOING THIS.

THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO GET IT FIXED. >> WE KNOW WHAT IS WRONG, WE

JUST NEED SOMEONE TO FIX IT. , IS THAT CORRECT? >> ONCE THE MOLD IS OUT, IT IS PATCH STUFF AND PLASTIC HOLDING THINGS TOGETHER. NOW WE CAN GO IN WITH AN ENGINEER DESIGN THAT WE PAID FOR, AND IMPLEMENT THE ENGINEERED DESIGN.

CANCEL THEM REMEDIATION THAT WE HAVE DONE UP TO THIS POINT, AND THE ENGINEER HAS BEEN PAID FOR.

>> SO, THE NEXT $400,000 OR $600,000 WITH THE CAP -- >> IT GOES TOWARDS REPAIR.

THE ONLY THING WE WILL HAVE OUTSTANDING IS ENGINEERING FEES THAT WE WILL PAY FOR OUT OF OUR EXISTING FUNDS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS YOU WILL SEE WHERE WE PULLED THE MONEY OUT FOR THE COST. WE DID NOT HAVE THAT MUCH IN RENTALS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, NOR WILL WE HAVE THAT MUCH IN REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE.

WE WENT THROUGH THAT QUICKLY. >> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE, IT IS ONLY A CAP OF $150,000 PER STATION, THERE ARE FOUR STATIONS WITH FIREFIGHTERS DISPLACED AND HAVING TO BE IN RENTAL LOCATIONS, SOME THAT ARE NOT NEAR THE OTHER STATION, SO THEY HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE RESPONSE TIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE OTHER THING, WE ALL KNOW, MR. HARRIS TOLD US EARLIER, BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, LUMBER PRICES, AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE SKY HIGH. YOU CAN JUST TURN ON THE NIGHTLY NEWS OR READ THE NEWSPAPER AND SEE THAT. THAT IS WHY HE ASKED FOR THE CAP AND THEY PUT THAT IN THERE.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT, THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE ARE NOT DOING FAVORS FOR ANY CONTRACTORS. THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC FRIENDS OF WHOEVER, THE NORMAL THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAY THAT WE GIVE CONTRACTS TO. THAT IS NOT GOING ON HERE.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT COMMISSIONER BOLLA AND THAT IS WHY THE POLICY IS IN PLACE.

I THINK, I HAVE SAID MULTIPLE TIMES AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY, PUBLIC SAFETY IS OUR PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY. IN THIS CASE IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY EMPLOYEES.

>> I AM NOT QUESTIONING THE NEED. >> YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.

>> I'M QUESTIONING THE WAY WE ARE DOING IT. >> IF WE USE OUR CURRENT PURCHASING POLICY, WHAT IS THE DELAY? HOW MUCH A RE- DELAYED?

CAN WE HAVE BIDS AND BY THE NEXT MEETING? >> THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT, NOT EVERY STATION IS NOT FULLY DESIGN. WE ARE NOT GOING OUT FOR ALL FOUR AT ONE TIME. AS ONE IS COMPLETED, IF WE PUT THAT OUT TO BID, ADVERTISEMENT TIME, USUALLY LEVEL MEETING BEFORE THE BIDS ARE DUE, IT COULD TAKE UP TO 30 DAYS, BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD, COULD BE ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO WEEKS.

WE ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY 30 DAYS PLUS AND IT GIVES US TIME TO ADVERTISE IN THE NEWSPAPER, GIVE CONTRACTORS TIME TO COME LOOK ON SITE AND WE CAN DEFINITELY TRY TO SHORTEN THAT FOR THIS

PURPOSE, BUT -- >> I AM REALLY RELUCTANT TO A BID OF $150,000.

LUMBER HAS GONE UP DRYWALL HAS GONE UP, NOT THAT MUCH. NOW I AM CONFUSED ABOUT THE ENGINEERING, AS IT BEEN DONE QUITE STANCH THE ENGINEERING DESIGNS ARE STILL COMING IN.

AS THAT ESTIMATE GETS DONE, I KNOW WE RECEIVED ONE OF THEM, AS THEY COME IN THAT IS WHEN WE TAKE THEM OUT TO THE CONTRACTORS TO GET A PRICE. THAT WAS HIS ESTIMATE, AGAIN,

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I GAVE THE ESTIMATES ON $100,000 PER BUILDING. I CAN TELL YOU ON THE

CONSTRUCTION SIDE, A PIECE OF PLYWOOD IS $30 VERSUS $7. >> THE TWO BY FOURS USED TO BE

TWO HOURS OF 50-CENT. >> -- BOOKED TO BY FOURS USED TO COST $2.50.

>> JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT. WE ARE SQUABBLING OVER $150,000 --

>> $400,000. >> LAST BOARD MEETING I WAS TRYING TO DO A PROJECT THAT WAS $3.5 MILLION AND NO ONE WAS WILLING TO TALK ABOUT A CEILING OR NOT TO EXCEED.

I THINK THE FIREFIGHTERS DESERVE THIS. >> THEY WILL GET IT.

