[Pledge of Allegiance]
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>>> I ASK EVERYBODY TO PLEASE STAND.
COMMISSIONER DAVIS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> COMMISSIONER DAVIS: PLEASE REMOVE YOUR HATS.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>>> THANK YOU. I'M MICHAEL BOURRÉ, THE CHAIRMAN. WE'VE KIND OF MOVED SEATS AROUND SO I'LL POP AROUND HERE FOR A SECOND.
I'M GOING TO START WITH THE CLAY COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE JAMES FOSSA. START TO MY LEFT HERE.
COMMISSIONER PETER DAVIS. TO MY RIGHT, VICE CHAIRMAN RALPH PUCKHABER. TO THE FAR LEFT, COMMISSIONER MARY BRIDGMAN. TO MY FAR RIGHT, COMMISSIONER BO NORTON. WE ALSO HAVE THE CLAY COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTOR HERE, ED LEHMAN.
WE HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, COURTNEY GRIM.
AND THE NEW COUNTY ATTORNEY CASEY SMITH.
WHO ELSE? I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE JUSTIN HORAN HERE. HE WAS HERE A MOMENT AGO.
AND CHRISTINE BLANCHETT IS HERE. OFFICERRIANSY IS HERE IN THE BACK PROTECTING US. KEEP THE COUNTY SAFE -- OFFICEER YANCY IS HERE IN THE BACK PROTECTING US.
THE DECISIONS MADE BY THIS BOARD ARE ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE BCC. WHO WILL HAVE THEIR FINAL SAY AT THE MEETING ON DECEMBER 8. IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON, FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD THAT IS LOCATED IN THE BACK VESTIBULE. PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AT THE BEGINNING AND THE END OF THE MEETING FOR ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT. OTHER THAN THE ITEMS ON THE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA FOR THE MEETING.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE RED LIGHT GOES ON, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
I WANT TO NOTE THE NEXT MEETING A JANUARY 5.
AT THIS TIME WE WILL DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I'M GOING TO ASK IN THIS TIME OF WHERE WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COUNTY AND MEMBERS OF OUR COUNTRY WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM VARIOUS, FROM COVID TO OTHER AFFLICTIONS, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOMENT OF SILENT PRAYER TO REFLECT ON THOSE.
AND OFFER PRAYERS FOR THE WELL-BEING.
OKAY. WE WILL MOVE IN THE AGENDA NOW.
[1. Approval of Minutes]
LOOKING FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.>> COMMISSIONER: SO MOVED. >> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: WE HAVE A FIRST. AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
THAT WAS COMMISSIONER DAVIS AND COMMISSIONER NORTON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
MOTION CARRIES. [SNEEZING] GOD BLESS YOU. WE WILL OPEN UP NOW OUR FIRST
[Public Comment]
PUBLIC HEARING. AGAIN THIS IS TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO OTHER THAN THE AGENDA ITEMS.>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: JAMES ADO. 2904 2310 BLAINE BOULEVARD, MIDDLEBURY, FLORIDA. I'M HOPING WITH THE NEW BOARD THAT WE GOT THREE NEW MEMBERS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE BETTER PLANNING. I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE LAST TWO BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FULL BOARDS.
AND IT'S BEEN A REAL, REAL ISSUE.
SO, ONE THING IS WE SHOULDN'T BE SUPPORTING FOOTBALL K-22.
HERE IS THE NEWS ARTICLE HERE WE ARE TRYING TO GET OUR WOMEN IN TO RUNNING IN TO EACH OTHER. TRYING TO FILL UP OUR JAILS.
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I GUESS. THE PRAYER WAS GOOD.BUT THE C.A.R.E.S. ACT MONEY WE SHOULD GET A SECOND ROUND TO THE INDIVIDUALS. I HEAR YOU UP HERE TALKING ABOUT HELPING THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED IT.
THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ONLY DID THE ONE ROUND.
NOW THEY ARE DOING THE SECOND ROUND OF PAYOUTS AND THIS AND OUT AND TRYING TO BUY THE BUILDINGS.
IF THEY DON'T SPEND IT RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH THEY GET PAID THEY WILL HAVE TO REIMBURSE THE MONEY BACK THROUGH THE C.A.R.E.S. ACT IF IT IS NOT SPENT RIGHT. IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE CITIZENS OUT THERE, YOU WILL DO A SECOND ROUND OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
THE FIRST WAS $1,000. THE FIRST BUSINESS ROUND WAS THE $2,000 PER SMALL BUSINESS. EVEN AFTER GIVING UP PROOF THAT I HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS, THEY ARE STILL REFUSING AFTER ALL THIS TIME. I APPLIED THE FIRST DAY.
WAS ONE IN THE MORNING AND ONE WAS IN THE AFTERNOON.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THE CITIZENS HERE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TRY TO SWALLOW THIS MONEY AND SPEND IT THE WAY YOU GUYS WANT TO DO ON THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
WE HAVE THREE NEW COMMISSIONERS, THANK GOD.
THE OTHER THREE OF THEM ARE GONE.
SELLA SHOULD BE REMOVED ALSO FOR HIS ACTIONS AT THE MEETINGS.
