[00:00:04] >> IF EVERYONE LOOKED TO JOIN US WE WILL HAVE AN INVITATION FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE. THE INVOCATION WILL BE DONE BY COMMISSIONER BURKE. CHANCE PLEASE BREAK WITH ME IF YOU WILL. DEAR LORD, THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTY WE LIVE IN. THANK YOU THAT WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS TO BENEFIT THE COUNTY NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS, FIRST RESPONDERS, HEALTHCARE WORKERS AND THEIR FAMILIES. I PRAY WE CAN HAVE THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS AND WEEKEND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTY. I PRAY FOR THE COUNTY AND EVERYONE TO WORK EVERY DAY TO PROTECT THAT SPIRIT PLEASE BRING US ALL HOME SAFE TONIGHT AND BACK TO WORK TOMORROW. IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN. >> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. LET ME À LA ON OUR GAAP'S U.S. ARMY RETIRED. WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE YOU WITH US. HE HAS A NUMBER OF CITATIONS AND ACCOMMODATIONS TO ADD TO HIS MILITARY SERVICE CREDIT. AN INTERESTING FACT ABOUT YOU TEN HE WAS IN AVIATION IN VIETNAM. HE SERVED TWO TOURS IN VIETNAM. THE 229TH RECREATE AND ONE OF THE MOST DECORATED UNITS IN THE ARMY THAT WE HAD AT THAT TIME. WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE HIM JOIN US TODAY. MR. STEPHEN VERRIGNI, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE THE MICROPHONE. >> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. BEFORE -- I AM VERY HUMBLED AND HAVE THE HONOR TO DO THIS TODAY. WE HAVE FIVE GENERATIONS OF VETERANS IN MY FAMILY. FROM THE ARGONNE FOREST TO DTA TO AFGHANISTAN. IT MEANS A LOT TO ME, I CANNOT TELL YOU, HOW TOUCHED I AM. I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. >> YOU ARE WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, SIR. >> I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> THANK YOU SIR. >> YOU CAN BE SEATED. WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO [CALL TO ORDER] ORDER ON JANUARY 26. THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WITH US WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DURING ANY OF OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, PLEASE FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD AND YOU CAN FILL IT OUT AND TURN IT INTO ONE OF THE CLERKS OR THE DEPUTIES. WE WILL BE GLAD TO CALL ON YOU TO HAVE YOU COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE A FEW PUBLIC HEARINGS, THOSE WHO MAY HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM AT THE END PLEASE BE PATIENT WE WILL GET TO IT. AT THIS TIME THAT THE RECORD SHOW, ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE IN PLACE. [ARTWORK] WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE ARTWORK FROM KEYSTONE HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. TERESA, GO AHEAD. >> TODAY OUR ARTWORK IS FROM KEYSTONE HEIGHTS ELEMENTARY. THE TEACHER IS MRS. CONRAD. THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. IT IS WATERCOLORS AND OIL PASTELS. SIX GRADE. NEXT WE HAVE JOCELYN. CHALK PASTEL, FIFTH-GRADE. NEXT WE HAVE SYDNEY, WATERCOLOR AND WHALE PASTEL. SIX GRADE. THE MILKY WAY, CHALK PASTEL, SIX GRADE. RAIN FOREST ANIMAL, WATERCOLOR AND CRAN, SECOND GRADE. SOPHIA, WATERCOLOR AND OIL PASTEL, FOURTH GRADE. SOPHIA, RAIN FOREST ANIMAL, THIRD GRADE. TUCKER, THE MILKY WAY. CHALK PASTEL, FOURTH GRADE. WATERCOLOR OIL PASTEL, FOURTH [00:05:01] GRADE. PARKER, CHALK PASTEL, SIX GRADE. THAT COMPLETES THE ARTWORK. >> THANK YOU, TERESA. SHE IS OUR EXECUTIVE EXISTENT. IN TIMES OF NON- BOARD MEETINGS, SHE HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF KEEPING TRACK OF ALL FIVE OF US. THAT IS NOT AN EASY SITUATIN. [PET ADOPTIONS] WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE PET ADOPTION SPIRIT WE DO SHOW PETS DURING THE MEETING, MANY TIMES THE PETS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN ARE ADOPTED OUT OF THE ANIMAL SHELTERS. THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO GO IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO ADD TO THE FAMILY. >> THE FIRST ANIMAL IS SAGE. A SPAYED FEMALE 1-YEARS-OLD. WEIGHS 35 POUNDS. SAGE HAS HAD A ROUGH START TO LIFE BUT SHE DOES NOT LET THAT GET IN HER WAY. SAGE IS A SWEET GIRL THAT LOVES HER DOGGY TREATS. SHE WILL NEED A FAMILY THAT IS WILLING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME WITH HER TO BUILD UP HER TRUST. SHE IS DOG FRIENDLY. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HER VACCINES, MICROCHIPS AND HEART WARM NEGATIVE. THE NEXT DOG IS RUDOLPH. A NEUTERED MALE, LAB MIX, 3-YEARS-OLD AND WEIGHS 44 POUNDS. RUDOLPH IS A SWEET BOY WHO REALLY LIKES HIS PEOPLE. HE KNOWS BASIC COMMANDS AND WILL DO ALMOST ANYTHING FOR A TREAT. HE LOVES PLAYING WITH HIS BALL, BUT HE DOES NOT LIKE TO SHARE HIS TOYS. RUDOLPH IS UP-TO-DATE ON HIS VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. WHILE HE IS HEART WARM POSITIVE HIS TREATMENT IS SPONSORED BY OUR FRIENDS OF CLAY COUNTY ANIMALS INCORPORATED. OUR FIRST -- OUR TWO CATS TODAY ARE SIBLINGS. FIRST IS JUJU, A SPAYED FEMALE DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR, 8-YEARS-OLD. SHE IS A SHY GIRL BUT SHE HAS LOTS OF LOVE TO GIVE. SHE MAY TAKE TIME TO WARM UP TO NEW PEOPLE SO SHE NEEDS A FAMILY THAT WILL HELP HER ALONG THE WAY. SHE WILL DO BEST IN A QUIET HOME WITH HER SISTER SHEBA. SHE IS FRONT DECLAWED. SHE IS UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HER VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. THIS IS THE OTHER SIBLING, SHEBA. SPAYED FEMALE. DOMESTIC SHORTHAIR. 8-YEARS-OLD. SHE IS A SWEET, SHY GIRL THAT NEEDS TIME AND PATIENCE WHILE SHE GETS TO KNOW YOU. SHE CAME IN WITH HER SISTER JUJU THAT WE JUST SAW AND WILL DO BEST IN A QUIET HOME. SHEBA IS FRONT DECLAWED AS WELL AND UP TO DATE ON ALL OF HER AGE APPROPRIATE VACCINES AND MICROCHIP. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ADOPTING PLEASE E-MAIL US AT CLAY ADOPTIONS ACT PLAY.GOV.COM. OR CALL THE NUMBER ON THE SCREEN. WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR FOSTERS FOR THE KITCHEN CREW. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADOPT A CAT, CLAY FOSTERS IS THE PLACE TO COME. [SPECIAL STAFF RECOGNITION] >>> CAN I GET THE BOARD TO JOIN ME DOWN IN FRONT WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO MAKE TO A RETIRING OFFICIAL WHO WORKS FOR THE COUNTY. WE WOULD LIKE TO HONOR HIM. >> THESE ARE THE GOOD TIMES THAT WE PRESENT. IN THIS CASE WE WILL HAVE LIEUTENANT MONTY COLEMAN. >> LIEUTENANT MONTY COLEMAN STARTED WITH THE DEPARTMENT IN JULY OF 1995. HE IS COMPLETING 25 AND A HALF YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS. ONE THING WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT MONTY, HE HAS BEEN A LOT ABOUT SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. HE SERVED THE UNION FAITHFULLY. HE WAS THE TREASURER. HE WAS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF CHARITY EVENTS. THE REAL KEY ASPECT THAT WE WILL SORELY MISS OUT OF THIS DEPARTMENT IS THE FACT THAT HE HAS BEEN AN ANCHOR. HE HAS BEEN A COUNTY OFFICER FOR 18 OUT OF THE 25 YEARS. THAT IS THE ANCHOR OF OUR ORGANIZATION RUNNING THE STATION RUNNING THE RESCUE AND ENGINE CREWS AND ENSURING THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD DO AND BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THEY GO HOME SAFELY. HE IS COMPLETING THAT SERVICE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT HIM, DAVID, DO YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP, THIS IS A PLAQUE HONORING THAT SERVICE. MONTY, THERE YOU GO I THINK WE WILL TAKE THE PICTURE FIRST. I WILL LET YOU DO THE HONORS. [00:10:18] WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. WE THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE HOURS AT THE FIREHOUSE. YOU PROBABLY LEARNED HOW TO COOK PRETTY WELL. WE CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE COUNTY. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING. >> EASE A BIT OF A FIRE ABOVE AND AN ANTIQUE FAN. THE IRONY IS OVER TIME, I GREW UP IN THE CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA AREA AND TALKING TO THEM ONE DAY IT TURNED OUT WE MUTUALLY KNEW SOME OF THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT BUFFED WITH HIM. HAVE A FEELING YOU WILL BE GOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND GETTING MORE ANTIQUES. I WISH YOU GOD BLESS AND GOOD WEATHER AND GODSPEED TO DO THAT. IT SHOULD BE A WONDERFUL THING TO DO. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE DEPARTMENT, MONTY YOU HAVE GIVEN A LOT BEHIND THAT IS THE FAMILY. YOU HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF TIME TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY ND THE FAMILIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A WORD. >> NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY. I WANT TO THANK ALL OF THE MEN THE STREETS. THEY ARE THE BACKBONE AND THE FAMILY. WE ARE THERE 24 HOURS. THAT IS A BIG FAMILY. I WILL MISS MY WIFE FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME FOR 25 YEARS. YOU CAN COME BY FOR COFFEE. THE BEST JOB I EVER QUIT. AS USUAL, THE FAMILY IS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. NOW YOU HAVE A NEW CHIEF. CONGRATULATIONS. ALL OF THE BEST IN RETIREMENT. I KNOW YOU WILL BE BUSY. YOU GUYS, ENJOY YOURSELVES. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WE CAN GO BACK NOW THAT WE ARE DONE HERE. >> WE WILL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM [PRESENTATIONS] WHICH IS A PRESENTATION BY SUSAN. SHE IS WITH THE HEALTH PLANNING COUNCIL. SPEAKING WITH US TODAY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE IT. HOW CAN YOU EDUCATE US TODAY. >> I WILL TRY TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I WILL MAKE IT QUICK. THE REASON I AM YEARS TO GIVE THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC AN UPDATE ON THE CDBG GRANT PROJECT THAT WE ARE PERFORMING FOR CLAY COUNTY. I SEE IT WILL DO THE SLIDES. I WAS WONDERING HOW THAT WOULD WORK. OKAY, YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT ONE. I FIRST WANT TO INTRODUCE MY ORGANIZATION. WE REPRESENT SEVEN COUNTIES IN THE NORTHEAST REGION, AND CLAY COUNTY IS ONE OF THEM. WE LEAD INITIATIVES THAT PROVIDE SUSTAINABILITY, THAT RELATES TO THE CDBG AND HOUSING INITIATIVES THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET GRANTS [00:15:09] FOR. IN ORDER TO MAKE OUR EFFORTS, AS DISTINCT AND PROFESSIONAL AS POSSIBLE WE HAS HAVE ENGAGES MANY CONTRACTORS AS POSSIBLE. ONE IS REALLY SKILLED IN CREATING A SOLID AIDED PLAN. AN ANALYSIS OF IMPEDIMENTS TO FAIR HOUSING WHICH IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE GRANT ENTITLEMENT. SO WE HAVE ENGAGED AND WE HAVE ANOTHER SUBCONTRACTOR AS WELL TOO. WTI IS A GROUP INCORPORATED. THEY ARE A NATIONAL FIRM BUT THEY DO HAVE A LOCATION HERE. THEY BASICALLY DO PLANNING WITH TECHNOLOGY BASED SOLUTIONS FOR HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION AND PLANNING. SO, AGAIN, THEY WILL REALLY BE THE OUTREACH AND FOCUS GROUP FOR THE DATA. ONE OF THE IMPORTANT ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN, IT IS PUBLIC OUTREACH. IN ORDER TO FIND OUT WHAT IS BEST FOR CLAY COUNTY. WE MUST HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS OF CLAY COUNTY. THAT IS CALLED THE PRIMARY DATA OR THE OUTREACH. CDBG FUNDS, IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEM. THEY ARE FUNDED THROUGH THE FEDS, HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE ANNUAL ENTITLEMENT GRANTS. THE GOAL OF THE FUNDING IS TO CREATE VIABLE URBAN COMMUNITIES. WHEN WE SAY THAT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW -- HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND SUITABLE LIVING. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE THERE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE WHO ARE CRIME FREE IN GOOD LOCATIONS, ASSESSABLE TO NUTRITION AND RECREATION. ALSO THE FUNDS CAN BE USED TO EXPAND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY TO HELP PEOPLE GAIN EMPLOYMENT AND TO PROVIDE LOANS, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. THAT IS WHAT THE FUNDS ARE EARMARKED FROM HUD. THIS IS JUST AN INFORMATIONAL SLIDE. THE COUNCIL IS A HEALTH DATA ORGANIZATION. WE DEAL WITH DEMOGRAPHICS AS PART OF OUR DAILY WORK. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD PROVIDE THIS TO YOU. POPULATION, NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS, MEDIAN INCOME. MEDIAN SINGLE-FAMILY HOME COSTS AND RENT. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE INTERESTING DEMOGRAPHICS FOR YOU TO ACKNOWLEDGE. THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN. THAT IS ONE OF THE THREE ELEMENTS REQUIRED TO GET ENTITLED TO FUNDING. THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN IS A FIVE-YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. AS I MENTIONED THERE'S THE PRIMARY DATA THAT WE GATHER THROUGH CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. THE SECONDARY DATA THAT WE GET FROM VARIOUS DATA SOURCES TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE HOUSING NEEDS AND CLAY COUNTY. WE ALSO FIND OUT ABOUT THE MARKET CONDITIONS. HOW MUCH IS THE AVERAGE COST OF A HOME. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE INCOME OF PEOPLE TRYING TO BUY THE HOMES. WHAT IS THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND FOR HOUSING AND CLAY COUNTY. DATA DRIVEN INVESTMENT DECISIONS. WE COORDINATE RESOURCES. THE FUNDS WOULD BE FEDERAL. WE WORK TO HAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE AS WELL. ANOTHER ELEMENT OF THE PLAN IS AN ANNUAL ACTION PLAN. WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO HUD EVERY YEAR. THEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PERFORMANCE ON -- REPORTING ON PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION. THE IMPEDIMENTS TO FAIR HOUSING IS ANOTHER ELEMENT OF ENTITLEMENT TO THE FUNDS. AGAIN, HOUSING CHOICES CANNOT BE AFFECTED BY ANY OF THOSE FACTORS THAT YOU SEE OUT THERE. THE GOAL WOULD BE IN THE LEFT BOX, A CONDITION WHERE PEOPLE IN THE SAME HOUSING MARKET HAVE A [00:20:09] RANGE OF HOUSING CHOICES AVAILABLE TO THEM. THERE ARE IMPEDIMENTS TO THAT ON THE RIGHT SIDE. DECISIONS WHICH RESTRICT HOUSING CHOICES OR THE AVAILABILITY OF HOUSING CHOICES. SO WE DO A FULL REPORT. IT IS A FULL ASSESSMENT. HOUSING, HOUSING IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO HEALTH. WHAT KIND OF HOUSING QUALITY WISE OR PORTABILITY -WISE, COMMUNITY ATTRIBUTES. THESE ALL AFFECT THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY. , ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH LOW AND MODERATE INCOME. THIS DEFINITELY AS A HEALTH IMPACT AS WELL. IT IS NOT CAPTURED WITHIN THE ENTITLEMENT FUN BUT IT IS A GOOD THING FOR CLAY COUNTY TO BE AWARE OF. CDBG FUNDS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO TWO COUNTIES THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN BEST PRACTICES. YOU CAN SEE ON THERMOGRAPHIC THERE, THIS IS THE MOST WESTERN COUNTY. ALSO THE OLDEST COUNTY IN FLORIDA. SO THE CDBG FUNDS INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF FUNDS THROUGH RENTAL AND HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAMS AND THE PRESERVATION AND REHABILITATION OF EXISTING HOMES. LAKE COUNTY, WHICH IS IN CENTRAL FLORIDA, I THINK THERE COUNTY SEAT IS NEAR THIS AREA. WITH THEIR CDBG FUNDS THEY HAVE GIVEN SERVICES TO THE HOMELESS. HELP FOR HOMEBUYERS. AREAS OF RECREATION, AND FOCUS ON ENSURING THERE ARE NO BARRIERS TO ANYONE WHO IS PHYSICALLY HANDICAPPED. I GUESS THEY BUILT A NEW LIBRARY AS WELL. SO THOSE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE UNDERGOING RIGHT NOW. IT INVOLVES A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THE GOAL OR OUR CHALLENGES OUT TO MAKE SURE, WE ARE GETTING THE INFECTED AND CONCERNED CITIZENS INVOLVED. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE INVOLVE THE PUBLIC AND GIVE THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO COMMENT ON THE HOUSING SITUATION IN CLAY COUNTY. WE DID A FOCUS GROUP OF KEY STAKEHOLDERS LAST YEAR. WE DID HAVE SOME DELAYS WITH HUD THAT WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH. WE ARE GETTING READY TO SEND OUT A COMMUNITY SURVEY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO DAYS AND IT WILL BE ON THEIR WEBSITE. IT WILL ALSO BE ON THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WEBSITE AND OTHER WEBSITES. WE WILL BE USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE TO TAKE THE SURVEY AS POSSIBLE. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER TOWN HALL SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 18, THAT INFORMATION AND REGISTRATION WILL BE AVAILABLE ON YOUR WEBSITE AS WELL. THOSE METHODS, THEY SHOULD REALLY HELP US GET A PULSE OF THE COMMUNITY. OBVIOUSLY, THE MORE PARTICIPATION WE CAN GET, THE BETTER THE DATA. 13 FUNDS, THEY HAVE CERTAIN LIMITATIONS. THE ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES ARE FOR HOUSING SERVICES, PUBLIC FACILITIES, PUBLIC SERVICES, AND PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS WHAT THE COUNCIL IS PROVIDING. THE DRAFT PLAN WILL BE COMPLETED THIS SPRING. WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. OVER THE SUMMER. WE ANTICIPATE THE ADOPTION BY THE FALL OF 2021. AFTER THAT, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRAW DOWN FUNDS AND THE LAST NUMBER I HEARD WAS $800. WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN EXTENSIVE REPORT AND PROCESS. WE WILL WORK TO DO SO STRATEGICALLY. ONE THING I DID NOT MENTION, WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE FUNDS, IT LETS YOU THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY DETERMINE AND SHAPE AN ARCHITECT HOW YOU WANT THE FUNDS SPENT. THAT IS REALLY THE GREATEST VALUE. [00:25:02] THAT IS MY NAME AND MY PHONE NUMBER, AND MY E-MAIL ADDRESS. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REACH OUT, MY CONTACT PERSON IS SEATED OVER HERE. EITHER ONE OF US CAN PROVIDE INFORMATION IF YOU REQUIRE IT. THEY REQUIRED THE POPULATION 50 PLUS 1%. I SAW CLAY COUNTY HAS 48%. IT IS LESS THAN 50%. HOW WILL YOU PACKAGE THIS, TO COMPLY WITH THE NUMBERS. >> WE ANTICIPATE, THE DATA, BECAUSE YOU GET DATA AFTER THE FACT, THE DATA MAY BE OLD AND WE WILL GET NEW DATA AS IT COMES IN. THEN WE GO BACK THROUGH AND WE WORK WITH HUD TO ENSURE WE HAVE BOTH TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE. >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. >> WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT WE DO QUALIFY AS FAR AS MEETING THE LOW INCOME. IT IS A MATTER OF COMPLETING THE STEPS. THAT 40% REFERS TO THE INCOME IN THE COUNTY. SINCE WE HAVE VERY SMALL MUNICIPALITIES, WE HAVE MUCH MORE THAN 50% THAT LIVE IN THE COUNTY. IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE YOU HAVE TO GEOGRAPHICALLY, FOCUS ON AN AREA THAT HAS THE RIGHT POPULATION. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL LOOK FOR. >> WILL DO THAT? WILL WGI DO THAT I DO THAT? >> IT WILL BE WG I, OURSELVES AND STAFF. >> THE OTHER THING IS, THE ENTITLEMENT TO CDBG IS ANNUAL. CLAY COUNTY IS BLESSED, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THIS EVERY YEAR. YOU ARE ALREADY QUALIFIED, YOU WILL GET THE MONEY REGARDLESS AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT WILL WORK. >> WE DON'T LIKE TO COUNT OUR EGGS. >> IT IS $1 MILLION. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS 800,000. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS DIFFERENT. >> GOOD. I AM NOT SURE WHERE THE $800,000 PAYMENT. >> THAT WAS LAST YEAR. LIKE YOU SAID IT IS REOCCURRING. ONCE WE MEET THE PLANS WE DON'T HAVE TO REAPPLY. >> IT SHOULD BE A BIG WINDFALL FOR THE COUNTY. >> I HOPE SO. THANK YOU SUSAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THE TIME TODAY. [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] >> WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS? >> I HAD ONE. I CLOSED IT SORRY. IN THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE FOR CARE'S ACTS OF MONEY. INSTEAD OF PERSONAL IT SHOULD SAY PERSONNEL. I'M SORRY. THIS IS PAGE -- I APOLOGIZE. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. WE HAVE A 2ND AND A MOTION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [PUBLIC COMMENTS] THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. ONTO PUBLIC COMMENTS. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING TO US, YOU CAN CERTAINLY COME UP AT THIS TIME. MR. OTTO. >> JAMES OTTO, I AM DISAPPOINTED TO SEE THE TIME BEING CHANGED TO 4:00 P.M. EVEN MY COMMISSIONER COMING FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD IS NEW TO ALL OF THIS. I'M SURE ALL OF YOU GET UP BETWEEN 4:00 A.M. AND 9:00 A.M. SO, STARTING THE MEETING AT 4:0F STUFF YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA, WE SHOULD START THIS LIKE OTHER COUNTIES AT 10:00 A.M. AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE SHOULD NOT SUPPORT FOOTBALL IN K-12. [00:30:02] THIS IS CHILD ABUSE. WHAT ARE WE DOING. WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP KIDS SOCIALLY DISTANCE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS FOR KIDS TO DO. WE DO HAVE A HIGH RATE OF CHILD SUICIDE. WE NEED TO STOP THE ABUSE. THAT MEANS STARTING WITH FOOTBALL. THE CALL AND FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT. YOU GUYS ARE NOT BEING TRANSPARENT BY SHOVING ALL OF THIS AND TAKING TO HOURS OFF OF THE MEETING, NOT LETTING US PUT YOU ARE TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH A LOAN TO MAKE GRIDLOCK. ANYONE LOOKING TO RENT A PLACE OR BUY A PLACE YOU DOWN TO THE VILLAGES. IT IS ONE HOUR FROM DISNEY WORLD. YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE GRIDLOCK THAT IS BEING PLACED ON THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS. I TALKED ABOUT COUNTING YOUR EGGS. THAT IS WHAT THE LAST TWO BOARDS HAVE LOOKED AT. YOU ARE SAYING SPEND MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE. THAT IS WHY THE ROADS ARE THE WAY THEY ARE. THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS, THE SAME THINGS WE HAVE COME HERE AND TOLD YOU ABOUT. IT IS BEEN IGNORED. IT IS NOT RIGHT. WHEN YOU SLOW THE GROWTH, HE SAT UP HERE AND PAID FOR THIS MESS THAT YOU GUYS ARE TRYING TO GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW. IT NEEDS TO STOP. WE NEED TO GET WE HAVE A RIGHT TO SPEAK AT THESE MEETINGS. IF I CANNOT GO TO COURT, AND WE HAVE TO CALL IN THE COURTS, WHY CANNOT WE CALL IN THIS MEETING RIGHT NOW. THIS IS UNCALLED FOR. >> THANK YOU MR. OTTO. WE CHANGED TO 4:00 O'CLOCK TO HALF YEARS YEARS AGO. IT IS NOT A NEW TIME. DON'T GO AWAY THINKING IT IS SOMETHING WE JUST DID. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. [CONSENT AGENDA] IF NOT WE WILL CLOSE AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. PLEASE NOTE COMMISSIONERS, AND NUMBER THREE THE FINANCE MEETINGS, NUMBER TWO AND THREE, CAN YOU HELP US WITH THAT COURTNEY. >> ITEMS TWO AND THREE WHICH WORTH OF LAP AGREEMENTS, THE BUDGET RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE ATTACHED, I HAVE BEEN REVISED AND REATTACHED. THEY WERE REVISED TO RECOGNIZE FEDERAL REVENUES AND ESTABLISH NEW GRANT DIVISIONS. YOU CAN STILL APPROVE THEM BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU WERE AWARE THEY HAVE BEEN REVISED. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION ON NUMBER TWO ANYWAY. JUST TO? >> YES. CANCEL WE WILL PULL NUMBER TWO FROM THE FINANCE AND OTTO COMMITTEE. ANYTHING ELSE? >> WE WILL HOLD NUMBER TWO TO DISCUSS SEPARATELY. >> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM NUMBER TWO. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE GO BACK TO NUMBER TWO. THAT IS THE LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM AGREEMENT PROJECT. [2.  