>> BUT THEY MAY NOT GET IT, BECAUSE IF WE WAIT 45 DAYS, THAT IS IF YOU CAN FIND A CONTRACTOR THAT IS WILLING TO DO $150,000 WORTH OF WORK, A LOT ARE TURNING DOWN THE WORK BECAUSE THEY CAN DO A $1.1 MILLION PROJECT. NORMALLY, I AM ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT WE DON'T VIOLATE POLICY, BUT MS. THOMAS ALSO SAID, SHE WAS NOT NECESSARILY APT TO DEVIATE FROM POLICY IF SHE CAN PIGGYBACK ON THE OTHER CONTRACT. I THINK, THE OTHER THING WE COULD DO IS APPROVE IT FOR THE ONE STATION YOU HAVE A BID BACK FROM, AND AT OUR NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS, YOU COULD COME BACK,

AND THERE IS ONLY FOUR, I WOULD HOPE, WITH THREE WEEKS, -- >> I COULD AD, YOU HAVE THE MASTER NEGOTIATING SITTING OVER THERE WHO WILL NOT LET US PAY ABSORBENT AMOUNTS, YOU KNOW.

>> WE JUST WON A NUMBER. IF IT COULD BE $100,000, THE GOAL WAS TO GET IT DONE BY JUNE.

EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN DONE THROUGH REMEDIATION, THE DESIGN, BUT DESIGN TOOK LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED BUT WE WANTED TO GET IT DONE RIGHT. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE RIGHT, WE WANTED DONE RIGHT SO IT NEVER RAINS IN THE STATION. EVEN IF THERE WAS A LOWERED DOLLAR AMOUNT, WE COULD GO FORWARD FROM THERE. IF THE BOARD WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH 150,000 WE COULD ATTEMPT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET. WE JUST WANT TO GET THIS DONE

QUICKLY AND BY JUNE. >> WHATEVER IT ENDS UP COSTING, WE WILL HAVE TO DO IT.

THAT IS CORRECT, RIGHT CLICK STANCH I WOULD -- >> IF WE COULD OFFER IT, I SAY GO FOR IT. I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH AN ESTIMATE THAT IS 50% OFF AND WE GO OUT AND WE THINK WE ARE NO -- AND WE THINK WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THIS.

THE FIREFIGHTERS DESERVE THE BEST. WHAT WILL A 30 DAY DELAY COST IN TERMS OF RATING THE FACILITIES, I GUESS THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION.

>> I DON'T HAVE -- >> IT IS NOT A SMALL AMOUNT. >> WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS IN THE STATIONS AND A WATCH FACILITY, IT IS NOT A SMALL NUMBER. I ESTIMATED IT TO GO TO THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW HOW LONG EACH ONE WOULD TAKE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BRING IT BACK IN FRONT OF YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

>> I THINK THEY HAVE TO GET DONE. AS THE COMMISSIONER INDICATED WHETHER IT IS $150,000 OR $200,000, WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE.

I AM NOT THRILLED WITH IT BUT I HAVE TRUST IN THE COUNTY MANAGER AND HE HAS A SHARP PENCIL.

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BACK? >> I THINK HE -- >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WE CAN

CALL TO GET MULTIPLE QUOTES? (OFF MICROPHONE). >> HE IS WORKING WITH SEVERAL OF

THEM. >> WE COULD DO THE INFORMAL WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY SPEED THINGS UP. IT WOULD BE THE COMPETITIVE QUOTE OVER THE PHONE, OBVIOUSLY.

WE WOULD SEND THEM THE DOCUMENTS. WE WOULD HAVE TO FORMALIZE IT IN SOME WAY AND WE COULD DO IT THAT WAY. THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SPEED THINGS UP. THAT WAY WE HAVE THE THREE COMPETITIVE BIDS AT A MINIMUM.

THEY ARE VERBAL. I CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, AND WE CAN GO FORWARD.

I THINK AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WE CAN BRIEF ON THE DECISIONS AND AT THAT TIME IF

THE BOARD WANTS TO WEIGH IN, THE BOARD COULD WEIGH IN. >> THEN WE WOULD LOSE ALL OF

THAT TIME. >> WE COULD HAVE GONE OUT FOR BIDS ALREADY AND HAD ONE READY TO GO. THE DELAY IS THE CONSTRAINT. THE BOTTLENECK CONSTRAINT.

THE FIRST ONE CAME IN FOR 23, I I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE EXPECTED THAT ONE TO COME IN.

ONCE YOU GOT IT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO FOR A BID WITHOUT THE DESIGN.

THAT IS WHY IT IS A MOVING TARGET. IT IS HARD TO SAY WHAT THE DELAY WOULD BE PURE IF IT PLEASES THE BOARD, WE CAN DO THE INFORMAL ROUTE AND I WILL DEFINITELY COME

BACK TO THE BOARD AND BRIEF THEM ON WHERE WE STAND. >> SO, WE MAY NOT HAVE TO WORRY

ABOUT IT IF ENGINEERNG DOES NOT COME IN? >> WE HAVE HAD ONE COME IN.

>> COUNTY MANAGER SUGGESTED, WHAT IF WE LOWERED THE CAP FOR HIM TO AGREE ON IT.

ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU SAID? >> I WOULD SAY IF I DID THAT, I WOULD DO IT WITH A POOL OF MONEY. IF IT IS $100 LESS THAN THAT, YOU CAN'T START THE PROJECT.

THE FIRST ONE CAME IN AT 151,000. WHAT IF WE GET $10,000 LESS.

