Mar 02, 2021 Planning Commission

[Call to Order]

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>> WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 2. 2021.

BEFORE WE BEGIN, OUR MEETING HERE, ASK EVERYBODY WOULD STAND

[Pledge of Allegiance]

>> ABSOLUTELY.> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE U.S. OF AMERICA. TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU.

>> LET ME START WITH INTRODUCTIONS.

EVERYBODY THAT I SEE HERE TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS RALPH PUCKHABER, THE CHAIRMAN FOR THE SHARE OF THE COMMISSION. STARTING OVER YEAR, IN THE AUDIENCE IS CHRISTINE. OUR RECORDING SECRETARY.

AT THE END IS LEHMAN, CLAY COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR. COMMISSIONER DAVIS, COMMISSIONER HOWARD. VICE CHAIR MARY BRIDGMAN.

TO MY LEFT MICHAEL BOURRE. REPRESENTING WE HAVE LIEUTENANT COLONEL, RYAN LEONARD. WE HAVE JAMES REPRESENTS THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD. WE ALSO HAVE COURTNEY, OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY. CHARISSE STEWART, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO EVERYBODY IF YOU WANT TO STAND UP FOR JUST A SECOND. THIS IS MIKE BROWN.

OUR NEW CHIEF OF ZONING. WHO WAS RECENTLY COME IN TO REPLACE OUR PREVIOUS ZONING CHIEF WHO WE UNFORTUNATELY LOST. WHO ELSE IS HERE TONIGHT.

WE HAVE KELLY COLLINS, ASSISTANT IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THINK THAT IS EVERYBODY.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST WE APPRECIATE THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEING HERE. KEVIN, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY BEHAVES AND PROTECTS US TONIGHT.

THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

THE DECISIONS MADE BY THIS BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE FINAL SAY AT A MEETING LATER THIS MONTH.

WE WILL GIVE YOU EXACT DATES AS WE GO THROUGH THE ITEMS. THE ZONING PORTION OF THE MEETING CAN BE HELD AT ANY TIME DURING THE MEETING. SO IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING YOU'LL HAVE TO BE THERE.

THEY CHANGED THEIR TIME. >> THEY START AT 4:00. AT 5:00.

>> OKAY. ANY ITEM THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK TO, PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU GET CALLED AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. WITH THAT I WILL MOVE TO

[1.  Approval of Minutes]

>> MAKE A SECOND. >> MOTION BY MARY AND MICHAEL.

NO DISCUSSION, SAY I. OPPOSED.

THEY ARE APPROVED. WITH THAT MOVING TO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND PUBLIC HEARINGS. THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT IS A GENERAL COMMENT. ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE PERTINENT TO THIS BOARD BUT NOT SPECIFIC TO ANY OF THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THAT WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND CLOSE IT.

[1.  Public Hearing to Amend FLU Policy 1.4.8 to add institutional uses and to exempt certain existing parcels from the requirements.]

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DO YOU HAVE THIS ONE? >> YES, SIR.

A SIMPLE CHANGE. AS IT READS NOW, IF THE PARCEL BETWEEN TWO COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL, DESCRIBED AS A LOT TO BE CHANGED COMMERCIAL OR SIMPLY ADDING INSTITUTIONAL. IN HOSPITAL AND COMMERCIAL THAT IS ALSO IN FILE. WE BELIEVE INSTITUTIONAL SOMETHING WHICH HAS THE SAME CHARACTERISTICS AS FAR AS DENSITY AS COMMERCIAL. INDUSTRIAL.IMPLY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. STILL BE DEFINED AS URBAN IN FILE. SECOND CHANGE, EXEMPT PARCEL WITH TWO OR MORE LAND USES FROM THE CRITERIA.

CRITERIA SAY IT HAS TO BE OVER 10 ACRES.

WHAT ENDS UP, DISCOURAGES REDEFINING THEIR LAND USE, DISCOURAGES PLAN FOR THOSE PARCELS.

WILL NOT RESULT IN ADDITIONAL STRIP DEVELOPMENT, PART OF THE ONE THAT FRONTS THE ROAD OBVIOUSLY ALREADY HAS COMMERCIAL. THE CHANGE AGAIN, THE SUBSECTION DOES NOT APPLY TO THOSE SINGLE PARCELS.

