Mar 02, 2021 Finance and Audit Meeting Agenda

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FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING OF MARCH 2, 2021. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT, SAYING NONE WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR BUSINESS.

[1.  Notice of Intent and Award of RFP #20/21-7, Paddleboard and Kayak Rental Stations and Accompanying Agreement with PADL, LLC. (K. Morgan)]

RENTAL AND A CUPPING AGREEMENT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

BEFORE YOU YOU HAVE THE RP PROCESS BACKUP AS WELL AS THE AGREEMENT TO AWARD THIS RFP TO PADL,LLC APPEARED THEY RESPONDED TO THE RFP REQUEST. WE DID GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE RFP PROCESS AND SENT THIS BID UP TO 18 DIFFERENT COMPANIES. THEY RESPONDED AND HAD A SOLID RESPONSE. WE WOULD LIKE TO AWARD PADL,LLC WITH THE CONCESSIONAIRE OR THE PADDLE BOARDS AND KAYAKING CONCESSIONAIRE AGREEMENT FOR THE LOCATIONS LISTED.

>> QUESTIONS? BOOKS I'VE A FEW QUESTIONS. I THANK YOU TOLD ME BUT WHERE

ARE THEY LOCATED AT? WHERE'S HER HOME OFFICE? >> THERE IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

THE ACTUAL ADDRESS IS KEY BISCAYNE I THINK. THEY ARE IN B& THEY ARE IN SOUT FLORIDA. I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT LOCATION.

>> IT WASN'T PROVIDED AND I FORGOT TO ASK EARLIER, DID WE SEE A PICTURE OF THEIR B&.

>> WHAT THEIR STATION LOOKS LIKE? >> YEAH BUT THE STATION LOOKS

LIKE. >> YES SIR. THERE'S ONE IN THEIR, I HAVE IT HERE. IT'S IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL. OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS.

I LOOKED THROUGH IT THE OTHER NIGHT. THERE WERE SEVERAL PICTURES IN

THERE. >> IS IT OPEN AIR? >> IT IS OPEN AIR.IT'S ON A CONCRETE SLAB AND IT HAS PIPES THAT COME DOWN AND THERE IS A LOCKING MECHANISM THAT IS PATENTED FOR THEM. THAT ACTUALLY KEEPS THE PADDLEBOARD INTACT.

IT'S SOLAR PANELED. THAT'S WHAT'S AT THE TOP OF THE STATION.

>> BETSY: CELL TECHNOLOGY? >> THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE YOUR RESERVATION.

THAT'S HOW IT'S UNLOCKED. >> WHILE WERE ON THE DISPLAY APPARATUS.

CONCRETE PAD, DO WE HAVE TO INSTALL A CONCRETE PAD? >> SO THEY DO.

WE WILL BE WORKING WITH BUILDING AND ZONING TO MAKE SURE.LL OF THE SITES ARE ON COUNTY PROPERTY. SO WE WILL BE WORKING WITH BUILDING AND ZONING TO MAKE

SURE THERE IS NO PERMITTING AND IN THE ACTUAL PLACE.>> I NOTICED THE HOURS OF OPERATION A.D.A.M. UNTIL SUNSET. HOW DO THEY PROHIBIT ME FROM COMING DOWN THERE AT MIDNIGHT

TO TAKING OUT A PADDLEBOARD? >> THEY TURN THE RENTAL MECHANISM OFF.

>> BETSY: SO IT WON'T DISPERSE THE PADDLEBOARD. AND THE LAST THING, SECURITIES IN TO BE PROVIDED BY THE CONTRACTOR. HOW DO TEY TO MONITOR THIS?

HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PROVIDE SECURITY? >>.

>> SO WE DON'T HAVE BATTLES GOING ON AT 2:00 THE MORNING. >> SOME OTHER STATIONS DO HAVE CAMERAS. THAT ARE POWERED BY THE SWORD EL.

THERE ARE THAT LOCKING MECHANISM THEY BUILT IT SO THEY KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

EACH OF THE PADDLE BOARDS HAVE A TRACKING MECHANISM ON THEM SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO TRACK WHERE THOSE ARE. AT ANY GIVEN TIME. WHETHER THEIR LANDSLIDE OR IN THE WATER. SO FROM A SECURITY SECURITY STANDPOINT THEY KNOW WHAT'S .