IF WE SAY $100,000 PER STATION, ARE YOU GIVING HIM A PIECE OF MONEY TO WORK WITH TO GET THE PROJECT DONE? MAKE SURE YOU FRAME IT THAT WAY. THE FIRST PART OF THIS, IS THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET. THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT REQUESTS

THERE. >> IT IS JUST BEYOND ME, LAST MEETING WE APPROVED A DESIGN FOR $198,000. JUST A DESIGN. NOT BUILDING ANYTHING.

NOW IF CONSTRUCTION COSTS COME IN, $100,000, WAS A GUEST BY YOU, AN EDUCATED GUESS.

>> IT WAS. BEING AROUND WHEN THE FACILITY WAS BUILT, I WOULD SAY THAT FACILITY DID NOT COME AROUND TO $100,000 WHEN IT WAS NEW. THE BEST YOU CAN DO IS GUESSTIMATE WITH THE COST OF MATERIALS. IT IS A REAL THING, GETTING SOMEONE TO DO IT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE RIGHT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE. I'M NOT DOUBTING ANYONE IN THE PAST BUT WE DON'T WANT TO THROW

GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD MONEY. WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE RIGHT. >> I AGREE, SPENDING THIS TIME, WE HAVE THE COUNTY MANAGER THAT WE TRUST. WE KNOW HE WILL DO THE RIGHT JOB. WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE LOOKING OUT FOR THE COUNTY.

I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM, I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE IT. >> IS THAT A MOTION CLICK STANCH

THAT IS A MOTION. >> DO YOU WANT TO PUT ANY CAPS ON THAT?

>> LETS CAP IT AT $140,000 PER STATION. $10,000 SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD

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NUMBER. >> SO IT SHOULD BE A TOTAL OF 560,000.

>> I THINK THE INFORMAL PROCESS IS A GOOD ONE. THE MISS MS. THOMAS RECOMMENDED.

IT IS YOUR MOTION. >> DO I NEED TO ADD THAT IN. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THE

INFORMAL PROCESS, THAT IS CORRECT. >> I SUGGEST WE LOOK AT THE INFORMAL PROCESS THAT WOULD HELP GETTING THE QUOTES BACK AND WE CAN REACH OUT TO MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS. WE CAN REPORT THAT BACK TO YOU. WE DO THAT WITH THE SHIP REHAB PROJECTS, THEY ARE NOT THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT BUT THIS IS HOW WE HANDLED THOSE PROJECTS.

>> ENGINEERING WOULD HAVE HAD TO COME BACK BY THAT TIME ANYWAY FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER TO

APPROVE. >> THAT IS OUR HOPE. >> I CANNOT MAKE THEM DO IT.

>> THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE AN ENGINEERING PROCESS ON, TRIED THE INFORMAL BID PROCESS, SEE WHAT IT COMES BACK AS, AND NO ONE IS GETTING RICH OFF OF THIS, THEY WILL SPEND MOST OF THE MONEY AND MATERIALS. FROM WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT TWO BY FOURS AND THE CHEAP SUPPLIES. WHAT IF WE JUST DID IT FOR THE ONE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW

QUICKLY YOU THINK YOU WILL GET THE OTHERS BACK. >> THE MANAGER HAS BEEN -- HE

HAS PUT THE STAKED OUT TO GET IT DONE. >> IT WON'T HAPPEN UNLESS THEY COME BACK. YOU HAVE ONE TO WORK WITH. I WILL SECOND THE MOTION.

>> DISCUSSION. >> AM I CORRECT, PRELIMINARY BID IS $150,000?

>> THAT CAME BACK ON ONE STATION. >> THAT IS THE CLOSEST THINGS TO

THE BUILDING AS A COMMERCIAL STYLE TYPE BUILDING. >> THE CAP WAS $140,000.

IF WE CANNOT GET A BIT DOWN TO $140,000, WE ARE ALL STOPPED AND WE WILL LOSE THREE WEEKS, THEN

WE ARE BACK TO WAITING UNTIL APRIL 13 TO RETHINK THE PROBLEM. >> WHICH IS WHAT WE WILL DO

ALREADY. >> I THINK WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WE CAN GO FORWARD AND FOUR WEEKS LATER, OR SIX WEEKS LATER, IT CAN BE EXPEDITED, WE HAVE A FORMAL BID AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE POLICY TO MOVE FORWARD. ALL I AM SAYING, 140,000, IF THEY DON'T COME BACK WITH $140,000 OR LESS WE ARE STOPPED FOR THREE WEEKS.

NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. >> THEY COULD GET BACK, IF THEY GOT BACK BIDS, IF SHE PUT THEM

OUT TOMORROW, THAT IS THE 24TH >> YOU ARE ONLY PUTTING THAT ONE OUT.

YOU WOULD HAVE BIDS BACKED BY, THEY WOULD HAVE UNTIL APRIL 21ST, AND WE DO NOT MEET AGAIN AFTER THAT UNTIL MAY, 11. THAT IS WHAT SHE IS SAYING ABOUT YOU WILL LOSE SEVEN WEEKS.