IF YOU ALREADY HAVE TWO ABUSES, EXEMPT FROM THE POLICIES.

AN EXAMPLE ON HIGHWAY 17, IS YOU CAN SEE PARCELS HERE, LIKE THIS AREA WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO COMMERCIAL EVEN THOUGH HALF IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL. SAME WITH BACTERIA.

REALLY IS INFREQUENT. WE HAVE TO POINT OUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE HAD TWO THAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED.

WE KIND OF IGNORED THIS POLICY BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN. RENTERS PROPERTY MORE OR LESS CUT IN HALF. IF YOU WANT TO DO COMMERCIAL, ALLOWED TO CHANGE THAT LAND-USE TO COMMERCIAL.

TWO OR MORE LAND USES NATIONS, ONE OF WHICH COMMERCIAL.ERY LIMITED. PARCELS ALONG 17 THAT ALREADY HAVE COMMERCIAL FRONTING. THE PARCEL COULD BE COMMERCIAL.

SIMPLY TO UNIFY IT. ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE LAND-USE CATEGORY. MANDATED THE MAP THEY DREW A LINE, I THINK 500 FEET. IT CUTS IN HALF.

WE HAVE HAD TWO IN THE LAST YEAR.

BETTER TO CLEAN UP THE POLICIES SO WE DON'T KEEP VIOLATING IT WHEN WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR SUCH A USE.

RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> THANK YOU.NY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAVE ONE.

PUT THAT MAP BACK UP. IT MIGHT BE THE WAY THE MAP IS DRAWN. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A CORNER OF THE PARCEL THAT HAS COMMERCIAL ON IT.

SO THAT ENTIRE PARCEL COULD GO COMMERCIAL.

>> THREE LIKELY. >> TALKING ABOUT THAT AUTOMATIC

IS STILL HALF TO APPLY. >> STILL HAVE TO APPLY.

>> THAT IS ALL. ANYONE ELSE? OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM.

I DON'T HAVE ANY CARS ON IT. ANYBODY WISH ON THIS ITEM.

BRING IT BACK TO BOARD FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION.

>> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL. >> MOTION FROM BOURRE AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN SUPPORT OF THE

RECOMMENDATION STATE I. >> OPPOSED? HOW MANY PEOPLE? SIX, ZERO.

[2.  Public Hearing to Amend the Land Development Code to Add Amphitheater as a Conditional Use BSC Zoning]

>> YES, SIR. >> APPLICANT HAS APPLIED, WASHINGTON GROUP. PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT AMPHITHEATER AT THE ORANGE PARK MALL.URRENTLY ALLOWED IN ZONING. WITH SMALL AMPHITHEATERS

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN TO BE IN ZONING.

THIS MORE OR LESS IS A MODIFICATION OF THE MASTER PLAN. TO ALLOW FOR AMPHITHEATERS.

HE LOCATION, THE PROPOSED SITE IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MALL. ALONG THE BUFFER RIGHT HERE WITHIN THAT GRASSY AREA. THAT IS WHERE THEY PROPOSED THE AMPHITHEATER. SOME RENDITIONS, NO SEATING.

RELATIVELY SMALL IN NATURE. AMENITY TO THE MALL TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE AND TO PROVIDE ENTERTAINMENT TO PATRONS.

I THINK THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT.

THEY CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

>> OKAY. >> ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

FOR STAFF?YES MR. BOURRE. >> I AM CURIOUS, IN THAT RENDERING, I DON'T SEE ANY FACILITIES, I DON'T SEE ANY BATHROOM FACILITIES, IS NOT GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT OF

THIS? >> I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE THOSE. WE WILL LET THE APPLICANT

RESPOND. >> PERMANENT FACILITIES.ORE OF A QUESTION AS FAR AS WOULD THIS ZONING REQUIRE THEM TO

ALSO PUT IN FACILITIES. >> DEPENDS IF YOU SAY IT IS PART OF THE MALL. THEY DO HAVE FACILITIES IN THE MALL. WE WILL LET THEM RESPOND.

>> OKAY. >> IT IS STILL PART OF THE

MALL. >> THANK YOU.