>> THERE WAS ONE MORE QUESTION BUT A MEMBER WHAT IT WAS. ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

>> IS YOUR FEE LIKE CHARGED THEIR DEBIT CARD IF THEY LEAVE IT SOMEWHERE AND NOT RETURN IT?

>> YES. >> >> OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF QUESTION THAT I HAVE. IF THERE IS A MISHAP OF SOME SORT THEY FALL OFF THE BOARD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RIVER AND IT TAKES HIM DOWN TO THE BRIDGE OR

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WHATEVER. >> THERE ARE SAFETY MEASURES PTHEY HAVE INCLUDED IN THEIR PROPOSAL. THEY BROKE WITH THE LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL AS THE COAST GUARD AND A SPECIAL SAFETY TEAM. FOR WATERWAYS, THAT'S WHAT THEY USE. THERE IS CLOSE DIALOGUE IN CLOSE COMMUNICATION.

>> AND PERSONAL PROTECTION VESTS? >> THEY HAVE LIFE VEST THAT

GOES WITH EVERY RENTAL. YES SIR. >> THE COMES WITH THE BOARD OR KAYAK APPEARED ONE THING I HAVE NOT ASKED, DO WE HAVE A MARINE PATROL?

>> WE DO. WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. >> AND 24/7?

>> NO? BASED ON AVAILABILITY. WE HAVE ONE VOTE?

>> WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY. IT'S A SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOT CCF RD?

>> WE CAN LAUNCH IT. >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD, THANK YOU CHIEF MOCK.

>> YOU HAVE LIMITED CAPABILITY OF DOING OUT. WE CAN LAUNCH IT AND GET TO THE WATER WERE FOR INCREASING THE CAPABILITY AS WE SPEAK OVER TIME.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRUE RIVER RESCUE ONCE THEY'RE OUT IN THE MAIN CHANNEL OF THE

RIVER THAT REALLY NEEDS JF RD ASSISTANCE TO COME. >> YOU SAY WE CAN LAUNCH?

WHAT WE HAVE? >> WE HAVE A SMALL BOAT.> A SKIFF TYPE THING?

>> YES. THEY'RE WORKING TO APPROVE THAT CAPABILITY.

MARKETING A LARGER ONE THAT WE COULD DO THAT WITH. >> THANK YOU, THAT'S ALL THE

QUESTIONS I HAVE. >> I'M KIND OF TORN. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING FOR TOURISM. I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO SHARE IT WITH THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS BUT, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE AFTER COME BACK BECAUSE SINCE IT'S NO COST TO THE COUNTY IT'S REALLY JUST AN AMENITY. THAT WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY NEED TO PUT IT ON THE DISCUSSION AGENDA.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD. AS LONG AS WE HAVE TIME I THINK WE HAVE TIME TO DO THIS.

>> IS A FAIRLY SHORT AGENDA. DO YOU MIND IF WE DISCUSS IT? THANK YOU.

[2.  RFQ #20/21-14, Professional Engineering Design Consultant Services for the Bonded Transportation Program (BTP) Construction Management At Risk (CMAR) Group #2 (E. Dendor)]

> YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD. >> ITEM NUMBER 2. RFQ 20 2114. PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING DESIGN CONSULTATION CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR BONDED TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.

SORRY, IT WAS CUT OFF FROM INSIDE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

ED DONE DOOR. NO GO. THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING DESIGN CONSULTANT SERVICES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND MANAGEMENT CR NUMBER R 2.

THE BEST RATED FIRM IS JACOBS ENGINEERING GROUP WITH A SCORE OF OF 83.33.

IN CONJUNCTION WITH PPROVAL IF THE ION WITH THE TOP-RATED PROPOSALS UNSUCCESSFUL WOULD LIKE BOARD APPROVAL TO MOVE TO THE NEXT BEST EVALUATED PROPOSER WHICH WOULD BE ENGLAND THIMS & MILLER, INC WITH A SCORE OF 80.66. IF THAT'S UNCONTESTABLE CONTINUE UNTIL THE RIGHT. UNTIL WERE SUCCESSFUL WITH NEGOTIATIONS.