>> LET'S HAVE A SEPARATE MEETING. >> WHAT I AM SAYING, IF WE DO

NOT GET A BID UNDER $140,000, WE ARE PAST THAT DATE. >> I UNDERSTAND, THE CAP IS AN ISSUE BUT THE CHIEF DID SAID -- SAINT THERE ARE -- THE CHIEF DID SAY --

>> HE WILL GO DOWN TO EVERY DIME TO GET RID OF THAT STUFF. >> THE PROBLEM IS, WE ONLY HAVE ONE ENGINEERING DESIGNED TO PUT UP A BID. WE PUT THAT UP AND IT TAKES 30-45 DAYS TO COME BACK. WE WILL HAVE TO DO THAT FOR OTHER TIMES.

THAT COULD DEFINITELY PUT US OUT UNTIL JUNE. IF IT TAKES 45 DAYS EACH TIME.

ONCE YOU GET THE BID, THERE IS A QUESTION OF SCHEDULING AND THE CONTRACTORS DROPPING EVERYTHING.

HE WILL HAVE A RAMP UP TIME BEFORE HE GETS IN THERE. AFTER THE BID IS APPROVED, THERE IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THE CONTRACTOR WILL TAKE BEFORE THEY START.

I THINK THE CHIEF HAD A GOOD IDEA AT GETTING THE POOL OF MONEY TO WORK WITH.

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WE GO OUT AND GET MULTIPLE VERBAL BIDS AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AFTER THAT.

THEN IF EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE, WE CAN REPEAT THAT PROCESS. IF NOT, WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL WE GET THE OTHER DESIGNS BEFORE WE PUT THEM OUT. I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE MOVING

FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION. AT LEAST WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. >> I WILL WITHDRAW MY SECOND

FROM THE FIRST MOTION AND I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION. >> I WILL RESTATE IT.

>> I FELT LIKE WE WERE AT A DEADLOCK. I JUST WANTED TO HELP DO

SOMETHING. >> WE HAVE ONE ENGINEERING DESIGN DONE.

WE HAVE A BID. >> WE JUST HAD A BID WHICH WAS 50% DIFFERENT.

WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE MARKETPLACE HOLDS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE BID.

SO, WE GET THE SECOND OR 3RD AND WE GET THE COUNTY MANAGER AN OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE AND GET STARTED AND BY THAT TIME WE WILL BE IN A SITUATION WHERE IF WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, WE CAN DO THAT IN A SPECIAL MEETING WHETHER IT IS FINANCE AND WE WILL HAVE AN INDICATION WHETHER THAT IS A PROCESS THAT WILL WORK AND SATISFY EVERYONE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PAYING WHAT WE SHOULD PAY TO GET THE FIREFIGHTERS BACK INTO THE FIREHOUSE.

>> I MADE THE MOTION THAT WE WOULD GET AT LEAST TWO MORE INFORMAL BIDS ON THE CURRENT ENGINEERING DESIGN THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT WE WOULD EVALUATE, EITHER AT A SPECIAL MEETING OR

FINANCE AND AUDIT ON APRIL 6. >> THAT GIVES THE COUNTY MANAGERS THE ABILITY TO MOVE

FORWARD. >> IN THAT SITUATION, IT WILL TAKE HER ONE WEEK TO GET THAT.

THEN WE NEED TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING. I THINK, TO SATISFY THE PURCHASING POLICY, DURING THE INFORMAL THING, TWO WEEKS WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE SCHEME OF WAITING PERIOD IF THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE ALL OF THE BIDS COME IN AND THEY ARE WITHIN A FEW DOLLARS OF EACH OTHER, THE COUNTY MANAGER COULD CALL A SPECIAL MEETING, NEXT WEEK, ON MARCH 30, AND WE COULD, DIRECT TUBAL FORWARD AND BY THAT POINT WE WOULD HAVE THE OTHER ENGINEERING DESIGNS BACK AND WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE US TAKE WHAT HE FIVE DAYS OF THE FORMAL BID PROCESS, TO COME TO WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT.

I THINK IT IS A VALID POINT THAT WE HAD A BID COME IN TWICE AS MUCH AS THE OTHER BID.

>> I THINK YOU HAD A BID COME IN LESS THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.

IF YOU HAD SOMETHING LIKE THAT COME IN IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO EXECUTE THE JOB CORRECTLY. THAT IS WHERE INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO MAKE THE CALL TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE RIGHT. I CAN BID THAT DOOR RIGHT THERE THREE DIFFERENT WAYS BUT IT WILL

LOOK THE SAME BUT IT IS NOT THE SAME DOOR. >> I AM GOING TO SUPPORT ONLY GOING WITH THE POLICY THAT WE GO WITH THE PURCHASING POLICY. THIS IS STUPID.

WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, THAT WOULD SPEED THE PROCESS UP BY 20 DAYS. I AM HERE. I WORK HERE.

BUT THE PURCHASING POLICY WILL TAKE 30 DAYS TO EXECUTE. BY THE TIME WE ARE DONE ARGUING THIS, IT WILL TAKE THREE WEEKS TO DO THE OTHER PROCESS. THEN WE WILL FOLLOW-UP.

THERE IS NO EXPOSURE TO LIABILITY ON MY PART WHICH I AM CONCERNED ABOUT.

YOU ARE A GREAT GUY, BUT I DON'T KNOW. WE WILL GET THE BEST POSSIBLE PRICE THERE IS BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE THREE BIDS COME IN. THAT WILL BE IT.