>> COULD YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID.

WHEN I READ THIS, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS WILL BE A CONDITIONAL USE.

REQUIRE NOT ONLY MEETING CONDITIONS BUT ARE YOU SAYING ANY BSC THAT WANTED TO DO THIS WOULD HAVE TO ASK.

>> A MASTER PLAN APPROVED BY STAFF AND THE BOARD.

ONCE THAT IS APPROVED, IF THEY HAVE MINOR CHANGES TO THE MASTER PLAN, ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY STAFF.

THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BOARD TO CHANGE THE PLAN. SO I CANNOT IMAGINE ANY OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WOULD WANT TO PUT IN AMPHITHEATER.

MOST ARE RELATIVELY SMALL IN NATURE.

JUST LIKE SHOPPING AREAS NOT REALLY A MALL LIKE ORANGE PARK MALL. SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO COME BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD.

>> SO THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE, ALTHOUGH IT APPLIES TO ALL BSC SPECIFICALLY APPLIES RIGHT NOW TO THE MALL PROPERTY.

>> CORRECT. >> AND THE OTHER WOULD HAVE TO

COME BACK FOR APPROVAL. >> WITH THAT ONLY OPEN OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. APPLICANT HERE?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD? >> I AM LISA.

>> GENERAL MANAGER OF THE ORANGE PARK MALL.

>> ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THIS? . MIKE HAD A QUESTION.

CAN YOU ANSWER HIS ABOUT THE RESTROOMS?> SO WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE RESTROOMS OUT THERE.

PERMANENTLY. THEN IF THERE ARE BIG EVENTS THE ABILITY TO BRING IN EXTRAS PON A TEMPORARY BASIS.

THERE WILL BE PERMANENT RESTROOMS.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE MA'AM.

NOISE LEVELS. PROJECTION FOR THAT WITH THE RESIDENTS IS TO THE EAST AS WELL AS TO THE SOUTH.

ACTUALLY TO THE SOUTH MORE OF THE CEMETERY I REALIZE THAT.

UT THEN RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AVENUE. CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT.

>> PURPOSELY SET UP SO THE STAGE IS ON THE SOUTH END.

IT FACES NORTH. ALL OF THE PROJECTION WILL GO THAT DIRECTION. AWAY FROM THE APARTMENTS AND THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE SOUTH AND SOUTHEAST AND SOUTH.

>> TO THE NORTH, THAT STRIP MALL THAT IS THERE IF I

REMEMBER CORRECTLY. >> A BUNCH OF TREES.

A RESTAURANT. >> CAN YOU PUT THE DRAWING BACKUP OF THE MALL. THE AERIAL THAT YOU HAD.

IT IS OVER HERE. I AM SORRY.

>> DOES THAT HELP YOU AT ALL? >> YES, IT DOES.

TO MAKE SURE. >> THE AMPHITHEATER ACTUALLY BE DOWN NEXT TO THE POND. THEN THE GRASSY AREA PROCEEDING

TO THE NORTH OF THAT. >> OKAY.

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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> I HAVE ONE OTHER.

A LOT OF PARKING AT THE MALL BUT THOSE OF US WHO GO THERE ON SATURDAYS KNEW THE PARKING IS TYPICALLY PACKED IN MOST AREAS.

GOING TO BE ANY ALLOCATION FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR THE AMPHITHEATER? PLANNING ON USING THE PARKING

THAT IS THERE? >> SO PLANNING TO USE THE EXISTING PARKING THAT IS THERE. I CODE OVER PART TODAY.

BECAUSE A COUPLE OF DEPARTMENT STORES THAT HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPAND. NONE HAVE THE PLANS TO DO THAT.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY FREEDOM FESTIVAL AND OTHER FESTIVALS OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE USED THE PARKING LOT FOR FOR THE STAGE AND THEN ALL OF THE PARKING. O THIS WILL AT LEAST TAKE

THAT OFF OF THE PARKING. >> CAN YOU PUT THE MICROPHONE

OFF. >> SORRY.