>> WHAT KIND OF THINGS WOULD MAKE IT NOT SUCCESSFUL? >> IF FOR EXAMPLE WERE NOT ABLE AGREE WITH LEVEL OF F EFFORT, RATES AS WELL AS WITHIN OUR PUPPET BUDGET, PROPOSED BUDGET.

PROPOSAL IS CURRENTLY AT 2,000,900. FRIGIDAIRE ALL 3 PROJECTS.

OUR PROJECT NUMBER 2 WHICH IS PART OF ROAD COUNTY ROAD 209. PUBLIC NUMBER 5 WICH IS COUNTY

ROAD 220 AND PROJECT 6 A WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 315. >> QUESTIONS?

>> YEAH. WHERE IS JACOBS ENGINEERING HOME OFFICE?> HAVE OFFICES IN GAINESVILLE AND AN OFFICE IN JACKSONVILLE. THE HOME OFFICE, I DON'T HAVE

THAT ONE IN FRONT OF ME. >> TEXAS. TODAY OF AN OFFICE IN CLAY

COUNTY? >> THEY DO. >> THEY HAVE A BRANCH OFFICE IN

JACKSONVILLE. >> HOW ABOUT ENGLAND THIMS & MILLER, INC?

>> THEY HAVE AN OFFICE, THERE HOME OFFICES IN JACKSONVILLE. >> DID WITH HER HOME OFFICES?

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>> OH, THAT IS THEIR HOME. >> IT'S OVER THERE BY BAPTIST SOUTH.

>> YES MA'AM. OVER IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. >> I DON'T KNOW ROAD NAMES JUST

GENERAL AREA. >> OBSERVATION OF THE EVALUATORS.

THERE WERE 3 EVALUATORS AND 2 OF THE 3 RATED ENGLAND THIMS & MILLER, INC HIGHER.

THERE WAS ONE OUTLIER SCORE IN THE JACOBS ENGINEERING WHICH CAUSED THEM TO BE HIGHEST RATED OF ALL 3 RAIDERS. IT GAVE ME A PAUSE AS TO THE NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER 2. IF 2 OF THE EVALUATORS THOUGHT ENGLAND THIMS & MILLER, INC OR HIGHER.

>> THE EVALUATORS ALL 3 EVALUATORS ARE DONE INDEPENDENTLY.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TALK OR MANAGE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH OTHER.

THEY ARE REVEALED TO THE PUBLIC MEETING. THERE ARE THEIR OWN IT INDEPENDENT EVALUATION OF ALL PTHE CRITERIA ACROSS ALL THE DIFFERENT BIDDERS.

>> DO WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH EITHER OF THESE EMR'S? >> CMR IS NEW TO CLAY COUNTY.

WE HAVE NOT DONE CR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT RISK IN CLAY COUNTY.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PRIOR EXPERIENCE WITH CLAY COUNTY? >> THEY DO HER PRIOR EXPERIMENT VARIES WITH CLAY COUNTY BUT NOT FOR PROVIDING AS CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT RISK.

AS ENGINEERS, THEY DO. >> THIS RFQ WAS STRICTLY FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES.E DID LABEL IT CMR BECAUSE IT'S RELATED TO THE BOTTOM PROJECTS AND RESULTS WILL TURN INTO A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK FOR THE CONSTRUCTION SITE. THESE FIRMS WILL BE PROVIDING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE 3 PROJECTS. I KNOW ETM HAS DONE DESIGN WORK FOR US BEFORE. SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAD EXPERIENCE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER FIRMS ON THE PREVIOUS DESIGN PROJECTS. WHETHER THEY WERE COUNTY

PROJECTS OR OTHER AGENCY PROJECTS. >> DO YOU THINK THAT WAS A BAD EXPERIENCE? IT'S INTERESTING TO ME LIKE ON THE SPREADSHEET FOR VOLUME WHICH I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. MAYBE IT'S VOLUME OF WORK OR I DON'T KNOW. LIKE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD.

THEN SEEK ETM IS ALMOST HALF OF WHAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS. IT JUST STRUCK ME.

>> THIS CRITERIA WAS ADOPTED BY IOUS BOARD BY 2010 WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS ERIODICALLY.

THIS IS THE EVALUATION WE USE ON ALL PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. WE DO TWEAK IT HERE AND THERE LIKE LOCATION. WE CAN'T USE IT IF WERE DOING A GRANT PROJECT WITH FEMA OR STATE PROJECTS. THEY WILL ALLOW US TO USE LOCATION.