NO FOOLING AROUND AFTER THAT. >> THAT IS FOR ONE STATION. >> DO IT ON ALL OF THE STATIONS.

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>> YOU CAN'T UNTIL THE ENGINEERING IS DONE. >> THIS IS NOW AN EMERGENCY.

>> DO WE NOT HAVE A PURCHASING POLICY ON ENGINEERING DESIGNS? AT THE LAST MEETING WE JUST GAVE IT TO WTI AND WE ARE PAYING $198,000 FOR A DESIGN. (OFF MICROPHONE).

>> ONE OF THE FIRMS WAS AWARDED CONTINUING ARCHITECT SERVICES. THEY ISSUED WORK ORDERS ON THAT.

THIS WAS A WORK ORDER FOR THEM, IT DID LIST TIME FRAMES. IT DID STIPULATE WHEN THEY WERE TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE STATION PROJECTS. I KNOW MR. PRICE HAS BEEN AFTER

THEM,. >> IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE ARE PAYING MORE FOR DESIGN THAN CONSTRUCTION. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SCHEME OF THINGS WITH TAXPAYERS DOLLARS, MAYBE WE NEED TO PULL OUR CONTRACT FOR DESIGN AND PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR BID.

>> THAT IS PROBABLY WHAT GOT US IN THIS POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THE BUILDINGS WERE NEVER DESIGN. THEY WERE NOT ACTUALLY ENGINEERED TO CARRY THE AMOUNT OF THINGS THEY ARE CARRYING. AT THIS POINT, YOU PAY THESE PEOPLE TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I KID YOU, DESIGN IS EXPENSIVE AND AGGRAVATING TO PLAY BUT HOPEFULLY THEY PUT THEIR STAMP ON IT AND IT WILL BE DONE THE RIGHT WAY VERSUS US COMING UP

WITH WHAT WE THINK NEEDS TO BE DONE TO FIX IT. >> I WAS NOT SUGGESTING THAT.

I WAS JUST SUGGESTING -- >> SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTINUING CONTRACT, YOU ARE NOT

HUNGRY. >> READY, FIRE, AIM. >> THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING.

I AM SAYING WE ARE NOT CONSISTENT FROM MEETING TO MEETING ERIC THIS IS SMALL

DOLLARS AND WE HAVE ARGUED FOR 30 MINUTES. >> COMMISSIONER YOU HAVE A MOTION. EITHER WE LOOK FOR A SECOND OR WITHDRAWAL WITHDRAW.

>> I HAVE A MOTION. >> I WILL REPEAT MY MOTION. MY MOTION WAS TO DIRECT COUNTY MANAGER, PURCHASE DEPARTMENT TO GET TWO ADDITIONAL VERBAL BIDS TO COMPLY WITH THE INFORMAL PURCHASING POLICY, AND COME BACK TO EITHER A SPECIAL MEETING, OR HOPEFULLY NOT THE REGULAR BOARD

MEETING ON THE 13TH. >> IN OTHER WORDS, WE GIVE PURCHASING THE DIRECTION TO GO OUT AND GET TWO MORE INFORMAL VERBAL BIDS. (OFF MICROPHONE).

>> YOU ARE RECOMMENDING WE FOLLOW THE INFORMAL PROCESS TO HELP EXPEDITE IT.

AT THIS POINT WE WOULD NOT EXERCISE WHAT OUR ORIGINAL REQUESTER OF THE COUNTY MANAGER SIGN YOU PREFER IT COME BACK AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING OR A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING IF

NECESSARY? >> I THINK I PREFER A SPECIAL MEETING.

WE HAVE THREE WEEKS UNTIL THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. TO THE COMMISSIONERS POINT WE

ARE ALL HERE, WE WORK HERE. >> LET'S SEE HOW QUICKLY WE CAN GET THE THREE COMPANIES TO REVIEW THE PLANS. I WILL WORK WITH LEGAL TO DRAFT THE CONTRACT AND GET THAT PREPARED AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE AND SEE IF IT WARRANTS A SPECIAL MEETING OR NOT.

>> THAT IS MY MOTION. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE OF POLICY, WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE

AN EXTRA MEETING. >> I THINK THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD WARRANT THE DOLLAR POLICY.

>> WE ONLY HAVE THE ONE. I WILL ADD ON TO MY MOTION. IF YOU RECEIVED ENGINEERING DRAWINGS ON ANY OF THE ENGINEERING STATIONS BEFORE WE COME BACK TO REVIEW THAT ONE, IF

YOU HAVE TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS ON THOSE TOO. >> I SECOND.

>> ATTORNEY, DO WE NEED A SPECIAL NOTIFICATION? >> WE JUST NEED TO GET IT OUT

[03:15:14]

THERE, THREE DAYS BEFORE AND JUST COME UP WITH A DATE. >> FINANCE AND AUDIT IS APRIL 6.

WE COULD ADVERTISE, WE COULD HAVE THE FINANCE AND AUDIT MEETING AND HAVE A SPECIAL

MEETING AFTER THAT. >> OR SET IT FOR AFTER SHE GETS THE BID CLOSING.

IF YOU WANT TO EXPEDITE THAT. >> WE NEED THREE DAY NOTICE FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING.