>> ONLY PLANNING YOU KNOW 12 MAY BE TWO MAJOR EVENTS THAT WILL PULL IN PARKING. MOST OF THE REST SMALLER CONCERT SERIES AND FITNESS CLASSES AND FARMERS MARKETS IN DIFFERENT THINGS, MOVIE NIGHTS, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE WILL USE IT FOR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THAT WILL BE THOUSANDS TAKING

UP PARKING SPACES. >> THANK YOU.

>> IF YOU LOOK ON WHERE THE AMPHITHEATER SITE IS, WHERE JCPENNEY SITS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE EAST FACING THE THEATER, THAT IS WHERE WE ALWAYS HAVE THINGS.

LAST WEEK THERE WAS A CIRCUS. THE PARKING LOT IS RARELY EVER USED. IN THIS CASE MOVING OUR EVENT, SPACE FOR CARS TO PARK IN FRONT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

THANK YOU. I DO NOT HAVE ANY CARDS ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM. ANYONE HERE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. BRING THIS BACK FOR DISCUSSION

OR MOTION. >> LIKE TO EMOTION.

>> EMOTION. SECOND?

SECOND. >> I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

>> GO AHEAD.>> THE HISTORY OF THE MALL HAS BEEN KIND OF UP AND DOWN IN THE LATTER QUITE A BIT.

EVEN THE HISTORY OF WELLS AVENUE.

YEARS AGO A PARTY FACILITY FURTHER EAST.

ON SATURDAY NIGHT WE HAD HALF THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT THERE.

ORANGE PARK MALL HAS GOT INTERPRETATION OF BEING NOT SO NICE PLACE ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT AROUND THE THEATER.

I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK ARBITRARY.

I DON'T GO THERE ANYMORE. A COUPLE OF THINGS.

I WAS CURIOUS EXACTLY, WITH OUR PACKET, I WENT AND LOOKED ON THE INTERNET. IT WAS THERE.

IT SHOWED WHERE THE AMPHITHEATER IS GOING TO BE.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, EXACTLY RIGHT.

JUST OVER THAT BUFFER AREA, AND APARTMENT COMPLEX.

TO THE EAST RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THE NIGHTS THAT THERE IS AN EVENT, SIGNIFICANT NOISE. SOME PEOPLE MAKING PHONE CALLS.

THE OTHER THING TOO, ONE ITEM ON BSC NUMBER SIX, COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND SOUNDPROOF BUILDINGS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS IF YOU BRING THIS AS A CONDITIONAL USE, THAT NEGATES THAT REQUIREMENT OF BSC.

ANOTHER ITEM HERE, ANOTHER PAGER SAYS WHICH IS PART OF THE USE IS NOT PERMITTED, ANY USE WHICH WOULD CREATE AN OBNOXIOUS OR OFFENSIVE NOISE. NOW, VAN HALEN MIGHT NOT BE SOMEBODY ELSE'S BEETHOVEN IF YOU CATCH WHAT I AM SAYING.

IT MIGHT NOT BE SUCH A PROBLEM BUT IT IS CERTAINLY OPENING THE DOOR FOR SOME CONCERN. THE LAST THING IS, BSC DOES ALLOW ALCOHOL ON THE FACILITY. I HAVE YET TO ATTEND ANY KIND OF OUTDOOR CONCERT WHERE THERE WASN'T ALCOHOL.

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THAT THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. NOBODY HERE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS BACK THERE I AM ASSUMING.

IF WE APPROVE THIS AS A CONDITIONAL USE HERE, DO THEY STILL HAVE TO COME IN FOR A ZONING REQUEST?

JUST A DONE DEAL? >> IT WILL BE A DONE DEAL.

A PERMITTED USE. APPROVED.

>> THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. AFTER THE COUNTY NEEDS TO THINK ABOUT THIS LONG AND HARD BEFORE THEY OPEN THE DOOR.

ESPECIALLY FOR THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ON A PERIMETER AROUND THE

MALL LIKE THAT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENT?

>> LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION IF I COULD.

WHERE WAS THIS ADVERTISE? ADVERTISE OUT ON WELLS ROAD?

>> A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGE.

IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED.

ADVERTISED TO MEET REQUIREMENTS BUT THAT WOULD BE IT.