WE WILL TWEAK IT EVERY NOW AND AGAIN. VOLUME IS BASED ON THE VOLUME WITH CLAY COUNTY . THERE IS ANOTHER CATEGORY WHERE THEY GET THE POINTS OUTWEIGHED BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH CLAY COUNTY. SO AT SOME POINT WE COULD SIT

DOWN AND GO OVER THE WHOLE MATRIX WITH YOU. >> THAT'S INTERESTING.

OKAY. >> I RECOMMEND THIS GO TO THE COMMISSION SIMPLY BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S ONLY ONE SCORE, NUMBER ONE AND 2 THERE'S ONLY ONE SCORE FENCE AND OUTLIER AND THAT CAUSED A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER 2 SELECTIONS.

WHEN YOU HAVE 2 EVALUATORS PRETTY CLOSELY OF III EVALUATOR AND IT WAS OUTLIER ON THE HIGH SIDE WHICH CAUSED JACOBS ENGINEERING TO BE RATED NUMBER ONE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT CONCERNING. I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK A LITTLE CLOSER AND DO A LITTLE

BIT MORE PHONE CALLING IN THAT TYPE OF THING. >> I WILL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. IT'S DRIVEN BY FLORIDA STATUE, 250 50 87. THE BOARD HAS THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR PRESENTATIONS.

IT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF THE TOP 3 GIFT OR BRING AT LEAST 3 AND FOR PRESENTATIONS.

THAT IS AN OPTION IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO GO WITH STAFF'S RANKING.

SO, BASED ON THE SCORING THERE ALSO CLOSE, OUR COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT IF PRESENTATIONS WERE DESIRED THAT WE WOULD BRING IN THE TOP 4. BECAUSE OF SCORING, 80.66 80.33 AND 80.

WHERE WOULD YOU DIVIDE THAT. HOWEVER, WITH THAT WE WOULD SCHEDULE THAT FOR BOARD MEETING. EITHER THE COMMITTEE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TODAY WE CAN BRING THEM IN AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING. WE COULD BRING IT TO THE FULL BOARD FOR THAT DECISION, JUST REALIZE IT IS A BOND PROJECT IN EVERY 2 WEEKS WOULD DELAY THE

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PROJECT. >> WERE ONLY TALKING NEXT WEEK, RIGHT?

YOU CAN GET THEM IN BY NEXT TUESDAY? >> YES SIR.

>> WERE TALKING ABOUT A WEEK. THIS WON'T BE APPROVED TILL NEXT TUESDAY ANYWAY.

>> IT COULD BE THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION. WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.

IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU AS A COMMUNITY. >> IF WE THE COMMITTEE SAY WE THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE TO HAVE THE PRESENTATIONS THEN THERE COULD BE SUFFICIENT?

>> YES. >> WOULD TYPICALLY DO THAT IS A TIME CERTAIN SO WILL BRING THEM

IN AT THE 5 O'CLOCK TIME. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE OF VALUE TO THE COMMISSION TO TALK TO THESE GUYS. THE SCORES ARE REALLY CLOSE AND LIKE YOU SAID THERE'S ONE ELEMENT THAT IS AN OUTLIER. WHAT'S A TOTAL VALUE OF THE CONTRACT?

>> 10 MILLION? >> JUST SHY OF 3 MILLION. >> EVEN THAT, THAT'S A LOT OF

MONEY. >> AGAINST ALL 3 PROJECTS. WHAT WILL DAVIS WILL BRING BACK REQUEST OF ALL FOR THE TOP 4 WOULD BE JACOBS ENGINEERING WITH A SCORE OF 80 1.33.

ENGLAND THIMS & MILLER, INC WITH A SCORE OF 80.66 ALFRED BENESCH & COMPANY WITH A SCORE OF 80.33 AND GAI CONSULTANTS, INC WITH THE CONSULTING OF 80 THAT'S THE TOP 4 PROPOSERS.

WILL GIVE THEM 5 MINUTES EACH TO COME IN AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.

AS KAREN HAD MENTIONED IT WOULD BE THE BOARD'S DISCRETION. >> WIFE OREGON?