>> AFTER WE KNOW WHAT THE BID CLOSING IN SPIRIT WE CLOSE THE BIDS AT A CERTAIN DAY.

>> THAT IS FINE. >> YOU KNOW THAT 30 DAYS AHEAD. >> THERE IS NO SENSE IN ESTABLISHING A MEETING BUT IF IT WORKS OUT WE CAN GO TO A SPECIAL MEETING RIGHT AFTER THAT IF IT WORKED OUT. WE HAVE THE MOTION, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS.

WE HAVE A SECOND PERIOD THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION COLLECTS IF NOT, LET'S VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY TRIP -- ANY OPPOSED?

IT CARRIES 4-1 AND EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE GOING. >> (OFF MICROPHONE).

>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGET TRANSFERS AS HE STATED THEM.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, THE MOTION CARRIES

5-0. YOU ARE STILL HERE RICH? >> HE WAS DUCKING.

[19.  Budget Transfer from Reserves - Overtime Costs Due to COVID-19 (R. Kantor/D. Motes)]

NAPTIME. >> DUCK AND COVER. >> NUMBER 19.

THIS REQUIRES A TRANSFER FROM RESERVES FOR OVERTIME COSTS DUE TO THE COVID RESPONSE.

>> THIS IS A'S SIMILAR TO THE FIRE RESCUE THAT WE DID BEFORE THIS IS IN THE ADMIN COLUMN WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF THAT BEING COMMUNICATIONS OVERTIME COSTS RELATIVE TO THE MANPOWER NEEDED

FOR THE COVID-19. >> QUESTIONS? IF NOT MOTIONS?

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> ANY DISCUSSION COLLECTS ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

[20.  Interlocal Agreement between Clay County and the Clay County Utility Authority Re: Road Work and Utility Relocation Work for the Improvement of County Road 218 (E. Dendor)]

LOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLAY COUNTY AND CLAY COUNTY UTILITY. >> SORRY FOR THE LONG WALK.

GOOD EVENING, TO THE BOARD AND CHAIR, I AM THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR.

IN FRONT OF YOU IS AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CLAY COUNTY AND THE CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY. THIS IS PROJECT NUMBER ONE ON COUNTY ROAD 218.

THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO OUR WORK IN THE SAME FOOTPRINT TOGETHER.

THIS DOES NOT COST THE COUNTY ANY MONEY. CLAY COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY WILL ACTUALLY PAY THE COUNTY 30 DAYS AFTER YOU HAVE A NOTICE TO PROCEED TO INCLUDE THIS WORK

INTO OUR PROJECT. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ED ON THIS?

MOVE FOR APPROVAL. DO I HAVE A SECOND PERIOD. >> SECOND PERIOD.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, IT CARRIES 5-0.

[21.  Interlocal Agreement between Clay County and the Clay County Utility Authority Re: Road Work and Utility Work for the Improvement of Aquarius Concourse (R. Smith)]

COUNTY UTILITY AUTHORITY. >> RICHARD SMITH. SAME AS WHAT ED SAID.

IT IS JUST ON THE AQUARIUS CONCOURSE. IT ALLOWS US TO WORK FROM THE

SAME TRENCH. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND PERIOD.

>> ANY DISCUSSIONS. ALL A FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED IT CARRIES 5-0.

>> WE WILL GET TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS. I DON'T SEE ANY CONSTITUTIONAL

[03:20:07]

COUNTY MANAGER? >> YOU SKIP COUNTY ATTORNEY. >> I'M SORRY, COUNTY ATTORNEY

[COUNTY MANAGER]

COLLECTS. >> TO ITEMS FOR THE BOARD. CONCURRENCE HAS BEEN SET FOR THE

29TH OF APRIL AT 3:30 P.M. TO HAVE THE WORKSHOP. >> WHAT IS THE DATE?

>> APRIL 29 AT 3:30 P.M. THE SECOND THING I HAD, IT IS IN YOUR BACKUP, YOU HAVE A FLYER FOR AMERICAN FLOOD COALITION. WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN AFC.

THEY ARE A NONPARTISAN COALITION THAT ADVOCATES FOR COALITION AND FLOODING.

THEY ARE NONPROFIT 501. THE MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES, 20 MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, 71 CITIES AND COUNTIES, 100 ELECTED OFFICIALS, SIX MILITARY LEADERS, 40 BUSINESS AND SIX OF LEADERS.

CURRENTLY WITH FLORIDA, VOLUSIA AND BROWARD ARE ONLY CURRENTLY MEMBERS.

SOME OF THE OTHERS ARE MUNICIPAL MEMBERS. THE AMERICAN FLOOD COALITION, THERE ARE NO COSTS TO JOIN, NO LEGAL OBLIGATIONS. WE ARE FREE TO WITHDRAW AT ANY POINT. AGAIN, THE ONE PAGE WAS PRESENTED THERE.

IN ORDER TO BECOME A MEMBER, I WOULD NEED TO GET A RESOLUTION WHICH I WOULD GET AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, AND A LETTER SIGNED TO BECOME A MEMBER. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM SPECIFICALLY AND WE HAVE HAD E-MAILS AND EXCHANGES. ONE, AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD TO CHOOSE IT COULD BE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD HERE, OR FROM THE STAFF.