>> A TEXT AMENDMENT. DOESN'T ACTUALLY GET ¦

>> IT JUST CONCERNS ME. I WILL ECHO WHAT WAS SAID, THAT THE RESIDENTS CLOSE BY HAVE NOT ÃTHEY ARE NOT HERE IN THE ROOM. PROBABLY NOT A GREAT THING.

SOMETHING I WOULD WANT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITIES AND PUT ON.

ANYONE ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE?

>> I THINK WE WILL SEE HOW THIS VOTE GOES.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE READY FOR SOME OF THOSE ISSUES WHEN THE PCC GETS THIS. LET ME POINT OUT TOO, TO ANYONE INTERESTED IN THIS, THIS IS A LOT OF ELEMENT CODE CHANGE, TWO HEARINGS AT THE BCC, NEXT TUESDAY AT THEIR MEETING.

FOR FIRST HEARING. ACTUALLY ACT ON IT THROUGH TUESDAYS FROM NOW AT THEIR SECOND MEETING ON THE 23RD.

SO THAT AMOUNT OF TIME TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES TOO.

>> CHAIRMAN. IF THAT IS EVEN THE CASE, WOULD THIS BE ADVERTISED PRIOR TO THAT?

>> YES. ALREADY BEEN ADVERTISED.> WOULD HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED FOR THIS MEETING.

WHAT COMMISSIONER BOURRE ASKING, WHERE THE SIGNS PUT OUT. FOR THIS TYPE OF AMENDMENT, YOU DON'T GET THOSE SIGN, THE ADVERTISEMENT IN THE PAPER.

>> IN THE CLAY TODAY? >> ADVERTISE IN THE TIMES UNION. ALL OF OUR CHANGES IN THE TIMES

UNION. >> WHAT WAS THE ARTICLE YOU

READ PAGE? >> IT WAS ON THE INTERNET.

>> WHAT PUBLICATION? JUST CURIOUS.

>> IT WAS WRITTEN BY, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

I PUT IN ORANGE PARK MALL AMPHITHEATER DEVELOPMENT AND IT SAYS PROPOSED ON IT WILL BE CALLED GROVE.

IT WAS NOT AN ADVERSARIAL ARTICLE.

>> PROVIDE ME THE MAP OF WHERE IT WAS AND PULL IT UP ON GOOGLE EARTH AND LOOKED AT IT FROM THAT POINT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? >> I WILL JUST VOICE, IN SUPPORT OF IT. I THINK IT IS A POSITIVE THING.

TO PETE'S POINT, THE MALL HAS HAD AN UP-AND-DOWN HISTORY.

AN EFFORT TO DRAW PEOPLE THERE. CLAY COUNTY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE THAT. NOT LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE

GOING 24/7. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT IS IT. >> I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.

THE MALL, IT IS FUNNY, I THINK YOU MENTIONED IT.

BECAUSE OF SEARS CLOSING, WHEN YOU DRIVE BY THAT PLACE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS A DESERTED MALL.

BUT THE FACT IS THE OTHER END OF IT HAS QUITE A BIT GOING ON STILL. I THINK THEY'VE BEEN VERY INVENTIVE TO TRY TO KEEP THAT GOING AS WE HAVE SEEN MALLS CLOSE. JUST ONE MORE INVENTIVE ATTEMPT

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I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION, CAN I ASK THE APPLICANT.

>> .HOW MANY SEATS ARE PROPOSED?

>> NO SEATS. >> WHAT IS THE CAPACITY?

>> OPEN AREA UNIT. DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE AMPHITHEATER 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF ROUGHLY ASTROTURF.

BEHIND THAT PANTS THAT ALLOWS FOOD TRUCKS TO PARK.

INSTEAD OF THE GENERATORS RUNNING, PLUG INTO THE ELECTRIC. SO AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT CAN ACTUALLY ACTIVATE THE SPACE, DO WE HAVE IT? WAITING ON ENGINEERING, TO DETERMINE THE FINAL FACTORS. THURSDAY 10:00.

FREEDOM POSSIBLE, IS ONE OF THE LARGEST EVENTS WE PUT ON AT THE MALL. 25 YEARS OLD AS OF THIS YEAR.