WE WILL WORK ON THAT WITH THE GOVERNOR.
I'M GOING TO MAKE A TRIP TO TALLAHASSEE TO TRY TOO MEET WITH HIM TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL THINGS LIKE STEPPING ON OUR RIGHTS TO PROVIDE PICTURES TO THE CITIZENS ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE COUNTY.
LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKING THE PITBULLS HOME TO NOT EVEN WRITING A REPORT ABOUT IT. THERE IS JUST A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ATTENDED TO.
WE DON'T NEED TO BUY $6 MILLION, $3 MILLION, HALF AND HALF.
ON A BALLPARK. WE DON'T NEED TO BE DOING THAT.
WE ARE SHORT $1.5 MILLION TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY ARE GETTING PAID A THIRD LESS THAN OTHER AREAS AROUND
HERE. >> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THANK YOU,
MR. D. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: STOP FUNDING THE ABUSE OF OUR KIDS K-12.
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THANK YOU. >> PUBLIC SPEAKER: THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'LL MOVE IN TO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
[1. Public Hearing to Consider Application Z-2020-010 to Rezone 21.3 Acres from AR to AG]
THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING TO CONCONSIDER APPLICATION Z-2020-0 TO REZONE 21.3 ACRES FROM A.R. TO A.G.>> THANK YOU. THIS IS A CHANGE OF ZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL/RESIDENTIAL TO AGRICULTURAL.
THE PARCEL IS APPROXIMATELY 21.3 ACRES LOCATELE IN THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE. PROPOSED CHANGE IS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE GRAZING LAND FOR MINI-HIGHLAND CATTLE.
YOU CAN SEE THE EXTENSION OF THE AG FROM THE SOUTH PROPOSED.
IT DOES BORDER AG TO THE SOUTH. GOVERNORS CREEK TO THE EAST AS WELL AS AG LAND. AND A.R. SURROUNDS IT TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST. HERE IS AN AERIAL.
IT'S MOSTLY UNDEVELOPED. THERE IS ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS ON THE PROPERTY AND THIS IS AN AREA UNDEVELOPED.
THERE ARE LARGE LOT RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.
STAFF REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND DERLED THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE TONIGHT. >> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THANK YOU.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> JUST ONE QUICK COMMENT. ED, THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE.
NOT PARTICULARLY ON THIS ONE. BUT WHEN WE GET THE PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY, LIKE THIS. THAT IS IN THE PACKAGE, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS GIVE YOU -- CAN WE GET SOMETHING WITH A WIDER VIEW LIKE THIS THAT SHOWS THE PROPERTY?
>> ED: WE'LL HAVE TO TELL OUR G.I.S. PEOPLE BUT YES.
WE GET IT STRAIGHT FROM G.I.S. SO WE CAN CERTAIN LEARN EXPAND
IT OUT. >> COMMISSIONER: THIS THIS GIVES YOU A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT IS AROUND THAT.
>> ED: WIDER, NOT NORTH SOUTH? >> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS FINE THE ONE YOU PUT IN THERE BUT MAYBE AN EXTRA PAGE.
>> ED: IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THE PICTURE WE CAN PUT IT
IN A WHOLE PAGE. >> COMMISSIONER: YEAH.
WANT TO LOOK AT THAT? >> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THAT IS A
GOOD RECOMMENDATION. >> ED: IN THIS CASE, IT'S THIS PARTIAL HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THANK YOU. ED, IF YOU COULD ADD THAT.
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ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? FROM THE COMMISSION? HEARING NONE, DOES THE APPLICATION HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE PRESENTATION? PLEASE.IF YOU WILL GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. GEORGE PETTY, 2201 MANGROVE LANE. THAT IS WHERE I RESIDE BUT WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT 1888 SERENITY.
I THINK HE PRETTY WELL CALLED IT WHEN HE SAID WHAT WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING, RISING OUR MANY MINI-HIGHLANDS AND THE COWS, THE CATTLE THERE. WE DID EXTENSIVE AS FAR AS GETTING THE BARNS AND THE FENCES UP.
IT WAS A.G. THEN IT WAS MOVED TO A.R.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT MOVED BACK TO A.G.
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: OKAY. >> GUEST SPEAKER: PRETTY WELL WHERE WE ARE AT. WE BUTT UP LIKE YOU SAID TO THE GOVERNORS CREEK. WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEIGHBORS THAT HAS, I TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE.
LIKE HE SAID, THERE IS LARGE PARCELS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS.
THEY'D BE HERE. >> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: ARE THERE
ANY QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? >> COMMISSIONER: I HAVE A COUPLE. MR. PETTY?
>> GUEST SPEAKER: YES. >> COMMISSIONER: THIS IS A COMMERCIAL CONCERN. DO YOU BREED THEM AND RAISE THEM
AND SELL THEM? >> GUEST SPEAKER: YES.
THEY ARE A LITTLE SMALLER FOOTPRINT FOR CATTLE BECAUSE THEY'RE MINI-HIGHLAND. THEY ARE REGISTERED.