IN FROM THE STAFF I WOULD RECOMMEND CHARLIE TO BE THE REPRESENTATIVE ERIC PENDING ANY

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. I WOULD ASK TO GET CONCURRENCE. >> WHAT IS THE BENEFIT FOR US

DOING THAT? >> ONE VOICE. THE FACT USES THEM A LOT.

THEY ADDRESS BUT ADDRESS BUT RESILIENCY ISSUES WITHIN MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES.

THE ONES ALONG THE COAST ARE INTERESTED. I FELT THIS WAS A VERY GOOD ORGANIZATION TO REALLY BE PART OF TO HELP US IN INFRASTRUCTURE GRANTS.

TO GET US THE INSIDE SCOOP, FOR APPLYING AND MAKING SURE WE ARE ON THE FOREFRONT AND THE

NOTIFICATIONS TO MONITOR THIS AND KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. >> I SAW A MAP THAT ADD A LOT OF

RED STUFF. >> I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA AND PROVIDES US WITH RESOURCES

IN AN AREA, THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE HAD FUTURE PROBLEMS. >> AS LONG AS SOMEONE ELSE WILL

GO TO THE MEETINGS, THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. >> THAT LOOKS GOOD FOR YOU

CHARLIE. >> NOBODY BETTER FOR US TO REPRESENT THAN CHARLIE.

THAT IS FOR SURE. >> I WILL GET THE LETTER AND RESOLUTION TOGETHER, WE WILL BE PART OF IT. THEY DO HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING AND WE WILL

GET IN ON THOSE AND COME BACK TO THE BOARD AND BRIEF THEM. >> EXCELLENT.

ANYTHING ELSE COLLECTS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNTY MANAGER AT THIS TIME?

[28.  Challenge Enterprises Thank You]

>> LET'S MOVE ON TO THE LETTERS OF DOCUMENTATIONS. A NICE NOTE FROM CHALLENGE

[29.  Clay County Historic Preservation Board January 2021 Minutes]

[PUBLIC COMMENTS]

ANYONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS CAN SPEAK AT THIS TIME. >> FRANK CLARK, I JUST WANTED TO STICK AROUND TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND WE

LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON THE 13TH. >> YOU GET BONUS POINTS JUST FOR

BEING HERE. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.

[COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

[03:25:03]

>> I AM JUST EXCITED ABOUT THE FAIR IN MY DISTRICT. >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE. THE VIETNAM VETERANS DAY CEREMONY THIS SATURDAY AT 10:00 A.M., THE CLERK WILL BE THERE, I WILL BE THERE. I WOULD LOVE FOR EVERYONE TO SHOW UP AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT. VIETNAM VETERANS, THEY ARE THE GROUP THAT DIDN'T REALLY GET A WELCOMING ON THEIR HOMECOMING. WE ARE TRYING TO PAY BACK FOR THE WRONG WE HAVE DONE MANY YEARS AGO. ANYWAY, THE LAST THING I HAVE, I AM STILL WORKING THE MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, HELEN DESIGNED THE FLAG, THAT IS GOING VERY WELL. I HAVE RECEIVED COMMITMENTS TO SUPPORT THE PURCHASE OF THE SIGN AS WELL AS THE ASSOCIATION NAVAL AC -- AVIATION ANYWAY, THEY HAVE COMMITTED FUNDS TO THE PROJECT AS WELL. I AM SURE THE MEMORIAL, WILL PROVIDE FUNDS AS WELL. THAT IS PLANNED FOR SEPTEMBER. IT SHOULD BE A REALLY GOOD CELEBRATION, I WILL LOOK AT THE NAVY BAND PERFORMING THERE. A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS.

IT SHOULD BE A GOOD THING. I THINK IT IS SEPTEMBER 17. >> COMMISSIONER.

>> I WENT TO THE MEETING YESTERDAY AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE GRADING SYSTEM THEY PERFECTED IN CLAY COUNTY AND I'M WONDERING WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, I THOUGHT THERE WERE SOME

RUMBLINGS THAT WE MAY ADOPT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> SR, I WAS GOING TO BRING THAT TO THE BOARD. I WAS INCLUDED IN A BRIEFING ON THAT.

IT IS CRI. WHAT WAS THE ACRONYM FOR THE COMPANY? IT WAS KCI. IT IS A WAY TO ANALYZE THE WITH. A REALLY NEAT SYSTEM AND I DON'T MEAN TO STEAL YOUR THUNDER COMMISSIONER BOLLA, BUT IT IS A GRAPHIC, YOU CLICK ON IT, AND IT WILL BRING UP THAT AREA. THERE IS A LOT OF TALK ON THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD.

THERE'S NO ISSUES WITH THE LENGTH OF THE ROAD. IT COULD BE A QUARTER OF A MILE LONG AND THEY WILL STILL ANALYZE IT. THEY TELL EXACTLY WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE ROAD. AT THE BOTTOM, WHEN YOU ACCESS IT, THERE IS A PICTURE.

IT IS THERE, IT IS CAPTURED. WE CAN RANK THE ROADS, WE CAN COMPARE THAT WITH WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. WE ARE FINALIZING THE CONTRACT" ON THAT.