Finance Business] AND COMMISSIONER, WHEN DID YOU HAVE? >> THIS IS THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM GRANT FOR SIDEWALKS FROM CLAY HILL ELEMENTARY TO THE ROAD. THE QUESTION, CAN YOU FIND OUT, IF WE COULD, INSTEAD OF BUILDING THE SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES, I SPOKE TO SOME CONSTITUENTS AND THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO HAVE [00:35:02] THE SIDEWALK LONGER. IF WE COULD TAKE THAT INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT ON BOTH SIDES MAKE IT LONGER ON ONE SIDE ON THE SOUTH SIDE SO THERE WOULD BE ACCESS TO WALK TO SCHOOL. >> I GOT A PHONE CALL TODAY WITH THE COORDINATOR. I HAVE A CALL SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW TO PRESENT THIS TO WILLIAM WHO IS THE COORDINATOR. I WILL HAVE AN ANSWER TOMORROW. >> I DO NOT KNOW IF WE SHOULD MOVE APPROVAL TO ACCEPT THE GRANT. WE DON'T KNOW THE APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION THERE. WE DON'T WANT TO TURN DOWN FREE MONEY. THIS IS WHERE THE NORTHERN HALF IS SEPARATED OUT. WE CAN GET A VALUE OF THAT, AND SEE IF WE CAN DO A CHANGE ORDER TO THE PLANS AND NOT DELAY CONSTRUCTION. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS IN DURING THE SCHOOL BREAK. >> I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE GRANT. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND PERIOD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. >> LET'S GET INTO OUR DISCUSSIONS AND UPDATES. [4.  CARES Act Update] THE FIRST WOULD BE THE CARES ACT UPDATE. WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THAT? >> IT SHOULD BE RELATIVELY QUICK. >> SO, WHAT'S CHANGED IS WE HAVE 16 MILLION IN APPROVE REQUESTS FOR MONEY COMING BACK IN. WE HAVE 10 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED AT THE BEGINNING. WE ARE 60% OF THE ORIGINAL 17 MILLION. AND 77% OF THE MONEY WE ARE ASKING FOR REIMBURSEMENT. THAT IS THE STATUS OF CURRENT MONEY COMING IN. ALL GRANTS WERE APPROVED AND HOPEFULLY THAT MONEY WILL GO OUT THIS WEEK TO THE NONPROFITS. REAL QUICK ON RENTAL ASSISTANCE. 626 MILLION WAS THE TOTAL NUMBER THEY ALLOCATED. WE HAVE WORKED ON ASSIGNING A LEAD TO THEIR PROGRAM AND WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK THE FINAL PLANS AT THE NEXT MEETING AFTER WE HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT THAT THROUGH THE PROCESS. LATER ON IN YOUR MEETING, BUDGET TRANSFER TO SET UP THE ACCOUNTS SO WE CAN IRON THE PEOPLE WE NEED TO MANAGE THIS PROGRAM AND WORK ON GETTING THE CONSULTANT ON BOARD FOR THOSE VARIOUS ITEMS. THAT IS IT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> REFRESH MY MEMORY. IS THIS RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN ARREARS OR LOOKING FORWARD. >> I THINK THAT WILL BE UP TO YOU. WE WILL BRING OPTIONS TO YOU. YOU CAN GO UP TO 12 MONTHS IN ARREARS, SO, IF YOU CONTINUE THE PROGRAM THEY CAN GO UP TO THREE MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS IN THE FUTURE. WE WILL BE PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT WE THINK ARE THE BEST OPTIONS BASED ON DATA WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM VARIOUS ENTITIES AND WILL COME UP WITH A PLAN TO PRESENT IT TO YOU. >> NOT ONLY RENTAL IT CAN BE UTILITY ASSISTANCE TOO. >> UTILITY ASSISTANCE FOR RENTAL PROPERTIES. THIS PROGRAM HAS TO BE TIED TO RENTALS. ARE THEY STILL GOING AHEAD WITH NOTIFYING YOU SO MANY DAYS AHEAD ON REPORT -- REIMBURSEMENT. >> MOST OF THE THINGS WE HAVE LEFT, ARE PROJECTS WE NEED COMPLETION WITH. SOME OF THE MUNICIPALITY REIMBURSEMENTS WE JUST FINALIZED THIS WEEK. THE PROJECT AT KEYSTONE HEIGHTS, WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT APPROVAL. THAT IS KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AT. >> WHAT IS THE DEADLINE? >> THEY OFFERED TO EXTEND THE DATE LINE. WE TAKEN IT FOR THE SIX MONTHS. HOPEFULLY THE PAPERWORK WILL BE DONE, BUT THEY DID EXTENDED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EXTENDING IT FOR A YEAR. WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE COULD CLOSE OUT ON ALL OF OUR PAPERWORK APPROPRIATELY. [5.  COVID Update] >> THAT'S GET HEATHER HERE. SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. [00:40:03] SHE WILL GIVE US A COVID UPDATE. GOOD AFTERNOON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I GAVE YOU THREE HANDOUTS. ONE IS ABOUT THE POSITIVE CASES. YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAD SOME HIGH NUMBERS IN EARLY JANUARY AND WE ARE COMING DOWN NOW. THAT IS GOOD NEWS. THEN YOUR SURVEILLANCE DATA. THE SECOND ONE IS YOUR COUNTY LEVEL VACCINE SUMMARY. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT. NOT JUST THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THIS IS ANYONE IN THE COUNTY THAT IS VACCINATED. THEY MAY HAVE GOTTEN IT AT THE HOSPITAL, PUBLIX IF WE HAD ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS. THAT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE AREN'T. POPULATION 220,000 AND WE ARE LITTLE OVER 13,000. SO, WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. THE LAST ONE IS THE HOSPITAL DATA. THAT IS GOOD NEWS. WE ARE SEEING A DOWNWARD TREND. THIS REPORT WAS THIS MORNING. I LOOKED AT IT THIS MORNING. WE ARE DOWN TO 74 TOTAL HOSPITALIZED. BACK IN DECEMBER WE WERE AT 136. THE NUMBERS HAVE REALLY GONE DOWN. A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ABOUT THE VACCINATION. WE WILL PIVOT A LITTLE BIT OFF OF MODERNA INTO PFIZER. THE STATE HAD TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT. WE DO HAVE TO DO MORE OF A LOGISTICS BULL WITH THAT. WE ARE PIVOTING TO THAT. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MANAGE THAT. JOHN'S TEAM AND TROY HAVE BEEN GREAT HELPING US WITH THAT. WE ARE WORKING WITH ST. VINCENT TO GET A CONTRACT TO GET A REFRIGERATOR MOVED SO WE CAN DO THAT PARTNERSHIP. IT IS CLOSER THAN GOING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. WE ARE ABLE TO RAMP UP A LITTLE BIT. WE STARTED A SECOND DOSE THIS WEEK. NEXT WEEK WE WILL SEE THE FULL BRUNT OF DOUBLE DOSING. THE THIRD WEEKEND FEBRUARY WILL BE MORE CHALLENGING. YOU WILL GET MORE PFIZER WITH SECOND DOSES OF MODERNA AND THAT WILL BE OUR CRAZY WEEK. JOHN HAS WORKED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE STAFFING FOR THAT. SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT VARIANCE. THERE ARE VARIANTS OUT THERE. THIS IS VERY TYPICAL FOR VIRUSES TO MUTATE. WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE DATA SO FAR, THE ONE THAT WE MOSTLY SEE IS THE UK VERSION. THE SOUTH AFRICAN STRAND. THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS MORE UNCERTAIN. WE ARE DOING STUDIES, CURRENTLY THEY NEED TO KNOW IF THERE WILL BE A BOOSTER. MORE TO COME. I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WE ARE WATCHING THOSE CLOSELY AND TRACKING IT. WE ARE HOPING WE WILL NOT BE IN A CHASE GAME. LET ME EXPLAIN IT. WE CHASE THE VIRUS. WE BASED THE VACCINE ON WHAT WAS OUT THERE. WE CALL IT CHASING THE VACCINE OR CHASING THE VIRUS. WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT BECOMES MORE CHALLENGING EVERY YEAR. SO, WE ARE HOPING THE STRANDS DO NOT CHANGE QUICK ENOUGH THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET A VACCINE AND GET HERD IMMUNITY SO IT WON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THE VARIANCE. THAT WAS A LOT OF STUFF. I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE STRIVING FOR, HERD IMMUNITY. WE KNOW WHEN THE NUMBERS GET LOWER WE WILL HAVE A BREAKTHROUGH PRAYER THAT IS THE GOAL WE ARE TRYING TO REACH FOUR. IN THIS COUNTY, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 200,000 SHOTS. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO GET TO. WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO. >> THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, I HEARD VERY FEW EFFECTS FROM THE FIRST ONE BUT SOME FROM THE SECOND I DON'T KNOW IF I SPOKE TO THE WRONG PEOPLE. >> I HAD MY SECOND ONE YESTERDAY. THE FIRST ONE WAS SIMILAR TO US [00:45:01] TECHNICIANS SHOT. I FELT BAD LAST NIGHT. SO, YES, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM, THE FIRST SHOT IS CREATING NATURAL IMMUNITY. THE SECOND DOSES CREATING B CELLS WHICH IS PART OF YOUR IMMUNITY SELLS TO CREATE LONG-TERM MEMORY. THAT'S WHY YOU ARE GETTING THAT EFFECT. THIS MEANS YOUR SYSTEM IS WRITING TO CREATE ANTIBODIES. IT'S A GOOD THING IF YOU GET SICK FROM THE SECOND ONE? >> I DIDN'T EXACTLY SAY THAT. WE ARE SEEING THAT. WHAT WILL HAPPEN FOR SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE COVID POSITIVE I GOT THE VACCINATION. THEY WILL FEEL THAT IN THE FIRST SHOT COMPARED TO WHAT WE ARE FEELING WHO HAD NO EXPOSURE WE WILL FEEL IT IN THE SECOND SHOT. WHAT WE ARE SEEING, AND WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR COUNTERPARTS, WE ARE SEEING THAT PFIZER HAS MORE OF A SIDE EFFECT THAT YOU WILL FEEL MORE THAN THE MODERNA. I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IT WASN'T SO BAD THAT NO ONE SHOULD GET VACCINATED. PEOPLE SHOULD GET VACCINATED WHEN THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND THEY ARE IN THAT GROUPING. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> CAN YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE DOING RIGHT NOW? MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID THEY HAVE TRIED TO GET ON, THE APPOINTMENTS ARE TAKEN. SHOULD THEY BE GETTING THEM TOMORROW. >> I WILL LET JOHN HANDLE THAT. >> ALSO, WHEN THEY CANNOT GET ONLINE I HAVE IN-LAWS WHO DON'T USE THE COMPUTER. >> I AM HERE TO TALK TO ABOUT HURRICANES TODAY. JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VACCINE PROCESS WE HAVE BEEN DOING. WE HAVE BEEN VERY RELIABLE ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN UNTIL RECENTLY. WE COULD NOT REALLY SET UP A CALL CENTER, BECAUSE WE RECEIVED 3,000 WEEK ONE. 800 WEEK TWO. 0 WEEK THREE, AND LAST WEEK WE JUST RECEIVED MORE AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL RECEIVE MORE IN A REGULAR SETTING. LAST WEEK TO TALK, OUR HOST SERVER, WE LAUNCHED THIS AND WE HAD 43,000 PEOPLE WHO HIT THIS. IT DID HAVE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. NOW THERE WE ARE STARTING TO, THEY HAD -- IT WAS ACTUALLY A MICROSOFT SERVER THAT HAD THE ISSUES. NOTHING HERE LOCALLY. NOW THAT WE ARE SEEING THIS LOCAL, WE WILL START TO BUILD A PLAN OF SCHEDULING A CALL CENTER. WE ARE ALSO WORKING TO SCHEDULE SOME APPOINTMENTS TO HELP SENIORS WHO ARE TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGED BY MYSELF. RIGHT NOW IT IS A SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE. WE DON'T HAVE THE SUPPLY FOR THE DEMAND. WE ARE LOOKING IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, TO SEE WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE AND TRYING TO SCHEDULE APPOINTMENTS AND DO ONLINE SCHEDULING. WHEN WE RECEIVED THAT 800 APPOINTMENTS, WE COULD NOT SCHEDULE IN THAT TIME. WE ARE LOOKING AT CARVING OUT SOME FOR THE PHONE. I DIDN'T WANT TO BACK REVIEW, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SCHEDULING SYSTEM. >> ON THURSDAY, YOU WILL SEE THE GOVERNOR TALK ABOUT A STATE SHARE CARE SYSTEM. IT IS A SCHEDULING SYSTEM STATEWIDE. WE WERE VERY AGGRESSIVE AND LEANING FORWARD WITH THAT. WE MET WITH THE TEAM TODAY, WE HAD THE EXPERTS AND OTHER PARTNERS THERE. WE WILL CHOOSE NOT TO GO WITH THIS SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST NOW STANDING THE SYSTEM. WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANSWERS FOR. THEIR INTENTION WAS TO GET A 50,000 PERSON WAITING LIST AND CALL THOSE AS YOU WISH. THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THE WAITING LIST AND THEY WILL CALL THAT PERSON BACK. THEY WILL GIVE YOU A CALL IN A FEW WEEKS. I THINK IT IS NEW. I THINK IT WILL BE MORE SUCCESSFUL. RIGHT NOW WE WILL BACK OUT OF IT. I HAVE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL. WE DO HAVE A STATEWIDE SYSTEM ON [00:50:06] TUESDAY AND -- TUESDAY. AND WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR SYSTEM. WE DID HAVE SOME TALKS WITH OUR VENDOR AND WE WILL BACK OFF PEOPLE THINK THEY GET ON ON WEDNESDAY. TOMORROW WE WILL DO LIKE WE NORMALLY HAVE. MY ORIGINAL THING WAS, WE WILL ANNOUNCE THE NUMBER WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND THEN THE PER PORTAL WILL OPEN. YOU CAN GO ON OUR WEBSITE. THE DAYS WILL OPEN AND AS THEY FILL UP, WE WILL SHUT THE SYSTEM BACK DOWN. WE ARE WORKING WITH IT PARTNERS ABOUT TRYING TO, AS WE GET NEXT WEEK'S DOSE, WE WILL DO ONE OR TWO DAYS SO WE DON'T HAVE THE SURGERY AT ONCE. THEN WE WILL OPEN UP, IF JOHN HAS AN APPOINTMENT AND I WILL SHUT UP -- SHOW UP WE WON'T LET PEOPLE CANCEL. NOW WE WILL ALLOW CURRENT CANCELLATIONS. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS A PLAN ON WHERE TO TAKE THE DOSES. WHEREVER IT MAY BE. WE WILL GET TO A POINT, WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER VENUES COMING ONLINE. I WOULD SAY ST. VINCENT REALLY HELP US AND IT SHOWED PEOPLE NOT SHOWING UP. SO WHAT WE WILL START IS ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CANCEL THEIR APPOINTMENTS. WHEN THEY CANCEL IT WILL SHOW AVAILABLE. WE WILL NOT BE ANNOUNCING THOSE. IT WILL BE SOMETHING WE WILL KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR. NOW HOPEFULLY WE CAN SPREAD OUT THE APPOINTMENTS SO WE WON'T HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE AT ONE TIME. I HAD SOME PATIENTS WHO SAID THEY COULD GO TO OTHER PLACES. >> UNTIL LAST THURSDAY, IT WAS NATIONWIDE. THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED. THAT WAS WHAT I NOTE. THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED, IT IS THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA ONLY. IF THEY CAN GO TO ANOTHER COUNTY I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO IT. IT WILL PROBABLY BE ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO MONTHS WE HAVE 35,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE 65 AND OLDER. AND WE HAVE FRONTLINE MEDICAL WORKERS, AND WE RECEIVED JUST A FEW THOUSAND ALLOCATIONS. >> A GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. >> THE GOVERNOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE AND HE SAID, HE COULD DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF INOCULATIONS IF HE HAD THE PRODUCT. IS THAT TRUE? >> WE ARE PREPARED TO EXPAND WE WILL WORK WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS, OTHER PROVIDERS THAT WE CAN REALLOCATE. THEN IN APRIL, THE GOAL IS TO TAKE OVER THE BUILDING AND TRIPLE OUR FOOTPRINT. WE ARE PREPARED TO EXPAND. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE VACCINES TO DO IT. >> THOSE VACCINES ARE COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT QUICKSAND FROM THE FEDS TO THE STATE. THEY GET 260,000 FOR THE STATE. THEY CARVE OUT THE ONES THAT AR& FOR CVS AND WALGREENS. THEY CARVE OUT THE. >> DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT, THE STATE DOESN'T PHYSICALLY GET THEM THEY GET AN ALLOCATION AND WE GET THAT SHIP FROM THE MANUFACTURER. THE STATE GETS AN ALLOCATION NUMBER AND THEY SAY WHERE IT IS IT AND THEN WE SHIP IT. >> A WAY TO COME UP WITH A PROGRAM IS NOT THE ANSWER. IT IS GETTING US MORE VACCINES. >> 35,000, WE HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY AND THAT IS WHY YOUR DEMAND IS WHAT IT IS. [00:55:04] >> HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE DOWN. WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO? >> WE SAW SURGE BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAYS. PEOPLE GOT TOGETHER, AND AS MUCH AS PEOPLE DID NOT GO TO RESTAURANTS THEY STILL GATHERED IN OTHERS HOMES. WHAT DO WE DO WHEN PEOPLE GO TO OTHERS HOMES THEY DON'T WEAR A MASK. >> WILL WE HAVE A SUPER BOWL SURGE? >> NOT AT MY HOUSE, WE DON'T DO THE NFL. MAYBE IN OTHERS. WE NEED TO WATCH IT ON BIG SCREENS AT OUR OWN HOMES. >> I DID NOT HAVE A QUESTION BUT I WANTED TO COMMEND DIRECTOR WARD AND SAY THANK YOU AND SAY HOW VALUABLE YOU ARE TO OUR COUNTY. YOU PARTICIPATED ON A PANEL FOR THE COMMISSIONER TRAINING. I HAD TO JUMP OFF TO RUN INTO THE KEYSTONE HEIGHTS CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO, IF YOU SAW ME LEAVE IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU WERE >> EVERYONE APPRECIATED YOU. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR CLAY COUNTY. THAT'S FORTUNATE. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE FORTUNATE. I WAS KIND OF BLOWN AWAY, NOT TO CALL ABOUT PALM BEACH COUNTY, I THINK IT WAS THE COUNTY MANAGER. YOU HAD BETTER ANSWERS, SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR CLAY COUNTY. >> IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, WE WILL CALL THIS 650. >> WE WON'T DISTRACT IF YOU PUT ONE THIRD ONLINE WEDNESDAY, YOU WILL STILL GET THE SAME CARLSBERG. >> LIKE YOU SAID LAST WEEK WE HAD 43,000 PEOPLE THAT HIT THE SITE. IT WON'T BE AT 3:00 P.M. YOU WILL HAVE TO KEEP AND I -- YOU WILL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR CANCELLATIONS. ON WEDNESDAY WE WILL DO A COUNTY BRIEF BUT IT WON'T BE THE SAME BUILD UP TO HAVE THE RUSH. IT WILL BE SLOWER. UNTIL WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE THE PUSH. >> TROY, WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER. >> MAYBE YOU CAN HELP WITH THE MISCONCEPTION OR THE DISCUSSION ON IF THE STATUS PULLING BACK HOW WILL WE KNOW IF WE HAVE ENOUGH TO DO A SECOND DOSE ALONG WITH CONTINUING IT. >> WE ALREADY HAVE 3,000 OF THE SECOND DOSES. I HAVE THEM IN MY FREEZER NOW. THE NEXT 800 SHOULD BE COMING. THAT WILL COVER THE DOSES THAT WE HAVE. THE SECOND PART IS YOU DON'T GET MUCH LEAD TIME FOR THAT. IF YOU ARE A PLANNER IT IS A LITTLE ANXIETY DRIVEN BUT WE DO HAVE THAT. MANUFACTURERS ARE HOLDING THAT BACK. >> WE GET HALF OF THE ALLOCATION UPFRONT BASED ON THREE OR FOUR WEEKS, WE CREATED ONE DAY BEFORE. THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF ANXIETY PROVOKING. >> I SPOKE TO CONSTITUENTS AND THEY SAID IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU COULD PUT A DATE AND TIME ON THE WEBSITE. I ASSUME WE ARE PUTTING THIS STUFF UP ALL OF THE TIME. >> WHEN YOU HIT THE SITE 15 TIMES TRYING TO GET IN AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT IS OLD DATA,. >> I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. >> WE HEAR HOW FRUSTRATED THEY ARE. WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MORE VACCINES. THE WORST THING WE CAN DO IS BOOK AN APPOINTMENT FOR SOMETHING WE HOPE WE WILL GET. HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THAT BACK OUT. [01:00:01] THAT'S EVEN WORSE. I WISH I HAD 35,000 DOSES IN HERE AND I COULD GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEEDED. >> I SAW EARLIER TODAY, THE GOVERNOR PUT ON HIS FACEBOOK PAGE A STATEMENT THAT HE PUT OUT AND THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ARGUMENT AND THE STAFF ON WHO SAYS WHO IS OWNING THE VACCINE AND WHO IS DOING WHAT. YOU TURN ON THE NATIONAL NEWS AND CELEBRITIES ARE GETTING VACCINES WHO ARE NOT OVER 65 NOT HEALTHCARE WORKERS. HOW ARE THESE PEOPLE GETTING THE VACCINE. I KNOW THAT IS FRUSTRATING TO THOSE WHO DEPEND ON THE TRADITION. >> CORRECT, THIS DEVIATED TESTED TAD, EACH GOVERNOR CAN DO THAT. YOU MAY SEE THAT IN SOME OF THE STATES. I THINK I WAS READING ONE OF THE STATES DECIDED TEACHERS WOULD BE BEFORE SENIORS. THEY ARE MAKING THE DECISIONS ABOUT WHO IS BEING VACCINATED. >> I FELT LIKE THIS WAS A GOOD POINT TO TALK ABOUT. >> JOHN, TROY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS. ONE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE THE SHOTS. THAT SIDE OF IT, AS WE RAMP UP IT WILL BECOME. HEATHER IS THERE. IT IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE IN THIS THAT WE NEED TO HELP US TO FACILITATE ADMINISTRATIVELY. WE HAVE GONE OUT AND ASKED FOR VOLUNTEERS TO HELP US OUT. THIS IS JUST MORE THAN VOLUNTEERS. IT HAS TO BE DAY IN AND DAY OUT OF THE SAME PHONE CALL, TRACKING ALL OF THIS. IT BECOMES A HUGE BURDEN. WE ARE ON THIS CURB AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL PEAK. MY BOTTOM LINE IS, IT LOOKS LIKE SIX MONTHS. THE APPROXIMATE COST OF $300,000 WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO 12 PEOPLE. THE MONEY WOULD BE REIMBURSABLE. THIS IS A CHECK IN THE MAIL REIMBURSABLE. WE DO HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT UNDER RESERVES THAT WE HAD APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION FROM THE CARES ACT FUNDING. I WANTED TO BRIEF THE BOARD ON THAT. ANY CONCERNS THE BOARD HAVE AND THEN WE WOULD COME TO THE BOARD FOR FINAL APPROVAL. I WANTED TO GET A CONSENSUS AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO HELP OUT. >> I THINK WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED. WE DO HAVE THE MONEY FROM THE CARES ACT. I AM IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. >> I CANNOT THINK OF A MORE IMPORTANT THING THAT THE COUNTY AS TO DO. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING MORE IMPORTANT WE WILL HELP YOU. >> I AGREE. THIS FALLS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY. >> MY QUESTION IS, YOU HAVE QUALIFIED NURSES WHO CAN DO THE TASK. >> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NURSES LOCALLY AND BY THE END OF THIS WEEK WE WILL HAVE 12 NURSES FROM THE STATE THAT WILL BE AT OUR FACILITY ASSISTING US. WE DO HAVE A COMMITMENT THAT THEY WILL BE WITH US FOR SOME TIME. THEN WE WILL LOOK IN THE MARCH APRIL TAME FOR -- TIMEFRAME WHEN WE QUADRUPLE OUR FOOTPRINT. THEY JUST RECENTLY APPROVED YESTERDAY, REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA FOR ANY VACCINES. I THINK THAT SOUNDS GOOD BUT THAT WON'T BE A QUICK TURNAROUND. WE DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS WE WILL LOOK AT. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE GOOD ON NURSES AND IT APPEARS THE STATE WILL PROVIDE US CONTINUING NURSES AT THIS POINT. THIS IS AS WE EXPAND THE CALL CENTER. IT WILL BE A LARGER FOOTPRINT OF THAT. NIGHT -- RIGHT NOW, WHILE WE JOCKEY AROUND, THAT IS PULLING BACK FROM THE DUTIES THAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY COME AND SIT IN THE CALL CENTER OR WHEREVER, [01:05:01] THOSE COSTS ARE NOT REIMBURSABLE. THEY ARE BUDGETED. SO THIS IS THE PLAN WE WILL HAVE OF HIRING TEMPORARY EMPLOYEES. THIS IS AN ADDED EXPENSE. WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THAT AT ONE 100% REIMBURSEMENT. >> I DID WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE STAFF. WHEN INDIVIDUALS COME IN WE CALLED THEM GREETERS. WE WILL SEE IF THEY GOT THE RIGHT SECOND SHOT. THEY ALSO HAVE TO HELP A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS WITH THE CONSENT FORMS. IT'S A LOT MORE HANDS-ON. THEY HAVE TO FILL THE FORMS OUT AND EVERY SHOT HAS TO GO BACK WHICH TAKES 5 MINUTES PER SIDE. IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE. YOU HAVE TO PICK THE RIGHT PERSON AND THE FACT SHEET. YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT WITH THE INVENTORY. A LOT MORE LOGISTICS. >> PLUS, IF YOU ARE GIVING SHOTS OUT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU HEATHER AND JOHN. [17.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Public Hearing on the adoption of an ordinance amending Article 1 of Chapter 3 of the Clay County Code, Alcoholic Beverages, in order to provide for a limited exception to allow attendees of all ages to enter the alcohol zone during the Northeast Florida Scottish Games and Festival event (C. Grimm)] WE ARE AT 5:08 P.M. WE WILL GO TO THE TIME CERTAIN SPIRIT NUMBER 17 IS WHERE WE WILL PICK IT UP. COURTNEY, WILL YOU HANDLE THAT FOR US? >> IN CONNECTION WITH OUR ALCOHOL ORDINANCE. IT LIMITS ALCOHOL TO ENTRY ONLY BY THOSE LEGALLY ABLE TO PURCHASE ALCOHOL. IN THE PAST YOU HAD LIMITED EXCEPTIONS. ONE WAS FOR THE NORTHEAST FESTIVAL EVENT. THEY HAVE AGAIN ASKED TO HAVE AN EXCEPTION APPLIED FOR THEIR EVENT ON FEBRUARY 27, 2021. AT WHICH TIME THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT SO, THE ATTENDEES COULD BE LEGALLY ABLE TO PURCHASE AS LONG AS THEY ARE ACCOMPANIED BY SOMEONE WHO IS OF LEGAL AGE. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHY THEY ARE HAVING THE CHANGE. THE SCOTTISH GAMES WERE THE FIRST ONES THAT USE THIS. IT IS VERY LIMITED AND HARD FOR FAMILIES TO COME BECAUSE THE PARENTS ARE ALLOWED BUT THE CHILDREN ARE STUCK. LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE OPENED IT UP AND WE DID IT IN A LIMITED WAY. WE ONLY LIMIT IT TO ONE EVENT. THIS YEAR THEY HAVE TO COME BACK FOR THE SAME EXCEPTION. >> DO THEY HAVE TO EXPAND BASED ON COVID. >> THAT WILL BE THE NEXT APPROVAL PROCESS. THIS IS ONLY TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THE MIX. THEREFORE, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, IN THE PAST THEY HAVE DONE IT WITH A TENT AND PUT EVERYONE UNDER THERE. NOW IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO GET EVERYONE OUTSIDE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? >> THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN FOR ITEM NUMBER 17. >> DID YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING SIR? >> GOOD AFTERNOON. LAST YEAR, WHILE WE HAD A REQUEST FROM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO PUT IN A TEMPORARY AMENDMENT TO THE CHILDREN COULD COME IN. WE ARE STRICT WHEN THEY COME INTO THE AREA. THE OFFICIAL PHOTO ID. WE HAVE A WRISTBAND AND A HAND STAMP. PART OF VEHICLES ON THE [01:10:05] WRISTBAND. IF THEY ONLY HAVE PARTIAL, THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING. IT WORKED OUT VERY WELL. WE HAD THE OLD STAGE OUT THERE. IT WAS GREAT BECAUSE WE OPENED AN AREA. WE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH PEOPLE. LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A FAMILY EVENT. THIS YEAR, WHAT WE ARE ASKING, IN VIEW OF COVID AND SOCIAL DISTANCING, WE KIND OF MADE THE FAIRGROUNDS OUR ALCOHOL ZONE. WE STATED NO ALCOHOL GOES PAST A CERTAIN AREA. WE HAVE THE FALLBACK THAT IF ANYTHING GETS OUT OF HANDS, IN 26 YEARS DEALING WITH SCOTTISH GAMES, I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY PROBLEMS. BUT WE CAN'T SAY WE CAN JUST STOP THIS AND GO BACK TO THE OLD WAY. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW. >> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? I GUESS NOT. I NOTE YOU WILL BE CLOSE. >> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? >> JAMES OTTO. 2908 HIGHWAY 21. I WAS PRETTY MUCH AT THESE MEETINGS. THE FAIRGROUNDS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AN ALCOHOL FREE AREA. PEOPLE KEEP WANTING TO COME UP AND DO MORE. THIS IS THE WAY WE SET IT UP. YOU GET FUNDING. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A NONALCOHOLIC PLACE TOO. QUITE HONESTLY, YOU GUYS SIT HERE AND PUSH SMALL BUSINESSES, NOW YOU ARE GETTING INTO THE VENUE OF SMALL BUSINESSES. THAT IS NOT WITH THE COUNTY IS HERE FOR. IF WE WANT TO PUSH THIS, THEY ARE HERE FOR WHAT YOU SAID, YOU ARE HERE, YOU SHOULD BE SUPPORTING THESE ARE THE GOOD THINGS THAT THE COUNTY SHOULD BE SETTING UP FOR. STANDING UP AGAINST CHILD ABUSE NOT TALKING ABOUT FOOTBALL ALL OF THE TIME. THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE HERE FOR. THE SAFETY OF THE COUNTY. I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE AND THE BOARD AS ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT FOOTBALL. YOUR JOB IS FOR THE SAFETY OF THE ROADS AND TAKING CARE OF SPENDING THE COUNTY'S MONEY. THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU PARADE THROUGH HERE BECAUSE THEY KEEP LEAVING AND GOING SOMEWHERE ELE, THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING. WE DON'T NEED TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF SMALL BUSINESS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MISTRETTA. ANYONE ELSE? >> THANK YOU EVERYONE. I AM HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT GIBSON'S PROPOSAL. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS WE HAVE BEEN THERE. WELL, WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING WITH THE GROUP IN BRINGING THIS ORGANIZATION TO CLAY COUNTY. WE ARE PROUD OF THAT. I WILL LATER SEND IT TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AS FAR AS THE GAMES. WE HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM THAT WAS NOT RECTIFIED IN A MATTER OF MINUTES. WE ARE VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE GROUP AND IT IS ALWAYS BEEN IN OUR FOREFRONT THAT IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM WE TAKE CARE OF IT IMMEDIATELY. [01:15:03] THAT IS FROM FINANCIAL TOMORROW. THE CAPACITY TO HAVE SECURITY FOR THE LAST MANY YEARS. WE HAVE NEVER HAD TO ARREST A SINGLE PERSON. WE HAD TO CAUTION A FEW PEOPLE BUT NEVER ARREST ANYONE. WE HAVE ONLY HAD TO EXPEL ONE PERSON FROM THE EVENT. THIS IS 25,000 PEOPLE. IN MY OPINION THAT IS A GREAT RECORD. WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT, IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE OBVIOUS, COVID. WE CANNOT PUT ON THE PROGRAM MONEY THAT WE NEED TO GO TO OUR CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS SO THE IDEA WAS TO HOPEFULLY CHANGE THE BEVERAGE RULES. WITH IT BEING MONITORED BY THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I SHOW YOU, IF ANYTHING GOES AMISS, IT WILL ONLY BE ONCE AND FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES BECAUSE IT WILL BE RECTIFIED. I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN JEOPARDY OF EMBARRASSING OURSELVES OR OFFENDING ANYONE. PEOPLE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR US TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND I ASSURE YOU IT WILL BE DONE. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? IF NOT, I AM READY FOR A MOTION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? >> ANY -- ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [18.  Alcohol Permit Application - Northeast Florida Scottish Highland Games & Festival (K. Morgan)] THIS IS THE. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. KIMBERLY MORGAN BEFORE YOU HAVE THE PERMIT THAT GOES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE YOU WILL PROVED, THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS OF MEETING WITH THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, AS WELL AS THE CLAY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PARKS AND RECREATION. BEFORE YOU GET THE REQUEST, THE SALES WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE TENTED AREAS BUT PEOPLE CAN WALK FREELY, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TOO MUCH CONGREGATION. THAT PERMIT IS BEFORE YOU, AND THE COMMITTEE HAS APPROVED IT. WE ARE REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR KIMBERLY AT THIS TIME? IF NO QUESTIONS, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> EACH ONE OF THESE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON. WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL EXEMPTIONS. AT SOME POINT WE WANT TO VISIT THE OVERALL POLICY. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH EXPERIENCE THAT I DON'T THINK WE WILL CREATE ANY MAJOR RIOTS OUT THERE. SO, MAYBE WE CAN SEE ABOUT CRAFTING SOME OTHER KIND OF LANGUAGE TO GIVE US AN ORDER IN THE WATER BUT NOT HAVE TO APPROVE THIS EVERY TIME. >> THAT IS IN THE PLAN TO REVIEW THAT. WE KNOW THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE. WE DEFINITELY HEAR THAT REQUEST. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US APPROVING THE PERMIT, BUT THE ORDINANCE ITSELF MAY BE CHANGED. WE DID THIS TO DIP OUR TOE IN THE WATER. THEY WERE THE FIRST GROUP TO ACTUALLY DO THAT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS AND IT HAS WORKED OUT WELL IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE THEY CAN DRIVE AS REVENUE BUT IT DOES TURN INTO SCHOLARSHIPS. IS SOME SMALL BUSINESSES AND NONPROFIT. I DO AGREE WITH THE COMMISSION WE CAN LOOK AT IT BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE THE BOARD HAVE SOME INPUT INTO THAT. OTHER THAN THAT, I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD. [01:20:02] >> THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WHAT ARE THE DATES ON THE FESTIVAL THIS YEAR? FEBRUARY 27. >> WE WILL MOVE TO NUMBER 19. THIS IS THE ADOPTION OF THE [19.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to Adopt CPA 2020-09 to Change 21.3 acres from Rural Residential to Rural Fringe (E. Lehman)] LARGE-SCALE GOING FROM. >> AGAIN, THERE IS THE PROJECT. THIS IS THIS IS OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING. WHO IS HERE. KELLY, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP. >> KELLY HARDWICK. FIRST I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF, WE HAVE HAD A SMOOTH TRANSITION GETTING THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS. WE ARE BUILDING 26 LOTS, MOST ARE 100-FOOT WIDE. THEY ARE HUGE. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PROJECT WORKS WE HAVE TO GET IT REZONED. WE WERE GOING TO DO ASEPTIC TANK. I KNOW THEY WERE CONCERNED WHEN YOU FIRST PROPOSE THIS. BUT THROUGH YOUR MEETINGS, THEY HAVE COME TO SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND I COMMEND YOU FOR THE SIZE OF THE LODGE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? LET'S MOVE FORWARD. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AS TO THIS SPECIFIC PARCEL? >> MR. OTTO? >> JAMES OTTO. MY ADDRESS IS ON RECORD. A LOT OF THOSE HAVE ASKED FOR A BIGGER MAP SO WE CAN SEE THE AREA AROUND IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT ANCHOR LOTS FOR THEIR FAMILIES. I KNOW HE'S HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION. ALL OF THE CITIZENS WHO MOVED LIKE TO SEE, THEY CAN SEE PRIOR VIDEOS ON THE PRESENTATION. THE SACKING COMING TO THE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN COMING FOR 15 YEARS. I SPOKE TO THE WATER COMPANY AND THEY SAID THEY JUST DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL APPLY THE WADI -- WATER TO THE COUNTIES. IF WE COULD TOUCH ON THAT. I HAVE ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE ZONINGS FOR THE PROPERTIES SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. MAYBE ON THE WALL YOU COULD HAVE THE LIST. ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. DUMPSITE SPIRIT ALMOST THE LISTINGS ARE THEORISTS OF THE CITIZENS CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA. I WOULD JUST ASK AS I COME UP HERE TO SLOW THE GROWTH. SLOW GROWTH IS GOOD GROWTH. WE WANT OUR KIDS TO SURVIVE. WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS BEING HIT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. STUDENTS SAFETY FIRST. YOUR JOB IS THE SAFETY FOR THE ROADS. [01:25:04] NOT ABUSING KIDS WITH FOOTBALL AND KILLING US WITH THE STREETS. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A COMMENT ON THIS PARCEL? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING BRINGING BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION OR APPROVAL. >> MOVED TO APPROVAL. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [20.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing To Consider Rezoning Application Z-20-11 AR to RB (PC Vote 8-0 to Approve) (Commissioner Burke district) (E. Lehman)] THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE WILL GO ON TO NUMBER 20. FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER REZONING APPLICATION. MR. LEHMAN. >> THIS IS THE SAME ACREAGE. THIS WAS ADOPTED AT THE JANUARY 26 BOARD MEETING. THE APPLICANT WANT TO CHANGE IT. THEORETICALLY HE COULD DO THIS WITH 63 UNITS. HERE'S THE LOCATION. A FEW SIGNS SHOWING THE LOCATION AND THAT THE SIGN WAS OUT THERE. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN. THIS HAS SIMILAR DENSITY. >> ANY QUESTIONS? WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A SPECIFIC COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR REZONING APPLICATION? COMES -- >> MY NAME IS RUSSELL. WE KNOW EACH OTHER. 3120 MICHELLE COURT. I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. THAT IS THE 32 LOTS BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. I HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH THE ZONING BOARD. THIS IS NEW TO ME. I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. WE HAD SEVERAL CONCERNS. THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY CAN BASED ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE COMMISSION. >> THEY HAVE BEEN SHARING THE LATEST AND GREATEST PLANS. >> THIS THE SECOND THINK WAS THE SAFETY ASPECT OF BRINGING HOME ZEN. THEY COULD HAVE PUT A LOT OF PHONES AND THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A CONCERN. WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. ALSO, PART OF THE ALLURE WAS THE WOODED DRIVE USES WHERE ONCE WE TALKED TO KELLY, THEY SAID THEY WERE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ZONING CHANGES. HE TALKED TO US ABOUT TRYING TO LEAVE AS MANY OF THE TREES THAT GO DOWN, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T IMPEDE HIM. PUTTING THEM IN THE DRIVEWAYS AND HOUSES. THE NEXT STEP WILL BE A COUPLE OF THINGS. AND THERE IS ALSO ABOUT -- I AM RETIRED NOW ALSO I'M A [01:30:04] BIRDWATCHER, THERE ARE 6-8 NESTING BEHIND THE PROPERTY. IT MAY BE SLIGHTLY ADJACENT TO THE LAST LOT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DO NOT GET DISTURBED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE PROTECTED BUT THEY ARE PART OF THE BIRDS. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WALK THROUGH WE ARE OKAY. THE NEXT ONE WILL BE ROUGHLY A HALF ACRE. IF SHOWS WHAT WE HAVE. JEREMY IS COMMITTED AND THEY HAVE A FEW ITEMS THAT WILL HELP USING ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS. SO, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT, ARE THE BYLAWS. WE ARE AT 2400 SQUARE FEET. WE WERE LOOKING AT TARGETING 2,000. WE WERE HOPING WE COULD GET CLOSER SO THE PROPERTY VALUES COULD BE SIMILAR. THAT WAY WE ARE COMFORTABLE THAT TWO OF THE BIGGEST INVESTMENTS, YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR 4O1K. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE INVESTMENT IN THE HOUSE IS SECURE. OR AS SECURE AS IT CAN BE. >> THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> MR. OTTO. >> JAMES OTTO. 2908 HIGHWAY 21. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT WE NEED TREES TO BREATHE AND MAKE OXYGEN. I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE FROM 1946 UNTIL THE PRESENT TIME, ANYONE MAKING A CHANGE ON THE PROPERTY, WHETHER THEY LIVED THERE OR NOT. THAT WILL SHOW US THE CHANGES BACK AND FORTH THAT WE ARE DOING ANOTHER THING IS, IF WE COULD GET A MAP OF WHAT YOU HAVE APPROVED SO THE CITIZENS CAN SEE THE CONTRACTION THAT YOU HAVE APPROVED FOR US TO DEAL AND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO ON TOP OF IT. I SEE THE CITY MANAGERS TIRED, THAT IS WHY I SAID THE MEETINGS NEED TO START AT 2:00 P.M. AND NOT 4:00 P.M. ACTUALLY THEY SHOULD BE AT 10:0. YOU KNOW, I COME TO ALL OF THESE MEETINGS FOR A LONG TIME. I PROBABLY COME THE MOST. YOU KEEP IMPROVING STUFF UNTIL WE CAN'T DEAL WITH THE FLOODING. THEY TALKED ABOUT SAVING THE TREES. YOU PUT DOWN ASPHALT. THE SAME THING WE TALK ABOUT OVER AND OVER. THEN WE HAVE TAXPAYERS MONEY BUYING 300,000-DOLLAR HOME SPEAR THAT IS NOT RIGHT FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY. PUSHING THE GROPE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE LAST TWO BOARDS HAVE SAID THAT. WE DON'T HAVE IT BUT YOU SPEND MONEY LIKE A FIFTH-GRADER. >> THANK YOU MR. OTTO. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS. IF NOT WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRINGING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION OR EMOTION. >> I RECOMMEND APPROVAL. >> WE HAVE APPROVAL AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR THOUGHTS ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [21.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Final Public Hearing to Adopt CPA 2020-10: Transportation and Capital Improvement Element Policies to Incorporate Reference to the Mobility Fee (E. Lehman)] DO WE HAVE ANY OPPOSE. THE MOTION CARRIES 570. >> WE ARE ON TO ITEM 21. FINAL PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT CPA 2020 -- TEN. >> THESE WERE POLICIES TO CHANGE THE ADOPTION OF AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE MOBILITY FEE REFERENCE INTO THE TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO INCORPORATE THE MOBILITY FEE INSTEAD OF THE IMPACT FEE. WE TRANSMITTED THESE TO THE STATE AND NO COMMENTS OR CONCERNS. WE GOT A LETTER FROM DOT, SO IF THEY ARE HAPPY, I THINK THE REST OF THE STATE AGENCIES ARE HAPPY. SO WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO STOP THE SPIRIT. >> ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? >> LET'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. IS ANYONE INTERESTED IN COMING -- COMMENTING ON THE [01:35:01] COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? >> MR. OTTO. >> JAMES OTTO. 2908. I AM A LITTLE FLUSTERED. LIKE I SAID. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. WE HAVE THREE NEW COMMISSIONERS HERE. YOU CAN VOTE YES OR NO AND YOU CAN VOTE THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION. WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MEETINGS AND SEE THE BOARD HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN THE INFORMATION. THE CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THIS. CLAY COUNTY HAS TRIED TO BE NONTRANSPARENT NOT ALLOWING US TO SPEAK. >> HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THIS SPECIFIC ITEM. PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE FOR SPECIFICS. >> ARGUE ALLOWING CITIZENS TO CALL AND? >> YOUR 3 MINUTES TO COMMENT. >> ARGUE ALLOWING CITIZENS TO CALL AND MAKE COMMENTS. >> I WILL REPEAT MY STATEMENT. THIS IS YOUR TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE. >> AS WE ALL KNOW WE NEED SIDEWALKS. WE DON'T KNEE BALL FIELDS. >> BETH IS NOT ABOUT THE MOBILITY FEE. >> I'M SORRY THAT WAS THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM. AGAIN, WITH THE THREE NEW BOARD MEMBERS. I ASKED YOU TO PLEASE NOT VOTE ON THIS. THE MOBILITY FEE. THE IMPACT FEE. THIS HAS BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE FOR THE LAST TWO FULL BOARDS ON BELE THIS. THEY BUILT THREE PARTS OF THIS COUNTY. THEY BUILT IT WITHOUT THE IMPACT BE ON THE ROAD SPEAR WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE SAFETY ISSUES AND NOT BE BUILDING FOOTBALL FIELDS AND THINGS WE SHOULD NOT DO RIGHT NOW. THE MOBILITY FEE, I THINK THAT WAS AFTER SEPTEMBER 8 MEETING. I WOULD ASK THE CITIZENS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MEETING. IT WAS A VERY COMPLEX SITUATION. I WOULD ASK THE THREE NEW BOARD MEMBERS ARE CAREFUL VOTING ON THESE THINGS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. OTTO. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS. IF NOT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY DISCUSSION. IF NO DISCUSSION, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> OUR SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [22.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter as can be heard - Hudson BLVD and Seminole AVE ROW Vacations (R. Smith)] THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. ON TO NUMBER 22. THIS IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WE HAVE MR. SMITH. THIS IS FOR HUDSON BOULEVARD AND SEMINAL AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> THIS IS THE VACATION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHEN WE SPOKE LAST TIME THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS PUT THERE IN THE EARLY 1900S. IT GOES THROUGH AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY. I HAVE HAD THE RESEARCH PROPERLY POSTED. IT IS READY FOR VACATION. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. >> I AM READY FOR A VACATION MYSELF. >> NOT TODAY. >> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THIS IS A SINGLE LAND OWNER PROPERTY OWNER WHO HAS PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> YES, IT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD. A PORTION OF IT IS ON SHED AND A SINGLE LAND OWNER. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I AM IN FAVOR OF THE VACATION. I AM IN FAVOR. SO, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> PUBLIC HEARING. >> THAT HAS BEEN NOTED ON THE AGENDA BUT WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. SMITH? PUBLIC HEARING. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE VACATION ON HUDSON BOULEVARD AND SEMINAL AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY? [01:40:02] >> I DO NOT HAVE A CARD SO I CANNOT IDENTIFY YOU SIR. >> CAN YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF WHEN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, WE WILL APPRECIATE THAT. >> MY NAME IS TROY ANDERSON I AM THE LAND OWNER IN THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. WE BOUGHT PROPERTY ON EACH SIDE. RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE TWO PARTS OF THE ROAD THAT IS KEEPING THE PROPERTY FROM BEING CONTINUED. SO THAT IS WHERE I AM TRYING TO HAVE IT CLOSE. I DO NOT KNOW, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> THE ITEM HAS TO GO BEFORE THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN COMMENT. SO YOU CAN TAKE YOUR 3 MINUTES AND TELL US ANYTHING ELSE OR. >> WE CONTACT EVERYONE. ONLY ONE PERSON INVOLVED IT MAY IMPACT. THEY NEVER ANSWERED. NELSON ANDERSON ASKED US TO CONTACT HIM TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS GOOD. WE SENT HIM A CERTIFIED LETTER BUT NEVER GOT ANYTHING AT THIS POINT. I THINK THAT WAS JULY 21 WE JUST WANT TO GET IT STRAIGHTENED OUT SO WE CAN GET OUR PROPERTY SQUARED UP AND TAKEN CARE OF. >> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> YOU SENT A REGISTERED LETTER TO ANOTHER INTERESTED PARTY? >> THERE'S A LAND OWNER 900 FEET BEHIND OUR PROPERTY. HE HAS OWNED IT FOR 52 YEARS. HE IS IN ANOTHER STATE. THERE ARE TWO OTHER EASEMENTS THAT CAN BE USED TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY, BUT THE ONES WE ARE CLOSING IS THE MOST DIRECT SO NELSON ASKED US TO CONTACT HIM, TO MAKE SURE WE CORRESPONDED WITH HIM SO HE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON OR HAD A CHANCE TO VOICE HIS OPINION. LIKE I SAID, HE TOLD ME TOO GIVE HIM 30 DAYS. IT HAS BEEN 6-7 MONTHS. I DO HAVE THE RECEIPTS FROM WHERE HE RECEIVED THE CERTIFIED LETTER. HE IS -- >> HE'S THE ONLY ONE IMPACTED? >> HE HAS. >> I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. DO YOU KNOW HOW IT GOT THE NAME OF HUDSON BOULEVARD. THAT IMPLIES SOME BIG FREEWAY, DO YOU KNOW? >> NO, I DON'T. BUT WE HAD A BIG AREA CLOSED IN 2005. NOW IT IS PART OF ANOTHER BOULEVARD. USED TO RUN RIGHT THROUGH OUR FRONT YARD. I WAS TOLD THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE IT CLOSED WHEN I BOUGHT IT. >> IN 1900 IT WAS A HORSE AND BUGGY. >> THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING THROUGH THERE IN A LONG TIME BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING BUT THE WOODS RIGHT NOW. >> ANYTHIG ELSE FOR MR. ANDERSON? >> THANK YOU MR. ANDERSON. >> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? >> MR. OTTO, MAKE SURE YOU ARE SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE. >> JAMES OTTO, 2908, MIAMI BOULEVARD. HUDSON BOULEVARD. THAT WOULD BRING A LOT OF BILLS WITH PEOPLE ARE FLOODED YARDS. THEY CAN RELATE. IS THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, I DO NOT SEE ANY ZONING ON HERE. WILL THIS BE ANOTHER BARNYARD WEDDING THING? >> NO, NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. >> IT WON'T BE A BUSINESS ON A RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. IS THIS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? IS NOT COMMERCIAL. SO, THEY ARE NOT BABYSITTING THERE. YOU KNOW THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE ORDINANCE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WHY ARE WE LETTING A BUSINESS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. >> IT IS NOT A BUSINESS. CLEARLY, YOU HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GROWING SELF GOING IN THE COUNTY WITH THE TDC. >> MR. OTTO, THAT IS SHORT FOR RIGHT-OF-WAY. WHY DON'T YOU GET YOUR NOTES TOGETHER. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH HERE. [01:45:04] >> IT WOULD BE NICE IF THE AGENDA WAS MORE CLEAR ON A LOT OF THINGS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, ESTADO. ANYONE ELSE WITH ANYTHING, WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. >> I WILL SECOND THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO APPROVE. >> YOU HAVE A BETTER MEMORY THAN I DO. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. THANK YOU MR. ANDERSON FOR BEING [23.  5:00 p.m. or as soon thereafter can be heard: Ordinance to Amend the Capital Improvement Plan (R. Kantor)] HERE. >> NUMBER 23. AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. R. KANTOR, YOU HAVE THIS ONE COLLECTS. >> THIS UPDATES THE LINE AND PROJECTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT INCLUDES OUR BONDED ROAD PROJECTS IDENTIFYING BOTH PROJECTS IDENTIFYING THE FUND. REVENUES WERE UPDATED TO SHOW PROJECTIONS FOR ALL FIVE DISTRICTS. PLUS MONEY RECEIVED FROM CCU A. EXPENSES WERE UPDATED FOR BOTH CONTRACTS. STATE ROAD 23, WESTSIDE. STATE ROAD 23 RUNNERS DESIGN. BOND PROJECTS CARRYOVER AND MOBILIT PROJECTS DESIGN. >> OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CANCER AT THIS POINT? >> AND I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF WORK ON THIS. THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. ARE YOU HAPPY WITH WHERE YOU ARE AND WHERE THINGS SHOULD BE. >> I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH MANY THINGS. >> VERY GOOD. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF NOT WE WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN. MR. OTTO, REMEMBER YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE CIP AND THE CIA. >> CIE. JAMES OTTO. 2908 MIAMI BOULEVARD. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN. >> VERY GOOD. >> SO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AT THE TOP OF THAT LIST. POOR HEATHER WAS HERE CRYING AT THE PODIUM SAYING HOW BAD IT WAS FOR ALL OF HER EMPLOYEES. THEY COULD NOT MOVE AROUND INTO SOCIAL DISTANCE. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE LAST 10-15 YEARS. CLAY COUNTY'S PRIORITIES ARE MIXED UP. I MAY NOT GET EVERY AGENDA ITEM RIGHT, BUT I MAKE EVERY MEETING. WE DO NOT WANT THE FIELD OF DREAMS. IT IS UNCERTAIN TIMES. YOU HAVE TO WORK ON THE TRANSGENDER BATHROOMS THAT IS A BIG ISSUE RIGHT NOW. SO, WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS, THE CITIZENS WANT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS FIXED. LOOK AT THE MEETINGS HERE THAT ARE FULL. THE DRAINAGE. PEOPLE WANT THEIR ROADS FIXED. YOUR DISTRICT AS PEOPLE GETTING HIT WITH SCHOOL BUSES. KIDS ARE GETTING HIT WHILE WAITING FOR SCHOOL BUSES. TAKE I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MANY ACCIDENTS. THIS COUNTY DID NOT HAVE REPRESENTATION FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. WE DID HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS. WE DID NOT HAVE GOOD REPRESENTATION. AND RODNEY CAME IN HERE AND APOLOGIZED BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONERS WERE NOT BROUGHT UP TO SPEED. YOU THREE SHOULD BE APOLOGIZED TOO. YOU BOUGHT INTO A BIG MESS. NOW WE ARE STARTING AT 4:00 P.M., TO TALK ABOUT THESE HUGE PROBLEMS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY. WE HAVE A COMMISSIONER OVER HERE WHO'S FALLING ASLEEP AND YAWNING. >> MR. OTTO, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE CIP. >> CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. WHETHER PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM SPIRIT THAT IS CIP. WHAT ABOUT THE $60 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES. THEY WANT ALL OF THE MONEY. THE CHAIR SITS HERE AND COMPLAINS BECAUSE HE WANTS A LIGHT AT HIS INTERSECTION. IT IS NOT RIGHT WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING TO THIS COUNTY. I REALLY EXPECTED BETTER AFTER [01:50:04] THE LAST TWO BOARDS THAT WE HAVE HAD. I THOUGHT WE WOULD SPEND THE MONEY AND SUPPORT FOR QUICKLY HEALTH AND THE TRAILS TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF THE STREETS SO THEY WON'T GET HIT BY CARS. >> THANK YOU FOR MR. OTT. YOUR TIME IS UP. MR. OTTO, YOUR TIME IS UP. THANK YOU MR. OTTO. >> NEXT TIME, PLEASE STOP AT THE THREE MINUTE MARK WHEN YOU ARE ADVISED. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CIP. WE WILL TAKE IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> DO WE HAVE A SECOND PERIOD A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD. >> IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE DOING THIS A LOT. I THINK, IT IS TIME TO THINK ABOUT A POLICY TO DO THIS EVERY QUARTER. I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF YOU FEEL ABOUT DOING THE BUDGET EVERY MEETING. >> I THINK THE COUNTY MANAGER CAN EXPLAIN THAT. >> ORIGINALLY, DUE TO COVID, WE HAD TO REDO THE CIP TO FREE UP $50 MILLION. WE RECONSTITUTED THAT BACK EIGHT WEEKS AGO. THAT WAS THE INITIAL PURITY GOING IN HERE FOR THIS ONE, THERE ARE CHANGES WITH REGARD TO MOBILITY AND ADDING THE REVENUES THAT COME UP FEBRUARY 1. TAKE I WOULD NOT EXPECT IT TO CHANGE QUARTERLY. OTHER THAN, WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO LOOK AS FAR OUT AS WE CAN. WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. >> ANYTHING ELSE ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. >> WE ARE DONE WITH THE 5:00 P.M. CERTAIN SPIRIT WILL GO [6.  Lien Reduction] BACK TO NEW BUSINESS. OUR FAVORITE LIEN REDUCTION. >> TODAY, WE HAVE A LIEN REDUCTION REQUEST BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. IT IS FOR MS. TANYA) THIS IS CASE NUMBER CE -- 18 -- 049. THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR THE PREVIOUS OWNERS WHERE MS. RICE'S GRANDPARENTS. YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. SHE IS THEIR CURRENT POPULARITY OWNER. THE CASE WAS ACTIVE FOR TWO YEARS. WITH THE VIOLATIONS THIS STARTED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2018. AS OF JULY 10, 2020, THE VIOLATIONS WERE CORRECTED. THE LIENS TOTALED $880. EIGHT INSPECTIONS AT $100 A PIECE AT $800. CODE ENFORCEMENT CALCULATED THIS AT 6-INCH -- $1,680 PER THE RECOMMENDATION ON DECEMBER 3, AT THE LAST MEETING, SHE RECOMMENDED THAT WITH THE LIEN IT BE REDUCED TO 0. HER DECISION WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT VIOLATIONS WERE NOT CREATED BY THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER. ALSO SHE PUT TIME AND MONEY INTO BRINGING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE. AND THE TAXES ARE BEHIND BY THREE YEARS AND MS. RICE WILL BE PAYING THEM TO BRING THEM CURRENT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> A LITTLE BACKGROUND. [01:55:06] HER GRANDPARENTS OWNED IT SINCE THE EARLY 90S. THE GRANDMOTHER DIED IN 2017. WENT INTO PROBATE AFTER THE GRANDMOTHER DIED. MRS. RICE RATHER THAN RECEIVE THE PROPERTY. SHE WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. HE PASSED IN MARCH OF 2020. THAT IS WHEN SHE REALIZED THE LIEN EXISTED. SHE CLEANED IT UP. SHE CONTACTED US. SHE CLEANED IT UP. THEN ASKED FOR A REDUCTION. >> IF THE TIMING OF THIS, SINCE 2018, SEEMS TO BE IN LINE -- >> THE TREE WENT THROUGH THE MOBILE HOME DURING HURRICANE IRMA. THEY DID KNOW THAT, THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN. >> IRMA WAS 2017. THIS WAS NOT IN CONNECTION WITH THE HURRICANE. >> YES, SIR. -- YES, MA'AM. >> IN MY MIND SINCE IT IS AN INHERITANCE. THE ONLY QUESTION IS, DO WE GET OUR COSTS BACK? >> FIRST OF ALL, IT IS STILL REGISTERED TO ROBERT MICHAEL BOATWRIGHT. THE DEED DOES NOT CHANGE. >> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE DELAY IS DUE TO THE PROBATE OR THAT STUFF. THERE ARE THREE YEARS WORTH OF BACK TAXES. THE OTHER THING I NOTICED FROM THE RECORDS, IT WAS NEVER HOMESTEAD. SINCE 2015. IT WAS NOT HOMESTEAD. SO, THAT BRINGS TO QUESTION OUR PROCESS OF LIENS AND THAT STUFF. IT WAS NEVER HOMESTEAD. I CAN DETECT THAT IN THE RECORDS. >> SO IF THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE PROCESS? >> OUR PROCESS, ALLOWS FOR TAKING OVER THE PROPERTY IF IT IS NOT HOMESTEAD BUT WE DIDN'T. >> AND WE DO HAVE A PROCESS IN WHICH WE KEEP EACH CASE IN EACH DISTRICT. WE BROUGHT THOSE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE CAN BRING WE DO HAVE A PROCEDURE, IF IT IS HOMESTEAD. WE ARE NOT ALLOWED BY FLORIDA STATUTE TO TAKE POSSESSION. THIS WAS NOT HOMESTEAD. WHY DIDN'T WE TAKE ACTION? >> WE HAVE VERY LIMITED FUNDING TO DO THAT. SO IF I HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH LESS THAN $50,000, AND YOU ARE GIVEN THAT THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND OR IF WE HAVE CREATED ENOUGH DOLLARS TO KEEP IT. WE DO HAVE A LIST FOR THE PROCESS. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ON TOP UP THE LIST FOR THE TIME WE HAVE HAD A. THIS WOULD NOT BE AT THE TOP. >> TYPICALLY THEY ARE HOMESTEAD. >> YES, A LOT OF THEM ARE. >> BUT THIS ONE WAS NOT? >> BUT NONE THAT WE WOULD GO AFTER WOULD BE HOMESTEAD. >> HOW MUCH OF WE COLLECTED FROM PROPERTY SALES? >> WE PROBABLY DO FIVE OR SO. SOME OF THEM, DON'T EVEN SELL. THEY ARE JUST NOT DESIRABLE PROPERTIES. SOMETIMES WE GET ONE THAT WILL SELL FOR A GOOD AMOUNT. THIS PRESSURE WE PROBABLY MADE ABOUT $45,000. >> THE IDEA WAS TO TURN THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS. [02:00:06] I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ACCOUNTING OF WHAT WE HAVE TAKEN IN. >> HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT. I AM SYMPATHETIC TO MS. RICE. YOU INHERITED THE PROPERTY AND THE PROBLEMS THAT GO WITH THE. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAXPAYER IN THE COUNTY THAT AS TOUPEE SO, I AM NOT SURE I REALLY AGREE WITH TOTAL FORGIVENESS. AT THE LAST MEETING, WE WERE PRETTY STERN WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTED TO HAVE A LIEN FORGIVEN OR REDUCED SIGNIFICANTLY. WE PUT IT TO HIM, THAT IS NOT THE WAY IT WILL HAPPEN. MY GOAL HERE IS TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE COUNTY. WE COULD NOT DO IT BY CLEARING UP THE DISCREPANCIES ON THE PROPERTY. NOW ASK THEM TO PAY FOR THE EFFORT WE PUT INTO IT. THAT'S MY COMMENT. >> >> THIS WILL GIVE US A DEAL TO MOVE THE PROPERTY FORWARD AND GET IT CLEANED UP. ULTIMATELY THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. WE WANT THE VIOLATIONS TO BE CORRECTED. THE COMMISSIONER INDICATED WHEN HE RAN FOR OFFICE HE WAS IN SOMEONE'S LIVING ROOM, AND THERE WAS A HOME IN DISREPAIR, AND IT WAS TOUGH TO GET IT FIXED. I DON'T THINK THEY WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THE PERSON WHO OWNS IT GOT PUNISHED. THEY WOULD JUST LIKE YOU TO BE FIXED SO IT DID NOT IMPACT THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES. IN THIS CASE IT IS NOT A COMMERCIAL OPERATION. IT IS THE WOMAN WHO INHERITED. WE CAN GO BY THE MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATION WHICH IS 0. SHE THOUGHT THERE WAS ENOUGH EFFORT TO CLEAN UP AND PUT THE PROPERTY BACK INTO SHAPE OR WE CAN GO TO THE $1,600, WHICH WOULD BE THE REIMBURSEMENT OF TAXPAYERS MONEY FOR PUTTING THE EFFORT TO GET THE PROPERTY CLEANED UP. IT'S EITHER FORGIVENESS OF ZERO FOUR AT 1600. THE MAGISTRATE HAS MADE HER RECOMMENDATIONS AND A LOT OF TIME TO FOLLOW THAT. >> >> CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND? >> YES. I AM FROM NASSAU COUNTY. THIS PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY MY GRANDPARENTS LIKE A VACATION ON. I GREW UP FISHING ON THAT LAKE. MY GRANDFATHER WAS A DECORATED OFFICER. KEEP PASSING THE 80S. MY GRANDMOTHER PASSED IN 2017. SHE PASSED IN THE MIDDLE OF MARCH 2017. IRMA CAME THROUGH, AND DURING THAT TIME THE PROPERTY WAS IN PROBATE. WE WERE TOLD BY THE ATTORNEY THAT WE WERE NOT TO GO TO ANY OF THE PROPERTIES. WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO STEP ON ANY OF THAT PROPERTY. I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE OF MY DAD TO BE HONEST. I DID NOT FIND OUT UNTIL MY DAD SOLD HIS PROPERTY. THAT IS WHEN I FIND OUT HE WAS IN CONTACT THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED. WHEN MY DAD PASSED MAY OF 2020. THAT'S WHEN I STARTED MAKING THE NECESSARY PAPERWORK TO GET THE PROPERTY IN MY NAME. I AM A FLORIDA REALTOR. I WENT ON THE WEBSITE AND SAW IT WAS STILL IN MY GRANDPARENTS NAME. AT THAT.OUT. WHEN I CALLED, THEY TOLD ME ABOUT THE LIEN. I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET IT TITLED CORRECTLY. [02:05:07] THE LAST I CHECKED, CLAY COUNTY DOES HAVE THE DOCUMENTS. MAYBE IT'S NOT IN THE SYSTEM. I AM NOT SURE. SO, BASICALLY, I CAN TELL YOU AS A REALTOR. IF THE PROPERTY IS WORTH $10,000, I WOULD BE SURPRISED. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE PROPERTIES IN THAT CATEGORY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WILL DO WITH IT YET. I DO HAVE FOUR CHILDREN AND I WOULD LIKE TO PASS IT ON TO THEM BUT TO BE HONEST I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WILL DO WITH THE PROPERTY. IF I HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN WHAT THE PROPERTY IS WORTH, I DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS WORTH MY TIME. BASICALLY I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP IT IN THE FAMILY AS LONG AS I CAN. >> I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO THE MEETING. I VIEWED THE PROPERTY ON SUNDAY. IT IS CLEANED UP. I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL. ,. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MRS. RICE AT THIS TIME? >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. SO, TWO OPTIONS WE HAVE. ONE IS TO GO ALONG WITH THE MAGISTRATE'S RECOMMENDATIONS OR GO BACK TO THE $1,600 -- 1680, IN TERMS OF THAT STAFF REIMBURSEMENT. >> I WOULD SAY, IT IS TRUE I AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT IT IS WORTH. SHE HAS THE OPTION OF SELLING IT. I DO AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER THAT IT IS A DIFFERENT SITUATION SHE'S COMING NOT TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND FLIP IT. WE DO HAVE REAL STAFF COSTS IN THERE. I UNDERSTAND THE BACK TAX ISSUE AND THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM BUT SHE HAS TO SOLVE IT IN ORDER TO GET IT INTO HER NAME. WE KNOW THOSE ARE COSTS THAT DON'T CAPTURE WHAT THOSE PEOPLE DO. I DO LEAN TOWARDS -- I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FORGIVE THE LIEN WITH STAFF COSTS OF 1680. >> I SECOND PERIOD. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> I HEAR NONE. WE WILL CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? >> THE STAFF WILL NOTE THAT IT PASSES SO THE FEE WILL BE 1680. WE GO TO NUMBER SEVEN WHICH IS [7.  Cash Drawer Increase - Rosemary Hill Solid Waste Management Facility (SWMF) and Clay County Public Libraries (M. Towns / K. Walker / D. Sileo)] OUR CASH DRAWER INCREASE. ROSEMARY HILL SOLID WASTE MANAGEMENT FACILITY. AND MILTON, ARE YOU HANDLING THIS? >> GOOD EVENING. I AM YOUR INSTRUCTOR. I CAN HANDLE PART OF THIS. THIS IS A REQUEST TO INCREASE THE CASH DRAWER AMOUNT. CURRENTLY ROSEMARY HILL USES THIS AND THEY WANT TO INCREASE IT TO $750. TWO PRIMARY REASONS AND A THIRD BENEFIT. IT WILL ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN THE SAFETY WITH MONEY AS FAR AS BEST PRACTICES. SO STAFF WORK TENNANT HALF HOUR SHIFTS. THEY OFTEN DO NOT TAKE ANY KINDS OF BREAKS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT SOMEONE ELSE IN THEIR SPOT. THIS WOULD SATISFY THAT AND ALLOW US TO HELP TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER WORKING ENVIRONMENT. IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SECOND CASH DRAWER TO OPEN THE SECOND LANE DURING BUSY TIMES, SPECIFICALLY DURING THIS EVENT. THERE ARE SOMETIMES BUSY TIMES. [02:10:01] THIRD, DURING TIMES WHERE, WE OPERATE SIX DAYS PER WEEK. WE ALREADY DO NOT HAVE STAFF ON SATURDAYS. HOLIDAYS ARE ON THE MONDAY. WE PUT IN EXTENDED WEEKENDS. SOMETIMES WE HAVE PROBLEMS MAKING CHANGE BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAVE GOTTEN OVER THE WEEKEND. THIS HELPS US IN THAT MANNER TO HAVE CHANGED WE CAN'T DO IT WE NEED TO DO. WE DO HAVE DISCOMFORT. >> I'M HERE FOR KAREN WALKER. FOR THE LIBRARY SYSTEM, IT IS TO IMPLEMENT THE CHECKOUT SYSTEM. WE DO HAVE THIS GOING INTO FIVE BRANCHES. WE WANT TO PULL $50 INTO EACH CHECKOUT BECAUSE THEY WILL ACCEPT FINES AND GIVE CHANGE BACK TO THE CITIZENS. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR MILTON OR TROY? >> GO AHEAD COMMISSIONER. WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS? DEBBIE WAS ALSO LISTED. OVER THE YEARS, THE PRECEDENT WAS SET THAT CASH DRAWERS WERE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSIONER. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. BUT THE END OF MARCH WE WILL HAVE A CASH HANDLING POLICY. WE WERE WORKING ON IT WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE. IN ORDER TO APPROVE THIS, AND WHAT HAS DONE -- I WOULD BEEN DONE IN THE PAST. >> I THINK THAT IS IN THE INTEREST OF THE COUNTY MANAGER TO DO IT. IF WE COULD SOLVE IT, WE COULD HAVE OUR AUDITOR LOOK AT THE SYSTEM. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CASHIER. I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AND WE HAD TEACHERS COLLECTING $10,000 ON THE WEEKEND. THIS IS A LOT SMALLER. >> HEATHER HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN HELPING US TOO. >> WE LOOKED AT THAT AND IT HAS BEEN EFFICIENT UP TO THIS TIME. TO BE SOME TWEAKS AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MILTON OR TROY AT THIS TIME? >> I AM VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING THE SELF CHECKOUT SPIRIT ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. IF NOT WE CAN HAVE A MOTION. >> WE WANT TO INCREASE THE CASH DRAWER. >> SECOND PERIOD. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER EIGHT. IT IS THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT [8.  2021 Transportation Project Priorities to be Submitted to the First Coast TPO (E. Lehman)] PRIORITIES TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE FIRST KO'S TPL. MR. LEHMAN IS BACK. >> EVERY YEAR THEY REQUEST A LIST IN THE FOUR COUNTIES. WE HAVE OUR LIST HERE ON PAGE THREE OF THE MEMO. I HAVE A MAP HERE THAT SHOWS THE PRIORITIES. I WILL BRIEFLY GO OVER IT AGAIN. WE HAVE REORGANIZED A FEW FOR VARIOUS REASONS. THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, WIPE THE FOUR-LANE SPIRIT THEN EXTENDED BACK TO THE BOULEVARD. NUMBER TWO IS THE WIDENING OF THE STATE ROAD, AS YOU RECALL, WE ADOPTED THE POLICY SAYING THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD TO THE INTERCHANGE SHOULD BE ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITY SPIRIT WE ECHOED THAT POLICY. NUMBER THREE, STATE ROAD 21. THE OLD LIST, WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT THEY EXTENDED DOWN TO TWO TO 20. THAT REPRESENTS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS. THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING A STUDY FROM COLLINS ROAD DOWN TO THE END. THEY WILL EXTEND THIS STUDY. THESE ARE RELATIVELY LOW COST IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HELP THE STATE ROAD OPERATIONS. NUMBER FOUR, MOVING UP HIS RADAR [02:15:05] ROAD. WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT MOVING THERE AND THE COMPLEXES AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE ROAD, WE THINK, THE EXTENSION WILL BE A GOOD RELIEF. NOT JUST THE PARKWAY. WE CONTINUE TO GET EXTENSIONS THIS WAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER REQUEST THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO EXTEND. WE HAVE THE WORLD FAMOUS PROPOSAL TO GO TO THAT PORTION. WE CONTINUE TO GET TO THE END AND THIS WILL CONNECT US. NUMBER SIX, COUNTY ROAD 315. THIS IS A GOOD IMPROVEMENT. THAT IS NUMBER SIX. WE RECOMMEND MOVING NUMBER SEVEN DOWN FROM NUMBER TWO BECAUSE THIS PART OF IT IS BONDED. THIS IS THE PROBLEM AREA. THE REST IS NOT SO MUCH OF A PROBLEM, THE FINAL PROJECT IS THE ONLY ONE DUE TO THE LIST. AGAIN FROM THE 218 CONNECTOR, WHICH IS MOSTLY FUNDED BY REINHOLD. ONCE THIS GETS BUILT, YOU HAVE A FASTER PORTION HERE IT WILL PROVIDE A DIRECT SHOT. THAT IS THE LIST OF ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. THIS IS THE LOWEST PRIORITY. I DO HAVE A PROPOSED CHANGE AT THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY MANAGER. THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO DESIGNATE THE TRAIL. WE DO WANT TO APPLY FOR CENTRAL FUNDING. WE HAVE TALKED TO THE TPL. WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL HAVE A PROJECT AND YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT. THE OTHER TWO, I'M SURE THIS TRAIL AS AN APPROPRIATION AND WE CONTINUED TO OFFER SUPPORT FOR THAT EXTENSION. WE DO HAVE FOR REQUEST FROM THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THIS IS FOR STREET LIGHTING ON U.S. 17. SO, AN EXTENSIVE PORTION. THE REQUEST FROM THE SIDEWALK. THAT IS THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. AGAIN, WE REQUEST THE BOARD ADOPT THESE. >> THE ONLY ONE THAT GIVES ME HEARTBURN, WE BUMPED A BUNCH OF PROJECTS UP AHEAD OF IT. IT IS REALLY NEEDED. WHY IS STATE ROAD STATE ROAD 16, DLT FUNDING. I DON'T THINK THEY AREN'T NECESSARILY COMPETING. THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION. I THINK THE ONE GROUP MAY BUILD THIS PORTION. HOPEFULLY, I THINK WE WILL SEE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED BUT THE GROUP THERE. THIS WILL PROBABLY BUILD THE REST OF IT. I'M THINKING, BUT DEVELOPERS WILL BUILD THAT BUT WE CAN CHANGE THAT PRIORITY IF YOU WOULD LIKE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE IT. >> HOW DID THEY TAKE THIS AND PLUG THIS INTO WHAT THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH. HOW DOES IT GET -- >> JACKSONVILLE GETS THREE VOTES FOR EVERYONE WE HAVE HAD. WE HAVE HAD THE EXPRESSWAY AND PLAY FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS. IT WAS 90% OF THE BUDGET. WE HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO ASK FOR ANYTHING NEW. WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING THE TRAIL PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ON [02:20:05] THE MAINSTREAM LIST. THESE ROAD PROJECTS WILL BE TOUGH. THAT IS THE WAY THIS WILL FALL TOGETHER. THAT IS UNLESS, THERE IS A PILE OF MONEY COMING IN FROM SOMEPLACE. MAYBE THE NEW PRESIDENT WILL INJECT FUNDS INTO THE MIXER. RIGHT NOW, IT DOES NOT LOOK REALLY HOPEFUL. BUT WE WILL DO WHAT WE CAN. TYPICALLY THEY HAVE A LIST AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU DON'T QUALIFY FOR STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING ONLY FROM THE LIST. TYPICALLY WE RECOMMEND NONSTATE ROADS. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST TO MOVE IT UP. AT THE REQUEST OF DOT WE INCLUDED STATE ROAD 21 BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THE STUDY. THEY WILL FUND THAT ANYWAY. AND AGAIN, THE STATE 16 WAS A HIGH PRIORITY. MAYBE YOU DO WANT TO RAISE IT. BUT I AGREE, THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH STATE FUNDING. >> >> JUST FLIP-FLOP. >> I BELIEVE, THEY WILL PLAY A BIG PART DOING THIS. >> WE ARE ALMOST THERE AND WE ONLY HAD A LITTLE BIT LEFT TO GO. THE TAIL END OF IT IS THROUGH THE SWAMPLAND. I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> WHERE DOES SIGNALING COME IN. WHERE DOES SIGNALING COME IN? IS THAT A TPL ISSUE OR DO THEY -- >> THEY HAVE A WORK PROGRAM, IT'S MORE COORDINATION. THEY TYPICALLY DON'T DO INDIVIDUAL SIGNALS. >> YOU PUT APARTMENTS ON THE GROUND, YOU OPENING UP TO THE LIBRARY. >> THEY WILL DO A STUDY, AND THEY WOULD WORK WITH CLAY COUNTY TO PUT THE SIGNAL THERE. WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. MAYBE RICHARD CAN SAVE MORE. IF IT DOES WARRANT A SIGNAL. THEY MAY TALK ABOUT A CHANNEL IN THE INTERSECTION WHERE NO ONE CAN TAKE A LEFT AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A RIGHT. THAT IS A SAFETY ISSUE AS FAR AS CROSSING THERE. IT WILL BE A SAFETY ISSUE IF WE HAVE NO SIGNAL THERE. >> WE APPLIED FOR THE GRANT SEVERAL TIMES. >> THIS WOULD CONNECT TO THE NEW RADAR ROAD. IT WILL BE A SIGNAL THERE. THAT WHAT -- THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED. >> I WILL SPEAK TO IT. I'M SURE THAT WILL BE APPROVED BY FLORIDA DLT. THERE'S 180 APARTMENT UNITS. ONE OF THE REASONS IT WAS HIGHLY RATED IS THE CONNECTIVITY'S WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THAT MEANS DOING SOMETHING INTERNALLY. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THE ILLUMINATION. >> IF YOU PUT A FOUR-WAY STOP THERE YOU WILL HAVE TO GET RID OF THE ROTARY. >> BUT THIS WILL BE A FLORIDA DLT. WE CAN COMMISSION THAT AT THE PROPER TIME. I WOULD NOT WANT TO CLOSE OR RESTRICT THAT. THE PROBLEM WAS THE PROBLEM WAS [02:25:04] THEY WERE AFRAID THE PEOPLE ENTERING WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO SO. THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION. >> YOU PUT THE ROTARY IN AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO KEEP THE SIGNAL. >> IS JUST A QUESTION OF GETTING THE CARS THERE SAFELY. >> WE HAVE THE LAND. >> FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE THE LAND AND WE CAN MAKE THE ROTARY WORK PROPERLY. THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. >> MAYBE A STATUE IN THE CENTER. >> WATER COMING OUT OF THE. >> WE COULD LIST A LIST OF PRIORITIES. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT. >> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC PRIORITIES. IT TAKES YOU HOURS TO GO. THEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC SIGNALS. SOMEBODY WILL GET KILLED THERE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC PRIORITIES, FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC PRIORITIES TODAY. >> WE SPENT TIME TALKING ABOUT THINGS FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. MY PHONE RINGS EVERY DAY ON I'M NOT BEING FACETIOUS I'M JUST SAYING, WE SPENT 10 MINUTES TALKING ABOUT FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO KNOW HOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PROBLEMS FOR TODAY. WE GO BACK TO THE COLLEGE CONNECTOR. THIS COULD BE A KEY ROUTE TO GET THERE. WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO. WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING EXCEPT DOUBLE DECADE. THE PLANNING WAS, THE NEW EXPRESSWAY INTERCHANGE COULD TAKE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC OFF. MAYBE WHEN WE CONNECTED ALL THE WAY AROUND. THAT IS WHAT IT IS. IT TAKES ME TOO LIGHT CHANGES TO GET OUT OF MY SUBDIVISION. THEY ARE ALREADY STARTING RECONSTRUCTION AND FIXING SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS DONE. MAYBE IF THIS WAS PART OF SOLVING THE PROBLEM WHY DON'T WE PUT IT AS NUMBER ONE. >> THEY WILL ONLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN ONE AREA. TO GET THERE YOU HAVE TO CUT ANOTHER ROAD IN ALL THE WAY UP. THAT IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE. IN MY OPINION THAT IS THE ONLY FIX WE HAVE LEFT. >> WE ARE. >> THE ONLY CONNECTION WAS THERE. WE HAVE TO GET OVER THE WETLANDS. >> TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, I DON'T THINK THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND 21. THAT IS ALREADY BEING WORKED ON. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WILL REMAIN THAT WAY UNTIL THEY COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION. WHEN THEY DO IT WELL. IT WILL ALSO HELP WHEN THEY HAVE FOUR LANES COMING OFF. THEN THEY WON'T HAVE TO WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT GOING BACK UP THROUGH THE AREA RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION. >> ISN'T THAT DOWN ON THE PRIORITY LIST? >> ONE OF THE REASONS IT IS THERE, THAT IS ONE OF THE ROADS BEING FUNDED. [02:30:03] >> THIS PROJECT IS NOT BEING BONDED. >> THAT IS A DIFFERENT PROJECT THAN THE BONDING PROJECT. >> CORRECT. >> MR. CHAIRMAN. WE DID RECEIVE -- KAREN DID PASS ME THE LIST. THE TWO TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS ARE LOOKING GOOD FOR US. THIS IS A 45 MILLION-DOLLAR COSTS. AND RADAR ROAD. THE ESTIMATED COST IS 3.6 MILLION. BUT WHEN WE ASK, WE WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT ADDED TO ABOUT THE SITUATION. IT IS A DYNAMIC TYPE OF SITUATION. IF WE DO RECEIVE OTHER MONIES, THAT ALLOWS THIS TO BE FUNDED IN A DIFFERENT WAY, THIS WILL INCREASE THE PRIORITY UP TO 18 AND WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT. THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING TARGETS. THAT'S HOW I WOULD LOOK AT IT. YOU HAVE TO TRY TO HIT ONE IF NOT A COUPLE. THEN WE CAN SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE. WHAT'S INTERESTING, THE BONDED PROJECTS ARE NOT DEPICTED. THERE'S A LOT OF ASPHALT THAT'S BEING PUT DOWN. >> >> MAYBE OUR PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT HELPING WITH IMMEDIATE TRAFFIC. >> I KNOW YOU DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THIS. PATIENTS. >> WE HAVE BEEN HEARD. IN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE, THE SIGNALS ARE NOT OUR CONTROL. THEY ARE THE CONTRACTOR'S CONTROL. WE HAVE BEEN HEARD. THERE HAS BEEN ENOUGH CHATTER. I GET MULTIPLE CALLS THAT GOES TO THEIR I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT LIGHT. IT DOES TAKE THAT LONG. IT TOOK THAT LONG TO GO TO THE LOWS. THEY HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO GET IT NOT CORRECTED BUT HOPEFULLY IMPROVE. IT WILL NOT BE FIXED UNTIL IT IS DONE. YOU HAVE BEEN HEARD. IT DID NOT TAKE 45 MILLION BUCKS. IT JUST TOOK A LOT OF PEOPLE PULLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION. WHEN I EXPLAINED THAT TO THE RESIDENCE. THEY DON'T CURSE AT ME SO MUCH. IT IS THE CONTRACTOR. THEY WILL FIX THIS. I HOPE THAT HELPS. I GUESS MY POINT WAS, WHAT THE CONSTITUENTS WANT TO HEAR. I KNOW WE HAVE TO SAY THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE APPROVED BUT THE SECOND THING IS BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THE COUNTY MANAGER GAVE US. THAT PRIORITY LIST, MAYBE WE SHOULD PAY MORE ATTENTION. CLEARLY THAT IS GETTING APPROPRIATION. THINGS NEED TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT BY PREVIOUS COMMISSIONS. I THINK THAT, MAYBE THIS BODY SHOULD CONSIDER WHEN WE TABLE HAVING OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT LEGISLATED THAT TRACK LEGISLATIVE THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF MOVEMENT BUT I THINK THAT CASE IN POINT COMES BACK TO, WE NEED THIS GROUP OF FIVE PEOPLE ELECTED NEEDS TO AGREE ON THE PRIORITIES BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE LIST. ENTER YOUR POINT, BUT EXPRESSWAY HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF ATTENTION SO MAYBE A LOT PLAYED INTO THAT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY THE COUNTY AND THE TRAFFIC. >> I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT THEY TOLD ME. THAT GOES A COUPLE OF YEARS WHEN WE GOT A GRANT FOR THOSE SERVICE ROADS. ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE EXPRESSWAY, WAS EASIER TO GET THROUGH AND EXPLAINED TO THE GOVERNOR. THAT IS PROBABLY WHY IF IT MAKES IT THAT FAR TO BE CONSIDERED WILL BE IN THE SAME VEIN. GETTING BACK TO OUR LIST. I HAVE NO PROBLEM, IF YOU WANT TO FLIP-FLOP, AND IF YOU THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ONE OF THE OF [02:35:07] THE, WE CAN MOVE THAT UP. BUT WE MAY NOT WANT TO MOVE IT BECAUSE THAT WILL GO THROUGH AND I HAVE SENT THROUGH THAT TRAFFIC TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE HIGH SCHOOL. >> I AM FINE WITH WHAT HE SUGGESTED. >> THIS WOULD GO UNDER THE NON- CAPACITY LIST AND THE MOTION. OKAY. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE THE FLIP-FLOP ON THE ROADWAY LIST. >> I SECOND THE MOTION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. [9.  Consideration of Mobility Fee Credit Agreement for Black Sound Development (E. Lehman)] IT CARRIES 5-0. ONTO NUMBER NINE. CONSIDERATION OF THE MOBILITY FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT FOR BLACK SOUND DEVELOPMENT. MR. LEHMAN. >> THIS IS THE FIRST TO MOBILITY FEES WE HAVE SEEN. WE EXPECT THERE WILL BE MORE COMING DOWN THE PIKE AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS ON LAKE ASBURY. THESE ADDRESS THE TWO WORLDS INCLUDED IN THE PLAN. THE FIRST ONE WITH A BLACK SOUND, IS EAST-WEST, WHEN A. AGAIN, THESE WERE INCLUDED IN THE MOBILITY PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE GRAPHIC. HERE IT IS RIGHT HERE AND THESE ARE THE OTHER ONES WE WILL ADDRESS. AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT TONIGHT WITH THE DEVELOPER. I HAVE ASKED HER TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE REQUEST IS. SHE WILL TAKE IT FROM HERE, THIS IS THE BLACK SOUND PROJECT. >> GOOD EVENING. SUSAN FRAZIER. THIRTY-FIVE'S 17 PARK STREET IN JACKSONVILLE. WE HAVE TO DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS. ONE IS SEEKING TO FUND ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER YOUR MOBILITY FEE ORDINANCE. FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE, THE COUNTY HAD AN ORDINANCE AND IT THE VITA FEE AND THERE WAS NOT ANY PLACE. THERE WAS NOT A LIST OF THE ORDINANCE. WHEN YOU ADOPTED THE MOBILITY FEE THIS LAST FALL THERE WAS A LIST OF PROJECTS. THE COUNTY DECIDED THAT WAS THERE PRIORITIES AND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FACILITATED FUTURE TRANSPORTATION. YOUR BOND ISSUE ADDRESSES SOME OF THOSE ROADS. THE OTHERS ARE INTENDED TO BE FUNDED FROM REVENUE. THE COUNTY WILL COLLECT REVENUE FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT CALLED NEW CONSTRUCTION. THE MOBILITY FEE ORDINANCES ARE ALLOCATED TO DIFFERET DISTRICTS SO THEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT IN THE DISTRICT THEY ARE COLLECTED WITH SLIGHT VARIATION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, PART OF THE MOBILITY FEE, LET'S GO BACK ONE. SO THIS IS THE MAP. IF YOU SEE THE RED ROADS, THAT IS A FUNCTION OF WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE HIGHEST FEE IS IN LAKE ASBURY. THESE ARE THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTY. THEY GO DOWN IN DIFFERENT AREAS. NOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT NOT A LOT OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. SO THIS FEE IS LOWER. IN BANFIELD, THE FEE IS MIDDLING. MANY WERE MADE UNDER FAIR SHARE AGREEMENTS. THEY PAID FOR IT ALL ON THE DRI. THE PEOPLE LIVE THERE PAID THROUGH THEIR FEES. THEY PAID FOR THE WIDENING OF THE ROAD. SO THAT MECHANISM DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE. THIS IS THROUGH EIGHT DEVELOPER FEE. SO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT LAKE ASBURY YOU SEE THE ROADS, THE BOND ISSUE WILL PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF TWO DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS THAT WILL FUND TWO OF THE ROADS. THE FIRST AGREEMENT, IS DEVELOPER CALLED BLACK SOUND DEVELOPMENT. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND THIS IS THE VILLAGE MIXED USE PROJECT. IT IS LOCATED AT THE INTERCHANGE OF AND WE AND THE EXPRESSWAY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH. THIS AGREEMENT HAS A LANDOWNER [02:40:05] THAT IS VILLAGE PARK MIXED USE. IT ALLOWS BOOK CREDITS TO BE APPLIED TO THE ADJACENT LAND. THERE IS BRADLEY CREEK CROSSING. THIS GOES UP TO TOOL NINE. THERE ARE UNITS THAT ARE PART OF VILLAGE PARK THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED. IF YOU DRIVE UP THAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON ON THE BELTWAY INTERCHANGE. THOSE ROADS AND HOUSES WILL COME ONLINE WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. THIS IS AN INTERCHANGE VILLAGE CENTER. THAT WILL BE A COMMERCIAL AREA. IT IS ON THE MASTER PLAN. SO ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAP, THE ORANGE AREA AND BROWN AREA IS RESIDENTIAL. THE PLANS CONSIDERED UNDER THE AGREEMENTS ARE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN THIS IS BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE 206. WE ARE SEEING DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING AND THAT IS CAUSED BY THE BELTWAY CONSTRUCTION. THE ONE CLOSEST IS THIS VILLAGE CENTER THAT I JUST MENTIONED. THE NEXT AGREEMENT AND ONE THAT WAS MORE OF A SMALL SHOPPING AREA. THEY WILL HAVE GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS IN THE SMALLER AREA WILL BE A WALKABLE AREA AND HAVE THINGS LIKE LIBRARY ADJACENT TO IT. THE INITIAL CONSTRUCTION, YOU WILL CONSIDER IS BLACK SOUND GROWTH IT WAS 460 HOUSES. 60,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND SOME SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS. THIS IS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. THIS AGREEMENT WILL COMMIT THE LANDOWNER THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE PARKWAY. THIS IS ON THE MOBILITY FEE LIST. THE FIRST STEP SAYS WE WILL DEDICATE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. THE COUNTY WILL ON THAT PROPERTY. THE AGREEMENT SAYS THAT THIS DEDICATION WILL OCCUR BY 2021. THE CONSTRUCTION WHILE IT MAY OCCUR IN PHASES, THEY MAY DO CHUNKS, IT IS INTENDD TO BE COMPLETE BY DECEMBER 2025. IT DOES ALLOW FOR ONE EXTENSION, WHILE THE DEVELOPER HAS EVERY INTENTION TO COMPLETE THIS, CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NOT UNDER HIS CONTROL COMPLETELY. THE CONSTRUCTION WILL INCLUDE THE DEVELOPER TAKING ON AND THE MANAGEMENT OF THE ROADS, THE DEVELOPER WILL DO THAT. SO INSTEAD OF THE COUNTY SPENDING THE MONEY, THOSE FUNDS WILL COME AS A CREDIT. WE CONSTRUCTED A TWO LANE CONSTRUCTION. IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN. THIS WILL BE 24-FOOT LANES. CURBS AND STREET TREES. BECAUSE THIS IS AN APF ROAD, THAT IS WHY IT IS ON THE LIST. THERE WILL BE NO DRIVEWAYS. IT WILL HAVE SEPARATE ENTRANCES. IT WILL NOT HAVE DRIVEWAYS. THIS IS INTENDED TO MOVE TRAFFIC EFFICIENTLY FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. THE PRESIDENT IS A SIGN WHEN THE COUNTY MAKES CERTAIN ACCEPTANCES. THE AMOUNT AND THE AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED BECOMES AVAILABLE FOR CREDIT. YOU DON'T WRITE A CHECK AND THEY PUT IN THEIR BANK. THEY DON'T GET TO PLAY OFF PART OF THEIR LOAN, THEY GET A LEDGER AND IT SAYS WILL YOU MONEY. EVERY TIME A HOUSE COMES IN FROM ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND SAY I WOULD'VE WRITTEN YOU A MOBILITY FEE CHECK, I WILL INSTEAD AND YOU A VOUCHER AND YOU WILL TAKE THE MONEY I'LL PICK THE COUNTY DOES NOT WRITE A CHECK THEY DON'T GET A CHECK THEY WRITE AN ACCOUNT. THEY WILL DRAW DOWN ON THAT [02:45:05] LEISURE. THE WHOLE TIME, EVERYONE IS DRIVING ON THIS PAVEMENT. THE BENEFIT IS THE PAVEMENT ARRIVE BEFORE THE FUNDS ARE USED. IT ISN'T A CHECK THAT HAS TO GO INTO THE CAPITAL PROGRAM. WHEN WE FINISHED THE CONSTRUCTION WHETHER IT IS IN PIECES, AS EACH PIECE COMES AND THERE'S A CALCULATION AND THAT GOES ON THE LEDGER. IF IT'S BUILT THAT ONE, THE COUNTY WILL ACCEPT THAT, THE DEVELOPER HIRES CONSTRUCTIONS AND COMPANIES AND THEY MANAGE THE CONTRACT AND THERE IS JUST AS IF YOU'VE DONE THIS. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE THE HOUSES WERE THERE. YOU WON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. THE ROADS AREN'T THERE BEFORE THE PROBLEM IS THERE. WHEN THE HOUSES ARE BUILT, THERE'S A ROAD FOR THEM TO DRIVE ON. THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WON'T BE ON THE ROAD. THEY WILL COME OUT TO THIS ROAD AND THEY WILL GO NORTH AND IF YOU GO BACK, IT'S RIGHT ON IN THE AT THE INTERCHANGE AMERICAN FOR COME SOUTH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE TWO SCHOOLS ARE. THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMING. THE PLAN WAS APPROVED AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE COUNTY FORESAW. THESE STEP INTO YOUR SHOES BEFORE YOU COULD DO IT. THE ALTERNATIVE TO THIS IS THE COUNTY COLLECTS THE MONEY. AS EACH HOUSE COMES IN. YOU DO BUILD ONE OF THESE ROADS. WHEN YOU SAVE YOUR MONEY YOU BUILD THE NEXT ROAD. THIS COULD BE TEN OR 12 YEARS OF IF IT WASN'T DONE IN A MANNER LIKE THIS. SO THEY CONTEMPLATE THIS. THE DEVELOPER DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD DO AND MAKING THIS HAPPEN. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO BRING THIS TO YOU AS THE FIRST OF MANY. WE HOPE THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT PUTS THIS OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO USE. SO, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE LAST SLIDE. THIS IS WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED. THE COUNTY DOES NOT WRITE A CHECK. WE WORK ON THIS SYSTEM UNTIL THE MONEY IS GONE. IT IS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER. IN THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT. IN THIS AGREEMENT FOR BLACK SOUND, THE MOBILITY FEE, CREDIT WILL EXCEED -- WILL EXCEED THE AMOUNT OF MONEY ANTICIPATED TO BE NEEDED. SO THERE IS A CREDIT OF $9 MILLION. THERE IS A DOCUMENT IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS YOU IF YOU TOOK THE HOUSES AND YOU ASSIGN THEM AND OBLIGATION, THEY WILL OWE ABOUT $4 MILLION. THIS DEVELOPER WILL BUILD $9 MILLION WORTH OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS. HE WILL APPLY THIS AND WHEN HE GETS TO THAT POINT, AND HE HAS THAT BUILT UP, EVERYTHING AFTER THAT HE CAN TRADE. HE CAN TRANSFER TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS. SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. HE'S ON THE STREET WITH HIS TRENCHCOAT. SO DEVELOPERS WHO WOULD PAY THE COUNTY THERE IS NO COERCION THERE IS INCENTIVE TO BUY. IN THE END OF THE COUNTY PAYS FOR IT ALL. THEY DON'T RECEIVE THE FEES. BUT IN ESSENCE THEY DID NOT WAIT TO COLLECT THEM. THEY ARE PAID BACK OVER TIME. THIS IS THE PROJECT. I DID NOT HAVE THIS MAP IN MY PRESENTATION BUT I AM HAPPY TO PASS IT OUT. THE FULL PROJECTS MAKE THE CONNECTION THIS IS 1A. THE NEXT ONE WE WILL TALK ABOUT WILL TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY DOWN HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE THIS CREATES THE [02:50:02] BYPASS FOR THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WE HAVE. THE DEVELOPERS TOM YOUNG. MANY OF YOU KNOW HIM AS PHIL YOUNG SON. PHIL WAS A LONGTIME DEVELOPER AND TOM HAS STEPPED INTO HIS SHOES. HE IS HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROJECT AND PROGRESS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. THEN WE WILL MAKE A SIMILAR PRESENTATION ON THE NEXT ONE IF YOU LIKE. >> I WORKED ON THIS PROJECT SINCE 2004. WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE THIS COME TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN START DOING WHAT WE WANT. SUSAN, AND ON THE ISSUES AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE. SHE MENTIONED THE FIRST PHASE IS UNDERWAY WITH A FEW HOUSES BEING BUILT. THE NEXT PHASE, HAS BEEN DESIGNED AND SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY FOR REVIEW FOR THE NEXT 74 UNITS. NEGOTIATIONS ARE IN PLACE. WE'RE JUST WAITING TO GET THEM THROUGH THE REALISTIC COMMITTEES. BEING OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS, WE BEGIN THE DESIGN FOR THE ROADWAY FOR THE FIRST PHASE. THAT IS PRETTY BIG. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE, SOME ENGINEERING DONE AT THAT POINT WE WILL SPEND A LOT OF TIME TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYTHING RIGHT. THEN WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, BUILD THESE PHASES OF THE RESIDENCE. GO BACK WITH THE ROAD. WE CAN START BUILDING THE ROAD AT THE SAME TIME. WHEN THE HOUSES ARE READY TO BE OCCUPIED, THE ROAD IS ALREADY IN PLACE. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT AND A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. MY QUESTION IS, I HAD A CONFERENCE WITH THEY WERE SAYING PART OF THE ITEMS ON THE LIST ARE DONE IN THIS PROJECT, WHY DID WE NOT INSIST ON HAVING THE REST OF THE ROAD BEING BUILT. THIS SECTION THAT GOES FROM HERE AND CONNECTS AND THE ONE THAT GOES THIS WAY. OUR PLAN, OUR OVERALL PLAN CALLS FOR THOSE BEING DONE. THERE IS A LOT OF ROADWAY ON THESE PIECES OF PROPERTY. I AM THINKING, IF WE DO NOT PUSH THE POINT NOW, IT WON'T HAPPEN. THAT IS HOW IT WOULD HAVE TO WORK. WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTRIBUTE& THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT IS THE DEVELOPERS OPTION TO DETERMINE A MUCH THEY WANT TO FINANCE AND HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO PAY MOBILITY FEES. WE CANNOT FORCE THEM TO BUILD MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY. THEY HAVE EXPENSES TO. WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO MORE THAN THEY ARE WILLING TO DO. SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT SELLING THEM. ARE THERE EXTRA MOBILITY FEES. THEY WILL GET CREDITS FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS. A LITTLE MORE THAN TWICE. STATE LAW INDICATES YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE IMPACT FEES. THEY OBVIOUSLY GET TO TRANSFER THOSE WITHIN THE AREA IF THEY HAVE THE ABILITY. >> BUT THERE WOULD BE A CHANCE TO DO THAT. >> AND IF WE CHOOSE TO APPROVE THIS TODAY. >> WE WOULD HAVE TO GENERATE REVENUE THROUGH FEBRUARY 1 THE [02:55:09] EFFECTIVE DATE. WE WOULD HAVE TO GENERATE MORE REVENUE. THIS IS AS HOUSES COME ON BOARD. >> I GUESS WHAT I AM ASKING IS, THERE IS MONEY LEFT OVER. MONEY TO BUILD THE ROADWAY CRACKS. >> NOT RIGHT NOW. >> WHEN THEY START SELLING HOUSES. >> THEY SAID THEY WOULD BUILD A ROAD BEFORE ANYONE ELSE MOVED IN. THEN YOU SAID THEY WOULD BUILD IT BEFORE IT WAS AVAILABLE. >> WHEN I START CLEARING A SUBDIVISION, THAT IS 18 MONTHS BEFORE. SO, IF I GIVE YOU THAT IMPRESSION, I APOLOGIZE. >> A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS NOT OUR PROPERTY. SO WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. THERE ARE COUPLE OF THINGS. WITH THE EXCESS MOBILITY FEES AND THE ROAD WE ARE BUILDING, THAT IS A ROAD FOR CAPACITY OF 14 OUNCES. MAYBE 480 HOUSES. WE ARE BUILDING THAT EXTRA ROAD SO, IT'S NOT JUST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE COUNTY. SO, THAT IS WHERE YOU GET THE DISCONNECT. I WOULD LOVE IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE WETLANDS AND WE COULD BUILD OUT THERE. BUT WE DON'T. WITH THE REST OF IT, AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER, WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN HELP. WE DO HAVE LIMITS OF THE CREDIT. WE ARE STILL PRETTY SMALL. SO, LETS WE SAY OKAY AND YOU WALK OUT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE LEVERAGE. >> I CANNOT COMMIT TO SAYING WHAT PORTION WE NEED, THEY NEED INSURANCE OF WHAT WILL BE PAID BACK. IT IS A PRETTY COMPLEX CALCULATION. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME TO LOOK AT IT. BUT YES, I CAN'T GIVE YOU A DEFINITIVE ANSWER. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY BUT, THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY RIGHT NOW. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE 1,973. WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. >> I AM. I'M TRYING TO TWIST YOUR ARM. >> I THINK YOU CAN TRUST, WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. IF I GIVE YOU A COMMITMENT THAT WE WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY WE WILL DO IT. IT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY. WE WILL BE HAPPY TO DO IT. >> HAVE YOU LOOKED AT TRYING TO GET THAT BUILT BY SOMEONE RECENTLY? >> NO, NOT YET BUT WE WILL. THEY WANTED TO BUILD A STUMP THERE AND WE SAID THAT DOES NOT DO US ANY GOOD. WE ENCOURAGE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IF POSSIBLE FOR IT TO BE CONTRIBUTED. THAT GETS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> AT SOME POINT, IF THEY DO NOT STEP UP AND HAVE ENOUGH MONEY, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT. BUT WE EVENTUALLY NEED ENOUGH MONEY TO BUILD THE ROAD. >> WE WANTED THE MONEY UP FRONT. >> CAN ASK A QUESTION CRACKS. >> TRAVEL WE GET MOBILITY FEES TO BUILD ROADS IF THESE CREDITS ARE OUT THERE FLOATING AROUND. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WILL GENERATE MONEY TO BUILD ROADS IF THE MONEY IS FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS WOULD NOT BE OUT THERE. THE RATES FOR RESIDENTIAL'S BEEN INCREASED. SO, HOPEFULLY, IF THE PLAN WORKS, THERE IS A PLACE TO USE UP THE CREDITS. [03:00:15] FOR INSTANCE. THERE IS A PROJECT CALLED CROSS CREEK. THEY WILL NOT GET ANY CREDITS. OTHERS THROUGH HERE, THERE WOULD BE NO CREDITS. THIS IS BASED ON CREDITS. A MOBILITY FEE PAID. THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO GENERATE THE PLAN. SO IF THEY SCREWED UP, THAT IS WHY WE PAY THEM GOOD MONEY. THERE SHOULD BE ENOUGH EVEN WITH CREDITS TO PAY FOR THE ROAD. WE WANTED TO SET IT UP AND THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD WORK. >> WILL THEY SAY I HAVE TO WRITE A CHECK AND THIS PERSON BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT AT THIS AREA THINK ANY CREDIT. >> RIGHT HERE, DR HORTON IS BUILDING THIS. IT WILL BE TRANSPARENT. DR HORTON WILL PLAY THE MOBILITY FEE AND IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE HOUSE. >> ONE WAY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH YOU FEEL LIKE THERE ARE EXTRA CREDITS FLOATING AROUND, YOU DON'T NEED TO COLLECT THE MOBILITY FEE BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILDING IT. THEY ARE DOING IT SO YOU DON'T NEED $9 MILLION WORTH OF CREDIT. >> ON THE SCHOOL BOARD WE HAD PEOPLE WHO WERE GIVEN IMPACT FEE CREDITS AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND 20 YEARS LATER, THE SCHOOL BOARD COULD NOT DO REPAIRS OR BUILD SCHOOLS AND HAD TO AT THE CITIZENS. IN FACT THEY PASSED A TAX ON THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS FOR CREDITS THANK YOU ISSUE. I GUESS MY HEADACHE IS THEY COULD OUTLIVE THE DEVELOPMENT. WE THINK THESE PLACES WILL COME TO LAKE ASBURY BUT WE DON'T HAVE A GUARANTEE. THERE'S NO SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE FEES VERSUS IMPACT FEES I DO NOT TRY DEVELOPMENT I JUST HAVE A HEADACHE ABOUT THESE FEES THAT EXCEED THE COSTS. I AM STRUGGLING WITH THAT. IF YOU ONLY WANTED TO GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR WHAT THEY NEED, THEN YOU WON'T HAVE THE WHOLE ROLE BUILT. THEY WOULD BUILD THE ROAD TO THE 4 MILLION-DOLLAR CREDIT AND STOP. WE FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE WHOLE ROLE BUILT AND WE WOULD GIVE THEM THE FULL PRICE SO WE HAVE THE ROAD. >> >> IF I'M GOING TO GO BUY A HOUSE IN A NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THE ROAD IS ONLY HALFWAY THERE, I ONLY HELP YOUR. >> THE $4 MILLION THEY NEED FOR THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THE ROAD ONLY SERVICES THAT AREA. THEY DON'T NEED THE OTHER PART OF IT BECAUSE GOD'S WILL CONNECTS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH. >> IF WE DON'T GET THE NORTH-SOUTH ENDED NOW, IT WON'T HAPPEN. YOU WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR THE ROAD AT SOME POINT. >> THAT IS THE NEXT AGREEMENT THE MANAGER TALKING ABOUT IS OWNED BY THE NEXT DEVELOPER. IN THIS PROJECT THEY ARE GIVING THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEY WILL BUILD THAT OLD ROLE. [03:05:05] I SPOKE TO MY CLIENT. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD ABOUT BUILDING THE ROAD AND GETTING CREDIT, WHILE I HAVE A CREDIT, EVEN IF I COME BACK 12 YEARS LATER AND SAY I SHOVE A CREDIT, EVERYONE ENJOYED THE BENEFIT OF THAT ROAD BEFORE I CAME BACK. SO ONE GROUP WHY DIDN'T THE FREEWAY. THEY DID THAT FOR 20 YEARS. THEY PAID UP FRONT. EVERYONE IN CLAY COUNTY ENJOYED ALL THE LANES AND GOT TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD TEN YEARS. SO IF THE CREDIT DOES NOT EXPIRE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT DOESN'T EXPIRE, PEOPLE ARE STILL DRIVING ON IT. WE DON'T CASH IN BUT IT MEANS MORE PEOPLE GET A FREE RIDE. IF WE GET A LOAN FOR $9 MILLION AND BUILD A ROAD, WE HAVE A DEBT AND WE ARE PAYING THAT. THAT PAYMENT KEEPS GOING UNTIL WE PAY AT ALL. WILLIE GET OUR MONEY BACK WHEN THE BUILDER COMES AND SAYS 50 HOUSES, THAT'S 30,000 DOLLARS AND THEY PAY US FOR THE PROCTORS. BUT IN THE INTERIM WE ARE PAID A MONTHLY PAYMENT OUT OF OUR POCKET. WE ONLY GET PAID BACK WHEN THE HOUSE IS GONE. EVERYONE CHURNED DRY BUT HAVE NO HOUSE GETS BUILT, THE ROAD IS STILL THERE. IT IS ABOUT PROVIDING AN INFRASTRUCTURE IN ADVANCE THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT BENEFICIAL. >> THE ROAD WILL NOT DO ANYONE ANY GOOD UNTIL IT CONNECTS. IT WILL ONLY SERVE THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SELLING HOUSES TWO. >> THE GOOD THING IS, WHO PEOPLE MAKE YOU GO FULL CONNECTION. THE COUNTY HAS A POLICY THAT SAYS, OPEN DEVELOP ON A HOUSE THAT DOES HAVE A SIDEWALK YOU CAN DO THAT. AS EACH DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THAT AS TO THE NEXT 300 FEET I NEVER SIDEWALK. IF YOU DON'T DO IT IN PIECES YOU GET NOTHING. THEY ARE BOTH CONNECTION AND NO HOPE. WE WOULD OFFER THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. IT'S BETTER THAN NO STEP. IF WE DO NOT BUILD THE ROAD WE DON'T GET THE CREDIT. NO HARM NO FOUL. IF WE GIVE YOU THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IN A YEAR AND THERE'S A RECESSION, AND WE DON'T BUILD THE ROPE YOU WILL GET EFFECT FROM US. THE FEE IS FILLED THE ONE WE PULLED THE BUILDING PERMIT. TAKE THIS AS WE HAVE LOVE INTENTIONS. THEY ARE GOOD INTENTIONS BACK WE THINK IT WILL GET THERE QUICKER THAN JUST DROPPING A BUCKET ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CRACKS STANDARD THE OTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT, DIDN'T THEY BUILD A ROAD INTO THIS AREA. IT'S BEEN BUILT BY PRIVATE INDUSTRY WHICH IS LESS EXPENSIVE THAN IF THE GOVERNMENT DOES APPEAR WE GET A ROAD AND SIDEWALKS, WE GET ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT& HOPE WE HAVE A BETTER PRICE AND TERMS OF THE WAY WE HAVE TO GO ABOUT IT. THE OTHER HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE. THEY MAY NOT EVEN HAPPEN AT THE ROAD IS NOT THERE. [03:10:14] >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT $9 MILLION FOR A MILE. I HAD A HEADACHE FOR A HALF-MILE. >> THAT WAS MY QUESTION. MY HAIR STOOD UP THEN STOOD UP THEN WHEN I SAW A NINE LANED DOLLARS FOR A MILE. WHOSE CALCULATIONS WERE THOSE. >> THAT CAME FROM A STUDY DONE IN 2015. THEY DID THE PARKWAY 1 MILE. THEY USE THE CALL SPIRIT BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE POINT, IF YOU ONLY GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR LESS THAN THAT, THEY GET CREDIT FOR $9 MILLION, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR $6 MILLION, THEN WE HAVE TO REDUCE THE MOBILITY FEE WHAT DID IT COST TO BUILD TIMES. SO THIS WORK. AGREEMENT TO BUILD FOR $7 MILLION. IT DID COST THEM MORE THAN THAT TO BUILD THE ROAD. THEY ATE THE MONEY. I THINK I'VE SEEN ED WAS SAYING WAS IT WAS AN ENTERPRISE FUND. THE DEVELOPERS PAY THE MONEY THAT MONEY PAYS FOR THE ROAD. HE WAS GOING TO BE CALCULATED AS A HOUSE IN LAKE ASBURY AS THE COST FOR THE ROAD GROUP IF THIS IS NOT PROJECTED THE FEE WOULD BE LOWER. IT'S NOT YOU PAIN, IS ALL DEVELOPMENT FEES. ONLY DEVELOPERS WILL BUILD YOUR ROPE YOUR CASSATT TAX MONEY, IF I GAS MONEY. THIS IS DEVELOPERS PAYING FOR THE ROPE. THE NUMBER GOES DOWN, THE FEE GOES UP. THAT IS HOW WAS CALCULATED. YOU TAKE IT AND YOU DIVIDED. IF YOU GET THE NUMBER. THAT IS WHY THE NUMBER WAS LOWER IN KEYSTONE BECAUSE IT WAS A LOWER COST. THE DEVELOPERS ARE PAYING THAT MONEY INTO A POT ANOTHER BEFORE TAKING IT OUT. >> WHAT HAPPENS IF IT COST MORE THAN $9 MILLION. >> IT DOES NOT MATTER. WHEN YOU BUILD A ROAD, YOU HAVE A NUMBER. WHEN THE ENGINEER SAYS THIS IS UNSUITABLE OR WETLANDS, THAT NUMBER GOES UP. AS YOU GET MORE DETAILED THE NUMBER GOES UP. WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR FONT ISSUE THE MOBILITY FEE SAYS, THIS WILL BE $40 MILLION. THAT IF THE CALL SPIRIT THE BETTER NUMBER YOUR ENGINEER GOT AFTER THEY LOOK AT IT. THESE ARE MORE EXPENSIVE CHARM YOUR FOND CHEEK THAN ON THE MOBILITY PIG. AND THEY DUG AROUND AND SET VARIOUS COSTS, WE TAKE THE RISK. YOU WILL BE DELIVERED A ROAD WITH PAVEMENT. EVERYTHING THAT GETS YOU THERE IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. MANAGEMENT, YOUR SAP TIME AND EVERYTHING YOU WOULD DO. [03:15:12] HIRING CONSULTANTS SO YOU'LL HAVE TO DO THAT. IT'S A CONTRACT. CHANCE THE DOT NUMBER WAS 12. THE CONTRACTOR FELT HE COULD DO IT FOR 9 MILLION. DID HE DO IT FOR LESS THAN $9 MILLION I THINK HE DID IT FOR $7 MILLION. >> YOUR COMMITMENT WAS IT WAS MORE. >> IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE FINAL NUMBER. WE COULD TAKE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND BUILD OUR OWN ROAD. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK. A COMMENT. THE FACTS THAT I HEAR, FIVE YEARS, MAYBE, WE NEED THIS. I HEAR WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING, THE NEXT HEARING IS TO CONNECT IT. I WISH WE COULD SEE THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. THIS AREA NEEDS THIS. WE HAVE TREMENDOUS GROWTH COMING IN. THERE IS WEIGHT THAT STRUCK WAY TO TAKE TRAFFIC OFF OF THE MAIN ROAD. >> WHEN THE STUDY WAS ADOPTED THIS WAS CREATED BY THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY DECIDED PRIORITIES AND CREATED THE LIST. ALL OF THESE PROJECTS ARE ON THE LIST. >> THESE COSTS ARE PLANNING BECAUSE SPIRIT I THINK JONATHAN SAID, PLUS OR MINUS 20%. ONCE YOU GET INTO THE ENGINEERING GUN RIGHTS WHEN YOU 0 IN ON THE ACTUAL COSTS. THESE ARE ESTIMATES WE HAVE THEM VETTED. WE THINK THEY WILL BE CLOSING UP TO ESTIMATE THE COST OF THE ROPE >> MY HEADACHE IS THE CREDITS WILL EXPIRE BECAUSE THE ROAD WILL NEED MAINTENANCE AND 10-12 YEARS AND THAT WILL BE ON THE COUNTY. MY SECOND THING IS THAT, WE ARE PROBABLY HEADED TO ANOTHER PANDEMIC OR RECESSION. IF WE ISSUE THESE CREDITS, AND WE SIGNED THIS AGREEMENT, THIS ROAD, IF THEY NEVER BILLETED, WE ARE STUCK. BUT WE HAVE ISSUED CREDIT FOR THIS ROAD. >> IT HAS TO BE BUILT. >> WE DO NOT ISSUE UNTIL IT IS COMPLETE. >> BUT HE HAS AN TIME. SHE JUST SAID, IF HE DOES NOT DEVELOP THE WRONG. >> THERE'S A LOT HERE. >> IF HE DOESN'T BUILD THE ROAD HE DOESN'T GET THE CREDIT. YOU CAN JUMP IN. THERE'S A PROVISION THAT YOU COULD DECIDE YOU WANT TO BUILD IT. YOU CAN GO TO THEM AND GET THEIR PLANS. THEN YOU BUILD THE ROPE. >> I GUESS I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING, THIS WILL TAKE A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF LAKE ASBURY BUT THEN, COMMISSIONER LES SAID THIS WILL BENEFIT THE PEOPLE BUYING THE HOME SPIRIT. >> BUT THEN, UNDERSTAND, WHAT WILL COME WITH THIS IS RESIDENCE FROM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS SAYING OTHER PEOPLE ARE CUTTING THROUGH O OUR ROAD. IT IS NOT JUST A TRAFFIC ALLEVIATED. THIS WILL CAUSE OTHER HEADACHES. I THINK WE NEED TO THINK IT ALL THROUGH. I UNDERSTAND. I FEEL LIKE MY HANDS ARE TIED. WE APPROVED A CIP TO HAVE THIS. WHY ARE WE -- THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION APPROVED THE MOBILITY PLAN SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEVERAGE. >> REMEMBER, THEY DID NOT APPROVE LAKE ASBURY. THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2006. THE WHOLE IDEA OF APPROVING IT WAS TO START THIS GRID SYSTEM OF ROADS. [03:20:03] THIS IS NOT ANYTHING NEW. IT HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS. THEY THEORIZE THE BOARD WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED THIS. IF THEY DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A COMMITMENT. WE NEED TO START A SYSTEM HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE ROADS, THEY ARE NOT NEW. THEY DID NOT COME FROM THE LAST COMMISSION. THE WHOLE THING WAS CONTEMPLATED. >> WIDE BOLT ON IT IF IT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN 2006 AND NONE OF THIS MATTERS AND WE CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING WHY DO WE BUILD ON THIS. I FEEL LIKE I CANNOT LEGALLY DO MY JOB. >> YOU CAN ALWAYS VOTE NO. >> I KNOW, BUT WHAT DOES IT MATTER. NOTHING WILL BE CHANGED. >> THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2007 IF IT HADN'T HAPPENED THEY WOULD'VE BEEN BUILT. >> THE FACT THAT THE FIRST ONE WAS DELAYED THAT HAS BEEN DONE. NOW WE SEE THE EXPRESSWAY BEING BUILT. >> WON THE COUNTY MAKE DECISIONS TO MAKE THIS PART OF THE MOBILITY FEE, THEY'D LOOKED AT THE ALTERNATIVE. THE ALTERNATIVE WAS THESE ROADS WERE NOT PART OF THE MOBILITY FEE. THE THINGS THE COUNTY CONSIDERED, AND THAT WAS THESE LANES WOULD COME. BUT CARS COME IN THE ENTITLEMENTS ARE THERE PEOPLE CAN BUILD THE HOUSES. IF WE DO NOT PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE ROUTES, THE CARS ON THE ROAD IS ALL YOU HAVE. SO THIS IS SIX LANES. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ALTERNATIVES COME IT CAME DOWN TO WHAT ED SAID. THIS MEANT PEOPLE WHO WERE COMING ANYWAY HAVE ANOTHER ROAD TO DRIVE ON. THEY REALLY DO REPRESENT A LONG TERM PLANNING EFFORT. PEOPLE ARE COMING TO CLAY COUNTY, WHERE WILL THEY LIVE. THE COLORS WERE NOT ON THE MAP, THEY SAID YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER. I FEEL, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT HAS PASSED. THERE ARE MANY DECISIONS OF THE COUNTY BUILDS ON EACH YEAR. >> MY HEADACHE IS ISSUING ALL OF THESE CREDITS. DOWN THE ROAD, THERE WILL BE A PRICE TO PAY AND IT IS ON THE BACK OF THE TAXPAYERS. THEY NEVER DRIVE THE ROADS AND COULD CARE LESS. >> WHEN WE CONSIDER THE BOULEVARD. I REPRESENTED THE LANDOWNER. THE INFORMATION I BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY, WAS BRANDON FIELD. ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT HAD A TAX BASE. NOT VERY HIGH. WHEN WE LOOK AT IT TODAY, MAYBE IT WAS SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS ANALYZED THEY BROUGHT IN $7 MILLION PER YEAR AND MORE REVENUE, JUST FROM THAT AREA. THE COUNTY'S AT THE SAME THING. YOU ARE BUILDING A ROAD FOR YOURSELF. >> WE SAID NO, WE ARE BUILDING FOR THE HOUSES SOUTH OF US. WE DO NOT NEED IT, WE CAN GET ON THE BELTWAY JUST FINE. BUT THIS IS A CONNECTION FOR THOSE WHO CAN GET ON THE BELTWAY. ULTIMATELY, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADS, WHEN THE RESIDENTS COME THEY WILL PAY A TAX. THE FACT THAT THESE THOUSANDS HAVE A HIGHER VALUE, AND WE ARE PAYING MORE PROPERTY TAXES. IT IS REALLY SOMETHING, THE CAPITAL PART IS COMING OUT OF THESE MOBILITY FEES WHICH WAS ONLY PAID BY THE DEVELOPMENT. THE OPERATION AND THE PATCHING SOURCES FROM THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE 12 YEARS FROM NOW. IT WILL BE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE THAT WILL PAY THE TAXES. >> I HAVE A WHOLE DISTRICT WILL THE PEOPLE WILL PAY TAXES FOR YEARS AND THEY STILL LIVE ON ROADS WITH POTHOLES. SO, WHEN I LOOK AROUND AT PEOPLE, AND I LOOK THEM IN THE EYE AND THEY SAY $9 MILLION TO PAY 1 MILE. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY MILES WE COULD PAY. THAT IS WHERE MY THOUGHTS COME BACK TO YOU. I UNDERSTAND YOUR ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC. >> NOT ONLY TRAFFIC, WE HAVE CONSTITUENTS CALLING, THEY ARE ROUNDING SCHOOL ZONES INTO NEIGHBORHOODS. PEOPLE FLYING DOWN TO NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS WILL BE A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS SIDEWALKS FOR ALL OF THE KIDS TO WALK DOWN. I CANNOT IMAGINE THIS MANY HOUSES COMING IN AND THEY WILL STILL BE RUNNING PEOPLE TO THE [03:25:02] NEIGHBORS. SOMEONE WILL GET KILLED. BUT CREDIT IS FOR THE ROAD. THE ROAD THAT WE WILL GET NOW, AS OPPOSED TO WAITING UNTIL WHEN THE COUNTY DECIDES NOT GETTING A ROAD. WHEN WILL WE GET THAT. WHO IS GOING TO GET A? WHEN WILL WE GET IT? SO, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO HELP OUT, IN MY EYES, TO GET THE ROAD FASTER. GET IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING HERE. IT IS A WAY WE CAN GET FROM ONE AREA TO THE NEXT. THE MAIN DEAL IS, IT DOESN'T MATTER, IF THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE HERE, WILL WE CONTINUE DOING WHAT WE HAVE NOW. WILL WE HAVE A ROAD THAT THEY WILL BUILD FOR US. >> THE MOBILITY FEES, CAN ONLY BE SPENT AT A CERTAIN PLACE. THE MONEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT A CERTAIN WAY. >> THERE ARE CREDITS THAT HAVE TO BE ISSUED THAT CAN ONLY BE USED. >> A MOBILITY FEE OR IMPACT THE MNEY, EVEN IF THEY HAVE THOSE VOUCHERS THAT WON'T HAVE IMPACT ON MAINTENANCE BECAUSE THAT COMES OUT OF GAS TAX OR SALES TAX, OR PROPERTY TAX OR THE GENERAL FUND. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A CORRECTION. I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, WHEN I FIRST TOOK OFFICE FOUR YEARS AGO I HAD A MAP IN MY OFFICE THAT AT THE ST. JOHN'S COUNTY AND CLAY COUNTY. THE MAP HAD ALL KINDS OF RED ROADS, JUST LIKE WE ARE TALKING OF PUTTING IN HERE. I SAID, HOW DID THEY GET THE ROADS. AND WE SAID THE DEVELOPERS PAID FOR THEM AND THEY GOT CREDITS AND THEY ALLOWED THEM TO USE THE CREDITS AGAINST THE MONIES THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO BUILD HOMES. TAKE MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND ED ANSWERED IT, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THE $9 MILLION. SOMETIMES CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE MORE. >> YOU CAN'T COME BACK TO GET REIMBURSED. THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A DEVELOPER TO DO SOMETHING. YOU CAN ARGUE WHETHER THAT IS RIGHT OR WRONG BUT WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH WAYS, TO CONTEND WITH THE GROWTH AND MAKE SURE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE AS WE NEEDED OR RATHER THAN CHASING IT FROM BEHIND. YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH CERTAIN ASPECTS. I HAVE LIVED IT. THERE'S OVER $5 MILLION THAT WAS PUT ASIDE AND THAT LED THEM TO IMPROVE BUT IF YOU STAY HERE, HOMES THAT MAY NOT BE SOLD IN THE FUTURE. HE HAS MORE FINANCIAL RISK AND WILL YOU GET A FINANCIAL RETURN. YES, HE'S A BUSINESSMAN. HE IS NOT DOING IT OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF HIS HEART. HE IS JUST NOT DOING IT FORREASE MONEY DOWN THE ROAD. >> IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS A LAKE ASBURY MASTER PLAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MOBILITY PLAN DESIGNED BY PROFESSIONALS, YOU WILL END UP WITH WHAT YOU HAVE THERE. YOU HAVE EVERYWHERE WITH A DIRT ROAD. OUR PREDECESSORS DID GO WITH THE BEST PRACTICES WE PROFESSIONALS TO DESIGN THE FUTURE OF CLAY COUNTY. TEETH LIKE I SAID, I HAVE A REAL RESERVATION ABOUT THE COST OF THAT ROAD THE PROFESSIONALS DO THIS FOR A LIVING AND THEY CAME [03:30:07] UP WITH THIS FOR A LIVING. IF ANYTHING BAD HAPPENS. >> IF IT WAS OVER SEVEN YEARS AGO, I MEAN NOW, HOW MANY YEARS LATER, THEY SAID IT WAS OVER 7 MILLION THEN. >> THEY ARE A VERY REPUTABLE CONSULTING FIRM. WE ADJUSTED DOWNWARD. IT WAS BASED ON A TIME FRAME. PROBABLY DID AN ANALYSIS INDICATING, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES. MY HEART SAYS WE DON'T TRY TO FINISH THE REST OF THE PROJECT AND HAVE THE DISCUSSION BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS. ONCE WE APPROVE IT WE DON'T HAVE LEVERAGE. WE AT LEAST TALK ABOUT THIS ONE MORE CYCLE WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE TO REBUILD. >> >> >> I DID SOME THINKING. IF IT IS A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A FEE PER LOT, WE WILL THEN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE TALKED ABOUT THE INFLATION FACTOR. IF IT WAS SOLD WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO BEGIN DESIGN. THAT IS IN A NUTSHELL WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. DO WE DO THIS AND START BUILDING A ROAD,. >> WHAT I WANT TO SEE, IF WE CAN GIVE MORE ROADS. TANGIBLE LOOK FOR THE NUMBERS. >> IF WE APPROVE THIS FIRST ONE HE HAS A ROAD TO NOWHERE. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WILL GET ANY BENEFIT OR THE PEOPLE HE SELLS HOUSES TO IN THAT AREA. >> IT IS A ROAD WE DON'T HAVE TO FUND MONEY FOR. IF HE DOES SELL THIS. >> THAT IS INDETERMINATE AT THIS POINT. THE SECOND PHASE OF THE ROAD. >> THIS RELATES TO HAVING THE FIRST ONE. WHAT IS THE PROGNOSIS ON THE SECOND PHASE. >> SO THE PRESENTATION IS KIND OF THE SAME. BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE MAP, JUST SO WE -- THE SECOND ONE, THE AREA THEY OWN IS SHOWN ON THE MAP. BASED ON WHAT WILL BE THE OTHER HALF OF THE ROAD CONNECTION. THINK AGAIN THEY HAVE ENTITLEMENTS FOR 14 HOUSES AND A VILLAGE CENTER CIVIC USES. BAY SAID YOU CAN BUILD THIS TODAY. THE MASTER PLAN SAYS YOU CAN PAY YOUR MOBILITY FEE AS YOU GO. THEY WOULD START WITH A SUB DIVISION AND THEY WOULD BUILD 500 HOUSES. THEY WOULD GIVE YOU YOUR CHECK. THEY WOULDN'T BUILD A ROAD. THEN THEY WOULD CROSS THE ROAD. THEY CAN CONNECT THEIR SUBDIVISION WITHOUT THIS ROAD BEING CONSTRUCTED. THIS IS THE PIECE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. TAKE SO I'M GOING TO INVITE MR. SKINNER APPEAR. HE HAS A LAND UNDER. IS NOT A DEVELOPER. [03:35:09] TOM IS THE GUY WHO HIRES THE GUY WHO HAS THE APPOINTMENT. THE SCANNERS, THEY ACTUALLY SELL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HIRED. SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT TIMING. >> ALLEN SCANNER. >> I'M GIVING A LITTLE HISTORY ON MYSELF. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS SINCE DAY ONE. AND OF COURSE WE ARE ALL MANDATED BY THE MASTER PLAN IN TERMS OF THE REQUIREMENT. WE ARE DIFFERENT FROM TOM. WE ARE LANDOWNERS. WE HAVE TO HOLD ONTO THE LAND. WE WILL DEDICATE THIS AND THAT IS ONE THING WE CAN DO. THE APPROACH IS MORE. THEN THEY WILL DO EXACTLY WHAT IS REQUIRED IN TERMS OF BUILDING THE ROADWAY. WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT AMOUNT WHICH I THINK IS GOOD NEWS. THAT MEANS THE WHEELS ARE MOVING THINGS WILL GET DONE. FROM A DEVELOPERS PERSPECTIVE. FIRST OF ALL, GO FORWARD IN TIM. WHEN THE INTERCHANGE OPENS UP. THERE WILL BE IN A FEW YEARS. IF NO -- IF THAT ROAD IS NOT BUILT, YOU WILL HAVE EVERYONE GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE SCHOOL IS, SO THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS MOBILITY IS TO INCENTIVIZE A DEVELOPER SO HE WILL BUILD A ROAD, BUT IT HAS TO BE EQUITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER. IF HE IS ASKED TO BUILD MORE THAN THE NUMBERS WORK OUT, AND HE'S NOT SO MOTIVATED TO COOPERATE AND MAY NOT BUY THE PROPERTY. WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE AND NOTHING GETS BUILT. THAT IS OUR SITUATION. IT IS UNIQUE. THE WHOLE POINT IS TO INCENTIVIZE THE CONTRACTOR TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN SUCCESSFULLY. THE NORTH-SOUTH SEGMENT UP TO RUSSELL, IT IS A LATE PHASE IN THIS PROJECT. IT IS UNDEFINED AT THIS TIME. THERE IS AN OBVIOUS STRAIGHT LINE VERTICAL. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD GO BASED ON THE PLAN. WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE READY TO DEDICATE IT RIGHT AWAY. IF YOU GO NORTH FROM THE BELTWAY WE OWN A REALLY BEEN AREA THAT IS ARGUABLY WHERE IT WOULD GO. IT'S NOT EVEN ENOUGH FOR AN 80-FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY AS YOU BUILD THE ROAD. THERE IS SO MUCH ON THIS ASPECT. MY PHILOSOPHY IS, LET'S FOCUS ON GETTING THESE ROADS BUILT. GET THAT SUCCESSFULLY DONE. WE ALL KNOW ON THE MASTER PLAN, THIS IS SHOWN ON THE PLAN. THE RIGHT-OF-WAY HAS TO COME AT THE RIGHT TIME. THIS IS EAST OF THE BELTWAY. YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS A PROPERTY OWNER WHO THIRD WIDOW. THEY ARE NOT ENGAGED AT ALL WITH THE PROCESS. THERE'S NOT MUCH THAT CAN BE REAL. THAT AREA HAS BEEN PINCHED OFF. [03:40:03] SO GO BACK TO THE CREDITS. THERE IS NO INCENTIVE FOR ANY DEVELOPER. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH HOMES TO OFFSET THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION. MY PHILOSOPHY IS, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THIS APPROVED, IF WE GET THIS ROAD BUILT, WE WILL BLEED A LOT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF THE INTERSECTION WHICH IS CAUSING GRIEF. IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. THIS IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD. IT'S NOT A CUT THROUGH ROAD. THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS WHERE YOU HAVE RESIDENCES THAT EMPTY ONTO IT WHERE PEOPLE WILL CUT THROUGH THAT IS AWFUL. THIS IS A LIMITED, THERE WAS ONLY THREE OR FOUR DRIVEWAYS. THIS IS MORE ABOUT HITTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE AREA. IT IS LIKE SAND. I HOPE I HAVE EXPLAINED IT WELL. IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> JUST A FEW DETAILS. EARLIER HE NOTED WHILE THIS DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSING TO BUILD THIS ROAD ON THE MASTER PLAN, THERE IS THIS ROAD HERE. IT GOES FROM THE CORNER ALL THE WAY UP TO TOOL NINE. THERE'S A ROAD THAT GOES WEST OF 209. WHY CAN'T THEY WILL THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY BEYOND THE TWO DOTS RIGHT THERE. THIS IS ALL SOMEONE ELSE. THERE IS NOWHERE TO CONNECT TO. THIS IS ON THE LIST. WHEN WE DID THE MODELING. THAT ROAD WAS FOUND TO BE AN IMPORTANT CONNECTION UNDER THE BELTWAY. THIS WAS YEAR 2035. NOT TODAY. THIS IS A FIVE LANE ROAD. YOU WILL GET ON THE BELTWAY AND GO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. THE TRAFFIC WILL CHANGE OVER TIME. THEY SAID, THE MODEL SAID WHEN YOU GET TO THE END OF THE PLANNING PERIOD, 15 YEARS FROM NOW THERE WILL BE CONGESTION. THIS WILL BE AN IMPORTANT ROAD TO BUILD. WHEN WE GET TO PRIORITIES, IF THEY WERE TO BUILD THIS, THEY WOULD GET MORE CREDITS. IT IS A GOOD SECTION OF ROAD. THOSE CREDITS WOULD BE IN THEIR POCKETS AND THE MONEY WOULD STAY IN THEIR POCKETS. NOW YOUR CHANCE OF GETTING A CHECK FROM SOMEONE, JUST WENT DOWN. WE HAVE BUILT MORE ROADS. WE BUILD MORE ROADS INSTEAD OF YOU GETTING THE VOUCHER. IF YOU GET A CASH CHECK AND YOU DECIDE THAT IS THE RIGHT ROAD TO BUILD YOU CAN DO IT ON ANY GIVEN TUESDAY. LIKE MINISTER -- LIKE THE PLAN SAYS, THAT IS A ROAD, YOU CANNOT PUT A HOUSE THERE. WHEN WE KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR YOU HAVE TO GIVE US THE RIGHT-OF-WAY. IT COULD BE THE ROAD YOU WANT TO BUILD NEXT. WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU, YOU MAY AS WELL LEAVE IT. WHEN YOU FIGURE OUT IF YOU ARE READY FOR IT, BUT WE NOTE YOU MAY WANT TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE NEXT. YOU HAVE A LOT OF ROOMS YOU ARE BUILDING. THEY DON'T ALL NEED TO BE ON THESE PROPERTIES. WE REALLY DO BELIEVE THIS CONNECTION IS IMPORTANT NOW. FOR IT TO BE BUILT IN THE NEXT 5-6 YEARS, YOU WILL NEED -- YOU WILL NOT SEE THE TRAFFIC. IF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY IS SOMETHING, WE ARE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU ARE NOT LOSING THING IF YOU LOSE IT. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE ROAD PUT IN. >> IF YOU WILL GO A FEW SLIDES FORWARD. IN THE LAST AGREEMENT, I SAID THERE ARE MOBILITY FEES TRANSFERS. HE WILL SPEND MORE MONEY THAN HIS DEVELOPMENT GOALS. IN THIS CASE, THERE IS NO ACCESS. [03:45:01] THE COST, THE CREDIT YOU WILL GIVE FOR BUILDING THIS ROAD, IS ALMOST TO THE DOLLAR TO THE CREDIT THEY WILL NEED. S, IF YOU ASK THEM TO BUILD ANOTHER ROAD AND THEY SAY YES, THEY NOW HAVE TRANSFERABLE CREDITS. IT JUST WORKED OUT, WITH THEY ARE BUILDING IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT THEY ARE MAKING. WHEN THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO BUILD, YOU WILL COLLECT MONEY AND MAKE THAT DECISION. WHERE DO YOU SPEND IT NEXT. YOU WILL MAKE THE DECISION. THIS IS WAITING FOR YOU WHEN YOU WANT IT. WHEN WE SPOKE TO STAFF THERE WAS A PIECE OF THIS IN THE AGREEMENT. HE SAID IF I CAN'T BUILD THE WHOLE THING WHY DO OR WANT THIS. I WOULD SAY, WHAT YOU ARE SEEING TODAY SHOWS WHAT YOUR PRIORITIES ARE. IF YOU COLLECTED THE MONEY WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT. TO GET IT IN FIVE YEARS INSTEAD OF 12 YEARS. >> SOLD THE ROAD, YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS A PIECE OF THE LAND THAT IS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER RIGHT BELOW THE BELTWAY. THAT'S PROBABLY THE LAST PHASE THAT MAKE IT DEVELOP. WE SAY THEY HAVE TO BUILD 400 FEET, IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS. THEY WILL NOT LET THEM BUILD 40. THEY WILL SAY IT IS TIME TO DO THE WHOLE THING. IT WILL GET DONE. THE POINT IS, THAT WAS AN AREA THAT WAS A LOW PRIORITY AND UNDER DEFINED AT THIS POINT. IT IS THERE. MY ONLY POSITION IS, IT SHOULD COME AT THE RIGHT TIME. >> I HAVE A COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, ALL I EVER HEAR FROM PEOPLE IS WHY DIDN'T CLAY COUNTY THINK TO BUILD AN INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST. THAT IS A NORMAL QUESTION. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. MR. YOUNG HAS SAID, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS DOING IS SOMETHING THAT WILL LOOK NICE. HE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT -- >> SOMETHING IN THAT DIRECTION. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THIS, HE HAS EXPRESSED INTEREST IN HELPING HER LOW INCOME HOUSING. HE SAYS IT WILL BE WELL MAINTAINED. IF YOU COULD THINK ABOUT THAT, WE CAN KEEP ON BEING A NOW WE ARE. WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT COMING. WHY NOT MAKE IT LOOK NICE. LET IT BE THERE FOR OUR CITIZENS TO USE AND MAKE IT SAFE FOR OUR KIDS. YES, THERE IS A RISK. , THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED AND WE HAVE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR IT TO HAPPEN FOR THE COUNTY AND DEFINITELY FOR THE DISTRICT. >> DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? >> MY ISSUE IS THAT CREDITS DON'T EXPIRE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE NEXT BRADLEY CREEK ONE. >> IF WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, HE WILL NOT BUILD A WORLD. >> I THINK THE VULTURES WILL BE [03:50:32] SPENT THERE. >> I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. IT IS PART OF THE PLAN THAT WE PUT INTO PLACE OVER THE LAST 4-5 YEARS. >> AT THIS POINT IF THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT. IF NOT, WE SHOULD HEAR A MOTION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO FROM THERE. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THE MOBILITY FEE CREDIT TO PLAQUE SOUND DEVELOPMENT. >> THE STEW ONE AT A TIME. THAT IS THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF I SET IT RIGHT. >> HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND? >> OUR SECOND PERIOD. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? IF NOT WE WILL CALL THE PHONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES 4-1. [10.  Consideration of Mobility Fee Credit Agreement for Bradley Creek Holdings (E. Lehman)] >> WE WILL MOVE TO NUMBER TEN WHICH IS A CONSIDERATION OF MOBILITY FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT FOR BRADLEY CREEK HOLDINGS. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THE AGREEMENT TO BRADLEY CREEK HOLDINGS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> LEVER SECOND PERIOD. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE A DISCUSSION ON HOW TO HAVE THE ROADS BUILT. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE PROPERTY. >> MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE WOULD NEED BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE JUST DID, IN TERMS OF -- >> THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER DID NOT HAVE THESE ROADS ON HIS PROPERTY. THIS OWNER HAS ALL OF THE ROADS IN QUESTION ON HIS PROPERTY. >> WHEN MR. YOUNG GOT PROPERTIES , -- >> THE NORTH SOUTH THREE MACHEN EAST WEST 1, NORTH-SOUTH 3 IS ONE 100% THE SECOND PARCEL. IS THAT CORRECT? >> BRADLEY CREEK HOLDINGS HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BETWEEN NORTH-SOUTH 3 BETWEEN THE ROAD BEING BUILT AND 209. IT OWNS 80 FEET OF RIGHT-OF-WAY WHICH IS THE MINIMUM STANDARD UP TO THE BELTWAY. IT OWNS 60 FEET BEYOND THE BELTWAY. SO IF THE COMMISSIONER IS INTERESTED IN SEEING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATED, MEANING WE WILL GIVE YOU THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND WE GET CREDIT FOR THOSE, THE WAY WE ARE DOING TODAY, I THINK THEY WILL BE WILLING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD. LIKE WE DISCUSSED, WE HAVE PLENTY OF LAND. WE DON'T NEED LAND, WE NEED ROADS. IF YOU COULD DISCUSSED IT FOR A CYCLE AND SEE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY. IF THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT -- >> THAT IS MY POINT. >> THAT LAST PHASE OF THE PROJECT, WHICH IS IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, THEY HAVE TO CONSTRUCT A PORTION. I ASSURE YOU, THE COUNTY WILL [03:55:09] NOT LET THEM BUILD A LITTLE BIT OF THAT ROAD. THE REASON BEING, YOU SEE THE WETLANDS THAT GO THROUGH THEIR QUICKSAND YOU ARE NOT THE DEVELOPER. BUT THERE IS NO WAY, THERE'S NOT A ROAD SYSTEM THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO TIE OFF THE ROAD. YOU HAVE TO BUILD, AND THE POINT BEING, THAT IS YOUR LEVERAGE, ONCE THEY WANT TO BUILD THE PHASE, THEN YOU SAY OKAY NOW IT IS TIME TO BUILD THE WHOLE THING, YOU HAVE THE LEVERAGE. >> MY PREDECESSOR WILL PROBABLY HAVE IT. IT'S HERE IN VENICE HERE BUT THIS IS EAST-WEST ONE, I THINK I AM COMFORTABLE AS LONG AS WE KEEP A COMPLETE ROAD HERE THAT BYPASSES, THAT IS MY COMFORT LEVEL. I THINK THE OTHERS WILL COME IN TIME. I DON'T THINK WE SEE THE NEED FOR THIS UNTIL QUITE A WAYS AWAY. I THINK THE OTHER ROAD, I GUESS EAST-WEST ONE, WILL BE BILLED BY OTHER DEVELOPERS. I THINK WE NEED TO STRIVE TO GO FOR THAT. I THINK THIS IS MUCH CLOSER. >> THE STUDIES ARE ALREADY SHOWING THAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER 11. [11.  Modification #2 to Subgrant Agreement with State of Florida, Division of Emergency Management, regarding HazMat Sustainment and Maintenance for Fire Rescue and Budget Resolution (J. Boree)] MODIFICATION NUMBER TWO TO SUBGRANT AGREEMENT WITH STATE OF FLORIDA, DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. JASON WILL YOU TAKE THIS ONE? >> YES. THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY. HOPEFULLY I HAVE AN EASY ONE FOR YOU. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TODAY IS APPROVAL TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO EXTEND AND EXPIRATION DATE UNDER AN AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. AM, I'M LOSING MY VOICE. THIS WILL TAKE US THROUGH THE END OF APRIL. TECHNICALLY THE AGREEMENT EXPIRED AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER DUE TO ISSUES WITH THE STATE AND COVID, WE COULD GET IT DONE. THIS WILL GIVE US UNTIL APRIL 30. THIS WILL BE THE MONEY ALREADY GIVEN TO US. >> ANY QUESTIONS? >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 11. INCLUDING THE BUDGET RESOLUTION. >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES 50. -- 5-0. >> SO, THIS IS THE FY 2020 [12.  Fiscal Year 2020 Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) Program Application Submittal Authorization (D. Motes)] ASSISTANCE TO FIREFIGHTERS GRANTED. WE ARE REQUESTING UP TO $200,000 WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A MATCH. OUR TARGET IS $200,000. WE WILL ATTEMPT TO GET THE VEHICLE SYSTEMS IN CONVERSATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE THAT. >> WE ARE ASKING FOR IT TO BE SUBMITTED AND TO RECEIVE THE GRANT AND IT IS SUCCESSFUL. >> YOU HAD THIS IN FINANCE? >> WHAT DID YOU GUYS DO WITH THAT? DID YOU PASS IT ON? >> I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS. THEY WANTED TO COME TO YOU TO SEE HOW YOUR GRANT DOLLARS WERE BEING UTILIZED. THAT IS WHY THEY WANTED IT. >> THERE'S A LOT TO REMEMBER. [04:00:06] >> I UNDERSTAND. THAT WAS A WEEK AGO. >> SHOULD WE FIND OUT WHAT THAT WAS. ARE YOU CONCERNED? >> WE WANTED TAXPAYERS TO SEE THEIR TAX DOLLARS. >> VERY GOOD. THAT IS A GOOD ONE. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS QUICK STANCH THE GRANT WILL COVER MODIFICATION OF HOW MANY STATIONS? >> A WILL BE 11. >> A LOT OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING AT ONCE. WE JUST HAD A GRANT FOR PPE, THAT WILL GIVE US A LOT OF NARRATIVES. WE CAN CUT AND PASTE THEM OVER. WHEN IT COMES TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, THAT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. NEXT WEEK WILL BE THE DEADLINE FOR THE GRANT. THE VEHICLE RESULT -- EXHAUST SYSTEM. THE FIRETRUCK WILL START. THEY PULLED IT OUT AS IT ROLLS OUT AND THEN IT COMES OUT AUTOMATICALLY. IT WILL ELIMINATE CERTAIN THINGS. CANCER-CAUSING AGENTS. >> VERY GOOD. THAT IS SO YOU CAN'T IT OUT OF THE FIRE STATION. >> THEY HOOK IT UP SO IT DOES NOT BUILD UP ON THE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >> ANYTHING ELSE? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND PERIOD ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NINE WE WILL CALL THE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES. WE NEED TO GO TO NUMBER TWO. THE GRANT PROGRAM AWARD. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT WHEN? >> THAT IS ONE WE JUST DID. WE SHOULD BE ON -- WE HAVE ONE AND 200 NUMBER 12. >> THAT WAS BOTH TO SUBMIT AN EXCEPT IF AWARDED. >> OKAY. MOVED TO APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. [13.  Emergency Medical Services (EMS) Billing Agreement with Change Healthcare Technology Enabled Services, LLC f/k/a PST Services, LLC (D. Motes)] THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. NOW ITEM NUMBER 13. >> ITEM 13 IS THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES BILLING AGREEMENT WITH CHANGE HEALTHCARE TECHNOLOGY. WE DID GO TO AN RFP. THERE WAS THE PREVIOUS AGENT WE HAD. WE HAD SOME RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGES TO THE CONTRACT AND YOU ACCEPTED IT AND THIS IS THE CONTRACT. >> ANY QUESTIONS. >> MOVED TO APPROVAL. >> SECOND. >> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? IT CARRIES. >> NUMBER 14. [14.  Budget Resolutions (R. Kantor)] MR. R. KANTOR WITH THE BUDGET RESOLUTIONS. IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CARE ZACH RENTAL ASSISTACE. >> I THINK TWO OF THESE HAVE BEEN PULLED. >> NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE. THEY DEAL WITH THE 911 TRANSFER TO THE GENERAL FUND. >> LETS EXPLAIN THAT, THE CLERK'S OFFICE ASKED THAT WE PUT IT BACK TO THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. >> THERE IS NO REASON TO MESS WITH THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. >> SO, WE WILL START WITH NUMBER ONE. >> SO THEY RECOGNIZE THE AWARD. IT HAS BEEN PUT INTO A FUND TO EASE TRACKING. SO, IT IS A GRANT THROUGH THE FRED'S. >> SO, IT HAS ITS OWN LINE ITEM. >> IT HAS ITS OWN FUND. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRIDGE? CAN WE GET A MOTION. >> I MOVE WE APPROVED BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ANY OPPOSED IT [04:05:01] CARRIES 5-0. WE WILL MOVE ON TO NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS THE RENTAL REVENUE. >> THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT RECOGNIZES RENT TO BE RECEIVED FROM TENANTS. PROCEEDS WILL BE USED PRIMARILY FOR UTILITY EXPENSES. >> SO I TAKE IT WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL IN NEGOTIATING THEM TO GET OUT. >> WILL THE RENT THAT THEY PAY. >> I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION. I THINK SHE'S ASKING, WE HAD A DISCUSSION PRIOR TO CLOSING. >> SOME OF THEM WILL STAY -- THAT WAS PART OF THE DEAL. SOME WILL STAY UNTIL JUNE OR JULY. SOME FOR SEPTEMBER. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, THIS NUMBER , WAS JUST A FIGURE AND WE WERE ASSUMING. >> SO THIS IS RECOGNIZING WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW. >> WE HOPE THAT THE NUMBERS >> UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT GET TO KEEP THE MONEY. SOME OF THAT MONEY WILL GO BACK OUT TO PAY THE UTILITIES, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE HEARD THE RENT WE ARE COLLECTING WILL JUST GO TO PAY UTILITIES. >> NOT ALL OF IT, JUST A PORTION. >> HE SAID MOST OF IT. >> A LOT OF THE IT IS UTILITIES, WHATEVER DID NOT GET APPROVED, -- >> YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL NUMBER ON THEIR RIGHT? >> DO YOU HAVE IT WORKS. >> I DON'T HAVE THE TRUE RICK DOWN OF HOW MUCH'S UTILITY, I'M NOT SURE IF HE IS SAYING THE ENTIRE BUILDING WILL BE USED. FOR INSTANCE WE COLLECT FROM THIS $951 PER MONTH. A VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT IS UTILITIES. IT'S NOT $9,000. I MEAN, IF THEY ARE NOT IN THERE, WE CANNOT DO OUR BUILDOUT >> WHAT WE HAVE DONE, MOST OF THEM ARE OUT BY THE END OF JUNE AND JULY. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ARCHITECT COME IN AND WE NEED THEM OUT TO DO THE CONSTRUCTION. THIS WILL MESS IT UP. >> ALL OF THEM LEAVE AT DIFFERENT TIMES. >> THEY HAVE A TIMETABLE IN THE BUILDING PROCESS. I THINK THEY HAVE THAT FACTORED IN. >> SECURITY DEPOSIT. EVERYTHING IS A WORSE CASE FACTOR. WE ARE NOT GOING TO COLLECT ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE BUDGET. >> IT BOUNCES EVERYTHING THROUGH. I DID NOT WANT TO PUT IT INTO RESERVES. ANYTHING THAT IS LEFT OVER GOES BACK INTO RESERVES. >> WE DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE HIGHER. THE INCOME WAS AS LOW AS YOU THOUGHT, THE INCOME WAS FIVE. >> OKAY, HAVE YOU. THAT WAS THE HIGHEST AND YOU PUT THE EXPENSES AT THE HIGHEST TOO. >> FOR WHATEVER REASON. >> NO WONDER. NO ONE IS MAKING ANY MONEY ON [04:10:08] THIS. >> I FELT LIKE WE DID NOT KNOW THIS AND THIS WILL COST MONEY NOT REIMBURSED. I FEEL LIKE THIS WAS A SURPRISE. YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN, THAT IS NOT THE TRUE UTILITY COSTS. HE IS JUST BUDGETING THAT WAY SO WE CAN SPEND IT. IT IS NOT THE TRUE UTILITY. I FEEL LIKE YOU GUYS ARE ALL MAKING FUN OF ME AND I AM THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. I FEEL LIKE I'M TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND YOU ARE LAUGHING AT ME AND MAKING FUN OF ME BECAUSE I ASKED A QUESTION BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO RECOGNIZE A BUDGET RESOLUTION OF WHICH YOU ARE TELLING US ON A PIECE OF PAPER, THAT IS A BUDGET RESOLUTION THAT THE COMMISSIONABLE SIDE THAT SAYS WE HAVE UTILITY SERVICES OR $298,000. YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY BUT I AM THE ONE WHO HAS TO SWEAR TO THAT. >> UNTO WE GET INTO IT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UTILITIES WILL BE. WITH THE MAINTENANCE WILL BE, THEY HAVE TO GO INTO AN ACCOUNT. ONCE IT ISN'T AN ACCOUNT ACCOUNT, INSIDE OF THAT BUDGET LINE ITEM. HOWARD CAN MOVE THAT MONEY AROUND WITHOUT COMING BACK EACH TIME TO SAY WE NEED THIS OR THAT. IT HAS TO GO INTO AN ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED. I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BUILD UP YOUR NOW WE WILL BE PAINT UTILITIES ON THAT. >> YOU CANNOT USE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR UTILITIES. >> THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I AM FINDING OUT WE ARE PAYING FOR UTILITIES. >> THAT IS PART OF THE LEASE AND THE RENT THEY ARE PAYING. SO WE ARE PAYING THOSE EXPENSES OUT OF THE REVENUES. UNTIL WE GET THE TENANTS OUT OF THERE IT IS NO DIFFERNT FROM ANY OTHER BUILDING. YOU WILL STILL PAY THE UTILITIES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND MONEY. >> I RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT IS NOT THE FIRST TIME IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT. >> WE ARE NOT JUST PAINT UTILITIES WE HAVE REVENUES COMING IN. REMEMBER YOU ARE A LANDLORD, SO YOU WILL PAY FOR ANY MAINTENANCE , THOSE KIND OF THINGS. THAT IS WHAT THE RENTAL WILL HOPEFULLY COVER. >> I APOLOGIZE. I THREW YOU OFF OF THE TRACK EARLIER. I KNEW THE REVENUES WOULD COVER WHAT THE EXPENSES WOULD BE. THIS LETS HOWARD MAKE THE DETERMINATION AND WHAT HE HAS TO DO, EITHER PAY UTILITIES -- >> LET ME ASK A DUMB QUESTION. DID ANYONE LOOK AT THE UTILITIES? >> HE MAY HAVE MADE AN ASSESSMENT, I KNOW FROM THE JANUARY RENT, THAT IS NOT THE CASE BUT I DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA, ONCE THEY SWITCH THE POWER OVER, WHAT THE MONTHLY BILLS WILL BE. I DO NOT KNOW THAT. I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR JOHN AND JEAN. >> I WAS JUST TRYING TO BALANCE THE TWO OF THEM. >> YOU ARE AN ACCOUNTANT, I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE DOING. THIS IS SOMETHING TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU BUY A BUILDING. >> SO, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE MONEY TO COVER THAT. WE PROBABLY HAVE ACCESS. >> I THINK WE WILL. >> WHEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT MOVES IN, THEY COVERED THEIR OWN EXPENSES. SO FOR THE BUILDINGS THEY TAKE OVER THE LEASE WILL PROVIDE IT. >> MAYBE WE CAN GET THESE PEOPLE OUT OF LAURA LEE. >> NO RENT COMING IN. [04:15:01] >> THE BUILDING IS PAID FOR. >> OKAY. SO, FOR YOUR PURPOSES, FOR YOUR ACCOUNTING YOU NEED AN APPROVAL HERE. >> YES, IN ORDER TO RECOGNIZE THE REVENUE. WE HAVE TO COVER THE EXPENSES. >> OKAY. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? OF I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR THE EXPENSES OF THE THREE BUILDINGS. 400, 500, 600. >> SECOND. >> OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED, IT CARRIES 5-0. >> NUMBER 15, CONSIDERATION OF [15.  Consideration of business expansion incentives for Mobro Marine, Inc. (J.J. Harris)] BUSINESS EXPANSION INCENTIVES BY MARLBORO VEREEN INC. TO HELP US WITH THAT IS JJ HARRIS. HE HAS MEANT HANGING IN THERE. >> THANK YOU EVERYONE. SO GOOD NEWS. ECONOMIC INVESTMENT. PART OF OUR BUSINESS RETENTION AND EXPANSION PROGRAM DID A SITE VISIT WHERE I MET STEVE. PART OF THAT PROCESS IS TO ASK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ISSUES OR THINGS THAT INJURED THEM FROM MAKING INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. WE TALKED AT LENGTH AND DISCOVERED WATER AND SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IMPORTANT. HE IS LOOKING AT A HEADQUARTERS EXPANSION. THEY OWN ABOUT 30 ACRES, THIS IS IN SOUTH OF GREEN HILLS SPRINGS. IN RESEARCHING THE EXPANSION AND WORKING WITH THE CITY, THEY DEVELOP AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND THEY EXTENDED THE LINE AND NOW, OVER THE PAST YEAR THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SITE PLANS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND WITH ME TODAY, WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT. IT WILL BE A $12 MILLION INVESTMENT. 