EVERYTHING WE HAVE, HAS PAPERS. >> COMMISSIONER: OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY LIMITATIONS AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS ON 21 ACRES? I KNOW THERE IS ON AN ACRE OR
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THEY PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT TWO-THIRD OR A HALF OF A FOOTPRINT OF A REGULAR COW BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY
ARE AND WHAT WE FEED THEM. >> COMMISSIONER: WHAT ARE YOUR
PLANS AS FAR AS YOUR HERD SIZE? >> GUEST SPEAKER: WELL, I JUST GOT HEIFERS IN FROM MISSOURI. I PLAN ON, I'D LIKE TO KEEP MAYBE 18. THEN LET THE HEIFERS DROP AND THEN I WANT TO SELL THOSE. NOT A LARGE HERD.
ENOUGH TO MANAGE. >> COMMISSIONER: THANK YOU.
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THANK YOU, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AGENDA ITEM SPECIFICALLY.
SEEING NOBODY APPROACHING THE PODIUM, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION.
>> COMMISSIONER: IF YOU ARE READY, I WILL MOVE THE STAFF
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: FIRST AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION? ALTHOUGH IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: ALL THOSE OPPOSED, SAME SIGN.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.
>> GUEST SPEAKER: THANK YOU MUCH.
>> COMMISSIONER: GOOD LUCK WITH IT.
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS?
[Old Business/New Business]
>> JUST REMINDER TO REUP. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED GET YOUR APPLICATIONS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION IN BY END OF
DECEMBER. >> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THIS
MONTH. >> YOU THREE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
WE HAVE RECEIVED TWO. >> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: VERY GOOD.
ANY OTHER OLD IT BE? EVERYBODY GOOD? WE ARE GOING TO OPEN UP THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
[Public Comment]
>> PUBLIC SPEAKER: JAMES ADO, BLANEY BOULEVARD.
MILLBURY, FLORIDA. I ASK THAT YOU START BACK UP WITH THE CALL-INS. I WAS AT MARIAN COUNTY MEETINGS TODAY. THEY ARE STILL DOING THE CALL-INS. I KNOW THE GOVERNOR REQUEST THEY STARTED BACK UP THE LAST TIME YOU SHUT THEM DOWN.
THAT IS A WAY THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE BOARD. EVERYONE WITHOUT THE COVID OR ANYTHING, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE CALLING IN, ANYWAY, TO COMPLAIN ABOUT NOT HEARING FROM THE CITIZENS.
YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWING THE CITIZENS TO CALL IN, WHETHER THEY ARE HANDICAPPED, THEY ARE WORKING.
WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. THEY MAY HAVE TO STAY AT HOME IN THE EVENING. SO I ASK YOU TO RELOOK AT THAT.
AGAIN, SELLA WAS SELLING SOMETHING ABOUT THE HOSPITALS WERE OKAY AFTER MAKING A SNIDE REMARK THE MEETING BEFORE LAST ON THE B.C.C. BUT YOU KNOW, THE STAFF IS REALLY OVERWORKED REGARDLESS. WE PUSHED A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOLS HERE. SO, I SEEN THE BEDS ARE KIND OF OPEN. YOU GOT TO LOOK AT THE STAFFING AND THE OVERALL. I DON'T APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT HE WAS MAKING. CITIZENS CAN GO BACK AND RELOOK AT IT. AGAIN, FOOTBALL IS MORE OF PRIORITY THAN THE TRANSIT THAT HURT THE COMMUNITY.
THAT WAS MORE OF THEIR JOB THAN TO TRY TO GET MONEY TO POP-WARNER AND THE OTHER FOOTBALL.
WE SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING ANY MONEY ON THE FOOTBALL THROUGH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE K-12
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FOOTBALL AND WE'RE TRYING TO TEACH KIDS TO WEAR MASKS.IT'S LITERALLY ABSURD WE HAVE THE KIDS RUNNING IN TO EACH OTHER WITH NO MASKS ON WHILE YOU ARE TRYING TO GET KIDS TO WEAR MASKS. IT'S INSANE.
ABSOLUTELY INSANE. WE HAVE PART OF THE SCHOOL BOARD HERE. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT -- I WAS WATCHING BROSKEY UP THERE. HE IS DROSSING HIS FINGERS THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THAT IS NOT THE KIND OF THE SUPERINTENDENT WE NEED.
WE NEED ONE THAT WE HAD LIKE, YOU KNOW, MR. DAVIS.
ADDISON DAVIS. I DON'T THINK HE WOULD GO UP THERE AND DO THAT. I DON'T THINK HE WOULD SAY I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS.
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING WHEN YOU SHUT DOWN THE CALL-IN COMMENTS. WHEN THERE IS NO, ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BE TAKING THESE RIGHT NOW.
NOW THERE IS A SECOND SURGE, THIRD SURGE.
OR SURGE ON A SURGE OR WHATEVER IS GOING ON.
IF THERE WAS NO VIRUS, THIS BOARD, EVERY BOARD, PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD HAVE THE CITIZEN COMMENTS ON THE MEETING.
>> CHAIRMAN BOURRÉ: THERE, MR. ADO.
I WANT TO THA
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