IT BRINGS OUT 25,000 PEOPLE. THAT ATTENDS THAT OPEN FREE ENTERTAINMENT EVENT. TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD CHATTED, LAST YEAR WE DID NOT HAVE IT. E HAVE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS WITH THE NEIGHBORING. THAT IS WHY WE ARE TRYING TO TURN IT THE OTHER WAY. DESIGNED TO BE A GREEN SPACE.

NO EVENTS HAPPENING, PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND HAVE PICNICS AND ENJOY THE ATMOSPHERE. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED IN THE SPACE.A CHURCH SERVICE.

IT CAN BE DESIGNED. NOW THE MALL CLOSES AT 7:00 P.M., OUR BRAINS WOULD SHUT OFF AROUND 9:00 OR 10:00.

>> THAT WAS MY QUESTION.HEN THE EVENT WAS GOING TO END.

>> WE DON'T, THESE ARE DESIGNED TO BRING TRAFFIC TO THE MALL AND ACTIVATE. THE AMPHITHEATER, NOT LIKE THE SAINT AUGUSTINE AMPHITHEATER. WHERE YOU BRING OUT A NAMES.

PEOPLE ARE PAYING A PRICE TO GET THERE.

GOING OUT UNTIL MIDNIGHT. DESIGNED TO HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, TO BRING ENTERTAINMENT TO CLAY COUNTY.

TO KEEP THE SALES TAX IN CLAY COUNTY.

>> GO AHEAD. >> DIDN'T THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS APPROVED A GRANT FOR YOU GUYS?

>> I PRESENTED THIS TO THAT TDC, AND VESTING 1.5, THEY PROVED 125,000 GRANT AFTER THE PROJECT WAS COMPLETED AS A

COMMUNITY PROJECT. >> TOURIST DEVELOPMENT GRANT.

>> ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS, RECOMMENDATION ON THE FLOOR. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR STATE I.E.

ALTHOUGH SUPPOSED. >> NO.

>> 5-1. WITH COMMISSIONER DAVIS.

[3.  Public Hearing to Consider CPA 2021-01 to Amend the Future Land Use Map for 4524 acres from AR and RR to PC (Planned Community) (Commissioner Condon's District) The Applicant Has Requested Deferral]

TWO PLAN COMMUNITY. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A DEFERRAL HOWEVER THIS ITEM WAS ADVERTISED IN A SENSE IT WAS ADVERTISE, ANYBODY HERE AND I HAVE TWO CARDS.

WE WILL LISTEN TO ANY COMMENTS. RATHER THAN VOTING TONIGHT WE WILL END UP CONTINUING IT TO THE APRIL MEETING FOR FURTHER ACTION. I DO HAVE TWO CARDS.

ANYTHING THAT STAFF WANTS TO SEND THIS BEFORE?

>> APPLY THE AREA WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.

STATE ROAD 21 RADIO. STATE ROAD 16.

NORTHEAST QUADRANT TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA.

THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A DEPICTION OF WHAT THE LAND USES. AGAIN THE ONLY MAPS AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WHAT TO BE APPROVED THERE.

I WANTED TO PROVIDE CONTEXT ON WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.

YOU WILL HAVE AN IDEA OF ITS LOCATION.

>> NORTH >> THE MAIN SOUTHWEST.

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P>> ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ON THIS COLONEL?

>> NOW OR WAIT. >> WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPER. MEETING NEXT THURSDAY TO GO OVER ISSUES AND CONCERNS. WE MAKE NOISE AND WE SHAKE THE EARTH EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. A CONCERN WITH RESIDENTIAL AND SO CLOSE TO OUR RANGES WHICH ARE DIRECTLY WEST.

SO WORKING WITH ED AND HIS TEAM AND ALSO WITH DEVELOPERS, WE WILL MEET NEXT WEEK. DISCUSS THOSE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AND SEE IF THEY WILL ADDRESS THEM.

>> PRIOR TO YOU ON THIS BOARD WE LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AT ONE TIME. AT THE TIME THE CAMP WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DARK SKIES AT NIGHT FOR NIGHTTIME.

I RECALL THAT ISSUE. >> MORE ABOUT ARTILLERY ROUNDS.

THE NOISES THEY MAKE. >> THANK YOU.