12,000 A SHOP REPLACING OLDER BUILDINGS THAT WERE BUILT IN THE 1960S. FOR NEW JOBS. THEY MADE APPLICATIONS UNDER THE POLICY THAT YOU HAVE. IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED YOU HAVE SOME NOTES THERE THAT THEY QUALIFY FOR THE ED G. FOR THE REIMBURSEMENT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY 114 EMPLOYEES THEY EXPECT MORE, YOU CAN SEE AN AVERAGE CALCULATION THERE. BASED ON WAGES THEY RECEIVE TEN POINTS. CAPITAL INVESTMENT RECEIVED TEN POINTS. LOCATION OF THE PROJECT TEN POINTS FOR A TOTAL MAKING THEM QUALIFIED FOR THE MAXIMUM GRANT. THEY PAY THEIR TAXES AND WE VERIFIED JOBS AND INVESTMENT TO SEE BY THE BUILDING AND IMPROVEMENTS MADE. THEN THEY WOULD GET 75% OF THE REIMBURSEMENT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING. HE IS THE CFO. MAYBE, BEFORE YOU START, GIVE US A THUMBNAIL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DO. >> SURE. IT IS A COMPANY IN CLAY COUNTY THAT EVERYONE DRIVES BY AND WONDERS WHEN THEY SEE THE CRANE STICKING IN THE AIR, WHAT IS THAT PLACE. OUR COMPANY, WE STARTED ACQUIRING THOSE PARCELS IN THE LATE 60S AN EARLY 70S. ORIGINALLY, OUR COMPANY USED TO BE KNOWN AS MOODY BROTHERS. WE ARE IN ESSENCE A RENTAL EQUIPMENT COMPANY. WE ARE A TOWING COMPANY OUR CUSTOMERS ARE THE MILITARY, AND MILITARY CONTRACTORS. [04:20:03] PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING PORT INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE DOING CRUISE TERMINALS. MOST OF THE CREWS SHIP YOU HAVE BEEN ON. THOSE WERE BUILT BY AMERICAN COMPANIES FOR ROYAL AND CARNIVAL AND THOSE COMPANIES. THE PORT, A LOT OF THE WORK THAT IS DONE THERE IS DONE USING OUR RENTAL EQUIPMENT BY DIFFERENT VEREEN CONTRACTORS. WE DO ALL KINDS OF SPECIAL LIVES FOR THE MILITARY. SO, WE ARE THIS LITTLE COMPANY THAT NO ONE KNOWS IS THERE. OUR YARD WAS ORIGINALLY THE BASE FOR KEEPING EVERYTHING AND REPAIRING THEM. WE BUILT BARGES THERE. WE BUILT TUGBOATS SPIRIT WE REBUILD CRANES. WE MAINTAIN OUR OWN FLEET. WE HAVE 100 BARGES. WE HAVE 35 TUGBOATS SPIRIT 75 CRANES. WE HAVE A BIG CAPITAL INVESTMENT ALREADY THAT IS HEADQUARTERED HERE IN THE AREA. BACK IN 2004, THE FAMILY DECIDED TO MOVE PART OF THE MARINE OPERATIONS THAT WERE INTO LAW COUNTY TO CLAY COUNTY WITH NO INCENTIVES, WE JUST DECIDED IT MADE BUSINESS SENSE TO DO THAT. WE ALSO MOVE THE HEADQUARTERS FROM A PROPERTY WE OWN THE JACKSONVILLE. >> WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED SEVERAL YEARS AGO WAS, ALL OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY WHEN WE PURCHASED IT, SOME OF THEM WERE BUILT AS FAR BACK AS IN THE 40S. IT WAS TIME TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. WE TURN THE HOUSING INTO OFFICES. I HAVE BEEN WITH THE COMPANY SINCE 97. THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO BE HEADQUARTERS. NOW IT IS TIME TO REWARD THE WORKERS. THEY HAD SIGNIFICANT SHOP BUILDING THAT WILL INCREASE EFFICIENCY AND ALLOW US TO BRING ON MORE PEOPLE. WE HAD TO DO THIS. THE SECOND PHASE AFTER THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS WILL BE TWO MORE BUILDINGS, THEN A COUPLE OF OLDER BUILDINGS WILL BE TAKEN DOWN. SO, IN ALL WE WILL HAVE FOUR BUILDINGS, EVERYTHING WILL BE CORRECTED. OBVIOUSLY, A MAJOR DEAL FOR US, FOR THE FAMILY I WORKED FOR. BACK IN 2004, WHEN I MOVED HERE, WE HAD ABOUT 80 EMPLOYEES. AS JJ WAS SAYING, RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE 114. EVEN BEFORE THIS EXPANSION IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING WE HAVE BEEN INVESTING AND BRINGING IN MORE EMPLOYEES, AND IT IS GOOD FOR US. THERE ARE WORKERS AROUND HERE, I THINK IT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT IS HAVING GOOD HIGH-PAYING JOBS. I THINK, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR APPLICATION, YOU CAN SEE WE CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT. WE PROVIDE JOBS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT COLLEGE-EDUCATED BUT MAKE SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE ANY AVERAGE YOU CAN COME UP WITH WHETHER CLAY COUNTY OR NATIONWIDE. I THINK WE PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY FOR CLAY COUNTY RESIDENTS, BUT THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES. PEOPLE COME HERE TO WORK AS OPPOSED TO, OUTBOUND. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT AS WELL. >> EXCUSE ME. YOUR APPLICATION INDICATES 12 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EMPLOYEES. WHAT KIND OF JOBS WILL THOSE BE? >> THEY WILL BE WELDER SPIRIT THEY WILL BE CRANE MECHANICS. OFFICE PEOPLE. ONE OF THE, LIMITATIONS TO EXPANDING IS HAVING SOMEWHERE FOR THEM TO PHYSICALLY SICK. WE DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE PEOPLE SHARING OFFICES. THEY ARE BARELY MEANT FOR ONE PERSON, CERTAINLY NOT TO PEOPLE. IT ALLOWS US TO DO THAT SORT OF [04:25:03] THING. WE DO HAVE A FEW MORE THAT WE CAN ADD MECHANICS. >> YOUR APPLICATION INDICATES ANNUAL WAGES OVER 80,000 PER YEAR. THAT IS ABOVE THE MINIMUM. >> CLAY COUNTY HAS BEEN VERY GOOD TO US. WE FEEL LIKE OVER THE YEARS WE HAVE DONE A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS PART OF US GIVING BACK. WE WILL IMPROVE THE PROPERTY AESTHETICALLY. IT WILL BE MORE PLEASING WHEN PEOPLE DRIVE BY. WHEN SOME OF THE OLDER BUILDINGS COME DOWN, IT WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT. HOPEFULLY, WE CAN DO MORE THAN 12 PEOPLE. IT IS CERTAINLY A RISK TO THE FAMILY. THEY ARE PUTTING A LOT ON THE LINE WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME. THEY BELIEVE IN THE BUSINESS, THEY BELIEVE WORKING -- AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF. >> MAYBE JJ HAS THE ANSWER TO THIS ONE. SO, WE PASS THE GRANT, WE MOVE TWO BUILDINGS, THEN YOUR SECOND TOO, WOULD THEY BE ELIGIBLE, HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AS LONG AS THEY KEEP INVESTING AND SUPPORTING THE GROWTH. >> THAT IS A GOOD POLITICAL ANSWER. >> WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT IS AN EXCITING TIME FOR US. WE HOPE IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER. >> I DELIVERED A SOLILOQUY, A MEETING TO GO ON A COMPANY THAT CAME IN HERE. THEY DID GENERATORS. I DID BUSINESS WITH MO BRO I THINK IN 2004. I HAD UNASSAILABLE REPAIRED OVER THERE. THEY DID A GREAT JOB AT A GREAT PRICE. I GIVE THEM ONE 100% RECOMMENDATION. JOHN HALL, HELP ME OUT WITH THAT ONE. >> THANK YOU. >> ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION, IF YOU THINK OF THE VEREEN AND YOU CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THEY HAVE DONE. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN THE 737 LANDED IN THE RIVER THAT WAS US. WE BROUGHT IT DOWN. >> YOU CAME IN ABOUT $20,000 CHEAPER THAN THE NEXT BID. >> THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. THANK YOU TO THE FAMILY FOR INVESTING IN CLAY COUNTY. WE APPRECIATE IT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION. >> I MOVED FOR APPROVAL. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE MOTION PASSES 5-6. >> NUMBER 16, ACCEPTANCE OF THE EAGLE ROCK AT EAGLE LANDING [16.  Acceptance of the Eagle Rock at Eagle Landing Subdivision by the County for maintenance with the creation of a MSBU. (R. Smith)] SUBDIVISION BY THE COUNTY FOR MAINTENANCE WITH THE CREATION OF A MSB YOU. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE NEW MSBU. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE NEW ONES THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU. IT WILL INCLUDE THREE DIFFERENT ROADS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION. IT WILL HAVE TWO LITTLE CUL-DE-SACS. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSE, THE MOTION CARRIES 5-0. WE WILL MOVE OUT TO COUNTY [COUNTY MANAGER] MANAGER. >> THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR WAS HERE TODAY. SHE WAS A HOUSE HOLDING THAT TRACK HOUSEHUNTING WITH HER HUSBAND. SHE ACCEPTED OUR OFFER FOR EMPLOYMENT. SHE IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR. SHE GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE WITH A CIVIL ENGINEERING DEGREE. SHE HAS A LICENSE FROM MARYLAND AND VIRGINIA. SHE HAS OVER 32 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. SHE SHOULD START EMPLOYMENT IN MID-FEBRUARY. VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HER ON BOARD. SHE TOOK HER TIME ON THURSDAY [04:30:05] SHE DID A DRIVE AROUND TO GET A FEELING SO SOME REALLY GOOD STUFF THE OTHER THING, THE OTHER THING TO MENTION, I -- TO GO BACK TO THE FREE BUILDINGS I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT THE COST OF UTILITIES AND REPORT BACK FOR EACH OF THE BUILDINGS. I CAN ASSURE YOU I WILL SHUT THE ELECTRICITY OFF IN THE AREAS NOT NEEDED. JUST TO MENTION THAT. PENDING ANY QUESTIONS THAT IS ALL I HAVE I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR ANY [COUNTY ATTORNEY] MISUNDERSTANDING. THERE WAS NO INTENT TO BE DISRESPECTFUL AND I'M SORRY IF YOU THOUGHT I WAS LAUGHING AT YOU, I WILL CERTAINLY GET WITH HOWARD AND JOHN AND TROY AND THE REST OF THE TEAM AND WE WILL FIGURE OUT THE UTILITY COSTS FOR YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE ATTORNEY? >> SO, WE HAVE WORKED ON THESE DRAFTS. WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE BALANCING THE TIME. WE DO HAVE BONDING PROJECTS. I MEAN,, I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO ED ABOUT THEM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH AQUARIUS BUT WE HAD AN ISSUE AND WE CAN'T MAKE IT WORK FOR HER QUERIES TO GET THAT DONE. I WILL TAKE THE BLAME. THEY ARE ON MY DESK. THEY AREN'T TOO DIFFICULT AGREEMENTS AND TRYING TO WORK IT ALL TOGETHER. WE ARE WORKING ON IT. >> IN MY SUBDIVISION THEY STARTED BUILDING DOWN THERE. WE RAN INTO THEIR PIPES. WE SHOW THIS AND THEY WERE DOING CONSTRUCTION. I HAVE THEM AT MY HOA MEETINGS. GET OVER THERE AND MEET WITH THOSE GUYS. FIND OUT WHERE THEY ARE DIGGING. THAT WAY WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE DIGGING. THEY HAVE A GOOD BUDGET FOR DOING CONSTRUCTION WORK. SO, I WAS TALKING TO JEREMY AND HE SAID WE HAD TO TEAR OUT A LINE WHERE THEY DID NOT COORDINATE. THEY DID HAVE SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT SET UP SO WE COULD IF THEY KNEW ABOUT IT THEY COULD GET IN THERE AND WE COULD DO THE SAME THING. WE DID HAVE SOME FORM OF COMMUNICATION CENTER. >> >> WE DO HAVE TO CONTINUING CONTRACTS THAT HAVE GOOD RATES. WHEN WE BID THAT OUT. WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP OUR RATES. UNFORTUNATELY. WE MADE THE DECISION, WE COULDN'T DO THAT. ASKING THEM IF THERE IS ANY WAY THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR GROUP IS STILL TALKING. [04:35:01] >> WE DUG OLD TO REPAIR A LINE OF THE PIPE GETS REMOVED. WE CAN PAY FOR WHAT THE CONTRACTOR DOES FOR US. COURTNEY IS KEEPING ME ABREAST OF IT. WE WANT TO KNOW AND SO WE CAN BE RESPONSIBLE. >> WE DO HAVE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHERE WE WANT TO BE STRANDED. >> WE ARE WORKING ON THIS IN GOOD FAITH. IT MAY TAKE A WHILE LONGER BUT LET'S WORK ON IT. >> I PROMISE. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> YOU ASKED ME TOO BRIEF THE [COMMISSION AUDITOR] BOARD ON THE ITEMS THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON. SO, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS FOR GIVING THAT BACKGROUND TO EVERYONE. THE FIRST ITEM WE TALKED ABOUT, THE ITEM FOR THE CASH DRAWERS. I'M WORKING WITH HOWARD TO CREATE THE POLICY FOR THEIR CASH HANDLING. ALSO WORKING WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GET THERE PROCEDURES WRITTEN OUT. >> THIS WILL PROBABLY COME UP AGAIN. THIS IS WHAT THE BOARD APPROVED LAST YEAR. THEN WE ARE ALSO WORKING THROUGH A COST ANALYSIS SO HE CAN UNDERSTAND THE ADDITIONAL COST ON HIS TEAM. WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN SIMILARLY ON THE OOLITIC ASSOCIATIONS, WORKING THROUGH CHANGES AND ALSO, THE NEW FEES ASSOCIATED. THEY'RE ALSO WORKING ON A POLICY DOCUMENT FOR MYSELF AND MY ROLE. SO THE POLICY DOCUMENT WILL PLAY OUT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND ITEMS I WILL BE WORKING ON THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AND HOW I GET THE REVIEWS I WILL BE LOOKING AT COMING FROM YOU GUYS, THE COUNTY MANAGER AND COUNTY ATTORNEY AND THE STAFF. SO I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HOWARD AND COURTNEY ON THAT, TO GET THEIR VIEWS AND OPINIONS ON HOW TO MAKE THAT. THROUGH THOSE DISCUSSIONS, A COUPLE OF ITEMS HE WANTED ME TOO LOOK AT. THESE ARE ITEMS I HAVE NOT STARTED TO LOOK AT BUT I PLAN ON DOING SOME REVIEWS AND THAT IS FOR THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE TALKED TODAY, A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT HAVE, THAT I HAVE WRITTEN DOWN NOTES, JUST FOR THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY CHANGES. HOWARD JUST WANTED ME TOO TAKE A LOOK AT THE POLICIES OR PROCEDURES. >> THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT HOME [04:40:10] FOR CEMENT. SO, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT CODE ENFORCEMENT. ANOTHER REQUEST FROM DETROIT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CARE ZACH. THE MONIES COMING IN IT'S GOING OUT. WE HAVE ALL HEARD WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY ARE DOING. THIS SHOWS HOW MUCH HE REALLY CARES AND HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BUTTONED UP. >> ANY QUESTIONS QUICKSAND YOU SOUND LIKE A VERY BUSY LADY. >> THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE THE [LETTERS FOR ACTION] UPDATE. >> NOTHING THERE. WE WILL MOVE TO LETTERS FOR ACTION. HE SUBMITTED HIS APPLICATION FOR REAPPOINTMENT. SO DID JACOB. WE NEED TO APPROVE FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. >> I DO NOT HAVE THE BACKGROUND. ONE OF THE APPLICANTS FILLED OUT NOTHING. UNDERSTAND THIS PERSON HAS SERVED FOR A GREAT MANY YEARS. BUT IT WOULD BE GRATEFUL TO HAVE THAT BACKGROUND. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. >> I AGREE MAKING IT COMPLETE. IN MOST CASES PEOPLE DO THIS AND WE MAKE SURE THEY DO IT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND. ANY OTHERS? [PUBLIC COMMENTS] ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. IT CARRIES 5-0. >> RECONSTITUTE THE FINAL COMMENT OF THE EVENING BEFORE COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS. MR. OTTO. >> JAMES OTTO. YOU HAVE MY ADDRESS ON RECORD. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, KUDOS TO YOU FOR STANDING UP AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. THE OTHER MEMBERS HAVE NOT DONE THINGS RIGHT. JUST REMEMBER THAT 20,000 WOMEN STOOD UP AND THEY CHANGED LAWS. I LOOK FORWARD TO WOMEN WORKING ON THIS BOARD. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, IN REFERENCE TO THE DOCTOR'S QUESTION, IT IS BAD PLANNING WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE YOUR AREA OVER THERE THAT IS A MESS RIGHT NOW. 5 FEET IS NOT A BIKE LANE. THAT IS A CLOWN SHOW, THAT IS NOT A BIKE LANE. IN RESPONSE TO THE ATTACK BY THE CHAIR, THE HOSPITAL BEDS, DO NOTHING IF THERE IS NO STAFF TO DEAL WITH THE PATIENT'S. THE SHERIFF SAYS GET A ROOM, THAT IS ALL THAT WOULD BE, A ROOM WITHOUT THE STAFF. NEW GROWTH NEEDS TO PAY FOR NEW SCHOOL SPIRIT I DRIVE TO TO ANY IT NOT BAD, IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER I HAVE TALKED TO ANOTHER COUNTY WHERE THEY SAID THE MOBILITY FEE IS A SIGN OF A WEAK COUNTY. YOU DON'T WANT TO MOVE TO THAT UNLESS YOUR FINANCES ARE WEAK. MR. BOLA SPEAKS ON BANKRUPTCY HERE. THE REAL VILLAGES OF FLORIDA HAVE GOOD PLANNING, NOT HERE IT HAS BEEN OVERBUILT. I APPRECIATE THE NEW BOARD COMING ON AND LOOKING AT WHAT IS GOING ON. IF THEY DO NOT PAY THE RENT, YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY THE ELECTRIC, THAT IS THE LAW. JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY THE RENT DOES NOT MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE ELECTRIC. I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL AREAS. [04:45:03] I WANT TO TAKE TIME TO TALK ABOUT SOMEONE WHO DIED IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY. ( INDISCERNIBLE ). >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU MR. OTTO, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. WE GAVE YOU EXTRA TIME AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME. YOU WON'T GET IT NEXT TIME. ANYONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? [COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS] SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, I ADD -- AS FOR THE LIST TO BE UPDATED. IT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE NOVEMBER 2018. IF THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED. ALSO, ON THE NEW WEBSITE, WHEN YOU GO THERE, THERE ARE BUTTONS AT THE TOP AND MAYBE THEY ARE NOT INTENDED TO BE CLICKED ON. I DON'T HAVE THE HOMEPAGE. THESE, ARE THESE CLICK ON? IF YOU CLICK ON THIS IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THE LINK IS BROKEN. I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TOO, IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ONE OF THE WALKING STORYBOOKS, THEY ARE ENJOYABLE. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, THEY HAVE TAKEN STORYBOOKS AND PUT THEM ON POSTERS AND IS NOT A FAR WALK BUT IT IS SOMETHING TO GET OUT AND ENJOY THE SYSTEM. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THEM, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE THE PLANS THEY HAVE. YOU CAN SEE THICK CARE ZACH MONEY AT WORK. >> I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE LIST. IT PROBABLY GOES BACK TO YEARS. WE ARE ENTERING FEBRUARY THE YEAR STARTED IN OCTOBER AND WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESURFACING LIST WILL LOOK LIKE. >> IT IS FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT IS A ROAD ON MY DISTRICT. SUNRISE FARMS IS ON THE LIST. WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION. WE COULD HAVE FORCED THE ISSUE TO PAVE THE ROAD BUT WE DIDN'T. THIS IS EXCHANGE FOR THE WORK HE WANTED TO DO. AT ANY RATE, IF WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE LIST, IF SOMEONE WAS THINKING WE SHOULD HAVE PUSHED THE ISSUE AND IT COULD HAVE TAKEN SOMETHING OFF OF THE LIST. >> I WANT THE COUNTY MANAGER TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING ON THAT. >> I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY, I WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF THE TV WHEN THE GOVERNOR CAME ON. THEY MADE A PRETTY INTERESTING POINT. HE MADE THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO GET EVERYONE VACCINATED. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING [04:50:04] WE HAVE TO DO. WE CAN GIVE MONEY AWAY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT WORKING, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET SICK AND WE CAN PAY PEOPLE'S RENT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET OUT TO WORK. BUT, THE BEST THINK WE CAN DO IS TO VACCINATE EVERYONE SO THEY DON'T GET SICK. >> IT HAS TO BE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT THIS POINT. >> THE THIRD DISTRICT WILL BE ONE OF OF THE SITES ON FRIDAY. THERE YOU GO. >> THE SCHOOL BOARD DISTRICTS AND THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICTS ARE NUMBERED DIFFERENTLY AND OUT OF COOL. WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN I WAS IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ABOUT TRYING TO GET THE DISTRICTS TO DRIVE UP. I KNOW THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND A CONVERSATION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN BUT I WANT THAT ON EVERYONE'S RADAR SO WE CAN GET THAT TO HAPPEN. >> I THINK YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH ME. I TALKED TO A FEW SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND I KNOW YOU HAVE. THEY HAVE INDICATED, THERE IS INDICATION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT OPTION. >> I THINK WE DECIDED TO DO IT A WHILE AGO. >> I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS TO GIVE UP THEIR NUMBER. I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION. >> MY WIFE HAS A DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN I DO. I COULD NEVER REMEMBER MINE. IT IS A MAJOR SOURCE OF CONFUSION FOR MOST VOTERS IN ONE DISTRICT FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD COMMISSION. I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMUNITY BOUNDARIES ARE THE SAME. I THINK THEY ARE DIFFERENT. DEPENDING ON THE DISTRICT. THEY PULLED COUNTYWIDE. THEY ARE ELECTED COUNTYWIDE WHERE WE ARE A SINGLE DISTRICT. THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES. BUT I THINK IT IS WORTHWHILE. >> THERE WILL BE REDISTRICTING COMING UP. THAT IS THE IDEAL OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS SQUARED AWAY. THE LAST THING ON MY LIST, WE USED TO DO PERSONNEL EVALUATIONS. THE COUNTY MANAGER. I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE OF THOSE IN OVER A YEAR. I ASKED OUR PERSONNEL PERSON TO SEE IF SHE COULD GET ONE. SHE SAID NO PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW IF WE SERVE THE SYSTEM GOING. I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW COMMISSIONERS. CERTAINLY THEY CAP HAD TIME TO FORM AN OPINION. THAT IS NOT A PUNITIVE THING. >> TALKING ABOUT THE ROADS. WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR GETTING THAT'S GUARDED. I KNOW IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET. >> I WILL GET WITH RICHARD AND WE WILL UPDATE THE LIST. THERE'S ONE ON THE PAGE AND THE SPREADSHEET. I WILL GET WITH RICHARD TO UPDATE THOSE. THEN THE NEXT BOARD WE WILL HAVE A PLAN. >> WE SHOULD ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW ENGINEERING IS GRADING THE ROAD SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS HOW IT WORKS OR HOW IT USED TO BECAUSE WE ARE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS. THE SCENARIO IS USUALLY THEY GOT ONE AND SO I GOT ONE. WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET TO, A GRADING SYSTEM WHERE THE DEPARTMENT AGREED TO THE CRITERIA, THE LOOK OF EVERYTHING. BUT MAYBE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW THAT IS DONE, WE EVEN CARRIED IT AS FAR AS HAVING A BUS TRIP WHERE WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE CRITERIA. IT GIVES AN INDEPENDENT [04:55:04] CAULIFLOWER BETHEL ROAD IS, THEN WE CAN PULL IT AWAY FROM THERE. >> WE HAVE HAD SOME MAJOR TRASH ISSUES. IT SEEMS LIKE THE GARBAGE TRUCKS ARE STACKING UP AS HIGH AS THEY CAN GO NOT WANTING TO GO BACK TO THE DELVE ANY FASTER. HOW CAN WE TALK TO THEM. I TALKED TO THEM TO ENSURE THEY KEEP THE GARBAGE FROM FLYING OUT. WE HAD SOMEONE TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE ROAD. >> REALLY QUICKLY. WE ARE FORMULATING A DEDICATION OF MOODY ROAD. THE DESIGNER OF THE FLAG THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED. HER HUSBAND WAS KILLED I THINK IN VIETNAM. AS A RESULT OF THAT SHE RESIDE THAT STRIKE DESIGNED A POW FLAG, IT HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY ALL OF THE MILITARIES HERE IN THE U.S. IT IS FLOWN, ON THE AMERICAN FLAGSTAFF BELOW. IT IS BEING FLOWN IN THE CAPITAL. SO ANYWAY, SHE LIVED ON A ROAD JUST OFF OF MOODY ROAD. THERE IS AN EFFORT BY HER NEIGHBORS WHO KNEW HER TO DEDICATE A ROAD TO HER. SHE PASSED AWAY IN 2017 OR 2015. SHE IS NO LONGER WITH THE SPIRIT OUR FAMILY IS STILL WITH US SO, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE VETERANS ORGANIZATIONS TRYING TO FORMULATE A CEREMONY THAT WILL PROBABLY TAKE PLACE. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PARK BEHIND WALMART SOMETIME IN THE FALL. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING THAT. >> THAT IS AN OPTION FOR THE COMMISSION. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL THAT IS THERE. >> I HAVE ONE REAL QUICK ITEM. I WAS CONTACTED BY COMMISSIONER HARVEY, HE REACHED OUT, HE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MYSELF, AND THE COUNTY MANAGERS TOGETHER TO DISCUSS ANY ISSUES THAT MAY BE OF NO TO BOTH COUNTIES. WHETHER IT IS DONE NEAR THE BORDER OR WHATEVER. WE CAN TEAM UP AND GET TOGETHER. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COME BACK AND LET YOU KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING WORTHWHILE WORTH PURSUING. THAT WAS IT. >> ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T HEAR * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.