I THINK IT WAS 35,000, ENOUGH FOR ME TOO MOVE FORWARD, I FELT LIKE I HAD ALREADY HAD

CONSENSUS, SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. >> THANK YOU.

THANK YOU RICHARD. AND I THINK THE BEST PART IS ONCE YOU GET USED TO IT YOU ONLY FIX A QUARTER OF THE MILE YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPAVE ALL JUST THE PART BROKEN AND THAT SAVES

YOU A FORTUNE. >> GOOD JOB, THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> ON THAT SAME VEIN, ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE TALKED TO THE DIRECTOR ABOUT, AND OVERALL PLAN, I LIKE TO USE THE WORD PLAN AND I LIKE TO HAVE A PLAN. I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER, WHEN I'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT RICHARD HAS BROUGHT IN, SOME COUNTIES, OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE SET FORTH PLANS. THEY SAY WE WILL HAVE A TEN YEAR PLAN. ST. JOHNS COUNTY HAD A TEN YEAR PLAN TO UNPAVED THERE -- DO THEIR UNPAVED ROADS. PAVING DID NOT MEAN THE SAME THING IN EVERY AREA.

WE HAVE ROADS THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO EVER BE PAVED, BECAUSE PEOPLE RIDE HORSES ON THEM BUT THEY MAY NEED BETTER DRAINAGE OR SOME TYPE OF MATERIAL BECAUSE WE ARE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON GRADING. I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS ABOUT GREATER SPIRIT WON OF THE COMPLAINTS PUBLIC WORKS SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS I HEAR IS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GREATER SPIRIT

[03:30:03]

SO THEY CAN RUIN A ROAD AND WE ARE SPENDING MORE MONEY IN THAT VEIN.

I WOULD LIKE IT IF AFTER WE HAVE THE ASSESSMENT DONE WE COME UP WITH A PLAN SO WE CAN GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE WILL ONLY PAY HALF OF THE MILLION AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SAY I HAVE BEEN ON THE LIST FOR 30 YEARS AND I'M NOT GETTING OFF. I KNOW THAT IS NOT OKAY WHEN WE ARE DEVELOPING THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY. THE OTHER THING THAT IS EXCITING, ON FRIDAY YOU PROBABLY GOT INVITED, ON FRIDAY AT 10:00 A.M., BEHIND THE ANIMAL CONTROL BUILDING IS THE PICKUP FOR THE BLACK CREEK PIPELINE. THE LONG-AWAITED, THIS IS THE PILOT PROJECT TO REMOVE THE -- EPA WOULD NOT APPROVE THE COLOR CHANGE AND CLASSIFICATIONS.

SO IT WILL NOT BE CLASSIFIED AS A DARK WATER LAKE. IT WILL REMAIN A CLEARWAER LAKE ON THE REGISTRY AND THE PILOT PROJECT, IS A GOOD SENSE THAT IT WILL WORK, AND THEY WILL HAVE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND LATE SUMMER TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THE PIPELINE ITSELF.

SO, IT IS VERY EXCITING FOR THE LAKES AS THEY ARE STARTING TO DROP AGAIN.

THAT IS 10:00 A.M. ON FRIDAY IF YOU CAN MAKE IT. >> JUST WORD ON THE VIETNAM VET CEREMONY ON SATURDAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST A VETERAN TO COME.

WE INVITE ALL VETERANS TO PARTICIPATE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE EVENT LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, AND IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF COVID AND IT WAS CANCELED.

IT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL TO SEE THESE BEDS, AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, THEY WERE APPRECIATED AND IT WAS SOMETHING TO SEE. IF YOU ARE AVAILABLE, CERTAINLY COME DOWN.

I WILL BE THERE MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS WILL BE THERE. IT IS GREAT TO SEE THE VETERANS OUT THERE. A LOT OF THEM WERE HERE EARLIER IN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU KAREN AND KIM AND THE VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE FOR PUTTING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER.

I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING, ONE THING I MENTIONED, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, DEVELOPING SOME STANDING RULES FOR THE BOARD. WE WENT BACK IN THE ARCHIVES AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOUND A SET OF RULES THAT WERE ADOPTED IN 2007.

WE WENT THROUGH AND USE THOSE AS A BASIS TO GET STARTED, MADE SOME UPDATES BASED ON WHAT WE DO NOW AS COMPARED TO WHAT THEY DID THEN. WE WILL GET A COPY AT SOME POINT AND WE WILL DISCUSS IT AT THE MEETING COMING UP IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

THAT WILL GIVE YOU TIME TO LOOK IT OVER AND DISCUSS IT. IF WE SEE CHANGES WE WILL MAKE THEM AND MOVE FORWARD TO ADOPTING IT AT SOME POINT, AT THE END OF APRIL BEGINNING OF MAY WHEN EVERYONE IS COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE HAVE. I THINK AT FIRST GLANCE, BASED ON WHAT WE ARE CURRENTLY DOING WHICH IS IN SOME CASES DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY DID, IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS EVOLVED AND BECAUSE WE DO IT THIS WAY WE SHOULD WRITE IT DOWN THAT'S ALL WE DO THINGS. SO, LOOK AT THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, WE HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THANKS TO STOP BRINGING IN THEIR. AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR COMMISSIONERS AND THE PEOPLE TAKING MINUTES. WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT TIME.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.