>> WITH THAT ONLY OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ON THIS. I DO HAVE A CARD, JACOB.

DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY WHY YOU ARE HERE? GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> 3022 COUNTY ROAD 220. >> PULLED THE MICROPHONE DOWN.

>> BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE FACT ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS TAKING PLACE. CHANGING THIS LAND OVER TO RESIDENTIAL OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO AFFECT OUR COUNTY.

ABOUT MY SITUATION, IN THE COUNTY 25 YEARS.

I LIVE COUNTY ROAD 220 ACTION THE CORNER OF 220 AND THE BOULEVARD. I MOVED IN BEFORE THE RIDGE WAS A RIDGE. WHEN THAT WAS ALLOWED, BY THIS BOARD, I DON'T THINK ENOUGH CONSIDERATION WAS TAKEN INTO CURRENT RESIDENCE. WHAT HAS HAPPENED, OVER TIME DEVELOPMENT, IT FLOODED ME. MY HOUSE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 1956. I HAVE OWNED IT SINCE 97.

WHEN FEMA DID THEIR EVALUATION ZONE, IT CHANGED AND BECAUSE OF THE RIDGE DEVELOPMENT. I JUST DO NOT THINK ENOUGH CONSIDERATION WAS TAKEN TO EXISTING RESIDENTS WHEN STUFF LIKE THIS IS BEING DONE. IT HAS AFFECTED ME GREATLY.

LIKE I SAID WHEN IT WAS REDONE IN 14, THE COUNTY WAS SUPPOSED TO LET IT SNOW, NOT A WORD. NOT UNTIL THERE WAS THREE FOOT OF WATER IN MY HOUSE. BY THE WAY FEMA REZONED THIS 2014. BIG SURPRISE TO US.

$3000 A YEAR TO HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.

FOR THAT FACT. PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS NOTHING.O IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IN THIS COUNTY.

I KNOW YOU LOOK AT IT FOR TAX DOLLARS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, BUT REMEMBER THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.

ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS HE STILL HERE?

DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK. >> LET US SAY WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. >> FOR THOSE OF YOU DON'T KNOW PRIOR TO HIS RETIREMENT IS OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY.

>> 27 YEARS +3. >> ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM.

1301 RIVERPLACE BOULEVARD. JUST HERE AS INDICATED TO ASK FOR DEFERRAL. WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH STAFF AND CAMP LANDING PERSONNEL TO WORK THROUGH THE ISSUES. WE ARE MINDFUL OF COMMUNITY ISSUES. I AM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. DEFER THIS UNTIL AFTER WE'VE

HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> I SEE NO OTHER ONE APPROACHING THE MICROPHONE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

REMIND GENTLEMEN TOO IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, AGAIN NEXT MONTH.O LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS.

UNTIL NEXT MONTH AND THE DATE OF THE MEETING IS APRIL 6.

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>> SECOND. >> I NEED THAT TO SAY TO APRIL 6 OR SOON THERE AS AFTER AS POSSIBLE.

THAT WAY IF WE DON'T MAKE IT. >> AMEND TO APRIL 6 OR SOON

THEREAFTER. >> THANK YOU.

SECOND? PLEASE STATE I.> I.

>> OPPOSE? OKAY.

CARRY OVER AND BE ON OUR AGENDA NEXT MONTH AS WELL.

ON THIS ITEM, I WANTED TO ASK YOU WHEN YOU SEND OUT OUR PACKETS FOR NEXT MONTH, CAN YOU ENCLOSE ÃWE STILL HAVE THAT MILITARY COMPATIBILITY ELEMENT. CAN WE GET A COPY OF THAT SO WE CAN ALL HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE SEE THAT?

>> ABOUT THREE PAGES OF POLICIES.

ALSO A MAP AT THE LAST, INCLUDE THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THINK THAT IS ALL I WANTED ASK ON THAT. WITH THAT WE ARE DONE WITH OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. ANYBODY HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS THEY WANT TO TOUCH ON? ANY NEW BUSINESS? OKAY. OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT AGAIN GENERAL COMMENT. I DON'T HAVE ANY CARDS, I WILL OPEN THAT UP. NOT SEEING ANYONE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT. OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON APRIL

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