>> BECAUSE THE SCORES ARE SO CLOSE BETWEEN 80 AND 81.33. THERE'S A STEP DOWN FROM THE

SCORES AFTER THAT. YES SIR. >> ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? KAREN HAS MENTIONED. FOR CRM NUMBER ONE WILL BE DOING THE SAME THING.

WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPONENT CMR NUMBER 2 WILL COME BACK IN THERE MAKING A PROPOSAL AND WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE BEST PROPOSER AS WELL.

IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT PART FOR INSTALLATION WILL COVER THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH HEISER TOP 2 WITH 3. OR 4. DEPENDING ON HOW THEY RANK OUT.

[3.  Budget Transfer from Reserves - Overtime & Salary Costs Due to COVID-19 (R. Kantor/D. Motes)]

>> YEAH. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT.

IT IS A LOT OF TAXPAYER MONEY. WE WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. THANK YOU.

>> SO THE TOP 4 IN NEXT WEEK'S MEETING AT TIME CERTAIN. >> YES MA'AM.

>> EVERYONE GOOD? OKAY. BRIGHT MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER 3. WHICH IS BUDGET TRANSFER, OVER TIME AND TOLERATE FOR FIRE CONTROL, EMS. SO CHIEF MOATS IS COMING WITH

YOU. >> I'M HERE FOR BACKUP. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.

>> WILL BE TAKING MONEY OUT OF RESERVES TO COVER SOME OVERTIME ISSUES.

BUT, THE HISTORY OF THE FUNDS IN NOVEMBER AND IN JANUARY WE INTRODUCED CARES ACT ONEY AND CASH CARRYFORWARD. I PUT MORE THAN 3 AND HALF MILLION IN BOTH RESERVES OF THE FUND SO NOW WERE HAVING TO TAKE SOME OF THAT BACK AND TAKE CARE OF HIS OVERTIME ISSUES.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OVERTIME? ASK FOR OUR OVERAGES AND HANDLING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC FOR BOTH OVERTIME CASTS ANCILLARY COST WE NEED TO BACKFILL OUR ACCOUNTS TO MAKE

IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR. >> QUESTIONS? >> YEAH.

OKAY, WE TOOK CARES BUNNY AND PUT IT IN ANOTHER ACCOUNT IN OUR BRINGING IN OUT OF THAT

ACCOUNT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> UNDERSTAND THAT FOR OVERTIME

BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT FIBRILLAR TIME? >> WHY HAVE WE THROUGH THE YEARS WE HAVE TO AUGMENT OUR REGULAR TIME ACCOUNT, WE DID BUDGET RIGHT? WHAT IS OUR REGULAR TIME ACCOUNT, WISE THAT SHORT HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR?

>> IT COULD BE SHORT FOR PROMOTIONS, READY PEOPLE OUT OF POSITION.

AND THAT SORT OF THING. >> WE DON'T ACCOUNT FOR THAT IN BUDGETING IN PROMOTIONS?OU

SHOULD BE DOING THAT. >> IT'S VERY CLOSE. CHIEF?

>> THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC WILL BE HIT THE POSITION IN OCTOBER WE BEGAN TO EXPERIENCE QUITE A LARGE NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT WERE PUT INTO QUARANTINE AREAS. WE WERE, I THINK WE HIT TOP ENDS CLOSE TO 40 TO 50 IS WHAT I RECALL. I'VE ABOUT 200 AND OPERATIONAL STAFFING. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE DEPARTMENT WHEN YOU DIVIDED OVER 3 SHIFTS. WHEN THOSE PEOPLE HAD TO GO OUT, MOVING INDIVIDUALS UP INTO THOSE POSITIONS WERE THOSE REGULAR SALARY COST ARE OR WHAT THE GAIN TO EXACERBATE IT. ADDITIONALLY WE PLACED A FULL SAFETY CAR THAT'S 3 PEOPLE ONE EVERY SHIFT AND ADDITIONAL UNITS IN SERVICE SOME OF THOSE WERE USED AND HAVE BEEN USE OF

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WHEN YOU TAKE ALL THOSE ACCOUNTS OF THOSE EXTRA DUTIES THAT WERE PLACED BY PUT PRESSURE ON TO THE MAIN SALARY ACCOUNT AND SIGNIFICANT PRESSURE BECAUSE OF THE DOUBLE

OVERTIME ONTO THE OVERTIME ACCOUNTS. >> UNDERSTAND ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY DUTIES AND ALL THAT. WE HAD OUR CORE DIRTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND THOSE WERE FILLED I ASSUMED WITH REGULAR PEOPLE WITH REGULAR SALARIES.

>> AND BACK OF PEOPLE MOVING IT TO DO IT. YOU WERE EXPANDING THE LEVEL OF

SERVICE THAT TOOK PLACE. HAT'S WHAT HITS THE REGULAR. >> EXPANSION OF REGULAR DUTIES?

WHAT REGULAR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBLE DUTIES? >> THAT WOULD BE OVERTIME'S

TYPE STUFF. >> AND MEANS IS REMOVING THOSE PEOPLE HAVING TO BACKFILL OTHER PLACES AS WE MOVE TAKE PEOPLE AWAY. FOR INSTANCE, WERE STEPPED UP THE SAFETY CARS WERE NOT ALWAYS OVERTIME. THEY WERE CAPTAINS MOVING UP.

IEUTENANTS FILLING IN. ENGINEERING'S BACKFILLING THAT AND FIREFIGHTERS WERE HIRED AT THE OVERTIME LEVEL IF NECESSARY. THAT'S FOR THE REGULAR SALARY

TAKES PLACE. >> SO ARE WE GOING TO DO THIS AGAIN IN 3 MONTHS?

>> I CAN'T PREDICT WHAT THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE THAT MAY BE EXPOSED ARM.

A HOPEFUL, THE DOUBLE OVERTIME ENDS TODAY. HOPEFUL THAT WE'VE WEATHERED THE STORM FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO PREDICT WHERE WE GO.

SURE. NOW THE GOOD NEWS IS THE CARES ACT MONEY THAT WE WERE PUTTING IN FOR HOSE SALARIES AND FOR THE OVERTIME THAT WE USED WAS PART OF THE REPLACEMENT.

IT'S NOT QUITE A ONE TO ONE BUT IT'S REALLY, WE GOT THAT MONEY BACK AND REPLACING IT IN.

WE KNEW THAT WAS TAKING PLACE AS WE BEGAN THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE'D BE IN A POSITION PRETTY MUCH AT THE BEGINNING OR THE MIDPOINT OF THE FISCAL YEAR TO HAVE TO DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. I'M HOPEFUL THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN TO ONE OR 2 PEOPLE IN QUARANTINE AT THIS POINT. IF WE REMAIN THERE WE SHOULD FALL BACK INTO WHAT IS MORE OF A NORMAL PROCESS FOR THE REMAINING FISCAL YEAR.

>> ,AT WILMER THING TO THAT. EVERY HOUR WORK IS NOT NECESSARILY EQUATE TO OVERTIME OUR . WITH THE WHERE SCHEDULES WORK. IF A WORK A WEEK OR WE WORK 96 HOURS. IF I WORK A WHOLE ANOTHER SHIFT THAT ISN'T OVERTIME.

IT COULD COME OUT OF REGULAR SALARY AND REGULAR STRAIGHT TIME HOURS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY MORE SENSE TO YOU OR NOT. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT

ACCOUNT IT HITS AS TO WHAT HOUR IT IS. >> I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.

IT'S HARD, ANYWAY. OKAY, THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

SO, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? >> I THINK THIS IS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

IT'S COVERED AND IT'S TEMPORARY. >> OKAY.

I WOULD AGREE. >> I SURE HOPE SO. >> I WENT AGREE.

WE WILL PUT THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AS TO COUNTY MANAGER.

>> MADAM CHAIR I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE BOARD. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS.

>> KNOW WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK ON NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

>> WELCOME CLAY COUNTY. >> TERESA GARNER FOR THOSE THAT ARE OUT THERE.

CAME AND LEFT DELAWARE AND IT WAS SNOWING ON DAY. >> YOU'RE ALREADY BECOMING A SOUTHERNER BECAUSE YOU'RE ON THE BACK ROW. THAT'S WHERE WE LIKE TO HANG OUT. WELCOME, WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

>> THIS IS A CHARGE. >> NO, THIS IS A CHURCH. AND OUR CLERK OF COMPTROLLER ALWAYS JOINS US. WE'RE GRATEFUL THAT YOU'RE PHERE.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US THIS AFTERNOON? >> NUMBER.

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